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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 2: Number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 2: you hanging out with us as we roll through the

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Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of the program. I would bet might venture

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Speaker 2: to say that there are some of you out there

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Speaker 2: a little bit hungover, maybe filling the effects of a

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Speaker 2: night of celebratory Halloween revelry. What's crazy is we are now,

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Speaker 2: and we've talked about this from a political perspective, twenty

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Speaker 2: three days, I believe, twenty two days away from a

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Speaker 2: very early Thanksgiving November twenty third. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: different storylines that still have to play out between now

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving and on into Christmas. You will be hearing the

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Speaker 2: Mariah Carey all I Want for Christmas song everywhere. When

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Speaker 2: do we go ahead and make the switch to full

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Speaker 2: time Christmas music on this program? Is it December first?

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Speaker 2: I think I believe it is December first where everything

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Speaker 2: becomes Christmas related. Second week? Okay, we used it for

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Speaker 2: sports talk radio. Have to go to all Christmas music

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Speaker 2: on December first, because still in this day and age,

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Speaker 2: people are so obsessed with Christmas music, that it becomes

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Speaker 2: the number one rated format of radio for all of December,

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Speaker 2: just crushes everybody else. So that is not very far away.

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Speaker 2: But Buck, I wanted to hit you with something that

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Speaker 2: is not necessarily top of mind, but I think could

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Speaker 2: be really, really significant if this Israel and Hamas issue

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Speaker 2: continues into twenty twenty four, and that is the toss

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Speaker 2: up state of Michigan. Michigan I believe, according to the

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Speaker 2: Tallly was won by about one hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 2: votes if I am not mistaken in the in the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty election, and before that, Trump won what by

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Speaker 2: like fifteen thousand votes in twenty sixteen. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: was a tiny pinprick that he won that state flipped

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Speaker 2: back to Biden. I don't know how many people are

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Speaker 2: aware of this, certainly all of you listening out in

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Speaker 2: Michigan are. I would not have been if my wife

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Speaker 2: were not from Michigan and I had not spent a

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Speaker 2: lot of time up there.

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Speaker 1: There's a huge Arab population in Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Well, the dear Muslim Muslim population were being in particular

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Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands, yeah, yes, and around the number is

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty thousand voters of Muslim descent voted

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Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty election in the state of Michigan.

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Speaker 1: You might be saying, okay, well, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: That's actually the margin of victory for Biden, and they

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Speaker 2: overwhelmingly broke for Biden. There right now is a poll

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Speaker 2: out saying that that voter group, that Arab voter group,

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Speaker 2: has around a seventeen percent approval rating for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: So I just want to lay out a scenario here

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Speaker 2: for all of you to be thinking about as we

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Speaker 2: move closer to twenty twenty four. Let's say that we've

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Speaker 2: got Trump v. Biden a rematch. Let's say that you've

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Speaker 2: got somebody like Cornell West, who's on the left that

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Speaker 2: is saying Israel is to blame here. The Palestinians are

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Speaker 2: the aggrieved party. And let's say a lot of those

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Speaker 2: voters who otherwise were supporting Joe Biden Arab background, Palestinian background,

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Speaker 2: either vote for somebody else or don't show up. And

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Speaker 2: there's also a large Jewish population in Michigan. Let's say

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump, and this is not crazy, maybe ten

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Speaker 2: That could be the difference in Michigan by itself, and

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Speaker 2: that could be the difference in the election itself, which

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Speaker 1: I think the.

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Speaker 3: Israel Hamas War will be over long before the height

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Speaker 3: be looking at a lot of other things as well

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Speaker 3: as things come along. But one thing you do have

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Speaker 3: right now that is starting to unfold, Clay, is the

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Speaker 3: prospect of primary challenges, Yes, for members of the squads

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Speaker 3: specifically or far left congressional Democrats being primaried by their

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Speaker 3: I think that there will be you know, the machinery

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Speaker 3: basically coming back and saying this is too much of

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Speaker 3: Squad members face Democratic primary challenges over Israel's stances, and

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Speaker 3: they even mention a Saint Louis County prosecutor named Wesley

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Speaker 3: Bell who has dropped his challenge to Senator Josh Hawley.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna run against Hally so he can primary Congresswoman

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Speaker 3: you will like the general election stuff. You're talking about

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Speaker 3: that very well, Look, how play, how long does this

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Speaker 3: right that could affect those processions. But we've been talking

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Speaker 3: wing of the Democrat Party, which is at least ostensibly

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Speaker 3: and in the main supportive of Israel, which is why

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Speaker 3: But there's this hard left contingent of the Democrat Party

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Speaker 3: Biden wing of the party, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, building on what you said, New

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Speaker 2: York Times today in suburbs of New York primary fight

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Speaker 2: Bruce over Bowman's stance on Israel, there's a big article

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Speaker 2: about the Pittsburgh area district that has been represented by

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Speaker 2: a relatively I think thirty five year old black woman.

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Speaker 2: Front page of the Wall Street Journal today. Again, this

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Speaker 2: and it talks about how direct these battles have become.

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Speaker 2: And you can hear me flipping around the pages. I

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Speaker 2: kind of was stunned. I somehow missed some of this.

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Speaker 2: Josh Gottheimer, who is a centrist, went after everybody who

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Speaker 2: refused to vote to condemn Hamas and said, listen to

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Speaker 2: this book on Thursday. I can't believe this hasn't gotten

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Speaker 2: more attention, because you know, every time there's a Republican

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Speaker 2: civil war, it's all it's everywhere, right, Oh, Republicans there

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Speaker 2: a media love party anymore. They can't agree on anything.

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Speaker 2: Josh Gottheimer tweeted that the fifteen Democrats who didn't vote

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Speaker 2: for the resolution condemning Hamas were quote despicable and do

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Speaker 1: For our party. I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 2: In response on one of those fifteen Democrats, Andre Carson

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Speaker 2: him to settle their differences physically.

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Speaker 1: Who did you see this?

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Speaker 2: I didn't see this until I read it this morning.

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Speaker 2: And so the fight over Israel and Hamas inside of

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party has now accelerated to the point where

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Speaker 2: what they're putting out on social media. And I do

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Speaker 2: think this is problematic. Now you're right in that, Hey,

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Speaker 2: what's the timeframe on this going to be? But it

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Speaker 2: definitely remember elon Omar almost lost in her Minnesota district.

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Speaker 2: I think she only won by a couple one hundred

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Speaker 1: And Buck, I actually think, well.

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Speaker 2: This is a good question for you because you've got

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Speaker 2: the the CIA background. If you were setting we feel

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Speaker 2: that Ukraine and Russia is just now set in a

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Speaker 2: you know, basically a stalemate, right, It's going to exist

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Speaker 2: for years until something gets resolved. You think, is the

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Speaker 3: That fairs almost almost no chance. Okay, it'll be resolved

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Speaker 2: How long does Israel Hamas and the tension that it

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Speaker 1: Is this a six month story to you? Three month story?

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Speaker 2: Obviously the tension in the Middle East is not going away,

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Speaker 2: but this particular uh, this particular terror attack and the

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Speaker 3: I mean just my sense is and I could be

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Speaker 3: I could be way off. I'm obviously not an IDF

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Speaker 3: US soil, which we'll talk more about in the third hour,

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Speaker 3: but there are warnings from the FBI. Now, you know,

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Speaker 3: is this a fight with Israel at Halmas and limited

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Speaker 3: being nine to eleven in the aftermath? Does this come

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Speaker 3: and turn into something much larger? I don't think that

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Speaker 3: that happens, but nobody can predict the future.

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Speaker 2: I think the injured in fifty thousand or so largely

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Speaker 2: Biden supporting Muslim voters in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: This will impact their turnout for.

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Speaker 3: But Claire, Remember they remember what the White House does though,

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Speaker 3: right they say, you know you have Karine Jean Pierre

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: They they do this, They play both sides on this

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Speaker 3: You know, the voter base in say a place like

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Speaker 3: and Arab Muslim population. So you know, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they really blame like I think they also recognize

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Speaker 3: the reality of American politics, is what's Biden going to

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Speaker 3: say He's going to side with Hamas. No, They're going

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Speaker 5: Don't miss the day of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 3: Radio host Charlemagne badd was speaking about Eric Adams immigration crisis,

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Speaker 6: Eric Adams was very progressive on immigration when it wasn't

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Speaker 6: He was like, we need to open our hearts to

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Speaker 3: Now, obviously it's making some jokes there, but I'll just

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot to pay attention to in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 3: There's something else that I want to put on your radar.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back and appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this a little bit on Monday show.

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Speaker 2: I think buck with Mike Penn's dropping out word was

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Speaker 3: Well, what you've posed is the singular most important or

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Speaker 3: They've got the civil trial, they're front loading that, and

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Speaker 8: People are saying you're on the show list Trump's VP

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Speaker 6: Is being Trump's running mate really worth it?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 7: I haven't been asked yet, and my focus is now

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Speaker 7: But my focus today as it always will be. I

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Speaker 7: and that's where my focus is.

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Speaker 7: It's interesting, and I think it's it's a conversation we

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Speaker 2: he has to pick a minority. I don't think he

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Speaker 2: has to pick a woman. I don't think he has

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Speaker 2: to pick a white guy.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I think Trump has got a lot of options out there.

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Speaker 2: The one that then this may be the one that

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Speaker 2: that that doesn't end up happening. But to me, other

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Speaker 2: than RFK Junior, who I think it's fair to say

447
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Speaker 2: has kind of spiraled off right. Although if you thought

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Speaker 2: that he could bring you some support again, I would

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Speaker 2: be intrigued by that.

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Speaker 1: I would.

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Speaker 2: I still think, tell me if you think I'm crazy

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Speaker 2: on this, Oh I will. I still think Trump may

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Speaker 2: consider Tucker Carlson. Wait what, Yeah? Have you said that

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Speaker 2: before on this show? I think we said it back

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Speaker 2: in April when Tucker like, uh, you know, initially initially, but.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about this coupled from Fox.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about this, uh the last

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Speaker 2: couple of days because my conversation. My my intuition, I

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Speaker 2: think I said on July seventeenth that to me, Trump

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Speaker 2: was going to be the nominee, and as we sit

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Speaker 2: here on November. First, my if I look at the math,

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Speaker 2: my analysis of the math is Trump's got over fifty percent.

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Speaker 1: Let me play this audio and then we can have

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Speaker 1: some fun.

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Speaker 3: With un You kind of dropped the bomb there, and

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Speaker 3: then you know, hold on, we I think Carlson as VP.

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Speaker 3: You really this is something that's because I told you RFK,

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Speaker 3: that's not going to happen, because he's a LIB and

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Speaker 3: everyone's wait a second, he's a Democrat. He's actually lived,

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Speaker 3: so that's not going to happen. But Tucker's mob obviously.

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Speaker 2: So my preference, if I were making a choice for Trump,

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Speaker 2: would be too solely focus on electability. So if he

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Speaker 2: asked me, Clay, who should I pick? I would give

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Speaker 2: the answer. And he's not going to pick him, and

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Speaker 2: I don't think you'd accept it. I would say, take

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Speaker 2: Brian Camp and take Georgia off the table, right rights,

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Speaker 2: and then.

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Speaker 3: My last people on the planet. He's more likely to

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Speaker 3: pick you or me as VP than Brian kap Okay,

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Speaker 3: but that would be my answer.

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Speaker 2: My second answer would be probably Glenn Youngkin, because if

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Speaker 2: you think Glenn Youngkin could put Virginia in play in

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Speaker 2: any way, I want to look at the electoral map.

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Speaker 2: I would say, look at Ron Johnson up in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: There are people that I would point to make a difference. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but in terms of spectacle, an amount of attention and

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Speaker 2: honestly quality of attack, which is what a lot of

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Speaker 2: times what you want as your VP. Can you imagine

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Speaker 2: Tucker on a stage with Kamala Harris in a VP

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Speaker 2: debate and what he would do to her? I think

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Speaker 2: Trump if you're a showman, which we know Trump is,

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Speaker 2: and you are looking for the best possible spectacle. Also

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Speaker 2: someone you like hanging out with, someone who will make

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Speaker 2: really good arguments, someone bucking up think this is important,

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Speaker 2: who can defend you better than you can defend yourself,

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Speaker 2: which I think Tucker could. If I were Trump, I

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Speaker 2: would have Tucker Carlson in my final four or five

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Speaker 2: people that I would consider to be vice president.

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Speaker 1: I is that crazy in your opinion?

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, I don't know I would Tucker want

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying whether Tucker would want to do it,

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 3: But are you saying wouldn't be an effective VP choice

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Speaker 3: for Donald Trump? And here here's what I will say.

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Speaker 3: You know, like a governor from Indiana, for example. I

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Speaker 3: know that he did that to shore up some support

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Speaker 3: with the evangelicals, but I don't think evangelicals are a

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Speaker 3: problem for Trump anymore. I don't think they were really

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Speaker 3: in the first place. At least that was the thinking

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Speaker 3: behind it, right, yeah, right. You know what you don't

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Speaker 3: want is a governor or a congressman or congresswoman from

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Speaker 3: a very red state that brings really nothing, that brings

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Speaker 3: nothing to either agree electorally or in terms of media sizzle.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously with h with Tucker, you get a

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Speaker 3: tremendous amount of media sizzle. I mean you get a

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Speaker 3: lot of advantage out of that. And then there's also

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Speaker 3: a natural sense of Trump as the UH, as the

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Speaker 3: eventual king maker once he's had his second term, and

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Speaker 3: then there's somebody who would continue the America First movement.

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Speaker 3: So no, I don't think it's I don't think it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm going to text Tucker at a second

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Speaker 3: here and be like, Tucker, is this crazy? And maybe

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Speaker 3: he'll come on the show and tell us whether it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: But we're in elections now. Are media fights. They're not policies,

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Speaker 3: that's right. They are media fights first, and so who's

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Speaker 3: better at a media fight than Tucker? If you're Trump

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Speaker 3: and you, just like some of you out there, probably

529
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Speaker 3: think I'm crazy, and I understand you know, but I'm

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Speaker 3: just trying to think like Trump. And if you're already

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Speaker 3: working towards who your VP you think should be.

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Speaker 1: To me, what does Trump need?

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Speaker 2: Trump needs a absolute attack dog who is simultaneously a

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Speaker 2: great defender of trump Ism, someone who understands television, someone

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Speaker 2: who understands media, someone who is going to bring with

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Speaker 2: him a strong group of supporters or her. To me,

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Speaker 2: the question is, do you want an alpha or do

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Speaker 2: you want a beta? If I'm Trump right now and

539
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: I believe I'm in war and I think he is,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be with somebody in a fox

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Speaker 2: hole who is going to be constantly looking to me

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Speaker 2: and asking what should we do next?

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Speaker 4: Sir?

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Speaker 2: I want a badass who's going to have my back,

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Speaker 2: and if there's somebody running at me, he's going to

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Speaker 2: pop up and take him out. And that's why to

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Speaker 2: me if I were Trump, I think Tucker would have

548
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Speaker 2: to be one of the four or five guys or

549
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Speaker 2: girls at the forefront of my analysis. I like Nancy

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Speaker 2: makes We've had her on the show. She's from South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Trump's gonna win South Carolina. I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 2: buy into this idea that Trump has to have a

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Speaker 2: woman or Trump has to have a minority. I want

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Speaker 2: Trump to pick the biggest badass out there and help

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Speaker 2: him win.

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Speaker 3: This point one with Trump is he doesn't have to

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Speaker 3: do it. You know, you don't tell Trump he has

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Speaker 3: to do anything, right, I mean, Trump will the moment

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Speaker 3: you tell me he have to do something. That's what

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Speaker 3: he's not doing.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I'm trying to think like him. And

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Speaker 2: then also the other thing we know is Trump is

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Speaker 2: the consummate showman. He loves a spectacle. Name a vice

564
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Speaker 2: president he could pick that would get more attention than Tucker.

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Speaker 2: It also would allow him to continue his you know,

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Speaker 2: his his his total ownership, I would say of right

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Speaker 2: wing media. In many ways, Tucker, as you well know,

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Speaker 2: very well liked, good dude.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we both like Tucker.

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Speaker 3: We're always very honest about when we're friends with people

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Speaker 3: and we talk about them on the show.

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Speaker 1: So just think I've got to do a read here.

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Speaker 2: But I might have blown everybody's mind by just tossing

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Speaker 2: this out, But I've been thinking more and more about

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Speaker 2: who the VP is and if you're not going to

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Speaker 2: go super logical and just take somebody who guarantees that

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Speaker 2: you should win a state, which is again what I

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Speaker 2: would do.

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Speaker 3: This is less crazy than your RFK Junior as VP idea.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say it, so there you go. It's

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Speaker 3: less crazy than.

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Speaker 2: That that that might be damning this this idea with

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Speaker 2: very fate praise from your perspective. But I I think

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Speaker 2: I think it could make a lot of sense, and

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Speaker 2: I just want everybody to kind of think about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean in terms of in terms of the choice

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Speaker 2: that you would make going forward. Let me find my

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Speaker 2: the ether. And I'm surprised that there hasn't been frankly

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Speaker 4: Thanks, and Alliance are going to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Wait, we missed the first part. If that happens, he's

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Speaker 4: Buck.

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Speaker 2: If the Lions win the super Bowl, that's a sign

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Speaker 2: that the apocalypse is truly here. My wife was legitimately

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Speaker 2: saying that last night. Who's from the Detroit area? She

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Speaker 2: and two, but continue.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So last week, a female I don't know if

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Speaker 2: her or why.

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Speaker 4: Well, the latest I heard a few days ago was

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Speaker 4: that they believe they have a person or person of interest.

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Speaker 4: That's it, and they're keeping tight lift about it. I

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Speaker 4: have a feeling it could be tied into what's going

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Speaker 4: on in the Middle East, but they're keeping quiet about it.

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Speaker 1: That is the fear.

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Speaker 2: I think that a lot of people all over Southeast Michigan,

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Speaker 2: particularly the Jewish community, has had associated with the murder

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Speaker 2: of that woman, and again they've kind of kept it close.

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Speaker 1: I think they've argued, at least.

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Speaker 2: Somewhat publicly, because I've read a decent amount about this

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Speaker 2: case over the last week or so, that they did

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Speaker 2: not believe it was connected necessary to her being ahead

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Speaker 2: of the synagogue. But I you know, I'm not an

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Speaker 2: expert on Detroit murder investigations, to be sure, but I

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Speaker 2: know that that is one that has shaken many people

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Speaker 2: all over Southeast Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Coming up, I want to talk to you a bit

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Speaker 3: about the funding for Ukraine and Israel, this emergency funding

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Speaker 3: request that is out there, and also the Biden White

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Speaker 3: House and Biden's senior level cabinet officials talking about the

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Speaker 3: elevated terrorist threat against the Home Land and what this

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Speaker 3: has to do, perhaps also with the wide open border

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Speaker 3: situation that we are seeing and what our national security

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Speaker 3: prospects look like going forward. We also have Alan Derschwitz

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Speaker 3: with us in the middle of the next hour, so

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Speaker 3: we are racked and stacked and have a lot to

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Speaker 3: bring to the bear to the conversation, and I'll just

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Speaker 3: throw this out there at now. Clay, I was very

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Speaker 3: sad last night. No trick or treaters, man, you got

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Speaker 3: a lot of brutal We had to