1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said. 2 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: That's what he said. 4 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 5 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 3: Okay, So the day after the season ends kind of 6 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: situation here for the Phillies with Dave Dombrowski doing the 7 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: post mortem about a week after they were bounced from 8 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: the postseason. It got more attention because he brought up 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 3: Bryce Harper. He actually brought up a lot of things. 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 3: The only definite he gave us was that Max Kupler 11 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: is not returning. He was on a one year deal, 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: and it sounds like they want Justin Crawford in a 13 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: little bit of an outfield reshuffle. For the most part, 14 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: they're not going to give away everything they're doing for 15 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: the offseason. This is all info coming from The Philly Show, 16 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 3: by the way, which is part of the FT Network, 17 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 3: and it's a fantastic show. But anyway, I want to 18 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: start with Bryce Harper Kratz and get your thoughts here 19 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: from the jump after we roll the clip, because online 20 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: some people are like, oh, Dave Dombrowski's shading Bryce Harper, 21 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: saying he's not good anymore. 22 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: Okay, let's listen to the clip and decide, yes, I don't. 23 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 4: Think I mean in Bryce's case, of course, he's still 24 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 4: a flopping player. He's still love star caliber player. He 25 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 4: didn't have an elite season like he has had in 26 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 4: the past. 27 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 5: And. 28 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 4: I guess we only find out if he becomes the 29 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 4: elite or he continues to be good. 30 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 5: I mean that. 31 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 4: It's not like he's you know, it's like if you 32 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: say to me, I look around the league. I'm trying 33 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 4: to think Freddy Freeman. It's a really good player, right, 34 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 4: he still is a good player. Is he elite like 35 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 4: he was before? Probably not to the same extent, And 36 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 4: so that's nothing that could you know, Freddy's a tremendous player, 37 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 4: And that's to me, is Bryce can he rise to 38 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: the next level? Again, I don't really know that answer. 39 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: I mean, and really he's he's the one that will 40 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: dictate that more than anything else, I mean, is what 41 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: it comes down to. So I don't think he's content 42 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: with the year that he had, and again, it wasn't 43 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 4: a bad year. But when I think of Bryce Harper, 44 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 4: you think an elite right in, one of the top 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: ten players in baseball, and I don't think it fit 46 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: into that category. But again, very good player. I have 47 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 4: no idea when you see somebody. I have seen guys 48 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: at his age again, he's not old that level off 49 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 4: all I've seen guys. 50 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Rise. Again. 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. 52 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: Is he calling him out in a nice way, like 53 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: I want to see Bryce be legendary versus just a 54 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: star in the sport. He certainly wasn't saying what some 55 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: were referring to, like, oh, he's pissed off and doesn't 56 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: like Bryce the season and all that. I mean, Bryce 57 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: said a down year by his standards. That's fair to say, 58 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 3: right Kratz, I'd tell you, oh, hell, yeah, good. He's 59 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: just saying it wasn't you know, Like let me just 60 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: let's keep it simple here for the start, right, Like, 61 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: let's just go on offense for a moment, because he's 62 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 3: a Gold Club finalist. He's playing a really nice first 63 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: base these days, right, talking about Bryce ops plus forty 64 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: two percent better than league average. This year he was 65 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: at one twenty nine, so it's a tick below. I 66 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 3: actually am very against Dave's comments about Freddie Freeman. He's 67 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: like a top three defensive first baseman. His career ops 68 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: plus is one forty two, and this year he was 69 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 3: one forty one. 70 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: Plus. 71 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: He's a postseason legend and monster. I think if anything, 72 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: you know, Bryce coming up short in a small sample 73 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: size in the postseason and not being himself could be 74 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: looked at. 75 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 2: But what's your take here? 76 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 6: My take is they have to dive into was he 77 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 6: one hundred percent healthy? Because very few guys finish a 78 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 6: season one hundred percent healthy. It's how you play through that. 79 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 6: And a one twenty nine ops plus for Bryce, to 80 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 6: me is still legit. It's still an all star level player. 81 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 6: The question was posed, is he still elite? And he's like, 82 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know if he's ever able to. 83 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 6: I've seen guys decline. I've seen guys rise out of 84 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 6: the ashes, is what he said. And I know he 85 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 6: in Philly right now. Bryce Harper is on a dartboard. 86 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 6: Kyle Schwarber is on a dart He's on two dartboards, 87 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 6: and Trey Turner on darbirds because Philly fans are pissed 88 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 6: that those guys didn't hit. But if you watch his demeanor, 89 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 6: if you watch Dombrowski's demeanor, he's like, look like, this 90 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 6: is the team we built. This is a really good player. 91 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 6: Can he improve? It's up to him, So maybe this 92 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 6: was a little prodding. But the only person that can 93 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 6: say it was a little prodding was Bryce. Bryce was 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 6: also the same guy less than a year ago said 95 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 6: maybe I want an extension, Maybe I want to finish 96 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 6: out of Philly. Maybe this is Don Browski's way of saying, 97 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 6: if you want to come back to me with that, 98 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 6: I got to see a little uptick. I'm not saying 99 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 6: it was. I'm saying it could be viewed that way 100 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 6: by Bryce. And the last thing you ever want to 101 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 6: do is give Bryce a reason. I'm not saying that 102 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 6: he's pissing him off, saying he could take that next level. 103 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 6: Why because Bryce has never been that consistent one forty 104 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 6: two ops plus, He's been like one thirty ops plus, bang, 105 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 6: one eighty MVP, one thirty one, thirty one thirty bang MVP, 106 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 6: those types of years. He still got that in him. 107 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 6: I believe that, and he works incredibly hard. He was 108 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 6: drafted as a catcher, became an outfielder so he can 109 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 6: get to the big league so much sooner was an outfielder, 110 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 6: went to first base, and now in the second full 111 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 6: season of being a first baseman, he's a Gold Glove finalist. 112 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 6: And maybe if there's a first base then like Josh 113 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 6: Naylor for the Phillies, would he want to go back 114 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 6: out to right field? 115 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. Question. 116 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: They said no, Dave said no, okay, Dave said deaf no. 117 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: So because you have some fans like oh, Pete Alonzo 118 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: no no, no, not yeah, but Naylor too. I love Naylor, 119 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: but Naylor's first base or dh that's it. And so 120 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: Pryce is the guy. 121 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 6: Pryce is a Gold Glove finalist that's been the knock 122 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 6: on Pete like everybody, And I don't agree with it 123 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 6: because the first base defense is so like the difference 124 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 6: between elite and like brutal isn't that high? Isn't that much? 125 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 6: But to me, I think he's he is settled into 126 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 6: first base. But he said Bryce said he was willing 127 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 6: to do it had they gotten somebody. So the dudes, 128 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 6: the dude's there for the two like, there's no I 129 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 6: don't think there was any shade thrown towards Bryce. I 130 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 6: think Dombrowski was just being honest. 131 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 7: There's a I think a confidence level that Dombrowski kind 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 7: of didn't show there about his guys. So I mean, 133 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 7: for me, if I'm Bryce I'm looking at this like 134 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 7: like I don't know where this is coming from, kind 135 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 7: of like what you said, maybe contract something like what 136 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 7: why is this you know this question or or this 137 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 7: answer being told talking about he's thirty three year olds 138 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 7: that it's not old at all. You know, in my opinion, 139 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 7: thirty three, you're still kicking. You got at least five 140 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 7: more good years. I think he's still going to be 141 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 7: an elite player. I think he's gonna be a top 142 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 7: ten player for sure. Yeah, he had a good year. 143 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 7: He didn't have a great year. Okay, whooped he do? 144 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 7: I mean, your team didn't win. You can't just pinpoint 145 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 7: it on one guy. And I think the last thing 146 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 7: I'll say, like, all right, well, if you're gonna come 147 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 7: out in interviews like that, be prepared for a player 148 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 7: like a guy in Bryce Harper to come out and 149 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 7: ask questions about this staff and about what else to come. 150 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 7: Not attack Don Browski, but say, hey, man, I don't 151 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 7: know what they're doing up there. We know we're looking 152 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 7: for other players. We want this, so maybe Dave. You 153 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 7: know we're talking about top ten gms. Maybe Dave. We 154 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 7: don't know who he is right now, so don't don't 155 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 7: be upset when a player of his stature comes back 156 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 7: at you in a good way, not to crush you, 157 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 7: but to question you a little bit. 158 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna switch things up. I mean, I think 159 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: that much is clear. They didn't do it much last year, 160 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: but I think they're going to do more of it 161 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: this year. 162 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: Kratz. 163 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: It's a lot of regular season success, but they're not 164 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 3: getting where they want to go. They're getting cut off 165 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: a little bit sooner each year. 166 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 6: Posts I heard this last year, they're gonna change, They're 167 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 6: gonna they're gonna change. 168 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: And who did they get? Max Kepler? They picked up 169 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: Jordan Romano, Like they're. 170 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: Gonna do it again. Though, don't you think there's gonna 171 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: be uproar there if they leave everything the same? 172 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 6: The same people, the same people that are saying, oh, 173 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 6: the top three really struggled in the nl DS. Yo, 174 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 6: we gotta sign Schwarba bag go. So there's no way 175 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 6: to be knock a great year? Like what Like anybody 176 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 6: that's come up to me, because I went and played 177 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 6: poker last night and dudes were like, what about the 178 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 6: top three in the NLDS? They were terrible? And I 179 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 6: was like, what are you talking about you're talking about 180 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 6: the Dodgers top three because they were brutal. They actually 181 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 6: got hit out hit by the Phillies top three in 182 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 6: that series. Oh, you're just you're just listening to the 183 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 6: every single thing that everybody else is saying. The Phillies 184 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 6: are not in a bad place. Do they need to 185 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 6: change something? 186 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 187 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 6: Like what do they need to change? Like their music? No, 188 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 6: they need to hit in the postseason. They need to 189 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 6: score more runs at the end of the game and 190 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 6: continue to push forward. 191 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: They haven't done it. They've got to gone in reverse. 192 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 6: You'd rather see your team go and Olds outed and 193 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 6: LDS outed, NLCS and then the World Series, but they 194 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 6: went backwards. So they have to change something. But they 195 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 6: have the personnel to do it, and they're probably gonna 196 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 6: go and sign somebody that will help this lineup. 197 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: They got a hit in October. 198 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 3: Hey, we'll ask Dave about this. He's supposed to join 199 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: us next week, Right next week. 200 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: On Thursday, Dave Dombroskar live on foul Territory. We'll ask him. 201 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: And lastly, Freddie Freeman's busy right now in the postseason, 202 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: but I will represent him on this. Excuse me, I 203 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: would like to refrain from catching strays right now, Thank 204 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: you very much. I know I'm a little bit older, 205 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 3: but my numbers are the same, and I rest my 206 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: case so consistent. 207 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ridiculous. 208 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: Nothing's changed. 209 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: He looks sure if you want to say, he's older, 210 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: a little slower, but the production, the numbers are the 211 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: same for a long time. 212 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: Look it up. 213 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: Can I interest you in surf Shark VPN, which allows 214 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: you to mask certain parts of your surfing around the web. 215 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: Or let's say you're somewhere and you're like, I don't 216 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 3: need this app to know where I am twenty four 217 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: to seven that pops up on your phone all the time. 218 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: Surf Shark can help you out. 219 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: With that privacy and protection. 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Keep your 232 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: data safe and take control of your online security with 233 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: surf Shark. 234 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: What's the beef? 235 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: There's a lot of it actually, with two former stars, 236 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 3: Derek Jeeter and Alex Rodriguez sending shots towards Brian Cashman. 237 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: Cash is like, I've been in the biz for a minute. 238 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: I'm clapping back, and he did so. There were two 239 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: different sides of the coin here. A Rod was more 240 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: ripping the entire roster, saying that it was a terrible 241 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: roster the twenty twenty five Yanks, and Cashman slightly pointed 242 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: out how forty eight hours prior ay Rod picked them 243 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: to win the World Series, So stay hot. I think 244 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: I think Jeter's is the one that we should focus 245 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: more on. And we're going to get sound here from 246 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: cash coming up in just a sec. But Jeter was 247 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: defending Boone and saying you didn't have any inside knowledge, 248 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: but that he felt like Boone was being told what 249 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: to do, which is pretty standard. I will actually side 250 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: comment in Today's Sport. But he was taking a shot 251 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: at Cashman and his group for you know, taking over 252 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 3: and being too analytical and the whole deal. Right, So 253 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 3: cash did not just say I'm not going to cover that. 254 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: He actually went on a radio show WFN and said this. 255 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 5: And they don't know clearly that they don't know. I 256 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: know that DJ said that. I don't know what he 257 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 5: meant by it. He did say he doesn't have inside 258 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 5: knowledge when he said it, but he did say it 259 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 5: for whatever reason. And I think that's the bigaboo that 260 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 5: people get to throw out there when they got nothing 261 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 5: else to throw, you know. It's like, you know, so 262 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 5: he agreed with me that Aaron Boon's a good manager, 263 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 5: does Derek's commentary, and I agree with him, and then 264 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 5: you know, you know, there's always the boogeyman of other 265 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 5: people are making the calls analytics, analytics, analytics. People like 266 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 5: to throw that too, you know, and none of that's accurate. 267 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 268 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 5: At the end of the day, you know, you put 269 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 5: Yo Tour on a deposition, you put your Joji Alurdy 270 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 5: under a deep position, you put Aaron Moon under de deposition. 271 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 5: I've never picked a lineup. We've never picked a lineup. 272 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 5: We don't tell them who to play. We don't tell 273 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 5: them who to pitch, whether it's the tenor the rotation. 274 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 5: We do have conversations, like every organization you know about, 275 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 5: you know, you know what's best at times in our opinion, 276 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 5: their opinion. They'll ask us various different things, and that's 277 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 5: about process and the setups. But at the end of 278 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 5: the day, they have the power of the lineup in 279 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 5: the in gaming and it just isn't the case. So 280 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 5: it's just a sad, sad uh, you know, throw away 281 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 5: comments for people to make that don't really know. 282 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: A little extra context too. 283 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: Rod doesn't love cash because in twenty thirteen he got 284 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 3: the two hundred eleven game PD suspension kind of broke 285 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: up the relationship with him and with many others. To 286 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: be fair, he sued everybody besides himself on that one. 287 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 3: Jeter after twenty ten didn't get the long term deal 288 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 3: and he's bitter about that, and that's fair. Just to 289 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: give you a little context that they're not BFFs. Your 290 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: thoughts on one side versus the other. 291 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 7: Here, Yeah, interesting, just very interesting. It's a little uh, 292 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 7: I think I think everybody's a little upset right now. 293 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 7: The Yankees aren't in the playoffs and they're not fighting 294 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 7: their way to get to the World Series. I think 295 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 7: that's where it stems from. I think there's a little 296 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 7: bit of tough love, like, hey man, why aren't the 297 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 7: Yankees winning. There's got to be some sort of issue. 298 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 7: I mean, trying to defend. I think Derek Jeter's trying 299 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 7: to defend his buddy, you know, Aaron Boone, which in 300 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 7: alrighty has and and he can and I think you know, 301 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 7: you don't. Here's the thing. You don't really see this 302 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 7: too much in Yankee lamb know, the talking back and 303 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 7: not back and forth to each other. But one guy 304 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 7: especially is such prowess and such Hall of Fame status 305 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 7: as as Derek Jeter is. All of a sudden, now 306 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 7: he's he's got a platform. He could say basically what 307 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 7: he wants on on on the channel he's on and 308 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 7: and talking about baseball, and he let him lose. See 309 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 7: what he was like, listen, I don't have a source, 310 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 7: but at the same time, I got I gotta feel 311 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 7: that I know Aaron's not making the choices here and 312 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 7: Cashman all of a sudden came back with it. So 313 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 7: I'd love to see what transpires after this. Do I 314 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 7: think anything? Will? I don't, But yeah, little ding here, 315 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 7: a little ding there. There's nothing wrong with that. These 316 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 7: two grown men trying to, you know, help each other out, 317 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 7: making sure things are said right. 318 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: Jeter might not have a direct source Kratz, but is 319 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: he wrong. Jeter recently worked in a front office, and 320 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: I think on cash side bringing up Joe Torri or 321 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: even Joe Girardi at this point is so long ago 322 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: the game has changed. No manager makes decisions on their own, 323 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: and they shouldn't make decisions on their own. They very 324 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: valuable information. I think the part where the fight is 325 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: going on, and there are others involved too, with this 326 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: fight is that Aaron Boone is just heading to the 327 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: ballpark and saying my way or the highway. 328 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: Baby. 329 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: Everything I do is completely driven by me. Boone wants 330 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: the information. But also if he disagreed every single day, 331 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: would he be working for the Yankees. 332 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 6: No, But if you don't disagree with people, you never 333 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 6: get anywhere the organization that I was asked about the 334 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 6: most I've said this before on the show when I 335 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 6: went back to the Yankees was the Rays. 336 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: What do the Rays do different? What do the Rays do? 337 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 6: And I said, the Rays put everything they can into 338 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 6: wanting to win, and they're not afraid of letting people 339 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 6: say things, bring things up, and contradict each other. And 340 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 6: I'll be honest, I saw that with the Yankees. I 341 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 6: saw those conversations. Were there people that didn't agree, Yeah, absolutely, 342 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 6: but they didn't get fired for not agreeing. The people 343 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 6: that I saw get fired from that organization were people 344 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 6: who completely went against what the organization's view of how 345 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 6: to do things was going to be. So when they 346 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 6: brought in Aaron Boone, Aaron Boone was not like, oh man, 347 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 6: I gotta have this job to me. Aaron Boone has 348 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 6: done an incredible job because he sets an environment that 349 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 6: fosters people to question why they are saying something. Why 350 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 6: would you put Aircrats in the lineup over Gary Sanchez? 351 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 6: Why would you put Kyle Higashioka in the lineup over 352 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 6: Gary Sanchez or Gian Carlos. You know, all these things 353 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 6: are discussed and there's disagreements, but I believe at the 354 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 6: end of the day, this organization wants to win and 355 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 6: they push in the same direction. 356 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: And some things. There's a louder voice. 357 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 6: Sometimes it's analytics is allowed her voice, sometimes it has 358 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 6: to be boone is a louder voice, and him saying, look, 359 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 6: this is what I'm seeing on the field, and I 360 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 6: completely disagree with what a Rod said. This was a 361 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 6: good team. They just were not better than the Blue 362 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 6: Jays in this series. 363 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm keeping A Rod's part mostly out of it, and 364 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: it's like, I mean, they're gonna win the World Series 365 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 3: two days later, they're the worst team that were. Like, Okay, 366 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: I think the Jeter Cashman part actually has juice to 367 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: it because I see both sides here. Cash is not 368 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 3: showing up in the dugout saying boot bop beep every 369 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: single day. But the front office does help make a 370 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: good chunk of the decision make. But they give that dude, 371 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: they give them information every day. Here's what the lineup 372 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 3: should look like. 373 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: You do you right? 374 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 3: If you think this player is going through it and 375 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: you're talking to him, that's fine, But that I mean, 376 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: that's normal. Like Joe Madden was on our show the 377 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: other day. You were on with him and he pushes 378 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: against this, but still for years, I know for the Cubs, 379 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 3: for example, they'd send him all his info and then 380 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 3: that morning he'd be on a tablet and he'd be 381 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 3: taking their info, mixing it with what he's. 382 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: Got like that. That's okay, We're allowed to give info. 383 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 7: My thing is, here's what the lineup is. Good luck 384 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 7: and you have no. 385 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: Choice, right, And there are some teams that do that too, right, 386 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: So then yeah, that's not them, that's fine. But my 387 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: point is to act like they don't have influence. Of 388 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: course they have influence, like every team has influenced these days. 389 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 3: And I don't know, I know, we can go all 390 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 3: day about this, but go ahead. 391 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: Last word, crats No, I don't have a last word. 392 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk, we could talk all the 393 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: time about it. 394 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 6: But in my opinion, Cashman has done everything to put 395 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 6: this team in a place to win. 396 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: The moves. 397 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 6: The guys that he's picked up after they pivoted from 398 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 6: not getting SODO, that's clearly no brainer. Cashman shouldn't be 399 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 6: on the hot seat. In my opinion, he should not 400 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 6: be on the hot seat the organization. Maybe some of 401 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 6: the decisions outside of Cashman and Boom. I think these 402 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 6: two guys are should have the the full trust from 403 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 6: Hal Steinberner to continue to do what they've been doing, 404 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 6: and that's making the playoffs year in and year out. 405 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 6: And I think they're gonna make a run of the 406 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 6: World Series again next year some way, somehow. 407 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've assembled good rosters. They've made their mistakes. I 408 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 3: think the Bolpie situation, the more I've heard about it 409 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: doesn't make sense, like, oh, it was more of a 410 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 3: problem than we thought. Okay, then you shouldn't have been 411 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 3: playing as much. That's a separate issue. The last thing, 412 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 3: real quick, the analytics side, like oh the analytics, excuse y, 413 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: it is a real thing. 414 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: Okay. 415 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 3: The Yankees are top three in that for a long 416 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 3: period of time and own it. They always act like, 417 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 3: oh no, we don't care about that, and then behind 418 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: the scenes, like you talk to I mean, I'm including 419 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 3: eight list players that I've heard from, not this year, 420 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: last year, but it's probably like that have said like, yeah, 421 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: we had to talk to them internally. It was getting 422 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 3: too much. We go back and forth. We don't feel 423 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 3: like they're hearing us on that, Like that's not a secret. 424 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: That's minor leagues, that's major leagues. And there's always that 425 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: give and take, and they're not the only team, but 426 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: to act like, oh, oh, we hear the analytics, oh complaints. 427 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: Like, to me, that's belittling everybody around you and lying. 428 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: But that's me. 429 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 6: I think Yankee fans also need to hit get hit 430 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 6: with this dose of reality. Yes, they have not won 431 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 6: since two thousand and nine. In two thousand and nine, 432 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 6: and even like in the earlier when they won back 433 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 6: in the early two thousands, they were this far above 434 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 6: everybody else in the sense of like some of their 435 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 6: forward thinking and spending, well, that spending's never changed the differences. 436 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 6: A lot of teams have closed that gap. Now the 437 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 6: Yankees aren't getting worse. The other teams have closed that 438 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 6: gap with the with the edge that the Yankees had. 439 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 6: So now the Yankees have to find that new edge. 440 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 6: And to me, that new edge really sits in the 441 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 6: person to person interaction. How do you not get that 442 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 6: stuff wrong? How do you get that stuff throughout the 443 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 6: one sixty two then and then implement it into the postseason, 444 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 6: Like this is a team that was in the World 445 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 6: Series last year, Like they were in the World Series 446 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 6: they got beaten five games. Yes, they're in the World Series. 447 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 6: They are right there. I just think the rest of 448 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 6: the league has caught up to them. Now they have 449 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 6: to find a way to open that gap back up again. 450 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: This episode of Foul Territory is brought to you by 451 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 3: Fox one. 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I know 470 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: we've talked about this a lot, but people are like 471 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: totally up in arms with the with the volpy stuff 472 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: because it sounds like he's coming back to be the 473 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: short stop. 474 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: His season's going to start late. We got some of 475 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: the info yesterday. I didn't. 476 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 3: We got the info he can't swing for four months, 477 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: but we can't dive for balls for six months, so 478 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 3: that dips you into the start of the season. Here's 479 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 3: my main concern, and a lot of Yankee fans voice 480 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: this too. They said, Okay, is next year going to 481 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: be the oh, it's the first year off the shoulder 482 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: surgery situation. Matt McClain had that, right, We're gonna talk 483 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: to Will Benson coming up in a moment, not necessarily 484 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: much about that. But my point is, you do hear 485 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 3: that a lot shoulder surgery is a big deal, No, Joe, 486 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 3: it's no joke. He might he might be off for 487 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: a year, right, Like the numbers might be quite off 488 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: for a year, even from what he usually posts. So 489 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: that's where there's frustration, which I think is warranted. 490 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: Don't you think that's fair? 491 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: Sure, if you're gonna get a lesser version of what 492 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 3: he's given you, Yanks fans are like, Yo, this is 493 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: this is the spot where they're dialed in right now, 494 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 3: Like he was hurt, you played him. 495 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: Now he might be. 496 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 3: Worse coming off shoulder surgery, and you're still sticking by 497 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: him as your shortstop, which is the big position for them. 498 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the unknown. It's the unknown factor of you know, 499 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 7: how is he gonna come off surgery? Is there anything 500 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 7: else in there that we didn't see? You know, there's 501 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 7: a lot of MRIs out there that show one thing 502 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 7: and next thing, you know. 503 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: There's more. 504 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 7: We'll see. It's the big unknown factor and it's gonna 505 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 7: be a big talk this offseason about what they're gonna do, 506 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 7: and it's really up to the Yankees in a breath 507 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 7: to figure that out. I don't have this lightest clue. 508 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 7: I love Anthony Bolpe. I think he's a great kid. 509 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 7: I think he's good, and I think when he's healthy 510 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 7: he's a really good shortstop. He's a gold glover. As 511 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 7: we know, we know he can hit. I feel like 512 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 7: part of that whole thing was because of the shoulder. 513 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 7: He's pulling off a lot more too as well. So 514 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 7: was he overcompensating We don't know, So it's something this offseason. 515 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 7: It's gonna be a big storyline. 516 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: By far the most talked about Adie ops plus guy 517 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: in baseball history. But I'm sure it'll keep coming up. 518 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: I think we got one minute some comments about our 519 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: Philly stuff just now. Don said, will Dombrowski be elite again? 520 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: Can he rise to the next level. I think he's 521 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: done a pretty good job, but yeah, I would say 522 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 3: he has to maybe shake things up and armand said 523 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 3: sugar Do mac alb reported Castianos likely to be traded 524 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 3: or released. 525 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: I think he'll get del Kratz. 526 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: I mean they'll eat some money, but I think another 527 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 3: team will take that back. 528 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: Hot Coinner time just a couple of minutes, like one 529 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: quick thought each. 530 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 3: John Hayman writing about how Schooble has a big gap 531 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: between what he's thinking what the Tigers are thinking. Evan 532 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 3: Petzold and the Detraite Free Press also wrote about it 533 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: and said that John Hammond goes two hundred and fifty 534 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 3: million apart in negotiations. Estimated was that the Tigers offer 535 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 3: after the twenty four season, and the projection that Schooble 536 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 3: will command at least four hundred million free agency following 537 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six and his story Evans he said it 538 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: might even be three hundred million apart. I mean, that's 539 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: a lot to be a part on. So it sounds 540 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: like they might trade him. You're gonna let him go 541 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: into his last year. 542 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 7: I mean you're usually right on these things. But if 543 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 7: I'm the Tigers, I'm trying anything I can do to 544 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 7: keep this guy. He's been a staple. He's an incredible 545 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 7: left handed pitcher. He's ridiculously good. This could leave a 546 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 7: bad taste, you know how this goes, especially with bars clients. 547 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 7: Man like, he knows what they should be getting and 548 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 7: he's not going to steer away from telling them this 549 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 7: is what it is and see what happens. But it 550 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 7: makes me nervous because you know, this is one of 551 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 7: the bigger names after next year, right that might be 552 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 7: on the market. If not, yeah, they trade you, I 553 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 7: mean that I don't think they should. I think they 554 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 7: should find any which way to keep this guy in 555 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 7: this team. 556 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: Kratz. 557 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: They can afford him, of course, but I do think 558 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 3: you have a little bit of like where the Mets 559 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: went last offseason, not buying, spending hundreds of millions on 560 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 3: starters and the Schoogle sides like, oh, hey, have you 561 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: been watching the playoffs? 562 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 563 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 6: Two hundred and fifty million apart on a pitcher's contract. 564 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 6: What pictures are making over two hundred and fifty million dollars? Yes, Yamamoto, 565 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 6: that is it. Sorry, they weren't two hundred and fifty million. 566 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 6: This is I'm gonna say, fake news. That's that's my 567 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 6: whole reaction to it, because Boris doesn't even A team 568 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 6: would be asinine to think that Boris is going to 569 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 6: sign a early extension, So don't offer him anything. Don't 570 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 6: give him anything to like take and say, okay, well 571 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 6: I'll go and do this. Like I have a hard 572 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 6: time believing the Tigers were that naive to think that 573 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 6: Boris would accept an extension, and then the fact that 574 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 6: they're two hundred and fifty million apart. 575 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. 576 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not buying it. And there's no reason too. 577 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 6: You still got him, You still got him. He's pitching 578 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 6: for your team. He's gonna hit free agency, he's earned that. 579 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 6: Go big for him a free agency. But two hundred 580 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 6: and fifty apart? What did they offer twenty million? And 581 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 6: Boris wanted two seventy, like, I don't think so is. 582 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: It two fifty and they want five hundred. I don't know. 583 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna have plenty of time to talk about this 584 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: in the opposition. 585 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 7: I don't think. 586 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: I know, I know, you know, I'm I'm kind of like, eh, hey, 587 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: Yadi put this out on Instagram. 588 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: He's ready. He's ready. 589 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: A few years on the sidelines and just poking his 590 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: head into a dugout. He's ready to manage. He is 591 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: officially declared, laying himself assignable manager. 592 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: He might get signed. 593 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 7: It's a great time too, A ton of openings, a 594 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 7: ton I think there's nothing. I think you'd be a 595 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 7: solid manager, and I think this is the perfect time 596 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 7: to come out and say that. 597 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: M h. 598 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 6: I'd love to be a manager and have him as 599 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 6: my bench coach. I wonder, I wonder how he's gonna do. 600 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 6: I wonder how he's gonna do in the media sense, 601 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 6: because there's a ton of that kind of stuff. He 602 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 6: wasn't that open as a player, and I'm trying to 603 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 6: I'm racking my brain to think of like significant players 604 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 6: that are managers now that didn't have that like media 605 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 6: where we have an example of him speaking out in 606 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 6: the media. He just didn't see it a lot throughout 607 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 6: his career and played in an easy market Saint Louis, 608 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 6: where it didn't need to and it didn't press him. 609 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 6: But that's the part that Hey, maybe this Instagram post, 610 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 6: look at me, I'm spread my social media wings. I 611 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 6: can do media. 612 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and bench coach might be a good gateway for 613 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 3: him to just get a feel for what the manager's 614 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 3: working with every day. And maybe it's a manager that 615 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: would even let him do some speaking to see it's 616 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: not the comfort thing. He's brilliant, right, I've spoken to YACHTI. 617 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: He's brilliant and he's super well respected. He for the 618 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 3: most part, hated talking to the media. Hated right, not 619 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: in a mean way. He's just like, nah, I'm good, 620 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 3: I'm busy twice today