WEBVTT - #522 Packers Unscripted: Perimeter picture

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted social

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<v Speaker 1>distancing style from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford,

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<v Speaker 1>joined as always by my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>from our humble abodes and uh West, the Easter Bunny

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<v Speaker 1>We got our headphones back. We got our headphones back.

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<v Speaker 1>We have microphones. Slowly but surely, Mike, this is turning

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<v Speaker 1>back into the Packers on scripted that you and I

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<v Speaker 1>have grown accustomed to. But I'll say this, it was difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>It was weird. It has been something a challenge, you

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<v Speaker 1>could say, not doing the show without headphones. Fortunately the

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<v Speaker 1>comfort is back on my ears. Yeah, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back in a little bit more in our element. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to continue today with our pre draft series,

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<v Speaker 1>taking a look at the Packers roster position by position

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<v Speaker 1>between now and the draft. There is a written series

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<v Speaker 1>corresponding to this on Packers dot com if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to check out what is there on the website. Today

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to touch on wide receivers and tight ends

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<v Speaker 1>and boy West, if there is a position that people

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about. This entire offseason. With regard to the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Packers, it is the wide receiver position. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me your take as of right now on where you

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<v Speaker 1>feel this position group is heading into next week's draft. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a lot of uncertainty After Davante Adams. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you saw Alan Lazard step up in a huge

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<v Speaker 1>way last season. But I don't know if a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are expecting that a year ago at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe everyone other than Hakim Butler that I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to back at the combine. I remember him really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>praising Allan for what he did at Iowa, stating what

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<v Speaker 1>he could potentially add to the Packers offense. He got

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<v Speaker 1>that opportunity, he end up getting cut at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of training camp, ends up having you know, a really

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<v Speaker 1>star spangled season for the Packers. So you have him

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<v Speaker 1>in that mix, you have Marquez veld Is Scantling, who

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<v Speaker 1>I think is we've seen Mike overtime is such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge playmaker in this offense. He did go through some

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<v Speaker 1>rough patches last year. The argument that I said at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of last season, I will maintain this going

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<v Speaker 1>into next year. Kids still has all the talent in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, though I think he was only one big

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<v Speaker 1>play away from being back in his groove. As difficult

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<v Speaker 1>it is to you, everyone wants to live in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you remember what he did coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gates in two thousand and eighteen, he's an increcredibly

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<v Speaker 1>talented guy and also has some good speed that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you bring everything else together, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>can really make up a complete receiver in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>So I look at Lizard, I look at MVS, and

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<v Speaker 1>then certainly you know this all revolves around Davante Adams.

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams is one of the premier receivers in this league. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>who can you find to complement his skill set to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in a Randall cob At, Jordy Nelson, uh Greg

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<v Speaker 1>Jennings and James Jones, those type of receivers that he

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<v Speaker 1>can get on a run with, Because over the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years here it's you know, basically Ben Davontae

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<v Speaker 1>Adams and a rotating crew. Finding more established playmakers in

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<v Speaker 1>this offense, I think is one of the big keys

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what happens in the draft next week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the way I see this Packers wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>group after Davante Adams is a question mark sort of

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<v Speaker 1>with each guy, and they're each going to have an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to answer that question you mentioned with Lazard and

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<v Speaker 1>how he rose up into that number two spot by

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the season and towards season end. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the question with Lazard is can he continue to ascend?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, will his arrow continue to be pointing up

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of his development MVS that you mentioned. Can

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<v Speaker 1>he bounce back essentially from a rough ending to a

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<v Speaker 1>second season that had started pretty well at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen Then you look at e q st Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>he lost his entire second season to an injury. Where

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<v Speaker 1>is he Can he come back from that season ending

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<v Speaker 1>injury and get back to where he was at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of his rookie season when really he was ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of MVS probably in terms of the playing time in

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<v Speaker 1>the rotation. And then you have the new addition Devin Functious,

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<v Speaker 1>who is also coming off of a significant injury. Packers

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<v Speaker 1>signed him as a free agent from Carolina. The question

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<v Speaker 1>with him is can he get back to the production

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<v Speaker 1>that he was putting up a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 1>with Cam Newton. But I'm sorry they signed him from

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<v Speaker 1>Indianapolis because his his lost season injury was with the

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<v Speaker 1>Colts after he had left Carolina. So there's that that

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<v Speaker 1>question mark with each one of those guys. And you

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<v Speaker 1>have Jake Crumero in that mix as well. He was,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, I would say a part time contributor. He

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<v Speaker 1>made a couple of plays for the Packers, but was

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<v Speaker 1>never really a consistent threat. I think the Packers are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find that other consistent threat on a weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>week out basis, who is going to influence defensive coordinators

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<v Speaker 1>in some way. Uh, similarly to how Davante Adams is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who keeps the defensive coordinators up at night,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak. The Packers need to find that other

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<v Speaker 1>guy and then see what happens in twenty nineteen as

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<v Speaker 1>far as how the pecking order gets reshaped or restocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Where those guys ranked behind Adams. Yeah, because you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a wide open competition. You want that to

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<v Speaker 1>bring out the best in this entire group. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, I think you want to have more

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<v Speaker 1>established presence is in this offense, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>where Devin Funch just kind of fits in because he's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that he's only twenty five years old. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna turn twenty six until next month, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>already played five NFL seasons or at least been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>crude seasons. So for him to come into Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>right now and bringing his type of you know, body

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<v Speaker 1>type and athleticism, I think so many people forget that

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Funches, he was a second round pick five years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a guy that went twelve spots ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>where the Packers ended up getting Davantae. Yeah, Davante Adams

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<v Speaker 1>a year earlier. So he has all the intangibles to

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<v Speaker 1>be a big playmaker in this league. And the thing

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<v Speaker 1>I really like about him in this offense, and I

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<v Speaker 1>kept alluding to this since the day that they signed him,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think there's so many opportunities when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to his versatility, his skill set, playing tight end at Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>playing receiver at Michigan, being a multifaceted receiver in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>There're gonna be so many ways the Packers are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to use that type of player in this

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<v Speaker 1>offense with Matt Laflour. But it's funny, Mike, because you

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<v Speaker 1>can throw all these guys in a hat together. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also an incredibly enticing draft class that the Packers are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to choose from as well, one that's I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people have said is probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the deepest that we've seen in the last decade.

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<v Speaker 1>So seeing how Brian Goodquins navigates these waters it those

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<v Speaker 1>three days of the draft, I'm I'm convinced the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>will take a receiver where they take a receiver to

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<v Speaker 1>bring into that group, because you remember did Geronimo Allison's gone,

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<v Speaker 1>that's six D fifty snaps out the door. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>have to find a guy to potentially help outfill that

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<v Speaker 1>and man, there are a lot of guys that choose from. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about that draft class a little bit, because,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, the analysts are saying, this is as

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<v Speaker 1>deep as it's been at wide receiver in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of people wondering, will the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>use their first round pick at number thirty overall on

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<v Speaker 1>a receiver. Others are saying, hey, as deep as this classes,

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<v Speaker 1>you could still get a really potentially high impact receiver

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the second round, even maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the third round, you look at some of

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<v Speaker 1>the names. I'm gonna just a glance off to my

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<v Speaker 1>notes here. The top three guys at receiver in this

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<v Speaker 1>draft Ceedee Lamb from Oklahoma and the two guys from Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>Jury Judy and Henry Ruggs most likely almost certainly will

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<v Speaker 1>be gone by the time the Packers are on the

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<v Speaker 1>clock at number thirty. But then after that West you

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<v Speaker 1>have this group of guys. It's about a half dozen

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are ranked as far as the overall draft

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere from like forty five, and with the Packers picking

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<v Speaker 1>at thirty, it'll be interesting to see who's available and

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<v Speaker 1>what choices there are, or is one of these guys

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<v Speaker 1>potentially going to last all the way to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the second round. And that group, in my mind

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<v Speaker 1>is Justin Jefferson from l s U. T. Higgins from Clemson,

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon i Uk from Arizona State, Leaviscus Chennault Jr. From Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>Denzel Mims from Baylor, and Jalen Reagor from TCU. That's

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<v Speaker 1>six really really good receivers that how soon are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to go off the board? How many will go

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round, how many will go in the

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<v Speaker 1>second round. I think it's gonna be really interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see how Brian Goodcounts plays this in terms of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get the best value at receiver. And then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>throw out a couple more kJ Hamler from Penn State

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<v Speaker 1>and Chase Clayplo from Notre Dame. Those are guys that

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<v Speaker 1>I think in other years you'd be talking about second round.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. This year as deep as the receiver classes,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe those guys are there at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>third round when the Packers pick comes up uh late,

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<v Speaker 1>their last pick late on Day two. And then of

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<v Speaker 1>course there are all kinds of trade possibilities if Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Goodacoutz wants to work the board and get the best value,

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<v Speaker 1>if he wants to take a receiver early in this draft,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think the Packers are going to. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course it's one of those things you never know, because

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<v Speaker 1>receiver is not the only position on the priority list. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when I when I say that, I thought they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take on this here. A lot of that has to

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they didn't go that out last year

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<v Speaker 1>after they took three the year before. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's a position that they're due to address

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<v Speaker 1>It's the question in my mind is where do you

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<v Speaker 1>address it? And as you were talking about me personally,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite receiver in this draft is Henry Ruggs. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna be a fantastic player in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>I love his makeup, I love everything he brings. He

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of that Greg Jennings type receiver. He could

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<v Speaker 1>play anywhere and make an impact. He's probably not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there at thirty, though, so that's where you

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<v Speaker 1>get in the joke, you get into the Justin Jefferson debate,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly had an accomplished career at L s U.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of things there that you

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<v Speaker 1>like about him. The Packers have had success with his

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<v Speaker 1>type of body type in this offense. Davante Adams is

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, So that that's a guy that could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially be there. That the one that I keep going

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<v Speaker 1>back to those te Higgins because he fits more of

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<v Speaker 1>the mold, at least the recent mold of what the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are looking for in receivers. Big, physical, and and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, has some athleticism to him. That's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>at six four that I wonder if he's there potentially

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the first round, maybe move around

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<v Speaker 1>early second. Would that be a guy that they bite on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And the body type thing is an interesting question because

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about this with Larry at the combine and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>If are the Packers going to look for the different

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<v Speaker 1>body type, more of the shifty slot receiver and add

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<v Speaker 1>that to the mix. And that's where you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Reagor or kJ Hamler or even Brandon i Uk

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<v Speaker 1>to a certain extent, although he's he's not a small guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a yards after the catch guy. One of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys who's really tough to bring down, um really

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<v Speaker 1>shifty once he gets the ball in his hands. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think all of those are interesting possibilities. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at a situation similar to two thousand eight

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<v Speaker 1>when the Packers were sitting at thirty you trade back

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty six, you pick up an extra pick, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you get Jordy Nelson. I could very well see

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<v Speaker 1>a scenario like that playing out here because of the

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<v Speaker 1>number of receivers who will be available end of the

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<v Speaker 1>first beginning of the second. Maybe that happens again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the part of it that I keep going back to them.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about a little bit with the tight ends,

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<v Speaker 1>although it won't be as much of a pressing thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it has been eighteen years since the Packers have

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<v Speaker 1>drafted a receiver in the first round. Mike, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even in high school yet when the Packers drafted Javon Walker.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not to make you feel old. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>incredible to go eighteen years and a lot of that,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was trying to figure out, Okay, why would

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<v Speaker 1>that be? But when you look at the success they

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<v Speaker 1>had in the second round, yep, that's where it all is.

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you found another stud in James Jones and the third.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have that kind of success in the second round,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to draft receivers in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the chicken in the egg question here that

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<v Speaker 1>we go into this draft. The Packers have had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of success in the in the second day finding receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they go that way again with a deep class

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<v Speaker 1>or is there a guy at thirty or in that

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<v Speaker 1>range that could really tempt them. Yeah, Well, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about tight ends as well a little bit, so not

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<v Speaker 1>a position that is I think is high on the

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<v Speaker 1>priority list, so to speak. Because the Packers did bring

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<v Speaker 1>back Marcedes Lewis. Jimmy Graham signed with the Chicago Bears,

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<v Speaker 1>so he has gone on. But we saw j Sternberger,

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<v Speaker 1>the third round pick from a year ago, coming on

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<v Speaker 1>pretty strong at the end of his rookie year, which

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<v Speaker 1>was really impressive considering he missed half of the season

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<v Speaker 1>due to an injury before he came off the pup list.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you also have Robert Tony and another young

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<v Speaker 1>guy the Packers are still hoping his arrow is pointing up.

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<v Speaker 1>He dealt with some injuries and never really found his

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<v Speaker 1>you know, real spot or roll on a consistent basis

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<v Speaker 1>in this offense. But that's a possibility as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Packers will look to add another tight

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<v Speaker 1>end potentially in this draft and add more competition to

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<v Speaker 1>that room. And you know, Marcedes Lewis being the veteran

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<v Speaker 1>leader at the top of the bunch. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>not the same tight end draft as a year ago

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<v Speaker 1>West where there were two guys everybody was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round, the top half of the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not where this draft classes. And there may not

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<v Speaker 1>be a tight end drafted in the first round this

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<v Speaker 1>year at all. Yeah, you're right, And I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of these deals where a lot of years it's

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<v Speaker 1>like this where there is an a bona fide tight

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<v Speaker 1>end prospect, or at least one that people feel really

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<v Speaker 1>good about as a first round pick. So you do

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<v Speaker 1>look more internally. That's not to say you couldn't go

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<v Speaker 1>get a Harrison Bryant or somebody in those middle rounds

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<v Speaker 1>the third day or you know, third round that could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially help you. But I keep going back to what

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<v Speaker 1>I said last year when the Packers drafted j Sternberger.

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<v Speaker 1>Packers did not need j Sternberger to be a Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl or his first year in Green Bay. They needed

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<v Speaker 1>him to learn. And if you followed his story at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and and kind of how he just you know, soaked

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<v Speaker 1>in everything from Jimmy Graham Orcedes Lewis and even to

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<v Speaker 1>some extent Robert Tonyan, you understand how seriously he takes

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<v Speaker 1>this in the competitor he is, and I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>started to see that fire at the end of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a guy that yeah, and his NFL regular season

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<v Speaker 1>resume does not have a catch yet, but what he

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<v Speaker 1>did in that game in San Francisco showing some of

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the versatility without having Danny vital with

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<v Speaker 1>him getting the touchdown catch, there is a big playmaker there.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you follow his trajectory throughout his career, it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't taken him long to catch on. So while well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be about Louis and in being

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<v Speaker 1>that consistent you know, inline blocker and and all around

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<v Speaker 1>veteran tight end. And while I think Robert Tonyan also

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<v Speaker 1>has to make a big jump this year, Jay Sternberger

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<v Speaker 1>is the guy. He was the guy when the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>use a third round draft pick on him and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to see him make that next step. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>a tight end that could come in and help replace

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Graham filled that spot. Absolutely, Yeah, But I but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see it obviously happening in the first round. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of things that I'll say with Sternberger as well.

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<v Speaker 1>One is that when he did get on the field

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half of his rookie season, I think

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<v Speaker 1>his blocking was better than a lot of people expected.

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<v Speaker 1>The draft pundits all the analysts last year, we're saying

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<v Speaker 1>he was really raw in terms of his blocking abilities,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you said, he doesn't take a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time to catch onto things, and I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was a very productive blocker in the way that Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Lafleur used him in the offense. The other thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that I believe Larry maybe had mentioned this in one

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<v Speaker 1>of our three Things videos. If Jay Sternberger had stayed

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<v Speaker 1>in school another year, he might be the top tight

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<v Speaker 1>end in this draft class. So that's another thing to

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, just in terms of in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>what the Packers invested there in a third round pick

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Just to throw out a couple of names

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<v Speaker 1>that are at the top of a lot of tight

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<v Speaker 1>end boards, cold commit from Notre Dame is pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>the consensus top tight end in this draft. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there are questions though, as to whether he'll be drafted

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round or if he'll be a second

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<v Speaker 1>round pick. Another guy to keep an eye on Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Troutman from Dayton And you know, I like this guy

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<v Speaker 1>west I wrote about him at the Combine. I just

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<v Speaker 1>really like his story. A triple option quarterback in high

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<v Speaker 1>school couldn't get anybody at a Division one, a major

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<v Speaker 1>Division one school to pay attention to him. He goes

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<v Speaker 1>to Dayton and now he's going to be drafted, and

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be the first football draft pick from Dayton in

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<v Speaker 1>forty three years, nineteen seventy seven, which I think was

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<v Speaker 1>before you were born. It was before I even started

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<v Speaker 1>watching football games. I'll say that nine seventy seven the

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<v Speaker 1>last time Dayton had a player drafted. And I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw one other name out there west for you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the name that Packer fans are familiar with. Thaddeus Moss. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he is the son of Hall of Fame wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Moss. He's coming out of L s U. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to make it a direct comparison, but

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the draft stock and whatnot, I look

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<v Speaker 1>at this guy a lot like a Jamichael Finley, where

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<v Speaker 1>he's only in college for a couple of years. There's

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of athletic ability, but it's not refined. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very raw. He he is a guy who is going

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<v Speaker 1>to need to progress a lot in the NFL. But

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<v Speaker 1>the ceiling with a guy like Thaddeus Moss appears to

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<v Speaker 1>be really high and I'll just be curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>where he goes in the draft, what team takes him

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<v Speaker 1>and makes that bet on you know, the uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>ascending young player who really didn't play a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>in college, but but towards the end of his two

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<v Speaker 1>years at L s U was really really productive. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of points I want to raise here.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, let's start off with Moss. The thing I

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<v Speaker 1>like about him, now, certainly there's been some some footage,

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<v Speaker 1>is that he's had to work through. I certainly had

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<v Speaker 1>that fracture that I think he had to have surgery

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<v Speaker 1>on right after the combine. But what I liked about

0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.520
<v Speaker 1>his short time at L s U is he's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that actually did a lot of the little things right. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He was praised for his block and he was praised

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<v Speaker 1>for his energy, um and then that, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>factor in the fact that you know, he's Randy Moss's kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is one of the greatest physical specimens

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<v Speaker 1>to ever enter the NFL, and he has those bloodlines.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Moss is a hungry guy, man. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's a guy that's going to come in and really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, open a lot of eyes so and and

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<v Speaker 1>not just as a pass catcher like That's the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a tight end. He plays the tight end position,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he really encompasses a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>grit that goes along with that. So I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>see how his story plays out. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>quickly about Commette, though this is my guy. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Cole Commett is going to be a real stud in

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<v Speaker 1>this league. I feel pretty confident about that because so

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<v Speaker 1>many times, Mike, over the years they talk about multi

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<v Speaker 1>sport athletes, you know, they had a diverse back ground

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of their athletic achievements, and Committ is that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a guy that played baseball at Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 1>two in addition to what he did on a football field.

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<v Speaker 1>Six ft six two, arned sixty pounds, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>physical tight end that I think with giving the fact

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<v Speaker 1>and finally concentrating on one sport getting a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>develop those skills at the next level. I can see

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<v Speaker 1>why he's not a first round pick and people aren't

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<v Speaker 1>projecting him in those first thirty two. But in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>this is undoubtedly the top tight end on this year's board.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really interested to see how his story plays on

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Yeah, well, those are positions not just for

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<v Speaker 1>the fantasy football folks, but for a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 1>looking to add those uh, those weapons to their arsenal,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at wide receiver. Like we talked about, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a really deep draft class. Where we will continue with

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<v Speaker 1>our position by position preview series later this week on

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<v Speaker 1>Packers Unscripted. For now, we're going to sign off and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for watching everybody. We will see you next time.