1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: As media from the land. Don't say you hate LA 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: if you ain't been below the ten. One of the 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: truest statements of many true statements that Kendrick Lamar has stated, 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: and most of us who are from LA have made 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: this claim many times. Most people that hate LA have 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: only been to Hollywood. They've never been to La. North 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: of the ten is the freeway, the ten Freeway that 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: anybody else would call the I ten. We don't call 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: our freeway's eye anything. It's the which the strong small 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: piece of history is because our freeways weren't just numbers. 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: They used to be locations. So the ten was the 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: Santa Monica Freeway, the one ten was the Harbor Freeway, 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: the sixty was the Pomona Freeway, so it was named 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: after city, so you'd call it the Harbor, so like 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: now it's the one ten. Anyway, you wouldn't know that 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: because you're not from the land. What do we mean 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: by the land. We're talking about the entire culture. It's 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: not just being born here. It's about embracing the territories 19 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: and jurisdiction thereof, and all that comes with understanding our slang, 20 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: our way of life and all that. And we have 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: no problem naturalizing citizens. Obviously you got to put in 22 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: some work. But what we love and respect is like 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: even if you, even if you rep the land, even 24 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: if you live here, you know where you're from. That 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: can never be taken from you. And that's something that 26 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: we value. And if you know me, and also Sophie, 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: you cut us open, we bleed Los Angeles and Sophie 28 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: is you know, she's from the West Side, but the 29 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: part of the West Side she's from is one that 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: would never, ever, ever, ever, I would ever question her certification. 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: Sophie a real one and although she may not live 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: here now, nothing can take that away from her. But 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: what makes somebody from where they from? I am from 34 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: South Central but I was born at the Fox Hills 35 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: Hospital in Inglewood. But as many times as I've said 36 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: in my music, I'm from the six to six. What 37 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: does that even mean? Six to six is twenty minutes east. 38 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: That's where I grew up. So as far as street terms, yeah, 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: I went to high school in the Inland Empire, lived 40 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: there for a little bit. You would say, are you 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: from where you went to high school? No, because I 42 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: that's not in my soil. It's part of my story 43 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: I am from Los Angeles, can't take that. But how 44 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: long do you have to be somewhere before you can 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: rep it? What do you have to embrace? Like what 46 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: makes you from Why are we? As said in many lyrics, 47 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: at least if I've said West Coast, we get defensive 48 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: about our homeland. Listen, I admitted we are easily offended 49 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: because out of our reputation comes from transplants. Like a 50 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that people don't like about La 51 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: is people that's not from la So that kind of 52 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: bothers us sometimes because it's like, that's you not even 53 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: from here. Yeah, And if you're gonna come here and 54 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: talk trash about it's like, have you even seen Los Angeles? 55 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: You've seen Hollywood talking about the Palisades. You only know 56 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: Alta Dina because it caught on fire. That's the only 57 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: reason you know what that is. So we're very defensive 58 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: about our homeland. But at the same time, if you 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: were born here and left immediately your family packed up, 60 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: you can't help that. Your family packed up, moved to Colorado, 61 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: you grew up there, And if I met you and 62 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: you was Hella Granola, then I would be like, oh, 63 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: you from Denver, and they'd say, well, I was born 64 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: in La. Am I allowed to tell this person they 65 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: not from la that's where they was. That's where you. 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't. That is an immutable unless I 67 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: have a time machine. This fool's from La. Do they 68 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: carry our culture? No, because they wasn't raised in it. 69 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Their home was different. But I can't take that from you. 70 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: It would be ridiculous to say that your citizenship has 71 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: nothing to do with where you were born. We need 72 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: to talk about the history of birthrights, citizenship, the politics, y'all. 73 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: I love this. I love these times where I get 74 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: to do something that I think can be a little 75 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: more evergreen, if you will, meaning I can record this 76 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: at any time. Because of the way that our politics 77 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: is set up, It's going to be relevant for a 78 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: long time, right, and has been relevant for a long time. 79 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: Because we're talking about the fourteenth Amendment. Now here is 80 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: my premise as President Trump so brazenly suggested that we 81 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: need to change the fourteenth Amendment that if your parents 82 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: were here illegally, you are not a citizen no longer, 83 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: no matter where you were born. And I made statements 84 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: about like you need to take this man serious. While 85 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: most of you Internet constitutional scholars are like, it's gonna 86 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: get shut down. It has to get of course they're 87 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: going to shut it. It is a constitution. It's in 88 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: the constitution. You can't you could just not have it 89 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: in the constitution, to which I responded, take him serious, 90 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: And some of my more you know, brunching liberal friends 91 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: shout out, my dog in my group text, Uh, he's 92 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: very calm about this and has evidence, and it did 93 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: happen that the Supreme Court shut it down. But I 94 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: feel like we're dealing with a different animal, which is 95 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: why I want to give you this history here, because 96 00:05:53,839 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: his ever so young sidekick, mister J. D Vance is like, hey, listen, 97 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: if the Supreme Court would tell a general what to do, 98 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: none of us would take that serious, because that's not 99 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: a jurisdiction. If a Supreme Court would tell the attorney 100 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: general what they should prosecute, we would all be like, 101 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: that's an overstep of power. You're not supposed to do that. 102 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: So why are we saying when the president has something 103 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: to say the executive branch, why is that not an 104 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: overstepping of bounds. Now, this logic is essentially a constitutional crisis, 105 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: which we'll talk about later. But they what he's basically 106 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: saying is why does the president have to listen to 107 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: the courts? Now? I need you to pause for a 108 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: second and think about what just came out of my mouth. 109 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: Why does the president have to listen to the courts, 110 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: Because it's the court's job to decide what is say 111 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: it with me constitutional? So if the president decides he 112 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: don't need to listen to the courts, and you saying 113 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't worry about birthfright citizenship because it's in the Constitution, 114 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, paying attention, like you ain't 115 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: been around for the past twenty sixteen and beyond. What 116 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is this man is a different animal. 117 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: But in your defense and for your information, we've been 118 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: here before. Allow me to introduce you to Wong Kim Hart. 119 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: I love this stuff, y'all. Now, before I could take 120 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: you back to San Francisco in May of eighteen ninety six, 121 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: before I could do that, I gotta take you back 122 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: to something that I've taught y'all before, which was the 123 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: dread Scott case, which is where we get the fourteenth Amendment. 124 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of reviewing here because I'm 125 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: still trying to teach y' all something. This is teacher 126 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: prop you feel me, mister Petty, shout out all my 127 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: old students that listen to this show. They grown now. 128 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: But we've talked about how the Supreme Court works. But 129 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: we also talked about specifically this dreg Scott case, and 130 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: the dread Scot case was essentially a slave who got free. 131 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: This was still this was during the separate but equal time. 132 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: This was during the time that well, no, this is 133 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: for separate equal What am I talking about? This is 134 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: during slavery, right, So during this era when the country 135 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: was growing and if a new state came in, for 136 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: every free state there had to be a slave state. 137 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: For every slave state, there had to be a free state. 138 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: For some reason, we have not learned a lesson that 139 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: you cannot play kate racist. Still we ain't learned that. 140 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: But at the time, this is what was going on. Now, Remember, 141 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: the argument, at least the front facing argument of the 142 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: Confederate States, was that the states have rights and that 143 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: the states rights should not be abridged by the federal rights. 144 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: Don't we want a small federal government, y'all? Are just 145 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: there to make sure the paperwork gets pushed through. But 146 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: we carry the rights that we have, and in my rights, 147 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: in my stated segregation now segregation forevil like they you know, 148 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: they trying to keep the they way of life going 149 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: without the encroachment of those city northerners. Right. Well, one 150 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: of these brothers escaped, Dred Scott, and he escaped North. Now, 151 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: when a slave escapes, the owner gets to hire a 152 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: slave hunter, which eventually becomes the police that evolved through 153 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: the police. I wish I was making this stuff up. 154 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: But anyway, this brother gets to a free state. And again, 155 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: since states have rights once you cross these borders, just 156 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: like Mexico said, there's no slavery in Mexico. So if 157 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: a slave gets to Mexico, look up the city of 158 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: Vera Cruz. You know Richie Valens and bad bah Bah, 159 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: go look up that area. Why is it so many 160 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: black people there? Well, besides it being a part of 161 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: the Transatlantic slave trade, if you got there, he was free. 162 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: We've had centuries of solidarity, despite what people may think, 163 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: or even what some of these young folks might say, 164 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: there's been centuries of solidarity among us. Anyway, So Dred 165 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: Scott got got up north, started a business, became a 166 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: family because in the state that he's living, he's free. 167 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: He's been able to dodge these slave hunters. But one 168 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: day the slave hunter found him and was like, hey, 169 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: you're our property. We got to go back. And the 170 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: state he was in was like, what are you talking about. 171 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: They're like, no, no, no, no, no, he escaped from our plantation. 172 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: He is my property. They're like, the fuck he's not. 173 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: This man ain't going nowhere. You whether they were anti 174 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: racists or not, they was like, you don't get to 175 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: tell me what to do in my house. Does that 176 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: make sense. You've ever been in a situation where it's 177 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: like it's not so much that I think you right 178 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: or wrong. I just don't think you get to tell 179 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: me what to do about it. This is what's happening. 180 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: They was like, you don't get to tell us who's 181 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: a citizen and who's not. We have rights, And the 182 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: Southern state was like, we also have rights. I've been 183 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: hired by a person to do a job. This person 184 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: has not been freed. They are still legally the property 185 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: of somebody, saying hold on, hold on, hold hold up, 186 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, let me stop you right there, chief, 187 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: that's according to your state. This man don't live in 188 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: your state. A man run a business here, you got family, 189 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: got you. This man live right there, we shop at 190 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: his stove. He's a citizen of our state. It was like, no, 191 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: he not, yes he is knowing not, yes, he is 192 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: all the way to the Supreme Court. And like I 193 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: told y'all before, it's a lot of times the Supreme 194 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: Court is not really about the case itself. It's about 195 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: the principle of the case. So the principalities the situation 196 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: was who's state laws gets to trump who else's state law. 197 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: At some reason, I don't know why these people did 198 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: not think that this moment was coming, that one of 199 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: these situations was gonna be like that where you have 200 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: to decide between two states that have differing laws. Does 201 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: that sound familiar to you? You ever heard of abortion? 202 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: Are we not dealing with this right now? This is 203 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: why we keep trying to say, Look, we need a 204 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: federal law to calm all this stuff down. So this 205 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: thing goes all the way to the Supreme Court. And 206 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: it's not so much about dread Scott himself. It's about huh, 207 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: whose laws trump who's? And wait, a minute. But is 208 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: a citizen then, because if this person's a citizen, they 209 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: are entitled to certain inalienable rights. I love I love history. 210 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: So the Supreme Court had to be like, oh, I 211 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: don't know, and remember I told you how the Supreme 212 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: Court works. It's a whole gang of what ifs. So 213 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: they shot a ton of one ifs. Who I got 214 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: stuff all in my beer, y'all, ain't say nothing. It's soap. 215 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: I promise I just showered because now I gotta do 216 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: this stuff visually anyway. So they shot a whole lot 217 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: of what ifs. All right, so what what if? This? 218 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: What if this? And eventually the court decided, in typical 219 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: American fashion, dred Scott's gotta go back, so we had 220 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: to go back and be a slave again. So the 221 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: Fourteenth Amendment, after the Civil War and reconstruction was designed 222 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: to fix that, to say, this is absurd. Okay, if 223 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: you are born here within the jurisdiction and territories of 224 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: the United States, you are in fact a citizen. So 225 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: if you are a citizen, you have zero right to 226 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: enslave another citizen. Can we just like, can we what 227 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: are we like? What are we even talking about? That's 228 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: the deal. Now, this is the basis of the conversation 229 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: that we're talking about. Now. Obviously, if you racist, that 230 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: don't sit right with you. There's a part of you 231 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: that feels like we know what we mean when we 232 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: say American, an American citizen, and that feeling has not 233 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: changed because it has traveled all the way through the 234 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five presidential election. They know what they mean 235 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: when they just like the same thing. They know what 236 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: they mean when they say DEI. And it's funny watching 237 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: people saying, oh, man, one hundred and fifty people on 238 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: stage during Kendrick Lamar's performance and not a single white guy. Oh, 239 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: you want diversity, equity and inclusion? Does that feel unfair 240 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: to you. I've seen a picture of a Governor Abbott 241 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: out of Texas in his wheelchair because apparently he hurt 242 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: himself rolling into his office, and I'm like, I wonder 243 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: if he used ramps that were installed because of diversity, 244 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: equity and inclusion. But you know, it's the new hard 245 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: art anyway. The dread Scott K says, this is the 246 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: fourteenth Amendments. All persons born or naturalized in the United 247 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: States and subject to its jurisdiction. There are thereof are 248 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: citizens of the United States and of the state wherein 249 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: they reside. One of those things where it's like, all right, 250 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: clearly we have to stay this. So now we're saying it. 251 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: But that's not what I want to talk about today. 252 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: That's just that's your precursor. You feel me, that's your prequel. 253 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Wong kim arc after this. 254 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: All right, we're back. So wonkim arc a brother from 255 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds, clearly Chinese, born in San Francisco. As 256 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, we had an address, and I'm 257 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: gonna tell you where the address is a little later. 258 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: But why is he so special? Well, let me talk 259 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: to you about him. So Wankim Park was, like I said, 260 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: born in San Francisco. But he became the subject of 261 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: what's called a test case in eighteen ninety six. What 262 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: is this test case? It's a test case about the 263 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: fourteenth Amendment. Now, have you ever been the test case 264 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: of something? It really don't feel good. You ever been 265 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: in a situation where a bunch of y'all have done 266 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of things, but you're the one that gotten 267 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: So they just want to see you feel me, right, Yeah, 268 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: it's just that that's awful. I've been the test case 269 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: a few times where it's like, well, let me just 270 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: let me see how serious we are about this a 271 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: test case, right, And a lot of times it's the 272 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: luck of the draw because you have to again remember 273 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: that the Supreme Court is not dealing in their brain. 274 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: It's not humans we talk about. We're talking about abstract 275 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: concepts of the laws. So the persons involved in these 276 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: things really are besides the point to them, which is 277 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: why they seem so heartless. But if you can find 278 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice that understands the humanity of it all, 279 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: you win it. Anyway, I'm gonna tell you his whole narrative, 280 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna cut to the beginning of the scene 281 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: because I think the scenes the movie should start with 282 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: this moment. It's been a three month journey, no yeah, 283 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: three months, yeah, no, no no, It takes about a month 284 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: a month journey coming back from China. This brother is 285 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: a cook. He got it out the mud. He was 286 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: back in China visiting his parents and his newly found wife. 287 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: And like every every immigrant story, you know, you you 288 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: grind away, you know, you send money back. You know 289 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Try to support the family, try to 290 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: support yourself, to try to make trying to make ends meet. 291 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: Get your weight up, get your lady here, have a 292 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: great life, right She his wife is from China, which 293 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: I'll talk about later. But he again was born in 294 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: San Francisco, but he was going back and forth, so 295 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: obviously he speaks the language, he understands the culture. He's 296 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: doing a cancer and because he lives in Chinatown, a 297 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: lot of his cultural sort of presentation, it's Chinese because 298 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: of segregation. I'll talk about later. And while he was gone, 299 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: something crazy happened in America, but he don't know that yet. 300 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: He gets to the port, pulls out his papers and 301 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: he's like, all right, what's up y'all doing. I'm glad 302 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: to be back. I've been gone for a while. I'm 303 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: glad to be here. They was like, hold up, cuz 304 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: where you going? And he was like, I'm going home. 305 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: They was like, uh, are you a sit He's like, 306 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: what the hell you talking about? Pulls out his papers, right, 307 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: So he pulls out his papers and get this. About 308 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: the papers, he kind of knew this was coming because 309 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: you gotta go get it all notary republic, you know, 310 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: to prove that you are who you say you are. 311 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: So just like a leftover from slavery, about three slaves 312 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: had to show them them papers. Basically, if anybody that 313 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: don't look American, wink wink, you need to carry papers. 314 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: So he carrying papers, and those papers have to be 315 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: certified by get this, three white witnesses, because that'll stand 316 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: up in the court of law. That'll prove that he 317 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: was born where he said, Yes, I grew up with homeboy. 318 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: I've seen him over there. You know here it is, 319 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm from here. But what was happening in the team 320 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: the time that he left to go see his girl 321 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: and came back with something called the Chinese Exclusion Act. Now, 322 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: let me put you on some game. If you don't 323 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: know what the Chinese Exclusion Act is, I'm gonna read 324 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: from the National Archives. The Chinese Exclusion Act was approved 325 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: on May sixth, eighteen eighty two. It was the first 326 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: significant law restricting immigration into the United States. In the 327 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: spring of eighteen eighty two, the Chinese Exclusion Act was 328 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: passed by Congress and signed by President Chester A. Arthur 329 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: Have you even heard of that? President? The act provided 330 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: watch this an absolute ten year ban on Chinese laborers 331 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: immigrating into the United States. For the first time, federal 332 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: law prescribed entry of an ethnic working group on the 333 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: premise that it endangered the good order of certain localities. 334 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: This happened while he was gone. The government decided, let 335 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: me tell you what's wrong wal racism. Back it up 336 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: a little bit, because a few decades ago, y'all was 337 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: loving the Chinese coming. Now why was they loving the 338 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: Chinese coming? As we know, the Chinese were the people 339 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: that ended up building our railroad, syst doing a lot 340 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: of the hard work, opening up our laundries. They did 341 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: all that good stuff. Now why you think that happened? Nigga? 342 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: They freed the niggers because, well, we can't make the 343 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: niggers work, so we gotta find somebody else to work. 344 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: It seemed to me like what I'm learning is because 345 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: after this happened, Now, does this sound familiar to you? 346 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: Because who're doing our work now? The Mexicans. Right, It 347 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: seemed to me like Americans just don't like to work, 348 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: Like y'all, Just why you keep bringing other people to 349 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: do the work and then complaining you ain't got no 350 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: work because what happened. What had happened was America decided, Okay, 351 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: it's too many of y'all. It's too many of y'all. 352 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: Like I it's all like look at it, y'all gotta go, 353 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: and don't be bringing no mo. Doug like, don't don't 354 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: be bringing no mo Chinese. Chinese. My grandma used to 355 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: say that. She used to say Chinese. I'll be like, Grandma, 356 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: you can't. I mean she oh this heid obviously, but 357 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: she was like, yes, I'm gonna go get Chinese food. Now, 358 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm like Grandma, She'd like what she give you that look? 359 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: And I'm like I can't correct her. Anyway, this happened 360 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: while he was gone, So they looking at him like 361 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: are you a laborer? He's like, yeah, I'm a laborer, 362 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: but I'm a citizen. They was like, I don't know 363 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: about that. Chief, wait right here. So he sat there 364 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: and waited. Now, even though he had the paperwork, that 365 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: basically is like, yo, who's man? Is this your boy? Hey? 366 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: Who know? Cuz they have to ask white people, Hey 367 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: do you know cus this is ridiculous, But this was 368 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: our laws people. They was like, we don't know if 369 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: you're a citizen he like, I got the white boys 370 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: to proprove it. I live I can see my house. 371 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: I live right there. And not only do I live 372 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: right there, fam I was born right there. I have 373 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: never moved. I've never applied for no citizenship nowhere else. 374 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: There's no confusion on no paperwork. My wife is still 375 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: in China. I like, I don't understand what the problem is. 376 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: I say this to say, just because some'm in the constitution, 377 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: don't think for one second that you really protected if 378 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: you got a little Meloni is all I'm trying to say. 379 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: This is why I'm bringing this up. We have been 380 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: here before, the challenge of birthright citizenships. Now in this moment, 381 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: this thing goes all the way to the Supreme Court. Now, 382 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: why they picked this is because they're like, wait a minute, 383 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: we need to we need to stress test this law. 384 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: And like I said, the way the Supreme Court works, 385 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: when there is something on the books, you need to 386 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: make sure I'm gonna stretch this as far and as 387 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: absurdly as I possibly can, because I'll need to see 388 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: where it breaks. I need to see the edges. Now, Conceptually, 389 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: like I said, this is actually a great practice because 390 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: that's how you know, if a law is written well 391 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: or is good is once you start throwing absurdities at it, 392 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: if it still stands, if you could take it, then 393 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 1: it's good. It's the same with people and rappers. Some 394 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: rappers can't take the heat. They get on stage with 395 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: fake bullet holes coming out their shirts. Oh man. So 396 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: the Chinese Exclusion Act was like, look, man, you can't 397 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: come if you're a laborer. He's like, Nigga, I was 398 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: born here. They was like, you don't look like you 399 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: was born here. You look like a Chinese. You talk 400 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 1: like a Chinese, to which he could probably be like, 401 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm from Chinatown, But what the hell difference does that 402 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: have make? I'm born right there? Like, and when I 403 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: say right there, I mean literally seven fifty one Sacramento 404 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: Street in Chinatown. You can go now, it's a little school. Now. 405 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: It's a little school now, but it's there's a plat like, 406 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: it's right, you can go to it. I'm born right here. Now. 407 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: These are not the only laws that existed at this 408 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: time that were designed to make sure that nobody else 409 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: succeeds but white people. There was the Page Act, which 410 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: barred Chinese win except for the wives of merchants from 411 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: entering the United States, which is why this man's wife 412 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: was still in China, so he can't even bring her here. Right. 413 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: There's also the Geary Act, which required all Chinese immigrants 414 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: to constantly walk with identification papers kind of like breed slaves, 415 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: kind of like immigrants and green cards. There is any 416 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: of this sounding familiar to you, So anyway, let me 417 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: give you a little more background of him, right, So 418 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: that's where the camera starts right here, right, So here's 419 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: some background. So again, as he says, he was born 420 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: on like the living room floor in what is now 421 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: a school, but it used to be like a little 422 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: store with an apartment on top of it, a store 423 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: that his parents ran, right, seven to fifty one, Sacramento 424 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: a f right, So so he was born there and 425 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: just like that, like if your parents come from another country, 426 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: every once in a while, y'all go back, right, So 427 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: he goes back one time when he was a his 428 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: parents go back and they decide to stay. So then 429 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: he comes back because again, can't stress this enough, he's 430 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: an American. So he comes back to SF again, lived here, 431 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: worked for his uncle. You know, al Vanas did what 432 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 1: he had to do. He worked there did He had 433 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: to do it till he was about twenty, in which 434 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: case he was getting a little lonely. He needed him 435 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: a trying to find him a lady. Friend. Now, because 436 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: of anti missigenation laws. You ever heard that word. It's 437 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: because it used to be illegal to marry outside joe race. 438 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: So because of anti misigenation laws. And you think this 439 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: is just the eighteen hundreds, let me tell you something. 440 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: It's only been the past sixty years, seventy years now. 441 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: It's very recent the way I like to think of 442 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: it as like this. You know, Michael Jordan when he 443 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: was in kindergarten, he couldn't marry a white lady anyway, 444 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: since race mixing was illegal, and because Chinese women wasn't 445 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: even allowed to come. It just wasn't a lot of 446 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: Chinese girls here. Those are his only choices. It's slim pickings. 447 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: So he has to cross the salt, you know, the ocean, 448 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: another one month travel, which I honestly cannot imagine. I 449 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: don't think I go anywhere. Took a month to get there. 450 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm good anyway, finds a lady since she can't come 451 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: because he's not a merchant, you know, he has to 452 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: go back and forth sending money doing these You know, 453 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: it's a hard life. I don't know if you know 454 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: any immigrants, it's really a hard life. My own in 455 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: laws like the choices that my mother in law, my 456 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: swaged I had to make in reference to her own children. 457 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: You know, my wife was It's in her book, So 458 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't feel bad about saying this. But you know, 459 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: she was born here literally Boyle Heights, you know, and 460 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: then lived in Mexico and Acapoco till about fourth grade, 461 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: and then one by one, her mom so for a 462 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: long time she didn't live with her siblings. You know, 463 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: she the siblings came one by one right back to 464 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: America as her mom can afford it. She lived with her, 465 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: like she lived with her grandma in Mexico, and then 466 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: one by one her mom was able to bring her 467 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: and like, I just don't know. I honestly, I know 468 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't have a fortitude for that, to send my 469 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: kids to go live. Nah, I'm good unless the situation 470 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: back home is that desperate you feel me that, I'm like, 471 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: I have to get my kids out of this life. 472 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: I've been to where my wife's from. Now I'm going 473 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: as someone who is from a fully developed first world country, 474 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: even though I'm black. So there's that. But I'm looking 475 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: at this place like this is a tropical paradise. It's 476 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: southern Mexico. It's right at the coast of Chica. Like 477 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: it's freaking beautiful. Acapulco is be uta ful. But as 478 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: you go, as you're there, you realize what is her 479 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: best options If she stays here, run a grocery store, 480 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: hold a have a cart on the beach, sell the tourist, 481 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: like there's there's unless you're gonna go be one of 482 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: your ancestors and exists in the forest. There's really no 483 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: what do you I get it. You're like, there's nothing here, 484 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: there's nothing, like we've maxed out, there's nothing here. I 485 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: don't want my kids to do what I did, which 486 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: was nothing. Let's roll now. I don't mean that derogatory 487 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: because she had one of her uncles that was a doctor, 488 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: Like there are It's not like it's not like you 489 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: couldn't go to college and you know what I'm saying, 490 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: but just the chances, the opportunities. I get it. Now, 491 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: it's like, y'all, we gotta we gotta go and It's like, 492 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: it's just my sister's there, so I'm going to go 493 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: get it out the mud and bring my children here. 494 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's an amazing thing. My father in law, 495 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: like he was selling little fruits in downtown, you know, 496 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: Mexico City, little fruit cups, and as an eighth grader, 497 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: fam this can't be it, Joe said, I get it, 498 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So anyway, he's send him 499 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: back and forth, you know, making money, figuring it out, 500 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: doing he got to do, going back and forth, seeing 501 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: his lady come back. Because again, I don't know how 502 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: else to say this, he's not a Chinese citizen. He's 503 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: an American. He can't stay in China. He's an American. 504 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: So this was his life. So he gets there. This 505 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: situation tells me who he is. He's sitting there and 506 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: basically the answer was this. Now, if this ain't Dajavu, 507 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what is the basic argument as to 508 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: why they won't let this man off this boat and 509 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: he got to stay in this limbo is if your 510 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: parents are not citizens, even if you were born in 511 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: the US, you are not a citizen of the United States, 512 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: and you are barred from entry or deported from the 513 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: United States, does this This is the eighteen nineties. This 514 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: is the eighteen nineties. So let me tell you what 515 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: happened after that. Next so we're back. So what's the situation. 516 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: The man is just stuck on this boat. There ain't 517 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: nothing he could do, right, he just he's just a 518 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: he's just a cook, like he's not breaded up. But 519 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: here's what happens. The word gets out because again I 520 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: don't know how else to say this, it's from San Francisco. 521 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: People were expecting him. So there's an entire community that 522 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: is waiting to see their homeboy. I just why. I 523 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: don't understand what y'all don't understand about this. And one 524 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: thing that segregationists do not understand is that when you 525 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: force us to live together, we form bonds, we form solidarity, 526 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: We learn to look out for each other. There's one 527 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: thing that I would say that I in some ways 528 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: envy an experience my parents had. Now, obviously the situation 529 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: is much different, but my father went to an all 530 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: black high school. So with that, there is a certain 531 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: type of solidarity among your community that while I am 532 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: completely grateful, unbelievably grateful for the multicultural raising I've had. 533 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: I feel like it's made me a global citizen in 534 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: a way that a lot of people don't have. Stratification, 535 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: the full experience of what it means to have a 536 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: community that loves you and has shared your experience is 537 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: something that I don't have. Because if you go to 538 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: a black school, that means you got a black principal, 539 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: you got black teachers, the janitor, the mayor, everybody in 540 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: your experience from every socio economics stratus is black. You seeing, 541 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: you have full representation. You are seeing your world on display, educated, uneducated, 542 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: right worker, white collar, blue collar. You're seeing it all 543 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: because you live. We were forced to do this right. Obviously, 544 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: the situation is awful, but that meant that, Like, although 545 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: I can remember moments where I'm like, oh yeah, you know, 546 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: Ms Rose down the street, braid of my sister's hair, 547 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, You have a bunch of 548 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: different parents. So the guy that runs the corner store, 549 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: mister Johnson, when I see Missy, how you doing, mister Johnson? 550 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,239 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, there's a community that 551 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: comes with and he understands what it's like to be 552 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: a little black boy. My mother, my father. They had that. 553 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 1: Now I had it in my own way, but it 554 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: was like black and Latin, you know. Either way. The 555 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make is when what segregation is 556 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: still don't get is that this is how we organize 557 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: against your system. Because organized they did. Think you think 558 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: they just gonna lead a homeboy on that vote. You 559 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: think he don't know nobody with power. So the word 560 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: gets out and six wealthy Chinese companies are like, oh no, 561 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna fight for you. They pulled their 562 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: money together and they got him a case and they 563 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: took it to the courts. They was like, this man's 564 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: a citizen. Now, why would they do that? Because when 565 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: you live in solidarity and when you live with each other, 566 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: you understand that if it could happen to him, it 567 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: could happen to us, which is I'm hold my tongue here. 568 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: I just don't understand how anyone could vote against the 569 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: best interests of their entire community in exchange for their 570 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: own goodness. I just I don't get it, because again, 571 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: if it can happen to them, it could happen to you. 572 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: And on top of that, fuck y'all. That's my own boy. 573 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 1: That's my dog. I don't even care if he's wrong. 574 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: He with us? Who man's with this? He with us? 575 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: You got a problem with it? I got the bread 576 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: some of that's some street stuff too, Like y'all following me. 577 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: Man Like, even if my little homy mouth full, like 578 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: I said, you don't get to tell me what to do. 579 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: It's the same prime even if he wrong, y'all don't 580 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: get to say it. And look, I got the education, 581 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: I got the bread. You ain't finna look at I'm 582 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: off this boat. I don't care how bad. I don't 583 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: care how bad my accent is either. That's what I 584 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: love about this moment. These are wealthy Chinese people, so 585 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: they probably speak with a heavy accident. But that man, 586 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: that's just working the borders. You just pole, little white boy. 587 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: So you may't have these things you saying about them, 588 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: But these men is like, listen, he can't go all right. 589 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: Bet so he posts a two hundred fifty dollars bill, 590 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: which clearly didn't have and they thought at that time 591 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: that's like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Them ridged 592 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: Chinese folks, was like, you need a check. I love 593 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: it I love it. So this mug goes to the courts, 594 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: goes all the way to the Supreme Court, and guess 595 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: what happens. I ain't gonna tell you. I'm just kidding, 596 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: of course, I'm gonna tell you. So we in the courts, 597 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: and he fought it based on the Fourteenth Amendment. Because 598 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: you just said, according to you, would you like me 599 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: to scroll up on my notes, you could see me 600 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: scroll up on my notes to read to you the 601 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: fourteenth Amendment again, I'm gonna do that for you. The 602 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: Fourteenth Amendment all persons born and naturalized in the United 603 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: States and subject to its jurisdiction thereof is, citizens of 604 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: the United States and the state for which they reside. Fool, 605 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: that's your law. That's what they fought on. I don't 606 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: understand what you're talking about. Where was this man born 607 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: in San Francisco? What is your argument? What are we 608 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: talking about here? Did he win? I don't know. I'm 609 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: gonna tell you in a minute. But the court went crazy. 610 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: It lasted for a while, There was many appeals, which 611 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: is the okay, that's the reveal. He won, But he 612 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: didn't get to get off the boat yet. The only 613 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: reason he was off. The boat was because he made bail. 614 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: But case wasn't over because for some reason about white people, 615 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: especially white races, they don't take too well for losing. 616 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: I feel like they still why is Obama still get 617 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: brought up because they still mad that a nigger was 618 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: in the office. Like, I don't understand why y'all still 619 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: talk about that man, that man with zero scandals, a 620 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: husband or one wife, with extremely successful children. What is 621 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: your problem with him? I think we know? So how 622 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: could the courts have any leg to stand on to 623 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: say that this man's born here, he's not a citizen. 624 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: How could that make sense in any way all the 625 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: way to the Supreme Court? And why would the Supreme 626 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: Court take this case? It's because they have a chance 627 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: to be like again, Okay, now, actually this is interesting. 628 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: Your argument is, well, his parents aren't born here, so 629 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: he's not Okay, we got time talk to me nice now. 630 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: None of this mattered until white people got involved. As 631 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: far as at the k of course, the court level 632 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: right and what the argument against him went like this, 633 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: The fourteenth Amendment has some caveats, and the caveat one 634 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: is about Native Americans. Obviously, because none of this can 635 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 1: count towards them. They're clearly here, you were here before us, right, 636 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: But it kind of works like this, this where the 637 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: race has got to dance. Actually in the brief, this 638 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: is from the brief that like the fourteenth Amendment argues 639 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: guarantees the citizens to all of those born in the 640 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: United States. But it's got an asterisk. It's got a caveat, right, 641 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: and the caveat is those who are born in the 642 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,959 Speaker 1: United States who are subject to it. It's jurisdiction, born 643 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: here and subject to its jurisdiction. Well, what he's saying 644 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: is jurisdiction can be two types. Your authority what like, 645 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: who do you who is your og of? What range 646 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: do you exist on? Let me talk to y'all. Let 647 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: me talk to y'all LA folk about Pomona's Pomona in 648 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: La or the Inland Empire? What jurisdiction where you're like, Well, 649 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: it's La County. It's the last city in La County. 650 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: No Claremont. Is is it l A or is it 651 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: i E? Well it's the nine on nine. Well, the 652 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: nine on nine is the IE. What's what's what is 653 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: it subject to its jurisdiction? What is its culture? It's 654 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: culture is very LA. But then again, so is Ontario. 655 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: But Ontario is the ie. Nobody questions if Ontario is 656 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: the I E. What is jurisdiction territorial and political? Let 657 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: me translate this for you. You was born in La, 658 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: but you act on New Yorky you real easty. Well 659 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: that's because you was born here, but your mama from 660 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: the Bronx, so you talk like yo mama. Or you 661 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: was born here, but you packed up and moved to 662 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: New York, so you got a real easty year son. 663 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: You walk around here at Thames, we like LA won't 664 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: wear tams oh Man. I was raised in New York 665 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, so, then you not from La. He's like, no, 666 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm from La. Nigga, know you not? You are not 667 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 1: subject to its territorial and political jurisdiction. You chose Drake 668 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: my nigga. You ain't from no La. How you from La. 669 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: You ain't being below the ten. You are not subject 670 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: to its jurisdiction. So their argument is these people, his 671 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: family and in turn him, clearly are subject to the 672 00:40:54,320 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: jurisdiction of the Chinese emperor. This man is culturally Chinese, 673 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: he dressed like it. He sound like you look like 674 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: a Chinese. So no matter where he was born, he 675 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: is not also subject to our jurisdiction. He is politically 676 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: and culturally Chinese. Therefore he is Chinese. So we can't 677 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: so yeah, like he I can't call him a citizen 678 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: according to the fourtheen Amendment because the fourteenth Amendment has 679 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: a caveat. So what is he saying? You know what 680 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: he's saying? He don't act white. You don't act white. 681 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: You don't act like us. You know, you ain't never 682 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: crip walked, You ain't never you you ain't like us, 683 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: you got accent. Therefore you can't possibly be Is this 684 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: sundy familiar? He is subject to the jurisdiction and the 685 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: territorial allegiance to the Chinese. Therefore he cannot possibly be 686 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: an American. We obviously don't own a time machine and 687 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: have not. This is an interesting part. We can't move 688 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: back in time and prove that he was not born 689 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: here because, like I said, three white people agreed that 690 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: he was born here. So I can't argue that one. 691 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: But I can argue he's not subject to our jurisdiction. 692 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: And now it was Wong's lawyer's terms. And do you 693 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: know what they said in defense when it translated to you, 694 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: for you who are not watching but are listening, I 695 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: just put my hand, you know, when you put your finger. 696 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: You know when when your significant other is obviously lying 697 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: and you just want to hear the rest of the story, 698 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: so you put your finger. You know, you kind of 699 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: got a ball fist with a thumb up under your 700 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: chin and your finger on the side, and you're just 701 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: looking at him, just about like trying to figure out 702 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: if this person knows how dumb they sound like if 703 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: you and you're just like, I can't believe you said 704 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: that with a straight face. You are dead serious, ain't you? 705 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: Their defense? Was this the dumbest shit ever heard in 706 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: my life? Is their defense? What are you talking about? 707 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 1: We went through this with the black codes when y'all 708 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: said a person can't vote unless they grandparents could vote. 709 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: Do you think the States did the course didn't understand 710 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: what you were saying. This is ridiculous. And furthermore, they said, 711 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: do you know how many Europeans got here? Hell, we 712 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,479 Speaker 1: haven't even got to the future of the Homestead Act, 713 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: which brought a bunch of Europeans here to fill out 714 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: the West. I've already did an episode on a Homestead 715 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: Act when the government was giving handouts to poor white people. 716 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: Government and handouts so that they could build wealth. I'm 717 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: telling you, I can't make this shit up. So if 718 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: this is the case, if the sons and daughters of 719 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: Chinese citizens are not citizens, what of the sons and 720 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: daughters of the English, the Irish, the Germans, the French, 721 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: the people have come to the United States. If he 722 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: ain't a citizen, they ain't a citizen. If that man 723 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: ain't a citizen according to your laws, George Washington, ain't 724 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: a citizen. What the hell are you talking about? And 725 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. 726 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: Do it start with your mama? Okay, So if my 727 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: parents weren't citizens, then that means I'm not okay. What 728 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: about my grandparents? Well, if my grandparents weren't citizens, then 729 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: that would mean that my parents ain't citizens, which would 730 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: mean that even though they was born here, I'm not 731 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: a citizen. Now check this out. What if it was 732 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: my great grandparents, what are immigrants? Then that would mean 733 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: to them two non citizens gave a birth to a 734 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: non citizen, who gave birth to a non citizen who 735 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: gave birth to me? What are you talking about? That 736 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: means that no one's a citizen? Dumbass was the argument 737 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 1: that Chinese made. The fuck are you talking about? Well, 738 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: if you got here illegally and you're a child, your 739 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: parents got here illegally and they gave birth and neither 740 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: of you are citizens, what the okay? Then I need 741 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: you to dig up every relative, every ancestory you had. 742 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 1: I need you. And if you find a single person, 743 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 1: then that means that all of the descendants ain't citizens either. 744 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: You gonna go You're gonna do that? How many people 745 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: getting how many people getting deported? Do you not gonna 746 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: do that? Have a tall glass of horse shot? The 747 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: fuck up, oh man, And guess what the court said, touche, 748 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: you are absolutely correct, and birthright citizenship stood that stress test. 749 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: Now that was eighteen ninety six. Now, that pole man, 750 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: that poor man Wan kim Ark was on that boat 751 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: for four months till he was finally able to just 752 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: go back home. And what did he go back home? To? Poverty? 753 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: His wife still in China. And I don't know enough 754 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: of the story to know if he continued to go 755 00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: visit his wife, because like most immigrants, be scared to 756 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: leave because apparently the system hasn't figured out who's protected 757 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: and who's not. So yeah, Trump's talking about birthright citizenship 758 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: right now. We've been here before, and praise the Lord 759 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: God Almighty, Hallelujah, the highest praise Shondo it worked or 760 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: we stood the stress test. I just don't know if 761 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna stand it again. Betch I'm from the land. 762 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: Don't say you hey la if you ain't been below 763 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 1: the ten all right now, don't you hit stop on 764 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 1: this pod. You better listen to these credits. I need 765 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: you to finish this thing so I can get the 766 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 1: download numbers. 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He got more music and 777 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: stuff like that on there, so gonna check out. The 778 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: Heat Politics is a member of cool Zone Media, Executive 779 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: produced by Sophie Lichterman, part of the iHeartMedia podcast network. 780 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: Your theme music and scoring is also by the one 781 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 1: and overly Mattowsowski. Still killing the beat softly, so listen. 782 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: Don't let nobody lie to you. If you understand urban living, 783 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: you understand pop po ittics. These people is not smarter 784 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: than you. We'll see y'all next week. M