1 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spafford, joined as always 3 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: by my partner in crime, Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: you here from our studios at lambeau Field to review 5 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: wes a twenty four to nineteen victory over the Los 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams at Sofi Stadium on Sunday. It was not 7 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: pretty by any means, but there are no style points 8 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Nope, you get the victory, you move on, 9 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: and the Packers are three and two, bottom line plenty 10 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: to work on. Lots of good things to take out 11 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: of this game, certainly when you post a victory on 12 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: the road. I think this one starts quite frankly though, 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: with the defense coming up up with the stop against 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: a future Hall of Fame quarterback yep, the game on 15 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: the line. The Packers defense got the stop it needed 16 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: in the final two minutes to win this. 17 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: Way in the players with which they got the stop with, right, 18 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: That was the other part of this that stood out 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: to me, and it was on my last tweets the game. 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: As we were getting ready to head down the locker room, 21 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: a lot of things went into that final drive, a 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: lot of players stepped up, but the fact that it 23 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 2: was Eddrin Cooper applying the quarterback hit in the fact 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: that it was Evan Williams in coverage against Colby Parkinson. 25 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: Now keep in mind he didn't get the PBu or 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: whatever you call it statistically, but his coverage on him 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: made that a very difficult catch and he's going up 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: against a tight end and a slant put route there. 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: But as Evan talked about afterwards, that was probably a 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: case of the Rams going one too many times to 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: the water well there and being able to sort of 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: telegraph it a little bit. 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say, because for those 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: who like my what you might have missed piece with 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: the film clips that I post on Tuesday, I went 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: through the entire film looking at Evan Williams, the rookie 37 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: safety's game. He had only played maybe three dozen snaps 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: on defense through the first month of the regular season. 39 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: He played every snap on defense all seventy eight in 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: this game. And in reviewing his game, when you get 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: down to the end, it's fascinating West and you said it, 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: the Rams kind of went to the well one too 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: many times because the water. Well, they but they actually 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: they actually did it in the beginning of the game 45 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: and in the end of the game at the end 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: of the game because when the defense got the goal 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: line stop on the fourth and goal early in the game, 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: the third and fourth down plays were not exactly the same, 49 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: but pretty darn close. They were almost identical, and there 50 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: was a lot of communication going on between McKinney and 51 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: Williams to get the coverage straightened out, and the Packers 52 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: end up getting the stop. Well then at the end 53 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: of the game on the final drive, and I break 54 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: this down in the video clips, and it's really fascinating 55 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: to stop the video and look at how things are 56 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: played on the previous series of downs before the last 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: one where the Packers get the fourth down stop, same drive, 58 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: but previous series of downs, it's third and ten and 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: the Rams run that bunch concept, the route concept with 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: the bunch to the left and Parkinson the tight end, 61 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: basically just runs a quick little curl and he makes 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: the catch and Williams tackles him for a nine yard game. 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: It sets up fourth and one. They convert the fourth 64 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: and one and get the next set of down, and 65 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: then on the fourth and five. On that next set 66 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: of downs, they ran the exact same thing. And when 67 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: you look at how Williams plays those two plays, the 68 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: first one, at the snap of the ball, he's about 69 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: eleven yards off of Parkinson and at the time that 70 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: Parkinson sticks his foot in the ground to make the curl, 71 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: Williams is about five yards off, and he's he kind 72 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: of right before that kind of gets rubbed off a 73 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: little bit by one of the other routes. When it 74 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: comes at him again on fourth and five, he makes 75 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: the adjustments. He sees what's coming. He knows what's coming. 76 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: At the snap of the ball, his gap is closed 77 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: to about eight yards instead of eleven. At the time 78 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: of the curl. He's avoided the other rub route much 79 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: better and he's only three yards off of Parkinson at 80 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: the time of the curl, so he's right on him. 81 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: It makes it a much tougher throw for Stafford. And 82 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned you mentioned Cooper with the pressure up the middle, 83 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: and yeah, the first time the Rams ran it, they 84 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: got nine yards. If they get nine yards on the 85 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: fourth and five, of course that drive continues and who 86 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: knows what happens. Williams made the adjustments incredible work for 87 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: a rookie, you know, really playing his first full game 88 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. To make those adjustments and 89 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: make the play in that coverage to get the stop 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: and seal the game is tremendous work. 91 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: It is incredible to watch and Matt Lafleur discuss it 92 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: again on Monday, I mean, just how deep Green Bay 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: is at the safety position. It allowed them to almost 94 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: dial up a new nickel package, which which consisted of 95 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: Evan Williams playing on the back end, Javon Bullard still 96 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: playing in the slot of the nickel in, Keyshawn Nixon 97 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: for the first time in a full game Basis playing 98 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: outside on perimeter he'd been in their time to hear 99 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: and there Packers used them outside in the base this 100 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: season a couple injury things the past few years, but no, 101 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: this time. He's out on an island and they rotated 102 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: Eric Stokes and Carrington Valentine at the other post. A 103 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: very innovative type scheme that Green Bay had, and they 104 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 2: had to work through some things. There were two big, 105 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: long touchdown drives that the Rams put together that sort 106 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: of got them started and also had them kind of 107 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: in control of the game at one point but Green 108 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: Bay every time they needed a response offensively, defensively, even 109 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: special teams, they rose to that occasion. So to get 110 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: back to the initial thing that you came in with 111 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: about how there's still mistakes, there's things they got to 112 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: clean up. The encouraging thing to me about this year 113 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: is they're winning these games. Last year they had to 114 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: go through these early crucibles. They had to go and 115 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: take their lumps early, and they had losses like they 116 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: had in Pittsburgh, they had losses like they had in Atlanta, 117 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: in Vegas and Vega, in Denver and Denver where it's 118 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: like exactly, they had stretches and they showed some flashes, 119 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: but then they something would happen, adversity would hit, and 120 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: they would they'd fall on the other side of it. 121 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: They're three and two. There's still a lot of work 122 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: to be done. 123 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: But I felt like this game, in particular, especially having 124 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: to go cross country to la and then really having 125 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: a gut check like they did at the end of 126 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: the first half, it shows this maturity of this team 127 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: and also the value of having a guy like Jordan 128 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: Love back out on the field. 129 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and staying on the defensive side of things. 130 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, what more can you say about Xavier and 131 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: Kidnahing's point. You know, he he has a hand in 132 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: both of the turnovers in the third quarter, recovers the 133 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: fumble that's forced by kings Leannigbari on a great tackle 134 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: punch out move by by Anigbari. By the way, McKinney 135 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: gets that fumble recovery. Then he gets his fifth interception 136 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: in five games as a member of the Packers on 137 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: an overthrow, and as he's done on multiple multiple interceptions 138 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: that he's had this season, he just read, he reads 139 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: the play, reads the quarterback, you know, gets over there 140 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: and puts himself in position to make the play. Almost 141 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: got another interception later in the game, almost got number six. 142 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: And that was and that's what he wanted to talk 143 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: about after the game. Oh yeah, not the five in 144 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: a row, right, it's the fact that I should have 145 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: six or should have six exactly. 146 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: It's just remarkable. 147 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: But the but the other key of course to that 148 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: third quarter is the Packers offense, which had struggled throughout 149 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: a good chunk of the first half, I mean, quite 150 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: frankly until the final drive of the first half, which 151 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: wasn't important drive to get a field goal right before intermission. 152 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: The offense had hit the big fifty three yard pass 153 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: to Jayden Reid to set up an early touchdown, but 154 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: other than that had not really done anything. There were 155 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: three three and ounce in there in the first half. 156 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: There was the pick six by Love when he's falling 157 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: down in the back of the end zone and mistakenly 158 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: tries to get rid of the ball to save the 159 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: safety in instead of the safety, it ends up being 160 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: six points for the Rams. So the offense had really 161 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: been scuffling. But off of both of the turnovers in 162 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: the third quarter, the Packers end up scoring touchdowns. You 163 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: get the long catch and run by Tucker Craft and 164 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: then Kraft finishes off the longer a little bit more 165 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: methodical drive. There was a really nice, like twenty yard 166 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: screen passing there to Josh Jacobs that got the Packers, 167 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, really knocking on the door in a scoring range. 168 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: But Kraft finishes off that drive for another touchdown. The 169 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: second year tight end getting his first two touchdown game 170 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: career high eighty eight yards receiving. And I'm telling you 171 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: Wes that that young man number eighty five is turning 172 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: into a not just a major piece to this offense, 173 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: but a major weapon in this offense. And we're seeing 174 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: we're seeing this evolution that the more you put on 175 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: Tucker Craft's plate, the more he proves he can handle. 176 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: We all knew Xavier McKinney was going to be pretty special. 177 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: You just see what he's doing in the Giants. In fact, 178 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: he was twenty four years old. Josh Jacobs was an 179 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: All Pro. You know, Jaden Reid was the Packers' leading 180 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: receiver last year. The contributions they've gotten from Tucker Craft 181 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: in the first five games of this season, I think 182 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: constitutes at this point breakout player status. A guy that 183 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: I think when you look at the maturation of a 184 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: player in the idea of draft and development, he encapsulates 185 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: that this is a guy that didn't really get his 186 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: big opportunity until after Luke Musgraves unfortunate injury last season, 187 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: and he responded. He responded when it's time to block, 188 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: he responds when it's time to get the first down. 189 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 2: And then, as you saw in that sixty six yard pass, 190 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: when he gets the ball in the open field, his 191 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: mantra is, I'm not going to let any defensive back 192 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: tackle me, especially the first one, Yeah, and he is 193 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: not going to to be denied. And I thought it 194 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: was a good question and it was a good answer 195 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: for Matt Lafleur on Monday discussing Craft in the idea 196 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: of hey, you know he's taking some damage with the shoulder, 197 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: he's wearing the red jersey during practices, we see the 198 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: non contact jersey. Can he play this way? And as 199 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: Matt Lafuur said, he say, yeah, I think he can. 200 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: Because if you're smart about it, and you're pragmatic about 201 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: how you use your body and at what points you 202 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: sort of lay it on the line, it's going to 203 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: allow you to have a long, sustainable career. It's just 204 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: being able to know that boundary. And I think Kraft 205 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: knows it well. And the fact that this guy as 206 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: a third round pick, you know, from South Dakota State, 207 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: and we all heard the stories of him coming out 208 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: about how he could have taken more money, nil deals, 209 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: he could have transferred, he could have become a more 210 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: high profile player. This guy's a budding star man. The 211 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: way he speaks, the way he acts, the way he plays, 212 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: And the other thing Matt Lafuor said as well to 213 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: that point about the way he uses his physicality. It 214 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: reminds him in some ways of a George Kittle type 215 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: tight end, where hey, he's going to get nicked up 216 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: a couple times, what he's going to make a lot 217 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: of plays for you too, that this is the most 218 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: dynamic all around tight end that I can remember covering 219 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: so far with the Green Bay Packers. And he's in 220 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: the infancy of this thing. Yeah, I mean, he can 221 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: do everything you need a tight end to do. Yeah, 222 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: and he's doing at twenty three years old. 223 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: And what I like best about this performance in particular, 224 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: was that for as important as Tucker Craft has been 225 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: to this offense all season long, and we've seen him 226 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: make big time plays time after time, last week against Minnesota, 227 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: he had a holding penalty and he had a fumble, 228 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: probably the two biggest mistakes we've seen him make in 229 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: a long time. And he went he goes out there 230 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: the following week and it's just it's the previous week. 231 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: The mistakes were done and over with, and he got 232 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: back to being the guy that he's that he's been 233 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: right and for a young player that's not easy, but 234 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: that's how you prove that you're a pro right because 235 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: bad stuff is going to happen. Nobody's perfect, and some 236 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: mistakes are more noticeable than others. You know, when that 237 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: yellow flag comes out, when that ball hits the ground, 238 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: those are very noticeable mistakes. Other guys make mistakes too 239 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: that aren't as noticeable. Those are the ones that jump 240 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: out everybody starts talking about them. And Tucker Craft just 241 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, I asked him actually about it last week. 242 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: I haven't been involved in too many scrums at his locker, 243 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: but I was at the one last week and I 244 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: asked him, Okay, you've made a bunch of big plays. 245 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: He came out of the Vikings game with a couple 246 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: of regrets, like, how you know, what's the line between 247 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: learning from you mistakes but not dwelling on them so 248 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: they affect you the next time, right, And he basically 249 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: just said, you can't turn back the clock. You know, 250 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: it's all it's all about you learn from mistakes and 251 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: you move forward. And it's really that simple. And that's 252 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: so that you're not you're not dwelling on him. You 253 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: you process the mistakes, but you move forward. And I 254 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: thought he you know, I thought he did that over 255 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: the course of these last two weeks pretty impressive, and 256 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: quite frankly, the Packers needed him. They were down Christian Watson. 257 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: Also missing Romeo Dobbs, who was suspended for this game 258 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: for conduct detrimental to the team when he missed practice, 259 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: skipped out on practice last week Thursday and Friday. Signs 260 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: are pointing to Romeo Dobbs being back at practice on Wednesday. 261 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: That's what we heard from Matt Lafleur. So we'll see 262 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: how that situation evolves this week. But Packers needed Tucker 263 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: Craft and Jaden Reid to do their thing offensively in 264 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: this game with Watson and Dobbs out, and those guys delivered. 265 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: I felt like there's a lot of things I've played 266 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: in the outcome of this game vary, some very peculiar statistics, 267 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: the fact that Green Bay got I think into the 268 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: third quarter without having a third down conversion at that point, certainly, 269 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: the takeover, the takeaways. This streak that Xavier McKinney on 270 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 2: is on right now is just unparalleled. But I felt, overall, 271 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: as I was leaving that stadium, the difference in that 272 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: game was which team overcame their setbacks better. Packer's probably 273 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: a little bit deeper in terms of their skill positions 274 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: than what the Rams are without Puka Nakua, without Cooper Cup. 275 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: But I mean the fact was is that you saw 276 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: a player like Craft step up. You saw the second 277 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: effort yardage that a guy like Josh Shacobs provided in 278 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: this you know, including getting that touchdown at the end 279 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: of the first drive or the second drive, excuse me, 280 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: in the first quarter. The Packers just sort of responded. 281 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: I felt like the appropriate way they needed to respond. 282 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: And the other thing I will do commending Matt Lafleur 283 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: on this. Packers had a lot of adversity at the 284 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: end of last season. They're in the middle of this run, 285 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: they're trying to make the playoffs. That JayR Alexander situation 286 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: happens in Carolina and they shut him down for a 287 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: very very critical game against the Minnesota Viking. 288 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, the season was on the line. I mean New 289 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: Year's Eve week seventeen, second to last game of the season. 290 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: The Packers gotta have it, and they didn't have Alexander 291 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: for that ballgame. 292 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: And you know, in this game, Christian Watson was unlikely 293 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: to play, had not practiced because of the ankle injury. 294 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: And then you make the decision to to spend Romeo 295 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: for the conduct detrimental to the team, and talking in 296 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: the locker room with some of the players, I thought 297 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: Dontavian Wicks had one of the best points of out 298 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: of anybody. He's like, we only had four guys up 299 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: at receiver, but we know they believe in us and 300 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: we believe in each other. And Jayden Reid said he 301 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: had good conversations with rome He's excited for him to 302 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: be back here this week as well. The Packers will 303 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: proceed and they will take that next step forward, just 304 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: like they did last year without Jaira and in the 305 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: aftermath of JayR and how JayR performed then in that 306 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: game against Dallas in the playoffs. But more importantly, it 307 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: is about the idea of team and I think these 308 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: type of victories and how the Packers responded to that 309 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: adversity once again, it shows you the culture that Matt 310 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: Lafleur has built in that locker room and also the 311 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: way in which players I think have responded to each 312 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: other in understanding that when something comes up, expected unexpected injuries, setbacks, 313 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: what have you, it's all about the next guy that 314 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: could potentially make an impact for this football team, and 315 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: there were several of them in this matchup. 316 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you talk about you talk about the resiliency, 317 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: you talk about bouncing back and recovering. It is absolutely 318 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: the culture that Matt Lafleur has built in that locker room. 319 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: It's also what's embodied in his quarterback right in Jordan Love, 320 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:24,239 Speaker 1: because we saw it he made. I mean, considering the stakes. Obviously, 321 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: the interception at the end of the San Francisco playoff 322 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: game last year was the biggest mistake of his career. 323 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: This one, I would say was probably the ugliest perhaps 324 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: a mistake of his career with not taking the safety 325 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's in the back of the 326 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: end zone. He's trying to go deep on third and long, 327 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: and you know, as he sets his feet and then 328 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: gets hit, ends up, ends up resulting in disaster, in 329 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: just a gift of a pick six for the Rams. 330 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: But then what does Jordan Love do? He comes back out, 331 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: He drives the offense down the field to get a 332 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: field goal before halftime, so the halftime score is thirteen 333 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: to ten instead of thirteen to seven. And then he 334 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: comes out in the second half and in taking advantage 335 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: of the two takeaways, scores the two touchdowns, ultimately ends 336 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: up putting together a streak of nine consecutive completions after 337 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: the pick six and essentially putting seventeen points on the 338 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: board after a pick six before he throws, before he 339 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: misses on another pass, before he throws another incompletion. You 340 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: can't you can't coach that kind of response. You can't 341 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: teach the mentality, the mental fortitude it takes to respond 342 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: that way to an absolutely disastrous play that happened in 343 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: the game, which put the Packers behind a game that 344 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: they felt they were kind of in control of, even 345 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: though it was only seven to seven at the time. 346 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: But the Packers were feeling okay about how things were going, 347 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: and then suddenly that happens back by your own goal line, 348 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: and you're losing the game seventeen straight points, nine straight 349 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: completions after that disastrous play. That that is what is 350 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: moving the Packers forward right now is Jordan Love as 351 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: he's still figuring this out. He is not a finished product. 352 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: He is still he is going to make mistakes out there. 353 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: Things are not going to be perfect. But what we 354 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: know about Jordan Love is he's going to shake it 355 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: off and just play the next play. And that's invaluable 356 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: not only for him at the quarterback position, but as 357 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: an example to the team as a whole. 358 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: In my opinion, it's one hundred percent right, Mike, And 359 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 2: you know, Mattlelifuler talked about again after the game. I mean, 360 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: that is Jordan's superpower. And the more I cover this league, 361 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: there are so many intangibles you look for. You look 362 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: for size, height, You know, obviously hand size is something 363 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: people talk about forty times. You know what a guy's 364 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: arm length is like in terms of just the passing. 365 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: And then you look at the moxie side of it, 366 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: and you can't time it. You can't put it on 367 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: a stopwatch, you can't you know, throw it out there 368 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: at the co and measure it. But it's a big 369 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: part of how you play football and of how you 370 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: play quarterback, and Jordan has it. It's it's something that 371 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: people have talked about dating back to his time at 372 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: Utah State. There is this cold, cerebral side to him 373 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: that is going to weather whatever storms come in his path. Yeah, 374 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: and a couple of things happen in that game. I 375 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: got a kick out of. You know, a lot of 376 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: the Monday Morning quarterbacking of the fifty three yard pass 377 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: he had to Jden Reid early in that game too. 378 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: I've had two things that floated through my mind because 379 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: I saw Barstool put this up as like, oh, he 380 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: might have some Brett favreblood in him. 381 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, he does, always have that, he does. 382 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: I was preparing people if you go back and bring 383 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: up all the podcasts and all the appearances, I'm sure 384 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: I said on these shows too. Going into the twenty 385 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: twenty three season, I kept telling people just a reminder, 386 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: there's a lot more Brett Favre to Jordan's game than 387 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 2: they're probably is Aaron Rodgers. 388 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 389 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: Now, I think Jordan has done a wonderful job of 390 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: marrying those two things. I think Tom Clemens has built 391 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: into him the importance of fundamentals and footwork and being 392 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: on time with your throws. But at the same time, 393 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: he has a cannon of an arm and he is 394 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: not afraid to use it. And when you look at 395 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: that pass to Read yet, yeah it's triple coverage, and 396 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: you know, Read makes an incredible play. 397 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: But you know what about that. 398 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: The worst thing that happens there is somebody picks it 399 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: off at the five yard line, right Like. That was 400 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: kind of the thinking in my head with that. I'm like, 401 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 2: if you want to pin him back at the five 402 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: at that point, fine. But as Jaden Reid talked about 403 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: afterwards too, he's like Fitt reads out there somewhere. That 404 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: was the whole, you know, his mindset when he was 405 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: at Michigan State and it played out there. Jordan is 406 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: going to put his receivers in an opportunity to make 407 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 2: plays in with whatever way you break it down, whether 408 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: it's Farv, whether it's Rogers, That's what the great quarterbacks do. 409 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love the way that he started that thing. 410 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: Now, as you said with the nine straight completions and 411 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: the setback with the pick six, it's about consistency and 412 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: being able to kind of, you know, not have the 413 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: feast or famine approach this offense, be able to have 414 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: some more consistency. 415 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that's it there there, there has been a 416 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: feast or famine nature to this offense. With in the 417 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: three games that Jordan Love has played this year, I 418 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: think we have to remember he's only played three games 419 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: so far this year, and the last two games he 420 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: has been dealing with a little bit of limitation with 421 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: the knee and and all of that kind of stuff. 422 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: Here's here's what I you know, another quality that I 423 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: really like about Jordan Love and what I see out there. 424 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: And sometimes, you know, yes, the you know, the the 425 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: gun slinger Brett Favre sort of element to him, it's 426 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: gonna need to be rained in a little bit at 427 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: certain times. You know, you can't you can't just let 428 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: that go. And so there's there's gonna be some coaching 429 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: involved there. You don't want to completely take it away, 430 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: but yet it's about learning, you know, maybe the right 431 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: time to take those shots, et cetera. What I love 432 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 1: about Jordan Love is that he trusts every single one 433 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: of those receivers that out there. Dantavian Wicks has had 434 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: some rough moments, had some big moments, and you know, 435 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: Wiss has got to be able to shake some of 436 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: this stuff off and and and start just letting his 437 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: talent take over and let it shine through. But for 438 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: whatever struggles Wix is having, that doesn't stop Jordan Love 439 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: from giving him the opportunity one on one on the 440 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: double move to put the game away down the sideline 441 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: right and Jordan put that ball in a pretty good spot. Unfortunately, 442 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: Wis wasn't able to come up with it. But the 443 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: fact that you know, Wicks had had dropped a ball 444 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: earlier in the game, et cetera, and you know that 445 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: that didn't matter. The game was on the line. Jordan 446 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: Love sees Dan Tavian Wis out to his right. He 447 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: knows it's going to be one on one coverage. It's like, 448 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: all right, kid, let's you know, let's do this. Let's 449 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: put this game away right here, right now. And it 450 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: didn't work out. But those are the those are the 451 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: kinds of things that are gonna that are gonna help 452 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: a guy like Dontavian Wis get through this knowing that 453 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 1: his quarterback has the trust in it. And for me, 454 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean whether it's you know, whether it's Malie Heath 455 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 1: or bow Melton or when Romeo Dobbs comes back, when 456 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: Christian Watson comes back from the injury, it doesn't matter 457 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: which guys out there. Tucker Crafted, tight end, Luke Musgrave. 458 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: Jordan Love trusts all these guys, and I think in 459 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: the long run, you're going to go through the ups 460 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: and downs, but in the long run, that's going to 461 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: serve this offense well and and these guys are going 462 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: to hit their stride at some point. I am one 463 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: hundred percent sure of that. We've seen it. We saw 464 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: it last year. It hasn't happened this year. It's okay. 465 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: You know, their patience is involved. I understand some of 466 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: the impatients. I get it. I think they're going to 467 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: get there. And I think they're going to get there 468 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: because of some of these qualities that we've seen, The 469 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: internal qualities of the quarterback himself and his teammates is 470 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: going to get them there. 471 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: And then being the youngest team of the NFL again 472 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: going into the season, I just you feel like whatever 473 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: you see in week five is going to be different 474 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: than what you see in week five. And there's gonna 475 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 2: be this maturation, there's gonna be this progression. There's going 476 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: to be this idea of Okay, we've done these certain concepts, 477 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: we've built these concepts, and we're going to improve through 478 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: this system. When you have that type of stability, same 479 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: reason why I think there's a lot of reason for 480 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 2: optimism and hope. With the defense, Yeah, the pass rush 481 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: hasn't been as consistent as you want. The run defense's 482 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 2: lapsed at times, but the ability to take away the 483 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 2: football is something that is is that that's real and 484 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: being able to build the confidence with that. I mean, 485 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: I throw out that stat. It's a little bit affected now, 486 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: but at the end of game day on Sunday, I mean, 487 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: Xavier McKinney is like tied for fifth or six right 488 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: now in terms of interceptions for the entire league as 489 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 2: far as teams are concerned. Yeah, right, right, And then 490 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: you see him bringing along like Evan Williams, a guy 491 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: like Evan Williams alongside, and you see Javon Bullard getting 492 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: more stop reps an opportunities. You see Eddrian Cooper, if 493 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: he can put this hip injury behind him, potentially what 494 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 2: he could add at this defense as well. 495 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: That sack he had that Cooper had of I mean, 496 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: that's that's one on one in the open field and 497 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: Stafford's trying to dodge him, and I mean he just 498 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: he grabs him by the shoulder pad and just yanks 499 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: him to the ground like nobody's business. 500 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 3: I mean, the freaking play started with him over the center. 501 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's a stunt. 502 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: He looped. 503 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: He loops all the way around he has he has 504 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: to run a long way to get that sack, and 505 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: then and and he absolutely whip Stafford to the ground 506 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: for a big loss. Knock the knock the Rams out 507 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: of field goal. Right. 508 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, There's just. 509 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: There aren't very many human beings that are gonna be 510 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 2: able to do it with that, with that size, with 511 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: that speed. And again, this is why you stick with it. 512 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: You just try to corral as many of these wins 513 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: as possible, and the Packers are gonna need them. We'll 514 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 2: talk about in a second with how the NFC North 515 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: did this weekend, but yeah, this is uh, the Packers 516 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: are real and I think there's a lot more as 517 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: dire as it sometimes felt last season when you're just like, Okay, 518 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: when are they gonna catch their stride here? I just 519 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 2: feel like if they can just get some of these 520 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: wins together, if they can just start building that momentum, 521 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: the talent is up there, man, I'd put this roster 522 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 2: right now. As far as the construct of it up there, 523 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: you know, with any team in the National Football. 524 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's definitely some issues with regard to the 525 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: drop passes, the penalties, the pass rush when not blitzing, 526 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, those kinds of things that those are those 527 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: are the issues that are standing out that the packers 528 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: need to work on. But there's a heck of a 529 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: lot of good stuff that's going on out there, and 530 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: if they can, if they can get some of that 531 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: other stuff, you know, just you're never going to eliminate 532 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: all the mistakes, but if you can start to reduce them, 533 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: you start to bring them down, make fewer of them 534 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: every game than this team is really going to find itself. 535 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: I think a little bit of sponsor business here. West 536 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: Sirius XM. 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The Vikings get 546 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: to five and OH with a victory in London, which 547 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: suddenly became the last straw for Robert Sala as the 548 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: head coach of the New York Jets. Shortly before we 549 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: turn the cameras on here today, Sala was fired by 550 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: Jets owner Woody Johnson. As far as the NFC is concerned, 551 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: only two other teams aside from the Vikings in the 552 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: entire conference have fewer than two loss Washington a surprising 553 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: four and one with rooky quarterback Jaden Daniels doing his thing, 554 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: and Detroit at three and one they had the early 555 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: bye in week five, did not play this last week. 556 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: Thirteen of sixteen teams in the NFC West have two 557 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: or more losses. Hang on, buckle up, whatever you want 558 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: to say. This is going to be a long and 559 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 1: bumpy ride all the way to December and into January. 560 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: But you know, the Packers are three and two up. 561 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: They've chalked up a few wins, They've got plenty to 562 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: work on, and it's going to take nobody's gonna have 563 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: anything all that secure before December, you. 564 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: Know, no. 565 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: And it always does feel like this. There's seventeen game 566 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: weeks and it feels like you just got to claim 567 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: as many of these wins as possible, stack them in 568 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: your pile and keep pushing forward. You mentioned all the 569 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: teams that two wins, two losses, and I look at 570 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs, I look at the Minnesota Vikings, 571 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: and you respect them both for being five and oh. 572 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: But neither of these teams is you know, the two 573 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: thousand and seven New England Patriots. 574 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there game. Their games are hard fought. All of 575 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: all of these are. And you tip your cap to 576 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: the teams that find a way to win on a 577 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: consistent basis and put up a record like five and 578 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: oh by early October, because it's not easy to do. 579 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: And you look at how close it could be for 580 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: Kansas City. 581 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: Now, I'm guessing they'd probably still be four and one 582 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: if they lose that one to Baltimore in the opener. 583 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: But Minnesota has been in some knockdown, drag out fights, 584 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: and the Jets did not go away in that game. No, 585 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: the offense struggled for Minnesota again in the second half 586 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: to find some you know, when they needed the series, 587 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: they got it, but for the most part, they really 588 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: struggled to move the ball without Aaron Jones on the field. 589 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they and the Vikings needed a defensive touchdown 590 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: early on Andrew Van Ginkl gets a pick six. They 591 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: end up beating the Jets by six points. The early 592 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: pick six was the difference in the ballgame as it turned. 593 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, you look at Kansas City. They 594 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: had their leading rushers Kareem Hunt with one hundred and 595 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: two yards as long of his longest carry was eight 596 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: yards Juju Smith Schuster, who's been kind of bouncing around 597 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: the league as one hundred and thirty yards. I mean, 598 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is not doing this with the complimentary parts 599 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: that we talk about here in Green Bay right now. 600 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: He's having to. 601 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: Now Travis Kelcey erases some of that, but again, you 602 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: have to work out with the pieces that you have. 603 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: This week was such an interesting week though. I mean, 604 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: the Bears took care of business against the Panthers like 605 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: they like they should. I mean, you look at how 606 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: these these games played out with just the complete dumpster 607 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: fire right now that's happening in Cleveland and Washington taking 608 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: it to them. Yeah, a good Browns defense being able 609 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: to not be able to stop the Jalen Daniels train. 610 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: I mean, over and over again, and certainly we'll be 611 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: talking later this week about the Cardinals and them being 612 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: able to turn back and have an answer for the 613 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: forty Niners. This league is so predicated on parody that 614 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: when you see teams emerge, whether it's four wins five wins, 615 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: you have to respect it while also acknowledging that it's 616 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: like the Green Bay Packers are not that far away 617 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: from it for all their flaws and all their warts 618 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: in the early part of the season. 619 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know people get tired of me, you know, 620 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: saying things like it's a week to week league and 621 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: this league is bonkers, and you know, crazy stuff happens. 622 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Wes. I mean, Week five in the NFL, 623 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: there were three blocked field goals, two of them returned 624 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: for touchdowns in the same week in the NFL. Right, 625 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: and hats off Kolbe Wooden for the Green Bay Packers 626 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: gets activated blocks an. 627 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: Extra point YEP in the gaming. 628 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 1: We didn't even talk about that, but that certainly had 629 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: a factor on the scoreboard as things went, and then 630 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: the Rams went for two later on they didn't get it, 631 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: so it was a five point game instead of possibly 632 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: a three point game with just two normal extra points 633 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But my point is It's 634 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: an example of the crazy stuff that happens. I mean, 635 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: one second, Seattle is lining up for a field goal 636 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: with a minute to go to tie the New York 637 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: Giants at home, and the next thing they know, that 638 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: ball is blocked and the guy's running the other way, 639 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: and the New York Giants come out of Seattle, of 640 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: all places, with a victory. And so you just, yes, 641 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: there are there. As I said, there's some impatience with 642 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: the Packers, there's some frustrations at how things look at times, 643 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. You just have to keep plowing through. 644 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: You do your best to try to chalk up as 645 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: many wins as you can. And as Matt Lafair likes 646 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: to say, all you can do is keep putting in 647 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: the work week after week. You put in the work 648 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: to get the team to where it needs to be. 649 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: Because this is a long, long roup. 650 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: And there's one division right now where everybody's above five 651 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: hundred and that's the way it's going to go. And 652 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: I said it in Insider inbex on Tuesday, Packers cannot 653 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: do anything about the division right now. They got three 654 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: more games before they worry about a division opponent. Again, 655 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: you have to pick up as many of these wis 656 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: as you can because they're going to be hard to 657 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: come by within the NFC North. The Bears defense, the 658 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: way they're taking the woot ball away, the way Minnesota 659 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: is taking away the football. I mean, these are some 660 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: difficult opponents that you're going to be facing within your division. 661 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: For as much, you know, as people have wanted to 662 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: rip on the North in the past, I've always said 663 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: it that the amount of teams, yes, green Bay was 664 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: the staple, but the amount of times the Lions, Bears, 665 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: and Vikings all found their ways into the playoffs over 666 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 2: the last twelve years, it's noteworthy. And right now all 667 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: three of these teams, other than you know, with green 668 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: Bay being here, all four of these teams, they have 669 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 2: something to believe in right now, and I think that 670 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: makes this division very dangerous. 671 00:32:59,200 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 672 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: The somewhat big picture look for the Packers right now 673 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: is you have four games before the bye week, and 674 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: three of those four are at Lambeufield. This is an 675 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: important stretch for green Bay because you don't you don't 676 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: get stretches like this very often. Three out of four 677 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: at Lambelfield before you get to that mid season by 678 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: and it'll start this week against the Cardinals, a team 679 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: that we will talk about on our next show, but 680 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: for now, we're gonna call it a rap on this 681 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 682 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team continuing with everything going on 683 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: here at twelve sixty five, we'll have it for you 684 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: on Packers dot com for West, I'm Miike. Thank you 685 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: for tuning in. Everybody. We will see you next time.