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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too. Our number two here of the drive. It's

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. West Shooler

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Speaker 2: and Matt Williamson mock Draft Hour in the books. Now

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Speaker 2: it's time uh to roll along here Matt with some

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Speaker 2: interesting rumors from Matthew Berry kind of on the on

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Speaker 2: the tail end of Combine week here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, let me preface this a little bit. I did

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Speaker 3: not see Matthew at this combine. I almost always do. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean he.

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Speaker 2: Comes on with us, he often does. Yeah, it's weird.

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Speaker 2: We had an amazing year of guests, probably our most

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Speaker 2: loaded ever and he wasn't one of them. Yea.

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Speaker 3: And I consider I'm a decent friend to ESPN together.

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Speaker 3: And he started his podcast when we started Ours of

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Speaker 3: Football Today a million years ago, so really really good dude.

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Speaker 3: He had his own table. I don't know if he

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Speaker 3: went all the way over there, Matthew, and I never

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Speaker 3: saw him sitting at it, but this is something he's done,

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Speaker 3: I think since he left ESPN. So it's like three

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Speaker 3: or four years in a row, and I always make

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Speaker 3: a note to try to find it the day after

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Speaker 3: the combine because he's not a reporter, but he talks

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Speaker 3: to people and he's very likable. I think people just

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Speaker 3: tell him stuff, and when he puts this out, he's

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Speaker 3: remarkably accurate. When you look back, he nails a lot

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Speaker 3: of them. So I thought it was worth a segment.

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Speaker 2: I remember a few years ago when I don't remember

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Speaker 2: if what exactly, if I was on air with you,

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Speaker 2: if it was you and Dale and I was producing, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all three of us, because you know, at the combine

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Speaker 2: and things like that, we always kind of mix up

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Speaker 2: our shows and cross exactly right. But I remember you

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Speaker 2: saying to me, like he mentioned I'm working on my

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Speaker 2: my article about the things, and I remember, like we

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Speaker 2: go to break and you were like, hey, because you

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Speaker 2: guys used to be good with this with me by

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Speaker 2: like my first couple of combines in training camp. She'd

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Speaker 2: be like, pay attention to that, Like that's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not here and try he's not chefter trying

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Speaker 2: And he's not some clickbait, no school something trying to

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Speaker 2: just get a bunch of clicks and impression.

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Speaker 3: He's very comfortable. Yeah, yes, he's doing just fine. So

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Speaker 3: do you know he got to start as a married

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Speaker 3: with children writer, No kidding. Yeah, he's got a really

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Speaker 3: interesting backstory. Yeah, he was super smart writing for like

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Speaker 3: one of the biggest comedies in the world at the time.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, I'm gonna try this fantasy football stuff.

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Speaker 3: I just want to give it a shot, and he

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Speaker 3: was great at it.

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Speaker 2: I love people with interesting career paths. Yeah, you're you're

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Speaker 2: one of those people. See mine's kind of boring. Like,

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Speaker 2: went to college, did the internshire, Yeah, got the job,

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: I do love people that get to this or any.

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Speaker 3: He became a doctor, like, yeah, you're supposed to take Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I went to school for seven years, didn't come away

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Speaker 2: with a medical degree or no, that's me. I did

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Speaker 2: one extra semester. Okay, I had to take a victory

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Speaker 2: lap in there. He posted thirty five interesting things that

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Speaker 2: he heard the combine. I don't think we need to

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Speaker 2: go over all thirty five.

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Speaker 3: No, but there's some noteworthy stuff.

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Speaker 2: But there's Steelers in here. A couple of times. There's

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Speaker 2: some big kind of quarterback domino stuff in here too.

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Speaker 2: So with that, Matt, the first one I think, again

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Speaker 2: just kind of domino effect, is hearing that Derek Carr

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Speaker 2: Saints are looking to trade him to the New York Jets.

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Speaker 3: The Jets come up a few times here in conversation.

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Speaker 3: I've read this just before we I left the house,

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Speaker 3: Jets come up linked to Kyler a little.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he said, if not David Carr, Kyler or Fernando Mendoza,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, I think they're the only team that could

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Speaker 3: with the Jets first round pick next year, which you

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Speaker 3: Chances are one of those is gonna just land a quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Picks, kind of what the Texans did a few years ago.

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Speaker 3: You could make a story where that trade makes sense

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Speaker 3: best quarterback you've ever seen come out. I might go

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Speaker 2: And we talked to h Myers of on Raiders and

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Speaker 2: the Raidiers audio network at Radio Row in the Combine.

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Speaker 2: He seemed to think that, yeah, the Raiders will listen,

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Speaker 2: but it's going to take a Godfather type offer forget

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Speaker 2: he said. He said, yeah, I listened to commercials on

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Speaker 2: the radio and I watched them on TV. But that

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Speaker 2: doesn't always mean that I'm buying. He's like, I listened,

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Speaker 3: I heard you. I heard you but I'm not always,

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Speaker 3: you're not even you're not.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. He did have a funny way of saying that,

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Speaker 2: speaking of Kyler Murray will not play for the Arizona

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Speaker 2: The Jets have identified Car. But if not, we'll circle

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Speaker 2: back to Kyler Murray. If it doesn't happen for either

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Speaker 2: he he also heard Atlanta could be in play for

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Okay, if you're the Jets, if you took Car,

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Speaker 3: would you be interested in Simpson at seventeen? I think I,

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Speaker 3: I mean you three three first round next year. I

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Speaker 3: you could see that mock situation. Simpson Carr could be

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Speaker 2: If you think if you think there's something there with Simpson, absolutely, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it comes down to you, right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: But but if you wait a year, you're also building

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Arizona, Matthew Berry says, I hear they want

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Speaker 2: Malik Willis badly. One source told me and I quote,

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Speaker 2: Malik Willis to Arizona for thirty million dollars a year

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Speaker 3: I've heard this from a lot of different angles, like

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Speaker 3: that might just happen the day that the pit tampering, and.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I get it. It'd be a heck of a

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Speaker 2: And yeah, but man, he'd be going from some not so.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Green Bay is a good situation where he's

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Speaker 2: been in some rough situations and man, this would be

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Speaker 3: It would at least it's a new offensive mine. Yeah, coach, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the receivers aren't terrible with McBride and those guys. And

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Speaker 3: if the same reason, I'm super inchest for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: If you're Arizona, you might have solved your problem. And

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Speaker 3: they have a lot of cap space. So I don't

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Speaker 3: know if it'll be thirty. That's a big number, but

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Speaker 3: I think that's the most logical fit.

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Speaker 2: Here's an interesting one, speaking of the Minnesota Vikings and

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Speaker 2: quarterback situations, Matthew Berry says, if I had to bet

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Speaker 2: on today starting quarterback for the Vikings in Week one,

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Speaker 2: I would take the field over JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: I would too. I've said that for a while. You

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Speaker 2: But to start Week one, I figured it would have

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Speaker 3: I think Geno's more sought after than people think too.

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Speaker 3: He pops up in here once or twice, but first

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Speaker 3: people that I trust, I think blame the Raiders more

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Speaker 3: than they blame Geno for last year. I think Geno's

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Speaker 3: like the perfect McCarthy sidekick.

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Speaker 2: Back to Minnesota could be interested in trading for mac jones.

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Speaker 2: If not, they'll take a look at Kyler Murray and

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Speaker 2: gene Know Smith and yes, a potential reunion with Kirk

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Speaker 3: Sense, okay. And there's a lot of names we've thrown

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Speaker 3: out there for Minnesota quarterbacks. He'll probably get one of them.

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Speaker 2: Right, absolutely uh, And he says they do not. Minnesota

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Speaker 2: has absolutely zero interest into a tag of Viola.

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Speaker 2: No one has any interest in what he's gonna cost. Now,

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Speaker 2: they're not going to create agent. He'll he'll, he'll be

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Nan was looking at him as he's our starter.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the Dolphins, they will not trade a Chane

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Speaker 2: or Jalen Waddle as they consider them cornerstones for this rebuild.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I can understand that, but let's revisit that at

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Speaker 3: a trade deadline when they're zero to eight, then you

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Speaker 3: might consider it, you know.

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Speaker 2: Then you just might. Let's see here, let's see there

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Speaker 2: is more of a market for Joe Flacco than people expect.

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Speaker 2: Could be a reunion in Atlanta with Kevin Stefanski, depending

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Speaker 2: on Michael Pennox's health.

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Speaker 3: That didn't blow me away. I thought he played pretty well.

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Speaker 3: I thought he played really poorly with the Browns, and

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Speaker 3: then he went to the Bengals and played quite well.

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Speaker 2: So he could be a sidekick final quarterback like Ti.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, that would make sense the good mentor you're

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Speaker 3: right right right, big arm. Similar style, Penix doesn't run,

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Speaker 2: Final quarterback Nugget Colts expected to move on from Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 2: as we discussed I think last week and in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: I want him to be like a chief potential landing

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Speaker 2: spot for him. Sounds like Cleveland because Todd Monk. Todd

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Speaker 2: Monkin thinks that he can develop him into Lamar Jackson's

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Speaker 2: style athletically gifted. Okay, fine, but how are you going

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Speaker 2: to develop him in seven other quarterbacks at the.

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Speaker 3: Right right right with Watson Lumen.

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Speaker 2: Or whatever and Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 3: I want Richardson to go to like Buffalo or Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somewhere behind a future athleticism.

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Speaker 3: In front of you. Yeah, that just pressure on your

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Speaker 3: shoulders at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could completely, completely agree. Perhaps the most surprising

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Speaker 2: rumor that he heard all week Kenneth Walker to the New

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Speaker 2: York Football Giants. Seattle was expecting to lose him.

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Speaker 3: People been talking about this for like three days now.

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Speaker 3: I get it, and I think it also goes to

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Speaker 3: show that Skataboo is a little overrated.

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Speaker 3: Now, right, I mean, he compete with AJ Brown and Goddard,

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Speaker 2: According to a league source, Let's see here, Uh, the

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Speaker 2: You could, uh Fernana Mendoza. Here you go, here's one

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Speaker 3: If you seem like the Raiders too, I don't mind

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Speaker 3: Like the Raiders are a good example. They played Powers

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Speaker 2: They all can't be, you know, as smart as those

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Speaker 2: I it's it's gonna be an ISSU be fun here

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Speaker 2: we will get to your tweets before we get up

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Speaker 2: So today four o'clock was the NFL tag deadline, franchise tag,

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Speaker 3: You're it, yep.

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Speaker 3: One of the shoes to drop in the NFL calendar, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, exactly right. So let's talk about some of these

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Speaker 3: I kind of thought they might, but you know, we

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Speaker 2: who could check on that for us.

438
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Speaker 3: I'm almost I'm certain of one is the cowboy Brown

439
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Speaker 3: that picked off O'Donnell twice. I think he hit free

440
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 3: agency because he wasn't very good. He just had to

441
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 3: and they gave him big money somewhere else, and Dallas

442
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 3: was like, all right, so what.

443
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Speaker 2: Least it has happened before. That's from Major League. Speaking

444
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 2: of running backs and the franchise tag Breis Hall has

445
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: been tagged by the Jets. He took to his uh

446
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 2: social media accounts and posted, I've always been the type

447
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 2: to bet on myself Tyler Nick Foles, Nick.

448
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Speaker 3: Full that's a good one too, yeah, falls all.

449
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Speaker 2: Right, one of the greatest. Like I love good crowd banter. Yeah,

450
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 2: like I love like the English soccer games. And you

451
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 2: got the two fans chanting back and forth.

452
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Speaker 3: You know.

453
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Speaker 2: I worked for the Eagles for three years. I was.

454
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Speaker 2: I was with them when they won that first Super

455
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Speaker 2: Bowl with Nick Foles, they blew out the Minnesota Vikings

456
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Speaker 2: in that NFC championship. I will never forget being in

457
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 2: the booth and it's like thirty eight to seven and

458
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: the celebrations are on. It's late in the fourth quarter

459
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: and seventy thousand Eagles fans are going doing the skull

460
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Speaker 2: channel the Vikings but they're going boom boom, fols.

461
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Speaker 3: Foals.

462
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Speaker 2: I was like, my goodness, that is great fans.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder how you get that get all seventy

464
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Speaker 3: on the same page.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it started with like a section and

466
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Speaker 2: then it's just rights, like that's so good.

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Speaker 3: Full.

468
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Speaker 2: fALS.

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Speaker 3: Seventy thousand person started that one person. Yeah, like me,

470
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Speaker 3: and you sit down, like, let's try this.

471
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Speaker 2: One person was the whole.

472
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Speaker 3: Stadium eventually only nine Miller lights deep right right, you

473
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Speaker 3: know it's a real good idea. It was.

474
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Speaker 2: It was a great one. That's great. Breise Hall has

475
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Speaker 2: been tagged by the Jets.

476
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Speaker 3: I think ye, they didn't hide that they have so

477
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Speaker 3: much money.

478
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 2: Big payday for him, which he'll take.

479
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if it could be a trade, can it could

480
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Speaker 3: be you.

481
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 2: Can flip them for a second round pick to the

482
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Speaker 2: Chiefs or somebody like that at the deadline. I think

483
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Speaker 2: it makes I think it makes a lot of sense.

484
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Speaker 3: Heart like, why would you give a running back money?

485
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Speaker 3: But you got to pay somebody.

486
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Speaker 2: You got to pay somebody. You got to have somebody

487
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: on that offense that you know can do something for

488
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Speaker 2: you and maybe, you know, maybe you flip them for

489
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Speaker 2: for a second round pick at the deadline or something

490
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Speaker 2: like that. The Vikings are now open and listening for

491
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Speaker 2: offers for pro Bowl ed rusher Jonathan Grenard. I heard

492
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Speaker 2: that they would like to keep them, but they have

493
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Speaker 2: salary cap isshoes and are willing to have trade conversation.

494
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Speaker 3: Like Aaron Jones and Hardrave were both getting cut. At

495
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Speaker 3: some point they're gonna have to give money to some

496
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Speaker 3: kind of quarterback. You know that's not gonna be cheap.

497
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Speaker 3: That's at least in the starting competition. Grenard's a little

498
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Speaker 3: older though. I think he's like thirty one or thirty two.

499
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Speaker 3: He's fine. He's just more of a number two all

500
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 3: day long. It's kind of been an underrated player, but

501
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 3: now he might be a little over it.

502
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: He'll be twenty nine here soon.

503
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Speaker 3: Oh I thought he was older than that.

504
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: He'll be twenty nine soon. Market a couple more weeks here.

505
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 3: Quality edge rushers have markets, especially like after the Crosby

506
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: domino falls and Hendrickson land somewhere or whatever.

507
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: Where else we at here Trey Hendrickson not being tagged

508
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 2: by Cincinnati and will become an unrestricted free agent.

509
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Speaker 3: That just screams if they had some kind of deal

510
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 3: in place, you know, they didn't put in writing or

511
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: didn't let you have to know about it or whatever.

512
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 3: But okay, from last year, you mean, like when he

513
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 3: was holding out, then they gave him a little more money.

514
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Speaker 2: If you finish this year out for Ye'll.

515
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Speaker 3: Just let you walk and everybody will be happy. Play

516
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 3: this year out. And go from there.

517
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Speaker 2: The Indianapolis Colts are using a transition tag on Daniel Jones.

518
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: The transition tag thirty seven point eight million for quarterback.

519
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: That's more than six yes for quarterbacks. That's a little

520
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 2: over x million cheaper than the franchise tag. But it

521
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: does give Daniel Jones the opportunity to sign an offer

522
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Speaker 2: sheet with another team that the Colts would have the

523
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Speaker 2: right to match.

524
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Speaker 3: So there's a lot to on peel here, and I

525
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Speaker 3: might be a little off in my figure in, but

526
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Speaker 3: they can still use We gotta be honest here. The

527
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: deadline is actually in forty five minutes from when we're recording,

528
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Speaker 3: because I only say that because I think there's a

529
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Speaker 3: chance they franchise Pierce as well. They still have forty

530
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Speaker 3: five minutes from when we're actually speaking these words to

531
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Speaker 3: do it or not, and they basically told Pierce we're

532
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 3: not letting you go. I don't think Pierce is worth

533
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Speaker 3: the franchise tag for a receiver. But you can overspend

534
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: these circumstances and you could talk contract with them, But

535
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Speaker 3: wouldn't you want to know who your quarterback is before

536
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Speaker 3: you sign a long term deal with the Colts? And

537
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Speaker 3: they can at least be like, Daniel's not going anywhere,

538
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 3: we tagged him too. You can use both tags, I mean,

539
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Speaker 3: So that's kind of what I want to open with.

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Speaker 3: As for Jones, he's got to be a really tough

541
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Speaker 3: negotiation right now because of his injury. You know, you

542
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: got him at a bargain a year ago coming away

543
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: from the Vikes when he hadn't really done anything anywhere,

544
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: and he played really really well and then he got

545
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: really really hurt. So the transition tag can at least

546
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: work of Daniel. You're You're more than welcome to go

547
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: get in touch with Atlanta and Cleveland or whoever, and

548
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: if they decide the fifty, well match it or we won't.

549
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 3: That's kind of like I remember when Lamar was shopping

550
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: himself or whatever. They were. Letting the league do the

551
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: negotiations for you. I see it this way, you see

552
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: it that way. You want more than I want to give,

553
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: as all negotiations go. But if you go around the league,

554
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: maybe we'll both have a better idea what your true

555
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 3: value is. We can't come up with it on our own,

556
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 3: so let the league do it. My best is the

557
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: league is not going to even barely contact him.

558
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Speaker 2: I was just going to be a cold to be

559
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 2: way different if he was coming off a healthy season

560
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: and he looked like he did in the first ten

561
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Speaker 2: games of the year.

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Speaker 3: Right, I think it's going to be Jones and Peers

563
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Speaker 3: getting some way.

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Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense.

565
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I kind of hope Pittman gets cut, is

566
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 3: what the bottom line is.

567
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: And then Matt and perhaps the most stunning decision of

568
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: the day, And it feels like we see this about

569
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 2: every off season now. Drew Dolman, twenty seven year old

570
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Speaker 2: center of the Chicago Bears, has announced his decision to retire.

571
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Speaker 2: He just signed a three year, forty two million dollar

572
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: contract with Chicago last season.

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Speaker 3: It was quite good.

574
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Speaker 2: Was a pro bowler, started all seventeen games, played all

575
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: one thousand, one hun and fifty four offensive snaps for Chicago.

576
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Speaker 2: Retiring at the age of twenty seven.

577
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Speaker 3: Remember the Bears went out and got two guards in

578
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Speaker 3: the center this time last year. They signed Ben Johnson

579
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: free agency and trades hit and they just rebuilt the

580
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 3: entire entirety of their offense. It was great and he

581
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Speaker 3: was really good. As you mentioned, Now, all this is

582
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Speaker 3: hard on GMS. This is like the Shazir tuit situation. Like,

583
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Speaker 3: I didn't see this coming. I thought I'd at least

584
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Speaker 3: get it another year or two twenty seven three year

585
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Speaker 3: deal on the guy. I thought he was happy, we

586
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: were happy. And oh, by the way, Osby Trapillo was

587
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: their second round pick last year inserted at left tack

588
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 3: got hurt.

589
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 2: The playoffs got hurt.

590
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: In the playoffs too, So this old line that you love,

591
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: you still have two guards and right.

592
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: Thought the whole line was coming back shape.

593
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: We're just gonna go heavy on.

594
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Speaker 2: We got to survive this injury to our left tackle.

595
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: Maybe we're trading for Max Cosby. But all of a sudden,

596
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: it's like I any left tackle in the center. I

597
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: didn't see those coming at all. I mean, it's those

598
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 3: are the things to throw gms for a loop. And

599
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: he probably just doesn't want to play football anymore. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, does he have to get back some

601
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 3: of the signing bonus? I don't always know.

602
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but it sounds like his dad was

603
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 2: a player and a coach, so you know, they're basically

604
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: saying he wouldn't make this decision lightly. Uh, he's a Stanford,

605
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: Stanford guy, so I'm sure he's very bright, and.

606
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: Maybe think Andrew luck because the Stanford thing.

607
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: And Cash retired, think a little bit earlier than we

608
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: all expected.

609
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: Like I can go do a lot of other things.

610
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Speaker 2: I got my nest egg, I made some money. Yeah,

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00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: I've got a great degree. I can go do a

612
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: lot of other things that aren't going to beat the

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00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: crap out of me.

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00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: And I'm totally guessing, but maybe Daddy Dolman has terrible

615
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: knees or you know, things from being a player and coach.

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Speaker 2: I'll be like I would imagine, right, maybe he's seen

617
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: his dad for twenty years, you know, hobbling around and

618
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: And maybe Dad's told him since he's seven years old.

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00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: I should Those last two years crushed me. I had

621
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: hung it up before that. Yeah, you know, who knows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wishing him all the best, hopefully, yes, you know,

623
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Speaker 2: hopefully it's not because of any under underlying you know,

624
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: anything crazy or anything like that, but certainly surprising news

625
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: across it.

626
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: Like what a parallel for the Steelers would be. I

627
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 3: mean it's not like Porter or Frasier, but it'd be

628
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: somebody a little older than that that you're counting on.

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Speaker 2: Like Mason McCormick. Maybe if he did this next year,

630
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: right right, right, he goes to the Pro Bowl and

631
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: then retires.

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00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: Like somebody kind of just invested in and we're happy

633
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: with And then I didn't think we had that need.

634
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: Now we have that need, right, Yeah, there's I don't

635
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: think there's a direct parallel for the Steelers, but maybe Heismith, Yeah, you.

636
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: Know, somebody like that. And I think I missed a

637
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: better player, but Dolman was a pro bowler.

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00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what you're saying. And it's it's surprising

639
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: for Chicago and as you mentioned as a GM, it's like, oh, man,

640
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: I thought we had our our off season and our

641
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: plan and our news. Here comes a massive curveball.

642
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: We wish it really hard to overcome.

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00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: Wishing wishing him all the best. Certainly one more segment

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Speaker 2: to go. You know what that means. We will close

645
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646
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Speaker 2: Final segment of the Drive here on this Tuesday, ins

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Speaker 2: no what that means. Time to go to the ex

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Speaker 2: Twitter and shut this thing down for the day. Cody

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Speaker 2: tweets us and he says, if I can get my

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Speaker 2: a couple of years old. I hope it's not the computer.

657
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: Cody tweets us and says, in theory, next year's quarterback

658
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: class should be better, but can we ever find a

659
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: firm list of guys that will be out of eligibility?

660
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: Dante More just turned down being the potential number two

661
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: pick in the draft to come back to school. Expect

662
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: that to continue. Yeah, that's hard in today's day and age.

663
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Speaker 3: Cody.

664
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because even the guys that seemingly might be out

665
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: of eligibility, we've seen that change in Trinidad. Change Diego Pavia.

666
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: Everybody thought that he was going to have to come

667
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: out last year. He was able to get another year

668
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: of eligibility.

669
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Speaker 3: But this is more up your ally than mine. I mean,

670
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: but what I can tell you is there's about eight

671
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: to ten really strong names today, which is much better

672
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: than most marches. You know, any season going in now,

673
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: does Arch have to come out? The Sellers have to

674
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: come out? Does what's the space of Oregon have to

675
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: come out? I don't know the answer to that. Ohio State,

676
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: all these dudes, I would imagine Chambliss does. Yes, there's

677
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: no way he's in More. But so I don't know.

678
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: That Sellers is out of eligibility after this year.

679
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: I kind of thought More was too, And I know

680
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: that he could have went back and.

681
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: He could stay two more really the same with Arch,

682
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: but I would but I would expect.

683
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: I understand the appeal of going back totally, way higher

684
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: than More totally.

685
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: But I I think I think of the big name

686
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: guys that we've kind of kept tabs on most of

687
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: the Yeah, there'll be there'll be a couple who end

688
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: up going back, certain but of the of the Arch

689
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: and the Sellers and the Dante More and the Jaden

690
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: Mavia had a USC and and some.

691
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: Of the mature materia, I think he.

692
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: Is going to be out of eligibility. I think is

693
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: out of eligibility.

694
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: So who's the dude that transferred from Cincinnati somewhere people

695
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: really like.

696
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: Sam Levitt as well too. I think he's out of eligibility.

697
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 2: So by the time I'll take you what Cody, by

698
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: the time we do around campus again in August or September,

699
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: probably when we bring that back, I'll have a more

700
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: concrete answer on that for you. Terry tweets us and says,

701
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: where or is It's a great question, so hard to

702
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: get concrete answers on that stuff.

703
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: Now.

704
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: Terry tweets and says, where or if does running back

705
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: fit into the Steelers draft plans? Thanks and keep up

706
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: the good work.

707
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: Maybe no matter what, I'm using a fifth or six

708
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: round pick on a back.

709
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: And obviously what happens with Kenneth Gainwell next week plays

710
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 2: a huge factor.

711
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: It does. But I just don't think you can count

712
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: on Caleb Johnson to be in the equation. There's a

713
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: handful of dudes on this team that I'm really happy

714
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: are going to be in La Trobe, and I'm really

715
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: happy that they're current Steelers, but I'm just not counting

716
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: on them for anything good, bad, or ugly. It's like

717
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: Caleb Roman, Wilson Trice, you know, like talented dudes are

718
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: just unproven that aren't going to interfere with the way

719
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: I build roster, and everything I get out of them

720
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: is great, but I just can't count on them.

721
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: So he thinks Washington from Arkansas could be the big

722
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: back that the Steelers needle me ran.

723
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, size speed guy in the best of ways, maybe,

724
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: but I think it's a little bit of an underrated need. Yeah.

725
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: Even if you resign game, well, I don't know that

726
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: you're done done.

727
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: Right A body in that room. Smooth Dave tweets us

728
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: and says, after the combine, has your mind changed on

729
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: any positions you would target in the draft as opposed

730
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: to free agency or vice versa.

731
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: I was gonna say safety, but I like it, so

732
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: I still like a lot of the free agents. I

733
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: just like the safety class better in draft.

734
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: I like the safety class much better than we did

735
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: going into this thing. So I would say before the combine,

736
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: I probably thought you had to get a safety and

737
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: free agency. Now I would still like to. I don't

738
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: think you're doomed if you.

739
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: Don't, and if you do, I'm still drafting another. Again,

740
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: you really only have one right in this minute.

741
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: And if you're not counting Ramsey, if you're not counting.

742
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: Ramsey, here's a sneaky one and kind of dawned on

743
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: me when we made that Vega pick in week one

744
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: or in our one. There's more guards that I like

745
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: on day two, you know, the Georgia Tech kid. I

746
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: mean some of these tackles might yeah, yeah, yeah, the

747
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: Oregon kid. I mean that I'm a big believer that

748
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 3: I wanted Siamalu or one veteran in the room.

749
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: But if it doesn't work out that way, I think

750
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: that's a good answer.

751
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: I think you could grab a third round guard that

752
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 3: you'd be pretty happy with. Yep.

753
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: I Also, I know it's not a position to need,

754
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 2: but I would like to add an off ball linebacker

755
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: at some point in this draft too, because I just

756
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: think that this this I think guys that are going

757
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: to typically go in the fifth round would have gone

758
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: in the third or fourth, and just pat guys that

759
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: are going to go in the second round could have

760
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 2: been first round picks.

761
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: There's another position like that that's even less of a need.

762
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: Is tight end.

763
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

764
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 3: I mean I bet that when the six round rolls around,

765
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: a lot of teams will have fourth round grades on

766
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: remaining tight ends because not every that's not your position

767
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: every team drafts. Sure, there was a ton of them

768
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: invited to the combine. They did well. It's a good

769
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 3: group that you might just be like, I don't need

770
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 3: a tight end, but he's by far the highest guy

771
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 3: on the board.

772
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: It's like I told you when we were doing that

773
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: mock draft exercise and we got to the I think

774
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: it was the third round picks and Michael Trigg was

775
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: still there and I was, yeah, right right, I know

776
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: it's not a there, but he might be a top

777
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: twenty five player in this class by the time it's

778
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: all said and done. B K tweeted us last night

779
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: and said, start the mock draft simulators. Well, BK asking

780
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: you shall receive boom. We did that in the uh

781
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: we did that in the first hour of the show.

782
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: Sudesh tweets us and says, I've been I've really been

783
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 2: stewing on the idea of signing a free agent wide

784
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: receiver and then drafting two more, maybe even three if

785
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: they keep all twelve of their picks.

786
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: Your thoughts you saying the same thing forever.

787
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: So we just in our in our first hour exercise

788
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: where you have Malachi Field's second round and guy out

789
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 2: of Georgia whose name is escaping me right now? Burke

790
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: now Birch's the Oblas the Oklahoma guy.

791
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: Also a short name like that.

792
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: But regardless, regardless, this is our producers who trying to

793
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: trying to mouth it to us. I think that I

794
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: don't even think you need to stew on that idea.

795
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: I think they need to add three wide receivers and

796
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: one better be a veteran and one better be a

797
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: veteran free agency, and then you draft two more. I

798
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 2: mean that makes a ton of sense.

799
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: I think it's like Zacharie Branch by the way, yeah Branch, Okay,

800
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: I think it's like Dobbs, Pittman or Ayuk somebody like that.

801
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: You know, would Naylor fit that bill for you?

802
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: Yes, except I think with Naylor.

803
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: Your pigeonhole in yourself on who you draft a little bit?

804
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, then the needs not is as addressed, and maybe

805
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: a fine signing. I like them, don't get me wrong.

806
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: I mean I guess you could probably get Naylor, I mean,

807
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: or Ridley and Naylor, someone who stocks really low right

808
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 3: now you're taking a chance on, and then the second

809
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: round guy too, and maybe don't take one to fifth.

810
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: But this has been my plan all along. Give me

811
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: a veteran I know, and then one of my top

812
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: two picks is the receiver and another you know.

813
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 2: I think that's the blueprint as we sit here today

814
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: and again about a week from now, we'll have a

815
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: much clear review once once the negotiation period starts.

816
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: I mean really like eight days from now. Yeah, I

817
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: bet they have a receiver. They better yeah, yeah, yeah.

818
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: Eight days from now when we're doing the show. It

819
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: started four talking about so and so is officially a steel.

820
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's on a three year deal and you at

821
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: least got him right.

822
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: And now what do you do with the rest of

823
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: the wide receiver room? Matthew tweets us and says always

824
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: great shows. Well, thank you, matthe you appreciate that random question.

825
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: But why are we not hearing about the Minnesota Vikings

826
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: and Malik Willis chance to right there? Wrong with JJ

827
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: McCarthy money, Yeah, because they don't have any mind.

828
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: That's why they fired their GM. Because they've made a

829
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: ton of picks and invested in a bunch of dudes

830
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: and it hasn't worked out well lately, so they're in

831
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: a bind. That's why Grenard could be traded. That's why

832
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: Jones and Hardgrave were getting caught.

833
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: Do you think if they had You think if they

834
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 2: had the money, they'd be interested in going to Willis

835
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: as opposed to like a Cousins or a Kyler.

836
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: It all depends on how much faith they haven't reviving McCarthy.

837
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 3: I don't have much faith.

838
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: I can't imagine it's much Yeah, right, right right, Matt

839
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: tweets us. Since we go from Matthew to matt are

840
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: these all your burner accounts over here?

841
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: They are?

842
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: Matt tweets us and says, great job is always at

843
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: the combine. I think one of the biggest takeaways from

844
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: your guys guests is how respected Patrick Graham seems to

845
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: be around the league. I'm excited to see what he

846
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: can do to rejuvenate a stale defense.

847
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: It's not a question, but that's a really good observation.

848
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: You definitely got a lot of that from people like

849
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: what he's been with, terrible teams, terrible head coaches, and

850
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: terrible talent.

851
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: And you know what really spoke to that to me

852
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: is when we talked to Q Myers, the Raiders guy

853
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: that I think you and I had on Tuesday, I

854
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: think that was that was our very first guest was

855
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: away from us, right. He did not have the nicest

856
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: things to say about Pete Carroll and Pete Carroll's staff

857
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: and everything involved with the Raiders last year, except for

858
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: Patrick Graham.

859
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: He had a lot of nice things to say. He's like, yeah,

860
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: that was pretty telling together an average defense with way

861
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: below average challenge.

862
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 2: Because when he talked about some of the other coaches

863
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: and coordinators and things that was not in the most

864
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: glowing of reviews. But he was complete one eighty when

865
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: it was talking about Patrick grampt he you know, he

866
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: used that like he takes lemons and makes lemonade. Example.

867
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Speaker 3: I mean he definitely does. Now there is a I'm

868
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: not giving Graham a hard time. I trust him to

869
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: do it. But it's different. I don't want to say

870
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: it's easier or harder to take B minus talent and

871
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: making an A plus offense because you still, I mean

872
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: the opponents are hard. I mean, like you when you

873
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: play the playoff. I mean the goal isn't an average defense.

874
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: We've seen that he can get an average defense out

875
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Speaker 3: of terrible guys. You would think that translates to will

876
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: give me better guys and I'll have a great defense,

877
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: but it doesn't always not always.

878
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: There are some coaches and teachers and walks of life

879
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: that specialize in getting something out of the bottom of

880
00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: the barrel.

881
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. And then a lot of dudes like you

882
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: can take this terrible program and get him to five

883
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: hundred and boy would.

884
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: Kill for that exactly right right. And then there's like

885
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: Phil Jackson, who like, if you PLoP him down with

886
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: Jordan and Pippin and Rodman, he's gonna win you a

887
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: bunch of championship tons. Yeah. T mac tweets us a

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00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: couple more here to close this thing down. T mac

889
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: tweets us and says to the boys in the studio,

890
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: good afternoon. Caleb Banks, the Oregon safety Fennemen, and any

891
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: of the big three wide receivers or Boston if you're

892
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: interested in him, are available at twenty one. Would you

893
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: say any of those are a can't trade away from

894
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: pick if somebody tried to make you an.

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00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 3: Offer sort of? Oh yeah, those are all targets for me, yes,

896
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: like those are probably my six favorite targets that makes sense,

897
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: you know here right Like, I'm gonna put downs on

898
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 3: there that aren't.

899
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: And I think Banks might be getting to be a

900
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: little bit of a pipe dream but not. But at

901
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: this point I still think it's it's fair.

902
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: I do think some of these tackles that have been

903
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: mocked behind the twenty first pick are going to go

904
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: into top twenty, you know, like Freeling, you know, guys

905
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: like that. He's gonna rock it up wards, which will

906
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: help this conversation. And frankly, I'm going to include Boston.

907
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: So that's four wide outs of safety and a detackle.

908
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: I would bet today that one of them's there, Yes,

909
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: and I would probably bet there's two.

910
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: Two.

911
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 3: Mean, just the nature all the edge rushers and tackles

912
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 3: that are going to go and Mendoza and love and

913
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: downs and styles and you get the twenty pretty quick.

914
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: Of those six, would you trade your twenty first pick

915
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: for all of them? For how many of them?

916
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: I definitely would for the Ohio State.

917
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: Receiver, yes, and Cayle. I think I definitely would for

918
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: Caleb Banks because I don't think he's going to be

919
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 2: there at twenty one.

920
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. The only problem is I always think, like, what

921
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: kind of bind do you put Omar in? If you

922
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 3: were to do that today, sure he might be like,

923
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: you screwed up.

924
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: All my mind exactly. You just pulled the jan apiece.

925
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 3: Weeks building this master plan for the off season. And

926
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: I like Banks too, Matt and West, but you just

927
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: totally screwed it all up. And I gotta go totally

928
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: back to the drawing board now to find my receiver

929
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: and whatever. But that doesn't mean I'll do it, you

930
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: know what I mean? He still might be the tenth

931
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 3: guy on your board and you get him at twenty one.

932
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. T Mac also adds, do

933
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: you think Drew Aller pushed his stock up to a

934
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: day two pick? I do not, but some people might not.

935
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: For me.

936
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Speaker 2: Not for me.

937
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 3: No way am I using a third on him. From

938
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Speaker 3: what I know about him.

939
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: You know, I almost never say stuff like this, so

940
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: when I say it, I mean it. I don't have

941
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson Rolodex, all right, but I got some peoples. Yeah,

942
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: and I had let's call him an anonymous scout, there's

943
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: an industry term. I had an anonymous scout tell me

944
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis that if anybody drafts Drew Aller before the

945
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: sixth round, they should be fired the next day. Wow.

946
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with that.

947
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: He's heavy footed. I like big and strong arm and

948
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: some of that stuff Bill Walsh thing. Yeah, he's heavy footed.

949
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: And that's a McCarthy thing too from the ground off right. So, I,

950
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: especially for the Steelers standpoint, I think that ship has sailed.

951
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: I've said all along. I mean that guy's got to

952
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: be an athlete. Whoever that next guy is, he needs

953
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: to be an athlete. Conturn know if he's over the

954
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 3: Mendoza line on.

955
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 2: That, you know, couldncur last one from from Dave. Did

956
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 2: the Steelers miss an opportunity to trade Alex high Smith

957
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: or Nick Herbig maybe for a guy like Tovandre Sweat. No, No,

958
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No, I don't think so.

959
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: He Sweat would be a very nice addition. He had

960
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: a lot of off the field issues. Not bad person,

961
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 3: but he got to be three or seventy five, three

962
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy pounds by eating a lot did not

963
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: work out enough, and that could easily report. I would

964
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Speaker 3: not have given up e the one of those guys. Yeah,

965
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 3: for him.

966
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: I think there's a scenario argument you could make for

967
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 2: trading one of those big three edge rushers.

968
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Speaker 3: Yes, but I don't think ship didn't sail.

969
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: That ship didn't sail. No, no, And I think if

970
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: I was doing that, I'd be looking to add somebody

971
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: explosive on the offense, a guarantee explosive playmaker on the

972
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Speaker 2: offensive side of the football.

973
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Speaker 3: And you could have convinced me to trade for sweat,

974
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 3: but I think they wanted the edge guy in return.

975
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: You know, there's a reason that was a one for

976
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: one swap.

977
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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally good stuff today, some good questions, some good tweets.

978
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Speaker 2: Had fun firing up the mock draft simulators. Will continue

979
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Speaker 2: to do that all throughout the offseason, obviously, But tomorrow,

980
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: let's do our final free agency primer. Okay, who the

981
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: Steelers could be losing, Who's out there that you'd be

982
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: interested in, Who we want to keep, who's going to go,

983
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: who we want to bring in? All that kind of

984
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: set in the scene as we are just a few

985
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: days away from the cool the race starting in this

986
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six free agency window. But that will do

987
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Speaker 2: it for us for today. Big thanks to Justin Miller

988
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: on the ones and twos, mister TV Tyler V on

989
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 2: the video side of producing for Matt Williams, and I'm

990
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 2: Wesheuler take care everybody. We will talk to you tomorrow.

991
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992
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993
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