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Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. Oh, what a beautiful day
Speaker 1: to talk cowboys here at the Star in Frisco. It's
Speaker 1: a Thursday morning, and welcome to Talking Cowboys. Bill Jones
Speaker 1: with Brian brought us and Rob Phillips and Mickey Spagnola
Speaker 1: will be along shortly. What a difference a day makes
Speaker 1: around this place? Yesterday was awful? Are you looking at
Speaker 1: me for some reason? And I did listen to yesterday's show, Yes,
Speaker 1: And what a difference a day makes for Brian brought us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: feeling much better today, right, So did that, So did
Speaker 1: the young men that went out with me. Listened to
Speaker 1: the show. And I got all these messages these guys
Speaker 1: send to me. Haha, life short kind of a message,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate everybody's saying I look better. By the
Speaker 1: time I got to do periscope with Ambar late in
Speaker 1: the day and it was like boy, it brought us
Speaker 1: you rehydrated. Well, you look fresh. I saw you later
Speaker 1: in the day and I didn't notice. Yeah, well, Phil,
Speaker 1: trust me, you and I are about the same age.
Speaker 1: Not easy being us. He's a gamer though. Like the
Speaker 1: first two minutes of yesterday's show. I heard it, I
Speaker 1: sound awful. He could barely speak, I know. And as
Speaker 1: we got along entertaining. It was entertaining. But as we
Speaker 1: got along, now you picked it up. You're That's what
Speaker 1: champions do. I appreciate all the well wishes, folks. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to I got a great fifteen hours of sleep.
Speaker 1: I'm ready. The youngsters you went out with on Tuesday night,
Speaker 1: Christmas night, yeah, how was their day yesterday? Well, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, they were fine. No, those kids
Speaker 1: are fine, and they they they roll, they go to work,
Speaker 1: get up, roll out of bed, go to work. The
Speaker 1: old man just doesn't make it that way. And so
Speaker 1: at what age do we stop doing stupid things? I
Speaker 1: thought it was a long time ago for me. I
Speaker 1: used to burn the midnight oil and then there was
Speaker 1: a certain point that I didn't do it anymore. And
Speaker 1: I'm trying to really got married age that was? And
Speaker 1: you got married, did you kind of stop doing stupid things. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was at another level before Marridge. Yeah, it did. Still.
Speaker 1: I think once you hit thirty. Once I hit thirty,
Speaker 1: I kind of stopped doing the downtown uptown thing. Were
Speaker 1: you were you a night? Al Like you seem like
Speaker 1: a fun guy to go out because you seem very responsible,
Speaker 1: Like if you see somebody having too much to drink,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna let him drink anymore. I don't have
Speaker 1: me friends like that. Where where were you the other night? Yeah?
Speaker 1: With it was twelve family members. Yes, Rob's running all
Speaker 1: over the place. Rob's a great teammate because I see
Speaker 1: Rob is not letting people do anything stupid. No, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that to you. Even
Speaker 1: if your wedding you let me kind of you were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I don't. I don't remember anything about that. The
Speaker 1: whole thing was blurred, but I do remember you kissing
Speaker 1: me on the cheek. I appreciate that. That was why. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was Yeah, did you kiss anybody on the cheek
Speaker 1: Tuesday night? Brian that you were called? No? Okay, I didn't,
Speaker 1: all right, I was good and Mickey I did sing
Speaker 1: what's the song John Demmer's uh Rocky Mountain. Yeah, Christmas heven,
Speaker 1: West Virginia. I sang that song as loud as I
Speaker 1: could possibly sing it in a bar, did you? And
Speaker 1: it was the I'm sorry, John Denver, I did that
Speaker 1: to you. But yeah, I thought you would sing a
Speaker 1: Christmas song from John Denver on Nestmas night, Daddy, don't
Speaker 1: get drunk this Christmas Dad. That was that. It should
Speaker 1: have probably said that talk about take me Home Country Road,
Speaker 1: take Me Home Country, Yes, closed. Everybody sings it's like sweet,
Speaker 1: It's like sweet, It's like sweet Caroline. Right, everybody knows
Speaker 1: the words that song. Ye in a West Virginia your
Speaker 1: football game, they say all night long. Yeah, And there
Speaker 1: was another song you were say Alabama. It wasn't sweet
Speaker 1: Home Alabama. There's another Alabama song that they played before gaming.
Speaker 1: You hear that when you're taking an L. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: played that. You're just automatically you're taking an LL. But
Speaker 1: Mickey made a great point. He didn't recall that any
Speaker 1: places open on a Christmas. Yeah, there's there's places that
Speaker 1: I heard The Rustic was open on Yeah. There's establishments, folks,
Speaker 1: folks kind of fine establishment They do all their, They
Speaker 1: do all their their You do all your Christmas stuff
Speaker 1: in the morning and then at night you go meet
Speaker 1: all your your fruit and I know, movie theaters doing
Speaker 1: great business on Gritic. Yeah, that's a big night for movies, right,
Speaker 1: big night game movies. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, you go and
Speaker 1: do all that. Yeah, all right, cowboys here. Glad he's better.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's feel But it was that was funny yesterday.
Speaker 1: I joined that. I appreciate it. I didn't mean you
Speaker 1: had great conversations about rust rests. Yeah, I needed rest.
Speaker 1: I need somebody to take me out of it. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, if you talking to folks and rob I
Speaker 1: don't know, if you visit with anybody, yes, say Bill,
Speaker 1: you might have. I'm sure Mickey when he comes rolling
Speaker 1: in here. You know. The only thing that I heard
Speaker 1: differently about a rotation was that the more that Jackson
Speaker 1: was more involved, and you know Darius Jackson did, it
Speaker 1: wasn't Dak Prescott and Cooper Rush split and reps and
Speaker 1: it wasn't The offensive line was with the exception of
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith and Zack Martin, it was all hands on deck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, but you know, and then you look at
Speaker 1: the in the defensive line without the exception of Tyron
Speaker 1: crowd By the way, I had eggs this morning with
Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford. He was ordering the line. Looked good, looked good,
Speaker 1: you know, well doing well. Yeah, he out ordered me.
Speaker 1: He out ordered it. There you go. Yeah, how can
Speaker 1: a big fact guy let me get out ordered? You
Speaker 1: know on food at a bar or no here a star.
Speaker 1: But no, Tyron Crawford looked good. I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: he physically looked good, you know, moving on in his
Speaker 1: backpack on kind of moving around excellent. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: please be okay. Brian hates nothing more than being out ordered.
Speaker 1: I hate being out ordered on the road wherever. That's first,
Speaker 1: I will challenge you for the first play, the first
Speaker 1: time they set your plate in front of you and
Speaker 1: I look at your plate and I'm thinking, man, I
Speaker 1: just got out ordered. You know. That's that's But anyway,
Speaker 1: in terms of volume or just the presentation presentation, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have you start with clam chowder, and I don't
Speaker 1: you know, and then I'm thinking, oh god, he's got this,
Speaker 1: this guy Gala's got their game on. And then that
Speaker 1: you bring in and I'm going, oh, My goal is
Speaker 1: to out order you once at the combine I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: You'll get in. You'll the best I can. But but
Speaker 1: I usually fail on the first order, but I will
Speaker 1: make up for it and the on the when I
Speaker 1: go back for the second second time around. You know
Speaker 1: what's going on. But yeah, Mickey, we're talking about just
Speaker 1: the only different rotation you might have talked to some folks.
Speaker 1: The only different rotation that I was kind of hearing
Speaker 1: about was the running back one with Jackson getting some
Speaker 1: more reps. Anybody tell you anything differently or that they
Speaker 1: were all they were playing the same way status quo. No,
Speaker 1: but I assumed he was going to So that doesn't suffrise.
Speaker 1: Do what now it looks good? Oh yeah, well, what's
Speaker 1: the occasion I wanted to out dress you? Yeah he did.
Speaker 1: I had to get dressed up to Bill's got I
Speaker 1: was getting my Will McClay segment today. So I had
Speaker 1: a shower this morning. Very good. Bill's got a nine
Speaker 1: ten eighteen tea time the guest Christmas sweater. That's what
Speaker 1: addition is like, Yeah, it looks good. I've got a
Speaker 1: bunch of TV stuff to do today. So I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be changing three times there you go, all right,
Speaker 1: we've all seen that at the so it's like camp,
Speaker 1: let's just go right out in the open. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: welcome to so dinner. What I feel sorry for people
Speaker 1: that just got to hang out there. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: ten I go in. Yeah, the running back rotation you're
Speaker 1: speaking of. Yeah, So, so do you think Zeke's gonna play? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do? I do? And how now how much and
Speaker 1: and and for that matter, how much are certain starters
Speaker 1: going to play? Once you get into the later stages
Speaker 1: of that game, we'll see, I think. But Jason Garrett's
Speaker 1: not acting like anybody's gonna sit down. No, you know
Speaker 1: he's not. But he's been consistent about that. Yes, I
Speaker 1: wonder what he was saying leading up to the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: game two years ago, the season finale two, the same thing.
Speaker 1: No he was, he was, Yeah, he was, play the
Speaker 1: same thing Cats. And then all of a sudden, Mark
Speaker 1: Sanchez made an appearance, you know, And I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the snap coups from that game, and of course Zeke
Speaker 1: didn't play. Yeah. Out in twenty fourteen, Mick, correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, guys, because I wasn't here that season.
Speaker 1: Did they have were they locked in in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: late in the season, and Romo played pretty much the
Speaker 1: whole game. There was there was a chance that they
Speaker 1: could get the second seed against Washington, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: because they still had something to play. They had something
Speaker 1: to play for, because, yeah, they had a chance to
Speaker 1: get the second seed if they and Romo and Dez
Speaker 1: Bryan and those guys. Murray, they went into the third quarter. Okay,
Speaker 1: they went into the third quarter and then the game
Speaker 1: became a thirty eight to something game. Maybe I'm sorry again,
Speaker 1: I know I'm going back a few No. No, think
Speaker 1: of Garrett's history doing this. Oh No, He's been consistent.
Speaker 1: He's been consistent when he tells us the guys that
Speaker 1: are healthy enough to play are gonna play. He I
Speaker 1: think that's the old school guy in him. I think
Speaker 1: that's the that all these games do mean something to him,
Speaker 1: and he's trying to find a way to win the game.
Speaker 1: And I do I believe that. And I don't think
Speaker 1: even if he pulls these guys that he's gonna sit
Speaker 1: there and go, Okay, I understand we're playing with backups. Now,
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. It's gonna matter. Yeah, No, he's gonna
Speaker 1: try and win this thumb, He's gonna try and win
Speaker 1: this almost right. Well, it's just like, okay, what if
Speaker 1: you lost Zeke in the first quarter of a game.
Speaker 1: I mean you you got to have Rod Smith ready,
Speaker 1: you gotta have Darres Jackson read if he's gonna be
Speaker 1: on the game day roster or whatever, you know, and
Speaker 1: so you still have that mindset, Yeah, we're winning this game,
Speaker 1: We're working to win this game or whatever. In that
Speaker 1: game two years ago, Tyran Smith did not play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee, Yeah, remember Shaun Lee had his helmet buckled
Speaker 1: the whole game. Zeke dress but didn't play right, right, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at starters. Witten played like twenty two snaps
Speaker 1: in that game. Em mt Clary was the left tackle.
Speaker 1: Joe Looney was the left guard, played the whole game
Speaker 1: at left guard. Yeah, and that playing the left guard
Speaker 1: for would that at time been Ron Leary two years ago?
Speaker 1: Larry was nursing an injury then, I don't remember growing injury.
Speaker 1: Didn't Ron Leary was always a rod injury. But Travis
Speaker 1: Frederick played the whole game, Zach Martin played the whole game.
Speaker 1: Doug Free played the whole game. And this gets back too, well,
Speaker 1: if you if you're sitting Tyrn Smith, then you're sitting
Speaker 1: Ronald Learry. Then you just don't have enough offensive lineman
Speaker 1: for those other guys to take any snaps. They actually
Speaker 1: have enough to Okay, they could go Flaming at left tackle.
Speaker 1: They could go Suefilo at left guard. They could go
Speaker 1: Looney at the center, Connor Williams, or they Connor Williams
Speaker 1: it right, and then they could go Collins. They don't
Speaker 1: have enough tackles for Collins to sit, but they could
Speaker 1: go it could go Redman at center. See this is
Speaker 1: the difference, And Jason pointed this out in his press conference.
Speaker 1: Is that but he could rotate Redman in with the
Speaker 1: other guards. Well, I think it depends on how long
Speaker 1: you're playing. Dak Prescott. Yeah, I mean you can do this,
Speaker 1: but it's not the same as like a dress rehearsal
Speaker 1: where you've got ninety guys you just put in a
Speaker 1: whole new offensive line. I mean, certain guys are gonna
Speaker 1: have to play most of this game, if not all
Speaker 1: of it. And you've played a couple of games this
Speaker 1: season with Cam Fleming playing left tackle and Dak Prescott playing.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with Connor Williams playing a whole game if
Speaker 1: he has to, and you don't think about it, didn't
Speaker 1: it done? And what if one of those one of
Speaker 1: those guys get hurt. Somebody's got to go in and play.
Speaker 1: You don't just play with a four man line and
Speaker 1: say this game's meaningless. Yeah, there's another side to this
Speaker 1: that I hadn't really thought about until now. Well, last night,
Speaker 1: just what you finally got to breathe after the Christmas
Speaker 1: Nabs MAVs didn't have your interests last night? I did
Speaker 1: after that and after Luke TC you got it done? Really?
Speaker 1: How about kick? Did he really did? Okay? Who did Patterson? No?
Speaker 1: He changed? I know he iced the kid. He missed it.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, he missed it? He bill? Yeah, well I
Speaker 1: was saw No, I thought they they sent the kicker out.
Speaker 1: I was reading they called time out, called time and
Speaker 1: pulled him out and it was the other guys. No, No,
Speaker 1: he switched back, switch back to the original guy. Oh,
Speaker 1: I thought he switched back now and then the time
Speaker 1: for the game winner that he switched back to song okay,
Speaker 1: the one that he did not use earlier. And then
Speaker 1: sh right, Yeah, got trucked the sideline interference. Oh you
Speaker 1: don't needn't watch the game second and just very briefly,
Speaker 1: and Mark Cohen is great, it's information director at TCU.
Speaker 1: All right. In overtime, uh kyl through the thirteenth pick
Speaker 1: of the game. Literally there were nine the game, the
Speaker 1: five by the cow quarterback right, maybe plural. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they used more than one. But anyway, so
Speaker 1: the guy runs it back for TCU, runs it back
Speaker 1: eighty yards, got caught by alignment at the ten yard line.
Speaker 1: But there was a sideline interference penalty against TCU, and
Speaker 1: they showed the replay of it. A guy in a
Speaker 1: suit sideline who got out on the field and a
Speaker 1: referee or an official ran over. It turns out it
Speaker 1: was Mark Cohen, the sports information director, the sid who
Speaker 1: I am now calling the sideline interference director, not the
Speaker 1: sports director. So did did did the over officious official
Speaker 1: have to throw the flag? It was? It was it
Speaker 1: was a big situation over time. Well but and so
Speaker 1: then what happened, Uh TCU was penalized fifteen yards. I
Speaker 1: had to start their possession at the forty yard line.
Speaker 1: And if you saw the TCU offense. You wonder how
Speaker 1: in the world they're going to get him field goal,
Speaker 1: but they were able to ye in the game. Yea,
Speaker 1: what a jerk that it all goes back to the
Speaker 1: red and it was way back black and white stripes.
Speaker 1: It was way behind. No, it was like seventy yards
Speaker 1: behind them, and he wasn't going to make a call
Speaker 1: down to your point, All right, Rob, what were you
Speaker 1: talking about? I have no idea. That's what the beauty
Speaker 1: of the show, uh gart Yeah? Yeah? Could he be
Speaker 1: thinking a couple of different things here. One, this is
Speaker 1: a young team, a young football team. I want them
Speaker 1: keep the pedal down right now, and not even the
Speaker 1: fact that they lost got shut out two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: but maybe that's in the back of their mind too.
Speaker 1: That Look, we've got to be continue to be focused,
Speaker 1: continue to keep the pedal down with this young group,
Speaker 1: keep giving some a lot of guys experience. And Two,
Speaker 1: we had a mail back question about the defense. Yeah
Speaker 1: to me, that spoke talking about the defense being on
Speaker 1: the field too much. Offense has not been able to
Speaker 1: the same drives last couple of weeks. We know that
Speaker 1: they had six of nine true drives last week of
Speaker 1: five or fewer plays. Could he be looking at this
Speaker 1: and saying, I need my offense to get some momentum
Speaker 1: before the playoffs. I need to get him out there
Speaker 1: for a few series and try to get something back,
Speaker 1: get some juice flowing again. Because they clinch the division,
Speaker 1: show a lot of guts that what they've done the
Speaker 1: last down the stretch has been great, But offensively there's
Speaker 1: things they can improve on, and maybe he's looking at
Speaker 1: that way. Now you have to balance that with a
Speaker 1: couple things, because I think Zeke needs rest. I think
Speaker 1: a week so a little time off or a fewer
Speaker 1: carries would help him a lot. I think Zach Martin
Speaker 1: probably needs to rest, Tyron Smith probably needs to rest.
Speaker 1: So then how do you do that? If you are
Speaker 1: trying to be mindful of your star players? Are they
Speaker 1: are what they are? Offensively? Well? I hope not. I
Speaker 1: hope it's I know. I'm just say this. I'm asking
Speaker 1: the question, though, Are you Are you gonna you think
Speaker 1: they can magically waive the play a couple of extra
Speaker 1: series and everything is gonna be hunky dory. Maybe not.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not busting on you, maybe saying I'm
Speaker 1: saying that that Yeah, they got to turnover two in
Speaker 1: the game the other day. That means if you did
Speaker 1: the sixty nine yard touchdown return and then then they
Speaker 1: had to go right back out on the field. But
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's more of the first thing I said.
Speaker 1: It's a young team, and it's Zeke said something yesterday
Speaker 1: that make I don't know if you heard it. He said,
Speaker 1: compared to the twenty sixteen team, He's like, this group
Speaker 1: relies more on intensity and just and and being, uh,
Speaker 1: just that intense mindset and put like I said, putting
Speaker 1: the pedal down. Maybe he's he's trying to keep them
Speaker 1: in that mode because it is a young team, and
Speaker 1: not that they're gonna lose focus, but just keep them. Look,
Speaker 1: you can't relax just because you cleanse the division. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe that's part of it too. Do you worry about
Speaker 1: a young team in the playoffs? I would I would
Speaker 1: be if they hadn't been grinding since week game five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it kind of goes back to that. And look
Speaker 1: at and and there. I pointed this out just a
Speaker 1: minute ago. They won games by seven, three, eight, three,
Speaker 1: six and over time and then seven. So it's not
Speaker 1: like they own p Bull away. They have not posted.
Speaker 1: They've had to grind, and I think that was one
Speaker 1: of the things that Garrett continues to reference that in
Speaker 1: that first half of the season maybe they didn't grind
Speaker 1: so well. When things went bad, it's like, oh, here
Speaker 1: we go. And I think they finally learned how to
Speaker 1: win some games. And by the way, in winning those games,
Speaker 1: they scored twenty seven, twenty two, thirty one, okay, thirteen
Speaker 1: against the Saints, twenty nine in overtime, twenty seven against
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Now that's that offense we're worried about, yea.
Speaker 1: And what's sticking out is twenty three to nothing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in the last game, last game two, they had
Speaker 1: a lot of stall drives and I get it, but
Speaker 1: they but they also had a couple of short drives
Speaker 1: for scores that they couldn't have a long drive, right,
Speaker 1: the one after the Gregory recovery, Yes right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: adown too, Yeah, And they had a defensive touchdown and
Speaker 1: then the problem was defensively they couldn't get off the field.
Speaker 1: They let Tampa Bay have the ball for nearly thirteen
Speaker 1: minutes in consecutive drives. Yea. So some weird that was
Speaker 1: the male bad question today. Right, Yeah, but it's also
Speaker 1: a product of the offense. I mean, you get a
Speaker 1: defensive touchdown and the ball goes right back to Tampa Bay, right,
Speaker 1: and then they have a long drive. But also three
Speaker 1: start a lot of short drives. What was that Indianapolis
Speaker 1: was not a product of the offense, because it's they
Speaker 1: scored on five out of six possessions. Yeah, right. They
Speaker 1: didn't get into the end zone every time, but they
Speaker 1: didn't have to get into the end zone. Yea. They
Speaker 1: were in control of the game. They didn't have to
Speaker 1: press the issue. I don't know, Garrett, in a way,
Speaker 1: it's I think Todd Archer said this in his ESPN column.
Speaker 1: It's like he's damned if you do. Damned if you
Speaker 1: do dam if you don't, you know, I mean, you
Speaker 1: rest them and then you risk rust, and if you
Speaker 1: if you play them, then you risk injury. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know how he wins in this situation. Really,
Speaker 1: yesterday morning, at this time, while you were conducting this
Speaker 1: fine show which I listened to later in the day,
Speaker 1: good thoroughly enjoyed. I was interviewing Darryl Johnston Cowboys Insider,
Speaker 1: which airs on Fox Sports Southwest, and he was adamant
Speaker 1: that they need to play to win this game, and
Speaker 1: he's concerned about the offense and the red zone issues,
Speaker 1: especially in UM Anyway, that's that's his two sents worth
Speaker 1: on it is that they need to have a mindset
Speaker 1: of we're planning to win this game and they and
Speaker 1: the thought of resting people shouldn't even be enter in
Speaker 1: their mind, even like a Zach Martin though I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't plan. I didn't press him on injured players,
Speaker 1: you know, Zekes And that's the issue is Zeke. And
Speaker 1: we kind of dovetailed that into a conversation on carries
Speaker 1: and getting into the end zone. And Todd Gurley's got
Speaker 1: seventeen rushing touchdowns this year, Zeke's got six, what's Barclay's
Speaker 1: got ten? I think? And the concern that with Zeke
Speaker 1: is or with this offense is when once you get
Speaker 1: down in the red zone and not been able to
Speaker 1: just hand the ball to Zeke and or have the
Speaker 1: confidence even too from the offensive coordinator's perspective, apparently to
Speaker 1: just hand the ball to Zeke and get him in
Speaker 1: the end zone. I usually agree with Moose on a
Speaker 1: lot of things, not on this one though. Yeah, not
Speaker 1: on this one though. I you know, Mickey's right, this
Speaker 1: team has been playing meaningful football games since week eight.
Speaker 1: I mean they he read all the scores to you.
Speaker 1: They've been in some tough, tight football games and some
Speaker 1: games that in a short period of time plump together. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you put yourself in this at least now you've
Speaker 1: by the way you've played, you've given yourself an opportunity
Speaker 1: to have some options. So, you know, I think the
Speaker 1: biggest difference between now and two years ago is because
Speaker 1: you had the bye week. Sure, I mean you had
Speaker 1: so much time off between where you had to play
Speaker 1: to win games. You know, right, you can treat this
Speaker 1: one more like I lean to where you're talking here,
Speaker 1: where you find a happy medium where you're able to
Speaker 1: keep them sharp and at the same time rest them.
Speaker 1: You know. You know the funny thing about this red
Speaker 1: zone stuff and goal to go situations is no one
Speaker 1: thought it was a problem while they were winning, and
Speaker 1: then when they lost one, it was like, oh, look
Speaker 1: at this, Well guess what you were late to the party,
Speaker 1: I wrote, because this has been going on time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't get three weeks ago before it became a
Speaker 1: problem for everybody, and this has been bugging them the
Speaker 1: entire season. Yeah, but you lose one and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they can't get in the end zone. Well, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been going on. They've been able to overcome it. In
Speaker 1: that game, they couldn't overcome it because they ran into
Speaker 1: a very good team and they dropped the ball and
Speaker 1: goal on Yeah. Ye, well they missed a block too
Speaker 1: well the other one that that play that was over with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I and I'm just thinking about what who's the
Speaker 1: saying you want to win? You want to win what expense? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: You've You've fought eight weeks to get it to this point.
Speaker 1: You know, I think is? I think is. And Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett's not a dumb guy, he's you know, and I understand,
Speaker 1: you know, you want to go and win these games.
Speaker 1: But I also understand though that that playoffs is that's
Speaker 1: what you're trying to You're there, You're you have an
Speaker 1: opportunity put your put your unit in the best condition
Speaker 1: it can be to go win. You watch, and we've
Speaker 1: talked about this, the two healthiest teams will be in
Speaker 1: the super Bowl when it comes down to it. The
Speaker 1: two the two teams that have withstood all the months
Speaker 1: of football, all the games, and they get to the
Speaker 1: point of the end, and it'll be the two healthiest teams.
Speaker 1: You know, It'll be the you know, and these playoff
Speaker 1: games will get affected by somebody not playing. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's playoff chances could be affected by James Connor lining
Speaker 1: up and playing. And that's gonna happen in a playoff game. Hey, look,
Speaker 1: something's gonna happen where a big time player is not
Speaker 1: going to be able to suit up and his and
Speaker 1: his team is going to be handicapped. Well when playing
Speaker 1: game this Sunday, and Mariota's I assume very questionable to play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you what do you think the Rams are
Speaker 1: thinking right now? Gurley? Yeah? Is it worth playing him
Speaker 1: to get the second seed? He hasn't played in what
Speaker 1: two weeks, and and he's he's questionable at this point.
Speaker 1: You're gonna stick him out there with a sprain knee. Now,
Speaker 1: They've got to keep winning to get the second But
Speaker 1: that's what I'm asking, Is it worth it, man? Because
Speaker 1: what if you get it and then you don't have
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley? Well, yeah, Minnesota, look at the mean the Bears.
Speaker 1: Think about I mean the Bears. Their quarterback has had
Speaker 1: a bad shoulder for like I mean, and they've got
Speaker 1: they've got a decision they gotta make. Do you play
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Speaker 1: sit back? And you would say, okay, wait a minute, now,
Speaker 1: we would rather face Minnesota again than we would face Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: And I know this is against every probably TV the philosophy,
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Speaker 1: look what happened early. Now I gotta do this. We're
Speaker 1: just all play at the same time. So you're saying, everybody,
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Speaker 1: three and in the in that way, you give the
Speaker 1: West Coast teams at least a shot. That was the
Speaker 1: other thing I brought up. Not at ten am Monday
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Speaker 1: that right. Nobody knows, at least we don't know, didn't
Speaker 1: I Yeah, yeah, you know, thanks win the Cowboys play
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Speaker 1: next up here on talking Cowboys. Hello, Ray, Hey, how
Speaker 1: you doing? Hey? Bill? I don't I don't know where
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Speaker 1: risk I'm about to take it to the talking cow. Okay,
Speaker 1: A couple of questions. I just it's a delicate situation.
Speaker 1: I think when I just looked at the playoff picture,
Speaker 1: it looks like we're going to play Seattle. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's an outside chance you had to pay Minnesota and
Speaker 1: we were about to play a physical football team here.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't play Zeke at all. I know you a.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. That poor guy has been taken
Speaker 1: a beating problems in the red zone? Is it teams?
Speaker 1: No ninety there? Our tendencies are we're just gonna turn
Speaker 1: it around the Zeke. They just loaded up on the run.
Speaker 1: That I think that's part of it. I think that
Speaker 1: that's that's that's offensive coordinator situation. Yeah, teams know you're
Speaker 1: just gonna turn around a hand Zeke, but you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta give them something else to worry about. We
Speaker 1: haven't done that enough in the red zone, especially in
Speaker 1: gold to gold situations. I wouldn't play Zeke at all.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't play nobody. This hurt um. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You got enough offensive linement and to play this game
Speaker 1: to get through the game. Maybe you treat it if
Speaker 1: if you got enough bodies, maybe you treat it like
Speaker 1: a a preseason game, a quarter and a half. But
Speaker 1: Zeke wouldn't touch the ball at all. I mean, and
Speaker 1: that brings up entries in point that Sean Payton made
Speaker 1: about a last week about expanding the rosters if you
Speaker 1: had if we had that situation, well, okay, you could
Speaker 1: get away with that. But I would try to treat
Speaker 1: this as a as a I know, I know Mickey
Speaker 1: said the last show ten and six sounds a lot better.
Speaker 1: I don't give a crap about that. The real season
Speaker 1: starts next week. I worry about that game, not no
Speaker 1: winning ten and six. I try to get through this
Speaker 1: game with a little injuries as possible. I wouldn't play
Speaker 1: nobody maybe a quarter and a half if you got
Speaker 1: enough bodies to do that. But Zeke doesn't touch the
Speaker 1: ball at all. Thanks guys, I'm with them on the
Speaker 1: ten and six. I mean, three years. Only people I
Speaker 1: think people are gonna remember is that they won the division.
Speaker 1: And I didn't care about the record. It's horowably doing
Speaker 1: the postseason that too. Mostly that, but so going into
Speaker 1: this last game. Before the last game, so the previous
Speaker 1: six games I figured out in Gold the ghost situations.
Speaker 1: They gave Zeke the ball seven times this isn't gonna
Speaker 1: be pretty and he got seventeen yards. Yeah, and there
Speaker 1: was a bunch for negative. Yeah. So it's that's not
Speaker 1: the panacea because everybody else knows that's the panacea, and
Speaker 1: it's not working. And what what he just said is
Speaker 1: they have tried other things. Sure, unfortunately the execution hasn't
Speaker 1: been perfect, but they have given people something else to
Speaker 1: think about. The end around to Marie Cooper, right, you
Speaker 1: don't block the defensive end and he makes the tackle
Speaker 1: for a loss. You tried running Dac one time and
Speaker 1: he gets dumped for a five yard loss. So they
Speaker 1: have done different things. They just haven't executed well. Because
Speaker 1: the bread and butter, they're taking it away from you.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, no, Zeke, you won't Yeah, And they
Speaker 1: tried to take it away two years ago. But the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had an offensive line Zach was superior, a center
Speaker 1: that con get to the second level, get blocks along
Speaker 1: the lines of Zeke and running backs in general. Your
Speaker 1: favorite website pro foot Well, this is Pro Football Focus. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's his favorite website. Yes, mine too, all right. They
Speaker 1: put a tweet out yesterday, often a good indicator of performance.
Speaker 1: Here are the top thirty halfbacks ranked by tackles avoided
Speaker 1: per rushing attempt with a minimum one hundred attempts. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of words, tackles, tackles avoided. Yeah, okay, not
Speaker 1: running through tackles, but it's you make the first tackles avoided?
Speaker 1: Where do you think Zeke ranks among the top thirty
Speaker 1: on their list? And eighteen again? This is again, this
Speaker 1: is them looking at coaches film and deciding that they
Speaker 1: avoided that tackle or did not over if they did. Yeah, eighteenth,
Speaker 1: you got Zeke at number eighteen. Again, this is often
Speaker 1: a good indicator of how good a running back or
Speaker 1: the performance of a running back. Okay, he gets hit
Speaker 1: a lot, eighteen, eighteen. I'll take fifteen, Robin go ten, Yeah, twelve,
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, Yeah, twenty ninth out of thirty. I guess
Speaker 1: who number thirty is, uh, Todd Gurley. Todd Gurley. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's right. So now this means we should not pay
Speaker 1: any attention to pro football, I said, I said so,
Speaker 1: he said, often a good indicator performance the top thirty
Speaker 1: half number one ranked by tackles avoided per rushing attempt. Okay,
Speaker 1: I said, an even better indicator or performance is yards gained. Yes,
Speaker 1: and of course the first who first, Who's first, number
Speaker 1: one on the list is Melvin Gordon. Okay, okay, no
Speaker 1: quarrel two hundred one rushing attempts, tackles avoided forty one.
Speaker 1: That means tackles avoided per attempt zero point two four.
Speaker 1: But but if he's avoided forty one tackles forty one
Speaker 1: touchdowns because at some point he got tackles at some point,
Speaker 1: you have to go down right an Zeke has thirty
Speaker 1: ze Mickey to just kick. Zeke has thirty seven tackles
Speaker 1: avoided in three hundred and fifty two attempts. Okay, Gordon
Speaker 1: has forty one and two hundred one attempts. I'm saying, though,
Speaker 1: the number on the list is Kareem Hunt, three, Kenyon Drake,
Speaker 1: then Nick Chubb and Dalvin Cook. There's your top five,
Speaker 1: and the number of carries for each or two O one,
Speaker 1: two twelve, eighty eight and one thirty seven. Collins is
Speaker 1: number six at one forty four carries. Unfortunately, Kareem Hunt
Speaker 1: made one too many tackles. But this also doesn't take
Speaker 1: into not wrong. This also does he should have avoided
Speaker 1: tackles avoided also does not take into account a running
Speaker 1: back who gets hit and maybe that tackler gets credited
Speaker 1: with the tackle. Yeah, and yet that running back is
Speaker 1: able to get an extra one, two or even three
Speaker 1: yards on that particular Kerry, are we talking alike at
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage anywhere on the are just anywhere
Speaker 1: tackles avoided? I am insane. No, my head is spinning.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Hey, PFF did get Byron Jones in
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Partly give him credit for that, you
Speaker 1: think because on being on the those primetime games and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, they were touting him all season that
Speaker 1: he was graded maybe number one, number two all season.
Speaker 1: My point is, any list and I don't take an accounting. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a great list for the Melvin Gordon type back
Speaker 1: or whatever you know. Okay, that's fine, okay, But any
Speaker 1: any list that has Zeke Elliott twenty ninth, Todd Gurley thirtieth, yeah,
Speaker 1: and se Quon Barkley twenty third is not a good
Speaker 1: indicator of performance of half back. Barkley's analytics. Yeah, sa
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley is the closest thing I've seen to Barry
Speaker 1: Sanders in my career. So what happens, avoiding it might
Speaker 1: be a good indicator of a yes. By the way, yeah,
Speaker 1: say one more time. Sa Quon Barkley is the closest
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen to Barry Sanders when it comes
Speaker 1: to avoiding tacklers. And he's Yeah. The best indicator for
Speaker 1: me performance besides his yardage is yards after contact. The
Speaker 1: guy finds a way of getting an extra two or
Speaker 1: three yards and squirming through, and that guy three different
Speaker 1: contact might get credited with the tackle. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: not a tackle avoided. And yet he just dragged that
Speaker 1: guy for an extra four yards, right, He does that
Speaker 1: maybe better than anybody in the right film. So if
Speaker 1: you jump over a guy and then lose your balance
Speaker 1: after you clear him, is that a tackle for that guy? Might?
Speaker 1: You avoided it and last person to touch him? So
Speaker 1: it was not a tackle avoided. But somebody though he
Speaker 1: got an extra ten yards jumping over the guy. So anyway,
Speaker 1: M glad you brought it up. Yeah, all right, and
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Speaker 1: game official. I would. We didn't determine what a fish
Speaker 1: the sport he would do though, right, We weren't sure.
Speaker 1: We thought maybe he would be a baseball umpire. I
Speaker 1: would be very good at baseball, And I said, because
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Speaker 1: intramural department putting myself in my roommate on the best
Speaker 1: games when we got to the playoffs. Oh wow, Dean Blandino.
Speaker 1: But you on, that's right. There's nothing worse than a
Speaker 1: bad official in the in those wreck games. If you
Speaker 1: get a bad official that that that just ruins your
Speaker 1: opportunity to get the T shirt. You know, remember when
Speaker 1: I was coaching eight and undergirls basketball. There were more
Speaker 1: of it, more officials that hated my guts. Bill. Were
Speaker 1: you like a subtle did you like subtle like you
Speaker 1: were sub guys? Or did you? Are you a screamer? No?
Speaker 1: I want not a screamer, you know, but I would.
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Speaker 1: the other side side of the field, I don't have
Speaker 1: my glasses on, so I can't see who's yelling at
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Speaker 1: the next thing I know, my son's getting his picture
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Speaker 1: I'm like piped down over there. Roger Roger, and Roger
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Speaker 1: I'm like and I'm and I'm like the dad that
Speaker 1: never But he was driving me nuts, you know, yelling
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Speaker 1: my guys that the one of the players dove and
Speaker 1: one of my guys blows his whistle right, and a
Speaker 1: guy runs for a touchdown, and it's like, no one stopped. Right.
Speaker 1: So it's like I called the touchdown. He blew the whistle.
Speaker 1: I said, no, he didn't. He goes, yeah, I heard it.
Speaker 1: He blew the whistle. I go, no, it was on
Speaker 1: the other field. But thinking nicky avoiding the introverted whistle.
Speaker 1: You know one thing about Mickey and this is the
Speaker 1: last on the official talk with Mickey, Okay, one thing
Speaker 1: I would love to hear. I would love to hear
Speaker 1: Mickey as a referee at an NFL game where he
Speaker 1: makes the announcement of what the call is. Yeah, can't
Speaker 1: you make that announcement for us? That should be a
Speaker 1: bucket Listen, I just ance one the hat. Can't to
Speaker 1: do this? Maybe like Hall of Fame game or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great exhibition. Call a false start, Mickey, just right now,
Speaker 1: you can just call a false star fall start. Little
Speaker 1: thing number seventy five offense. Can you do it right?
Speaker 1: To do it animated too? No, I can't do the animation.
Speaker 1: You can do it right now. No, I just did it. No.
Speaker 1: I want you to know you have you have the
Speaker 1: microphone on. You're telling the world. What do you come on?
Speaker 1: We'll all start number seventy six offense, five yards, five yard.
Speaker 1: Pilly still remains first down there. Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Albert in Philadelphia. Hello, Albert, Hey, Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: hey Bill, did you say seventy five in honor of
Speaker 1: Phil Pozz Derek. Yeah, exactly, That's exactly what I had
Speaker 1: on my mind. Yep, Phil Pazz Derek. Okay, the last
Speaker 1: time I called was last day in ox Start. I
Speaker 1: said that late in Vandergh. After all said and done,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of the best linebackers in Cowboy history.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's starting to go. I hope you got
Speaker 1: start information I sent chill. Oh yeah, I do. Hey,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for doing that. That's very nice
Speaker 1: for you to do that. I appreciate you. What did
Speaker 1: you get? I asked one time on the on the
Speaker 1: on our show on the uh the Happy Hour, I
Speaker 1: asked about the one gift I'd like to get and
Speaker 1: Electric Football because I wanted to pass it down to Bennett.
Speaker 1: Do you electric remember the game Vibrating Field? I was,
Speaker 1: and yes in the gentleman right here semi information. I
Speaker 1: do appreciate it. Very kind of you to do that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, No problem, the problem, Rob. I care about
Speaker 1: our history. I care about seeing ten to six and
Speaker 1: the media guide five years from now. As from a
Speaker 1: fan like me who pays to go these games, I'm like, right,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, see us are some of our starters play.
Speaker 1: I remember twenty fourteen that you know, we rolled through
Speaker 1: the Redskins the week after we won the division, and
Speaker 1: we won the next week in the division game, I
Speaker 1: mean in the wild card game. Uh two years ago
Speaker 1: we sat people in Philly. I was at that game too,
Speaker 1: and you know we came out real slow. Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: Clinton had a post power to save his life and
Speaker 1: we lost. Yeah. Yeah, but they scored thirty one points. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought he dueled him pretty well though. That Rogers
Speaker 1: Rogers beat you on an incredible Oh. I know, I
Speaker 1: understand that. I understand that that's a mad example. You
Speaker 1: were rolling really well there by the way, though, you
Speaker 1: were going well, thank you. Well, I still think I'm
Speaker 1: going well, I think, um, somebody gets hurt in this game. Pathetically.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be Garrett. Oh no, no, no, you don't. Don't.
Speaker 1: Don't go there. You're not gonna say you're gonna call
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call him Monday, Martin. I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about a guy like that. I mean, of course, sit
Speaker 1: him down. Sure, But whoever is really hurt doesn't need
Speaker 1: to play. But and I'm not saying play the entire game,
Speaker 1: but I mean at least put a good effort out
Speaker 1: there for the fans who pay for it to go
Speaker 1: see these games. I've been to the last three games
Speaker 1: of the season, and I'm sick and tired of being shafted. Okay,
Speaker 1: well if that's one, if that's your argument, then go
Speaker 1: with that. I mean, you kind of set everything up
Speaker 1: like you're I had tons of things to say, no,
Speaker 1: but but no, But seriously, you you know, the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is if you were working in this organization,
Speaker 1: you would you would not take this attitude. Did you
Speaker 1: have now? You wouldn't. There's no way you would take
Speaker 1: this attitude. Well, Brian, I agree with most of time,
Speaker 1: with most of the things you say. Right, No, I'm
Speaker 1: not asking you to agree with me. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: is a let's take the last year we had nothing
Speaker 1: to play for it, right Hey, we're saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: we can't get abody for the next season. I mean,
Speaker 1: come one, who said that? Yeah? Well who said? What?
Speaker 1: I know? I didn't like they weren't. Seriously, No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. You should hurt next year? You should? I mean, no,
Speaker 1: you don't. I would like to see some of our
Speaker 1: guys play, and all right, I just seriously, if you weren't,
Speaker 1: if you you know, I understand the fans and the money.
Speaker 1: I get that, trust me, Okay, my family is a
Speaker 1: season ticket holders for twenty years. I get it. Okay,
Speaker 1: but if you sat down right now and you lost
Speaker 1: the guy that could help you get into to win
Speaker 1: a playoff game, you would be losing your absolute mind
Speaker 1: right now. I respect for your coming from, especially from
Speaker 1: since you were a Scout. I truly do respect that.
Speaker 1: But as and as a fan, I kind of get that.
Speaker 1: But I but I want to see I want to
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm a history buffs. I want to see ys.
Speaker 1: Get that time wink. All right, fair enough? Good. You
Speaker 1: know what, I think the Giants care that they went
Speaker 1: nine and seven and oh seven, I think they care.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I love our cars, I really do.
Speaker 1: But man, that that one kind of and I appreciate him.
Speaker 1: Give me the electric football thing. That was very kind of.
Speaker 1: You know. It was better than that though. It was
Speaker 1: the hockey. Hockey was awesome, like hockey. You know. Also,
Speaker 1: when I was in college, it wasn't the electric football,
Speaker 1: the vibrating game. It was the electronic football. I just discovered.
Speaker 1: I just discovered the discs you put him in the
Speaker 1: I just discovered football. The handheld game was back. Yeah
Speaker 1: this Christmas, and I didn't get it for Christmas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love the electronic football. Maybe I was such a
Speaker 1: great electronic football players just go up and down, up
Speaker 1: and down, up and down, and then break for the break. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you familiar with this game? Never played? That? Make
Speaker 1: you love? It? Makes great sounds too, oh right, the
Speaker 1: joys of being younger than you get this is a
Speaker 1: video game. What do you mean There's no way, there's
Speaker 1: there's no way. I'm just sitting here thinking there's no
Speaker 1: way that the fans would forgive anybody here if they
Speaker 1: get if they got somebody hurt. Trust me, we all
Speaker 1: have Twitter. Everybody is an expert here. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so if you tell me that you
Speaker 1: go out there place somebody just to get a tenth win,
Speaker 1: you've played your ass off to get it to this
Speaker 1: point to where you can have an option. This isn't Minnesota,
Speaker 1: this isn't Indianapolis, this isn't Tennessee. You know, this is
Speaker 1: not Philadelphia. You know you now if you have a
Speaker 1: chance to play, this a way to give your team
Speaker 1: the best chance to win a more important game than
Speaker 1: the tenth game. What was the caller's name, Albert? Albert.
Speaker 1: I mean, I respect his point. He talked about like
Speaker 1: trying to put a good product out there. They're practicing
Speaker 1: to go play well and put a good product on
Speaker 1: the field this Sunday. Now, how often how much some
Speaker 1: of these guys are playing, that remains to be seen.
Speaker 1: But they're not sitting around this week drinking gatorade. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're trying to get ready to play this game and
Speaker 1: next day sharp. And we're not talking about a fourth
Speaker 1: preseason game where you're sitting thirty guys. You have to play,
Speaker 1: you can't physically do it. Yes, you've played your ass
Speaker 1: off to get to this point. That that in itself,
Speaker 1: you should be happy about it, and I'm sure Albert
Speaker 1: is happy about that, But to win ten game, No,
Speaker 1: they won thirteen games and didn't need you know, at
Speaker 1: home field and didn't get to where they needed to be,
Speaker 1: the first team in like NFL history to have the
Speaker 1: number one seed and not get to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Whatever works was right. That's what I said the first segment.
Speaker 1: If Garrett is damned if you do, damn if you don't.
Speaker 1: But what gives you the best chance out there trying
Speaker 1: to win this game or to get the playoffs success
Speaker 1: long term? It's making sure you got all your guys healthy.
Speaker 1: Now you got a factor in RUSS. But it's different
Speaker 1: than two years ago because there's not a full week
Speaker 1: off in between what's RUSS. They've been they've been, I
Speaker 1: mean it's been it's been playoff atmosphere for eight weeks.
Speaker 1: Now we worry about they are what they are, they
Speaker 1: really are, that this team is what what it is.
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells told us after Thanksgiving, you are what you are.
Speaker 1: This team won enough games to win the division and
Speaker 1: get into playoffs. This is what they're going to go
Speaker 1: to battle with. Give me the best opportunity to go
Speaker 1: to battle with what I have to go win one
Speaker 1: of these games there. And I love you, I really do.
Speaker 1: About fans being short change, not being able to pay
Speaker 1: good money to watch the team play, Nobody respects that
Speaker 1: more to trust me, it's hard to go to a
Speaker 1: game nowadays. It's hard meal for the Boston College in
Speaker 1: Boise State fans who came down here. The whole point
Speaker 1: we were, Mickey, you could get a ticket for next
Speaker 1: year's game. Mickey and I and I did Star Sports tour.
Speaker 1: There's all these people from Boise here. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: they came your Christmas playing. They went to see the Cowboy.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they got to see the Cowboys play Tampa and
Speaker 1: then get to go to the game hopefully. Stuff. That
Speaker 1: was rough weather here yesterday. But that's tough, that's really tough.
Speaker 1: And well the other part of that is I saw
Speaker 1: that where the teams were saying that they were were
Speaker 1: staying that night too. They weren't leaving right after the game. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so they're staying in the hotel one more night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they could have played this morning. Leven am. How about
Speaker 1: how about playing this morning? It's a beautiful day for football.
Speaker 1: But you said it just stakes when I crossed you
Speaker 1: yesterday TV TV, But ESPN doesn't have games and starting
Speaker 1: to do. They have gas going on all day play
Speaker 1: at nine am the next morning. But we got the reason.
Speaker 1: Oh we've got Steven A. Smith screaming out us. The
Speaker 1: only reason they have those games is for ESPN, exactly
Speaker 1: the ones. And once that lightning delay got past one
Speaker 1: hour and they could not fit that game into a
Speaker 1: four hour window before the next Bowl game started, then
Speaker 1: ESPN pull the plug on it. Yep. That's what all
Speaker 1: these Bowl games are. And that's why I say they
Speaker 1: couldn't play content, Go ahead and play. They don't have
Speaker 1: Bowl games today until at least eleven, yeah, twelve. And
Speaker 1: how many channels does ESPN have? I put it on.
Speaker 1: She played some bad games on some of those. I
Speaker 1: couldn't even find it. It was like on the Classic.
Speaker 1: It was like way when the Cheese It Bowl? Yeah,
Speaker 1: where did that used to be? That's probably the Cactus
Speaker 1: Bowl before that. It's a phoenix Phoenix at the but
Speaker 1: it's at Chase Field, at the home of the Diamondback.
Speaker 1: Cactus Bowl. The Cactus play that they were talking about
Speaker 1: a record, and I'm going that the cheese It bowls
Speaker 1: got like history. By the way, the First Responders Bowl
Speaker 1: put out a tweet that said the game has been
Speaker 1: ruled a no contest. Yeah, and that's her motto, right,
Speaker 1: I said, I said, God, I hope the Orange Bowl
Speaker 1: doesn't tweet that on Saturday night. Now the game has
Speaker 1: been ruled a no contest. Oh boy, I'm afraid it
Speaker 1: would be. That's a really quick question for you. What
Speaker 1: do you get it? I got it. What's the deal
Speaker 1: with snack food in Arizona to tostidos cheese? It's do
Speaker 1: we have all snack foods have to go to Arizona.
Speaker 1: I want to want a gold bowler. Give me a
Speaker 1: goldfish bowl. That's my favorite snack. Stink goldfish bowl, stink
Speaker 1: rural goldfish. That was the bold I used to have
Speaker 1: in Tucson. There was a wasn't the cat I thought
Speaker 1: the cactus was in It was in of course it's
Speaker 1: Arizona Phoenix. Maybe that was in Tucson. I think maybe
Speaker 1: that very This bowl at the Chase Field used to
Speaker 1: be a dot com something. Yeah, it was an inside
Speaker 1: dot com. I was Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl too, yes
Speaker 1: at one point, thank you, all right, here we go,
Speaker 1: and now it's the Sideline Interference Director Bowl. There is
Speaker 1: seeing they change all those names to force everybody to
Speaker 1: use the sponsor name, Like you know, Orange Bowl. I'm
Speaker 1: always called the bowl called yeah, the Pulan we need
Speaker 1: your Independence Bowl. Hate Texas, A and M was a factor.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, noon today, Noon today, by the way, straight
Speaker 1: for Missouri. Now we're back a little bit better than that,
Speaker 1: I am. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys
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