1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Wrestling with Freddie. Thank you for coming 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: back to us. I had a lovely winter break. I 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: hope you guys did as well. I went on a 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: trip with the Trip. Before you have kids, they're called vacations, 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: they're wonderful, they're fantastic, and post kids, they're called trips, 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: and there is no such thing as a vacation until 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: they graduate and move out. So let's start the show. 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wrestling with Freddy. Now stuffing up for the mic. 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: The host of Wrestling with Freddie, Freddie Prince Junya. But 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: we went to Hawaii, Home of the Rock, and it 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: was lovely. I felt the Mana, I felt the magic. 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: I've always felt the magic there. Actually lived there when 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: I was a little kid, only for six months. My 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: mom was working in a hotel and she was in 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: the hotel industry. She was a chef and uh we 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: stayed on Oahu in Honolulu. But I was just a 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: little kid. But I guess you just get some kind 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: of weird connection to that place. The only thing I 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: could link it to that I felt similar is New 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: Mexico because it's such an old land. I mean, when 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: we were kids, we would go on field trips to 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: like the Anasazi ruins, which were built into walls, and 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: you would see civilizations that live there. There's a magic 24 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: to New Mexico. But Hawaii is a special place, I think. 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: And the Rock talks about Mana, right, but that's that's 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: real because it's like lava coming from the center of 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: the earth out and it's it's it's an earth builder, 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So there's a lot of 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: power there and it's very humbling. And the point of 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: this is, when I'm an old, fat, retired guy, I'll 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: probably live there and I'll start my own little indie 32 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: Hawaiian Wrestling Federation. But I digress. We're back to the 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: show and it's gonna be no guest today. You're stuck 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: with Uncle Freddie and you're gonna get some stories. And 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: I thought we would kind of take it old school, 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: not old school like the old days, but just old school, 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: meaning three of the dudes that weren't necessarily people I 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: worked with, but people that had an impact on me, 39 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: that were there before me, during my time there and 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: long after. And we'd start and I've talked about John 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: Cena's distaste for me when I was there a little bit, 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: but I thought we would kind of deep dive into that, um, 43 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: deep dive into my relationship with with Kane, who has 44 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: mayor Glenn Jacobs. That's right, people, he is the mayor 45 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: of a small town in Tennessee and uh. And then 46 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: finally with Chris Jericho with a conversation he and I 47 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: had that really kind of broke down Vince for me, 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: and people go, I love your your your perspective and 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: your philosophy on Vince. Well, these perspectives come from experiences 50 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: with other people who are more experienced than me, and 51 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: I sort of I rely on their on their knowledge 52 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: to kind of come up with my own opinions with 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: live in a world today where opinions are solidified so 54 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: quickly because of a like button, or even worse, the retweet, 55 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: because then you're you're you're reiterating something that you just 56 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: saw that must be fact. Um. But I you know, 57 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: I'm forty five, so I didn't grow up with that, 58 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: and I kind of wait to make my my opinion 59 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: on someone until I have as much information as I'm 60 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: comfortable with. And my generation is just I think, maybe 61 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: comfortable with more or uncomfortable with less information. Maybe that's 62 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: a very brustly way to say it. We started at 63 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: the company and me and this other writer, Angelo, who 64 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: I've I've mentioned a couple of times on the show 65 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: before all the writers would take heat from meaning they 66 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: would catch a lot of crap from the talent, because 67 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: a lot of the old school talent doesn't think there's 68 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: a need for writers, and I tend to agree with 69 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: a lot of them, because a lot of the men 70 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: and women that are over in that company are highly 71 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: capable of writing or improving their own promos in ring 72 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: or backstage, and they don't really require writers. Sina. I mean, 73 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: Brian Gowertz wrote for him, but Sena could write his 74 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: own promos if he wanted to, and I'm a hundred 75 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: percent certain that he did many a time, or at 76 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: least rewrote what Brian laid down for him in some 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: bullet points and then filled it in. They worked together, 78 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: but John was a hundred percent capable as people can 79 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: see now, he's an incredibly talented actor, uh a talented 80 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: artist period. And I've always said I respected John even 81 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: though he didn't like me when I was there, because 82 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: I was an actor, which he is now, um, but 83 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: I always respected him because John was willing to wear 84 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: the crown during the g rated era, and that was 85 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: a crown that no top guy wanted. John made his 86 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: bones being the opposite of the Marine. John made his 87 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: bones being a brash, in your face, white rapper who 88 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: would talk trash to you, and you know, there was 89 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: nothing marine ish about him. And then when he became 90 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: the Marine, and he became the world champion, and he 91 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: found a gimmick that would stick right, because he's not 92 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: any of those things. He's all of those things. And 93 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: it's about finding certain personality types that you think will 94 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: make an impact. And when he found the Marine character, 95 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: even when you booed him, he would take the booze 96 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: right the way a soldier would take it, the way 97 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: a soldier returning from Vietnam was was you know, yelled 98 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: at and people were throwing things that our soldiers coming home. 99 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: You know, you really try. You saw John really trying 100 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: to embody that character. And other guys could have taken it, 101 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: like Triple Edge could have worn that crown. But Triple 102 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: Edge didn't want to do segments in the first hour 103 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: of Raw when it was still family friendly. He wanted 104 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: to be in the last hour of SmackDown or raw 105 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: and do his d X adult stuff, the stuff that 106 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: got him over, the stuff that he always did once 107 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: he found the right character right, so he could have 108 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: taken the crown. Vince would have gladly given it to him, 109 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: but he chose not to. John took this on himself. 110 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: And you, I mean, you don't have to respect that. 111 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: But a guy like me is just programmed to respect 112 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 1: the hell out of that. So when I got there, 113 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: I already had respect for John. And the first time 114 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: I met him, he called me Ashton Kutcher. So you 115 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: have to understand, I'm going in there as positive as 116 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: as a human being could possibly be. Looking at this 117 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: guy like dang man, that's that's a thankless I'm not 118 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: saying this, but in my head, I'm like this, it's 119 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: a thankless job. He's getting booed for being the good 120 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: guy so much, and you know it bugs him, and 121 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: he's been public about it now and said that, yeah, 122 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: that that bothered him. Sometimes he learned to embrace it, 123 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: and when he did, they started cheering again, which is crazy, 124 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: um and a cool journey on itself. But uh, I 125 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: met him and he hated me, and it wasn't even 126 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: that he hated me. It was just like a total disregard. 127 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: I think he called me Ashton Kusher and uh, you know, great, 128 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: we got Ashton Kusher working here now. And I take 129 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: everything with it with a smile and uh and a chuckle. 130 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: And I I don't take myself seriously, but I take 131 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: what I do very seriously. And I was there to work. 132 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: And I've said this before, I don't mind earning it. 133 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: So I go, yeah, and I'm I'm I'll learn it now. 134 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: I never wrote anything for John because, like I said, 135 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: he didn't need it, and Brian Gowertz was his guy 136 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: the same way that he was the Rocks guy. And 137 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Brian knows what he's doing. And uh so I never 138 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: had to work with him. I worked with other talent 139 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: that he would be in segments with sometimes and sometimes 140 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: would write like a half of a segment. Believe it 141 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: or not, there would be two writers, each one writing 142 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: a different half of the segment. Don't ask me how 143 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: it works. Oh wait us in so maybe they saidn't 144 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: do that, but I, you know, dealt with him a lot. 145 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: And when we it got awkward when I started the 146 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: acting class, so we had I've told you the stories 147 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: before our numbers. When we first started, and this was 148 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: before the class was real popular. But a lot of 149 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: the younger talent, the f c W which is now 150 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: an XT talent that we're coming up, they were just 151 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: looking to brush up their their acting skills, and so 152 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: we started doing scenes from movies they liked. I said, 153 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: you you find any movie you want. I'm not gonna 154 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: make you do any of the crap work. You send 155 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: it to me. I'll transcribe it. I'll give it to 156 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: you a physical copy and an email so you always 157 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: have it. When you lose it, I will print you 158 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: up another one. All you have to do is the 159 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: scene work, breaking down the moments. Why is the character 160 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: saying this, what's the motivation, Let's look at the scene 161 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: on an overview, what's the obstacle and what's the goal? 162 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: What do you want and what's preventing you from getting there? 163 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: And once you start to analyze that, it's like practicing 164 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: a martial arts technique. You stop thinking about it and 165 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: you just start doing it. And that's when acting feels 166 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: more real, is when actors aren't searching for lines or 167 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: trying to remember blocking because they rehearsed and put in 168 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: the work, and that way your take one is actually 169 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: pretty damn good instead of it taking fourteen fifteen takes 170 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: because an actor was lazy. I get a little triggered 171 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: by lazy actors. If you can't tell this will turn 172 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: into a thirty minute podcast about people not knowing their ship. 173 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: Uh sorry. So anyway, I was working these scenes with 174 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: the talent and I think it was Writer and Hawkins, 175 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: and they were doing a scene from Bad Boys with 176 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: Will Smith and Martin Lawrence, which was making me laugh 177 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: before they even started, just to see these two guys 178 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: do it, and they actually did really well with the scene. 179 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: And in the middle of this class this scene, John 180 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: just swing has opened the door, grabs us a folding 181 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: chair that we were all sitting in, sets it down 182 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: in between Hawkins and Rider, and sits in it and 183 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: just looks at me like what are you gonna do? 184 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: And in my head, I'm just like, what the why 185 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: would you do? Why would you make this about you? Man? 186 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: Like why wouldn't you wait until after this? Like what 187 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: why would you interrupt this? And I get answers to 188 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: this in a moment, but I don't say anything. I 189 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: just go, hey, man, you want to talk to me outside? 190 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: And he stands up right away and he's mugus dude, 191 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: he's built like Ben Grimm from The Fantastic Four for 192 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 1: crying out loud. And we go outside. So I'm not 193 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: going to fight the dude. So we go outside and 194 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: I go, man, what the hell was that? And he goes, 195 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: that's what I was about to ask you. So he 196 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: has zero respect for whatever process I'm I'm attempting to 197 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: bring to the table, right And we kind of jaw 198 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: back and forth for a minute, and he and these 199 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: are his words, and he would he would admit to 200 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: all this. It is not a bad thing. Confrontation is good. 201 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: Conflict is good. That's how situations get resolved. When you 202 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: avoid it, it becomes passive aggressive, and then it carries 203 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: on and on and on, and it affects your work, 204 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: it affects their work, and then it affects the company's work, 205 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: and then everyone sucks a lot of passive aggression in Hollywood. 206 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: So so I'm of the opinion you should just confront 207 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: situations head on, and that's what we did. And he said, look, 208 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: maybe I'm a neanderthal his words, and he says, but 209 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: I just don't see how any of this ship works. 210 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at him, like in my head and 211 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: look and now look in hindsight, he's out here making movies. 212 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: So it's all it's a growing it's a growing experience, 213 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: learning experience for all of us in the end, whether 214 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: we recognize that or not. But I look at him 215 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: and I say, hey, man, not everybody can do you do? 216 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: All right? I'm not saying, hey, can I work with 217 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: John and can I give him acting lessons? When I 218 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: had my first meeting with Steph, I said, why the 219 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: hell weren't you Duke and g I Joe, You're the 220 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: best actor on the roster. I said, but I'm trying 221 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: to get them to a level where you're at or 222 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: close to it, because if I don't, who the hell 223 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: is And he kind of like shrugged his shoulders and 224 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: like excelled, and I said, hey man, it's not like 225 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: you're helping him out. And that kind of like tightened 226 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: up as humongous muscles, these massive shoulders that kind of 227 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: like tense stuff. And he goes, yeah or whatever, and 228 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: he walked away and I go back in and Cardona 229 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: was like, dude, I thought you guys were gonna fight, 230 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: Like bro, I'm not trying to fight the incredible hulk Man. 231 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: Shut up. So we finished the class, and uh, I didn't. 232 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: We have our taping of whatever show was that day, 233 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: Monday and Iraq as John was there, and uh he 234 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: was the face of the company and Monday and I 235 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: Raw was the show of the company back then. So 236 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm on the jet. We're flying back to White Plains, 237 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: New York from whatever city were in Cleveland or wherever 238 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: it was, and Vince has me hold out my hands. 239 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: He's got some hand sanitizer and he's he's you know, 240 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: you don't like germs, and so he starts to put 241 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: some hand sanitizer in my hand and then as a 242 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: rib won't stop, he just keeps squeezing it and squeezing it, 243 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: and he's just staring me down, and I'm staring him down. Right. 244 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: It's not like I can just let the crap fall 245 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: in his G four, G five, whatever it is, G something, 246 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: because that's disrespectful. But I'm not gonna wine or whimper 247 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: or tap out. So I just let him into the 248 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: bottle and I stand up and I slap it down 249 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: in the sink in the bathroom, wipe my hands. I 250 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: come back in and he's laughing. He thinks it's great. 251 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: And Kevin Dunn thinks it's the greatest joke that anyone's 252 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: ever pulled off in the history of jokes. And uh, 253 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: I sit down and Vince goes, so, I heard you 254 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: had a little, uh, a little problem with Sina today. 255 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, man, I try to downplay it. I go, no, 256 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: I think he's just testing me. Man, all you guys 257 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: like to test me. And he goes, I don't worry 258 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: about it. I'm the only one that can fire you anyway, 259 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: and Kevin laughs at that. He starts laughing at Vince's joke, like, man, 260 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: that wasn't even that good. And uh, but I I 261 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: learned in that moment, like, Yo, don't worry about it. 262 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Keep doing your thing. If they're giving you crap, I'm 263 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: the only one that you need to worry about giving 264 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: you crap. Right, you could take it from everyone else, 265 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: is how I took it to to me. So I 266 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: go in there and I'm just hopeful that he doesn't 267 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: interrupt the class again. And to his credit, he never did, 268 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: not even once, And as time went on, he called, 269 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: he still said, oh, what's up, Baston Crusher. I think 270 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: one time I used to wear this hat that my uncle, 271 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: he was a Vietnam veteran. Uh when he passed away, 272 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: I stole it from that from the house, and UH 273 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: I used to wear it a lot. Because my uncle 274 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: is real responsible for the man that I grew up 275 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: to become. I'm named for him. His name is James Barber, 276 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: and my middle name is James. My son's middle name 277 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: is James's. He's an important man in our in our 278 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: family's history. Side Quist a very important man, and he 279 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: demanded not only respect for himself, but he always demanded 280 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: the family show respect to one another. He was in 281 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: and out of our lives a lot because he had 282 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: a lot of problems coming back from from Vietnam. I 283 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: remember I used to have to crumple up newspaper and 284 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: toss it at him when he'd be napping on the 285 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: couch to wake him up for dinner. Because if you 286 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: went while I learn hard way, if you went and 287 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: shook him, you were on your back and his hand 288 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: was on your throat because in his head he was 289 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: still in the war. He had to do just look 290 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: up reconnaissance Marines Vietnam, and you'll know what he had 291 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: to do. We're not gonna make this depressing. So anyway, 292 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm wearing this hat and he goes, oh, nice doe 293 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: she had, and I hit him. I don't even look 294 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: at him when I say it. I go it was 295 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: my uncle's he was in Vietnam, and it just goes, oh, 296 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: like that right. They never talked about that ever again. 297 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: So there is respect there. It just has to be 298 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: something he deems worthy of respect or you gotta earn it. 299 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: So six months in I'm doing a segment and it 300 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: was with Santina Morella, Beth Phoenix and some and someone 301 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: else I can't I can't remember who else. And I'm 302 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: sitting next to Vince in Guerrilla and the segments going well, 303 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: because our Santino is the man Like anything you wrote 304 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: he would make better. I loved working with him when 305 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: he was on SmackDown. I got to work with him 306 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: all the time and we would just crack each other 307 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: up with jokes like on what the scene is gonna be? 308 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: Things he would say words he could butcher, and he 309 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: would just not get dead no matter, no matter what. 310 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: And he needed so little direction you could. If anything, 311 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: it was only to like tighten it up because he 312 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: could go on for thirty minutes and we only had two. 313 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: So it was a segment that was going really well. 314 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: Again all credit to the talent, especially in the case 315 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: of of of the Lion. It's going well, and Vince 316 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: gives me the elbow to the ribs, but not the 317 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 1: fu elbow. It's it's not like the Randy Macho may 318 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: have finished your elbow. It's like the revitalizing elbow when 319 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: he hit Hogan with it and woke Hogan up, which 320 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: was like horrible, should have never happened, but it happened. 321 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: He's given you the positive I'm like, hey, good job, kid, 322 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: God damn. And Cina is back there too, because he's 323 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: in the next segment. I think I'm even wearing my 324 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: uncle's hat and uh, he says, and again I'm my 325 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: eyes are on. The monitors were just backstage. They call 326 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: a guerrilla position. It's where they come out of the 327 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: curtain and walked to the ring for those of you 328 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: that don't really watch the brand. And so he's back 329 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: there waiting for his time and he goes, hey, man, 330 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: that was a that was a really good segment and 331 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: I didn't even look at him much, but yeah, whatever, 332 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: and just they liked it, and I phil Vince gotta 333 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: give me another nudge, which was either chill out or 334 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: well done. I don't know which one it was. We 335 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: didn't talk about it, and uh, that was the moment 336 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: where I was like, all right, he's I think I 337 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: think I earned his respect and I don't. But I 338 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, man, maybe not. Maybe he was 339 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: just like, well, I'm just done crapping on him because 340 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: the boss is right there. But either way, we never 341 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: had an issue or or a conflict ever again. After that, 342 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: he was always just would give me a nod. He 343 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: didn't talk about my uncle's hat. He called me Freddie 344 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: instead of Ashton. By the way, his last name I 345 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: think is Coucher, not cousher. And I don't know if 346 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: John knew that. But you know, you can't say a 347 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: man's name, right. I don't say John Cena. I say 348 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: John Cena. So anyway, I know people have had fun, 349 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: and I've told some of the Seni stories before. I 350 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: wanted to be clear. Even though he didn't like me 351 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: and I didn't like John, I respect John. I respected 352 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: him then I respect him now. I respect the irony 353 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: of what he what he's doing now because he hated it. 354 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: He hated Hollywood so much. But Hollywood doesn't show wrestling 355 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: the respect that I think wrestling deserves. So I think 356 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: if there's ever a company man, John Cena is the 357 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: ultimate company man, like he would do anything for the company. 358 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: He would take any bullet for Vince McMahon, because that's 359 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: his experience with the company has always been not I'm 360 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: not gonna say always been positive. Everyone has ups and downs, 361 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: but this company found him, developed him in o VW, 362 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: brought him up, made him the face of the company. 363 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: Not for a year, not for two years, not forever. Okay, 364 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: he was the champion forever, Himmer Randy, and he would 365 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: always win it back. So his love and respect for 366 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: that company is the way you would love school counselor 367 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: that saved your ass and and put your life on 368 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 1: the right track, or the way you look after your 369 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: parents as someone spoke against them. So that's where his 370 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: loyalty was in Hollywood has never been pro pro wrestling. 371 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: They're happy to pluck the most talented people and make 372 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: them a star, but they've always had their their kind 373 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: of crappy feelings for it. That'll switch us over to 374 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: a more positive relationship. I had, and that was with 375 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: Glenn Jacobs, who plays this hideous monster from hell named Kane. 376 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: And he was the Undertaker's brother, younger brother, thank you 377 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: very much. And he had insecurities throughout his career about 378 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: being the younger brother. He had conflict with his brother. 379 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: They had resolutions and wrestled together, and we're the most 380 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: powerful tag team in the universe. He had his own 381 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: singles title runs. He did horror type wrestling all the 382 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: way to comedy type wrestling when he tag teamed with 383 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: Brian Danielson who's in a w He's shown a large 384 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: range as far as what limited range the Kane character 385 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: allows you to have. He's even starred as the monster 386 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: in a monster movie. I can't remember the name off 387 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: the top of my head. You get this image of him, 388 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: and he is a a hideous beast behind a mask. 389 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: Why else would he wear a mask? It must be hideous, 390 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: he wears. When he took the mask off because he 391 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: was no longer hideous, he would put in crazy contacts 392 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: to make himself look more freaky. Freaky, and and and 393 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: and strike fear in the hearts of men. And then 394 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: you meet Glenn and you could call him Kane. He 395 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: responds to either one, and he's a he's like a poet. 396 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: I think he's immensum member even like he's this. The 397 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: dude reads Shakespeare. The guy gave me book recommend The 398 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: guy got me to read that Hawaiian The Rich Dad, 399 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: Poor Dad. He like, hey, man, this book meant a 400 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: lot to me. You should you should give it a read. 401 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: And I'm like, alright, cool. He gave me a book 402 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: about the Rothchild's system of banking, its influence on America, 403 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: and why should we should be wary up at his 404 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: way into bigcoin and why should we should be wary 405 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: of our paper currency that's barely backed on gold anymore. 406 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: He gave me this in two thousand seven, y'all. I 407 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: don't know the name of it, and I'll be honest 408 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: with you. I only read about the fourth of it. 409 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: And Bill Burr had a joke he said, reading puts 410 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: me to sleep. It I fell asleep a lot, but 411 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: I got through a quarter of it, and I did 412 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: learn that the Rothchilds were some evil sons of bitches, 413 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: and our banking system is corrupt as all hell. So 414 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: if you want to buy a gold I'm not mad 415 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: at you. If you want to buy a big one, 416 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: I get it. But this guy, first of all, I 417 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: never saw Vince more hands on with a promo than 418 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: his feelings for Kane. He has this weird case. I've 419 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: described Vince as as a as a kid with a 420 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: toy box, right, and they're all his toys and you 421 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: have to play with them the way he wants you 422 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: to play with them. But he's never more particular than 423 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: when he was with Kane. For real. He never yelled 424 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: at me louder and we would go back and forth 425 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: from time to time, but most of the time, dude 426 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: was really cool with my with my ideas are the 427 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: ones that got to him. Sometimes they die on the 428 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: vine before they even get there. They go, no, the 429 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: show is full. I remember I came in there and 430 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: I don't remember the promo. This is you know, however 431 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: many over ten years ago. But there was the word destroyed. 432 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: He reads the word destroyed, and he stopped and he 433 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: looks at me and he's like, piste off at me, 434 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: like I've done something not wrong but offensive. I go what? 435 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: And he shot? He goes Kane, what never say it destrong? Hey? 436 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: What say ah blaate? And there's this long pause. Right, 437 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: you gotta remember the way my brain works. I'm not 438 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: a reactionary dude, and I'm comfortable with silence, so I 439 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: don't mind it. So there's this long pause, and in 440 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, this isn't a fight that I'm 441 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: gonna fight. It's it's it's a word, but I kind 442 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: of want to know why it's it's so important to 443 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: the boss. And so I take a beat and I say, 444 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: you got it, obliterate? Are there any other words in 445 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: here that are going to get that kind of reaction? 446 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: And if so, can you tell me why? And he 447 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: just gives this grunt that he would give when he's 448 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: unamused by your amusement. Basically, he wanted he wanted me 449 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: to take a more serious I guess it was just 450 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: more like and he starts reading it through, reading it through, 451 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: and he goes the rest of it is fine, just 452 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: trying to make the end a little better, Like all right, 453 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: I go back and uh, there's a writer named Christopher 454 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: to Joseph who worked there, and he was always good 455 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: to me, not all the writers for kids. To me, 456 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: Chris was always cool man from Jump Street. And I 457 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: go in and he goes, how'd it going? Yeah, pretty good. 458 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: He wants me to rewrite the end. I said, he 459 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: really hates the word destroyed. And Chris goes, yeah, I 460 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: wanted to warn you about it, but I just thought 461 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: it'd be funny if I didn't. I what are you 462 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 1: talking about, man, he I said, I've never seen him 463 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: get angry. He goes, he's so crazy about kine and 464 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: the words that you use. When I was like, I'm 465 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: telling you broke it was. I've seen actors trip out right, 466 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: and I mean trip out where it's over a word, 467 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: over a line, and you're like, dog, just just tell 468 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: him you're saying something different, Like you don't need to 469 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: be this dramatic and make it a level ten need 470 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: in order to convince them like you're the lead of 471 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: the show, you're the four hunder pound gorilla to be like, yo, man, 472 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: need I need a different line. You don't even have 473 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: to say better. You can say it better if you 474 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: don't want to worry about their feelings. But you can 475 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: just say a man need a different line there, and 476 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: it has just as much weight and so it was 477 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: a rib on me. But I brought it to to 478 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: Glenn and he does his thing, and he does what 479 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: he does right, and here's the difference you'll see in 480 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: like some of the writers. So he kills it and 481 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: everyone goes, oh, great bromo, Freddy, great bromo. I'm like, man, 482 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: I didn't do anything like it. It's the same speech 483 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: he's made a hundred times. It's just you know, different 484 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: bourbons that's on that's on him. The next week they 485 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: gave the same storyline promo to someone else because I 486 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: was just trying to help out. They were busy and 487 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: worn down. On that week's episode, Kane does his thing 488 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: and kills it, and the writer in chargees like, hey, Freddy, 489 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: did you see my promo? Which thing? Man? I was like, 490 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: you feel like looking for a compliment. You didn't say nothing. 491 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: This dude said it. So there was a lot of 492 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: There was a lot of insecurity and ego in that room. 493 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just because I was there. I mean 494 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: that that's just a that's a personality trait that he 495 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: either exists or it doesn't, and you either grow out 496 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: of it or you don't write. And a lot of 497 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: these guys probably grew out of it, and a few 498 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: of them probably didn't. We're gonna end with Vince McMahon. 499 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: But to get there, the best perspective I ever got 500 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: on the man was from Chris Jericho, and Chris was 501 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: always really cool to me. He didn't have to be. 502 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: We didn't work together. There was no reason for us too. 503 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: He was high quality actor. Forget the fact that he's 504 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: one of the best wrestlers ever. Forget all that he 505 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: didn't need any help writing a promo. He didn't need 506 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 1: any help with direction on how to execute a promo. 507 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: So there was no reason for for he and I 508 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: to talk outside of me asking questions about, you know, 509 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: the history of wrestling, you know the matches he was 510 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: in promos that he had done, just so I could 511 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: gain information. Right, So I'm sitting and I'm talking to 512 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: him after a match, and uh, he was. I remember 513 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: his trunks they were like blue with like sparkles on him, 514 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: and he was. He was in a run with John 515 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: Cena that culminated in Boston, And this was the week 516 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: before that, and we were talking about Vince and this 517 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: idea that I had to to get one of the 518 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: smaller wrestlers over, which which was Kofi. And we'll get 519 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: into that storyline in another episode, which is the Kofe 520 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: Gauntlet match, which they took years later. In turn, didn't 521 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: do the Kofe Gotlin match that got him the World Championship. 522 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: The one we came up with was simply pitched for 523 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: him to win the Intercontinental Championship. So I was talking 524 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: to him and he said this one sentence that I'll 525 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: never forget. He said, Vince is his father's son. And 526 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: I said, what did that? What? What is that? What 527 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: does that mean? I knew nothing about Vince's dad outside 528 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: of the fact that Vince got the company from him, 529 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, years ago, and and and did like some 530 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: hard business, but business he felt that had to be 531 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: done right. And he goes. Vince's dad only liked the 532 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: big guys. He never he never pushed a small guy ever. 533 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: He just didn't. He didn't believe that a small guy 534 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: could be the big guy. He goes, and that's Vince's son. 535 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: He goes, and he believes that. He goes. I can 536 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: show him a million UFC tapes. I can show him, 537 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, a million instances where a smaller guy goes, 538 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: he has said. But outside of you know, a handful 539 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: of of choices that he's made over the years with 540 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: Ray and with Sean, things like that goes. He just doesn't. 541 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: He doesn't believe in the smaller guys. I said, yeah, man, 542 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: but you had all all the titles, he said, I 543 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: didn't have him for a long and I was sitting 544 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: there and it kind of it didn't hit me right away, 545 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: but on the plane going home, I never knew my 546 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: dad right, so I didn't connect with with what he 547 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: was saying at first. And then as I was going home, 548 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: and I was always trying to think of I was 549 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: always trying to figure Vince out. And there's no figuring 550 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: anyone out completely, but I was always trying to figure 551 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: out where his head was at and what would be 552 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: the best way for me to get my ideas over 553 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: to contemporize the business, so to speak, right, And I 554 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: feeled a lot, regrettably. I don't have an issue saying 555 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: it now it's ten years later, but it sucked. You know, 556 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: Failing in a segment is one thing. Failing in a pitch, 557 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, always hurts me more. Right, It's like 558 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: the infancy of an idea that you're rejecting as opposed 559 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: to the totality of it. I'm sitting on the plane 560 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: and I started thinking about the father figures that I had. 561 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: My uncle James, I call him jimmy uncle Jim, my godfather, 562 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: Bob Wall, my uncle Ron de Blasio, who was my 563 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: father's manager, Richard Pryor's manager. He was the one that 564 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: got me hip to the business real quick. He was 565 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: the one that taught me the phrase it's show business, 566 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: which words bigger. That phrase came from Ron de Blasio, 567 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: and he didn't get it from anyone else. He's just 568 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: been in the game. That was Prince's manager. Y'all, remember Prince. 569 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: Everybody knows Prince, yet that was his manager. The guy's 570 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: seen everything. Anytime I had questions about Hollywood, not the 571 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: side quest, but I always went to him before my 572 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: own agents are managers. Just because Ron's seen everything, He's 573 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: dealt with everyone, I could get a better sense of 574 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: how to enter a negotiation with Warner Brothers because they're 575 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: notoriously the most evil, disgusting negotiators in the world. You'll 576 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: be worth a million bucks, they'll offer you a hundred 577 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: grand and and act like you should be thankful. And 578 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: you gotta figure out the people to speak to, when 579 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: to speak to them, to walk away, to not even respond, 580 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: and how they'll react to that. And I always wanted 581 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: to be able to be three fourths. I told you, 582 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: I want to know how Vince thinks. I would want 583 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: to know how these studios would think and operate, and 584 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: so I would always talk to people who had who 585 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: had dealt with them before any time I had a 586 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: big negotiation, which is why I always got those bumps 587 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: before to the rest of the actors, and all you 588 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: other actors should thank me for helping raise your quotes 589 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: in the nineties. It's because you know it's not Reese 590 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: Witherspoon I think is credit for that one. I start 591 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: applying that to me, which helps me then apply my 592 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: philosophies to Vince and the w w E was making. 593 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: This leads us to our final story and to close. 594 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: They were making movies, and I'm not gonna say they 595 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: were good movies, but I can say that because I've 596 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: been in some dogs myself. Y'all aren't allowed to say that, 597 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: or you're just haters. Dylan is allowed to have opinions anymore, 598 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: so they weren't necessarily great, but they were making movies, 599 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: and they were making them for five million dollars a pop, 600 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: which limits the type of movie you can make, limits 601 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: how good it can look, limits the level of talent 602 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: you can get. Money helps make a good movie. Granted 603 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 1: you can pull it off without We've all seen some 604 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: great movies made for a million dollars or less considerably less, 605 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: but for the most part, money can help you get 606 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: the technology and the talent at the levels you want. 607 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: So five million back then got you what it got you. 608 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: And they weren't getting distribution. They were relying on the 609 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: Walmart DVD distribution deal that they had. They weren't even 610 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: attempting to go to theaters because they were making enough 611 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: money off the Walmart releases and Walmart had paid them 612 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: in advance because they kind of had a built in audience, right. 613 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: There was a writer on the creative team who was 614 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: a television writer and I'm not going to say his name, 615 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: but he was getting it wasn't clicking with what wrestlers 616 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: needed to say and the types of stories that wrestlers 617 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: could pull off, and the types of story whereas that 618 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: we could pull off as a company. While having to 619 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: have wrestling matches. Think about that philosophy, and that was 620 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: this guy's philosophy. You have these matches are really affecting 621 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: the story. It's like, nah, dog, you're supposed to service 622 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: the matches is a wrestling show. That's why Bruce every 623 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: week would be like, it's a lot of talk. It's 624 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: a lot of talk. And he was dead on, by 625 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: the way. So this guy asked Vince if he could 626 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: transition from the creative team to the film division because 627 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: he had experience in film. Now he had experience in television, 628 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: but not really experience in film. This gentleman. Now, I 629 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: respect the man's hustle, but this was a hustle just 630 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: the same. He started selling his own scripts under a 631 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: different name, a pen name what you're allowed to do 632 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: to the w w E, and then was producing his 633 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: own movie himself and paying himself to do it. And 634 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: I saw this right away, right right. I know a 635 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: Hollywood hustle when I see one. And Vince, like I said, 636 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: when you don't have a dad and people call you 637 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: a son, it has an effect on you as a 638 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: young man. I'm forty five. Now you can call me son. 639 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do anything you ask me to do. 640 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: I'm old and cranky, so I didn't. I felt like 641 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: there was advantage being taken of. I felt like he 642 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: should have just said, hey, I wrote this great script, 643 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: let's make it, and Vince would have said yeah. He 644 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: would have said yes, but I didn't like that there 645 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: was this subversive element to it. So we're on the 646 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: tarmac in White Plains, New York, which is the home 647 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: base of the w W E jet, and we're getting 648 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: ready to fly. I think to New Orleans, and everybody's 649 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: bags are out there, and I have my car. Is there. 650 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: I get out of the car. I'm on the phone 651 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: talking to the wife. I see Vince's limo pull up, 652 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: and that's usually means it's time to get your ass 653 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: on the plane. Let's go in and say waiting on 654 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: nobody and I go, hey, babe, the boss is here. 655 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,959 Speaker 1: I'm out. I love you about click the phone off. 656 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: I'll walk straight up to Vince. I go, hey, man, 657 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: before we get on the plane, I gotta tell you something. 658 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: I said, you guys are making these five million dollar movies. 659 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: This guy is selling you scripts that would not sell 660 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: in Hollywood. That I'm sure he's tried to sell a 661 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: dozen times and everyone passed on. And you're paying him 662 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: for something like that and then paying him to make 663 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: his own movie. I said, that's five movies a year 664 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: at five million dollars a piece, or maybe it was 665 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: four four movies a year at four at five million 666 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: dollars a piece. Vince, he looks me dead in the face. 667 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: He goes, Freddie, it's twenty million dollars. Get on the 668 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: fucking plane. And I literally my jaw must have hit 669 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: the girl. I looked at him and said, can I 670 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: have that job? And he started laughing, slapped me on 671 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: the back, and I got my ass on the plane 672 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: and we flew to wherever we flew toto a match 673 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: and the whole flat I'm sitting there like, that's a billionaire, 674 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: that's a bill, that's that's what a billionaires. I never 675 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: I knew Vince a little bit at that point, so 676 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: he was more comfortable to bullish ship and and and 677 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: chat a bit. But to hear someone say that the 678 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: way like if someone's like, hey, whatever your might, Hey Mike, 679 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: can I borrow some money? A normal amount of money? 680 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: You could lend somebody, what fifty bucks for me? If 681 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: a Boddy was like, Hey, I need some money. I 682 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: probably have a little bit more than I hook it up. 683 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: Hey man, I get five million dollars for a movie. 684 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: He couldn't we do that four more times? Oh yeah, 685 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: that's the million dollars cares the whole flight. That's all 686 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about. I'm sitting there like, he ain't even 687 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: this dude ain't even gonna get fired. It's probably knew 688 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: it was a hustle. He just doesn't care. He's got 689 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: the money from Walmart already, so it doesn't even matter 690 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: if the movie makes a dime, so screw it. And 691 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: it was just that I never I've never looked at 692 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: my finances that way, even if I was in a 693 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: position to, I don't. I don't think I could do that, 694 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: But who knows, maybe I would be the exact same way. Anyhow, 695 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: storytime is concluding. I hope you guys have fun. I 696 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: really am enjoying this podcast, and I'm really having a 697 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: lot of fun talking with you guys. I like when 698 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: y'all hit me up on on social media. I really 699 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed the conversations. Uh, you don't have to agree with 700 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: everything I say. If you have questions or or you 701 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: disagree with something, feel free to hit me up. Like 702 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: I said, I don't take things personally. If you're If 703 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: you're rude, I'll be rude back. If you're cool, then 704 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: I'll be cool. We can, we can disagree, and I can. 705 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: You might even change my mind on some crap. It's 706 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: been a while. We're gonna have Chris Jericho on, who 707 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: is has so much knowledge of the business on a 708 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: on a global scale, and for people that aren't even 709 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: wrestling fans, we're gonna talk about a lot of the 710 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: business of wrestling, the legit and some of the illegitimate stuff, 711 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get into it on a on a 712 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: deep level. And he's a really cool guy to speak 713 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: to on that, about how the Arenas make money, who 714 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: runs the Arenas Sometimes it's the mob. So there's there's 715 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: a lot of deep stuff that we can talk about 716 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: and have some fun with. So even if you're not 717 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: that into wrestling, you might be into some scandalous stories. 718 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: But for those of you who are, it's Chris Jericho. 719 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk wrestling outside of that. I love talking 720 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: to you guys. I'll see you guys again next week 721 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: right here. On wrestling with Freddy. This has been a 722 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: production of I heart Radio's Michael Tura podcast Network. 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