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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. Oh, what a beautiful day

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Speaker 1: to talk cowboys here at the Star in Frisco. It's

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Speaker 1: a Thursday morning, and welcome to Talking Cowboys. Bill Jones

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Speaker 1: with Brian brought us and Rob Phillips and Mickey Spagnola

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Speaker 1: will be along shortly. What a difference a day makes

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Speaker 1: around this place? Yesterday was awful? Are you looking at

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Speaker 1: me for some reason? And I did listen to yesterday's show, Yes,

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Speaker 1: And what a difference a day makes for Brian brought us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: feeling much better today, right, So did that, So did

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Speaker 1: the young men that went out with me. Listened to

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Speaker 1: the show. And I got all these messages these guys

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Speaker 1: send to me. Haha, life short kind of a message,

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Speaker 1: but I appreciate everybody's saying I look better. By the

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Speaker 1: time I got to do periscope with Ambar late in

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Speaker 1: the day and it was like boy, it brought us

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Speaker 1: you rehydrated. Well, you look fresh. I saw you later

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Speaker 1: in the day and I didn't notice. Yeah, well, Phil,

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Speaker 1: trust me, you and I are about the same age.

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Speaker 1: Not easy being us. He's a gamer though. Like the

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Speaker 1: first two minutes of yesterday's show. I heard it, I

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Speaker 1: sound awful. He could barely speak, I know. And as

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Speaker 1: we got along entertaining. It was entertaining. But as we

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Speaker 1: got along, now you picked it up. You're That's what

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Speaker 1: champions do. I appreciate all the well wishes, folks. I'm

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Speaker 1: ready to I got a great fifteen hours of sleep.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready. The youngsters you went out with on Tuesday night,

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Speaker 1: Christmas night, yeah, how was their day yesterday? Well, that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, they were fine. No, those kids

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Speaker 1: are fine, and they they they roll, they go to work,

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Speaker 1: get up, roll out of bed, go to work. The

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Speaker 1: old man just doesn't make it that way. And so

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Speaker 1: at what age do we stop doing stupid things? I

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Speaker 1: thought it was a long time ago for me. I

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Speaker 1: used to burn the midnight oil and then there was

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Speaker 1: a certain point that I didn't do it anymore. And

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to really got married age that was? And

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Speaker 1: you got married, did you kind of stop doing stupid things. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was at another level before Marridge. Yeah, it did. Still.

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Speaker 1: I think once you hit thirty. Once I hit thirty,

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Speaker 1: I kind of stopped doing the downtown uptown thing. Were

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Speaker 1: you were you a night? Al Like you seem like

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Speaker 1: a fun guy to go out because you seem very responsible,

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Speaker 1: Like if you see somebody having too much to drink,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna let him drink anymore. I don't have

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Speaker 1: me friends like that. Where where were you the other night? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: With it was twelve family members. Yes, Rob's running all

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Speaker 1: over the place. Rob's a great teammate because I see

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Speaker 1: Rob is not letting people do anything stupid. No, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that to you. Even

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Speaker 1: if your wedding you let me kind of you were like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I don't. I don't remember anything about that. The

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Speaker 1: whole thing was blurred, but I do remember you kissing

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Speaker 1: me on the cheek. I appreciate that. That was why. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was Yeah, did you kiss anybody on the cheek

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Speaker 1: Tuesday night? Brian that you were called? No? Okay, I didn't,

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Speaker 1: all right, I was good and Mickey I did sing

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Speaker 1: what's the song John Demmer's uh Rocky Mountain. Yeah, Christmas heven,

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Speaker 1: West Virginia. I sang that song as loud as I

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Speaker 1: could possibly sing it in a bar, did you? And

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Speaker 1: it was the I'm sorry, John Denver, I did that

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Speaker 1: to you. But yeah, I thought you would sing a

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Speaker 1: Christmas song from John Denver on Nestmas night, Daddy, don't

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Speaker 1: get drunk this Christmas Dad. That was that. It should

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Speaker 1: have probably said that talk about take me Home Country Road,

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Speaker 1: take Me Home Country, Yes, closed. Everybody sings it's like sweet,

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Speaker 1: It's like sweet, It's like sweet Caroline. Right, everybody knows

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Speaker 1: the words that song. Ye in a West Virginia your

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Speaker 1: football game, they say all night long. Yeah, And there

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Speaker 1: was another song you were say Alabama. It wasn't sweet

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Speaker 1: Home Alabama. There's another Alabama song that they played before gaming.

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Speaker 1: You hear that when you're taking an L. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: Mickey made a great point. He didn't recall that any

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Speaker 1: places open on a Christmas. Yeah, there's there's places that

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Speaker 1: I heard The Rustic was open on Yeah. There's establishments, folks,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he's feel But it was that was funny yesterday.

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Speaker 1: had great conversations about rust rests. Yeah, I needed rest.

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Speaker 1: I need somebody to take me out of it. Uh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you talking to folks and rob I

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Speaker 1: don't know, if you visit with anybody, yes, say Bill,

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Speaker 1: you might have. I'm sure Mickey when he comes rolling

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Speaker 1: in here. You know. The only thing that I heard

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Speaker 1: wasn't Dak Prescott and Cooper Rush split and reps and

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Speaker 1: it wasn't The offensive line was with the exception of

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Speaker 1: Tyron Smith and Zack Martin, it was all hands on deck. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the in the defensive line without the exception of Tyron

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Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford. He was ordering the line. Looked good, looked good,

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Speaker 1: He out ordered it. There you go. Yeah, how can

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Speaker 1: But no, Tyron Crawford looked good. I'm just saying that

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Speaker 1: I hate being out ordered on the road wherever. That's first,

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Speaker 1: time they set your plate in front of you and

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Speaker 1: just got out ordered. You know. That's that's But anyway,

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Speaker 1: this guy Gala's got their game on. And then that

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Speaker 1: you bring in and I'm going, oh, My goal is

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Speaker 1: to out order you once at the combine I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 1: You'll get in. You'll the best I can. But but

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Speaker 1: what's going on. But yeah, Mickey, we're talking about just

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Speaker 1: the only different rotation you might have talked to some folks.

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Speaker 1: The only different rotation that I was kind of hearing

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Speaker 1: more reps. Anybody tell you anything differently or that they

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Speaker 1: were all they were playing the same way status quo. No,

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Speaker 1: but I assumed he was going to So that doesn't suffrise.

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Speaker 1: Do what now it looks good? Oh yeah, well, what's

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Speaker 1: the occasion I wanted to out dress you? Yeah he did.

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Speaker 1: I had to get dressed up to Bill's got I

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Speaker 1: was getting my Will McClay segment today. So I had

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Speaker 1: a shower this morning. Very good. Bill's got a nine

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Speaker 1: ten eighteen tea time the guest Christmas sweater. That's what

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Speaker 1: addition is like, Yeah, it looks good. I've got a

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Speaker 1: we've all seen that at the so it's like camp,

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Speaker 1: let's just go right out in the open. Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome to so dinner. What I feel sorry for people

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Speaker 1: that just got to hang out there. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: ten I go in. Yeah, the running back rotation you're

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Speaker 1: speaking of. Yeah, So, so do you think Zeke's gonna play? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I do? I do? And how now how much and

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Speaker 1: and and for that matter, how much are certain starters

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Speaker 1: going to play? Once you get into the later stages

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Speaker 1: of that game, we'll see, I think. But Jason Garrett's

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Speaker 1: not acting like anybody's gonna sit down. No, you know

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Speaker 1: he's not. But he's been consistent about that. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: wonder what he was saying leading up to the Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: game two years ago, the season finale two, the same thing.

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Speaker 1: No he was, he was, Yeah, he was, play the

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Speaker 1: same thing Cats. And then all of a sudden, Mark

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Speaker 1: Sanchez made an appearance, you know, And I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: the snap coups from that game, and of course Zeke

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Speaker 1: didn't play. Yeah. Out in twenty fourteen, Mick, correct me

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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, guys, because I wasn't here that season.

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Speaker 1: Did they have were they locked in in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: late in the season, and Romo played pretty much the

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Speaker 1: because they still had something to play. They had something

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Speaker 1: get the second seed if they and Romo and Dez

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Speaker 1: Bryan and those guys. Murray, they went into the third quarter. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they went into the third quarter and then the game

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Speaker 1: became a thirty eight to something game. Maybe I'm sorry again,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm going back a few No. No, think

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Speaker 1: of Garrett's history doing this. Oh No, He's been consistent.

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Speaker 1: He's been consistent when he tells us the guys that

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Speaker 1: that's the that all these games do mean something to him,

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Speaker 1: and he's trying to find a way to win the game.

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Speaker 1: And I do I believe that. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: even if he pulls these guys that he's gonna sit

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Speaker 1: there and go, Okay, I understand we're playing with backups. Now,

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Speaker 1: it didn't matter. It's gonna matter. Yeah, No, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: try and win this thumb, He's gonna try and win

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Speaker 1: this almost right. Well, it's just like, okay, what if

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Speaker 1: you lost Zeke in the first quarter of a game.

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Speaker 1: I mean you you got to have Rod Smith ready,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have Darres Jackson read if he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: on the game day roster or whatever, you know, and

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Speaker 1: so you still have that mindset, Yeah, we're winning this game,

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Speaker 1: We're working to win this game or whatever. In that

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Speaker 1: game two years ago, Tyran Smith did not play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sean Lee, Yeah, remember Shaun Lee had his helmet buckled

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Speaker 1: the whole game. Zeke dress but didn't play right, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at starters. Witten played like twenty two snaps

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Speaker 1: in that game. Em mt Clary was the left tackle.

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Speaker 1: Joe Looney was the left guard, played the whole game

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Speaker 1: at left guard. Yeah, and that playing the left guard

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Speaker 1: for would that at time been Ron Leary two years ago?

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Speaker 1: Larry was nursing an injury then, I don't remember growing injury.

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Speaker 1: Didn't Ron Leary was always a rod injury. But Travis

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Speaker 1: Frederick played the whole game, Zach Martin played the whole game.

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Speaker 1: Doug Free played the whole game. And this gets back too, well,

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Speaker 1: if you if you're sitting Tyrn Smith, then you're sitting

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Speaker 1: Ronald Learry. Then you just don't have enough offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: for those other guys to take any snaps. They actually

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Speaker 1: have enough to Okay, they could go Flaming at left tackle.

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Speaker 1: They could go Suefilo at left guard. They could go

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Speaker 1: Looney at the center, Connor Williams, or they Connor Williams

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Speaker 1: You know, I think is? I think is. And Jason

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Speaker 1: you know, you want to go and win these games.

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Speaker 1: But I also understand though that that playoffs is that's

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Speaker 1: what you're trying to You're there, You're you have an

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Speaker 1: talked about this, the two healthiest teams will be in

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Speaker 1: two the two teams that have withstood all the months

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Speaker 1: of football, all the games, and they get to the

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Speaker 1: point of the end, and it'll be the two healthiest teams.

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Speaker 1: You know, It'll be the you know, and these playoff

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Speaker 1: games will get affected by somebody not playing. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's playoff chances could be affected by James Connor lining

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Speaker 1: up and playing. And that's gonna happen in a playoff game. Hey, look,

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Speaker 1: something's gonna happen where a big time player is not

439
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Speaker 1: going to be able to suit up and his and

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Speaker 1: his team is going to be handicapped. Well when playing

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Speaker 1: game this Sunday, and Mariota's I assume very questionable to play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you what do you think the Rams are

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Speaker 1: thinking right now? Gurley? Yeah? Is it worth playing him

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Speaker 1: to get the second seed? He hasn't played in what

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Speaker 1: two weeks, and and he's he's questionable at this point.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna stick him out there with a sprain knee. Now,

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Speaker 1: They've got to keep winning to get the second But

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm asking, Is it worth it, man? Because

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Speaker 1: what if you get it and then you don't have

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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley? Well, yeah, Minnesota, look at the mean the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Think about I mean the Bears. Their quarterback has had

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Speaker 1: a bad shoulder for like I mean, and they've got

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Speaker 1: they've got a decision they gotta make. Do you play

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Speaker 1: sit back? And you would say, okay, wait a minute, now,

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Speaker 1: we would rather face Minnesota again than we would face Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: And I know this is against every probably TV the philosophy,

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Speaker 1: help the West Coast teams. Why don't you play at yeah,

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Speaker 1: three o'clock, yea, or everybody at in the East coast

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Speaker 1: other thing I brought up. Not at ten am Monday

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Speaker 1: also gave us a new TV for the bedroom. Oh

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Speaker 1: we haven't heard. You haven't had You don't have a

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Speaker 1: TV in your bedroom? We had a TV in the bedroom,

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Speaker 1: but it's about thirty years old. Black and white. No

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Speaker 1: it's not black and white, but it's like HD. Click.

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Speaker 1: My son in law, Colin, goes in there for summer.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why he's in my bedroom, but he

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Speaker 1: apparently months ago went in there and saw the TV

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Speaker 1: he said, we're getting them an HD TV. All right,

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Speaker 1: So I get you know how old those TVs are?

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Speaker 1: If you try to go take them to some Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how do I get rid of it? They won't take it?

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Speaker 1: What do I do? Because of the tube thing? How

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Speaker 1: do I get rid of it? They thrown in a

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Speaker 1: garbage you can you put they will take it. The

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Speaker 1: garbage man will don't let him sit there. I paid

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Speaker 1: a guy come out salvage guy, for you know, fifty

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Speaker 1: bucks and he took him one. I mean, this thing

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Speaker 1: was like was this American Pluckers? That show Got Young

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite show. You haven't seen that truck

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Speaker 1: on the big screen. Here you go, so forth, great

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Speaker 1: way to watch the Cowboys. I think it's an outdoor event.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it is or not, but they

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Speaker 1: got screens indoors too at the Star in Frisco. Right,

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Speaker 1: very good? Yes? Okay? Um, Ray and fort Worth your

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Speaker 1: next up here on talking Cowboys. Hello, Ray, Hey, how

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Speaker 1: you doing? Hey? Bill? I don't I don't know where

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Speaker 1: you live that depending on where you live your rules.

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Speaker 1: I know a city of Fort Work won't let you

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Speaker 1: put a TV out like there, you'll get a ticket.

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Speaker 1: And basically my parents had a TV like that. Brother

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Speaker 1: you had to show him your water bill to show

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Speaker 1: it that you live in that city. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know what your rules are, so you might want to

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Speaker 1: check with that. That's good advice. Or just take it

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Speaker 1: apart piece by piece. That sounds fund wat to do that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get somebody to do that for you. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: you don't want to get a ticket, and you set

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Speaker 1: it out to the curb, I don't know. Maybe you could,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know what your rules are. Better put

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Speaker 1: your recycling then, yeah, yeah, I just put it down

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Speaker 1: the bottom and then put stuff on the clock. Once

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Speaker 1: it's a little bigger than the recycling. You can't you

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Speaker 1: can't do it like that. I wouldn't risk it. Just

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to get a ticket. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: risk I'm about to take it to the talking cow. Okay,

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Speaker 1: A couple of questions. I just it's a delicate situation.

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Speaker 1: I think when I just looked at the playoff picture,

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Speaker 1: it looks like we're going to play Seattle. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's an outside chance you had to pay Minnesota and

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Speaker 1: we were about to play a physical football team here.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't play Zeke at all. I know you a.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. That poor guy has been taken

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Speaker 1: a beating problems in the red zone? Is it teams?

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Speaker 1: No ninety there? Our tendencies are we're just gonna turn

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Speaker 1: it around the Zeke. They just loaded up on the run.

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Speaker 1: That I think that's part of it. I think that

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's offensive coordinator situation. Yeah, teams know you're

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Speaker 1: just gonna turn around a hand Zeke, but you gotta

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Speaker 1: you gotta give them something else to worry about. We

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Speaker 1: haven't done that enough in the red zone, especially in

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Speaker 1: gold to gold situations. I wouldn't play Zeke at all.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't play nobody. This hurt um. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You got enough offensive linement and to play this game

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Speaker 1: to get through the game. Maybe you treat it if

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Speaker 1: if you got enough bodies, maybe you treat it like

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Speaker 1: a a preseason game, a quarter and a half. But

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Speaker 1: Zeke wouldn't touch the ball at all. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: that brings up entries in point that Sean Payton made

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Speaker 1: had if we had that situation, well, okay, you could

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Speaker 1: get away with that. But I would try to treat

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Speaker 1: this as a as a I know, I know Mickey

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Speaker 1: said the last show ten and six sounds a lot better.

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Speaker 1: I don't give a crap about that. The real season

641
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Speaker 1: starts next week. I worry about that game, not no

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Speaker 1: winning ten and six. I try to get through this

643
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Speaker 1: game with a little injuries as possible. I wouldn't play

644
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Speaker 1: nobody maybe a quarter and a half if you got

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Speaker 1: enough bodies to do that. But Zeke doesn't touch the

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Speaker 1: ball at all. Thanks guys, I'm with them on the

647
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Speaker 1: ten and six. I mean, three years. Only people I

648
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Speaker 1: think people are gonna remember is that they won the division.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't care about the record. It's horowably doing

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Speaker 1: the postseason that too. Mostly that, but so going into

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652
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Speaker 1: They gave Zeke the ball seven times this isn't gonna

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Speaker 1: be pretty and he got seventeen yards. Yeah, and there

655
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Speaker 1: was a bunch for negative. Yeah. So it's that's not

656
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Speaker 1: it's not working. And what what he just said is

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Speaker 1: they have tried other things. Sure, unfortunately the execution hasn't

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Speaker 1: been perfect, but they have given people something else to

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Speaker 1: think about. The end around to Marie Cooper, right, you

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Speaker 1: don't block the defensive end and he makes the tackle

662
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Speaker 1: for a loss. You tried running Dac one time and

663
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Speaker 1: he gets dumped for a five yard loss. So they

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Speaker 1: have done different things. They just haven't executed well. Because

665
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: the bread and butter, they're taking it away from you.

666
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, no, Zeke, you won't Yeah, And they

667
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: tried to take it away two years ago. But the

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00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: Cowboys had an offensive line Zach was superior, a center

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Speaker 1: that con get to the second level, get blocks along

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00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 1: the lines of Zeke and running backs in general. Your

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Speaker 1: favorite website pro foot Well, this is Pro Football Focus. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's his favorite website. Yes, mine too, all right. They

673
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: put a tweet out yesterday, often a good indicator of performance.

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Speaker 1: Here are the top thirty halfbacks ranked by tackles avoided

675
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Speaker 1: per rushing attempt with a minimum one hundred attempts. It's

676
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: a lot of words, tackles, tackles avoided. Yeah, okay, not

677
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Speaker 1: running through tackles, but it's you make the first tackles avoided?

678
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Speaker 1: Where do you think Zeke ranks among the top thirty

679
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: on their list? And eighteen again? This is again, this

680
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Speaker 1: is them looking at coaches film and deciding that they

681
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: avoided that tackle or did not over if they did. Yeah, eighteenth,

682
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: you got Zeke at number eighteen. Again, this is often

683
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Speaker 1: a good indicator of how good a running back or

684
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Speaker 1: the performance of a running back. Okay, he gets hit

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Speaker 1: a lot, eighteen, eighteen. I'll take fifteen, Robin go ten, Yeah, twelve,

686
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Speaker 1: twenty ninth, Yeah, twenty ninth out of thirty. I guess

687
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Speaker 1: who number thirty is, uh, Todd Gurley. Todd Gurley. Yeah

688
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: that's right. So now this means we should not pay

689
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Speaker 1: any attention to pro football, I said, I said so,

690
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: he said, often a good indicator performance the top thirty

691
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: half number one ranked by tackles avoided per rushing attempt. Okay,

692
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: I said, an even better indicator or performance is yards gained. Yes,

693
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Speaker 1: and of course the first who first, Who's first, number

694
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: one on the list is Melvin Gordon. Okay, okay, no

695
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: quarrel two hundred one rushing attempts, tackles avoided forty one.

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Speaker 1: That means tackles avoided per attempt zero point two four.

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00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: But but if he's avoided forty one tackles forty one

698
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: touchdowns because at some point he got tackles at some point,

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00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: you have to go down right an Zeke has thirty

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00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: ze Mickey to just kick. Zeke has thirty seven tackles

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00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: avoided in three hundred and fifty two attempts. Okay, Gordon

702
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: has forty one and two hundred one attempts. I'm saying, though,

703
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: the number on the list is Kareem Hunt, three, Kenyon Drake,

704
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: then Nick Chubb and Dalvin Cook. There's your top five,

705
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Speaker 1: and the number of carries for each or two O one,

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Speaker 1: two twelve, eighty eight and one thirty seven. Collins is

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Speaker 1: number six at one forty four carries. Unfortunately, Kareem Hunt

708
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: made one too many tackles. But this also doesn't take

709
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: into not wrong. This also does he should have avoided

710
00:37:54,600 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: tackles avoided also does not take into account a running

711
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Speaker 1: back who gets hit and maybe that tackler gets credited

712
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: with the tackle. Yeah, and yet that running back is

713
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Speaker 1: able to get an extra one, two or even three

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Speaker 1: yards on that particular Kerry, are we talking alike at

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage anywhere on the are just anywhere

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Speaker 1: tackles avoided? I am insane. No, my head is spinning.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Hey, PFF did get Byron Jones in

718
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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Partly give him credit for that, you

719
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Speaker 1: think because on being on the those primetime games and

720
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: stuff like that, they were touting him all season that

721
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Speaker 1: he was graded maybe number one, number two all season.

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00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: My point is, any list and I don't take an accounting. Okay,

723
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Speaker 1: that's a great list for the Melvin Gordon type back

724
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: or whatever you know. Okay, that's fine, okay, But any

725
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: any list that has Zeke Elliott twenty ninth, Todd Gurley thirtieth, yeah,

726
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: and se Quon Barkley twenty third is not a good

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Speaker 1: indicator of performance of half back. Barkley's analytics. Yeah, sa

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Speaker 1: Quon Barkley is the closest thing I've seen to Barry

729
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Speaker 1: Sanders in my career. So what happens, avoiding it might

730
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Speaker 1: be a good indicator of a yes. By the way, yeah,

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Speaker 1: say one more time. Sa Quon Barkley is the closest

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Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen to Barry Sanders when it comes

733
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Speaker 1: to avoiding tacklers. And he's Yeah. The best indicator for

734
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Speaker 1: me performance besides his yardage is yards after contact. The

735
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,880
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736
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737
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: contact might get credited with the tackle. Yeah, so it's

738
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Speaker 1: not a tackle avoided. And yet he just dragged that

739
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Speaker 1: guy for an extra four yards, right, He does that

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742
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Speaker 1: after you clear him, is that a tackle for that guy? Might?

743
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Speaker 1: You avoided it and last person to touch him? So

744
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: it was not a tackle avoided. But somebody though he

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Speaker 1: I'm like, settled down over there. It was Roger Staubach. Well,

844
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: he was there for his grandson's game. He was playing

845
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: against Bennett, and he was like getting him that he

846
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: was I'm like, settle down over there about yelling, And

847
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: the next thing I know, my son's getting his picture

848
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: with Roger Staubach. I'm like going, oh God, I didn't

849
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: have my glass, so you said it to him for him.

850
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: He's I'm on the other side of the field and

851
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm like piped down over there. Roger Roger, and Roger

852
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: was getting on the official. One of the nicest people

853
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: you'll ever meet. He was getting on the official and

854
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm like and I'm and I'm like the dad that

855
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: never But he was driving me nuts, you know, yelling

856
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: at the official. It's a flat football game, you know,

857
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: and I and I and then I yelled, I'm yelling

858
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: at Roger Stauback. I'm like, oh God, would I just

859
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: do I didn't go years ago I was. I was

860
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: at doing a live shot from a chair. It was

861
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: more than a couple of about five years ago, doing

862
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: live shot from a charity basketball game. There's a lot

863
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: of former Cowboys that were playing in it. Uh at

864
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: one of the high schools in Carrollton. And what a

865
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: lady who is a basketball official there. She sees me

866
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: and says, I remember you South, Like, oh no, man,

867
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: that's not me. There's a lot of people at South

868
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: like no Night of the South like sports program. You

869
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: know how good I was as they had referee for

870
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: flag football. We had they got the fields next each other, right,

871
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: so like four games one same time. And one of

872
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: the rules was for flag football you couldn't dive to

873
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: grab the flag and if you did the official was

874
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: supposed to not blow the whistle because it's illegal, and

875
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: then they get penalized afterwards. Right, So I'm one of

876
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: my guys that the one of the players dove and

877
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: one of my guys blows his whistle right, and a

878
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: guy runs for a touchdown, and it's like, no one stopped. Right.

879
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: So it's like I called the touchdown. He blew the whistle.

880
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: I said, no, he didn't. He goes, yeah, I heard it.

881
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: He blew the whistle. I go, no, it was on

882
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: the other field. But thinking nicky avoiding the introverted whistle.

883
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: You know one thing about Mickey and this is the

884
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: last on the official talk with Mickey, Okay, one thing

885
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: I would love to hear. I would love to hear

886
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: Mickey as a referee at an NFL game where he

887
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: makes the announcement of what the call is. Yeah, can't

888
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: you make that announcement for us? That should be a

889
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: bucket Listen, I just ance one the hat. Can't to

890
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: do this? Maybe like Hall of Fame game or something. Yeah,

891
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: that's great exhibition. Call a false start, Mickey, just right now,

892
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: you can just call a false star fall start. Little

893
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: thing number seventy five offense. Can you do it right?

894
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: To do it animated too? No, I can't do the animation.

895
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: You can do it right now. No, I just did it. No.

896
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: I want you to know you have you have the

897
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: microphone on. You're telling the world. What do you come on?

898
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: We'll all start number seventy six offense, five yards, five yard.

899
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: Pilly still remains first down there. Yeah, there we go.

900
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Albert in Philadelphia. Hello, Albert, Hey, Hey, hey,

901
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: hey Bill, did you say seventy five in honor of

902
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: Phil Pozz Derek. Yeah, exactly, That's exactly what I had

903
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: on my mind. Yep, Phil Pazz Derek. Okay, the last

904
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: time I called was last day in ox Start. I

905
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: said that late in Vandergh. After all said and done,

906
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of the best linebackers in Cowboy history.

907
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's starting to go. I hope you got

908
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: start information I sent chill. Oh yeah, I do. Hey,

909
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: thank you so much for doing that. That's very nice

910
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: for you to do that. I appreciate you. What did

911
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: you get? I asked one time on the on the

912
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: on our show on the uh the Happy Hour, I

913
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: asked about the one gift I'd like to get and

914
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: Electric Football because I wanted to pass it down to Bennett.

915
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: Do you electric remember the game Vibrating Field? I was,

916
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: and yes in the gentleman right here semi information. I

917
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: do appreciate it. Very kind of you to do that.

918
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: Thank you, No problem, the problem, Rob. I care about

919
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: our history. I care about seeing ten to six and

920
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: the media guide five years from now. As from a

921
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: fan like me who pays to go these games, I'm like, right,

922
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, see us are some of our starters play.

923
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: I remember twenty fourteen that you know, we rolled through

924
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: the Redskins the week after we won the division, and

925
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: we won the next week in the division game, I

926
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: mean in the wild card game. Uh two years ago

927
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: we sat people in Philly. I was at that game too,

928
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: and you know we came out real slow. Dak Prescott

929
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: Clinton had a post power to save his life and

930
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: we lost. Yeah. Yeah, but they scored thirty one points. Yeah.

931
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: I thought he dueled him pretty well though. That Rogers

932
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: Rogers beat you on an incredible Oh. I know, I

933
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: understand that. I understand that that's a mad example. You

934
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: were rolling really well there by the way, though, you

935
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: were going well, thank you. Well, I still think I'm

936
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: going well, I think, um, somebody gets hurt in this game. Pathetically.

937
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna be Garrett. Oh no, no, no, you don't. Don't.

938
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: Don't go there. You're not gonna say you're gonna call

939
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call him Monday, Martin. I'm not talking

940
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: about a guy like that. I mean, of course, sit

941
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: him down. Sure, But whoever is really hurt doesn't need

942
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: to play. But and I'm not saying play the entire game,

943
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: but I mean at least put a good effort out

944
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: there for the fans who pay for it to go

945
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: see these games. I've been to the last three games

946
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: of the season, and I'm sick and tired of being shafted. Okay,

947
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: well if that's one, if that's your argument, then go

948
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: with that. I mean, you kind of set everything up

949
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: like you're I had tons of things to say, no,

950
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: but but no, But seriously, you you know, the fact

951
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: of the matter is if you were working in this organization,

952
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: you would you would not take this attitude. Did you

953
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: have now? You wouldn't. There's no way you would take

954
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: this attitude. Well, Brian, I agree with most of time,

955
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: with most of the things you say. Right, No, I'm

956
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: not asking you to agree with me. I'm just saying,

957
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: is a let's take the last year we had nothing

958
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: to play for it, right Hey, we're saying, oh, well,

959
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: we can't get abody for the next season. I mean,

960
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: come one, who said that? Yeah? Well who said? What?

961
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: I know? I didn't like they weren't. Seriously, No, no,

962
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. You should hurt next year? You should? I mean, no,

963
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: you don't. I would like to see some of our

964
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: guys play, and all right, I just seriously, if you weren't,

965
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: if you you know, I understand the fans and the money.

966
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: I get that, trust me, Okay, my family is a

967
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: season ticket holders for twenty years. I get it. Okay,

968
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: but if you sat down right now and you lost

969
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: the guy that could help you get into to win

970
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: a playoff game, you would be losing your absolute mind

971
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: right now. I respect for your coming from, especially from

972
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: since you were a Scout. I truly do respect that.

973
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: But as and as a fan, I kind of get that.

974
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: But I but I want to see I want to

975
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm a history buffs. I want to see ys.

976
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: Get that time wink. All right, fair enough? Good. You

977
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: know what, I think the Giants care that they went

978
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: nine and seven and oh seven, I think they care.

979
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I love our cars, I really do.

980
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: But man, that that one kind of and I appreciate him.

981
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Give me the electric football thing. That was very kind of.

982
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: You know. It was better than that though. It was

983
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: the hockey. Hockey was awesome, like hockey. You know. Also,

984
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: when I was in college, it wasn't the electric football,

985
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: the vibrating game. It was the electronic football. I just discovered.

986
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: I just discovered the discs you put him in the

987
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: I just discovered football. The handheld game was back. Yeah

988
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: this Christmas, and I didn't get it for Christmas. Yeah,

989
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: I love the electronic football. Maybe I was such a

990
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: great electronic football players just go up and down, up

991
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: and down, up and down, and then break for the break. Basically, yeah,

992
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: are you familiar with this game? Never played? That? Make

993
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: you love? It? Makes great sounds too, oh right, the

994
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: joys of being younger than you get this is a

995
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: video game. What do you mean There's no way, there's

996
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: there's no way. I'm just sitting here thinking there's no

997
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: way that the fans would forgive anybody here if they

998
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: get if they got somebody hurt. Trust me, we all

999
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: have Twitter. Everybody is an expert here. You know what

1000
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so if you tell me that you

1001
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: go out there place somebody just to get a tenth win,

1002
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: you've played your ass off to get it to this

1003
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: point to where you can have an option. This isn't Minnesota,

1004
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: this isn't Indianapolis, this isn't Tennessee. You know, this is

1005
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: not Philadelphia. You know you now if you have a

1006
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: chance to play, this a way to give your team

1007
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: the best chance to win a more important game than

1008
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: the tenth game. What was the caller's name, Albert? Albert.

1009
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I respect his point. He talked about like

1010
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: trying to put a good product out there. They're practicing

1011
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: to go play well and put a good product on

1012
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: the field this Sunday. Now, how often how much some

1013
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 1: of these guys are playing, that remains to be seen.

1014
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: But they're not sitting around this week drinking gatorade. I mean,

1015
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: they're trying to get ready to play this game and

1016
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: next day sharp. And we're not talking about a fourth

1017
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: preseason game where you're sitting thirty guys. You have to play,

1018
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: you can't physically do it. Yes, you've played your ass

1019
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 1: off to get to this point. That that in itself,

1020
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: you should be happy about it, and I'm sure Albert

1021
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: is happy about that, But to win ten game, No,

1022
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: they won thirteen games and didn't need you know, at

1023
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: home field and didn't get to where they needed to be,

1024
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: the first team in like NFL history to have the

1025
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: number one seed and not get to the super Bowl.

1026
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: Whatever works was right. That's what I said the first segment.

1027
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: If Garrett is damned if you do, damn if you don't.

1028
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: But what gives you the best chance out there trying

1029
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: to win this game or to get the playoffs success

1030
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: long term? It's making sure you got all your guys healthy.

1031
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: Now you got a factor in RUSS. But it's different

1032
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: than two years ago because there's not a full week

1033
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: off in between what's RUSS. They've been they've been, I

1034
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: mean it's been it's been playoff atmosphere for eight weeks.

1035
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: Now we worry about they are what they are, they

1036
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: really are, that this team is what what it is.

1037
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells told us after Thanksgiving, you are what you are.

1038
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: This team won enough games to win the division and

1039
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: get into playoffs. This is what they're going to go

1040
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: to battle with. Give me the best opportunity to go

1041
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: to battle with what I have to go win one

1042
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: of these games there. And I love you, I really do.

1043
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: About fans being short change, not being able to pay

1044
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: good money to watch the team play, Nobody respects that

1045
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: more to trust me, it's hard to go to a

1046
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: game nowadays. It's hard meal for the Boston College in

1047
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: Boise State fans who came down here. The whole point

1048
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: we were, Mickey, you could get a ticket for next

1049
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: year's game. Mickey and I and I did Star Sports tour.

1050
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: There's all these people from Boise here. Yeah, I mean

1051
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Speaker 1: they came your Christmas playing. They went to see the Cowboy.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully they got to see the Cowboys play Tampa and

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Speaker 1: then get to go to the game hopefully. Stuff. That

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Speaker 1: was rough weather here yesterday. But that's tough, that's really tough.

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Speaker 1: And well the other part of that is I saw

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Speaker 1: that where the teams were saying that they were were

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Speaker 1: staying that night too. They weren't leaving right after the game. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: so they're staying in the hotel one more night. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they could have played this morning. Leven am. How about

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Speaker 1: how about playing this morning? It's a beautiful day for football.

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Speaker 1: But you said it just stakes when I crossed you

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Speaker 1: yesterday TV TV, But ESPN doesn't have games and starting

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Speaker 1: to do. They have gas going on all day play

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Speaker 1: at nine am the next morning. But we got the reason.

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Speaker 1: Oh we've got Steven A. Smith screaming out us. The

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Speaker 1: only reason they have those games is for ESPN, exactly

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Speaker 1: the ones. And once that lightning delay got past one

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Speaker 1: hour and they could not fit that game into a

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Speaker 1: four hour window before the next Bowl game started, then

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Speaker 1: ESPN pull the plug on it. Yep. That's what all

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Speaker 1: these Bowl games are. And that's why I say they

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Speaker 1: couldn't play content, Go ahead and play. They don't have

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Speaker 1: Bowl games today until at least eleven, yeah, twelve. And

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Speaker 1: how many channels does ESPN have? I put it on.

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Speaker 1: She played some bad games on some of those. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't even find it. It was like on the Classic.

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Speaker 1: It was like way when the Cheese It Bowl? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where did that used to be? That's probably the Cactus

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Speaker 1: Bowl before that. It's a phoenix Phoenix at the but

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Speaker 1: it's at Chase Field, at the home of the Diamondback.

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Speaker 1: Cactus Bowl. The Cactus play that they were talking about

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Speaker 1: a record, and I'm going that the cheese It bowls

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Speaker 1: got like history. By the way, the First Responders Bowl

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Speaker 1: put out a tweet that said the game has been

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Speaker 1: ruled a no contest. Yeah, and that's her motto, right,

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Speaker 1: I said, I said, God, I hope the Orange Bowl

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Speaker 1: doesn't tweet that on Saturday night. Now the game has

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Speaker 1: been ruled a no contest. Oh boy, I'm afraid it

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Speaker 1: would be. That's a really quick question for you. What

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Speaker 1: do you get it? I got it. What's the deal

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Speaker 1: with snack food in Arizona to tostidos cheese? It's do

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Speaker 1: we have all snack foods have to go to Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I want to want a gold bowler. Give me a

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Speaker 1: goldfish bowl. That's my favorite snack. Stink goldfish bowl, stink

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Speaker 1: rural goldfish. That was the bold I used to have

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Speaker 1: in Tucson. There was a wasn't the cat I thought

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Speaker 1: the cactus was in It was in of course it's

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Speaker 1: Arizona Phoenix. Maybe that was in Tucson. I think maybe

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Speaker 1: that very This bowl at the Chase Field used to

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Speaker 1: be a dot com something. Yeah, it was an inside

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Speaker 1: dot com. I was Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl too, yes

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Speaker 1: at one point, thank you, all right, here we go,

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Speaker 1: and now it's the Sideline Interference Director Bowl. There is

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Speaker 1: seeing they change all those names to force everybody to

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Speaker 1: use the sponsor name, Like you know, Orange Bowl. I'm

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Speaker 1: always called the bowl called yeah, the Pulan we need

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Speaker 1: your Independence Bowl. Hate Texas, A and M was a factor.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, noon today, Noon today, by the way, straight

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Speaker 1: for Missouri. Now we're back a little bit better than that,

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Speaker 1: I am. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.