1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Hi, Gain everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Everybody Wants to the World addition, 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: as the Bengals look to extend their five game winning 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: streak by beating the goat, seven times Super Bowl champion, 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: five time Super Bowl MVP, and the NFL's all time 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: leader in passing yards and touchdowns, Tom Brady coming up, 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: I'll talk to another Goat when it comes to studying 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: the tape and explaining the xs and ohs. Greg co 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: Sell from NFL Films and ESPN, I'll chat to Von 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: Bell about facing Tom Brady, and we'll hear what Brady 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: had to say about Joe Burrow when the Bengals quarterback 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: was on his podcast. And finally, in this week's Know 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: the Faux segment, we'll hear from Scott Smith, who covers 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: the Bucks for Fox thirteen in Tampa. The Bengals Booth 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Podcast is brought to you by pay Corps. More than 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: twenty nine thousand customers trust paycres to help them recruit, 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: pay engage, and retain employees. 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After an O 35 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: and two start, the Bengals have won nine out of 36 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: eleven After a two and o start, the Buccaneers have 37 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: lost seven of eleven. Still, a six and seven record 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: gives Tampa Bay a one game lead in its division 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: over the Panthers and Falcons who are five and eight. 40 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: For more on the Bengals in the Bucks, I turned 41 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: to one of the best in the business at watching 42 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: the tape and sharing his insights. It is always a 43 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: treat to talk football with my friend Greg co Sell 44 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: from NFL Films and the NFL Matchup show on ESPN. 45 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: You did a segment on the Bengals defense last week, Greg, 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: where you talked about them as being too often overlooked. 47 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: What stands out to you when you watch this group, 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: I would say a couple of things. Dan number one, 49 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: I think they have better players than people give them 50 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: credit for. They may not have that one player. You 51 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: know what we think of with defenses. We think of 52 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: guys who get a ton of sacks. Now. I know 53 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: Hendrickson had I think around fourteen or fifteen sacks a 54 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: year ago, although he's not really talked about as a 55 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: sacker the way some others are, so he's not really 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: mentioned that way. And more often than not, people talk 57 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: about corners. If you have a great corner and they 58 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: don't have that one guy that you say, wow, that 59 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: guy is a great corner. Usually, stacked linebackers are not 60 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: discussed very much. When people talk about defenses, they probably 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: should be talked about a little more because I think 62 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: they're really valuable. And I think that the Bengals have 63 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: one really good one in Logan Wilson, and another in Pratt, 64 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: who I think is a really solid player. You know, 65 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: I think you're dealing with two guys who are really good. Now, obviously, 66 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: when they go dying, which they do go dying, Pratt 67 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: comes off the field. Wilson never comes off the field, 68 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: and they you know, just like every team, they have 69 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: different personnel packages based on nickle and dime. But I 70 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: think someone like Sam Hubbard again, another guy who's not 71 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: going to have fifteen sacks, but on this team and 72 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: the way in which he's deployed, I think Sam Hubbard 73 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: is a really really good football player. And of course 74 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: we know about Reader inside. I mean, you know, there's 75 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: certain guys who are just really good players, who play 76 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: roles that are important roles on teams that just may 77 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: not put up stats and numbers that people take note of, 78 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: but they're really good players. And I think lou and 79 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Aramo does not get enough credit either, because I think 80 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: they do a really good job week to week being 81 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: somewhat opponent specific in how they approach it, and I 82 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: think that doesn't get talked about enough either. LOUI has 83 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: done a pretty remarkable job of confusing some great quarterbacks 84 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes. Are there any unique concepts or anything 85 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: he is becoming known for as a defensive coordinator. You 86 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: just hit it right on the head, I think, and 87 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: the Mahomes one is obviously the one that's most visible. 88 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: But I think he does that pretty much every week 89 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: in different ways. So it's not Hey, there's one thing 90 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: that you know he's going to do Dan that you say, hey, 91 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: that's a lou An Aramos thing. But I think he 92 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: has a really good feel for opposing offenses, what their 93 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: strengths are, how to get them into perhaps a limitation, 94 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: and I think he does that really well on a 95 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: week to week basis. I want to get back to 96 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: DJ Reader for a second, because when he's been healthy 97 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: this year, opponents have not been able to run on Cincinnati. 98 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: It's been black and white statistically. What does DJ Reader 99 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: do for this group? As you know, you've been doing 100 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: this a long time College football, NFL, stopping the run 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: is not a sexy subject. People always think it's something 102 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: wow they must be doing something amazing normally stopping the run, 103 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: and Reader is really good at This has to do 104 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: with your first level defenders, you know, depending on the 105 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: nature of your defense. One gap, two gap, there's always 106 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: some of both, depending on whatever defense you play. But 107 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: what readers really good at is controlling and displacing offensive 108 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 1: lineman and that's essential in stopping the run. So again, 109 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: it's not a sexy topic where you think, man, there's 110 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: a great pass for right way. He just flew by 111 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: that guy, you know, but he's really good at that. 112 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: And when your interior d lineman can do that kind 113 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: of thing, it really allows your linebackers to play faster 114 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: because now they don't have to wait and see what's happening. 115 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: They can immediately react. And I think you're seeing that 116 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: with Wilson. While he often gets big tackle totals, and 117 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: but Reader is just really, really good at controlling and 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: displacing offensive lineman. For chatting with Greg Cosell from the 119 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: NFL Matchup show on ESPN, Let's Turn to Offense. You 120 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: sent me your notes about Joe Burrow prior to the 121 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: twenty twenty draft, and you had him graded as the 122 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: number one quarterback in that class, and it's turned out 123 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: to be a good class. Is there anything about Burrow 124 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: in year three that's even better than you thought it 125 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 1: would be at this stage of his career. The short 126 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: answer is no. But I think he's improved in certain 127 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: areas that he's been forced to improve in because of 128 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: the nature of the team. I think this year he's 129 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: gotten much better in understanding how to camouflage and compensate 130 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: for some old line deficiencies. And I think great quarterbacks 131 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: do that. You know, it's always easy to say when 132 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback gets sacked a lot that they have a 133 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: bad old line, and you know, and we're not gonna 134 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: lie here. We're not going to say that the Bengals 135 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: have a great old line or that they had one 136 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: a year ago. But I think Burrow has developed sort 137 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: of a more intuitive feel for how to deal with that, 138 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: whether it's getting the ball out, whether it's being better 139 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: with his calculated movement. Because Burrow is a sneaky athlete. 140 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: And when I say sneak, I don't mean you know, 141 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: he's necessarily going to run for a hundred yards, although 142 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: we certainly can run for first downs if demanded. But 143 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: just his ability to navigate the pocket, his ability to 144 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: climb the pocket and find space, you know, a more 145 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: quiet spot to deliver the ball. And he's such a 146 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: quiet player. That's a word that I heard from a 147 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: quarterback coach who was a head coach of the league 148 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: for a number of years, who I know well, and 149 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: when he told me that years ago, it just really 150 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: struck me. About quarterbacks, some seem even really good ones 151 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: at times, can see very active in their movement. Burrow 152 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: looks quiet in his movement, even when he's forced to move. 153 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: It never looks hurried or frenetic. It looks quiet. And 154 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: I think he's gotten such a better feel for that 155 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: as he's had to, because you know, look, let's be realistic. 156 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: This has not been a great old line over the 157 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: last couple of years, although I do think it's improved 158 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: as this year has progressed, because you would know this 159 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: better than I. But I think those five have played 160 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: the pretty large majority of the snaps this year, have 161 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: they not? They have started every game together. Yeah, so, 162 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think there has been improvement. 163 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: There's always some snaps where you know, they just certain 164 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: guys get beaten. That happens, But I think you know, 165 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: I think Burrow has developed a really good feel for that, 166 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: and I think that's an improvement that he had to have, 167 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: And because he's such a smart player and an intuitive player, 168 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: he's developed that. Early this year opponents were playing the 169 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: Bengals pretty much the same way, a lot of two 170 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: deep zones trying to take the deep ball away from 171 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Since week two they're averaging more than twenty 172 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: seven points a game. What adjustments have they made to 173 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: attack that better? In your opinion? You know, when teams 174 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: look to take away deep you have to think of 175 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: it this way. If you're going to play single high 176 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: number one, a couple of things happen. One is you 177 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: give up seams number two. There's outside the numbers throws 178 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: that will always be there because a single high safety 179 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: is never going to get to make a play outside 180 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: the numbers on a vertical type route. So and I 181 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: think Burrow is an absolute master, maybe the best in 182 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: the league at attacking one on ones outside the numbers. 183 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: When he sees that, he throws it. Now, I don't know, 184 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: and you may know this, I don't know how many 185 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: of those are you know, checks at the line of scrimmage. 186 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: Or play calls. That's hard for me to know watching tape, 187 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: but I do know that when he sees one on 188 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: ones outside the numbers with Higgins or Chase, he throws it. 189 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: And obviously Higgins a Chase are very very good. Even 190 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: with split safety, depending on what you do with your 191 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: combination route concepts, DAN, you can still throw one on 192 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: one outside the numbers because if you can eat up 193 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: the safety to that side with a route concept or 194 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: combination route, you still get one on one outside the numbers. 195 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna play split safety, there's one less 196 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: defender underneath. Okay, it's a numbers game. Football is a 197 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: numbers game. I learned that a long time ago from 198 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: a veteran coach. So now you have if you're gonna 199 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: rush for play split safety, you only have three underneath defenders, 200 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: and that then becomes easier to attack underneath. And I 201 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: think they do a really really good job. They're among 202 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: the best in the league with what we call high 203 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: low concepts. They work between the numbers exceptionally well. So 204 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: they eat up and underneath defender with a low route, 205 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: whether it's the tight end, it could be the back, 206 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: and then they run usually an inbreaking route behind that, 207 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: and if you're in split safety, you can't really play 208 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: that route, you know, you have to play a top 209 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: down so the ball will be caught. And they do 210 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: that with any number of receivers. They do it with Higgins. 211 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: I saw them do it a few weeks ago before 212 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: it got hurt with Joe Mixon. I forget who the 213 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: opponent was. Out of an empty set, which, by the way, 214 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about this since the 215 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: Steelers game when they had twenty empty sets, they've not 216 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: been an empty very much, and I've been kind of 217 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: surprised by that. Do you know have an answer for that, 218 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: Brady Chance, not so much, except to say that they've 219 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: had so much success running out of the shotgun now. 220 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's really become the key to the running 221 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: game that I think they like having, you know, that 222 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: threat to present to the defense, and it's cut down 223 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: in the number of times that Joe's gone empty. That's 224 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: a great point, because I think they knew that they 225 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: had to become more sustaining with their run game, you know, 226 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: because no matter how good burrowing the receivers are, it's 227 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: hard to be one dimensional every week and really win 228 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: when you start playing good defenses. And that's a great point. 229 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: You're probably right because they need to develop some kind 230 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: of sustainability with the run game, and they've been doing 231 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: that out of the shotguns, so obviously that demands a 232 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: back in the backfield. So they face the Buccaneers this week. 233 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is twenty eighth in the league and scoring, 234 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: and it's not because Tom Brady is forty five years old. 235 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: What problems are the Bucks having on offense? Well, they 236 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: have a lot. I mean, and I say that honestly. 237 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, you know everything I say is based on tape. 238 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: You know, it's never anything more than that. This is 239 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: a team with pretty significant offensive problems. Number One, they 240 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: can't run the ball. Their first down run game is 241 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: among the worst in the league. This is a team 242 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: that has faced, on offense, the second most third downs 243 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: of any team in the league. They face fifteen third 244 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: downs per game. Dan that you don't want to be 245 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: in that situation. That's too many third downs on a 246 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: weekly basis, because defense is normally normally have the tactical 247 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: advantage when you're in third down unless you're in third, one, third, 248 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: and two, and that's not the case with the Bucks, 249 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: and quite honestly, Tom Brady has not played particularly well. 250 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: He's very conscious of pressure. The old line has obviously 251 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: been an ongoing issue. He's a pocket quarterback. He's not 252 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: going to move, so he's become very aware of it, 253 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: very conscious of it. He falls away from a lot 254 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: of throws. He's not a guy that's going to take sacks, 255 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: so he gets rid of the ball for incompletions, you know, 256 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: just because he won't get sacked. So this is an 257 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: offense that has multiple issues right now. The only thing 258 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: you can say, and it could happen any given week, 259 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: is they do have talented, skilled players. So could any 260 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: given week be the week that they hit some big 261 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: play touchdowns. It could. I mean, for your guy's sake, 262 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: you hope it's not this week. But for the most part, 263 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: when you watch that offense, it's they've got a number 264 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: of issues that they're really struggling to work through. Defensively, 265 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: on the other hand, they played pretty well. I think 266 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: nine of the thirteen opponents have scored twenty or less 267 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: in regulation. What do you think of the Bucks defense 268 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: and who stands out on that side of the ball. Yeah, 269 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: they've had some issues in the secondary this year with injury, 270 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: so that's you know again, I don't know what the 271 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: situation is with you guys, with Higgins and Boyd obviously, 272 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: but I mean if if, if everybody's healthy, it's a 273 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: little bit of an issue for the Bucks because their 274 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: secondaries had some concerns. I mean, this past week they 275 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: started Delaney as their slot corner, which and I know 276 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: they don't want to do that, so I don't know 277 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: if he's going to be the guy again. I'm pretty 278 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: sure Dean got benched at halftime of the last game 279 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: because he did not play in the second half, and 280 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't believe he was hurt. He was the one 281 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: who gave up the stutter go to Ayuk on the 282 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: final play of the first half for the forty nine ers, 283 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: so I think he was benched. And he's been up 284 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: and down this year. Davis is their best corner, their 285 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: most consistent corner. You know, their pass rush can be 286 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: really good. Todd Bowles is a master of blitz concepts 287 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: and he can hurt you any given week a blitz 288 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: that you haven't quite seen. And they'll be working on 289 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: that this week because Burrows incredibly smart, so Todd Bowles 290 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: will want to show something that Joe has not seen 291 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: on film. Now, Joe may be smart enough to recognize, hey, 292 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: that's a different look. This guy's in a spot I 293 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: haven't seen him before. That's an alert. We may you know, 294 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: Joe's smart enough to know that, or he may not 295 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: know that. You never know. You know, even the great 296 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: ones at times get get confused by something they haven't seen. 297 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: But this defense is you know, last week they couldn't 298 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: stop the run. They couldn't stop the run at all 299 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers. So it's defensively they've also 300 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: been really erratic as well. It's just been things have 301 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: not worked for them this year really on either side 302 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: of the ball with any kind of consistency. So the 303 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: Bengals are looking for when number six in a row. 304 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: What are a few keys in your mind to Sunday's 305 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: game anytime you're talking about the Bengals. Even though we 306 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: talked about the run game, we know that the pass 307 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: game kind of drives it more often than not. You know, 308 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: Joe doesn't have to throw for three eighty for them 309 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: to win. But but they're a passing football. I mean, 310 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: even last week with everyone in the game with Taylor 311 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: in the game, they both hit some big plays. Um, 312 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're a throwing football team. They're gonna 313 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: have to make plays in the pass game, and I 314 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: think they can against this team. Now, the key is 315 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: protection because again the Bucks can rush the quarterback and 316 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: Bowls is a blitz defensive coach, so there is going 317 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: to be pressure concepts that they have to deal with. 318 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: So I think throwing the ball, they will have to 319 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: throw it and they will have to make some big 320 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: plays there. And then defensively, And I want to mention 321 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: one guy because I loved his tape coming out, But 322 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: I think Cam Taylor BRIT's going to be a really 323 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: good player. He's competitive, he's feisty, he's tough, he brings 324 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: a swagger to your defense. You know, obviously a woozy 325 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: you didn't want to lose him, but you know, Taylor 326 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: brit is a really good player and he's going to 327 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: be a starter there for quite some time. Bengals fans 328 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: love it when I have you as a guest. I 329 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: always appreciate your time. Look forward to seeing you at 330 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: the comb in Indianapolis. And thanks so much for joining 331 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: us today. Thanks Dan, really appreciate it anytime. The Bengals 332 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: Booth podcast is brought to you by Kettering Health, the 333 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 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I think 343 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: Joe's got some tools that I didn't quite have when 344 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: I was his age. So super impressed by how he's 345 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: kind of coming to the league. In went to Cincinnati, 346 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: which has been a tough place to play over the years, 347 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: and two years into his career after a really tough 348 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: injury last year, show a lot of mental and physical 349 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: tough it's coming back and have an incredible season. So um, 350 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, I always love watching quarterbacks, and certainly young 351 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks because I feel like, you know, there's certain ways 352 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: to play the game, and to play the game at 353 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: a high level requires a huge commitment. I think Joe, 354 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: even from when I saw him at LSU, you know, 355 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: he makes that commitment. So it's a it's really a 356 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: great thing for me to see as as you know, 357 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: somebody who's played this game for a long time, so 358 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: really happy for Joe and his team. Joe, when you 359 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: hear those words from Tom, your reaction is, well, I 360 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if I can be in 361 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: the conversation with this guy yet, but you know, I'm 362 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: gonna work really hard to try, and I think we're 363 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: up to a great start. Tom Brady has been an 364 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback since Joe Burrow was four years old. Here's 365 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: the Bengals QB on TB twelve. You gets the ball 366 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: really fast. You know, he understands what he's looking at. Um. 367 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: I think he epitomizes toughness at the quarterback position. He's 368 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: a great leader. I mean, he's the greatest of all 369 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: time for a reason. He's told package it's our fourteenth 370 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: game of the season. You know, it's obviously, you know, 371 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback evers on the other side. But you know, 372 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: we got a job to do too, and our job 373 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: is gonna win. Get to ten and four and move on. 374 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: And what does he think about the inevitable Brady Burrow comparisons? 375 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: It is what it is. You don't really pay attention 376 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: to it. He's Tom and I'm Joe. The Bengals Booth 377 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: Podcast is presented by all to Fiber future proof fiber 378 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: Internet capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds designed to take 379 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: your home, business, and community to a new level. Elevate 380 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: your connection with all too Fiber. Last year, in his 381 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: twenty third NFL season, Tom Brady led the NFL in 382 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: passing yards and touchdown passes. But this year, behind a 383 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: makeshift offensive line, Brady and the Bucks have struggled to score. 384 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: They've only topped twenty two points once all year. Will 385 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals defense let's add to the Bucks offensive woes. 386 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: I caught up with safety Von Bell this week. Vin, 387 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: you have played at a very high level for six 388 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: plus years now in the NFL, but this year you've 389 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: got four interceptions. You're tied for fourth on the league 390 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: in that category. You're third on the Bengals and tackles 391 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: right behind the linebackers. Do you feel like you're playing 392 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: the best you've ever played in the NFL? I think so? 393 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: What that it comes with this time in the league. 394 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: You know, I'm really just growing as a young athlete 395 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: in this league and just really just trying to progress 396 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: year in the year out. So I think I'm hating 397 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: the right direction. Let's go back to the interceptions for 398 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: a second. Four this year. You've had three previously including 399 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs, but going back to your Ohio State days, 400 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: you had nine in three years. Are the four interceptions 401 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: this year the product of the way you're being deployed 402 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: by Lou and Rumo. For sure. You always trying to 403 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: put the safeties in the best position to make plays. 404 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: Hats all town, You know, we always want to make plays. 405 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: Me and Jesse and I just want to be just 406 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: energy for the defensive feed off of and I always 407 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: just want to make plays with each other. So, uh yeah, 408 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: hats out there, just put me in a position to 409 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: make plays. You've played ninety nine percent of the defensive snaps. 410 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: You came out in a couple of the lopsided games, 411 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: but that's it. Of your various attributes, how high do 412 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: you rank reliability and durability very high because I think 413 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: when I first came in, just leaving my coach at 414 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: the time, I always said the best availability is availability 415 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: and just always just want to stay healthy and stay durable, 416 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: stay in the weight room, just being healthy because yeah, 417 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: put the armone out there because it's a tough war 418 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: and for those sixty minutes. But I always just want 419 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: to be just available and just ready and durable because 420 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: that's stickul to throughout the league. Were visiting the von 421 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: Bell you mentioned Jesse Bates. You two guys form one 422 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: of the best safety combos in the NFL. What do 423 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: you enjoy about working with Jesse and do the two 424 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: of you fit just extremely well together? Oh? Man, that's 425 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: my guy, always thinking. I like, I want to make plays. 426 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: We always tell each other before every game as we 427 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: go they go and just want to be the leaders, 428 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: be the generals back there commanding things, and I just 429 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: want guys to just always just play better and up 430 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: to the standard when we back there and as everybody, 431 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: just want to command everybody, to keep everybody accountable and 432 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: just really just feeding off each other and really playing 433 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: off each other. And that's what we do very well. Together. 434 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: The secondary lost one of the best cover corners in 435 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: the league when chittabe Wuja towards a se all against Cleveland. 436 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: And yet you've managed to win five games in a 437 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: row since you've known n Eelie Apple for a long 438 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: time Ohio State in New Orleans. Has he taken it 439 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: up a notch since Cheetah went down? Yes, because he's 440 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: the oldest corner now and so better in presence these 441 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: nas is a game, and you know he had to 442 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: step it up even more because we had a lot 443 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: of young guys in the room and it's really just 444 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: the culture in our room and the standard that we have, 445 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: and we always say, we're gonna need all these guys 446 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: in this room. That's what you're here for to be 447 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: in his room, in his NFL locker room, because it's 448 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: gonna be a time at a moment in place where 449 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna need somebody young guy, older guy, that doesn't matter. 450 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: All hands on the deck. That's what we always talk 451 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: and it's just really just the standing alone room. It 452 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: just hats off to the coaches and hats off to 453 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: the guys that's really taking the calum building in their job. 454 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: So that's the biggest thing, and guys really take it serious, 455 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: never to care for one another. Rookie camp Taylor brid 456 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: has moved into the starting lineup. His locker is next 457 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: to yours. What do you like about the kid for Nebraska? 458 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: He go fight and he always want a chance. He 459 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: always want an opportunity and he's gonna make most of it. 460 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: He always tell me, give me the call, go play 461 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: for you. He gonna play hard, So I always I'll 462 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: always count on him in my corner. He gonna throw 463 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: his hat in there, he gonna throw his shoulder in there. 464 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: He'll give you all the guy and uh for those 465 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: sixty minutes and um, you know, he just always want 466 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: to make him play and um and I love that biom. 467 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: He's fiery, a lot of energy and um he's just 468 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: eager to make that play and keep on progression. This 469 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: week in this league, week can and week out. He 470 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: had to Tampa Bay to take on the Buccaneers this Sunday. 471 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: If I'm reck you faced Tom Brady once before in 472 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: your career. He had a good game, three touchdown passes 473 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. What stood out about facing him 474 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: head to head? Oh man, he's got probably won't arguably 475 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: the greatest quarter right to every bloody game. He's seen 476 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: a lot he'd been in there for two decades, Uh, 477 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of coaches. You know, he played a 478 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: lot of ball. He gonna know what you're in, like 479 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: Lui said today, and uh, he's just go You gotta 480 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: think of all the beaters that's gonna come off of 481 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: that and they go run what he likes and um 482 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: so you always got to accept the challenge. That's what 483 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: we're here for, to be the best of what we do, 484 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: and we go play the best of what he does 485 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: at this very moment. And um, you know, um so 486 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: what what what? What an opportunity? What a challenge for 487 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: the group? And I know guys are looking forward to 488 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: it because we know we won't make plays on the 489 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: ball for sure come from him. On this last tour, 490 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: at the end of their game last week against San Francisco, 491 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: it looked like a receiving line. I mean, one guy 492 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: after the other was approaching him. They're asking him to 493 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: sign their jersey. I think a guy that intercepted him 494 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: asked him and signed the ball. Do you anticipate something 495 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: similar this week? If I get what I know, I'm 496 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: gonna get one this week. I'm gonna manifest that. I'll 497 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: probably just send him the mail. I'll probably send the mail. 498 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: But but it's just it's greatness, and you gotta respect greatness. 499 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: And uh man, that's what we're doing for like I said, 500 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: and he just wanted the greatest. Every probably put on 501 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: the helmet and play that position. So you know, we're 502 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 1: admired them from far, but at the end of the day, 503 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: we gotta get the job done. A couple more questions 504 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: for vine Bell. You famously have a first guy in 505 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: the building work ethic, and your teammates greatly admire that. 506 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: Do you need an alarm clock at this point or 507 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: do you just naturally roll out of bed at five 508 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: fifteen or five thirty whatever? It is not a long 509 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: it's always on. This naturally just always stays on. But 510 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I just beat along and always up so 511 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: they give me a look cute to get out the 512 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: door by that time. So, um man, just come here 513 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: to work and um mans. I love it, love the process, 514 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: um and just just love being in it. And uh 515 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: because I always tell them it's a chef life because 516 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: this thing goes by so fast. I was telling one 517 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: of the rooks the other day, I said, I remember 518 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: when I was rooking. I came in now year seven, 519 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: it's just blinking an eye, just having too much fun 520 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: and building relationships and building brotherhoods. That's go last of lifetime. 521 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: So really just enjoy the moment and stay in the 522 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: moment and maximize the moment. You just turned twenty eighth 523 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: this week. Happy birthday. By the way, you are still 524 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: a young man, but you have a presence on this team. 525 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: The young guys kind of look at you as the 526 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: wise sense. Do you enjoy that at times? But I 527 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: also want to give my age away because you know 528 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: that mark. They always try to I guess, let's scared 529 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: all you're getting older but still young. Hard to upbeat it, 530 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: and I take it on just as some more to 531 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: my plate. I accept it, just really just I always 532 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: tell them I'm here to serve and trying to give 533 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: all my knowledge from all the failure successes, trying to 534 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: give it to the important until you so you'd be 535 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: better than me and you take that next step, when 536 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: you take that next that leap until your your next 537 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, progression in your career. So all want to 538 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: feed into the young guys and always give him back. 539 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: One of the best free agent acquisitions this franchise ever made. 540 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: Congratulations on another great season. Best of left the rest 541 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: of the way. Thank you so much. The Steelers, Ravens, 542 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: and Browns all have wins over Tampa Bay this year. 543 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: We'll see if the Bengals can make at four for 544 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: four for the AFC North. The Bengals Booth Podcast is 545 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: brought to you by Bengals Picks and Ultimate Bengals. They're 546 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: free to play with tickets and signed merchandise up for grabs. 547 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: Find both inside the Bengals App. Now time for this 548 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: week's No The Faux segment. Scott Smith covers the Bucks 549 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: for Fox thirteen in Tampa and he joined Dave Lappam 550 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: and Wayne box Miller this week on the Bengals Game 551 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: Plan Show. Here's Scott on where things stand for the 552 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: six and seven Buccaneers. Well, I think getting to the 553 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: playoffs is kind of the first hurdle that they need 554 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: to reach. I mean, this team has been so inconsistent 555 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: this year, and while there is a bulk of that 556 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: attention that's going to be directed toward the play of Brady, 557 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, really, this is this is a comprehensive failure 558 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: in terms of what this year has been. The consistency 559 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: has just not been there. We have. You know, it 560 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: started early on in the season when when pieces of 561 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: that offensive line started to go down. Now you only 562 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: have one of the previous five starters from last year 563 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: in their left tackle Downovan Smith, and he might be 564 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: having his worst season yet as a pro. So I 565 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: think it for Brady it starts up front, the confidence 566 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: that he has in his offensive line. He's he's not 567 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: one that's going to stay back there in the pocket 568 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: and take a sack, and so I think he's maybe 569 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: rushing things a little bit to avoid the sack, just 570 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: to make sure that he maintains his longevity. And when 571 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 1: you when you do that, players are not receivers are 572 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: not getting open. There's I think there's a lot of 573 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: opportunities missed when he's not able to take a little 574 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: bit longer of a drop, And so I think speeding 575 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: the offensive plays up a little bit has hurt this team. 576 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: There's really there's no dynamic playmaker in this offense right now, 577 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: which says a lot given this team had one of 578 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: the best offenses in the league last year, but their 579 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: production this year there, you know, aftercan about seventeen points 580 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: a game, and last week against the forty nine ers, 581 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: they were lucky to get one touchdown. It was a 582 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: bobbled catch in the end zone. So this has just 583 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: been a struggle for Brady and this offense to find consistency, 584 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: to find help, and even when guys are out there 585 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: and playing, we have errant throws and drop balls and 586 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: flags that are calling plays back. So it's just it's 587 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: been a comprehensive lit down this year, especially offensively. Defensively, 588 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: it's a it's a little bit different story. But they 589 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: seem to remain hopeful that they can find their winning 590 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: ways of years past and turn something around here late 591 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: in the season and grab a little bit of momentum. 592 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: But at this point, getting to the playoffs is going 593 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: to be still a hurdle for this team. You mentioned 594 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: Donovan Smith. He's got more holding penalties than any other 595 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: lineman in the National Football League, and honestly, watching tape, 596 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: they're not calling all of them. This dude is a 597 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: holding machine. I mean he is grabbing people out there 598 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: and he has been called you know frequently, but not 599 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: as bad as it could be. You're exactly right, and 600 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: he's a good player. I mean, it's just I guess 601 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: it's one of those years worse got the ankle problem. 602 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: But he'll probably go. He'll probably be able to go. 603 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: Here's an interesting stat on Brady though. When Brady gets 604 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: rid of the football in less than two and a 605 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: half seconds, which is quick, he gets the ball out 606 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: quickly though he's a chuck and duck guy. He didn't 607 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: want to get hit at forty five years old. When 608 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: he gets it out in less than two and a 609 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: half seconds, seventy eight percent completion percentage of eleven touchdowns 610 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: when it's over two and a half seconds drops to 611 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: fifty one percent in only three touchdowns Tom Brady, it's like, 612 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much he trusts that offensive line 613 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: and like you said, everything that's going on around him. 614 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: But man, if he didn't get that ball out like pronto, 615 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: it's issues, isn't it? Yeah? It is. And he doesn't, 616 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,479 Speaker 1: obviously at forty five want to be taking sacks at 617 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: this age. He didn't. He didn't come back to have 618 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: a season ended with injury, so he's cognizant of that. 619 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: And there are some young guys there there Their center 620 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: is a second year guy and he's done an admirable job, 621 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: but he's filling in for for a Pro Bowl center 622 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: in Ryan Jensen, Robert Haynes. He's the guy that's filling in. 623 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: You know, there there everybody, I mean, everybody's new, especially 624 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: now ye have right tackle. I mean, I don't believe 625 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: actually Tristan Worfs is going to play this week. He 626 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: was autter practice field today, kind of running around a 627 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: little bit, but he's dealing with a high ankle sprain. 628 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: He's been out two and a half weeks now. If 629 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: you were to make it back in time for Sunday's game, 630 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: I would be shocked. I think they would still wait 631 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: another week with worth. So you're still looking at kind 632 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: of this. You know, Hodgepodge offensive line And to your 633 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: point about Donovan Smith, he says that he is dealing 634 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: with something. That's what he took reporters in the week. Now. 635 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: He didn't give any more details. I'm not sure if 636 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: that's an injury thing. If it's maybe one of those 637 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: situations where he's saying, if you only knew what injury 638 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm playing through right now, then maybe you would understand 639 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: why this is the case, he didn't. He didn't delve 640 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: into any of those details. But you know the issue 641 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: is is he better than the guy that's behind him? 642 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: And that point was brought up to Todd Holes today 643 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: after practice and says, we're going with the guy that's 644 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: going to give us the best shot to win. And 645 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: Donovan Smith is that guy at left tackle right now, 646 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: so they don't have a better option. If they did, 647 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: they'd go there. Scott Smith, Fox thirteen Sports director joined 648 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: us live from Tampa Bay. You know, Scott, this defense, 649 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: Devin White a guy that is as advertised, and you 650 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: have one of our Cincinnati products and Mike eb was there, 651 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: but do you think that this defense has the ability 652 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: to stop an offense like to Cincinnati Bengers. Not if 653 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: they're down for defensive backs, And that's kind of where 654 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: they are right now. We're still Antoine Winfield, Junior Mike Edwards, 655 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: Sean Murphy Bunting, and then cornerback Jamel Dean, all those 656 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: guys uncertain about their status for this week. So this 657 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: defense has been been good. They've kept their team in 658 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: games this year, but they just haven't been consistent. And 659 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: last week we saw against the forty nine ers a 660 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: team that, really, especially at the back end, black discipline, 661 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: and so without a fully healthy defense, I'm not sure 662 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: exactly what you expect that lush shack Barrett edge rusher 663 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: Earlier this year, they've kind of hobbled some pieces together 664 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: with a second year outside linebacker on Joe Tryon Shoenca 665 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: who hasn't really lived up to expectations, even the first 666 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: round draft pick. On the other side, they got Carl Nassib, 667 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: a guy they kind of picked up the scrap heap, 668 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: a guy that knew this defense because he had played 669 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: for the Bucks previously. But they're not able to generate 670 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: the rush up front, and even their interior defensive linemen 671 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: are Beta Vea is doubtful for this week, and he's 672 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: of course the big man in the middle. He's the 673 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: guy that's gonna really help slow down the run, but 674 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: he's dealing with a calf strain from last week. So 675 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: Ty Bowles saying today that he doubts that beat is 676 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: going to be back for this game. So if they're 677 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: fully healthy, then yeah, I'll put this fucks defense up 678 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: against anybody. I'm not sure that they're in their ability 679 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: to slow down a red hot Cincinnati Bengals offense right now, 680 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: but they're not fully healthy. And so this is what 681 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: it feels like to me right now, because we may 682 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 1: be seeing something more similar to what we saw last 683 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: week when they visited San Francisco, that it could get 684 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: out of hand and it could get ugly early. And 685 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: this team is not a seam that really can fight 686 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: from from behind them. They have to be front runners, 687 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: in my opinion, to really give themselves a chance. And 688 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: so we'll see, We'll see what happens in the opening 689 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: quarter of this game. Those first couple of drives I 690 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: think could set the tenor for the game. Yeah, it's 691 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be interest. The Bengals are seven and 692 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: oh this year when they score first, so they want 693 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: to play with the league, you know. And they're six 694 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: and oh when they lead after the first quarter. So 695 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: if they can jump out to an early start. I'll 696 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: tell you these two linebackers though, Devin White and Lavante David, 697 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: they've played every snap defensively. These guys can run. These 698 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: guys come downhill, they run to the football. That that's 699 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: two very good linebackers. But if you're heard up front 700 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: with via who's really good and on the back end. 701 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean, there's only so much you can do. But 702 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Todd Bowles fourteen different guys have 703 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: at least a half a sack and Todd Bowles defense 704 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: fourteen and the defensive lineman, linebackers, cornerbacks, safeties. I mean, 705 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. He's bringing them from everywhere and he's the guy. 706 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: He's a guy like the offensive coaches. They say, all right, 707 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna make simple things look difficult, difficult things look simple. 708 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: That's what Bowls does with all of his different looks 709 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: and everything that he does. I have a lot of 710 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: respect for him as a defensive coach. What do the 711 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: players think about him in his defensive mind, Well, I 712 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: think that they admire coach Bowls and I think you 713 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: hit on it. As a defensive coordinator, he's one of 714 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: the best in the game. The problem is when that 715 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: how that translator translates over as as a head coach, 716 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: and when you're leading an entire room versus just um, 717 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: you know, working on your defensive game plant. So he 718 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: very much is still a defensive coordinator for this team. 719 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: So Larry Foote kind of takes on a co defensive 720 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: coordinator role for this team, but top Bles is still 721 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator U. So he's oversight as head coach. 722 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: Maybe not where it should be, UM, but he does. 723 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: He draws up obviously exotic flitzes and disguise looks, and 724 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, players on the defensive end love playing for 725 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: him because it's going to give them an opportunity to 726 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: fly off the edge or run a stunt up the middle. UM. 727 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: And you know, with with teams that aren't wise to 728 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: playing against Todd Goles defense, Uh, they can read haboc 729 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 1: and they they've been able to get to the quarterback 730 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: you know, you know, an ample amount of times this year. 731 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: And they do it with a handful of different guys. 732 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, the middle of that defense, LaMonte David Devin, 733 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: why those are the two main stays. Those guys that 734 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: remained healthy, they fly around. But if your defensive line 735 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: is allowing you know, alignment to run free, that it 736 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter because you can't fill those holes. You 737 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: can't stop that run. And that's part of the issue. 738 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: So it's it's a total team thing. I mean, I 739 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: know it's cliche, but this the team has stars on it, 740 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: and those stars have certainly not played like stars this year, 741 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: and the fan base is frustrated. Everybody's searching for answers, 742 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's a lot more nuanced than 743 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: one guy will one side of the ball. It's it's 744 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: all across the board that's going to do it. For 745 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: this episode of the Bengals Booth podcast, presented by Kettering Health, 746 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals, by Bengals Picks 747 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: and Ultimate Bengals, they're free to play with tickets and 748 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: merchandise up for grabs by Paycord, the official HR software 749 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: provider of the Bengals, and by Alta Fiber future Proof 750 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: Fiber Internet elevate your connection with Alta Fiber. 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