1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Hi there, It's Josh Clark, one half of Stuff you 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Should Know, and I'm here to present our episode on 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: the Electoral College, a convoluted, flawed system, one that's shown 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: its inherent problems in the last couple of decades. In fact, 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: the electoral college is frequently cited as the most undemocratic 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: aspect of our democracy. I hope our episode on it 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: gives you a good picture of it and hopefully charges 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: you up to vote, because our ability to vote is 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: not only a right, it's an imperative. So please vote 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: this November and anytime you have a chance to vote, 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: because that's how America moves forward. Welcome to Stuff You 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: Should Know, a production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, and you've put us together a couple of microphones, 15 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: some cameras. You get something called Stuff you Should Know cameras. 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah you're talking about. Oh yeah, there's nothing here. Everything's 17 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: very normal. Just proceed, Chuck. Yes, how you doing. I'm great. 18 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: How are you? Election time is nigh. I'm getting over 19 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: my cold. Yeah you sound good? Do I yeah, well 20 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: you sound better than he did that. Yeah, I'll give 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: you that, but I still I don't feel like I 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: found a hundred percent. But compared to the swimming and 23 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: snot phase, I will take this and it got really bad. 24 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: It's pretty snotty. I'm not going to go into it here, 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: but wow. Yeah, um okay, yes, election time is nigh. 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: I try to get right to it. Yeah, and I 27 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: blocked you, um so uh yeah, that's why I wanted 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: to do this one. Because people perennially perennially ask for 29 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: the electoral college, and other people say, I don't know 30 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: what that is, but I want to hear about that too, 31 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: and then people in other countries just say, you guys, 32 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: do what It's kind of depressing. Yeah. Actually, I'm meant 33 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: to look up to see what other countries did with 34 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: their elections. It's like kings and birthrights and stuff, but 35 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: it is no one else votes. Okay, that's that's just 36 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: the USA that does that. Um yeah, chuck, yes, um. 37 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't really have much of an intro here, all right. 38 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: It's more of a can you believe this kind of thing? 39 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: How long have you thought that you went to the 40 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: polls and cast a vote and the vote you were 41 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: casting was for the candidate that you were casting that 42 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: vote for. That that's who that vote went to every 43 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: time up until yesterday. So like you didn't have much 44 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: of an idea about the electoral call. Now I did, 45 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: but and I knew sort of how it worked, but 46 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: until you really get down to it, you don't realize that, Wow, 47 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm voting for a person that's going to vote for 48 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: a person. Yeah exactly, you know, yeah, because in some cases, 49 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: like it's not even on the ballot, like the person 50 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: who you're actually voting for. Okay, so we did what 51 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: I like to do. We confused everybody, and now we're 52 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: gonna go back and explain what we're talking about. Okay, 53 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah I was confused. Actually, uh, I'm gonna be a 54 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: shame shame myself. Right out of the gate when it 55 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: said every four years on the Tuesday following the first 56 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: Monday of November, I was like, why don't they just 57 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: call it the first Tuesday in November? But then I 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: realized that, I guess if November one is a Tuesday, 59 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: then it won't the election won't be to the following 60 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: Tuesday because they got to get the Monday in there. 61 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: It gets even crazier than that with the electoral college. 62 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: They go the first Monday following the second Wednesday in December. Yeah, 63 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: and everybody had like gout or something like that. Back 64 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: it's just passed out. Yeah, that's what it was. So 65 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: that is when the actual presidency is decided in December. 66 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: Although everyone knows well you would think, yeah, so okay, 67 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: so let's talk about this. So the electoral college the 68 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: whole thing, like, why don't we just stick to the 69 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: popular vote, which is what everybody thinks they're doing. Anyway, 70 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: where did this come from? I have an answer. Uh, 71 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: back in the day when our founding forefathers and mothers 72 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: were doing their thing here, they decided, you know, I 73 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: think I don't trust a regular popular vote. Uh, it's 74 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: reckless as described in this article. And then um, another 75 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: camp said, you know what, we sure as heck ain't 76 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: gonna let Congress decide the president. So why don't we 77 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: come up with a really confusing, wacky system called the 78 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: electoral college because it's like compromise. Do you want to 79 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: have a bunch of uninformed rabble rousers who just revolted 80 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: against the King of England a few years before voting, 81 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: or do you want a group of elites voting. It's 82 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: like citizens United. You don't want either of them. So yeah, 83 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: they just went and got confusing. Uh yeah, imagine it 84 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: was more confusing back then than it is today. Or 85 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: maybe not, maybe it made more senspect I think it 86 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: probably did. So Okay, So when they come up with 87 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: it was the compromise. Well, the compromise is when it 88 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: comes election time. Um, there are these people called electors 89 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: who actually decide the presidency and they represent. Um, it's 90 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: equal to to two U. S. Senators that every state has, 91 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: plus the number of representatives that each state has. Yeah, 92 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: so that comes to five thirty eight total. Yes, um, 93 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: and three of those are part of the twenty three 94 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: Amendment from nineteen sixty one that gave three electors to 95 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: d C. Yeah, they figured since everything is based here, 96 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: we might as well toss him a few votes. Seemed 97 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: like the right thing. Um. And did you say that 98 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: was the amendment? Okay? So, um, they actually cast the 99 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: vote when when we when we vote for the president, 100 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: we are voting for the electors. And like you said, 101 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: they're not always even on the ballot. Sometimes they are, 102 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: sometimes they're not. And like, I bet you anything. Nine 103 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: people who vote have no idea who their electors are 104 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: or like how they got to be in that position, right, 105 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: They're like, um, I'm going to vote for Barack Obama, 106 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: but who's this Todd Winemaker in parentheses thanks to him? 107 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: I have no idea who that is, or if in 108 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: some ballots they'll you'll go to the end and it's 109 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: like county commissioner, you dog catcher, and then electors and 110 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: then there's a list of people's names by party or 111 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: like you said, it's just not on there at all. Yeah, 112 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: And one thing I was surprised to learn was my 113 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: our own electors here in Georgia. I looked them up 114 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: just because I thought, you know, I might as well 115 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: know who they are, and their addresses are in there, 116 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: like I can go knock on the dude's door indicator 117 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: like eight blocks from me and say, you, sir, have 118 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: a great responsibility at your hands. Are you going to 119 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: do that? Okay? But I could you could? I think 120 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: maybe you should reconsider. I'm just surprised. I don't know. 121 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: I guess, well, we know where the president lives, so 122 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: that's not a big deal. But I guess I'll surprised 123 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: that all that stuff is common knowledge. I thought they 124 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: would be like secret. Yeah, I think they want that 125 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: to go the opposite way. Well, no, it makes sense 126 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: now that I figured it out, Like they do want 127 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: everything out in the open so everyone knows. But it 128 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: just seemed a little weird that the guy voting for 129 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: the president is actually like half a mile from my 130 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: house or one of the guys. I'm with you, all right. Um, 131 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: so you've got like this group of people who are 132 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: actually voted in, and um, they meet after the popular 133 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: election to certify. The secretary of each state certifies the vote. 134 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: The governor uh whips up a certificate saying here are 135 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: all the votes that age candidate got. And then um, 136 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: based on this, the electors go and cast their vote 137 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: the first Monday following the second Wednesday in December. That's right. 138 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't find why. Oh I don't know. I guess 139 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: it just falls somewhere in between the election and January. 140 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: And that's what everybody. It's like, wait, wait, wait, Christmas, Christmas. 141 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: We've got to make sure we're done in plenty of time. 142 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: And then um, they cast the vote and then it's unsealed, 143 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: right and read that's right. Even though, barring any surprises, 144 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: you pretty much know election night from either exit polls 145 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: or whatever you know, Dan rather tells you or whoever 146 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: does it these days, you would hope because that guy 147 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: who lives a few miles away from you or blocks 148 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: or miles, Um, I think I charted him out. I'm 149 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: stalking him. It was less than a mile, that's that's yeah. 150 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: Uh so that guy, um, you want his name, Yeah, 151 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: John White, that's his name. So John White, the elector, right, 152 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah, it's it's perfectly legal for him 153 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: to say, you know what, supposedly I am supposed to 154 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: be voting for Barack Obama. But I really like the 155 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: cut of this. Mitt Rodney's Jim. Yeah, that doesn't really happen, 156 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: though it has, but not quite like that. But in 157 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: the modern times, I think one of the reasons why 158 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: they published their addresses is so, you know, a good lynching. 159 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: It's throwing you out there like, hey, man, you can 160 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: vote however you want, but everybody knows where you live. 161 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: And if you think they get mad about, you know, 162 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: referees making bad calls, faithless elector that's what they're called, 163 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: which is a great band name. Do you think faithfles 164 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: selector or the faithless electors? No, I don't think so. 165 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: It's too um maybe for like a DC law school band. 166 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: Faithless electors I can see that saying almost girls, they 167 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: have no future whatsoever unless they turn it into something 168 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: like scorpions or something like that. Right, And actually, faithless 169 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: electors have no future as electors because one thing you 170 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: can probably be sure of if you change your vote, 171 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: then you're not going to be asked back to be 172 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: an elector in the future, and you could possibly be 173 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: fined depending on what states you're in. Yeah, and you're 174 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: probably going to be kicked out of your party. You're 175 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: putting a lot on the line. Yeah. And see this 176 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: is the thing that made it all clear to me. 177 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Each party has its own electors. So that's why no 178 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: one's gonna turn. Like. The people that are put in 179 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: the place as electors are like staunch party line people. 180 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: You know, they're not going to turn and vote Like. 181 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: The reason they're there is because they know that they're 182 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: going to vote for either the Republican or the Democrat. 183 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: They know where their bread is buttered exactly. Um. Okay, 184 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: so let's talk about these people. How are these people, 185 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: like to what do they have to qualify for it? 186 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: Obviously everyone has to have at least a juris doctor, 187 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: if not a PhD in law of some sort, like 188 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: a Juris doctorate UM, some sort of political science degree UM. 189 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: And probably UM they have to have like several hundred 190 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: hours of community service under their belt. Yes, that is 191 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: not true? Are you sure? And I set up? Though? 192 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: Thank you're being coy. Uh. There actually are no real 193 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: UM strict outlines per the constitution as to who these 194 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: people are. UM. They are usually nominated by a state 195 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: party committee UM, it says in here, usually as a 196 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: or sometimes to reward many years of service to the party. 197 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: So they could be like big on the campaign trail 198 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: for you, or activists maybe for your party, or like 199 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: a robo dialer. Yeah yeah, I guess so, like the 200 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: all time robo dialer. UM. But they cannot be UM 201 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: senators or representatives, and I would imagine former too, although 202 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: I didn't see that. I don't know. I think active 203 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: is what it is. UM. You can't be a high 204 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: ranking official in a position of trust or profit. Makes sense, 205 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: And this one I love that they actually had to 206 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: specify this UM he or she cannot be someone who 207 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: has engaged in insurrection or rebellion. Well, this is this 208 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: obviously by the people who are like, we can't just 209 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: leave it to a popular vote. These people are crazy. Yeah, 210 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: Like I saw a musket in that guy's hands last week, 211 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: aimed at my office, and now he's an elector he 212 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: can't vote that It is still in there though. Um. Yeah, 213 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: that insurrection rebellion thing definitely helped form this country. Okay. 214 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: So um, you've got people who are active in their 215 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: in their party, who are who have been rewarded. Um, 216 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: maybe they're activists, um manytimes, they know the president or 217 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: a president elect right like they met him on the 218 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: campaign trail. Um. And that's really about it. Each state 219 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: has i think probably a different um nominating process. But overall, 220 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: when you are when you have a candidate who's running 221 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: from Green Party, Democrat, Republican, you take your as your party, 222 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: as your Green Party, you all go down together and 223 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: you pile into like the the camper and go down 224 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: and exactly and you're all very depressed because you don't 225 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: have a shot at winning. You know, Roseanne's running for 226 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: president for the Green Party, really yeah, and she's being 227 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: roasted right now, I don't think that that's not a 228 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: media play, right. Um, So they all go down to 229 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: the Secretary of State's office and say, hey, these are 230 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: our candidates. There are electors for candidates for electors. So 231 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: when you vote for Roseanne, um, it should have all 232 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: those people's names next to hers or on on, like 233 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: by party. It might say, like Green Party electors, here's 234 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: all the people, or it might not say anything. But um, 235 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: when you cast that vote for Roseanne, you are voting 236 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: those electors. That's who you're voting for. That's who the 237 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: vote goes to, Not Roseanne, right, it goes to John Goodman. 238 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: I would be That's who I would have as my 239 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: elector if I was Roseanne. What about Tom Arnold? Now 240 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: Arnold that a messy divorce, he'd be the party press though. Well, 241 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: John Goodman was never married to there's just TV TV 242 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: marriage though. That's like Sacer sanct It's just my opinion. 243 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: All right. Well, now we're on the road, driving in 244 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: your truck. Want to learn a thing or two from 245 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: Josh can chuck stuff you should know? All right? All right, 246 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: so where are we We're talking about how the vote 247 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: goes towards not rose An where you wanted it to go, 248 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: not Tom Tom Arnold or John Goodman, but to uh 249 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: Todd Winemaker and all the other electors. Right, So, what's 250 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: what's going on here? What's this process? Well, I mean 251 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: they they literally just make their vote um, supposedly in 252 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: accordance with the people's popular vote. And I think, what 253 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: do they give it to? The secret secretary of state? Right? 254 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: That's that's who's like, it's registered before election day? Right, 255 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: your names on the list? It's yes, So at the 256 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: very least, if it's not printed on the ballot, the 257 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: secretary of state knows who the electors are. And there's 258 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: two ways to do it. Forty eight states have a 259 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: winner take all system and then Maine in Nebraska have 260 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: a district system. I'm just confused by that one. Okay, 261 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: so the district system actually more closely follows the electoral 262 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: college system than the winner take all. Now is this 263 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: to to vote for the elector only? No, that's what 264 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: confused me. I think. So let's say you have let's 265 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: do the winner take all system, which is so easy, 266 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: but think about it. So let's say you are in Arizona. 267 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: All right, Oh, it's hot, right, and you're you decided 268 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: to stay, you're not moving. Um, that wouldn't happen. You've 269 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: got like you have ten. There's ten, well in two 270 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: thousand eight, and I believe it's the same in two 271 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve. There's ten electoral votes. Right, Um, So 272 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: the Green Party candidate Roseanne should have ten electors associated 273 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: with her, right, Um, the Barack Obama should have ten electors. 274 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: Uh Mitt Romney should have ten electors. So when when 275 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: that person wins the popular vote and that's certified, then 276 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: those electors are the ones, those ten associated with that 277 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: candidate are the one that should go down to the 278 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: state capitol on the first Monday after the second Wednesday 279 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: of December and cast their vote. Okay, I get that. 280 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: And also we should point out that in this system, 281 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: that is the reason why sometimes the name isn't even 282 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: on the ballot, because there's something something somewhere in their 283 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: state constitution that says a vote for Barack Obama is 284 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: a vote for these ten people. You don't need to 285 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: know who they are, just trust us, right exactly. Okay, 286 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: that's the that's the winner take all system. Right. The 287 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: other system in Maine, in Nebraska is a district system. 288 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: So the winner take all system, that's a lot like 289 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: a popular vote. UM. In the district system, you get 290 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: h two votes the the guy who won, the guy 291 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: or the lady or the gender gender neutral president, depending 292 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: on when you listen to this episode. Um uh. They 293 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: whoever got the most popular votes in the state gets 294 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: two electoral votes, the two associated with the Senate right 295 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: then UM, the other electoral votes that are divvied up 296 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: by congressional district. Whoever one that congressional district gets that vote. Yeah, 297 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: I get that, And I looked. I looked it up 298 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: a little further and saw that there are scenarios in Maine, 299 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: in Nebraska where you could have three different UM votes 300 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: cast for three different candidates. But they said it's never happened. 301 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: It's just theoretically possible, mathematically statistically possible, all three. I 302 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: don't know. It just seems like everyone should just be 303 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: all on the same system. But but it makes sense 304 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: if you're but think about it, like, the whole reason 305 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: you have the electoral College, or one of the big reasons, 306 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: is to prevent um one region or one one part 307 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: of the state from wielding enough power to vote for 308 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: everybody else. And I think that's what the district system 309 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: is is set up to prevent too. It's kind of like, 310 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: hey man, you had let's let you you voted for this, this, 311 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: this person, um, and we want you to have your 312 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: say in the electoral college. I think it's smarter. Oh yeah, 313 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: I think so well than I do too. You swaye 314 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: me good? John White. I've got his number. You know, 315 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: he could use this his evidence one day for what 316 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't want. What's gonna happen? What are you gonna do? 317 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm but if something happened, then everyone would point their 318 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: fingers at me. Yeah, it's like we heard him say 319 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: it so on his podcast. All right, I won't testify 320 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: against you, though I appreciate it. Um. Should we talk 321 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: about some of the hinky results over the years when 322 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: things don't go quite as planned or exactly as planned? 323 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: Very true, that's a teaser. Um. There have been four 324 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: presidents um potass what they call him, four potuses podai 325 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: that have one UM there their post with without the 326 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: popular vote. Yeah. I mean that's happened four times in 327 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: this country, and all the ones up until two thousand, 328 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: we probably weren't his concern with because You're like, who cares. 329 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: They're all old timing. They're all old time they were 330 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: just working it out. Back in four when John adams 331 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: Son John Quincy the Q the Q he received thirty 332 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: eight thousand fewer votes than Andrew Jackson. Um. This one 333 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: was was definitely hinky because neither one of them won 334 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: electoral college. So if that happens, you defer to what 335 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: the twelfth Amendment, and that's when the House of Representatives 336 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: decides who the president is, which would be really weird 337 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: these days. Yeah, don't think. I think there'd be a 338 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: lot of that just be bad news. But at the 339 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: same time, this is four and there were still a 340 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: lot of insurrecting, rebellious people, so I'm sure it was 341 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: a little nervous back then. Um so who won j 342 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: Q Q Yeah, Um eighteen seventy six, brother for b. Hayes. Um. 343 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: He apparently this is the first time, and I think 344 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: the only time that small states actually swung the election. 345 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: Hayes carried a bunch of small states UM and basically 346 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: combined their with their combined electoral votes gave him the 347 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: electoral vote. UM. Although he lost the popular vote by 348 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: a lot, by like a hundred and nine thousand, No, 349 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: two hundred sixty four thousand votes. He lost the popular vote. Yeah, 350 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: we almost had a president. Samuel Tilden, Sammy Tilden, the Haymaker, 351 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: it was his nickname. Really, I feel bad for the 352 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: hay Maker of Sudden Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean everybody 353 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: liked him a lot more. But he's cobbled together a 354 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: win from small states, and Colorado had just been let in. 355 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: This is the Hinky part Um and they didn't have 356 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: any popular vote, there was no vote whatsoever. They just 357 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: did some electoral voting and it went all to hay 358 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: So he put it together with Colorado, so with very 359 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: little popular vote, and then in one state no popular 360 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: vote isn't and he won and he went on to 361 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: be the greatest president of this country's ever seen. I 362 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: mean Colorado, I guess they were just like, we don't 363 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: even have pens and pencils. Can you give us, like, 364 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: just can get the bufflers. We're just like we're all 365 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: boxes over here. We haven't even started unpacking. So they said, oh, well, 366 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: let's just give it to let's just give it to Haze. 367 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah good, Yeah, who you got next? Benjie Harrison lost 368 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: the popular vote by more than ninety five thousand votes 369 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: to Grover Cleveland won the electoral vote by sixty five 370 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: And this is one of the cases where they say 371 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: it worked exactly like the plan. Uh, like we planned 372 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: it to with electoral college, because you can't just overwhelm 373 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: someone in one region and and get the presidency. That's 374 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: what happened. And so in six states in the South, 375 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: so they the whole campaign pretty much was based on 376 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: we want the tariff. We don't want the tariff. Well, 377 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: the North that everybody else wanted the tariff, South didn't 378 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: want the tariff. Um, so Grover Cleveland was like, no 379 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: tariff whatsoever, and the South voted as a block. They 380 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: had a bunch of people. He won the popular vote 381 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: by like huge number, but in the other thirty two 382 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: states he lost by four twenty five thousand votes. No, no no, no, 383 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: he lost by three hundred thousand. He had so thirty 384 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: two states were against him combined, six states were four him, 385 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: and the electoral college steps in and prevents the South 386 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: from picking the president for the rest of the country. Right, 387 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: flawless and then not flawless. Let's go to the year 388 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: two thousand. Yeah, yeah, I was um driving across country 389 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: moving to Los Angeles during this election, and I made 390 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: a self made video of my journey, which most of 391 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: which was me singing along to songs on the radio 392 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: in my U haul. And I've still got this. I 393 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: should like get it digitized and posted at some point. 394 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: It's pretty funny. But um, I remember very specifically one 395 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: part in the in the thing, I woke up in 396 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: New Mexico and i'm you can tell him I'm sleepy, 397 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: and you don't remember going to sleep. I remember going 398 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: to sleep, but I woke up and I said, yeah, 399 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: you know here I am in New Mexico. It's weird. 400 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: I woke up this morning and they don't know who 401 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: the president is. And it's like captured in time, this 402 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: moment where I realized was sleep in my eyes, Like 403 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: that's weird. I went to bed expecting because you know, 404 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: that night everybody was going towards Gore. Well, every I 405 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: think it was called a couple of different ways, a 406 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: couple of different times. It went back and forth, but 407 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: when everybody went to bed, it was like Gore all 408 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: the way, like he'd won the popular vote. They knew 409 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: it was close, but everybody had called Gore and and 410 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: then they woke up and they're like wait a second. 411 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: And then a huge, huge mess cluster ensued afterward, which 412 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: involved the court system. It involved um hanging Chad's Well. 413 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: Not only that, you remember like there was this one 414 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: county where like their votes just got lost for a 415 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: little while on the way to be counted. They were 416 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: just vanished, um, and then reappeared later on. Like that 417 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. You should just basically be like, no, 418 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: the whole state, everybody has to wait, the whole state 419 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: has to start over and vote again. Yeah, that might 420 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: have been a good mood. They were like accusations of 421 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: disenfranchisement among black voters, black in black areas. Yeah, there 422 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: were also, I mean both sides had a lot of 423 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: arguments like when you really start peeling back the layers 424 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: and researching this, like it will make you right, and 425 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: they're just like dozens and dozens of um factors that 426 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: many people never even saw in the nightly news, you know, 427 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: like military votes, are disenfranchised voters in poor counties. And 428 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: then I think Gore asked for a recount and only 429 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: four counties when people are saying no, he should have 430 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: asked for a hand recount in all the counties and 431 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: in the end, Potas was decided for the country by 432 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: less than, like, less than four hundred votes. Is that 433 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: when it came down to well, I mean it depends 434 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: because all the different factors, like do we count these votes? 435 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: What about these these people meant to vote for Gore 436 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: or Bush and it was cloudy, and what about these 437 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: hanging chads? So there's all different kinds of numbers. But 438 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: I've seen one. I've seen one um that said it 439 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: was less than a hundred votes, it was the deciding factor. 440 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: So okay, so it came down to a hundred votes, 441 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: but Florida's winner take all. Yeah, so that means that 442 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: those hundred votes since Bush got those hundred votes, he 443 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: got all twenty five votes in the electoral college for Florida, 444 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: which just so happened to put him at exactly the 445 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: amount of electoral votes he needed to win the presidency, 446 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: which was to seventy one. It's crazy. I mean, I've 447 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: seen I've looked as many uh people have since then. 448 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: It like the independent studies they did afterward, and it 449 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: just depends on which ones you want to read. Like 450 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: I saw today, I saw like ten independent studies, and 451 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: six of them showed that Gore was the definite winner. 452 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: Four of them showed that Bush was. So it's just 453 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: confusing and disheartening. But what it did was shed light 454 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: on ah a pretty flawed system, um, and how we 455 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: cast our votes, how they're counted, um. And it gave 456 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: us the hanging Chad. I guess the hanging Chad joke. Well, 457 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: now we're on the road, driving in your truck. Want 458 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: to learn a thing or two from Josh can Chuck's stuff? 459 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: You should know? All right, m um? So uh, there 460 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: was also a bit of awkwardness that came out of that, um, 461 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: just a bit. Well in in one instance, there was 462 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: a kind of an overlooked bit of awkwardness. The when 463 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: the votes are the electoral votes are unsealed, they're unsealed 464 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: by the President of the Senate. President of the Senate 465 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: is the vice president. So in two thousand, the two 466 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: thousand election, remember Al Gore was vice president. He was 467 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: president of the Senate, so he had to read his 468 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: own defeated electoral college votes. Yeah. Yeah, And there was 469 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: like something of an insurrection and a rebellion among black 470 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: congressional members who were protesting the vote and protesting, including 471 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: Florida's vote in the count and uh, he had to 472 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: basically be like it's over, it's done. For good of 473 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: the country, let's move on. But he he there was 474 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: like no emotion, even the emotion you just had. It 475 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: wasn't that there was less than that for the good 476 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: of the country. Let's move on. You know, Gore always 477 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: got tagged as the robot, the robotron. But there was 478 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: a video I might have talked about it before that 479 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: Spike Jones made of Gore that never was released, a 480 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: campaign video that I think would have won him the election. 481 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: He had like his tie lusened no man. He he 482 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: was like way funnier and cooler than you would think 483 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: he was on thirty Rock. He did a good job 484 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: on Yeah, but that was later. But this was before 485 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: when he had the like the bad rap is like 486 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: a robot. But this like he led him inside his 487 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: home and it was just very casual, very laid back, 488 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: and you're like you saw him as a dude for 489 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: the first time, like cracking jokes and hanging out with 490 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: his family, and it was like very endearing and he 491 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: and he was like, do not release this, Yeah, I'm 492 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: sure and he lost the election. Did you ever see 493 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: that Simpsons where Lisa buys al Gore's one of his books, 494 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: and like the information is transmitted and somebody runs into 495 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: the to the I don't know what. The vice president's 496 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: office is called the Trapezoid office, and it's like, Mr 497 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: Vice President, someone just bought your book. And he goes, well, 498 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: this calls for a celebration, and he turns out. He 499 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: turns on the record player and puts on uh cool, 500 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: and the gang celebrate and it's like celebrate good times, 501 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: come on, and he goes, I will it's perfect. They 502 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: nailed him. Oh poor guy. Yeah, so that's Gore. Yeah, 503 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: that's Gore. So I guess on both sides of the 504 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: coin here, Um, we have people thinking this is a 505 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: great thing still and people saying this is not a 506 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: great Yeah. For each instance, even the one we were 507 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: saying like the electoral college worked perfectly, there are people 508 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: who are like, no, it's all messed up, Like he 509 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: clearly won the popular vote. However you want to put 510 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: it yeah, like uh, and and other people to say like, 511 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: calm down, let's all just calm down. Well, one of 512 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: the knocks against it is some say it discourages voter turnout. Um, 513 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: because unless you're in a swing state or a battleground state, 514 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: it's quote unquote predecided. Yeah. But then again, so does 515 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: like the two party system. We were in like a 516 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: very very red state. So we can say if we 517 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, word of not vote red. Um, we like, 518 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: we could make a case that our votes would be 519 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: thrown away. Um and that could dissuade voters from turning 520 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: out too. And the people for it say, no, this 521 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: is exactly what we need, because it's a wade system. Um. 522 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: The states that have the most the states that should 523 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: have the most influences are the states that are the 524 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,239 Speaker 1: most populated. Well that's how it's how it's divided up. 525 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: Like Alas is great. We love all that land, but 526 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: land shouldn't be deciding who the president is, you know, 527 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: yeah right, yeah, okay, No, I'm with you. It's people. 528 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: It's people that counts, not mountains. People not mountains, People 529 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: not mountains. What do we want time travel? When do 530 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: we want it? It's irrelevant, alright, I like that side. 531 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's just some random guy have 532 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: posted on the Facebook page. Everyone thought it was me though, 533 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: I guess because the facial here. Yeah, it's like there's 534 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: more than me. I see mustaches out there. Yeah, I 535 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: mean they're all over the place. Um So, over the 536 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: past two hundred years, over seven hundred proposals have been 537 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: introduced to reform or eliminate this process. Yep, the most 538 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: proposals for any constitutional amendment. I could see that. Yeah, 539 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: I can see that, and I think it's probably because um, 540 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: executive executive orders aren't in the Constitution and therefore can't 541 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: be repealed. Maybe. UM, I know that attorneys by and 542 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: large are against it. The American Bar Association polled at 543 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: sum in favor of abolishing it, whereas political scientists have 544 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: generally supported it. And then there I could find three 545 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: popular polls opinion polls over the years. UM in nineteen 546 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: sixty seven percent of Americans said they don't like it. 547 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: In ninety late sixties, theaters just like, what is it? Government? 548 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't want it? And then that UM in nineteen 549 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: eight one that declined to But by and large the 550 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: people are saying, or at least up until night one, 551 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: like we don't like this process. Don't make us insurrect. 552 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: Whoever has the most most votes should win, is what 553 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: many Americans believe. Did we talk about the two elections 554 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: that were decided by the House of Representatives because there 555 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: were ties in the electoral Well, we talked about the one, 556 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: which we mentioned the other. Oh yeah, yeah, but Burr 557 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: and Um Adams or Jefferson one, right, yeah, Um, there 558 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: was a tie in the electoral college and it took 559 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: thirty one votes in the House of Representatives to decide 560 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: who was the president and it turn know to be 561 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson. And then Aaron Burr was shot. That's right. 562 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: That's the sad end of that story. Aaron Burr shot 563 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: Alexander Hamilton's that's right, And that's the sad end too. 564 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: Electoral college. Yeah, get out and vote people, That's all 565 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: we have to say. Even if you if you live 566 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: in California and you're in a Democrat and you think, hey, 567 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna lock up this fifty votes, even if I 568 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: sleep in and go see my medical marijuana doctor, get 569 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: out and vote anyway. Yeah. Or if you're in a 570 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: state like Georgia and you're a Republican and you think, hey, 571 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna carry this, you get out and vote too. 572 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: It's pretty much the uh, the Fable of the rabbit 573 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: and the hair that you're talking about. Who's the hair? 574 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: I guess the hair is the person who visits their 575 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: medical marijuana doctor and oversleeps rather than um voting that day. 576 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: And how do you oversleep? You mean like sleep until Wednesday, 577 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: like not get up on Tuesday. That's happened. Have you 578 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: heard about Ohio, Well, well that's a swing state. Yeah, 579 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: but have you heard what's going on there? Uh no, dude. 580 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: The Secretary of State, a Republican, has decreed that there 581 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: that counties that are typically blue generally blue blue counties 582 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 1: are not going to have weekend voting, and their early 583 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: voting hours are going to be short compared to read 584 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 1: counties that are going to have weekend voting and longer 585 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: um early voting hours. And like there's no explanation for 586 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: this whatsoever. See that's my problem is, like I know 587 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: you probably can't do a nationwide everything is the same, 588 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: but within the state, every district should have the exact 589 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: same procedure, the same machines, the same like all of 590 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: that should be the same. I can't believe there's districts 591 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: that have like here you do a punch card and 592 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: here you've scribble it in with the number two pencil. 593 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: And here you just say it quietly into a booth 594 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: and there's someone on the other side. Are you blow 595 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: out a candle? One of two candles? Yeah, that's another sentence. 596 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: It's pretty messed up, though. I think at the very 597 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: least we should be allowed to tar and feather elected 598 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: officials who decides stuff like that. Anybody who's responsible for 599 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: voter disenfranchisement, tard and feathered. I guess that's it. Uh, 600 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: and that makes you an insurrectionist. Yeah, all right, I 601 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: always knew what it was. Uh. Okay, Well, if you 602 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: want to know more about this weird process we have 603 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: in the United States called the electoral College, you can 604 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: type those words into the search bar how stuff Works 605 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: dot Com. It'll bring up a handy and out of 606 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: date um graph of how the votes were distributed in 607 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: two thousand eight? Is it out of date? Two eight 608 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: was four years ago? Yeah, but didn't it still the same? 609 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: Well then it's a snapshot of a moment in time. 610 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: Know what it is? Anyway, it's still a good article. 611 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: Electoral College handy search bar how stuff Works dot Com. 612 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:04,479 Speaker 1: And now it's time for listening. I'm gonna call this 613 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: um an Englishman, the Englishman who went up a hill 614 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: and came down to mole, came down a mole. Dear Chuck, 615 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: Josh and Jerry and then print zs he actually he 616 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 1: says a small high. The guest producer Matt oh Nice, 617 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: A small high nothing, not a full. Hello. My name 618 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: is Jack Mead and I'm an avid fan from England. 619 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: Just started listening in October, just started in and tonight 620 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: I've just finished the four d and fifty second podcast. 621 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: I wish we had the the sound maker um the 622 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: hey Maker from Grassoline with Josh and Chris Palette print Disease, 623 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: Terrible preach up day uh to the most recent Shark 624 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: Attack episodes. It's been a wild and exciting ride. You 625 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: guys will come a long way. I just listened to 626 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: the first one to see the difference, and not only 627 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: is it missing the sweet dulphip tones of Charles W. Bryant, 628 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: but Josh's voice sounds very weird. Yeah, and it's kind 629 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: of like we're recording in a can. And I was 630 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: really aggressive, Oh yeah, yeah, like, hey, what do you think? 631 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: Huh uh? I can't even listen to him. Yeah, you 632 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: poked me once. Once yea. Um, anyway, I just want 633 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: you guys to know your podcast has become a huge 634 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: part of my life. Catching up with him has left 635 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: me both the sense of achievement but also great sadness. See. 636 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: I listened to the podcast pretty much any time when 637 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm not engaging with other human beings. Um, I've listened 638 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: over nine days worth of your voices in the space 639 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: to ten months. I probably heard you too, speaking more 640 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: than my own fiance's voice. I was thinking, Man, what 641 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: a lovely guy, but he's engaged. Yeah, like, dude, you 642 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: should prioritize here. That's pause. Going from that amount of 643 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: awesomeness to just two episodes a week is making me 644 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: feel confused and frightened. It's okay, Jack, you know it's strange. 645 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: It's like this is a pretty frequent report we hear. Yeah, 646 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: it's like a condition. Well, I like, bulk up, you 647 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: bulk listen. Then all of a sudden you have to 648 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: wait like every buddy else. Like I just did the 649 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: Firefly marathon. Yeah, that's goodn't think how I feel. You 650 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: watch fourteen episodes of that than the movie, and then 651 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: you're cut off after four days. There's not another one 652 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: coming every week, so I'm just like looking at the 653 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: walls now wondering where Captain type pants is that. Yeah, 654 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm like sad, I've been trying to figure it out. 655 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: Everyone else I've talked to me be like, oh, yeah, 656 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: I'm more than Firefly years ago like everyone else, but 657 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: we know you're paying anyway, I'll be on my bunk. 658 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: We don't have a punk. I would like to think 659 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: that I'm your biggest fan in England, but I guess 660 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 1: that is statistically improbable. Very much. Enjoy Chuck's terrible attempt 661 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: at an English accent and your attempts at pronouncing our 662 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: place names. Um. I've been wanting to email you guys 663 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: since I got into the podcast, but I want to 664 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 1: catch up first. I think what you do is truly amazing, 665 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: and genuinely enjoy life more with your podcast as a 666 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 1: soundtrack a crazy I know you guys must get hundreds 667 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: of emails a day. Uh that's not true, so don't 668 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: expect to reply, But I'm just glad to know that 669 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: you will read this. I look forward to day that 670 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: I can contribute information and maybe given even get on 671 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 1: listener mail. So if I may make a quick suggestion 672 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: I would love the special podcast hosted by Emily and 673 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: you me. I have no idea how to spell your 674 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 1: wives names? But he actually nailed it? Did he really? Yeah? Wow? 675 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: And um really yeah? Look at that? Wow? And then uh, 676 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: he wants to hear a podcast how Chuck and Josh 677 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: work from our wives? He said, it's a long shot, 678 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: but you never know, and it's a pretty long We 679 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: call that the longest of shots, but a fun idea. Nevertheless, 680 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: it is a good idea. Emily be like, get your 681 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: beat button ready, let me tell you a thing or two? Yeah, exactly. Um, well, 682 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: who is that? Probably good? Jack Mead? Thanks Jack ned Wow, 683 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: it's a pretty awesome British name, isn't it? Agreed, Jack 684 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: Mead to make me want to put on boxing gloves 685 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: and drink mead? Um. Yeah. So if you are a 686 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: fan who is going through why should we all this condition? 687 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I had withdrawal withdrawal? Yeah, I guess that. 688 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: Let me know what it is. Yeah, if you're going 689 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: through stuff, you should know addiction withdrawal and you need help. 690 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: We will look into forming some sort of support group 691 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: for you. Let's do that, agreed. Uh. Any ideas on 692 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: how to create such a support group, especially one that 693 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: would have to be international and global and instantaneous. We're 694 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: open to that, so we need to hear from you 695 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: via Twitter at s y s K podcasts, Facebook dot com, 696 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: slash Stuff you Should Know, or you can send us 697 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: an email to stuff podcast at how stuff works dot com. 698 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know is a production of iHeart Radios. 699 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: How Stuff Works. 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