WEBVTT - Bengals Podcast: Rule The World 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.400 Hi, Gain everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:15.360 the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Everybody Wants to the World addition, 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:17.800 as the Bengals look to extend their five game winning 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.560 streak by beating the goat, seven times Super Bowl champion, 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.079 five time Super Bowl MVP, and the NFL's all time 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:29.280 leader in passing yards and touchdowns, Tom Brady coming up, 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.440 I'll talk to another Goat when it comes to studying 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.920 the tape and explaining the xs and ohs. 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Still, a six and seven record 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.560 gives Tampa Bay a one game lead in its division 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.320 over the Panthers and Falcons who are five and eight. 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.200 For more on the Bengals in the Bucks, I turned 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.280 to one of the best in the business at watching 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:35.640 the tape and sharing his insights. It is always a 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:37.919 treat to talk football with my friend Greg co Sell 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.400 from NFL Films and the NFL Matchup show on ESPN. 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.560 You did a segment on the Bengals defense last week, Greg, 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.760 where you talked about them as being too often overlooked. 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.320 What stands out to you when you watch this group, 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.680 I would say a couple of things. Dan number one, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.280 I think they have better players than people give them 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.519 credit for. They may not have that one player. You 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.520 know what we think of with defenses. We think of 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.160 guys who get a ton of sacks. Now. I know 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.120 Hendrickson had I think around fourteen or fifteen sacks a 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.480 year ago, although he's not really talked about as a 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.160 sacker the way some others are, so he's not really 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:17.720 mentioned that way. And more often than not, people talk 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.520 about corners. If you have a great corner and they 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.920 don't have that one guy that you say, wow, that 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:27.360 guy is a great corner. Usually, stacked linebackers are not 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:33.000 discussed very much. When people talk about defenses, they probably 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:34.760 should be talked about a little more because I think 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.360 they're really valuable. And I think that the Bengals have 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:42.280 one really good one in Logan Wilson, and another in Pratt, 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.400 who I think is a really solid player. You know, 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:50.360 I think you're dealing with two guys who are really good. Now, obviously, 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:52.800 when they go dying, which they do go dying, Pratt 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.280 comes off the field. Wilson never comes off the field, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.800 and they you know, just like every team, they have 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.840 different personnel packages based on nickle and dime. But I 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.480 think someone like Sam Hubbard again, another guy who's not 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:08.000 going to have fifteen sacks, but on this team and 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.680 the way in which he's deployed, I think Sam Hubbard 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.520 is a really really good football player. And of course 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.560 we know about Reader inside. I mean, you know, there's 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.880 certain guys who are just really good players, who play 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.760 roles that are important roles on teams that just may 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.880 not put up stats and numbers that people take note of, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.040 but they're really good players. And I think lou and 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.360 Aramo does not get enough credit either, because I think 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.600 they do a really good job week to week being 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.800 somewhat opponent specific in how they approach it, and I 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.520 think that doesn't get talked about enough either. LOUI has 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.680 done a pretty remarkable job of confusing some great quarterbacks 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.520 like Patrick Mahomes. Are there any unique concepts or anything 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.719 he is becoming known for as a defensive coordinator. You 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:53.400 just hit it right on the head, I think, and 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.440 the Mahomes one is obviously the one that's most visible. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.159 But I think he does that pretty much every week 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.280 in different ways. So it's not Hey, there's one thing 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.640 that you know he's going to do Dan that you say, hey, 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.200 that's a lou An Aramos thing. But I think he 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:11.640 has a really good feel for opposing offenses, what their 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.880 strengths are, how to get them into perhaps a limitation, 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.039 and I think he does that really well on a 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.599 week to week basis. I want to get back to 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.560 DJ Reader for a second, because when he's been healthy 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:26.000 this year, opponents have not been able to run on Cincinnati. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:30.000 It's been black and white statistically. What does DJ Reader 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.440 do for this group? As you know, you've been doing 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.839 this a long time College football, NFL, stopping the run 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.800 is not a sexy subject. People always think it's something 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.840 wow they must be doing something amazing normally stopping the run, 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.919 and Reader is really good at This has to do 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.760 with your first level defenders, you know, depending on the 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.680 nature of your defense. One gap, two gap, there's always 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.440 some of both, depending on whatever defense you play. But 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.919 what readers really good at is controlling and displacing offensive 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.559 lineman and that's essential in stopping the run. So again, 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.159 it's not a sexy topic where you think, man, there's 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:07.840 a great pass for right way. He just flew by 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.320 that guy, you know, but he's really good at that. 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.400 And when your interior d lineman can do that kind 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.880 of thing, it really allows your linebackers to play faster 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.440 because now they don't have to wait and see what's happening. 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.440 They can immediately react. And I think you're seeing that 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.040 with Wilson. While he often gets big tackle totals, and 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.560 but Reader is just really, really good at controlling and 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:35.800 displacing offensive lineman. For chatting with Greg Cosell from the 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:39.960 NFL Matchup show on ESPN, Let's Turn to Offense. You 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.599 sent me your notes about Joe Burrow prior to the 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.039 twenty twenty draft, and you had him graded as the 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.440 number one quarterback in that class, and it's turned out 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.640 to be a good class. Is there anything about Burrow 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.599 in year three that's even better than you thought it 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.239 would be at this stage of his career. The short 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.040 answer is no. But I think he's improved in certain 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.000 areas that he's been forced to improve in because of 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.040 the nature of the team. I think this year he's 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:09.560 gotten much better in understanding how to camouflage and compensate 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.920 for some old line deficiencies. And I think great quarterbacks 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.400 do that. You know, it's always easy to say when 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.200 a quarterback gets sacked a lot that they have a 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.480 bad old line, and you know, and we're not gonna 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.160 lie here. We're not going to say that the Bengals 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.240 have a great old line or that they had one 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.280 a year ago. But I think Burrow has developed sort 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:30.200 of a more intuitive feel for how to deal with that, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:34.440 whether it's getting the ball out, whether it's being better 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.480 with his calculated movement. Because Burrow is a sneaky athlete. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.240 And when I say sneak, I don't mean you know, 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.480 he's necessarily going to run for a hundred yards, although 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.400 we certainly can run for first downs if demanded. But 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.680 just his ability to navigate the pocket, his ability to 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.480 climb the pocket and find space, you know, a more 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.320 quiet spot to deliver the ball. And he's such a 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.360 quiet player. That's a word that I heard from a 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.440 quarterback coach who was a head coach of the league 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.520 for a number of years, who I know well, and 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.840 when he told me that years ago, it just really 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.800 struck me. About quarterbacks, some seem even really good ones 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.320 at times, can see very active in their movement. Burrow 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.840 looks quiet in his movement, even when he's forced to move. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:19.120 It never looks hurried or frenetic. It looks quiet. And 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.960 I think he's gotten such a better feel for that 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.920 as he's had to, because you know, look, let's be realistic. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.720 This has not been a great old line over the 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.320 last couple of years, although I do think it's improved 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.800 as this year has progressed, because you would know this 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.800 better than I. But I think those five have played 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.520 the pretty large majority of the snaps this year, have 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.400 they not? They have started every game together. Yeah, so, 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.679 I mean, you know, I think there has been improvement. 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.400 There's always some snaps where you know, they just certain 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.320 guys get beaten. That happens, But I think you know, 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.400 I think Burrow has developed a really good feel for that, 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.679 and I think that's an improvement that he had to have, 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.320 And because he's such a smart player and an intuitive player, 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:03.600 he's developed that. Early this year opponents were playing the 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.840 Bengals pretty much the same way, a lot of two 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.200 deep zones trying to take the deep ball away from 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.200 Joe Burrow. Since week two they're averaging more than twenty 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.640 seven points a game. What adjustments have they made to 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.559 attack that better? In your opinion? You know, when teams 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.920 look to take away deep you have to think of 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.160 it this way. If you're going to play single high 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.640 number one, a couple of things happen. One is you 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:31.040 give up seams number two. There's outside the numbers throws 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.520 that will always be there because a single high safety 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.640 is never going to get to make a play outside 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:41.880 the numbers on a vertical type route. So and I 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.360 think Burrow is an absolute master, maybe the best in 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.559 the league at attacking one on ones outside the numbers. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.000 When he sees that, he throws it. Now, I don't know, 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.000 and you may know this, I don't know how many 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:54.960 of those are you know, checks at the line of scrimmage. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.680 Or play calls. That's hard for me to know watching tape, 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.560 but I do know that when he sees one on 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.600 ones outside the numbers with Higgins or Chase, he throws it. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.880 And obviously Higgins a Chase are very very good. Even 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.839 with split safety, depending on what you do with your 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.280 combination route concepts, DAN, you can still throw one on 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.800 one outside the numbers because if you can eat up 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.400 the safety to that side with a route concept or 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.840 combination route, you still get one on one outside the numbers. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.800 But if you're gonna play split safety, there's one less 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.040 defender underneath. Okay, it's a numbers game. Football is a 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.520 numbers game. I learned that a long time ago from 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.160 a veteran coach. So now you have if you're gonna 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:40.439 rush for play split safety, you only have three underneath defenders, 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.480 and that then becomes easier to attack underneath. And I 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.559 think they do a really really good job. They're among 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.880 the best in the league with what we call high 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:54.800 low concepts. They work between the numbers exceptionally well. So 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.760 they eat up and underneath defender with a low route, 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.040 whether it's the tight end, it could be the back, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.959 and then they run usually an inbreaking route behind that, 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.480 and if you're in split safety, you can't really play 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.080 that route, you know, you have to play a top 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.559 down so the ball will be caught. And they do 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.040 that with any number of receivers. They do it with Higgins. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:18.840 I saw them do it a few weeks ago before 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.640 it got hurt with Joe Mixon. I forget who the 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:24.000 opponent was. Out of an empty set, which, by the way, 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.680 I was going to ask you about this since the 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.320 Steelers game when they had twenty empty sets, they've not 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.080 been an empty very much, and I've been kind of 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.520 surprised by that. Do you know have an answer for that, 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:38.480 Brady Chance, not so much, except to say that they've 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.680 had so much success running out of the shotgun now. 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.800 I mean, that's really become the key to the running 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.960 game that I think they like having, you know, that 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.840 threat to present to the defense, and it's cut down 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.079 in the number of times that Joe's gone empty. That's 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.240 a great point, because I think they knew that they 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.840 had to become more sustaining with their run game, you know, 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.360 because no matter how good burrowing the receivers are, it's 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.520 hard to be one dimensional every week and really win 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.440 when you start playing good defenses. And that's a great point. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.400 You're probably right because they need to develop some kind 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.760 of sustainability with the run game, and they've been doing 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.400 that out of the shotguns, so obviously that demands a 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:19.720 back in the backfield. So they face the Buccaneers this week. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.200 Tampa Bay is twenty eighth in the league and scoring, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.880 and it's not because Tom Brady is forty five years old. 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:29.040 What problems are the Bucks having on offense? Well, they 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:30.920 have a lot. I mean, and I say that honestly. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.000 You know, you know everything I say is based on tape. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.839 You know, it's never anything more than that. This is 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.040 a team with pretty significant offensive problems. Number One, they 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.400 can't run the ball. Their first down run game is 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.160 among the worst in the league. This is a team 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:49.559 that has faced, on offense, the second most third downs 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.360 of any team in the league. They face fifteen third 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.520 downs per game. Dan that you don't want to be 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.080 in that situation. That's too many third downs on a 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:02.400 weekly basis, because defense is normally normally have the tactical 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:06.040 advantage when you're in third down unless you're in third, one, third, 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:07.720 and two, and that's not the case with the Bucks, 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:12.040 and quite honestly, Tom Brady has not played particularly well. 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.200 He's very conscious of pressure. The old line has obviously 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.240 been an ongoing issue. He's a pocket quarterback. He's not 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.000 going to move, so he's become very aware of it, 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.199 very conscious of it. He falls away from a lot 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.920 of throws. He's not a guy that's going to take sacks, 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.920 so he gets rid of the ball for incompletions, you know, 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.600 just because he won't get sacked. So this is an 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.920 offense that has multiple issues right now. The only thing 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.000 you can say, and it could happen any given week, 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.000 is they do have talented, skilled players. So could any 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:42.960 given week be the week that they hit some big 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.640 play touchdowns. It could. I mean, for your guy's sake, 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.000 you hope it's not this week. But for the most part, 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.439 when you watch that offense, it's they've got a number 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.480 of issues that they're really struggling to work through. Defensively, 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.520 on the other hand, they played pretty well. I think 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.560 nine of the thirteen opponents have scored twenty or less 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.800 in regulation. What do you think of the Bucks defense 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.400 and who stands out on that side of the ball. Yeah, 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.840 they've had some issues in the secondary this year with injury, 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.600 so that's you know again, I don't know what the 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.240 situation is with you guys, with Higgins and Boyd obviously, 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.480 but I mean if if, if everybody's healthy, it's a 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.800 little bit of an issue for the Bucks because their 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.880 secondaries had some concerns. I mean, this past week they 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.880 started Delaney as their slot corner, which and I know 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.400 they don't want to do that, so I don't know 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.400 if he's going to be the guy again. I'm pretty 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.800 sure Dean got benched at halftime of the last game 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:37.440 because he did not play in the second half, and 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.200 I don't believe he was hurt. He was the one 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.080 who gave up the stutter go to Ayuk on the 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.560 final play of the first half for the forty nine ers, 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.080 so I think he was benched. And he's been up 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.720 and down this year. Davis is their best corner, their 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.200 most consistent corner. You know, their pass rush can be 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.640 really good. Todd Bowles is a master of blitz concepts 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.680 and he can hurt you any given week a blitz 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:02.960 that you haven't quite seen. And they'll be working on 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.560 that this week because Burrows incredibly smart, so Todd Bowles 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.240 will want to show something that Joe has not seen 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.160 on film. Now, Joe may be smart enough to recognize, hey, 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.200 that's a different look. This guy's in a spot I 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.840 haven't seen him before. That's an alert. We may you know, 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.640 Joe's smart enough to know that, or he may not 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:20.600 know that. You never know. You know, even the great 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:24.240 ones at times get get confused by something they haven't seen. 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.480 But this defense is you know, last week they couldn't 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.600 stop the run. They couldn't stop the run at all 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:34.200 with the forty nine ers. So it's defensively they've also 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.640 been really erratic as well. It's just been things have 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.120 not worked for them this year really on either side 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.320 of the ball with any kind of consistency. So the 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.640 Bengals are looking for when number six in a row. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.040 What are a few keys in your mind to Sunday's 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.160 game anytime you're talking about the Bengals. Even though we 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.760 talked about the run game, we know that the pass 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.560 game kind of drives it more often than not. You know, 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.000 Joe doesn't have to throw for three eighty for them 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.680 to win. But but they're a passing football. I mean, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.800 even last week with everyone in the game with Taylor 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.320 in the game, they both hit some big plays. Um, 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.080 you know, they're they're a throwing football team. They're gonna 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.320 have to make plays in the pass game, and I 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.880 think they can against this team. Now, the key is 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:19.560 protection because again the Bucks can rush the quarterback and 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.880 Bowls is a blitz defensive coach, so there is going 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.360 to be pressure concepts that they have to deal with. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.440 So I think throwing the ball, they will have to 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.160 throw it and they will have to make some big 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:33.400 plays there. And then defensively, And I want to mention 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.400 one guy because I loved his tape coming out, But 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.520 I think Cam Taylor BRIT's going to be a really 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:42.000 good player. He's competitive, he's feisty, he's tough, he brings 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.600 a swagger to your defense. You know, obviously a woozy 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.320 you didn't want to lose him, but you know, Taylor 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.200 brit is a really good player and he's going to 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.360 be a starter there for quite some time. Bengals fans 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.840 love it when I have you as a guest. I 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.520 always appreciate your time. Look forward to seeing you at 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.480 the comb in Indianapolis. And thanks so much for joining 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:06.639 us today. Thanks Dan, really appreciate it anytime. The Bengals 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.040 Booth podcast is brought to you by Kettering Health, the 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:12.160 official healthcare provider of the Bengals. With more than one 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.960 hundred twenty care facilities and fifteen hundred care providers, Kettering 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.119 Health is committed to guiding you to your best health. 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.919 Visit Kettering health dot org to learn more. A major 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.640 focus this week is the first and possibly only head 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.560 to head meeting between twenty seven year old Joe Burrow 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.399 and forty five year old Tom Brady. Brady has a 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.680 podcast that he does with veteran broadcaster Jim Gray called 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.040 Let's Go, and last year, just before the Super Bowl, 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.680 they had Joe Burrow on as a guest. I think 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:45.639 Joe's got some tools that I didn't quite have when 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.240 I was his age. So super impressed by how he's 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.960 kind of coming to the league. In went to Cincinnati, 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.000 which has been a tough place to play over the years, 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.600 and two years into his career after a really tough 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.639 injury last year, show a lot of mental and physical 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:04.040 tough it's coming back and have an incredible season. So um, 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.280 you know, I always love watching quarterbacks, and certainly young 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.960 quarterbacks because I feel like, you know, there's certain ways 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.119 to play the game, and to play the game at 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.960 a high level requires a huge commitment. I think Joe, 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.080 even from when I saw him at LSU, you know, 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.000 he makes that commitment. So it's a it's really a 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.439 great thing for me to see as as you know, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.240 somebody who's played this game for a long time, so 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.919 really happy for Joe and his team. Joe, when you 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:33.639 hear those words from Tom, your reaction is, well, I 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:35.879 don't know. I don't know if I can be in 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.199 the conversation with this guy yet, but you know, I'm 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.840 gonna work really hard to try, and I think we're 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.040 up to a great start. Tom Brady has been an 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:47.280 NFL quarterback since Joe Burrow was four years old. Here's 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.800 the Bengals QB on TB twelve. You gets the ball 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.440 really fast. You know, he understands what he's looking at. Um. 0:18:55.560 --> 0:19:00.520 I think he epitomizes toughness at the quarterback position. He's 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.560 a great leader. I mean, he's the greatest of all 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.880 time for a reason. He's told package it's our fourteenth 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.280 game of the season. You know, it's obviously, you know, 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:12.680 the greatest quarterback evers on the other side. But you know, 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:14.400 we got a job to do too, and our job 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.720 is gonna win. Get to ten and four and move on. 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:21.960 And what does he think about the inevitable Brady Burrow comparisons? 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.040 It is what it is. You don't really pay attention 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.080 to it. He's Tom and I'm Joe. The Bengals Booth 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.840 Podcast is presented by all to Fiber future proof fiber 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:35.640 Internet capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds designed to take 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.840 your home, business, and community to a new level. Elevate 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.520 your connection with all too Fiber. Last year, in his 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.720 twenty third NFL season, Tom Brady led the NFL in 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.920 passing yards and touchdown passes. But this year, behind a 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.919 makeshift offensive line, Brady and the Bucks have struggled to score. 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:59.080 They've only topped twenty two points once all year. Will 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:02.160 the Bengals defense let's add to the Bucks offensive woes. 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.960 I caught up with safety Von Bell this week. Vin, 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.160 you have played at a very high level for six 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.280 plus years now in the NFL, but this year you've 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.520 got four interceptions. You're tied for fourth on the league 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.320 in that category. You're third on the Bengals and tackles 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.600 right behind the linebackers. Do you feel like you're playing 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.399 the best you've ever played in the NFL? I think so? 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.560 What that it comes with this time in the league. 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:28.679 You know, I'm really just growing as a young athlete 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:30.440 in this league and just really just trying to progress 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.000 year in the year out. So I think I'm hating 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.800 the right direction. Let's go back to the interceptions for 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.960 a second. Four this year. You've had three previously including 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:42.960 the playoffs, but going back to your Ohio State days, 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.879 you had nine in three years. Are the four interceptions 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.919