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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too. It is our number two of the drive

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Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio. Into the phone lines we

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Speaker 2: go to talk to Bob Labriola, of course, the Dean

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Speaker 2: of Doom, the lord of living in his fears, Steelers historian,

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Speaker 2: all around swell guy, Labs. Thanks for taking the time.

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Speaker 2: As always, we've missed you these last couple weeks with

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Speaker 2: some holidays getting in the way of our Thursday conversations.

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Speaker 2: But good to have you back into the fold here,

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Speaker 2: obviously at a very exciting time. Labs, you have I

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Speaker 2: think a better scope of Steeler's history than just about

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Speaker 2: anybody doing this. So I wanted to ask you about

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Speaker 2: that win over the Ravens Sunday night. I've been saying,

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Speaker 2: you know that that's time capsule, instant classic stuff. That's

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Speaker 2: kind of what Matt and I have been saying all week.

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Speaker 2: Is that too much?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: For an organization that has six Super Bowls and so

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Speaker 2: much history, does a regular season game belong in the

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Speaker 2: time capsule? Even one? You know that that feels as

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Speaker 2: special as that. Is that going too far or is

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Speaker 2: that fair to say with what you witnessed on Sunday

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Speaker 2: evening and labs.

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Speaker 4: I was down at the facility today and there's a

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Speaker 4: bunch of people saying they thought that was the second

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Speaker 4: best Raven Steeler game ever.

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Speaker 3: Was like, wow, well, I was gonna I was gonna

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Speaker 3: put it up there, you know you uh, First, first

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Speaker 3: of all, the best Raven Steelers game ever was the

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Speaker 3: two thousand and eight AFC Championship.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I agree for.

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Speaker 3: The stakes and also for the violent nature of the game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was a lot of hard hitting. I

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Speaker 3: believe to this day that that is was the impetus

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Speaker 3: for the NFL's player safety initiative.

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Speaker 4: You've said that before and resonated with me. I think

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Speaker 4: you're right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just the way it ended. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Willis mcgahey laid out like that, It's a clean hit,

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Speaker 3: it was legal. I just I just think that, you know,

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Speaker 3: the league watched at it. They didn't act on it immediately,

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Speaker 3: but I think that you know, that was a game

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Speaker 3: that certainly that the national media in attendance. You know,

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Speaker 3: it was just just the fact that it was for

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Speaker 3: a spot in the Super Bowl. It was very well attended,

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Speaker 3: very watched, watched over and over and over again, and

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Speaker 3: I just you know, think that that that's what became

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Speaker 3: of it in that way. I would rate Sunday or yeah,

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Speaker 3: Sunday Nights game as the second most significant missfield goal

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Speaker 3: and steal his franchise history, the first being Vander Jett.

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Speaker 3: And you know, five divisional round And I would put

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Speaker 3: you know, because the last Sunday Night Steelers Ravens game

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Speaker 3: was winner take all. You know, there have been Steelers

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Speaker 3: Ravens games late in the season where you know, the

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Speaker 3: winner could like, for example, the Christmas Day game, the

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Speaker 3: Immaculate Extension Antonio Brown. The Steelers won that game, they

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Speaker 3: clinched the division and they also eliminated the Ravens. Now,

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Speaker 3: what's different about last Sunday Night to me is if

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Speaker 3: the Steelers didn't win that Christmas Day game, they weren't eliminated.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So so just you know, the winner take all aspect

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Speaker 3: of it, I think puts it, you know, up there

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Speaker 3: really high on the list in that series. You know,

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Speaker 3: you had those three big plays in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: you know, the missfield goal that all set up by

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Speaker 3: you know, so yeah, I'm putting it up there. I

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Speaker 3: I would say after the two thousand and eight AFC

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Speaker 4: I get it. Do you have any theory on this

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Speaker 4: ridiculous streak on Monday nights? I mean both Tomlin, I

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Speaker 4: better coach than most when given extra rest, So I

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Speaker 4: think there's something for that. But I mean, Labs, the

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Speaker 4: last time they lost at home on Monday night, I

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Speaker 4: has to That can't be a fluke.

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Speaker 3: You know, No, it can't be, because you know, you look,

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Speaker 3: you look at some of the you know some of

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Speaker 3: the statistics. You know, the Steelers they're winning percentage at

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Speaker 3: home all time on Monday Night football starting in nineteen

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Speaker 4: And they don't schedule bad teams for Monday Night opponents.

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Speaker 3: Usually they do not, right, Sometimes it ends up that way,

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Speaker 3: you know, late November, December, and one team or another

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Speaker 3: doesn't live up to expectations. But no, certainly, when Monday

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Speaker 3: Night Football began, that was a showcase game, and being

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Speaker 3: you know, so to speak. So no, I can't explain it,

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Speaker 3: but it is. It's been going on too long for

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Speaker 4: Pretty funny, Yes it is. And I know that our

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Speaker 4: fan base here in Pittsburgh is tremendous, But I don't

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Speaker 4: know that it's that great, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean yeah, I think you know, noise is

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Speaker 3: I mean, these, especially as this has evolved a couple

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Speaker 3: get around it. So yeah, I I just hope it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, labs, I feel like we've been saying all season

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Speaker 2: that you know, Cam Hayward and aging like a fine wine.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting to the point though, where I'm ready to

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Speaker 2: reverse that and start saying that fine wine ages like

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Speaker 2: Cam Hayward. I mean, my goodness, best play on the

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Speaker 2: played more snaps than any interior defensive lineman in the

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Speaker 2: it really feels like with Cam is the spearhead that

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Speaker 2: defensive front for the Steelers is hitting their stride at

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Speaker 2: the right time. They've finally gotten some reprieve in the

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Speaker 2: time of possession game that has gone the Steelers way

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Speaker 2: the last month month and a half. I'm feeling really

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Speaker 2: good about the Steelers in both both sides of the trenches,

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Speaker 2: I think, but particularly on defense and and mostly because

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Speaker 2: of the current form of the captain, Cam Hayward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know, Cam is certainly leading the way

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Speaker 3: I also think, you know, one one of the things,

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Speaker 3: down the field, Yeah, right, was it? Thirty yards down

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Speaker 3: the field chasing Derrick Henry. First of all, defensive linemen

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Speaker 3: looked at it in another way, it was it was

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Speaker 4: So, speaking of lines and big people, are you in

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Speaker 3: They're playing pretty well.

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Speaker 3: I do really like how they have incorporated the jumbo

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Speaker 3: ir But yeah, I think that this group has improved

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Speaker 3: I don't know that this is you know, if this

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Speaker 3: guy making a march to a Pro Bowl. Berth, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, we'll find that out over the course of time.

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Speaker 3: But Filetan, who has played well, he is getting better.

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Speaker 3: Mason McCormick, there were some times where in my untrained eye,

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Speaker 3: verified well. Certainly as a six round pick. It's it's

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Speaker 3: not like, you know, he came in with a lot

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Speaker 3: Sam Malhu coming back is a huge Zach Frasier, I

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and some of the part seems to be

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Speaker 4: working together too, Yes, yeah, yeah, And.

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Speaker 2: Two more segments to go, still plenty to get to Matt.

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Speaker 2: Another one of these kind of global heading into the

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Speaker 2: But where yesterday we ranked the top fourteen quarterbacks, will

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Speaker 2: You had the good idea, let's do this for defenses too.

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Speaker 4: I haven't been I like doing them organically. Okay, you know,

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Speaker 2: I loved him coming out of Utah, Okay, and you

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Speaker 4: don't know, like Milton Williams, is he coming back?

438
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 2: And you know this typically drives me nuts. Yes, I

439
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: kind of held this against the Bears a little bit too.

440
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: I normally hate it when people are like, yeah, but

441
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 2: the Bears didn't play anybody. Yeah, but the Patriots didn't

442
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: play anybody. It's, as I always tell you, it's not

443
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 2: Ohio State against Akron. Okay, this is the National Football League. Yeah,

444
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: the man Compared to a lot of these teams, did

445
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 2: the Patriots have a pretty easy schedule.

446
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 4: I hear that against May a little bit the other

447
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 4: day too.

448
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: And their scoring defense is really good in New England, Yes,

449
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: which is kind of Hey, if you've got a great

450
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: scoring defense, does anything else matter? But I don't know,

451
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: I'm a little worried it might catch up to them.

452
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: They also gave up a ton of total touchdowns did

453
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 2: the Patriots like way more than any of these other defenses.

454
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 4: You mentioned the red zone stuff?

455
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: Red zone stuff is real bad, which I think in

456
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: the playoffs is is that that you know, those margins

457
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 2: that Minutia shrinks and shrinks.

458
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: And truss So they're definitely the bottom two. I prefer

459
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 4: the Patriots to the Bills. Okay, My problem with the

460
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 4: Bills is their run defense is bad and it has

461
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 4: been all year. And this is no I mean, they're

462
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 4: fortunate that there's such such a good running team that

463
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 4: they can they don't get killed in time and possession

464
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: because they are good at it as equal as they

465
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: are bad at you know, defending the run. They don't

466
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 4: the Bills. Who's the difference makers?

467
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: Like that's a that's a great point.

468
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 4: Like the name guys are all pastor prime, you know,

469
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 4: the the Bosas and Whites and Milano's and those dudes

470
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 4: like who scares you on that defense? Very few away

471
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 4: with you on that? Like I like Rousseau but I

472
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 4: mean he's not Miles Garrett, so he's not TJ. I

473
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 4: mean he's a good player, So I just don't see

474
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 4: difference makers closers on that side.

475
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 3: Of the ball.

476
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 4: Like I, Bills in general have some issues that Allen

477
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: masks quite a bit. So that leaves us if those

478
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: two to the bottom, Chargers, then is it Chargers and

479
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: Steelers fighting for four and five? Yes, I would take

480
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 4: Steeers over Chargers.

481
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: I think so too. Yeah, I think so too.

482
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 4: Especially because recently that's yeah, well, it.

483
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: Feels like none that the Chargers defense has been terrible,

484
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 2: but it seems like the Steelers is really rounded into form.

485
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: If this was when the Steelers played the Chargers, I

486
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: probably take the Chargers, you know, but at this point

487
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: I think the Steelers d is I'm on board?

488
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 2: Yes, I am with you. Do you want to do

489
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: the one through fourteen real quick? Overall? Total, Here's what

490
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: I had starting from the top, Houston, Seattle, Eagles, Broncos.

491
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: That was my I agree with that, Jack, Steelers, five

492
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: and six, Rams seven.

493
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: The Chargers.

494
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: Then I had Chargers next, Yes, uh, Packers, Bill, Patriots, Bears, Niners, Panthers.

495
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 4: Where I'm unsure is.

496
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: I think I'd flop. I think I'd flipp the Niners

497
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: in the Panthers. As I'm doing this, I.

498
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 4: Think Niners will last.

499
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and automatically put Caroline at fourteen.

500
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 4: Because everything, Yeah, we put Bryce Young at fourteen. We'll

501
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: put their ow line at fourteen.

502
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: But if we were ranking all the teams one through fourteen,

503
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: there at fourteen, right, And.

504
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 4: The only thing I'd fight you on is I can't.

505
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if Packers Bears versus Bill's Patriots, you know,

506
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 4: like they were right next to each other in the NFC.

507
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: The NFC clear is the worst two, but then who's

508
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 4: the next worst? The worst four might be in the NFC,

509
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 4: they might be. I mean, Bears and Packers have a

510
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 4: case to be thirteen fourteen.

511
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: They do.

512
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 4: They were a strong case.

513
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: They do. And I put the Bears at twelve that

514
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: they say, stuff's nice. They're a tough one because when

515
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: they turn the ball over, they were a real good defense. Yah,

516
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,239
Speaker 2: when they're taking the ball away, I should say they

517
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: were a real good defense. But we all know that's streaky.

518
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: That's especially in the playoffs, where teams are more you know,

519
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: ball security, ball security, ball security than ever.

520
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: Before and you're not playing I know you just said

521
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 4: this O high a state reference, but if you're playing

522
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 4: the Raiders and Turnover Battle, you can still win, you know.

523
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 4: But this is these games will be.

524
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: Tight, exactly right, exactly right. So there we go. There's

525
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: our defensive rankings. Was I enjoyed doing this. We'll do

526
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: it with the offensive lines tomorrow.

527
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 4: We have agreed more than I thought. Jasonville's the one

528
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 4: people might be like, really, yes.

529
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: That's the one I thought I would get pushed back on.

530
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: But then I was like, I was like, no, Matt,

531
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: Matt knows his craph knows how good they've.

532
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 4: Bet really so fundamentally sound. Yeah, they tackle well, they

533
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: don't make a lot of mistakes. Yeah.

534
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: If Josh heinz Allen had been playing the way all

535
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: year that he's played since Thanksgiving, he would be top

536
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: three in defense. He wouldn't have won it over Miles Garrett.

537
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: He'd be right there in the conversation.

538
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 4: And the thing that hurts him is there's so many

539
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 4: good premium edge guys. He doesn't play in the biggest

540
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 4: market for it. He's not as big a name as

541
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: those guys, but he's a tier one. Yes, I mean, yeah,

542
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: he's not far off the Max Crosbies.

543
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: Of the world.

544
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: If we were to take like all the edge players

545
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: that have leveled up this year, he'd probably be at

546
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: the top of that list, the ones that weren't in

547
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: Tier one already heading into this year. Speaking of Tier one, Matt,

548
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: before we go to break here and close with some

549
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: other stats and numbers and some college football playoff thoughts,

550
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf man one of the greatest wide receivers in

551
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: NFL history. In the wildcard round. Yeah, good time to

552
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: be having this guy back. Dk metcalf has five career

553
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: reception touchdowns in the Wildcard round since the Wildcard Round

554
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: became a thing in nineteen seventy eight. That's second most

555
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: in the National Football League in the history of this thing,

556
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: behind only Ernest Givens who played for Houston way back,

557
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: way back when he averages over one hundred yards a game,

558
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: over a touchdown per game. This is in four games

559
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: for him. He's got five touchdowns and over four hundred yards.

560
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: This is a really good time to be getting dk

561
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: Metcalf back. His playoff resume is outstanding. His playoff numbers

562
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: are very impressive.

563
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I heard it phrase differently than the way

564
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: you did, and it was it wasn't just wild because.

565
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: Probably better than the way you the better willay.

566
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was straight from the JABRONI over here. The

567
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 4: stats that get sent to us from the NFL, from

568
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 4: the league that labs forwards US is of any wide

569
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: receiver in NFL history that has played four or more

570
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 4: playoff games, he averages the most yards per game.

571
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: Okay, it's like one hundred and twelve, one hundred and

572
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: twelve point eight so okay, pretty much one thirteen.

573
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's I mean, only four games. But

574
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 4: still they weren't just picking one guy that played one

575
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: game and blew up. I mean there's some guys of

576
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: a great playoff careers. Rice Larry had a huge run there.

577
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: But he averages the most receiving yards of any any

578
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 4: receiver in playoff history.

579
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: Yes he does. Four games played, four hundred and fifty

580
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: one yards, an average reception of seventeen point three yards

581
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: per catch.

582
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: Wow.

583
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: Five touchdowns in four games, sixteen catches for first downs

584
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: in four games.

585
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: Wow.

586
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: Okay, So not just a big play here and there too,

587
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: he's moving the chains. That was one thing I was

588
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: wondering I was like, I didn't go look at the

589
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 4: games and he have won that he just went nuts

590
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: on and then the other ones he was fine. But

591
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: I left first down consistently. Yeah, that first down number

592
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 4: implies he didn't just hit it in eighty yarder and

593
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 4: two games out of luck because somebody fell down, you

594
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

595
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, I'm trying to get the per game if

596
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: I can find it here, because it lumps his his

597
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: first season in where Seattle played two playoff games is

598
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: one here.

599
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 4: You're saying, Okay, I mean it doesn't matter.

600
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: Also, so yeah, so I mean, hey, hey, average his

601
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: averages for his playoff games one hundred and nine, one

602
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: hundred and nine ninety six, hundred and thirty six.

603
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 4: Okay.

604
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: So he's been good every time he's Yes, he is,

605
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: you know.

606
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 4: And he's gonna have a little chip on the shoulder

607
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 4: of a field.

608
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna have a little chip on his shoulder.

609
00:31:59,560 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: Now.

610
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: He's gonna have a tough matchup. There's no doubt about

611
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: that tough match When we do five Star Friday tomorrow,

612
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that more specifically, He's gonna have a

613
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: tough matchup. Joey Porter Junior is gonna have a tough

614
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: matchup with with Nico Collins. There's some real good on

615
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: good in this game as it relates to wide receivers

616
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: and defensive backs. There really is, yeah, which I'm very

617
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: excited about. That's yeah, that's kind of one of the games.

618
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's kind of one of the games within

619
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: the games to keep an eye on in this one.

620
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, DK has been outstanding in the postseason. He

621
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: should be a little, like you said, chip on his shoulder,

622
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: and I think a little you know, a little rest

623
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: might do him. I think a little rest does any

624
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: NFL player good.

625
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: We were talking about this one this time earlier that

626
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 4: I guess somebody interviewed him and he said something like,

627
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 4: I hated being out, but it was good for my

628
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: legs and you know, like that, It's kind of like

629
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 4: when Rogers had the hand is, like I bet his

630
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: knees said. Thanks.

631
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, DK's twenty eight years old. He's not pushing forty,

632
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: you know, but still it doesn't matter. Long season, right,

633
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: It is a long season. These guys now play an

634
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: extra regular season game, you know, And I know, practice

635
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: and all those things in training camp have been ramped down.

636
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: But still I think, oh, it beats the it, It

637
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: beats the crap out of you. And let's remember too

638
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: earliest bye week possible, all the way, all the way

639
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: back in early October.

640
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 4: The Steelers brand of football with him, physical.

641
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: Brand of football for him and for this team. The

642
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: Steelers surrendered a home game to fly three thousand miles

643
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: away and play one in Ireland. They also took a

644
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: trip across the coast to the Chargers, so they did

645
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: the two furthest trips that they could have possibly taken

646
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: this year, you know, to Europe and to the West

647
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: coast early bye week. I mean, physical type player. I'm

648
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: expecting DK Metcalf to be shot out of a cannon

649
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: Monday night. And I think, considering his history, I think

650
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: that's a fair expectation to have.

651
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: No and that's what you traded for him, and that's

652
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 4: why you gave him a big contract and right and frankly,

653
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: he kind of owes the team a little bit, right now.

654
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: You know, there might not be anybody happier in the

655
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: Steelers organization, but they took why I missed that field

656
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: goal and Dk.

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Speaker 4: Mecca alright, guys, we had that all along, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We talked about the revisionist history of the things. We

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Speaker 2: would have been talking about field position and some other

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Speaker 2: like oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man't be talking about his suspense. Yeah right, but

662
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Speaker 4: we would have oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: It would have gone down an infamy.

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Speaker 4: That Metcalf had a great career here. But remember in

665
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five and got suspended.

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00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: Now it's a tiny little footnote of like, oh yeah,

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00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: he did get suspended that one time. Well it was fine.

668
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: Still beat the Ravens over. You got him back for

669
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Speaker 2: the playoffs when it really mattered. Oh man, and it

670
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: does really matter. On Monday night, we will cross some

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Speaker 2: te's dot some eyes when we were turned on the

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Speaker 2: other side, wrap up some of the conversation of today

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Speaker 2: and some of the news of today. We also have

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Speaker 2: to give some thoughts on the college football playoff game tonight.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and.

676
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: A couple a couple of quarterbacks and a couple of

677
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: players to keep an eye on for both of both

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Speaker 2: of these teams, Miami and Old Miss tonight.

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Speaker 4: I mean Tomorrow's or more. But tonights are intriguing.

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Speaker 2: They sure are, they sure are. Our Our buddy Max

681
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: Starks will not on the call for this one tonight

682
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: but he will be there out in Glendale, Arizona and

683
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: his neck of the woods. And I actually didn't know

684
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: this about Max. He serves on the Fiesta Bowl Committee.

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Speaker 4: Oh really, so so many things.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible. I mean, his a resume of all the

687
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: stuff that he does is wild. Not calling the game

688
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: because basically, just the way the scheduling lines up with

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Speaker 2: ESPN Radio, like Max is on their second crew, if

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00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: that makes sense, because he can't be on their first

691
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: crew because of his Steelers' obligations, right, and so once

692
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: they get to the semi finals, the second crew is

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00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: done and it's only the.

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Speaker 4: First basically, Yeah, but it's his season's over from terms

695
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 4: of calling college football games.

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Speaker 2: But this game, you know, I think is the stadium

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00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: I think is twenty thirty minutes from where he lives,

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Speaker 2: not far. And he is actually Max serves on the

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Speaker 2: Fiesta Bowl Committee. I found this out two years ago.

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Speaker 2: So he will be there in attendance tonight between Miami

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Speaker 2: and Old Miss. Will give some thoughts on that, some

702
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 2: thoughts on some NFL prospects to watch as we wrap

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Speaker 2: this thing up. On the other side, West Shooler Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: it is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tuns About Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final segment here on the Drive tonight, kicking off a

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Speaker 2: great five day stretch of playoff games semi finals in

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Speaker 2: college football, wild Card weekend in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to that, Matt, we did have a

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Speaker 2: tweet from earlier. We talked about the Dolphins and some

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Speaker 2: of the advantages of the professional sports franchises who play

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Speaker 2: in Florida without state income tax. Mike tweets us and

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Speaker 2: says along the lines of Miami in the job advantage

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Speaker 2: with those state income tax do coaches pay state tax

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Speaker 2: on their game checks when games are played out of

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Speaker 2: state in an away game that has income tax? I'm

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00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: not sure how that works, Honestly, I don't know.

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00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 4: I'm not sure on that either, but what I learned

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00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: from Max Coincidentally, we were just talking about them that

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize.

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Speaker 2: Players file taxes all those every.

725
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Speaker 4: State they played in, they have to file a I

726
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: think it's the same as like Bruce Fringsteen if he's

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00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: tours correct, because they're entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift has to file taxes in all these different

729
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 2: places and every states, South America and all these places

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Speaker 2: she performs.

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Speaker 4: But like Max says, sometimes it's a nightmare. Because sometimes

732
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: it's like nightmare. It's like five bucks and they bug

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Speaker 4: you for three years about it or whatever, or you know,

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Speaker 4: your accountant screws it up, just like it's It's one

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Speaker 4: of the things I'm sure every agent or agency does.

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Speaker 2: It's also a big part of the reason I found

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Speaker 2: this out with when we were boots on the ground

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Speaker 2: in Dublin back at the end of September. It's a

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00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: big reason why the NFL teams always leave later than

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00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: the fan base and their own players expect, right right,

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Speaker 2: Because the longer you're there to quote unquote do business,

742
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Speaker 2: the hire and higher the tax rate goes up.

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Speaker 4: Like if TJ watch your highest paid dude, it might

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Speaker 4: cost him extra five hundred grand to go to Ireland.

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Speaker 2: If you go to Ireland on Monday instead of Friday,

746
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: or Tuesday instead of Friday, that tax rate for TJ

747
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: goes through the roof and he's paying an extra three

748
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Speaker 2: hundred grand on his game check to the Irish Republic.

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Speaker 4: Which is all relative too, because if you're Dylan Cook

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Speaker 4: and you're only making a million. I don't got five

751
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: hundred grand to throw around either, yea, right, so it's

752
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Speaker 4: an extra fifty grand that I don't have.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it's funny you mentioned Max. Like I

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Speaker 2: said to Max, like leading up to that, I was like,

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Speaker 2: MAXI am I gonna have to file taxes in Ireland

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Speaker 2: this year because like I'm He's like, no, you don't

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00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: make that much. They're not They're not coming for you, buddy,

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00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 2: don't work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't think coaches have the same It's

760
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: a great question.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll also tell you this, though, I

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Speaker 2: do think that that gets a little over over blown

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Speaker 2: out of proportion.

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Speaker 4: Here's what the entertainment tax day, the no state, no state.

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Speaker 2: Income Here's why, Matt. Maybe I'm more cynical than you,

766
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Speaker 2: but I think we can agree on this. They're gonna

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00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: find a way to get your money. Oh yeah, yeah, Well,

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Speaker 2: the United States government, at a federal and local level,

769
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Speaker 2: is going to find a way to get your money.

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Speaker 2: If it's not if it's not in your income tax,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna pay ten times as much in property taxes.

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Speaker 2: Your sales tax is going to be higher there.

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Speaker 4: Believe me.

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Speaker 2: It's not like those guys are just making millions and

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00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: millions extra with no other area. Their property taxes are

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Speaker 2: way more expensive, all these school taxes way more expensive.

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Speaker 2: All the government is getting your money somehow. It's not

778
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: just like, hey, you can go to Florida and then

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Speaker 2: keep They're still getting it from you somehow.

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Speaker 4: That's actually there's two that leads me to two points

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00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 4: on that conversation because at the break we were talking

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Speaker 4: about Dylan Cook with Labs, and I'm like, I think

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Speaker 4: he's under contract next year. Let's look real quick. Yes

784
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 4: he is for one more year, right, yeah, which is awesome,

785
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 4: by the way, awesome. It's under a little over a

786
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 4: million a year, which is the biggest bargain ever, even

787
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Speaker 4: if he's not started.

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00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: Totally, but even for a quality backup. That's a great

789
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: part just.

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Speaker 4: From a tax perspective. Everyone knows what you make too,

791
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: you know, like no one knows exactly what I make

792
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: or you make. But I can go to spot track

793
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 4: and tell you what Aaron Rodgers bankes, you know, like

794
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 4: here's your salary, dude, it's out there.

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00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 4: And not to mention, I've told the story before too,

797
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 4: but like cost of living in some of these places

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Speaker 4: is way different than the cost of living in Pittsburgh

799
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Speaker 4: or Green Bay. You know, Like I'm sure there's places

800
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Speaker 4: in Florida that are really pricey to live or let

801
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Speaker 4: alone California, Like that stint that I was in college

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00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 4: football for a living. Walt Harris, our head coach, got

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Speaker 4: the Stanford job, you know, right after I had left, Yes,

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Speaker 4: and he loved his staff and he invited him all

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00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 4: to come out to Stanford with him. But like our

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Speaker 4: running back coach or tight end coach is like coach,

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Speaker 4: that's a I'm losing money to go there, even though

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Speaker 4: you got I'm getting a raise. Totally, it's a great offer.

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Speaker 2: I'm party talking about how like he struggles to pay

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Speaker 2: his rent and.

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Speaker 4: See the cheapest guy out there. People were like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and like, no, he's making four hundred k

813
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Speaker 2: a year, is the last pick in the draft.

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Speaker 4: And I'm trying to live near the facility and Hamburger's

815
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Speaker 4: fifty bucks or whatever.

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Speaker 2: The cheapest place in rent that I can find is

817
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Speaker 2: three thousand and four thousand dollars a month, and that's

818
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Speaker 2: for like a one bedroom artow.

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Speaker 4: I had to get back and forth with the facility

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Speaker 4: and yeah, yeah, yeah, like along those lines when I

821
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 4: went when we took the Akron job, we hired the

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00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: respective offense and defensive coordinators from Duke in North Carolina

823
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 4: who had just gotten fired.

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00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: And we're like, come, that money goes a lot further

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Speaker 2: an Akron than it doesn't Chapel a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Their kids and wives were like, we just bought mansions

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Speaker 4: and actor after the house we sold. Yeah, right, Like, ah,

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Speaker 4: that's not a bad gig.

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Speaker 2: Matt I, once in another lifetime interviewed for a hockey

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Speaker 2: broadcasting gig in Anchorage, Alaska.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, but it goes a long way.

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Speaker 2: At the time, I was working for a hockey team

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00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: in Ohio. Yeah, making twenty four grand a year.

834
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Sure.

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Speaker 2: This job in Anchorage, Alaska was offering seventy five grand

836
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: a year and a company car.

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Speaker 4: Which is probably like one seventy five.

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00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, that's a lot of money in Alaska, man,

839
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Speaker 2: plus a company car.

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00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,479
Speaker 4: And almo as you can like find food.

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00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: Might have been a team apartment included in it, but

842
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, you got to live in Alaska in

843
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: the middle of nowhere. Yeah, that money goes a long

844
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: way and everything, But.

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00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 4: You got a I don't think there's like pizza hut

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00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 4: next door to you. I mean, as long as you

847
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 4: don't have to like club Seals the survivor anything.

848
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: There. But yes, I once interviewed for a hockey broadcasting

849
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: gig in Alaska back in a different lifetime. Might have

850
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: taken the job if they offered it to me too.

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00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 4: Uh, Matt, we got this single dude, put that money

852
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: away for a few years. You're right, that's not bad,

853
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 4: unbelievable yeah.

854
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: Uh, And it would have been a lot of fun

855
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: for like your parents and your family to come visit.

856
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 4: You out there. Unless you skate and play hockey. There's

857
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 4: a lot of ice up there.

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00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 3: Bet.

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00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: I've never been, but I imagine there's a decent amount

860
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: of ice. I bet you could play pond hockey about

861
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: six months a year.

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00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Tonight, Matt seven thirty ESPN. Miami old miss the Fiesta

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00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: Bowl College college football semi final winner goes to the

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Speaker 2: Natty to face the winner of Oregon Indiana, which will

866
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: be tomorrow. Miami a three point favorite. It really is

867
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: starting to feel like Miami's destined to make the college

868
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: football Playoff. I mean they win that rock fight.

869
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 4: Isle of play seems to fit to.

870
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: They win that rock fight against A and M on

871
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: the road, and then they take down A Juggernaut and

872
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 2: the defending national champions in Ohio State. But man Old Miss,

873
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: they've got some of that like Cinderella stuff going on

874
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: to you know, lost their coach, a lot of their

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00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: coaching staff.

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00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they get some mojo.

877
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: And they've won two playoff games here. They are all

878
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 2: of a sudden. I think Miami gets it done, but

879
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: man Ole Miss is really talented. In between Trinidad Chambliss,

880
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: who we've talked about Lacy, they're running back who's maybe

881
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: the best in the country. It's gonna be a good

882
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: one tonight. I'm really looking forward to it.

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00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 4: Lacy's not draft eligible.

884
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: I don't think he is not, and he's one of

885
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: the ones that's rumored as soon as this is done,

886
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 2: it's he's gonna hit the He's got to be in

887
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: college for at least one more year. He's gonna hit

888
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: the portal and go to l s U and make

889
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: a bunch of money or go to one of these places.

890
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: But we'll wait and see. Keep an eye on both

891
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: of the defensive ends for the Hurricanes of Ruben Bain,

892
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: who might be the first defensive player drafted. A key

893
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: Messador's who started as who started as a Mountaineer before Miami.

894
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: He's a fifth or sixth year guy. Yeah, started as

895
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: a true freshman at WU for two years, really good

896
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: and then you know, took a bag to go to

897
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: South Beach. Both of those guys, well, Baine will be

898
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 2: a first round pick, maybe the first defensive player. Messador

899
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: probably a first round pick two, but definitely a top top,

900
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: top fifty guy. Scott the corner from Miami.

901
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: I think he's like a nickel do it all Petrie type.

902
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: He is the one who had to pick six. He

903
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: could be one of those I still think what's his name?

904
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: From Ohio State? Caleb Downs is the first defensive back

905
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: off the board, but Scott might not be too far behind.

906
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: Then Francis the offensive tackle from Miami who I think

907
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: him or Faunu from Utah will be the first.

908
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely guys if he doesn't make it a tackle, he

909
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 4: should be a guard type, big maller.

910
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: For Old Miss. Keep an eye on Sunterreen Perkins the linebacker.

911
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: He is not quite r. L. Reese, not quite Mark

912
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons rushers in that next tier down. They play

913
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: him on the edge, they play him off ball. He

914
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: makes a million tackles, He's got double digit sacks. He's

915
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: all over the place, and I think he's one of

916
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: those guys that will really rise in draft conversations and

917
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: draft boards once we get through this processing into that.

918
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: Just watching, I bet he's a good tester total the way.

919
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: He flies around and everything. And I bet you he'll

920
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: interview really well. You know, his game brain stuff at

921
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: the grease board will be really good. So there's some

922
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: names to watch. I do think Miami gets it done.

923
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: But I think this is a true coin flip tonight.

924
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: I think tonight's gonna be a NASCAR race. Tomorrow's game

925
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: between Indiana Oregon, I think will be lower scoring, who

926
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: blinks first, who makes mistakes, where tonight could be crazy

927
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: back and forth turnovers, interceptions.

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Speaker 4: Pick six is wild one, and we didn't mention Beck.

929
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Speaker 2: Carson Beck of course.

930
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: I mean he has then had to do a lot.

931
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: Might be the week he has to And then again,

932
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: keep an eye on Trinidad Chamberless because he's committed to

933
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: quote unquote finishing his college career at old min but

934
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: what exactly and they win tonight and all of a

935
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: sudden he's going to be a top fifty pick in

936
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Speaker 2: the draft. Who knows, but that is your action tonight

937
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 2: to tee up a fun five days of football here

938
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Speaker 2: for sure. That will do it for us today. Big

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Speaker 2: thanks to Bob Labriola for joining us, Nathan for producing

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Speaker 2: on the radio side, TV, Tyler V for keeps keeping

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Speaker 2: us handsome on YouTube. I'm West Shuler for my co

942
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: host Matt Williamson. Take care, everybody, we will talk to

943
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Speaker 2: you tomorrow where we will really deep dive into all

944
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: of these matchups five Star Friday. I'm so excited. I'm

945
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: barping here on the microphone as it'll be all Steelers

946
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Speaker 2: and Texans tomorrow on the program. You know where to

947
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Speaker 2: find us. As always, take care, We'll talk to you

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