Speaker 1: I'm happy that I have both of you on here
Speaker 1: because I feel like, Jennica, you're a little bit more
Speaker 1: traditional and certain things, and Johnny is a little bit
Speaker 1: more of a gen Z for sure. Growing up, Grandma
Speaker 1: and Grandpa would always say, Okay, when a you're gonna
Speaker 1: have kids, Do you feel that pressure, Jennica or No?
Speaker 1: I don't and I don't feel like I need to
Speaker 1: have children now. Do you guys believe in monotony? I've
Speaker 1: never been in any kind of polyamorous relationship, but you know,
Speaker 1: monogamous relationships. I've noticed as I've gotten older, they've gotten
Speaker 1: more challenging for me. Hey what up? Everyone, Welcome to
Speaker 1: Cheeks and Chill. I hope you're having a beautiful day.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what day you're listening to this episode,
Speaker 1: but whichever day it is, I hope you're having a
Speaker 1: really great one. Today's episode is going to be really fun.
Speaker 1: It features my sister and best friend, Jennica, this is
Speaker 1: your second time on the Chickens and Chill podcast, and Johnny,
Speaker 1: my baby boy brother who's not really a baby anymore.
Speaker 1: He's twenty one. So we're gonna be talking about generational divide.
Speaker 1: We'll be weighing in on a range of topics to
Speaker 1: see how millennials feel about certain things versus gen zars. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm super excited to have them both here on
Speaker 1: Cheese and Chew. As you know, UM a millennial, which
Speaker 1: means I was born between the years of nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: one and nineteen nine, and both Johnny and Jessica are
Speaker 1: from the generation gen Z, which means they were both
Speaker 1: born after. So let's just get into it. Hi, Johnny
Speaker 1: and Jessica, how are you, guys. I'm good. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm still like millennial. I'm only a
Speaker 1: year after the cut off N seven, So you feel
Speaker 1: like you're on the cuss Yeah, I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: on the cusp. Like I feel like I have a
Speaker 1: little bit of both. Yeah, she is on the cusp.
Speaker 1: There was like a whole thing like for nineties kids
Speaker 1: and nine. They grew up with like nineties stuff, but
Speaker 1: like they still had like two thousands. So like they're
Speaker 1: in between like gen Z Millennia. It's a weird thing.
Speaker 1: They have their own thing going on. Okay, which is
Speaker 1: great because I'm happy that I have both of you
Speaker 1: on here because I feel like, Jessica, you're a little
Speaker 1: bit more traditional and certain things, and Johnny is a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a gen Z for sure. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Do you feel like you're a little bit
Speaker 1: more open minded? Johnny? Yeah, to an extent. I definitely
Speaker 1: feel like I have an old soul, but a lot
Speaker 1: of certain things about you know, maybe the way I
Speaker 1: carry myself. But definitely. As I've gotten older and I
Speaker 1: started talking to more people in my age because I
Speaker 1: didn't used to do that before, I've noticed, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's some things I have in common. There's a natural
Speaker 1: open mindedness nice. And I think it also has to
Speaker 1: do with who you were raised by, you know. I
Speaker 1: think feel like Mom was very like open minded in
Speaker 1: certain things and then very traditional and not to sound bad,
Speaker 1: but narrow minded kind of in a sense in certain things.
Speaker 1: Let's just call it more traditional, I guess whatever. But
Speaker 1: moving forward, this is your sister talking. It's not your
Speaker 1: second mother. Okay, so let's be very open and have
Speaker 1: an open conversation. Can we agree to agree? All right?
Speaker 1: So let's start with marriage. Okay, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about marriage, Jessica? Okay, the way that we grew up,
Speaker 1: Mom had multiple divorces, so me, I don't know if
Speaker 1: marriage is ideal for me, and I feel like marriage
Speaker 1: kind of tends to like ruin things. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's not necessary to me if I've been with someone
Speaker 1: for like, let's say seven eight years and they want
Speaker 1: to get married all of a sun. Now, I feel
Speaker 1: like we basically are married, if we've already lived together,
Speaker 1: if we have a kid or etcetera, etcetera. I think
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. I would love to have a wedding, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's not like necessary for me
Speaker 1: to get married. I'm kind of over the I have
Speaker 1: a kid after marriage, have said like all that stuff. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of over. I feel like that's like old
Speaker 1: and honestly depends on how you were raised. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like it's necessary if someone wants proposed and yeah,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's like you have to find
Speaker 1: that certain balance. But I feel like if you've been
Speaker 1: with someone for so long, you're basically married already. Okay,
Speaker 1: So do you feel like your life would be complete
Speaker 1: even if you don't get married. Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's just a title. Even when, like nowadays, when people
Speaker 1: ask you to be their boyfriend girlfriend. I don't feel
Speaker 1: like it's necessary, like titles aren't important. I know what
Speaker 1: about you, John, Her thoughts really echo mind, dude, and
Speaker 1: that's why I'm so surprised. Well, you guys are both
Speaker 1: gen z s. I know. It's just like I thought
Speaker 1: it was just me, you know. I mean, I've always
Speaker 1: felt like my life circumstances may have made me unfit
Speaker 1: for marriage obviously, like when you're raised, you're growing up
Speaker 1: and you're thinking about like that as like an angle
Speaker 1: or something. But it's just I don't know, it's our
Speaker 1: life circumstances have been so different, and I feel like
Speaker 1: if I am going to marry someone, I would need
Speaker 1: to put in a lot of work with myself before
Speaker 1: I do something like that. And I'm talking like not
Speaker 1: like two or three years more. I'm talking about like
Speaker 1: like seven years or something. I feel like you guys,
Speaker 1: is they're both too young personally. That's there, he would go,
Speaker 1: there's the mother in me. I'm thinking because they're too young.
Speaker 1: But I honestly feel that people shouldn't get married in
Speaker 1: the twenties personally. That's the time where you guys should
Speaker 1: just get to know yourself and build a relationship and
Speaker 1: then maybe later on in life. I don't know. That's
Speaker 1: the whole like rule I have of myself is I
Speaker 1: don't want to get married until after I'm thirty. System
Speaker 1: open rolled myself. But I also just not that I'm
Speaker 1: like calling that upon me. But it's just it's hard
Speaker 1: to envision a marriage lasting. But that's also just because
Speaker 1: we don't know. Our bloodline has run in so much divorce.
Speaker 1: I know, but we are going to break generational curses. Guys, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's going to start with us. It is starting with us.
Speaker 1: But do you think the issue is more getting married
Speaker 1: period or getting married to the wrong person, maybe to
Speaker 1: the wrong person. And I was kind of thinking that
Speaker 1: what General was talking, because I think my first relationship
Speaker 1: I felt really hard, and now whenever I date anyone,
Speaker 1: it's really hard for me to like fall like that
Speaker 1: or just I don't know, it's almost like I'm one
Speaker 1: ft in one it out, So to make a step
Speaker 1: like marriage is like, I don't know, it's hard, it's
Speaker 1: probably the wrong person. What about Eugenica or just in general,
Speaker 1: you're just not interested. It's not that I'm not interested.
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to getting married I just, like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't find it necessary and I don't find it
Speaker 1: necessary for someone to ask me to be their girlfriend,
Speaker 1: like a whole little proposal thing. Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I feel like titles are so overrated now later on, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: Like ultimately I don't want to have to get divorced,
Speaker 1: so obviously married the right person. Well that makes sense,
Speaker 1: that makes sense as a millennial, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think it has to do also with how we grew up,
Speaker 1: where I wasn't like that type of girl that was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I dream of the day that I'm
Speaker 1: gouna get married in my dress and this is what
Speaker 1: I want. Like I was never that type of girl,
Speaker 1: but when it came around, and I really did want
Speaker 1: to get married when I got married, and we all
Speaker 1: know what happened with that. But I guess it's weird
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I wouldn't mind getting married again, but
Speaker 1: I'm okay if I don't. I think as far as marriage,
Speaker 1: it has to do with how we grew up. What
Speaker 1: is what's your take on children? Do you guys want
Speaker 1: to have kids? Johnny wants to have a kid already.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm very content with my nieces
Speaker 1: and nephews that I don't need to have my own
Speaker 1: unless I am with someone that I'm going to be
Speaker 1: with for the rest of my life. I think it
Speaker 1: is important to have children with the right people personally,
Speaker 1: I mean, how are you supposed to know? Everyone changes?
Speaker 1: You know? But yeah, but you don't feel like in
Speaker 1: a rush. You don't feel like me growing up, I
Speaker 1: felt like Grandma and Grandpa would always say like, okay,
Speaker 1: when you're gonna have kids, like I want grandchildren, and
Speaker 1: like you're getting older, and it's like I felt all
Speaker 1: this pressure of if I don't have kids now, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm useless. Like someone once told me, you're here to reproduce.
Speaker 1: That's not the only thing I'm here for. I'm here
Speaker 1: to do what I'm doing now. Not having children doesn't
Speaker 1: make me less of a woman. Do you feel that pressure,
Speaker 1: Jennika Arne, No, I don't, And I don't feel like
Speaker 1: I need to have children now. Ultimately, it's like, whatever
Speaker 1: I want to choose. Even when I'm with someone like
Speaker 1: say my husband, like and he wants to have kids,
Speaker 1: I feel like I still have that right and that
Speaker 1: decision to choose when I want to have the baby
Speaker 1: or not, because it's just my body and what I
Speaker 1: personally prefer. I'm not I'm not in a rush. I'm
Speaker 1: not in a rush to even get married or to
Speaker 1: even be with anyone. I do agree like having kids young.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have kids when i'm like i'm
Speaker 1: fifty because I want to be able to enjoy them.
Speaker 1: I want to be able to have fun and like
Speaker 1: grow with them, and I don't want to be old.
Speaker 1: But I do think that there's no rush. I feel
Speaker 1: like when the time is right, the time right. So
Speaker 1: do you think I'm too old to have children to come? No?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? Okay, cool, that's good, Yeah, because I don't
Speaker 1: feel it, you know. I just like I always say
Speaker 1: this all the time, like I don't feel like I
Speaker 1: need to have children right now because I feel a
Speaker 1: lot younger than I am, to be honest, And I'm
Speaker 1: not just saying I just really do feel that. Like
Speaker 1: sometimes when I say my age, I'm like, what when
Speaker 1: did that even happen? But it should. I'm sexy, you know,
Speaker 1: but whatever I think you could be sexy at fifty sixty, that's,
Speaker 1: you know, not the case. But anyways, Johnny, You've told
Speaker 1: me plenty of times you need to have a child,
Speaker 1: you need to leave something on this earth. Do you
Speaker 1: still feel that way? Yeah? Yeah, I really really don't.
Speaker 1: It's just something I feel like it would it would
Speaker 1: be fulfilling for me. I would love to have a
Speaker 1: many me. Yeah. Okay, Jennica, what's what age do you
Speaker 1: think if you were to have children, how would you
Speaker 1: want to be. I'm twenty four going on twenty five.
Speaker 1: I feel like, I don't know, probably like thirty five. Okay, Johnny.
Speaker 1: That's just me, just because I've always wanted to be
Speaker 1: like a more youthful dad. Hopefully I can get my
Speaker 1: ship together by the time as much as I can,
Speaker 1: but I don't. And when you guys have conversations with
Speaker 1: your friends, do you guys hear them say like they
Speaker 1: want to have kids to or I've heard a lot
Speaker 1: of conversations even myself. I think I've told you this
Speaker 1: to Johnny, where I'm like, how am I going to
Speaker 1: bring a child into this world? You know? Those are
Speaker 1: my personal concerns or like even you know we're overpopulated.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think about everything you can't help,
Speaker 1: but think of those things sometimes I think for me,
Speaker 1: I've had conversations like this too, like or they want
Speaker 1: to have kids young, like by thirty and I don't
Speaker 1: think about the overpopulation, like I feel like, whatever happens happened,
Speaker 1: God lets it happen. He'll make the earth binger. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Now, let's move on to home ownership. You guys,
Speaker 1: how important do you feel it is to own your
Speaker 1: own home? Do you think it's necessary? I mean, we
Speaker 1: grew up, like you got to work to buy your
Speaker 1: own home. Mom owned her first home at nineteen years old.
Speaker 1: I owned my first home at thirty two. I think
Speaker 1: it was What do you guys think about that? Well,
Speaker 1: I owned my own home. Yes, the blessing. Yes, I
Speaker 1: don't know how old I was. Yes, it is very
Speaker 1: much a blessing. I believe I was twenty one when
Speaker 1: I got the house, and that was something Mom wanted
Speaker 1: for us. She says she was going to give us
Speaker 1: X amount of money for a down payment. So shout
Speaker 1: out to Mama up in heaven. Thank you. But do
Speaker 1: you feel like it's a marker of success? Do you
Speaker 1: feel like good saying, oh, I own my own home. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I believe that it's super important. I always felt like
Speaker 1: I always felt like I was wasting money renting at
Speaker 1: an apartment or why am I spending so much here
Speaker 1: when I could put it towards something that I can own,
Speaker 1: versus not being able to put up my own fucking
Speaker 1: like tease or like the core stuff like that because
Speaker 1: of an apartment rules or stuff like that. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's superpartment. And ultimately I think it's an investment
Speaker 1: because either way it adds on to your name. And yeah, well,
Speaker 1: because Jennica left at eighteen, you guys, she just said,
Speaker 1: peace out. I'm eighteen. I want to be independent. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm glad we're having this conversation because I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more like Johnny. I really thought
Speaker 1: that I was going to live in mom's house forever.
Speaker 1: I was comfortable. I felt like, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get married. I'm gonna live my life for my mom,
Speaker 1: for my siblings and be there for them. And until
Speaker 1: my mom literally had to push me out, was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta go, but Johnny, and I'm not
Speaker 1: asking this question because I want you to move out.
Speaker 1: You know, I love having you here, and I would
Speaker 1: love having Jessica here if she wanted. But I understand,
Speaker 1: you know, but I want to hear you a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's definitely a goal. It's just more so with me
Speaker 1: figuring out and this is going to be the right
Speaker 1: time for me to take some step like that. Especially
Speaker 1: more so it's a it's an emotional thing. I think
Speaker 1: we've been so tesched to one another for so long.
Speaker 1: That's where it gets really difficult. But it's definitely like
Speaker 1: a goal. And I look at videos like one mom
Speaker 1: had her househoming party, and I wonder how she felt there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just something to think about,
Speaker 1: use some vision what it would be like to be
Speaker 1: in those shoes, you know what I mean? Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: So monogamy, I'm interested in this. Do you guys believe
Speaker 1: in monogamy? When you do get in a relationship, do
Speaker 1: you feel like I respect this person. I don't believe
Speaker 1: in having an open relationship. Oh yeah, unless there's like
Speaker 1: clear bound. He's like, hey, you know what, like I
Speaker 1: kind of just want to suck like then sure, okay,
Speaker 1: so you are d t F Yeah basically, well I
Speaker 1: don't know right now as of today. No, you're chilling
Speaker 1: I'm chilling, but I do believe like one partner at
Speaker 1: a time, I don't want you dating anybody else. We're
Speaker 1: talking you to anybody else. Okay, yeah, same, all right, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I've asked myself, I've spoken to other gen zs
Speaker 1: and and they're kind of like, no, I want to
Speaker 1: have an open relationship, and they're pretty straight up about it.
Speaker 1: They're like, I will tell the person i'm dating, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're the only guy I'm dating. But I also like
Speaker 1: to kiss girls once in a while, and I'll let
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm at least I'm being honest sort
Speaker 1: of thing, you know, which is cool. Whatever tickles your pickle.
Speaker 1: What about you, John, Yeah, I definitely think it's like
Speaker 1: monogonamous relationships can be great. I've never been in any
Speaker 1: kind of polyamorous relationship at all, but you know, monogamous relationships,
Speaker 1: I've noticed as I've gotten older, they've gotten more challenging
Speaker 1: for me. I don't know what exactly it is, but
Speaker 1: I remember my first relationship it was very easy for
Speaker 1: me just to be loyal. But also I think that
Speaker 1: also has to do with the fact that I just
Speaker 1: don't let myself fall as in love as I did
Speaker 1: the first time, because you know, when you love like
Speaker 1: you ceased to be you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: you lose your individuality a little bit. So you feel
Speaker 1: that did that first relationship scare you a little bit?
Speaker 1: And you feel like, maybe, well, yeah, basically just because
Speaker 1: I went through so much, I was cheated on and
Speaker 1: I came out publicly and I found out that, you know,
Speaker 1: it was that week actually that I had gotten cheated on,
Speaker 1: and so I felt like I made myself look so stupid,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I don't ever want to make myself
Speaker 1: look that stupid. Yeah, you felt like it was a
Speaker 1: slap in your face, And if I could just give
Speaker 1: you some advice as your sister, as a friend, I
Speaker 1: don't think that you should look at it that way
Speaker 1: where you feel like you made yourself look stupid. I
Speaker 1: think you were being honest with yourself in that season
Speaker 1: of your life, and this is what I'm living. You're
Speaker 1: being honest and open, and I think that you made
Speaker 1: a lot of people feel a lot more comfortable in
Speaker 1: their own sexuality. And that's something that I feel like, eventually,
Speaker 1: maybe we can have another conversation where we could talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about that, so you could elaborate
Speaker 1: if you like. But I don't think that you should
Speaker 1: feel stupid. And I don't think that because that one
Speaker 1: relationship where you were monogamous and you were faithful didn't
Speaker 1: work out, does that mean that everyone else is going
Speaker 1: to be the same, you know, And I think it's
Speaker 1: just gonna take time. I think right now, you guys
Speaker 1: are young. You're young, Johnny, you're twenty one, Like, this
Speaker 1: is the time for you to explore your body, to
Speaker 1: meet other people, to day different people. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying just go and just give your penis to everyone.
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. I mean, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to do. But I mean what I'm saying is, right
Speaker 1: now your twenties is to kind of figure out, Okay,
Speaker 1: who am I? What do I want in life? Just
Speaker 1: to get your ship to get other So don't feel
Speaker 1: bad about that. Yeah, That's how I've been taking in
Speaker 1: I and all all I heard going into my twenties
Speaker 1: was that your twenties was just you finding yourself, losing yourself,
Speaker 1: and just finding yourself all over again until you're dirty. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it is, and you just have to
Speaker 1: be compassionate with the process entrepreneurship. Okay, Jennica, you are
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. You have Overcomfort now more than ever. I
Speaker 1: feel like everyone wants to be like a CEO, own
Speaker 1: their own business versus having a nine to five job.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that. I believe that everyone
Speaker 1: could be an entrepreneur. I believe that people that have
Speaker 1: a nine to five are limiting their mind and creativity
Speaker 1: to be something greater. I personally don't think I could
Speaker 1: ever do a nine to five. I like what I
Speaker 1: do now. I like being able to help people, and
Speaker 1: I mean nine to five like a corporate There's only
Speaker 1: so much that you could do in a nine to five,
Speaker 1: like working for someone else. And I like knowing that
Speaker 1: I could do things for myself and create my own
Speaker 1: schedule and at the end of the day, for me
Speaker 1: at least for Overcomfort, it's it's something that can help
Speaker 1: people and inspire people on the daily. I feel like
Speaker 1: there's room at the table for everybody, Like, no matter
Speaker 1: what it is, whatever you want to create. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like entrepreneurship is the way to go. And
Speaker 1: also I feel like that's the way Mom raised me
Speaker 1: as well. Mom was very hands on like businesswoman and
Speaker 1: all that, so I feel like it's the only way
Speaker 1: I know versus actually going to work out at nine
Speaker 1: to five. I agree, there are times where I have
Speaker 1: thought it is just going to be easier if I
Speaker 1: do a nine to five, I'd have less stress, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I do enjoy what I do,
Speaker 1: so I get that. I mean now talking about college,
Speaker 1: I've thought about it so many times or it's like
Speaker 1: I wish I would have gone to college in the
Speaker 1: earlier years of my life. I feel like it's never
Speaker 1: too late and there's no shame you guys, just going
Speaker 1: back to the nine five, there's no shame in doing
Speaker 1: an into five whatever works for you. And now we
Speaker 1: do have more opportunities because of social media to push businesses,
Speaker 1: which I think is awesome as well, but it's a
Speaker 1: lot of work. Like Jessica said, to have your own
Speaker 1: your own business, which takes me back to what I
Speaker 1: was saying in the college thing. You know, for a
Speaker 1: long time, I thought like I should have gone to
Speaker 1: college because I had dedicated my life we know the
Speaker 1: story already, to my mom, to my to my family,
Speaker 1: and I thought like that's something that no one can
Speaker 1: ever take away from me my education, you know, learning
Speaker 1: something a trade of my own, so that I did
Speaker 1: not find myself at twenty six like what the hell
Speaker 1: am I going to do with my life? But I
Speaker 1: feel like now more than ever, I understand and I'm
Speaker 1: grateful for how things went. But I still kind of
Speaker 1: want to go to college. Sometimes you guys, do you
Speaker 1: guys feel like you want to go to college? Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, Johnny, I know you tried.
Speaker 1: What school? Did you go to again? Papa? It was
Speaker 1: the Hollywood What school? Yes? I was going up until
Speaker 1: January February this year. I just because everything not so
Speaker 1: hectic with mom and stuff that I thought I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to give it the time it means.
Speaker 1: But I've even though it's been online, but I spent
Speaker 1: about three months of it in an actual like everyday school.
Speaker 1: I was getting up early and whatnot. And I enjoyed
Speaker 1: the experience like it was. It was fun and it
Speaker 1: was different. But I don't know, I just have to
Speaker 1: be passionate about whatever I'm doing because something actually that
Speaker 1: scared me about choosing something to do in college was
Speaker 1: I always heard about how so many people end up
Speaker 1: usually switching their majors. I'm glad I went for something
Speaker 1: that I know it was like, you know, not necessarily
Speaker 1: gonna stick with me. It's music, something that I really love.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I went for that. But as far as
Speaker 1: like anything else, like I know, I would like to
Speaker 1: get a business degree at some point that would be good.
Speaker 1: And do you want to complete the music and film school? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely want to because Jennically, you also tried going
Speaker 1: to college, right, Yeah, it just wasn't for me, you know,
Speaker 1: and I love school. It's not like I don't love school.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I don't know, a moment clicked
Speaker 1: to me where it's like I'm not going to be
Speaker 1: a doctor. I'm not going to be a lawyer. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be a surgeon. Like then what am
Speaker 1: I doing? Because the benefits that you get in other
Speaker 1: jobs just aren't necessarily worth it for me. I always
Speaker 1: wanted to be a teacher, a preschool teacher, like I
Speaker 1: loved taking care of kids. But then I knew that
Speaker 1: there was something more out there for me. And now,
Speaker 1: like with overcomfort, I'm able to still help children and
Speaker 1: make donations for foster care or like stuff like that
Speaker 1: where I feel like I'm making a much more bigger
Speaker 1: difference in my opinion. Okay, I like that and see that.
Speaker 1: That's my take. I'm all about education. If you, like
Speaker 1: Jennica said, if you're gonna go to school, you have
Speaker 1: to be passionate. Like they both said, you have to
Speaker 1: just be passionate about what you're doing, at what you're
Speaker 1: learning about, whatever it may be. It's just having something
Speaker 1: of your own to fall back on is so important.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm an advocate for education and I
Speaker 1: want to give out or scholarships because I don't care
Speaker 1: what it is if you're going to go to a
Speaker 1: traditional college to be a psychologist, let's say, or you're
Speaker 1: gonna go to cosmetology school, like I want to be
Speaker 1: able to help people achieve their dreams. I just knowledge
Speaker 1: is power, that's all it is. That's my take on it.
Speaker 1: But I was very curious to see how you guys felt.
Speaker 1: You guys know that I support all the decisions you make.
Speaker 1: Now you guys vaping, Jessica, I see it more now
Speaker 1: than ever. You always have a vape in your hand,
Speaker 1: and I see a lot of gen zs with vapes
Speaker 1: in their hand. Can I ask why, like, like, is
Speaker 1: it like something to do? Does it help with your anxiety? Okay?
Speaker 1: For me, I used to be against it until everyone
Speaker 1: started having it around me, and then it did help
Speaker 1: with my anxiety. Like I just grab it and I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, just take some deep breasts, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: But now I've moved done. It's more of a habit
Speaker 1: for me. It's not like I absolutely needed to survive. No,
Speaker 1: I feel like I just like blowing out the air.
Speaker 1: So I switched over to like these zero nicotine ones,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really like mess with my lungs and
Speaker 1: my body and all that. But some other people really
Speaker 1: like it. I agree. It's not the healthiest for your body.
Speaker 1: So that's why, like I just move on to like
Speaker 1: other alternatives or just no weed. All right, Yeah that
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, what about marijuana? I like it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just can't function every day high, Like me, Why
Speaker 1: do you smoke weeds so much? Johnny? Well, when I started, honestly,
Speaker 1: it's just because I had so many, so many moments
Speaker 1: of like introspection alone, and I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: started realizing, like a lot of my problems like we're fixable.
Speaker 1: That's where it first started. I'm like, I love the introspection.
Speaker 1: I love that I felt like I was like learning
Speaker 1: a lot about myself. And then music, music and movies, dude,
Speaker 1: they're just better music, especially like especially when I always
Speaker 1: say I'm going to take a break from smoke and weed,
Speaker 1: it's always music. I'm like, I really want to listen
Speaker 1: to this, to this high. I think there are so
Speaker 1: many benefits with smoking marijuana. Of course, responsibly, you guys,
Speaker 1: our elders, they saw it, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: they still do, but saw it is something so negative,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because that's how we grew up.
Speaker 1: I mean, for a long time it was illegal. Now
Speaker 1: it's legal here in California. But I smoke weed and
Speaker 1: I've I've shared this with you guys before here on
Speaker 1: the podcast. I do it to sleep, to relax. It's
Speaker 1: helped me with headaches, with stress. You guys, I just
Speaker 1: feel a lot better, you know what I mean, since
Speaker 1: I've been kind of smoking. You and your brother Mikey
Speaker 1: are are stoners for sure, you guys. Wake in bake huh, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was waking and baking through my bond all of
Speaker 1: February and I would do it before I ran. Dude,
Speaker 1: it helps, that's crazy, see, And I think it just
Speaker 1: it works differently for everyone. I mean, I can't smoke
Speaker 1: during the day, like it's just not my things. And
Speaker 1: it's not even every day. I can't, it's like every
Speaker 1: other day a because it can make me a little
Speaker 1: lethargic I feel sometimes, but for sure to work out.
Speaker 1: I've never tried it, but it's for sure medicinal. You
Speaker 1: guys anyways, Okay, let's talk about tattoos. You both have tattoos,
Speaker 1: plenty of them. They used to be very taboo. I
Speaker 1: mean when I got my first tattoo, I was eighteen,
Speaker 1: and one of our uncles was so upset and said,
Speaker 1: you are the first one to have a tattoo in
Speaker 1: the family, how dare you? Of course, it was a
Speaker 1: tramp stamp. Now I removed it. I regret it. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. You know. I don't regret many things
Speaker 1: in my life, but I do regret the tattoo because
Speaker 1: it was just dumb. Thank goodness, you guys are smarter
Speaker 1: than me, and you're all of your tattoos have a
Speaker 1: lot of thought in them. But when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh my gosh, you have tattoos, Like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how ladies don't do that? You know?
Speaker 1: But I think, like the tattoos on you guys look
Speaker 1: so nice. Why has it changed? Why is it just
Speaker 1: more acceptable now? I think that people have meaning for them.
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's necessarily a problem. Like if
Speaker 1: my kids want to have tattoos, go for it. I
Speaker 1: would never hold them. Like mom didn't like tattoo is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mom didn't like them. She didn't have one. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I think that was she wanted to, but she was
Speaker 1: like afraid because of her mom. Yeah, because grandma. Grandma
Speaker 1: didn't like tattoos and didn't want her to have any,
Speaker 1: so she wanted to. She was curious, but she was like, no,
Speaker 1: how are they going to look when I turned sixty
Speaker 1: or seventy, I'm gonna be a grandma with all these tattoos.
Speaker 1: Is not gonna look cute. But she let me have it.
Speaker 1: I never got a tattoo without asking her, So I
Speaker 1: was just even when I was not living at home,
Speaker 1: like came, mom, I want to get a tattoo, are
Speaker 1: you quote with it? But anyways, I mean I was
Speaker 1: just wondering because I feel like tattoos, I see them
Speaker 1: as something nice, you know, I see them as a
Speaker 1: form of expression, now you know. Okay, So last question.
Speaker 1: Celebrities versus influencers are the same. What's the definition of
Speaker 1: someone famous? How how has it changed? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're the same in what way celebrities
Speaker 1: can influence people? Like you're a singer, right, You're an artist,
Speaker 1: but you are able to get these brands to influence
Speaker 1: people to purchase products, not necessarily a brand, but even
Speaker 1: on your day to day things that you use, Like
Speaker 1: you influence people. A celebrity influences people to change things,
Speaker 1: like Kim Kardashian, Like she's a celebrity and everybody looks
Speaker 1: up to her. But hasn't hasn't it always just been lned?
Speaker 1: I do because they use celebrities like singers, actors for
Speaker 1: marketing campaigns and put them on b board advertisements. That's
Speaker 1: all it is, exactly. I feel like it on Instagram now, yeah,
Speaker 1: it just happens to be on social media. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's the same thing. Okay, yeah, because for a
Speaker 1: long time it was. I mean, I've gotten this so
Speaker 1: many times like, oh, you're not a singer, You're an influencer,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, uh, no, I am a singer, and yes,
Speaker 1: I also am an influencer. I guess there's a huge
Speaker 1: difference between being an influencer and actually being influential. So
Speaker 1: that's something that I had to also accept because it
Speaker 1: was kind of like frowned upon that I would do
Speaker 1: kind of both. And I feel like it's a blessing
Speaker 1: that I can seeing and write books and be an
Speaker 1: author and stuff, but I can also get on Instagram
Speaker 1: and be honest and transparent with people. I think again,
Speaker 1: going back to our elders, they would see it as
Speaker 1: you haven't worked as hard as we did to get
Speaker 1: where you're at because you have everything in your fingertips
Speaker 1: through social media. And I'm like two middle fingers up
Speaker 1: in the air for you, because it's still hard. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of work in doing videos and reels
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. You know, it's it's work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But honestly, dude, I feel like if Mom was here,
Speaker 1: she would have like ended up being a queen of it,
Speaker 1: Like she would have mastered it, oh for sure. Because
Speaker 1: if we think about it, celebrities came from like acting
Speaker 1: and singing, just that, you know. So now some people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, influencers just just social media. So do
Speaker 1: you guys see them as influencers? Like, for instance, let's
Speaker 1: say Ellanites. You know, he's our homie. Do you see
Speaker 1: him as a celebrity or do you see him as
Speaker 1: an influencer? Influencer? It's hard, it's hard to Yeah, I
Speaker 1: get the difference, but it's I don't know, that's a
Speaker 1: weird topic. I don't know. I think it's just it's
Speaker 1: just fame, dude, That's all it is. Like it's at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, all it goes down to.
Speaker 1: It just fame and no shape like people. Obviously I'm
Speaker 1: an influencer to like, people gotta make their money. Everyone
Speaker 1: has their own way to make their money. And I
Speaker 1: don't think that it's a problem for people to use
Speaker 1: social media as an outlet for money, Like, if that's
Speaker 1: where it's coming from, Like, go ahead, go for it.
Speaker 1: If you're doing something else, good for you to Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think it downgrades how much effort or work
Speaker 1: that you do. I feel like you're putting just as
Speaker 1: much work as anybody else. Yeah, and that's one thing
Speaker 1: that um, I had to kind of come to peace
Speaker 1: with because the first time I ever heard the word
Speaker 1: influencer was when I was trying to get a show
Speaker 1: on a network, right, and they were like, okay, so
Speaker 1: but what do you do And I'm like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: come on reality shows and like no, but we need
Speaker 1: you to do something and I'm like what, Like They're like,
Speaker 1: but you're more like an influencer, and it was kind
Speaker 1: of like a negative connotation, you know, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: wait a second, like we just said, you know, it
Speaker 1: takes a lot of work and it's time consuming to
Speaker 1: also be an influencer. But anyways, yes, I agree, whether
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's a blessing that you can
Speaker 1: use social media now to have your own business to
Speaker 1: sell products. You know, it's a blessing. So whatever works
Speaker 1: for whoever it is, I think it's it's fine. Yep,
Speaker 1: I agree. I loved this conversation that we've had, and
Speaker 1: thank you both for being a part of this podcast
Speaker 1: and just having an open conversation. I wanted to just
Speaker 1: kind of get in your guys mind, see what you
Speaker 1: guys were thinking. I think because we come from the
Speaker 1: same womb and you guys were raised by wonderful, powerful,
Speaker 1: great women. You know, just kidding, You guys are great.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear your guys thoughts and your
Speaker 1: opinions on these things, because I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like I'm a traditional in some ways
Speaker 1: and then in other ways I'm not. I'm very open minded.
Speaker 1: I just think it has to do lot with how
Speaker 1: you're raised. At the end of the day, al right, guys,
Speaker 1: so thank you again. If you guys want to share
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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Okay, guys, Well make sure to follow them.
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Speaker 1: end every episode with a motivational quote, and I feel
Speaker 1: like it goes very well with what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: The quote is love is the greatest gift that one
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Speaker 1: a millennial or a gen Z doesn't matter. At the
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