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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks. Ten takeaways from week nine

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Speaker 1: with Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, and Rhett Lewis. What's up everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, A big takeaway podcast. Ready to

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Speaker 1: go today, boys, we have a lot of ground to

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Speaker 1: get to. I will just add one thing before we

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Speaker 1: game to talk to Tony Romo, and uh Romo said

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Speaker 1: Buck about not specializing in sports. He's got three boys,

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Speaker 1: uh so he's with us. He's with the Move the

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Speaker 1: don't don't specialize. So I thought that was that. How

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Speaker 1: about that Tony Romo. Yeah, you've got some great conversations.

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Speaker 1: We've got to Move the Sticks promo there from Tony Romo.

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Speaker 1: We've gotten some aftermath promo from al Michaels. You've had

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Speaker 1: some nice conversations in your travels. This is good. This

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Speaker 1: whole Charger's gig is just that's just a PR campaign

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Speaker 1: for me. And then move the sticks brand here. That's

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Speaker 1: what we're doing here on these on these strips. But

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Speaker 1: It's always cool when you get some good feedback from

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Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. That's really that's really cool to acknowledge.

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Speaker 1: And Eddie tuned in like that's that's really true. I

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Speaker 1: are then we're receiving the most receiving the most votes,

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Speaker 1: Who cares about the coach day? Well, those guys even

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Speaker 1: watch the games. Okay, did you do you wanted to

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm legitimately concerned right now with how bad they

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Speaker 1: are as a team, but even more so, uh, man,

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Speaker 1: I hope that I hope that they find a way

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Speaker 1: to get his play turned around, because this is not

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Speaker 1: the same guy we saw at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: Is not the same guy, and I'm worried because of

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Speaker 1: the giveaways. Nine giveaways in his last three games, too

433
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Speaker 1: many turnovers at the position. Sam Donald is old enough

434
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Speaker 1: to be able to hurt their message, and heated that message.

435
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Speaker 1: Just don't turn the ball over. But we'll see. Uh,

436
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 1: it's a unique situation. Uh what he is in the

437
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Speaker 1: middle of in New York. And would you see if

438
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Speaker 1: they can kind of flip it around and get the

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Speaker 1: organization back to try and to navigate the winning track.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, what's next? The Chiefs are more than

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Speaker 1: Mahomes checking in ten Chiefs at the forty of the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: No score, it's just the second drive for the chief

443
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Speaker 1: spikes of that to three ounce again a fake handoff

444
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Speaker 1: More at the right hash gunning it long. He once

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Speaker 1: hell right side touch extratched for the end zone touchdown

446
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Speaker 1: Chanson City. It is a forty yard bomb Matt More

447
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Speaker 1: to the Chata who tracks it, catches it and dives

448
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Speaker 1: it into the end zone. You know, I'm I'm look.

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Speaker 1: I love Pat Mahomes and what Pat Mahomes has done,

450
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Speaker 1: but I think the two weeks with him being out

451
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Speaker 1: the lie up has allowed us to see how talented

452
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Speaker 1: this offense really is. In Kansas City, the supporting cast

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Speaker 1: that they have they really elevate the play of the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And when you mix in a talented quarterback, I mean

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Speaker 1: you talk about going from good to great and great

456
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Speaker 1: to excellent. And when I look at this Chief's offense

457
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Speaker 1: with Matt Moore, is just illustrates the kind of weapons

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Speaker 1: that he has at his disposal. Tyreek Hill we heard

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Speaker 1: on the radio call taking it deep. Can he steals making?

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, Nicole Hardeman and Sammy Watkins and Travis

461
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: Kelsey and all these guys that have remember making plays.

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Speaker 1: You saw Damian Williams go bed with Shade McCoy still

463
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Speaker 1: being available. And so when I look at this team,

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Speaker 1: if they can continue to balanting out and really don't

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Speaker 1: put everything on Pat Mahomes, they're going to be a

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Speaker 1: hard out for opponents any postseason. The play that Tyree

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Speaker 1: Kill made d um in the first half, the forty

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Speaker 1: r touchdown, I mean he dove but landed on his feet.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen that before and then gathered himself enough

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Speaker 1: to where he dove again to get into the end zone. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean he he proves weekend and week out what

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Speaker 1: supreme athleticism can do in this game because he has

473
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Speaker 1: it on a different level than most folks are here

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. So like I am constantly amazed at

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Speaker 1: watching that. Dude. Yeah, no, no doubt that. Here's my takeaway.

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Speaker 1: And Buck, you kind of mentioned it in the title here. Um,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about Mahomes, I'm looking at it, and

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this team with with Matt Moore. And

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Speaker 1: look at the last couple of games for Matt Moore. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is against the Vikings and the Packers, Like, these

481
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: are not bad football teams. Um, this one, he's twenty

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Speaker 1: five or thirty five for two seventy five a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Note picks against Green Bay twenty four, thirty six to

484
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Speaker 1: sixty seven, two touchdowns, no picks. Those are really good games. Now,

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Speaker 1: the way I would describe this Chief's team, you look

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Speaker 1: before Pat Mahomes, look at the success they were having

487
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Speaker 1: with Alex Smith. This is a the Chiefs with the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff and the players, is a luxury automobile. It

489
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Speaker 1: is a luxury automobile. Now the differences you get Pat

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Speaker 1: mahomes ability Now, it's it's it's loaded. It's a luxury

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Speaker 1: car that you've added all the extras. Pat Mahomes adds

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Speaker 1: those extras. So instead of to seventy five, those are

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Speaker 1: three seventy five. Instead of two touchdowns, those are four touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just getting to the point of the The

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Speaker 1: foundation gets built without the quarterback is tremendous, and then

496
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Speaker 1: mahomes ability takes it to a whole another level. But

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Speaker 1: I think the nucleus they have in place, take the

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Speaker 1: quarterback out of it, this is still a This is

499
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Speaker 1: a nine win team, and then the quarterbacks what can

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Speaker 1: make this, you know, a super Bowl contender. Look, I

501
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Speaker 1: thoroughly agree. I just love what they're beginning to do

502
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: and the defense is beginning to play better. This was

503
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Speaker 1: a huge win for them without pay Mahomes to knock

504
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Speaker 1: off the Minnesota Vikings, even though it was at home, unexpected,

505
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Speaker 1: unexpected to see them play well and knockoff a team

506
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Speaker 1: that is really really beginning to emerge in the NFC North.

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Speaker 1: All right, should I get us to the next takeaway? Here? Uh,

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Speaker 1: you teased it, you might as well go pay it off.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, man, The box score numbers do not

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Speaker 1: tell the story of Deshaun Watson's brilliance. Watson waits he's

511
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Speaker 1: got the snaff, he's back. He looks right, fires ends

512
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Speaker 1: up talk touchdown Houston. DeAndre Hopkins with the touchsdowb Cats.

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Speaker 1: He will celebrte as the Texans go on top by

514
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Speaker 1: a score of three guys. Uh, what we're seeing from

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is nothing short of magnificent. The Jaguars came

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Speaker 1: into this game as the second best defense in term

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Speaker 1: of getting hits on quarterbacks. They got a couple of

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Speaker 1: hits on him. But I will say this, I went

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Speaker 1: back and looked at every play. Twenty three guys had

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Speaker 1: a shot to tackle and or sack Deshaun Watson and missed.

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00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: Twenty three guys had a shot to bring Deshaun Watson down.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it was multiple guys on one play. In fact,

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Speaker 1: on the one sack, they had he out of two

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Speaker 1: sacks before eventually getting sacked. Um on all the runs

525
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Speaker 1: and passes that I watched, I found one play where

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Speaker 1: the first guy in on Watson actually brought him down.

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00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: One play. It was Miles Jack and it was on

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00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: a three yard game. Although there were other times where

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Speaker 1: he slid and that's credit to Deshaun Watson not taking

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00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 1: unnecessary hits there. Um that his elusiveness in the pocket,

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Speaker 1: his awareness in the pocket, his ability to find a

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Speaker 1: way to make a play at all costs. Um that

533
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: both to his credit into his detriment at times dealing

534
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: with certain injuries throughout his career. Um is to be applauded.

535
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: And on another day where Bears fans are bemoaning the

536
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Speaker 1: choice to take Drabinsky instead of Watson, they should also

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Speaker 1: look at play design. You touched on it a little

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Speaker 1: bit there, because they were extremely limited in pocket movement

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Speaker 1: from what I saw with Rabinsky I mean not not

540
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Speaker 1: utilizing his athleticism in the least, especially in a first

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Speaker 1: half of this game. Where you go and watch that

542
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Speaker 1: game in London, Bill O'Brien had Watson moving all over

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00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: the place play action. They had guys that they had

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Speaker 1: backfield movement all over the place. That opened up the

545
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Speaker 1: run game. By the way, as well, carlos Hi Duke

546
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: Johnson were terrific uh in this game, and without Laramie Tunsil,

547
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: they had a tremendous game plan in order to limit

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Speaker 1: the amount of pressure that Deshaun Watson got, limit the

549
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Speaker 1: amount of hits that he was going to take, and

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Speaker 1: put him in positions where he could get out and

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Speaker 1: see the field cleanly, make a clean read. He was

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Speaker 1: getting the ball out of his hands quicker than I've

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Speaker 1: seen in recent games in this one, dude, and that

554
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: was a lot of it due to quick play action design,

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Speaker 1: play design. We saw on the one yard touchdown to

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Speaker 1: Darren Fell's boom, quick pull it out, boom balls out

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Speaker 1: of his hand in less than less than one and

558
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Speaker 1: a half seconds. I mean, that game plan and that

559
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: performance by Deshaun Watson was terrific. Look, they donna have

560
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Speaker 1: to continue to do these things because the best way

561
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: they can protect their offensive line is to get the

562
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Speaker 1: ball out of the hands so they don't have to

563
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: pass protech for long. Deshaun Watson has continued to grow

564
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Speaker 1: and emerge as one of those mad players at this position.

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00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: He did it in high school, he didn't in college,

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Speaker 1: he's doing it now in the pros. He always has

567
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: a knack of leading his team to the title game.

568
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: And so when I look at what they're doing and

569
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Speaker 1: what they're bubbling up Bill O'Brien with the running game,

570
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Speaker 1: with the weapons that they have on the outside, Kenney

571
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: Steels emerging as a dominant number three receiver to go

572
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Speaker 1: with Will Fuller and DeAndre Hopkins. This is a team

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Speaker 1: that is going to be a very problematic team to

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Speaker 1: prepare for when you're another team, because they do have

575
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: so many weapons and the quarterback is kind of a

576
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: wildcat wild card when it comes to his ability to

577
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: run and pass inside and outside the park. Two things.

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00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: Carlos hide with a hundred sixty rushing yards in this game,

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Speaker 1: so they've got some balance in this OFFENSEE without Larry

580
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: Counsel in this ballgame. That's big. Uh. The other thing

581
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Speaker 1: is talking about Deshaun Watson. He's the best in the

582
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Speaker 1: grasp thrower that I've ever evaluated. Another term in other words,

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Speaker 1: people hang out, you know, you know what, Compare them

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Speaker 1: to totally different body types. But Ben Roethlisberger, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, haven't scouted in that division for a long

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Speaker 1: time and seeing guys always hanging on him and him

587
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: still finding a way to get completions. Man, Deshaun Watson

588
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: does the same thing on a on a much slender frame. Uh.

589
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's uncanny, and we saw earlier this

590
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: year one play unfortunately got blown dead when it shouldn't

591
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: have been. I mean, if I'm Bill O'Brien, when I

592
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: go talk to the officials before every game. I'm gonna

593
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: be like, look, I know we were protecting my guys

594
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 1: different so they get their hands on him because he

595
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: makes unbelievable throws. So that to me was another big,

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00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, takeaway from this ballgame. And Buck, I want

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00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: you to get to your next point because I do

598
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: want to try and tie in, um, what we just

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Speaker 1: said about Deshaun Watson with your next point, because I

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00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: think there's a there's a story there. Go ahead, Russell.

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00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: Wilson is clutched first down and goals from the one again.

602
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: Now thirty four seconds left. Hawks still have two time

603
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: outs left, and Russell's gonna empty the backfield. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: send Carson Wine to the left, a tight trip set

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Speaker 1: to his right. Turner is one of those. Hollister is

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Speaker 1: one of those. Now Carson back into the end zone.

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00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: Play factor. Carson Hollisters open in the right plat he

608
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: makes the catchy guys in touchdowns from when you're on

609
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: up Hollister, the man the proke free from that trip

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00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: step ran into the front corner and he was wide open.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you look at the Cttlecahawks, it's easy

612
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: to kind of just fall in love with all the

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00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: things that Pete Carroll has always talked about, the defense

614
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: to running game, but now the officially Russell Wilson's team.

615
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is the guy that makes this thing go,

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Speaker 1: and this performance against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers really kind

617
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: of let everyone know what he is capable of doing

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Speaker 1: when he has to put it on his right arm.

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Speaker 1: Look twenty nine forty three eight yards, five touchdowns. We

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Speaker 1: saw the clutch plays. DJ. We talked about this when

621
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: we're talking to Jay Keep how it seems like Russell

622
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Speaker 1: waits into the fourth quarter before he starts using his leg.

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Speaker 1: When you watched this game, critical situations in the fourth quarter,

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00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: up out the door or Russell Wilson runs, he really

625
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: understands how to save his best pitches for those closing opportunities.

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Speaker 1: And that is what he's continued to do. And that's

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Speaker 1: what he did against Tampa Bay Buccaneers when they needed

628
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Speaker 1: him to run and make plays, that's when he did it.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise he stayed to the script delivered from the pocket

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Speaker 1: and still has success. I'm gonna just pull this back.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to tie this together for for guys, so

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Speaker 1: for me, like I don't get m v P vote.

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Speaker 1: If I got an m v P vote, it's Russell

634
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Speaker 1: Wilson clearly number one and Deshaun Watson clearly number two,

635
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Speaker 1: which is exciting. I mean, when you watch the way

636
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Speaker 1: these guys play, I don't think that you could take

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Speaker 1: any other quarterbacks in the NFL, save maybe Mahomes that

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Speaker 1: you could put in the situations to do everything that's

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Speaker 1: asked of them. In other words, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: team asks more of their quarterbacks than when you look

641
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Speaker 1: at Russell Wilson and you look at Deshaun Watson for

642
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Speaker 1: everything that they can do. And and in this game

643
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Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson, I watched this game, Buck, there's ten

644
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Speaker 1: twelve throws or just darts, just a ridiculous big time

645
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Speaker 1: throws from the pocket um and then I give credit

646
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: look at Marty uh Marty Shall. Brian Schottenheimer's got a

647
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: lot of grief over his career as a play caller.

648
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: I tip my cap because when I look at this team,

649
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: they find stuff that works, and then they dress it

650
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: up differently and run the same exact thing. They had

651
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: some three by one stuff going where when they were

652
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: seeing off man coverage they put Locket by himself, they

653
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: would run the three off. They could either run him

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Speaker 1: on crosses, just get them vertically up the field and

655
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Speaker 1: lay let him just drag shallow cross across the field.

656
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: And he had all that real estate and they got

657
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of big time plays off that. Then they

658
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: were able to find you know, kind of a quick

659
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: little wheel route, um that they were able to get

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Speaker 1: with Lockett. They hit that twice. They hit DK Metcalf

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Speaker 1: on a two man route, max protection on that deep

662
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: cross or for a touchdown. It's the exact same concept

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Speaker 1: that they hit against the Rams with Metcalf on a

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Speaker 1: deep crosser. Like I I like when teams have an

665
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: identity and they know who they are and what they

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Speaker 1: do well, and they just do it over and over again.

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00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: That's what I see from the Seattle Seahawks. But guys,

668
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: all these debate shows who's the MPP, there is no debate.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is the I mean, if you know what,

670
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Speaker 1: and that's not a slight on anyone else town. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: come on now, look I get that. Um, I'll roll

672
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Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson at this point. Um, if we're if

673
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Speaker 1: we're building a franchise right now, he's still on the

674
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Speaker 1: on the rookie deal. He's on I'm taking to Shawn Watson.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing I'll say is we talked a

676
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Speaker 1: lot about these number two for me but great. We

677
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Speaker 1: talked about DK Metcalf being, you know, maybe a one

678
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Speaker 1: trick pony in terms of the route tree. I almost

679
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: don't care anymore because if he just masters that deep

680
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: over out, he can win with that thing all the time.

681
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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna show us that a bit later

682
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Speaker 1: in the aftermath as well. He's getting better, Buck, he's

683
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: getting better. They ran a curl and you actually saw

684
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: him settle a little bit, So he's getting you know,

685
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: you're starting to see some baby stuffs in the meantime.

686
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Speaker 1: The guys a threat to score from anywhere on the field.

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Speaker 1: I'll take that, look, I'll take it. I mean he

688
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Speaker 1: makes plays in when I look at d K mick

689
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Speaker 1: if it's very similar to what it again Jr. Has

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Speaker 1: been able to do in this league. Sometimes sometimes you

691
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Speaker 1: just find a couple of things that you do really,

692
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Speaker 1: really well, and you're a coordinator only asked you to

693
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Speaker 1: do those things. I think the Seattle Seahawks understand what

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf is. They're not asking him to do something

695
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Speaker 1: that he's not capable of doing, and he's having a

696
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Speaker 1: lot of success on those vertical routes. Keep throwing him

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Speaker 1: to vertical ross into someone's shows to take can slow

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Speaker 1: it down and can we one thing real quick? I

699
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Speaker 1: think that is I think buck, Oh my gosh, this

700
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Speaker 1: is Ted Ginn is the honey I shrunk the kid's

701
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Speaker 1: version of Metcalf. I mean, that is exactly who he is.

702
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: That's the same skill set. It's just in the supersized body. Yeah,

703
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Speaker 1: that's who he is. Where's Rick moranis that movie? Yeah?

704
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Speaker 1: Not like that's perfect. I think we're in that conversation

705
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Speaker 1: right there. That's that's a perfect punctuation to end it.

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Speaker 1: You want to take us to the next Yeah, Raiders,

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Speaker 1: they found a winning formula. Jacobs who scored the Raiders

708
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Speaker 1: touchdown earlier. Williams is off to the left. Now in

709
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Speaker 1: the row, will come in tight to the right. Here's

710
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Speaker 1: the toss. Jacobs cut back those end zone dives to

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Speaker 1: the end zone ur Raider touchdown. Wow, he volts into

712
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Speaker 1: the black hole for the celebration. We keep saying it.

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Speaker 1: Find your formula and I think we've hit this a

714
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: couple of times on the takeaway podcasts over the weeks.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders, when they can run the football like this,

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Speaker 1: they commit to it. They've got an offensive line one

717
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Speaker 1: of the few that gets pushed. Uh in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: they get a lot of push at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: Even without Rodney Hudson in this game, UH, they were

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Speaker 1: still able to control the line of scrimmage. Hunter twenty

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Speaker 1: yards for Jacobs. And what does that do? It makes

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Speaker 1: life a lot easier on Derek Carr, who's in more

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Speaker 1: clean pockets. He only got sacked one time. UM, and

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Speaker 1: I thought one of the cleaner games, more efficient games

725
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Speaker 1: there from Derek Carr while not being passive. I think

726
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: they had their shots. They took them. Look, I mean

727
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Speaker 1: this this is how the Raiders have to play. The

728
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: Raiders have to play. I mean they have a a

729
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: small window that they that they can play in and win.

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Speaker 1: And the reason they're able to win this way is

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Speaker 1: because big, physical offensive line. Josh Jacobs is a man

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Speaker 1: shot with the ball in his hands, Derek Carr can

733
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Speaker 1: play efficiently win the game is set up for him,

734
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Speaker 1: and then they're able to kind of dominate possession, so

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00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: their defense isn't on the field when the Raiders are

736
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Speaker 1: able to kind of dictate the terms, that is, when

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Speaker 1: they're able to win games. If they're forced off of

738
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: this track, they have a tough time winning. But John

739
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: Gruten has certainly found that if we play this way,

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00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: we can win a number of games. And that's why

741
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: it's working for the Raiders right now. Guys. A quick

742
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Speaker 1: take on the Lions. You know this is this has

743
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: been a really tough season. They have been in just

744
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: about every one of these games that they have played,

745
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: and they have come up on the wrong side in

746
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: some some really tight games. You go back to the

747
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: Chiefs game back the week one, in the game they

748
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: tied that they should have won. Uh, they here, they

749
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: have a shot to win it on the last play

750
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: of the game and from like the two yard line

751
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: and they can't quite get in. But Matthew Stafford is

752
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: playing maybe as well as I've seen him playing the

753
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: last five seasons or so. Um, Kenny Golladay and Marvin

754
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: Jones are underrated. One of the better wide receiver duos

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00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: in football right now. Um, that's a club that I

756
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: think still has some juice that could still have something

757
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: to say in the wild card race if they can,

758
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: if they can start coming up on the right side

759
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: of some of these games. Interesting, every single one of

760
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: their games, save one, has been a one score win

761
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: or lose. They're there and every game the Chargers were

762
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: the same boat until this team against Green Bay. Every

763
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: single one of their games has been one score game.

764
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: And and when it happens, when every game is contested

765
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: like that, he ends up winning some you probably should lose.

766
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: You end up losing some you should probably win. And

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00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of been the case there with

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Speaker 1: the Lions. All right, let's get let's keep it moving, buck,

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Speaker 1: What what's your next one? Christian McCaffrey, is the really

770
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: m VP double tights both on the right, shoulder to

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00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: shoulder McCaffrey, right out there, a free may score to

772
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Speaker 1: the forty to the thirty foot race twenty to the

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Speaker 1: ten yard line. Yes, sir, he scores a touchdown foot speed,

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Speaker 1: I mean in the open field, just bragging for the

775
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: last five yards Adore Jackson into the end zone. Look, man,

776
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: Christi McCaffrey, what happened? I thought we were already happened

777
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: that Canada. I thought you were on board, and I

778
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: like those guys, but I'm saying in terms of who

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00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: is most valuable to their team, I think this year

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00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: Chris McCaffrey has shown he is the most valuable member

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00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: of the Carolina Panthers. He does everything for them, and

782
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: I think the thing that is is really encouraging for

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00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers when you look at Chris McCaffrey. I

784
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: know they took him eighth overall and they thought he

785
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: would be in every down back maybe, but I don't

786
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: know if anyone could envision him dominating the league the

787
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: way that he has been able to do it. He

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00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown a scrimmer's touchdown in six straight games

789
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: against the Tennessee Titans, twenty four carries a hundred forty

790
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: six yards. You heard to call him the big play.

791
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: Chris McCaffrey has shown that he is able to do

792
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Speaker 1: at all, and I think it is not a wild

793
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: statement to say that he's the best running back in

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Speaker 1: the league. I don't know if anybody can do what

795
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: he's to do like this guy inside outside, catching it,

796
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: running between the tackles, scoring touchdowns. He does everything for

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Yeah, Look, Buck, he's on pace for

798
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Speaker 1: seventeen hundred and sixty two rushing yards. He's on pace

799
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Speaker 1: for eighty four catches, seven hundred twenty six yards and

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Speaker 1: a total of twenty six touchdowns. I mean it's yeah,

801
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: he's having a huge, huge year. And I take that back. Look,

802
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: he belongs absolutely with what he's doing. He belongs in

803
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Speaker 1: that discussion, in the top two or three, no doubt,

804
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: in the m v P race, I'll still go Russell Wilson,

805
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: but McCaffrey's in that. He's in the discussion. And if

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Speaker 1: you make the argument that no one asks more of

807
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks than the Seahawks due of Wilson then and

808
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: the Texans due of Watson, no one asks more of

809
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: any running back, then what the Panthers don't have any offense?

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Speaker 1: Of what the Panthers are doing with Shan McCaffrey on

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Speaker 1: a daily basis, I mean, like in a game by

812
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: game basis, he'll get you a touchdown from in close,

813
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: from five yards retaining and he's gonna explode for one

814
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: to The explosive plays have been game changers for the

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Speaker 1: Panthers offense in a season where they haven't necessarily had

816
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: a dynamic pass game, I mean, and everyone knows the

817
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: ball is going to McCaffrey, and still he's finding room.

818
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: In the run game, he's making guys miss and that

819
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Speaker 1: that open field speed apparently second only to a Dory

820
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Speaker 1: Jackson who caught up with him on that one long run.

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Speaker 1: And it shows you how long, how fast Dorry Jackson

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Speaker 1: is without question, alright. Last one, this is from the

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night, the big Sunay Night game. Here the Ravens

824
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Speaker 1: they outmuscle the Patriots. This needle break out wide to

825
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: the right as they break the huddle on second end

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Speaker 1: goal from the five first and Roberts to the left,

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Speaker 1: Gus Edwards behind Lamar Jackson in the pistol formation, now

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Speaker 1: Hurst in motion from left to right. Jackson with a

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Speaker 1: play fake, throws to the left side open as the

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Speaker 1: tight end, Nick Boyle, diving across the goal line for

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Speaker 1: the touchdown. Nick Boyle had never had a touchdown in

832
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Speaker 1: the National Football League, but the fifth year man from

833
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: Delaware has just scored to give the Ravens a thirty

834
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: league only fitting that the blocking tight end would catch

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Speaker 1: a touchdown in this ballgame, because this game was all

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Speaker 1: about the bigs um you know, Lamar Jackson was outstanding

837
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: his threat as a runner. Look, he ran for sixty

838
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: one yards and two touchdowns. But you can find all

839
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Speaker 1: the other big runs from mark Ingram where he went

840
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: for a buck fifteen where the presence of Lamar Jackson

841
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: in the running game having to account for him was

842
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: an issue for the Baltimore Ravens and uh, you know, Buck,

843
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: I've I've played in an offense that where we you know,

844
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: we're an option team and when we would see certain fronts,

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00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: bear fronts, um you know, cover zero looks, we would

846
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: check the option because what you do is you add

847
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: another number to the mix. And then you saw in

848
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: this game the option was big. The zone read stuff

849
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: was big. But the way they're able to manipulate it,

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00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: you had another runner into the running game and the

851
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: the Patriots never were able to figure this thing out.

852
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: Now I'm never able to figure it out. And I

853
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: mean like it was problematic and you could tell from

854
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: the jump the Baltimore Ravens had a great plan against

855
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots defense. And I think the thing

856
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: that was really most impressive in the Ravens performers, look,

857
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: I knew Lamar Jackson could run it and do some

858
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: special things. But I think what we saw is when

859
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: he commands so much attention, it really opens up the

860
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: rest of the running game for everybody else. We saw

861
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: mark ingram Gut, the Patriots, we saw Gus Edwards have

862
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: some big runs. This Ravens team is one that is

863
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: really really difficult to prepare for in a short week.

864
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: I just think, I just think what they do is

865
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: so unique. They are challenge. I think people can catch

866
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: up with him in the playoffs, but man, in the

867
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: regular season, if you haven't seen them, you're not familiar

868
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: with the the option re game that they're using. It

869
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: is a problem. We saw that the Patriots had a

870
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: tough time defending them. Is unique or is what we

871
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: saw from Army and Air Force over the weekend? Means

872
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, I was having that conversation, you know the

873
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: stat the stat though the stat though red, But Bucky,

874
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: you brought up a great point. I don't want to

875
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: let that go real quick, because you talked about the

876
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: difference between the regular season and the postseason, and if

877
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: you look at last year, like I I saw a

878
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: you know, Chargers team, see this offense, and then turn

879
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: around and see it again, and I saw the difference.

880
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: And if you look at I'm looking at the teams

881
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: that they've played, uh this year, and you look at

882
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: some of the games inside the division. Look the Bengals

883
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: game twenty three to seventeen. They won, but that's a

884
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: close contested game. The Steelers game twenty six to twenty three,

885
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: they get their doors blown off by the Browns. Like,

886
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: the teams that get more familiar with this offense do

887
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: have a little bit better success. So I'm anxious to

888
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: see when you've played a team like the Chiefs. Now

889
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: they lost them, was a good game thirty three or

890
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: twenty eight, but potentially could see the Chiefs again. Now

891
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: you beat the Patriots, you could see the Patriots again. Uh.

892
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: So it's fascinating to me the difference between when you

893
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: see these this offense with Lamar Jackson the first time

894
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: with when you see it the second time. It'll be

895
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: interesting to see. Man, it's so fun to watch, but

896
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: I think it does summon questions of long term viability.

897
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: Is this something that you can coach your defense to

898
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: deal with on a weekly basis when you only have

899
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: three or four or five days to prepare, um, you know,

900
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: I think we saw. Yeah, it's it's probably worth asking

901
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: the question, you know, what did the Chargers do, as

902
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: you were mentioning in the playoffs in order to steiny

903
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: the Ravens the Ravens offense? So, um, you know, is

904
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: there a defense out there. It's gonna be able to

905
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 1: figure this thing out, either within a game plan over

906
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: the course of a week or within an actual game

907
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: and game plan up some adjustments to deal with it.

908
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: When it's an offense that you don't see on a

909
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: weekly basis. Yeah, it's it's funny because I'm looking at

910
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: it and it's really like a like a I won't

911
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: say disrespectfully, but it's a high school offense. It's an

912
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: offense that you will see on Friday nights in terms

913
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: of the read option games some of the things that

914
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: they're doing. Um, but they put you in a buy

915
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: because DJ you talked about playing in an option offense,

916
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: and we know we've seen these games where option teams

917
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: have these explosions because you just can't figure out how

918
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: your assignments are supposed to go. Who has what, who's

919
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: on the dive, who's on the pitch, who as the quarterback?

920
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: And so they do make it very, very complex and

921
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: complicated for you. The challenge will be the Ravens right

922
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: now have been one step ahead of the curve in

923
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: terms of everybody, like they're able to do these new

924
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: wrinkles each and every week. But are they going to

925
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: exhaust the playbook by the time they get to the

926
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: regular season. What's going to be the big thing they

927
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: can throw on people when they get into the playoffs

928
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: to keep them off their scent? Yeah, And I'm think

929
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: it's not viable long term. It just think it's a

930
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: question that you have to ask because it's funny though,

931
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: because I had this conversation with somebody. We're so used

932
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: to seeing offensive coordinators get credit for their creativity in

933
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: the passing game. The Baltimore Ravens have decided to add

934
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: the creativity to the running game, and I think that's

935
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: something that we're not used to seeing their wrinkles now

936
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: happen in the run game as opposed to the past game.

937
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: And I think it's one of those things that defense

938
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: coordinators aren't used to adjusting to. And DJ on the

939
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: flip side for the Patriots offensively, kind of something that

940
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: we haven't really seen from them in recent Patriots history.

941
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: Is just running out the same personnel group on every snap.

942
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean they were eleven personnel hundred percent of the time.

943
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: Ben Watson, Mohammed Sanu, and Julian Edelman all played every

944
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: single snap in this game. Uh and Philip Dorsett only

945
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: came out for one play. So they were they were

946
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: rolling those three white outs Watson, and then they did

947
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: rotate the backs a little bit and they went up tempo,

948
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: and I think you could see it affect the Ravens defense,

949
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: especially when they got down into the deeper into some

950
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: drives um. But it might have also affected the Patriots

951
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: a little bit too. I mean you mentioned you saw it.

952
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: On the play before the Edelman fumble. He looked a

953
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: little fatigued, he was gassed, and he looked he had

954
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: just had a big play, and he looked over the

955
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: sideline and Buck, It's one of those moments where I'm

956
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: just expecting to tap his helmet, like, okay, give me here,

957
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: and he looked at the sideline and you can kind

958
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: of almost see him say no, I'm I'm going back out.

959
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: So he kind of puts his head down, kind of

960
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: jogs back to the huddle, gets the ball. The next

961
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: play and then he fumbles and I was like, that

962
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: was a tired dude right there. Uh, he probably should

963
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: have have tapped out. He does not feel now they

964
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: typically don't. We saw we saw the ball hit the

965
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: ground more on the Sunday night game than we typically

966
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: have seen. And I do believe the Patriots did stumble

967
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: onto something. Normally, when they get out of source, they

968
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: do try and ramp up the tempo because if you

969
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: can get a couple of first downs, you get the

970
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: team in the statu look, you wear them out. And

971
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: there were three consecutive series where the Patriots had the ball.

972
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: They had two at the end of the first half

973
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: and then one that started out and we saw them

974
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: makeup ground and so the pace allowed them to wear

975
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: down the Ravens. But then the flip side of that

976
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: is if you're going that fast and you're not able

977
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: to convert your defenses on the field. And in the

978
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: first part of the game, we saw the Ravens have

979
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: a four team play drive, then maybe another twelve play drive,

980
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: and you saw the wearing effects of this physical run

981
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: game that they employ. Yeah, if I'm the New England

982
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: Patriots right now, I'm legitimately concerned about my defense because

983
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: this is two weeks in a row where you've got

984
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: the ball just jammed down your throat. Um, I am concerned.

985
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm actually encouraged by the offense. Mohammed Sanu was built

986
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: to play for the Patriots. These big, smart, tough, physical,

987
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: and easy. He's a nice addition to that group. I mean,

988
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. Bluck. We've talked about this before,

989
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: about my you know, my kind of theory on where

990
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: this team goes. And I think to kill Harry, you'll

991
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: see him get involved here. But when to kill Harry

992
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: and Mohammed Sanu, They're gonna use those big guys to

993
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: bludgeon people in the run game, and then when they

994
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: start to go up temple like this, you want to

995
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: match them with smaller guys. Uh, They're gonna out physically

996
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,479
Speaker 1: in the passing game as well. I think that's where

997
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: this offense is headed. They're gonna use those guys as

998
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: as basically quasi tied ends. They they get the benefit

999
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: of their physicality and toughness in the run game because

1000
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: they can block. And then the size and so you're

1001
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: going to have to make a decision, are we gonna

1002
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: play to wide receivers with linebackers and safeties. Are we

1003
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: gonna put the little guys in? Eventually we know how

1004
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: the Patriots kind of find themselves. The end of this month,

1005
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: November and December, we will see them kind of settle

1006
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: into a style and that would be the style to

1007
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: employ in the playoffs. And you better have an answer

1008
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: for a lastly, I think we gotta get out of here.

1009
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: But I just since we brought up some new can

1010
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: we go back to the the twelve draft just for a

1011
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: quick second here, because I am wondering. This is a

1012
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: year where the Patriots took Dante hid Tower in the

1013
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: first round and took Chandler Jones in the first round,

1014
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: the two first round picks. Then they took Tavon Wilson

1015
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: right in the second round, and then in the third

1016
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: Mohammed Sanu went eighty three overall of the Bengals. About

1017
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: six picks later, the Patriots took Jake Beckett, uh defensive

1018
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: end from Arkansas. I'm wondering what the conversation was there

1019
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: inside that Patriots draft for room, and I was like,

1020
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: all right, we got a kid from Rutgers here at

1021
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver that we really like, I mean, are we

1022
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: considered trading up to get him. I mean like that

1023
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 1: would have been that would have been kind of interesting

1024
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: because you know that Belichick had his eye on on

1025
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: a guy from Rutgers. Yeah, all right, that's a great call.

1026
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: Good poll, right, h Anything else you guys want to

1027
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: before we get out of here. Beefy show today, really good,

1028
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: really good show. Right there, Rhett, No, man, I'm good,

1029
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm coming. I just gave you my my nugget the

1030
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: bucket studying the rest of this draft class here Rhett Ellison,

1031
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick by the way, the giants of

1032
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: the Vikings rather well, there you go, there you go.

1033
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: All right, We've got a couple more episodes coming up

1034
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: later this week. I did mention at the top that

1035
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: I got a chance to go see Oregon and Justin Herbert, so, uh,

1036
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: we probably get to Thursday's episode. I'll have some thoughts

1037
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: on that and uh and what the rest of this

1038
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: quarterback class looks like. We have a chance to preview

1039
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: that big matchup with two on burrow L s U

1040
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: in Alabama squaring off this week. So we've got a

1041
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: couple more episodes coming your way. Looking forward to those.

1042
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for checking us out. Make sure you

1043
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: check out the video's NFL dot com slash mts video.

1044
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: You can find that romo video early on the Music Today.

1045
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us. I'll catch you next time, right,

1046
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: you got the sticks