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Speaker 1: dot com. Hello everybody, Happy holidays. We've put together some

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Speaker 1: major highlight reels and all this stuff, so make sure

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Speaker 1: you had some content while we were gone. It's been

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Speaker 1: a crazy year.

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Speaker 2: It's been a wild year, many many highlights, lowlights, et

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Speaker 2: cetera for us to get to. Certainly one of the

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Speaker 2: most extraordinary timelines and events that unfolded and that we

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Speaker 2: got to experience your live was the Biden debate, in

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Speaker 2: which he was unable to artickulate really a single coherent

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Speaker 2: sentence and bragged about what we finally beat was a Medicare,

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Speaker 3: Good job, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: That led to a whole democratic catastrophe and panic mode

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Speaker 3: Eventually he drops out.

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Speaker 2: So here for you guys, is a little bit of

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Speaker 2: the highlights of our coverage of that sequence of events

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Speaker 1: And joy, we're back everybody, And we just witnessed, uh

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Speaker 1: profound moment I think in American history great.

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Speaker 2: I'm feel great about the country.

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Speaker 1: That one's going down in the history books. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the single takeaway. I wish we could sit here as

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Speaker 1: into the back and forth. And the profound truth is

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Speaker 1: absolute just shocking nature of his appearance, of his delivery.

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Speaker 1: Even whenever we were trying to parse the substance Crystal,

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Speaker 1: the four of us, we just we couldn't even get

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Speaker 1: I don't know what else I could say.

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Speaker 2: I mean two words elder abuse. Yeah, it was painful

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Speaker 2: to watch. It's like from the Jung It was painful.

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Speaker 2: His voice, his face, his inability to maintain a single

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Speaker 3: It was horrendous. And like I mean, Trump.

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Speaker 2: Is all over the place and said all kinds of

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Speaker 2: But like you said, Zagar, I can't even get to like, oh,

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Speaker 4: Ryan, Yeah, it felt like he spent way too much

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Speaker 3: So do you think this was that performance?

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Speaker 1: It was that performance? If it was anything into this,

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Speaker 2: So we should know Emily, Well, Charlie, she's doing something else.

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Speaker 2: We didn't kick Emily off the island.

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Speaker 2: She wanted me to share with you She also thought

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Speaker 1: Well, she said old as fuck. Let's be.

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Speaker 2: She said, he's oldest fuck and she'll share more of

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Speaker 2: I I shouldn't say this because it will incentivize people

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Speaker 2: Somebody tweeted out like, oh, I have two sources who

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Speaker 1: So the Biden campaign Crystal has called every mainstream reporter

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Speaker 1: Stoneface, the open mouth gape. I mean, anybody who has

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Speaker 1: This is also where I have to eat the he

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Speaker 1: People aren't going to like that. Even on abortion, he

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Speaker 1: take away? It ain't anything to do with late term.

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Speaker 1: It is, oh my god, what is going on in

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Speaker 1: front of us? Go ahead, Crystal.

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Speaker 2: So Kyle texted me an update from SNBC. He says

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Speaker 2: they're waving the towel. Nicole Wallace said people will be

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Speaker 4: And yes, they're absolutely completely panicked. People who have been

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Speaker 1: Okay. Some are saying something's got to give.

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Speaker 4: This is insane, Like these are very sober, centrist minded

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Speaker 1: Some of them are saying, something's got to give, and

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I got it. There's there's no just delusional.

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Speaker 4: which showed you that there isn't And Democrats are heartened

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Speaker 4: the public likes Democrats, right, they just don't like Biden.

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Speaker 7: And so the only reason that everyone is now expressing

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Speaker 7: Don't think they can get away with it this time though.

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Speaker 1: this is that first time, remember there was Andrew Mitchell

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Speaker 2: We've got a CNN clip to give us all a flavor.

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Speaker 9: It involves party strategists, it involves elected officials, it involves fundraisers,

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Speaker 1: That's right first, afterwards, keep that ouns right.

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Speaker 2: That is interesting because he raises a good point because again,

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Speaker 3: Doing the right thing for the country or whatever. That's

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Speaker 2: We're talking about self interested political actors who have their

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Speaker 2: think is true, which is that, yes, Democrats are going

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Speaker 2: if you're a Rosen in Nevada, if you're a tester

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Speaker 1: So you can see the divided Congress, the old divide.

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Speaker 1: There is actually good evidence for that. Yeah, it gets

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Speaker 4: Going to be a problem for there is probably it's

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Speaker 3: They're going to have to defend it as the benefit.

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Speaker 8: They will have to defend him every day at every

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Speaker 1: That's right. We have a apparently we have a joy

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Speaker 10: Was on the phone throughout much of the debate with

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Speaker 3: It's bad, and it was worse. It was.

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Speaker 3: Trump said that.

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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, we have some absolutely massive breaking news,

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Speaker 2: which is that much anticipated or speculated about. President Joe

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Speaker 2: He is not resigning that position. I'm going to pull

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Speaker 2: And while it has been my intention to seek reelection,

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Speaker 2: For now, let me express my deepest gratitude to all

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Speaker 2: Signed Joe Biden. So Ryan, a few things that jump

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Speaker 2: out at me right off the jump. First of all,

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Speaker 2: the timing is wild. The RNC just concluded obviously we

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Speaker 2: are weeks away from the DNC, so just an extraordinary

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Speaker 2: moment in history. Second of all, he is withdrawing from

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Speaker 2: the race but remaining as president, not resigning from that position.

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Speaker 2: That was a new push that Republicans in particular were

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Speaker 2: starting to make, but others as well are saying, listen,

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Speaker 2: if you're not fit to run for office, how are

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Speaker 2: you fit to continue to serve in the presidency. Number Three,

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Speaker 2: While he expresses his gratitude to Kamala Harris his of

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Speaker 2: course vice president. He does not endorse her or any

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Speaker 2: specific process to succeed him as democratic nominee here, leaving

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Speaker 2: an open question whether he will do any of that

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Speaker 2: or just leave it open to what comes next.

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Speaker 3: So what is your initial reaction here, Yes.

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Speaker 4: All of that, thanking Kamala Harris for being a partner

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Speaker 4: in the process but not endorsing her is huge. It

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Speaker 4: opens up the next several days to be a period

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Speaker 4: of intense jocking. Biden, as has been reported basically everywhere,

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Speaker 4: was at king lear levels of resentment and anger over

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Speaker 4: the last several days as he's been being pushed to leave.

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Speaker 4: And Griffin, did you say something? Okay, there you go,

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Speaker 4: Griffin says he just endorsed Kamala Harris. So breaking news

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Speaker 4: from Griffin that he did not endorse her in the

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Speaker 4: letter but waited until afterwards to endorse her might be

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Speaker 4: a way to you know, sanctify the dignity of the

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Speaker 4: Oval office and not sully it with the political machinations

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Speaker 4: of political machinims. That's how democrats think. That is very

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Speaker 4: democrat brain. So now you're going to see the entire

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Speaker 4: now You're going to see a contest between those who

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Speaker 4: are advocating for an open convention, such as Nancy Pelosi,

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Speaker 4: such as myself, I rarely agree with Nancy Pelosi, and

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Speaker 4: those who say, look, it's it's too chaotic, it's too toxic,

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Speaker 4: it's too late. What we need to do now is

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Speaker 4: just rally behind Kamala Harris and just right, you know,

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Speaker 4: ride to the elect ride to the general election with.

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Speaker 2: So here is the here's the Joe Biden tweet in

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Speaker 2: which he endorses Kamala Harris. He says, my fellow Democrats,

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Speaker 2: I've decided not to accept the nomination to focus all

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Speaker 2: my energies on my duties as president for the remainder

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Speaker 2: of my term. My very first decision as the party

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Speaker 2: nominee in twenty twenty was to pick Kamala Harris as

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Speaker 2: my vice president, and it's been the best decision I've made. Today,

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Speaker 2: I want to offer my full support and endorsement for

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Speaker 2: Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats,

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Speaker 2: it's time to come together and beat Trump. Let's do this.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see whether the strength of Joe Biden's endorsement

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Speaker 2: of Kamala is enough to completely quiet those like Pelosi,

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Speaker 2: who reportedly, behind the scenes, had been pushing for an

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Speaker 2: open convention process. I suspect that many of the donors

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Speaker 2: also are interested in that open convention process. The reason

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Speaker 2: being that, I mean, if you look at the polling,

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Speaker 2: one of the weakest candidates to run against Trump not

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Speaker 2: named Joe Biden is Kamala Harris, at least according to

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Speaker 2: the polling today. Now, listen, none of that is set

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Speaker 2: in stone. She may be sort of I think underappreciated

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Speaker 2: at the moment, given the fact that she just hasn't

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Speaker 2: been in the public spotlight that much. You could see

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Speaker 2: a bump just based on the fact, Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: she's not a thousand years old and she can string

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Speaker 2: three sentences together.

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Speaker 3: This is incredible. But if you're just.

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Speaker 2: Going by the data at this point, you would look

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Speaker 2: at her compared to a Gretchen Whitmer, a Pete Boodagic,

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Speaker 2: a Gavin Newsom, Andy Pasheer, a Josh Shapiro, a Roy Coo.

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Speaker 2: The list goes on and on and on, and say,

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Speaker 2: if you're just concerned with defeating Donald Trump, any one

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Speaker 2: of these other candidates is likely to be in a

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Speaker 2: stronger position. The other thing with regards to Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 2: I mean, there are a few things to mention here. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: it goes without saying that her defenders will say that

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Speaker 2: it is outrageous to shove aside the first female woman

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Speaker 2: vice president, black woman vice president. They will also say

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Speaker 2: voters in the primary, which you know, let's put aside

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Speaker 2: the fact there really wasn't a primary, but they voted

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Speaker 2: for Biden Harris, so she has more democratic legitimacy. This

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Speaker 2: is the case that they would make for why she

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Speaker 2: should be the presumptive nominee.

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Speaker 3: So there's that.

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Speaker 2: There's also the fact that she's been in the public eye,

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Speaker 2: so perhaps she's better vetted than other potential candidates who

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Speaker 2: could be a wildcard. On the flip side of all

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Speaker 2: of that, Ryan, you know, she also we know her weaknesses,

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Speaker 2: we know the negatives, and we also know, based on polling,

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Speaker 2: that the people who are most closely associated with the

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Speaker 2: Biden administration really have a weight around their neck at

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Speaker 2: this point, especially because of the sense of betrayal of

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Speaker 2: this administration and the level of cover up that they

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Speaker 2: perpetrated on the American public visa via his health concerns.

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Speaker 4: Yea, And I think the argument that she's been vetted

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Speaker 4: is one of the flimsiest, and that she's been, you know,

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Speaker 4: a national figure. It's true that she was vetted during

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Speaker 4: the twenty nineteen twenty twenty campaign, and.

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Speaker 1: She absolutely withered under the heat of it.

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Speaker 4: So it's not like she was vetted and then succeeded

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Speaker 4: in even making it to Iowa, like she dropped out

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Speaker 4: before Iowa, because once national attention was on her, she crumbled.

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Speaker 4: She was then picked by Biden, not as he says,

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Speaker 4: because he thinks she'd be a great president, but because

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Speaker 4: that's what he wanted to add to the ticket for

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Speaker 4: electoral purposes.

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Speaker 2: She had.

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Speaker 4: There hasn't been a whole lot of focus on her,

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Speaker 4: you know, during the Biden Harris administration, to the extent

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Speaker 4: it was was about her comment do not come about immigration,

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Speaker 4: or you know, her effort to do voting rights she got.

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Speaker 4: She kept getting handed these really impossible tasks, which is

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Speaker 4: often what presidents do. That's what Obama did to Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: The most scrutiny she got was over her massive staff turmoil. Now, journalistically,

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Speaker 4: if Kamala Harris does win, it could be delightful for reporters,

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Speaker 4: because you know, the vice president's office has been toxic

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Speaker 4: and chaotic and filled with leaks. Less so in the

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Speaker 4: last you know, six months or so, but for most

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Speaker 4: of the Biden administration, her office was just a disaster. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: just with people rotating in and out constantly and leaving

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Speaker 4: and trashing the culture there, which is exactly what happened.

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Speaker 11: During the campaign.

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Speaker 4: Remember New York Times, the Political and others did the

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Speaker 4: tiktoks about her campaign talking about how, you know, what

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Speaker 4: a train wreck the entire thing was. Now, the reason

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Speaker 4: I think that you're not going to end up with

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Speaker 4: an open convention is because people like Pelosi can manifest

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Speaker 4: the possibility of it, because they have enough power to

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Speaker 4: do that, but they can't force anybody to run. And

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Speaker 4: that these centrist Democratic candidates are so cowardly and cynical

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Speaker 4: and calculating that I don't think, I hope I'm proven

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Speaker 4: wrong here. I don't think any of them will even

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Speaker 4: challenge Kamala Harris. My understanding is that they believe that

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Speaker 4: because she has establishment endorsements and she's the vice president,

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Speaker 4: that she's very difficult to beat, that they will likely

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Speaker 4: lose to her, that they would be seen as disloyal,

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Speaker 4: and that Harris will lose in the general that they

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Speaker 4: would be blamed or those of her loss, or the

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Speaker 4: fact that they challenge her and loss would be considered

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Speaker 4: their shot, like hey, hey, you had your shot, you

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Speaker 4: pulled your ticket, you got your order, get in the

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Speaker 4: back of line, and so everybody else. So everybody's like, okay,

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Speaker 4: let's let her lose and then we will run in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight, which of course flies in the face

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Speaker 4: of all the Democratic arguments that I make that.

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Speaker 1: There won't be a twenty twenty eight election.

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Speaker 4: So like, wait a minute, which one is it here?

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Speaker 2: So I want to come back to this, but I

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Speaker 2: do want to back up for a second and just

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit about Joe Biden's decision making process

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Speaker 2: and these extraordinary past several weeks. Obviously, this all began

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Speaker 2: with that utterly disastrous debate performance, which Ran I want

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Speaker 2: to give you an eye will pat on the back,

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Speaker 2: because in our pre debate coverage, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you remember this, I think we both were saying that

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Speaker 2: there is a possibility that he's so bad tonight that

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Speaker 2: it is not recoverable.

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Speaker 4: And I haven't said a bunch of Democrats were like

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Speaker 4: secretly hoping for well.

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Speaker 2: Thing, that it would be such a disaster. That's right,

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Speaker 2: and that is what unfolds now. I didn't actually expect

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Speaker 2: it to be that bad. I thought it would be bad.

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Speaker 3: But in the way that expectations it did.

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Speaker 2: I thought it would be bad in the way that

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Speaker 2: He's normally bad, but it was, you know, an extra

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Speaker 2: special level of bad, and that has just sent the

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Speaker 2: whole party into a total tail spin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was certainly insane. I'll never forget that.

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Speaker 3: People loved our live pan during the debate, of.

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Speaker 1: Course, yeah, because we were like I think it was

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Speaker 1: literally a shot being like this, like in the first

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Speaker 1: ten minutes too, because that was the craziest part of

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Speaker 1: it is it started off bad and it just somehow

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Speaker 1: got worse.

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Speaker 2: Way like how is this going to last for two hours?

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Speaker 2: Like how is this going to happen?

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Speaker 1: I still don't I still can't believe it lasted as

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Speaker 1: long as it did. I think the most insane part

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Speaker 1: of that whole thing is that it was part of

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Speaker 1: the most insane week in American politics, because you had

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Speaker 1: the Biden debate, then you had the or insane like

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Speaker 1: month in American politics. You had all of that, and

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Speaker 1: then on the heels of it is the Trump attempted assassinations,

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Speaker 1: which was so crazy to live through because it happened

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Speaker 1: on a Saturday. You have the immediate images of literal

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Speaker 1: blood on his face, then you have the fallout, then

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Speaker 1: you have the Secret Service investigation, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: you know whatever happened with that, but anyways, it was

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Speaker 1: totally totally insane.

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Speaker 2: Well in his reaction in that moment, which becomes, you know,

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Speaker 2: an enduring image and certainly an iconic image. I still

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Speaker 2: see posters of it around my conservative community, etc. So

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Speaker 2: just for you guys to recall, here was our immediate

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Speaker 2: reaction at the time, and some of are coverage of

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Speaker 2: how that wild series of events all unfolded.

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Speaker 1: We have full spectrum coverage here at breaking points this

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Speaker 1: morning of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump at his

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Speaker 1: rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday. We brought you two

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Speaker 1: breaking news segments over the weekend breaking some of that down,

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Speaker 1: but we're going to go a full through the timeline

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Speaker 1: of the events, some of the fallout, what we know

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Speaker 1: about the shooter so far, the FBI investigation, President Biden's

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Speaker 1: response will then dissect exactly what we know about the

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Speaker 1: Secret services colossal failure here in preventing this attempted assassination,

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Speaker 1: some of the holes that have opened up, and some

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Speaker 1: of the background also into the problems inside of this

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Speaker 1: agency that are now glaringly revealed after this incident. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk a little bit about President Biden and

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Speaker 1: his political future. His political future appear saved more so

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Speaker 1: now by the attempted assassination and some of the news

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Speaker 1: coverage and some of the planning going on now behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes by the Democratic Party. How they think that

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Speaker 1: they can weather this and perhaps go all the way

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Speaker 1: to election day without more calls from elected officials calling

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Speaker 1: on Biden to drop out. We're going to give everybody

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Speaker 1: a preview of the RNC, which of course kicks off

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Speaker 1: today and will go all the way to Thursday. Some

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Speaker 1: news about Donald Trump and the speech that he has given,

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Speaker 1: and about also some changes that he's made to that

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Speaker 1: speech in the wake of his shooting. How he's feeling

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Speaker 1: exactly how this will change the presidential election race going

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Speaker 1: a funny note, somebody who you saw very recently here

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Speaker 1: on this program, the advisor to Democratic billionaire Megadonner Reed Hoffman,

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Speaker 1: has apparently been caught in the immediate aftermath of the shooting,

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Speaker 1: who you saw in our counterpoints debate against Shank Yuger

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Speaker 1: about Biden staying in the race. Well, he apparently was

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Speaker 1: view into the democratic elite mind and some of the

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Speaker 1: conspiracies that harbor there. As we said at the top,

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Speaker 1: this is a full spectrum breaking points coverage. Thank you

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Speaker 1: to everybody, our premium subscribers who enable us to be

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Speaker 1: able to put out that breaking news coverage, to continue

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Speaker 1: doing the show here every day. Our own Emily Jashinski

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Speaker 1: is on the ground at the RNC, so throughout the

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Speaker 1: week we'll check in with her about what's going on.

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Speaker 1: She'll be doing interviews and other things. And then don't

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Speaker 1: forget we also the entire crew will be on the

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Speaker 1: ground for the DNA see which is in August in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: So thank you to all of our premium members here,

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Speaker 1: the guys who enable us to continue doing this work.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the attempted assassination on Donald Trump, and

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Speaker 1: I'll try and just start at the very beginning of

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Speaker 1: the incident. So let's go ahead and play some of

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Speaker 1: the video here. This was in Butler, Pennsylvania, approximately six

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Speaker 1: fifteen pm. You saw Trump. He was in the middle

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Speaker 1: see shots begin to ring out and Secret Service agents

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Speaker 1: things is that you can see the incredible confusion going

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Speaker 1: you hear in the background is people realizing that an

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Speaker 1: he was excited to go to the former president's rally,

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Speaker 1: Doctor who was on the scene said that he was

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Speaker 1: shot in the head and almost certainly a fatality. Immediately

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Speaker 1: that into and I'll bring you some news about him.

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Speaker 1: But what you're watching, obviously is just an incredibly chaotic scene.

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Speaker 1: You have these Secret Service agents. We can actually hear

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Speaker 1: has been neutralized. As Trump begins to rise, they bring

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Speaker 1: with their own bodies around the former president. One of

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Speaker 1: standing there. Trump obviously is both He's a little bit

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Speaker 1: and was able to capture Trump with his fist in

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Speaker 1: the air, blood on his face, in the American flag

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Speaker 1: flying high in the background as he is rushed to

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Speaker 1: well and put that image please up on the screen.

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Speaker 1: This is where a lot of the questions now are

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Speaker 1: centering what the hell happened here with this response from

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Speaker 1: law enforcement. So what you can see directly in front

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Speaker 1: of you, this is a map that's been put together.

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Speaker 1: You can see the stage where Donald Trump was speaking

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Speaker 1: in Butler, Pennsylvania. You can also see where the wounded

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Speaker 1: rally attempt attendee was sitting. You can see behind where

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Speaker 1: the law enforcement counter snipers were positioned on the rooftop.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of discussion around the actions of

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Speaker 1: those counter snipers. But then over to the left on

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Speaker 1: that building rooftop was the location of the gunman's body.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of questions here about how exactly

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Speaker 1: a gunman is able to walk on to a rooftop

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Speaker 1: with a direct line of sight to former President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: He's able not only to walk onto the rooftop, he's

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Speaker 1: the former president. Let's go and put the next graphic

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Speaker 1: up please. That is also very helpful in kind of

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Speaker 1: discovering what happened here. This shows you actually on the

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Speaker 1: this individual was able to get. We're talking about one

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Speaker 1: obvious and direct lines of sight. Now there's big discussions

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Speaker 1: here about the failures of the Secret Service, but I

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Speaker 1: think that image actual really puts everything together quite well.

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Speaker 1: You could see exactly where the shooter was, you could

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Speaker 1: see where the Secret Service snipers were, and you can

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Speaker 1: also see where Donald Trump was there on the stage.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately, in the path of that assassin's bullet, a

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Speaker 1: that have happened here. What I think that this image

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Speaker 1: underscores most for us is the failure and some shocking

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Speaker 1: questions that now have to be asked of the Secret

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Speaker 1: Service and how exactly they allowed something like this to happen.

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Speaker 1: Everything that we're beginning to learn now behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: points to absolutely colossal incompetence. All right, So, Elite media news,

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Speaker 1: this is breaking just this morning. Just had to put

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Speaker 1: it here in the show because it's delicious. Let's go

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Speaker 1: ahead and put this up there on the screen. Report

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Speaker 1: from CNN's Oliver Darcy Mourning Joe has been pulled from

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Speaker 1: the air Monday because of the Trump shooting. MSNBC will

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Speaker 1: not air Morning Joe it's quote celebrated politics Roundtable, opting

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Speaker 1: to instead air continued breaking news coverage of the asseempted assassination.

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Speaker 1: They confirmed this decision to preempt its influential and top

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Speaker 1: The network said that the show will resume on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: The decision by MSNBC to leave one of its most

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Speaker 1: that the decision was made to avoid a scenario in

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Speaker 1: guests might make an inappropriate comment on live television that

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Speaker 1: it made more sense to continue airing rolling breaking coverage

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Speaker 1: there is a lot to be said about that, but

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Speaker 1: for one of the bosses to say we don't trust

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Speaker 1: This is the thing too about news, and this is

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Speaker 1: something I've learned a lot about doing this business. We

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Speaker 1: And we're on call twenty four hours and most of

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Speaker 1: because this is all about trust. This is me coming

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Speaker 1: the big times, but in terms of inflation or you know,

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Speaker 1: anytimes you pick random or fun stories or whatever that

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Speaker 1: you have trust in Crystal, Ryan and Emily and everybody

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Speaker 1: here with the news, to report it to you properly,

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Speaker 1: and if you hear any opinion, especially in a fraught

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Speaker 1: it's times like now. I'm not going to say you

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Speaker 1: and we feel very very fortunate that you're willing to

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Speaker 1: bad times, the good times and also in the medium

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Speaker 1: We take somebody off and you say you don't trust

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Speaker 1: quite some time. And the sad thing now is I

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Speaker 1: changing that flip flopping saying oh no, no, he should

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Speaker 1: But more so, think too about what's the story I

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Speaker 1: They think that Donald Trump and Putin staged a shooting

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Speaker 1: That's what they think in the immediate aftermath. Those are

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Speaker 1: Donnie Deutscher, whoever that guy is, who claims that Trump

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Speaker 1: read you know over at MSNBC. She's locked her entire

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Speaker 1: Twitter feed after the attempted assassination. Why what happened? Joy?

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Speaker 1: What'd you tweet out there in the past that you're

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Speaker 1: up all throughout Russigate. He literally tweeted out, you reap

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Speaker 1: what you see. So after the attempted assassination on Trump,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are out there talking about unity

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Speaker 1: This is just normal political rhetoric. Now should it be

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Speaker 1: that way, I don't know whatever, but I've seen plenty

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Speaker 1: of Republicans do that too. And when Sarah Palin put

873
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Speaker 1: out a map which had to quote bulls over Gabby

874
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Speaker 1: Gifford's and targeting her for political defeat, that was not

875
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Speaker 1: legitimate to say that she was trying to incite assassination.

876
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: We are allowed to criticize each other. We believe in

877
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: free speech in this country, especially here on this show,

878
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: and that's not necessarily the grounds. But what we do

879
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: know with the MSNBC situation here and taking Morning Joe

880
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: off the air, is if they were to say something

881
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: inappropriate like that, it's more that they don't have the

882
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Speaker 1: wherewithal to even understand the moment that they are in.

883
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Speaker 1: And I think this should be a lesson for everybody,

884
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Speaker 1: and hopefully maybe send this to your boomer MSNBC relatives,

885
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: the people who put their trust. If their bosses can't

886
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: trust them to maintain their composure, to meet the moment,

887
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: to deliver information in a timely and useful manner to

888
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: their audience when it matters the most, why should you

889
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: trust them to do it at any time? So that

890
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Speaker 1: was a Trump assassination. Then shortly afterwards assassination. Then Biden

891
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: drops out of the race, right then Kamala gets, you know,

892
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: jettisoned in and then we have the one hundred days,

893
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: the craziest hundred day campaign in the history of modern

894
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Speaker 1: American politics. Literally a recall to the days of before,

895
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Speaker 1: the before times, no primary or any of the other stuff.

896
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Speaker 1: A lot of speculations, the stuff going to work, how's

897
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Speaker 1: this going to happen.

898
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Speaker 3: Cheney on the trail, and Cuban out there, all these.

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Speaker 1: Debates sard and yeah exactly, and the couch Yeah, couch crisis,

900
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Speaker 1: cat lady, the cat lady syop.

901
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: That was a good one podcasting strategy that Joe Rogan's interviews.

902
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: So many questions right.

903
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,479
Speaker 2: All of it, of course, culminates in election night, which

904
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Speaker 2: you know, was wild to watch it all unfold. We

905
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 2: of course, we're here at the desk covery it live

906
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: with Ryan and Emily. And then also even after the election,

907
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: some of the things we learned about the Kamala Harris campaign,

908
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: which raised an extraordinary record breaking some of money in

909
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: this short, truncated period of time, and some of the

910
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: things that they spent that money on was truly crazy.

911
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm still learning new details to this day

912
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Speaker 2: about various celebrities that they threw hundreds, if not millions

913
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Speaker 2: of dollars to out of these campaign funds. So here

914
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Speaker 2: for you, guys, is a little bit of our immediate reaction,

915
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Speaker 2: and then some of the things we learned in the aftermath.

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Speaker 12: Donald J.

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00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: Trump officially declared president of the President elect of the

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00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: United States. He won the election last night. The AP

919
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: called the race around four in the morning or so.

920
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: He took to the stage roughly around two thirty to

921
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Speaker 1: declare victory in a speech. We have some of that speech.

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Speaker 1: This is the correct one this time. Let's take a

923
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Speaker 1: listen and let's queue it up and watch.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you all very much.

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Speaker 13: This is great.

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Speaker 5: These are our friends.

928
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Speaker 13: We have thousands of friends on this.

929
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Speaker 1: Incredible movement.

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Speaker 13: This was a movement like nobody's ever seen before. And frankly,

931
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Speaker 13: this was I believe the greatest political movement of all time.

932
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Speaker 13: There's ever been anything like this in this country and

933
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Speaker 13: maybe be all and now it's going to reach a

934
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Speaker 13: new level of importance because we're going to help our

935
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 13: country heal. We're going to help our country here. We

936
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 13: have a country that needs help, and it needs help

937
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 13: very badly. We're going to fix our borders, We're going

938
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Speaker 13: to fix everything about our country. And we made history

939
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Speaker 13: for a reason tonight, and the reason is going to

940
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 13: be just that we overcame obstacles that nobody thought possible

941
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Speaker 13: and it is now clear that we've achieved the most

942
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Speaker 13: incredible political they look.

943
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Speaker 1: What happened?

944
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Speaker 5: Is this crazy?

945
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Speaker 13: But it's a political victory that our country has never

946
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Speaker 13: seen before, nothing like this. I want to thank the

947
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Speaker 13: American people for the extraordinary honor of being elected your

948
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Speaker 13: forty seventh president, and you are forty fifth president, and

949
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 13: every citizen, I will fight for you, for your family

950
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 13: and your future. Every single day I will be fighting

951
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 13: for you and with every breath in my body. I

952
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 13: will not rest until we have delivered the strong, safe,

953
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Speaker 13: and prosperous America that our children deserve and that you deserve.

954
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Speaker 11: So there we go.

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Speaker 1: That was the victory speech continued for a little bit

956
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Speaker 1: while Kamala Harris will be giving her concession a little

957
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Speaker 1: bit later today, Guys, we can put that up on

958
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Speaker 1: the screen roughly around four pm Eastern time here in

959
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: Washington from Howard University, where she spent some of election

960
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 1: night at her party on Tuesday, decided. The news leaked

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Speaker 1: out roughly around two am that she wouldn't be taking

962
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Speaker 1: the stage to give her concession at that time. But yeah,

963
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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, for those who were not watching live,

964
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Speaker 1: we had a fun, like you know, joke about the

965
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Speaker 1: fact that the right is very upset that she is

966
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Speaker 1: not giving a concession. And I mean, like, on principle,

967
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Speaker 1: I do agree that she's just conceded like last night

968
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Speaker 1: and or this morning, like Hillary Clinton. But yeah, she's

969
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Speaker 1: decided to drag it out a little bit. Also, we

970
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Speaker 1: have not heard a word from the White House. The

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Speaker 1: Bible weren't crazy, the Bible.

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Speaker 4: Weren't Therefore, sorry, let let him hear our decent counter,

973
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Speaker 4: which is that be my guest? Trump still to this

974
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Speaker 4: day has given his concession speech for twenty twenty.

975
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Speaker 1: Well, now he doesn't have to. Now he never has.

976
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Speaker 1: He should give one the time.

977
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Speaker 3: What does he have to give his Farewell?

978
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Speaker 4: You know what I actually here, I actually did lose

979
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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty.

980
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 5: It was just what did he say?

981
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Speaker 3: It was being sarcastic or something.

982
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Speaker 1: He was being sarcastic.

983
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he did actually sort.

984
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 2: Of kind of admit that he lost, and then when

985
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: he got asked about it, the debate was like, I

986
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Speaker 2: wasn't for that was just now he could do the reverse,

987
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: and you like that will stop this deal?

988
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 3: Sob that wasn't I didn't mean it anyway.

989
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: It's over.

990
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Speaker 7: I will say this is legitimately a huge lingering question

991
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 7: for the MAGA right, which poured millions of dollars everyone knows.

992
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 7: I mean, if you were in the conservative space for

993
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Speaker 7: the last couple of years, all the donor energy and

994
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Speaker 7: money was behind election integrity, and they were yesterday Donald

995
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 7: Trump was saying he was pointing to alleged regularities all

996
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Speaker 7: over the country, and so this is going to be

997
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 7: a huge, huge question, did it Are they going to

998
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 7: claim that the election integrity counter efforts worked.

999
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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, let's all be honest. It's happen.

1000
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Speaker 2: But this is actually the point I woult to elaborate

1001
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: on because I was just on Peers Morgan with that

1002
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: guy Vinni from PbD and he was saying, all this

1003
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Speaker 2: the number one priory and the Trump administration needs to

1004
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: be election integrity because the Democrats flew all these illegals

1005
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: into swing.

1006
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Speaker 3: States, blah bla blah.

1007
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Speaker 2: It's like, well, if they did that, why didn't it deliver?

1008
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Speaker 1: For I'm like, what happened far Trump?

1009
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: That's it the Latino shift, Like you ended up winning them.

1010
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 3: So I guess you're welcome.

1011
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: So we do have an element that I think really

1012
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: hammer's home. Just how titanic of an election this was.

1013
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and put the at Financial Times chart

1014
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: please on the screen. It's in the rundown called the

1015
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: red wave chart. And basically Donald Trump gained ground in

1016
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Speaker 1: all forty eight out of fifty states or Washington, Utah

1017
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Speaker 1: and Washington where he did not improve his performance from

1018
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: last time around.

1019
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: And if you look at the map like coast to coast,

1020
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it is just a siege. That Washington Post

1021
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: map we kept pulling up last night and referring to

1022
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: that shows the shifts in every county.

1023
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Speaker 3: It's like just a wash in red.

1024
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: And so it wasn't just the biggest ships were among

1025
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: some of the demographic groups.

1026
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 3: We talked about Latino's in particular.

1027
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: That's the big, the big thing of the Row demographic.

1028
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: Two. You know, young men gen x men actually were big,

1029
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: showed up big for time Trump.

1030
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Speaker 8: As well jen x men.

1031
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Speaker 7: That sounds like a good TV show, a really.

1032
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Speaker 8: Bad one, yeah, coming to TV land.

1033
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: But you know, the games were almost across the board.

1034
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it really was every demographic.

1035
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it makes it very hard to you know,

1036
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 2: so we're going to react to some of the media

1037
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: stuff later, but it makes it very hard to be like, oh,

1038
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Speaker 2: it was you know, Arab Americans, it.

1039
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Speaker 3: Was this, It was that.

1040
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Speaker 2: It really was a sort of national movement repudiation, which

1041
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: I think, you know, also makes it more difficult for

1042
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: liberals and Democratic Party supporters in certain ways to deal

1043
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: with in twenty sixteen, because twenty sixteen it was like

1044
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Speaker 2: call me Russia, sexism, she didn't go to Wisconsin. Next time,

1045
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 2: we'll get them yeah, this time, it's like holy shit.

1046
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, you know what, Now we have our election guru, Logan.

1047
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Speaker 1: By the way, we're going to bring Logan in here, now,

1048
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Logan.

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Speaker 6: I think you're right about that, Crystal, And this is

1050
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 6: a tough day if you're a Democrat. But I also

1051
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 6: would say there's been like five times in the last

1052
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Speaker 6: twenty four twenty eight years where a party thought they

1053
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 6: were completely out after a bad election, you know, from

1054
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Speaker 6: nineteen ninety six for Republicans to after nine to eleven

1055
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Speaker 6: and two thousand and four Democrats thinking they were hopeless

1056
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 6: publicans feeling hopeless in a way like we just go

1057
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Speaker 6: through this all the time, and I'm just starting the list,

1058
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Speaker 6: but I'm wanta finish that.

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Speaker 1: So one, what were you, Well, no, you're not wrong

1060
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: that we should This is not this is not an

1061
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: obituary forever, but it is a near term problem. Like

1062
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: it's a shake problem, not only problem, it's a narrative

1063
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: buster in so many ways, Like we have the Latino

1064
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: men who over they went majority for Donald Trump. We

1065
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Speaker 1: had white suburban women who they bet the House on

1066
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Speaker 1: who also went majority for Donald Trump. So we did

1067
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Speaker 1: see an overall increase in some of the female vote.

1068
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Speaker 1: But one of the things actually that was incorrect was

1069
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Speaker 1: this idea that the gender gap was going to be

1070
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Speaker 1: exclusive amongst Gen zs. Not Actually it was just roughly

1071
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Speaker 1: around twenty points, which is normal. It was just up

1072
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: and down the chain all the way from senior men

1073
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Speaker 1: to senior women. So total mirror. Absolutely. In terms of

1074
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: the retrospective, it's really interesting, you know, thinking about polls

1075
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Speaker 1: and modeling and kind of like what went wrong here.

1076
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the exact number, but I believe

1077
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Speaker 1: that the poll on average in the battleground states off

1078
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Speaker 1: by about three point five percent away from Donald Trump's direction.

1079
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Speaker 1: But really the big failure here no offense logan, because

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Speaker 1: it's not your fault, but it's everybody for all of

1081
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: the modelers, was they simply had no idea how to

1082
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: facilitate a model where you had such major independent, young voter,

1083
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: Latino voter, and even black mail voters all breaking for

1084
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: Trump in a way that they have never voted before

1085
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: in modern history. At the same time, got to pay

1086
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: attention to the campaign that flopped big, and that was

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. And it appears the biggest flop not only

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Speaker 1: was just the vote total, but it actually was a

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Speaker 1: lot of the money decisions that were made inside the campaign.

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Speaker 1: So we have curated now a list. It appears that

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Speaker 1: the Kamala Harris campaign, despite raising over one billion dollars,

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Speaker 1: still ended up some twenty million dollars or so in

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Speaker 1: debt and is now currently fundraising, still asking people for

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Speaker 1: money after she lost. Let's put this up there on

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Speaker 1: the screen. So this is an example of one of

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Speaker 1: the emails she's been sending out.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 1: She says, first and foremost, we want to acknowledge the fear,

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Speaker 1: the confusion, the sadness many of you are feeling at

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Speaker 1: this moment. For others, you may be looking for something

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Speaker 1: meaningful and important to channel your emotions. If that's you,

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Speaker 1: then we're asking you to make a donation to the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party today. Here's why this is important. As you

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Speaker 1: read this, there are US Senate and House races that

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Speaker 1: are too close to call or within the margin of recounts.

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Speaker 1: They all need your help to get across the finish line.

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Speaker 1: So can you please rush a contribution to the Harris

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Speaker 1: Fight Fund program today? Does anyone want to name like

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Speaker 1: a high profile race other than Pennsylvania. That's not in

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Speaker 1: recount territory. That's right, So this is a grift. Let's

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Speaker 1: all be honest. Let's put this up there on the screen.

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Speaker 1: From Newsweek, it appears that there is a significant amount

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Speaker 1: of debt within the Harris Waals campaign, enough so possibly

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Speaker 1: up to that of some twenty million dollars, and people

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Speaker 1: are starting to ask major questions about how some of

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Speaker 1: that got spent. What we see, actually, and very interestingly

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Speaker 1: so far, is not only could she possibly it appears

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Speaker 1: there are reports out there that she's not able to

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Speaker 1: pay some staff.

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Speaker 3: The staffers came out and said it wasn't true.

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Speaker 2: Okay, staffs came out, So the article actually debunks that thing.

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Speaker 2: But the twenty million does seem to.

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Speaker 1: Be That twenty million does seem to be crrect and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of money, and so we should start

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Speaker 1: to take a look then at where some of that

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Speaker 1: money went. And the craziest is this. This is hands

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Speaker 1: down the craziest. Let's put the next one please. From

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Speaker 1: the New York Post, the Harris campaign reportedly spent some

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Speaker 1: six figures on the Call Her Daddy podcast set, so

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Speaker 1: as the they say it didn't even crack a million views.

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Speaker 1: But what's fascinating is that, you know, Call Her Daddy,

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Speaker 1: as I understand it, you know, Alex Cooper, all of this.

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Speaker 1: She has a home, she has a set, like she

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Speaker 1: films it, you know normally, But for some reason, this

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Speaker 1: set the one that people are in front of, which

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Speaker 1: frankly doesn't even look that good. I don't mean look

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Speaker 1: as good as our set. And from what I can

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Speaker 1: tell in the dollar figure, Crystal, I think they spent

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Speaker 1: more money on it more for one goal appearance honestly,

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Speaker 1: appearance that is sounding like.

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Speaker 2: This one expenditure obviously is not responsible for the hair slot,

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Speaker 2: but it really displays a stunning lack of understanding of

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Speaker 2: what matters in the new media space too, Like no

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Speaker 2: one is shown up for your freaking like aesthetics. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean it's not we have a great side.

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Speaker 3: We're proud of it.

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Speaker 2: We like, really, we're proud that you guys helped us

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Speaker 2: build it. It looks great, it helps us attract bigger

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Speaker 2: guests whatever, especially on a podcast like Call Her Daddy,

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Speaker 2: Like the aesthetics are really not the important part. So

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Speaker 2: it just also displays this like lack of really understanding

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Speaker 2: of the space. But the other thing that disgusted me

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Speaker 2: with this is, you know, Kamala had her big money backers,

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Speaker 2: no doubt about it. A lot of these donations didn't

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Speaker 2: come for big money to hop backers. They came from

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Speaker 2: like regular people. You wasted their money to pay Oprah

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Speaker 2: a million, Like you took regular working people's money and

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Speaker 2: you siphoned it to Oprah Winfrey and like Beyonce and

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Speaker 2: Katie Perry and these other celebrity stars.

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Speaker 3: That's disgusting. That is utterly grotesque.

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Speaker 2: It's one more reason why you really should have public

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Speaker 2: funding of elections, Like it should not be this constant

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Speaker 2: emotional manipulation of the public begging them for dollars to

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Speaker 2: go fund another like an Oprah Winfrey show and a

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Speaker 2: Beyonce speech where she doesn't even perform. I just the

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Speaker 2: whole situation is completely grotesque. To be the other thing

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Speaker 2: I would say, obviously like it, the money really didn't matter.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, it really didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Now you can argue, I think the best case you

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Speaker 2: could say is in the battleground state she actually performed

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Speaker 2: better than she did in the non battleground states, meaning

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Speaker 2: that you know, the ads that were played and the

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Speaker 2: field program that was run were at least somewhat consequential

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Speaker 2: in terms of narrowing the gap. Obviously not enough, but

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Speaker 2: the money really wasn't the thing. And if Democrats are

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Speaker 2: going to get serious about winning again, which I doubt

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Speaker 2: they will, but maybe you never know, they need to

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Speaker 2: throw the whole, the whole of their big donor class overboard.

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Speaker 2: They need you know, ready talks about like ohs Sista

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Speaker 2: Soldia moments with the left or web. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: the whole party has been like nothing but a series

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Speaker 2: of Sista Soljia moments with the Left for decades. Now

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Speaker 2: you need to have assist to Soldia moment with the

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Speaker 2: donor class because you don't even you don't even need

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Speaker 2: their money. Their money is actually a hindrance and it

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Speaker 2: just leads to grow test expenditures like a million dollars

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Speaker 2: to an already like Oprah Winfrey is a billionaire. She

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Speaker 2: did not need regular people's million dollars. And what does

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Speaker 2: it say about her or that she needed to be

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Speaker 2: paid to come out and wanted to say about you

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Speaker 2: that she needed to be paid to come out and

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Speaker 2: endorse and back your candidacy.

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Speaker 3: Just disgusting.

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Speaker 2: It's just such so emblematic of what is deeply wrong

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Speaker 2: at the core of this party's ideology.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh well we'll continue within that. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to the next part because this is honestly the craziest

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Speaker 1: one is that it appears that Kamala Harris paid Oprah

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Speaker 1: Winfrey a million dollars during the failed campaign. What's even

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Speaker 1: crazier is it wasn't just Oprah. It includes people like

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Speaker 1: Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Ricky Martin. There was almost ten

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Speaker 1: million bucks that were spent behind this, many of which

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Speaker 1: actually did go into the pockets of these event management

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Speaker 1: companies and the stars. Now here's how naive I am.

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Speaker 1: I am a very cynical guy. Can I think everybody

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Speaker 1: agree with that, all the people who've been watching for years.

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Speaker 1: I genuinely did not know that the labs get paid

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Speaker 1: for it.

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Speaker 8: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I listen, they don't believe in the calls. They show up,

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Speaker 2: you do a concert. That's what I thought was.

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Speaker 1: Going on a billionaire. If I was a billionaire, I

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Speaker 1: was Oprah, right, you know, like it's one thing, like, okay,

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Speaker 1: you donate money to the campaign, if anything, should be

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Speaker 1: the other way you should be given money to the

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Speaker 1: campaign because they're like, look, she's something I believe in

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Speaker 1: all of this. Oh all you want is my time.

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Speaker 1: I'm famous. You want me to come and speak? Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: Yeah I could do that. Honestly, I would do that now,

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Speaker 1: you know if I was in a position of where

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Speaker 1: there but to shake you down for a million bucks.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. And then Katie Perry apparently they also had

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Speaker 1: to drop Blinis Morrison. I don't her name. I'm a boomer.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know who this is.

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Speaker 2: That's an opposite of being a boomer. Okay, I'm old

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Speaker 2: enough to remember when she was.

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Speaker 1: Okay, got it, So I don't real even know this

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Speaker 1: woman is. But whoever she is, they didn't have the

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Speaker 1: money to pay, and I was like, wait, why, Like

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Speaker 1: why is she getting paid? She should just show up.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you don't need to be compensated for your time,

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Speaker 1: Like to me, that's crazy. So anyways, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how all that is going down, but yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: the That was the wildest one.

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Speaker 2: There's one more too, that we can put up on

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Speaker 2: the screen. They spent half a million dollars a day

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Speaker 2: to pay for the like Vegas sphere thing, which is

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Speaker 2: who did this persuade?

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Speaker 3: Like, really, who did this persuade?

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Speaker 2: And I saw someone who said, you know, this is

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Speaker 2: the perfect emblem of a campaign that had all the

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Speaker 2: money in the world and no ideas. And you know

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Speaker 2: that's basically it summed up right there, all the money

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Speaker 2: in the world. But just like with Hillary in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: who also want to spend Donald Trump, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: if you aren't selling something that people don't want to buy.

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Speaker 2: And Trump's campaign fundamentally understood the media landscape vastly better

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Speaker 2: than the Harris campaign did.

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Speaker 1: So obviously that was crazy, that was the fallout, but

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Speaker 1: really going back to this before that, we not only

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Speaker 1: had to cover so much election stuff from twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four onwards, even though we expected that to be the

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Speaker 1: major story, but we came into it obvious with a

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Speaker 1: lot of foreign policy news. Israel dominated a lot of

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Speaker 1: the foreign policy conversation, especially in the early twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four because it was in the immediate aftermath of October

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Speaker 1: seventh and the initial days of the war, so there

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Speaker 1: were a lot of takes things that were flying around.

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Speaker 1: The debate got wild, It got pretty crazy. Yeah, here,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily at the desk, I would say, more in

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Speaker 1: the country in terms of how things got to a

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Speaker 1: lot of dual loyalties, other things, works boats. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it got interesting, yeah.

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Speaker 2: For sure, And both of us made a few attempts

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Speaker 2: to branch out from just this, at times ill advised

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Speaker 2: attempts to branch out to other shows and podcasts. I

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Speaker 2: was on Piers Morgan, had some interesting experiences there, going

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Speaker 2: up against some former IDF dude. I also was on

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Speaker 2: Remember when I was on with that leady who claimed

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Speaker 2: she had her eyes stabbed at.

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Speaker 1: A Oh yeah, it was total FAKEO turned out to.

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Speaker 2: Be totally fake insanity, And there were a lot of

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Speaker 2: cultural figures that reacted, you know, extraordinary ways to the

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Speaker 2: event's post October then, obviously this was an incredibly significant

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Speaker 2: foreign policy story, story about the nature of humanity and

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Speaker 2: our commitments to humanity, story of the world superpower, just

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Speaker 2: green lighting unimaginable atrocities. And it also ended up being

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Speaker 2: an election story as well, since this became an important

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Speaker 2: part of the disaffection with the Democratic Party, with Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris in particular. But in any case, we've pulled a

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Speaker 2: few clips of some of the things that you guys

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Speaker 2: really responded to from our coverage, talking specifically about some

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Speaker 2: of the cultural figures and their reactions. So let's take

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Speaker 2: a listen to that, starting with one of those Peers

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Speaker 2: Morgan appearances from me, I can listen.

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Speaker 14: I believe fundamentally in the right to free democratic protest.

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Speaker 14: I mean, it's the bedrock of any free democratic country.

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Speaker 14: But I don't believe in violent hate rhetoric. And if

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Speaker 14: you're a Jewish student at one of these colleges hearing

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Speaker 14: some of these chants, which we're all hearing, it's pretty terrifying.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's what I would say.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I echo Wajahat and saying I'm glad

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Speaker 2: that both of our two co panelists are okay, and

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Speaker 2: I certainly support the call for justice for Joseph, and

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Speaker 2: I hope his assailant is in fact apprehended and accountability

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Speaker 2: is meted out. I think it's disgusting and frankly a

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Speaker 2: cheap trick to use some isolated incidents to smear an

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Speaker 2: entire protest movement. And I think it's very clear what's

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Speaker 2: going on here. You know, a majority of young people

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Speaker 2: and a majority of college students, majority of Biden voters

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Speaker 2: believe that Israel is committing a genocide and that American

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Speaker 2: taxpayer dollars are going to assist in that genocide. They're

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Speaker 2: outraged by that, and they're protesting.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, the.

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Speaker 1: Jews and Arabs, you are clearly you must Jews, Am

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Speaker 1: I going to be glad to be here?

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Speaker 3: Am I going to be allowed to speak here? So

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Speaker 3: a majority of.

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Speaker 2: Israel is committing a genocide and they are protesting that.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, they've won the argument.

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Speaker 2: If you look at now, it's sixty forty against sending

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Speaker 2: military aid to Israel. It's a majority that disapprove in

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Speaker 2: America of Israel's action with regards to the Gaza Strip.

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Speaker 2: So it's a chief trick as old as time, use

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Speaker 2: a few isolated incidents to try to smear an entire movement,

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Speaker 2: which has the benefit number one of attempting to delegitimize

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Speaker 2: it and number two of distracting from the continued atrocities

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Speaker 2: which are unfolding at the hands of the IDF in

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Speaker 2: the Gaza Strip. So this is listen, I condemn anti Semitism,

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Speaker 2: I certainly condemn violence, but let's be serious about who

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Speaker 2: the villains are right.

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Speaker 1: Now, would you agree that hamas of the hang on

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Speaker 1: I've asked you question, would you agree? Of course the.

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Speaker 2: Terrorists and so is the Israeli government, given the number

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Speaker 2: of civilians that they have intentionally targeted and killed, including

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Speaker 2: targeting with a complete siege which has triggered a famine. So,

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Speaker 2: first of all, intafada means uprising from the river to

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Speaker 2: the sea. Somehow, when it's you know, Benjamin Yahoo using

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Speaker 2: that phraseology or holding up a map that literally shows Israel.

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Speaker 3: From the river to the sea, can you please, dude,

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Speaker 3: just for a second, okay, what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: Israel's assault on Gaza continues endlessly, seemingly no end in sight.

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Speaker 2: The U s wimply looks on, makes some meaningless disgruntled

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Speaker 2: noises from time to time.

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Speaker 3: Some superpower we are.

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Speaker 2: The ICJ ordered Israel to stop its genocidal attacks to

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Speaker 2: no avail. The icy Sees threatened the rest warrants, while

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Speaker 2: they have failed to materialize as of yet, and we

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Speaker 2: all wait with baited breath to see if Ron's retaliation

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Speaker 2: in response to Israel's provocation will plunge the whole region

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Speaker 2: into an even bigger and much more deadly war. It

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Speaker 2: often feels like the Israeli state can just act with impunity,

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Speaker 2: raining terror down on a trapped population with no one

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Speaker 2: and nothing able or willing to stop them. But just

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Speaker 2: below the surface, a doom spiral for the Israeli state

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Speaker 2: may already have been set into motion, a mounting economic

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Speaker 2: calamity that threatens to collapse the state entirely. The BDS movement,

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Speaker 2: in their wildest dreams, could never have imagined the economic

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Speaker 2: toll that the Israeli state is basically inflicting on itself

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Speaker 2: right now as we speak.

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Speaker 3: So here are the details.

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Speaker 2: Mando Wise compiled what data is available on the Israeli economy,

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Speaker 2: and the picture is really quite dire. Quote, over forty

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Speaker 2: six thousand businesses have gone bankrupt, tourism has stopped, Israel's

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Speaker 2: credit rating was lowered, Israeli bonds are sold at the

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Speaker 2: prices of almost junk bond levels, and the foreign investments

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Speaker 2: that have already dropped by sixty percent in the first

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Speaker 2: quarter of twenty twenty three as a result of the

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Speaker 2: policies of Israel's far right government before October seventh, show

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Speaker 2: no prospects of recovery. The majority of the money invested

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Speaker 2: in Israeli investment funds was diverted to investments abroad because

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Speaker 2: Israelis do not want their own pension funds and insurance funds,

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Speaker 2: or their own savings to be tied to the fate

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Speaker 2: of the State of Israel. Now, those business closures, they

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Speaker 2: may actually just be the beginning. An estimate cited by

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Speaker 2: the Times of Israel found that up to sixty thousand

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Speaker 2: businesses might close before twenty twenty four is over. This

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Speaker 2: is a greater impact than the COVID pandemic shutdown, and

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Speaker 2: would only be exacerbated by an expanded war with Hesbolah

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Speaker 2: and with Iran, the impacts of which frankly, would be unfathomable.

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Speaker 2: Just think about the realities right now though, for the

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Speaker 2: Israeli economy, Israeli workers have been called up to participate

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Speaker 2: in the Gaza annihilation, under cutting the country's much celebrated

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Speaker 2: tech sector. Another key sector, tourism, has completely dried up.

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Speaker 2: Construction is at a standstill because the Palace means that

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01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 2: Israel relies on as keep labour force have been banned

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Speaker 2: from coming to work outside of the occupied territories. Israeli

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Speaker 2: attempts to import foreign workers as a new source of

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Speaker 2: cheap labor have been largely unsuccessful. Turkey has announced a

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Speaker 2: ban on exports to Israel, further crippling the construction industry,

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Speaker 2: and efforts to import from other nations are hampered by

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Speaker 2: the efforts of the Huthis to block shipping into Israeli ports.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty thousand Israelis continue to be internally

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Speaker 2: displaced as a result of the tit for tat war

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Speaker 2: with HESBLA, and panic is set in as Iran threatens

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Speaker 2: a large response to the assassination of Ismaelhania that occurred

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Speaker 2: on their soil.

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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps the biggest body blow, however, was Intel pulling out

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Speaker 2: of a planned twenty five billion dollar investment in the

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Speaker 2: state of Israel, an indication that capital is engaged in

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Speaker 2: their own self interested bds weighing the ever risking risks,

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Speaker 2: ever rising risks of operating in Israel to be greater

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Speaker 2: than the benefits. Even more trouble though, could be ahead

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Speaker 2: here again Ismando Weiss. Israel's power gred, which has largely

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Speaker 2: switched to natural gas, still depends on coal to supply demand.

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Speaker 2: The biggest supplier of col to Israel is Columbia, which

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Speaker 2: announced that it would suspend cul shipments to Israel as

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Speaker 2: long as the genocide was ongoing. After Colombia, the next

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Speaker 2: two biggest suppliers are South Africa and Russia. Without reliable

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Speaker 2: and continuous electricity, Israel will no longer be able to

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Speaker 2: pretend to be a developed economy. So while the US

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Speaker 2: will apparently never cut Israel off of literally anything, including

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Speaker 2: the two thousand pound bombs that they used to drop

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Speaker 2: on schools where displaced children are sheltering, the rest of

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Speaker 2: the world apparently not so keen to continue doing business

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Speaker 2: with this terrorist regime. There's another dynamic that's a little

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Speaker 2: harder to quantify here, though it came up in our

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Speaker 2: recent interview with an Israeli Zionist analyst, Isiel ben Ephraim,

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Speaker 2: who we brought in to discuss the right wing riots

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Speaker 2: that broke down in Israel to protect the right of

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Speaker 2: Israeli soldiers to rape and torture Palestinian detainees. I asked

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Speaker 2: Iel what this trend meant for the future of Israel

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Speaker 2: if they continued to drift towards lawlessness and a state

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Speaker 2: governed overtly by Jewish supremacy. I was frankly a little

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Speaker 2: bit shocked by his response.

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Speaker 12: I think there's going to be a lot of people

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Speaker 12: in Israel who, if this continues to be the kind

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Speaker 12: of government that they have in the long term, will

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Speaker 12: leave and those will be the most productive members of society.

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Speaker 12: Those will be the high tech leaders, those will be

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Speaker 12: the professors, those will be the literati, and so on

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Speaker 12: and so forth, which is something that I think the

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Speaker 12: extreme right and Israel wants because that will help them

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Speaker 12: run the country better. And there's an attempt to dismantle

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Speaker 12: the Israeli judicial system because that's the one check in

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Speaker 12: balance the Israeli system has against this kind of power.

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Speaker 12: So right now, Israel, similar to a lot of other

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Speaker 12: countries in the West, the United States as an example,

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Speaker 12: is having a battle for its soul. And I think

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Speaker 12: if the liberal democratic forces in Israel lose, Israel will

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Speaker 12: be lost. It's not going to be able to survive

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Speaker 12: if it doesn't have allies in the world, and it's

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Speaker 12: going to be sanctioned by everyone, treated like a pariah state.

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Speaker 12: That liberal part of the country is what kept Israel's

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Speaker 12: part of the international community, and what kept it allied

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Speaker 12: with the United States, and what kept it as a

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Speaker 12: big trade partner for the EU, and if Israel loses that,

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Speaker 12: it's not going to be able to survive. The extreme

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Speaker 12: right fringe and the fundamentalists aren't going to be able

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Speaker 12: to support the Israeli economy, aren't going to be able

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Speaker 12: to support as very society, not in the long term.

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Speaker 12: Many don't serve in the army. It's a disaster for

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Speaker 12: Israel if these people take over, and this is a

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Speaker 12: step towards taking over, like make no mistake, they're hindering

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Speaker 12: the functioning of the state. If they completely take over,

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Speaker 12: the State of Israel will not exist in the long term.

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Speaker 12: And I don't think I think that's quite a possible outcome.

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Speaker 2: So Chayelle alludes there to the fact that the most

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Speaker 2: conservative ultra orthodox members of Israeli society are increasingly represented

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Speaker 2: in terms of governing ideology, but don't actually contribute too

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Speaker 2: much to society. They tend to have large families, rely

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Speaker 2: on government welfare, and receive a religious exemption from military service.

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Speaker 2: The number supporting this dynamic, we're already getting kind of dicey,

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Speaker 2: because this group has much higher birth rates than more

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Speaker 2: secular Israeli Jews. If you see a significant brain drain

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Speaker 2: due to unending war and overt fascism. According to Shaiel Quote,

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Speaker 2: the state of Israel will not exist in the long term.

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Speaker 2: Bolstering this point, Mondo West quoted and Israeli economists professor

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Speaker 2: Dan Ben Davide as saying that the Israeli economy is

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Speaker 2: held together by three hundred thousand people, the senior staff

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Speaker 2: and universities, tech companies, and hospitals. Once a significant portion

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Speaker 2: of those people leaves, he says, we won't become a

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Speaker 2: third world country.

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Speaker 3: We just won't be anymore.

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Speaker 2: Has this exodus already begun difficult to say, and frankly,

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Speaker 2: some of the.

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Speaker 3: Data is really conflicting.

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Speaker 2: But according to the Times of Israel, Israelis have already

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Speaker 2: begun leaving the country prior to October seventh due to

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Speaker 2: the net Nyahu government's extremism and attacks on the judiciary,

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Speaker 2: which had led to a large protest movement for more

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Speaker 2: secular elements of society. That outflow accelerated after October seventh,

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Speaker 2: leading to about forty two thousand permanent departures from November

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Speaker 2: through March of twenty twenty four. Can only imagine what

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Speaker 2: an all out worth Husbland and or Iran could do

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Speaker 2: to those numbers in a country where a significant minority

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Speaker 2: of the population hold multiple passports. By enabling the worst

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Speaker 2: of Israeli atrocities and excesses, self proclaimed Zionist Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: may have unintentionally helped to galvanize a force that could

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Speaker 2: actually destroy the Israeli state. We may be watching in

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Speaker 2: real time as Israel collapses under the weight of its

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Speaker 2: own internal divides, capitals, aversion to risk, and the world's

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Speaker 2: revulsion to apartheid and genocide.

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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, there's been some extraordinary news that has gone

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Speaker 1: ahead and happened tonight. The Islamic Republic of Iran has

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Speaker 1: launched retaliatory air strikes on Israel. As we speak, literally

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Speaker 1: right now, Shahid style drones. Hundreds are raining down upon Israel,

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Speaker 1: being intercepted at least some by air raids. There has

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Speaker 1: been sirens all across air defense systems are firing. We

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Speaker 1: have some video that I'm going to go ahead and

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Speaker 1: play for everybody right now, and I'll continue to talk

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Speaker 1: over it. So what you guys can see in front

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Speaker 1: of you, this is video that has been put out

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Speaker 1: by the Israeli media and as well as the Israeli government,

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Speaker 1: so we feel comfortable sharing it with you. At the

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Speaker 1: very least, what we could say is they claim that

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Speaker 1: this is what is happening above their skies. This has

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Speaker 1: now come this extraordinary moment after a dizzying last few hours.

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Speaker 1: Some indications happened earlier today. President Biden was at his

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Speaker 1: vacation house in Rehobd Beach in Delaware. He flew back

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Speaker 1: for an emergency meeting of his National Security Council. Almost

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Speaker 1: immediately after he returned to the White House, the news

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Speaker 1: became official and they put out a statement. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to go ahead and share that statement with all of

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Speaker 1: you right now. Here's what we had and this is

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Speaker 1: what's given to us. A few hours ago from the

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Speaker 1: White House, they say Iran has begun an airborne attack

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Speaker 1: against Israel. President Biden is being regularly updated on the situation.

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Speaker 1: Here's the key line. President Biden has been clear. Our

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Speaker 1: support for Israel's security is ironclad. The United States will

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Speaker 1: stand with the people of Israel and will support their

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Speaker 1: defense against these threats from Iran. What is very also

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Speaker 1: important that everybody takes into mind here is this that

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and show everyone the United

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Speaker 1: States actually is engaging in shooting down some of these

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Speaker 1: drones over either Iraqi or Syrian or Jordanian airspace. Here

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Speaker 1: is the key message, just from a US defense official.

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Speaker 1: In accordance with our Ironcloud commitment to israel security, US

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Speaker 1: forces in the region continue to shoot down Iranian launch

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Speaker 1: drones targeting Israel. Our forces remain postured to provide additional

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01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: defensive support and to protect US forces operating in the region.

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Speaker 1: So there you have it. The United States is now

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Speaker 1: officially engaged on Israel's behalf shooting down these drones. Not

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Speaker 1: the first time, remember that we fired against who the

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Speaker 1: ballistic missiles which are headed towards Israel, but extraordinary nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: because the US has now officially entered this war in

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Speaker 1: terms of Israel's defense, the big question is what is

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Speaker 1: going to happen next. Now, what is very important for

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01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: everybody to know is that this message that came out

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Speaker 1: from the Iranians, that actually happened after the strikes became official.

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Speaker 1: So I have it here in front of me. This

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Speaker 1: is from the Permanent Mission of Iran to the United Nations.

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Speaker 1: Here's what they say. Iran's military action was in response

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Speaker 1: to the Zionist regimes aggression against our diplomatic premisses in Damascus.

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Speaker 1: This matter can now deemed concluded. Let's spend some time

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01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: on that. That's very important. The matter can now be

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01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: deemed concluded. However, should the Israeli regime make another mistake,

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01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: Iran's response will be considerably more severe. It is a

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01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: conflict between Iran and the rogue Israeli regime from which

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01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: the US must stay away. So let's pay very close

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01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: attention to that. The Iranians are saying, this is our

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01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: response to you bombing our embassy in Damascus, where an

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01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: IRGC commander was killed. They're making clear America stay out

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01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: of this now. Already that line has been crossed. But

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01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: what they're saying is if we ended here, then that's it.

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01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: But we are now receiving news that is actually coming

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Speaker 1: out of Israel. Keep in mind that it is the

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Speaker 1: middle of the night over here, but I'm sharing here

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Speaker 1: a senior is Really official. This is from Israeli media.

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01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: They are saying from a senior Israel official pledging an

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01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: unprecedented response to Iran's attack and urges Israelis not to

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01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: go to bed due to what is coming Iran's way.

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01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: So this is a very very dangerous moment for the

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01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: world everybody. I mean, just to do a little bit

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01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 1: of analysis here, the Iranian response clearly was calibrated to

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01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: give a ton of heads up to the US and

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01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 1: to Israel. It took hours for those drones to fly.

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01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: They could have used cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, and much

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01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 1: more destructive technology. This is a show of force on

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01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: their behalf. But also it was calibrated as they put

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01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: in their message, and it was one where they knew

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01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: that the vast majority of the drones would be intercepted

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Speaker 1: by their air defense systems. This wasn't really calibrated to

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01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: be like a major and a stunning attack. They had

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01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: a ton of heads up. Question now right doesn't end here?

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01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: Or now are we on the escalation ladder? The United

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01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: States military is now involved in this. We are shooting

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01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: down drones on Israel's behalf. The Israeli military, Now are

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01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: they going to engage militarily directly against Iran? This is

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Speaker 1: would be unprecedented in terms of what is happening, and

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Speaker 1: I deeply fear that this is the exact nightmare scenario

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01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: that we've all been waiting for since October seventh, you know,

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01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,879
Speaker 1: it's been exactly almost six months now since the conflict.

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01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: But really what we all saw when Israel struck that

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01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: embassy in Damascus is that entered a new kind of

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01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,799
Speaker 1: phase of the conflict, and it entered a big decision

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01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: matrix that we talked about with doctor Tree de Parsi

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01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: on the show, and I know that Krystal and Emily

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01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: talked about this as well. What is Iran's response going

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01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: to be? Nobody knew and now we do know. And

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01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: now the question is is how is the West going

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01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: to respond to this? How is the US going to

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01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: respond to this? How is Israel going to respond to this?

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Speaker 1: If Israel responds with overwhelming force and they directly Reich

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01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 1: targets in Iran, Tehran, for example, well it is almost

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01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: certain now at this point that the United States would

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01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: be involved in this, given the fact that we literally

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01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: shot down some of these drones and the military is

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01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: now engaged here. The big question, and this is where

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Speaker 1: my heart goes out to every US service member family

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01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 1: and serving in the Middle East right now, is that

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01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: we have tens of thousands of service members who are

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01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: all across the Middle East, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, as we

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01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: all found out when three of our service members were

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01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: killed bah Rain. We have the US Navy, the fifth

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01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: Fleet warships have been flooding into the Persian Gulf apparently

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01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: over the last twenty four to forty eight hours. What's

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01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: even more extraordinaries that the US Military Central Command commander

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01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 1: was on the ground in Israel when the news broke

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01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: that the Iranian drones were coming. Apparently the general has departed.

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01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: But just to give you an idea of how deeply

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01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 1: involved the US military is here in the response.

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Speaker 2: Let's transition into what mister Rogan is thinking about this conflict,

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01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: because you know, to the point of whether the views

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01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 2: of these college students are extreme or mainstream. At this point,

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01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 2: when you have a majority of Joe Biden motor saying

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Speaker 2: this is a genocide, when you have the International Criminal

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01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 2: Court of Justice saying that's plausible, when you have a

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Speaker 2: new UN report saying there's reasonable grounds to believe, and

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01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 2: now you can add, oh, you have Alex Jones saying

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01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 2: it's a genist I believe. Candie Owens has said similar things.

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01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 2: AOC has now come out and said the same. You

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Speaker 2: can add to that growing list of voices Joe Rogan,

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01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 2: who made some very interesting comments on his podcast Let's

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Speaker 2: take a listen.

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Speaker 16: Even in the right, Like look what's going on with

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01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 16: Candae Owans and Ben Shapiro, Like what did she say?

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01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 16: I want to know what she was fired for?

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01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 5: Because was it.

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Speaker 16: Criticism of Israel?

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01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 16: I mean, did she show that Edward Snowden video that

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Speaker 16: he put up on Twitter that shows them maybe Drome

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01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 16: bombing those kids? That are those men, I should say,

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Speaker 16: unarmed people that were walking towards the rubble that clearly

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Speaker 16: weren't causing any danger to anybody. Yeah, just bombed them.

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Speaker 1: It's your duty.

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Speaker 5: It's just like for Biden or whoever you like, you

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01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 5: is supposed to cover up for them because you things.

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01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 16: Like they're always saying they're only targeting Hamas and everybody

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01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 16: else is a casualty. Well, if those guys are just

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01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 16: unarmed civilians and they're walking alone, that's what they appear

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01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 16: to be, Dresden, and you just blast them from the

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Speaker 16: sky with robots.

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Speaker 3: This is the tragedy of war.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, this is insane and no one knows what to

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01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 16: think now because if you can't talk about that. If

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01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 16: you can't say that's real, then you're saying that genocide

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01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 16: is okay as long as we're doing.

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Speaker 5: It, and that is what we're saying.

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Speaker 16: And if you're saying that from a perspective of someone

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01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 16: who literally went through the Holocaust or your your people,

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01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,959
Speaker 16: your tribe went through the fucking Holocaust, and now you're willing.

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Speaker 3: To do it, I hope the irony is not lost

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01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 3: on you.

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01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 5: It's so nuts.

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01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 16: It's so hard to imagine that someone where a culture,

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Speaker 16: like a country was like officially founded in what forty seven,

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01:23:56,040 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 16: forty eight, forty eight, okay, officially founded, So that's so recent.

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01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 16: You guys are willing to do what was done to

1652
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 16: you that led you to believe that you need to

1653
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 16: start your own country. You will only do that, at

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01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 16: least in a small scale in Gaza, like there's nothing left.

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01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 16: If you see the videos, let's let's see some recent

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01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 16: footage of Gaza.

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Speaker 2: So some really pointed the Atlantic would say those comments

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01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 2: were extremist.

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01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 8: Greg greg Abbot would say anti Semitic.

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01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 2: There you got many and apparently Matt Miller would as

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01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 2: well talk about that also in my in my monologue,

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01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,919
Speaker 2: But I mean he really he really goes in apparently

1663
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 2: that video that Al Jazeera obtained, the drone footage of

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01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 2: them striking and killing these four unarmed civilians who are

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01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 2: just walking along in con Unis.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's horrible to watch.

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Speaker 2: We played just a little bit of it, but if

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01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 2: you do watch the whole thing, you know, you see

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01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 2: the initial drone strike, You see one of them at

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01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: least like crawling after being hit initially wounded and then

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01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 2: hit again, and all of them killed. And you know,

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Speaker 2: you can't butt hamas that, you can't oh human shield

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01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: that it's just so naked. And I think one of

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01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: the things that people have reacted to so strongly because

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01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: I've been trying to wrap my head emily around why

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01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 2: this video. This seems to have been the thing for

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01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 2: Alex Jones, that's what he quote tweeted. It seems to

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01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,560
Speaker 2: have been, you know, the thing for Joe Rogan, and

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01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: just judging by the tenor of the commentary and the

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01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: SHIV know AOC then comes out shortly thereafter, I also

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01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 2: calls it a genocide. I've been trying to wrap my

1682
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 2: head around what it was about this video because we've

1683
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 2: seen so many horrors play out in front of our eyes.

1684
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 2: And I think it's the fact that all the typical

1685
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 2: justifications are null. You can't, like I said, you can't

1686
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 2: butt hamas it. You can't there's a tunnel there, you can't.

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01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 2: You know, it's anti semitic to say this. All the

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01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 2: normal justifications are they're not human shields are kind of

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01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:56,520
Speaker 2: null and void. And then there's something so nightmarish and terrifying.

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01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 2: Alex Jone's called a robotic mass genocideally about the fact

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01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: that they're walking along totally unawares and then ont of

1692
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:05,879
Speaker 2: the sky.

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01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 3: Boom, it's over. And also the David and Goliath nature

1694
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 3: of that.

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01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 2: I mean, they're unarmed, they have nothing right and everything

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01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 2: around them in the video too, is complete rubble. As

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01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 2: Rogan is saying, right, they look at gods, there's nothing

1698
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 2: left his guests. It's like Dressden. They're completely unarmed, they're

1699
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 2: completely vulnerable. And meanwhile, Israel has this, you know, incredibly

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01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 2: high tech killing technology, and that's what they're up against.

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01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 2: And there's something about that video that marked a real

1702
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: turning point for the way a lot of people were

1703
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 2: viewing this conflict.

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01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 7: So Action's apparently has also been calling Rabbi Schmooley, the

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01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 7: butt plug Rabbi.

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Speaker 3: They had a debate. He did, yes, he did?

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Speaker 8: Okay, good, interesting enough.

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01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 7: Well, the Rogan clip to me is fascinating because he

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01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 7: goes back and says, listen, this is really recent history,

1710
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 7: like the Holocaust is really recent history. The living memory

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01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 7: of many people and the founding of modern Israel comes

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01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 7: in nineteen forty eight. And what also happens there is

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01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 7: and Brandon I talked about this a little bit yesterday,

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01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 7: but the new definitions or the formal international agreement on

1715
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 7: what the definition of genocide is, because basically, the UN

1716
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 7: comes together after World War Two and says we need

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01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 7: to prevent Dresden, we need to prevent the Holocaust.

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01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 8: We need to you know, all of that.

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01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 7: And that Levy memory is also why you know, you

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01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 7: see net Yahoo and other leaders in Israel, and even

1721
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 7: by the way, some well intentioned liberal Israelis feel the

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01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 7: need to turn Gaza into a quote, parking lot, because

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01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 7: those threats remain so ingrained in the minds. And that's

1724
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 7: what Rogan is reacting to and saying it's strange. It's

1725
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 7: a strange like dissonance between you know, saying we want

1726
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 7: to prevent another cost and then seeing the destruction of

1727
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 7: Gaza and calling for the destruction of Gaza, calling for

1728
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,759
Speaker 7: it in the name of stopping another holocaust be turned

1729
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 7: into a parking lot. And I understand, you know why,

1730
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 7: that's why that hits home with people like Joe Rogan.

1731
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 7: I completely understand the perspective of being grossed out by

1732
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 7: the drone attacks and the sort of like it is.

1733
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 8: This is a different kind like since we have since

1734
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 8: World War Two.

1735
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 7: This is a new kind of conflict, and I don't

1736
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 7: think the net and yahoos and the Joe Biden's of

1737
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 7: the world were prepared for how the public was going

1738
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 7: to react to it. It's similar to other conflicts like

1739
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 7: high like urban warfare, but Syria other places, but it's

1740
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 7: it's different, It's completely different. And I think they underestimated

1741
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 7: where the public would be when watching this, because I mean,

1742
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 7: it's just.

1743
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 8: These videos are tough. Let's move on to.

1744
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 7: Bill Burr, who was on Club Random with Bill Maher

1745
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 7: and they obviously why not, got into a conversation about

1746
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 7: the pro Palestinian demonstrations on campuses around the country. Lest

1747
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 7: you think we weren't watching, Aaron Rodgers on Joe rogan

1748
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 7: Or on Tucker Carlson Show yesterday, he did weigh in

1749
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 7: on the Cuba policy of Alan Dulls inaccurately. By the way,

1750
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 7: there was a historic first, I think the first former

1751
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 7: Green Bay Packers quarterback.

1752
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 8: To go after Alan Dulles. Triumph for him.

1753
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 7: So the podcast universe is thriving, and Bill Burr is

1754
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 7: a part of that wonderful ecosystem and Bill Maher.

1755
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 8: This went pretty viral. I think got kind of owned

1756
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 8: by Bill Burr. Here, let's take a watch.

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01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 5: You don't realize that college campus is erupted with the

1758
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 5: kids demonstrating for hamas they are in with the terrorists

1759
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 5: they were for the Palestinians. Well it's sort of the

1760
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 5: same cause.

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01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 12: Why are you.

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01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 5: I'm on the side of the kids. Yeah, that's easy

1763
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 5: to say, you know, no one wants to see kids dead. Uh,

1764
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 5: this is a war. Very brave of you to say

1765
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 5: this is a this is a ward. No, I'm the

1766
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:18,560
Speaker 5: one who's actually brave on this.

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01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: Uh, it'sht yourself on the back.

1768
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 5: Easy to say I'm for the kids. Who's not for

1769
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 5: the kids. Well, it comes down to real hard nosed decisions.

1770
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:28,759
Speaker 1: Like a country.

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01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 5: I'm talking like, you're a general country got attacked. Israel

1772
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 5: got attacked.

1773
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they didn't have a right to

1774
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 1: go back.

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01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 5: I'm just sitting there going like, how do I look

1776
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 5: at well, the only country in the world that they

1777
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 5: get attacked and then as soon as they counterattack, it's like, well,

1778
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 5: we got to stop this ship. Now, don't attack them.

1779
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 5: It's a very simple solution to all this problem in

1780
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 5: the Middle East. Stop attacking Israel.

1781
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,839
Speaker 15: You stop attacking Israel, which I actually think that's fantastic. Anyway,

1782
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 15: all right, we don't need to get Let's let's go

1783
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:56,799
Speaker 15: to Russia and the Ukraine.

1784
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 5: How do you solve that one? Bill?

1785
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 15: Let me hear you're hard knows decision about that. Well,

1786
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 15: let me ask you a question, how is war still legal?

1787
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 15: All the ship that's been canceled legal? Why is that

1788
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 15: still legal?

1789
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 5: Would you like a real answer to that? Because for

1790
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,480
Speaker 5: something to be illegal, you have to have the capacity

1791
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 5: to enforce it, and you can't enforce against war or

1792
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 5: else you have to go to war with the country

1793
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 5: that's going to war, and we don't want to go

1794
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 5: to war with Russia over Ukraine. What would be the

1795
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 5: sense of making it illegal? That's really going to stop Putin. No,

1796
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,560
Speaker 5: to stop people from going to war, you have to

1797
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 5: also put sit down and talk it out.

1798
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 15: Why can't Putin do a podcast with the head guy

1799
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 15: like you just solve the Middle East on a podcast.

1800
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 15: Why can't they solve what they're doing on a podcast?

1801
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 5: Why this is not yours? Makes some hard nic your thing?

1802
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 1: It's what you isn't It.

1803
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,719
Speaker 15: Isn't You're like that guy that has a fantasy football

1804
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 15: team and thinks he's a fucking GM.

1805
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 5: No, that's exactly what it is.

1806
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: Like, Why am I fucking sing to you like like

1807
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: you've done something? What have you done in Washington?

1808
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 5: Nothing?

1809
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 4: That is a great point. Bill mar said, this is

1810
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 4: my thing, that's your thing? Just getting highe like mouthing off.

1811
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 8: I was usaying, yes, which is really your thing.

1812
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 1: But it would be like me saying that I'm some

1813
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: expert on this. It's absolutely ridiculous.

1814
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 7: I mean, you you regularly have covered that, you've been there,

1815
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 7: You've interviewed people.

1816
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:26,640
Speaker 1: It qualifies.

1817
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,919
Speaker 7: But I feel like Bill Maher here really has celebrity

1818
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 7: syndrome where he doesn't realize how poorly he's coming across.

1819
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 7: When he's sort of like in this very patronizing way,

1820
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 7: like verbally patting Bill Burr on the head and saying, this.

1821
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: Is I got this.

1822
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 8: Don't worry about it. My thing.

1823
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,600
Speaker 7: Your opinion counts as less because.

1824
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 8: I'm a talk show host.

1825
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 4: There was an interesting window into his in Bill Maher's

1826
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 4: mind for a moment there where Bill Burr says, I'm

1827
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 4: with the kids. Bill Maher had just said, the kids

1828
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 4: are some porting you know, amas or whatever, and they're protesting.

1829
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 1: He was Bill Burr was referring to the college kids. Yeah,

1830
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 1: because Bill had just said the kids.

1831
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 4: Bill Maher's mind, in his mind, he thinks he's saying

1832
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 4: that I'm with the kids who are being slaughtered by Israel.

1833
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:21,600
Speaker 8: That's what I Yeah, that's how I interpreted to it.

1834
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 4: Bill Maher's mind went to the kids being slaughtered and

1835
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 4: then said, I'm the courageous one because I'm okay with

1836
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 4: the kids being slaughtered because I understand in a hard

1837
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 4: headed world that there is no other choice than slaughtering

1838
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 4: all these kids.

1839
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 1: Was fascinating and it's really high.

1840
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 4: Well yeah, clearly, but that's a window into like I mean,

1841
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 4: he's high most of the time, so that's that it's

1842
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 4: like a philosophical question about which Bill maher mind exists.

1843
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 4: And I would say, if you're high more than half

1844
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 4: the time, then it's the it's the high one.

1845
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 7: I also found that interesting because he was they were

1846
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 7: in a conversation directly about the kids on college campuses.

1847
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 7: They had both used the word kids in relation to

1848
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 7: the kids on college campuses. And as soon as Bill

1849
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 7: Burr said that, Bill Mahert like the switch flipped and

1850
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 7: he jumped on Bill Burr from oh, you say you're

1851
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 7: with the Palestinian children. But Bill Burr then going back

1852
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 7: and just driving the knife further with that last comment

1853
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 7: about what have you done in Washington?

1854
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, why am I listening to you? It is a

1855
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,719
Speaker 4: very good question, Like why on earth? I mean, because

1856
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 4: it's funny. I guess to watch these two people hopefully,

1857
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 4: but yeah, like him pretending like he has him saying

1858
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 4: like this is my thing and it's not yours.

1859
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:42,719
Speaker 1: Get out of here. As usual, Bill Burr always interesting,

1860
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan. People always love to see them sound off

1861
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: in cultural ways. If we also think to some of

1862
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: the crazy domestic stories. You know, a lot of these

1863
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: go in and out, But one that has stuck with

1864
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: me was this one, the Boeing whistleblower. We actually talked

1865
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: about it even on the day that we're filming this,

1866
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 1: because we just covered this story about the open AI

1867
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: whistle blower, and you know, you were like, well, do

1868
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 1: you really think they whacked him? And I was like, look,

1869
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: if you asked me five years ago, would Boeing whack somebody,

1870
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 1: It's say you're crazy. But nowadays I'm like, well, look

1871
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: at the body of evidence, look at where things are

1872
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 1: for you know, in terms of what the stakes are,

1873
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 1: the billions of dollars at stakes and all these other things.

1874
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 1: So my mind is much more open than it used

1875
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:23,560
Speaker 1: to be.

1876
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 2: For the lawyers out there going denies all wrongdoing as

1877
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 2: Open AI, I'm.

1878
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: Sure your speculation on my part it is.

1879
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 2: It is crazy though, because the public basically just generally accepted, like, oh,

1880
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 2: Boeing killed these people, and there were multiple too whistle blowing.

1881
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: There were a lot a lot of people who think that.

1882
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 3: There many people think that.

1883
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 2: And again for the lawyers, Boeing dize responsibility, but many

1884
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 2: people believe that, and it's crazy that we live in

1885
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 2: a society where that just happens. And it's like, yeah,

1886
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 2: corporate corporations killing people are convenient, maybe a thing, all right,

1887
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 2: I guess we're going to go on about our business.

1888
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 2: So I do think it was an extraordinary moment, one

1889
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 2: that certainly you all know were quite interested in, quite

1890
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,680
Speaker 2: disturbed by. And so here was a little bit of

1891
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 2: our coverage as we were uncovering those details.

1892
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 1: Been wanting to cover this story for quite some time,

1893
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 1: and then some shocking, shocking news broke yesterday. Let's put

1894
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 1: this up there on the screen. A Boeing whistleblower was

1895
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 1: actually found dead here in the United States in what

1896
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:29,600
Speaker 1: is being claimed is an apparent suicide. John Barnett. He

1897
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 1: had previously worked for Boeing for thirty two years. He

1898
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: retired in twenty seventeen and since then has spent his

1899
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: life being a whistleblower against the Boeing corporation. In fact,

1900
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 1: in the days before his death, he was giving evidence

1901
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 1: in this lawsuit against the company. He was actually found

1902
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 1: dead in Charleston. The real thing that mister Barnett had

1903
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 1: been whistleblowing about is that he previously worked as a

1904
01:36:55,160 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 1: seven eighty seven Dreamliner quality manager at the North Charge

1905
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 1: Earlston plant, and he had specifically told BBC and other

1906
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 1: outlets that under pressure, workers had been deliberately fitting substandard

1907
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 1: parts to aircraft on the production line, and he also

1908
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 1: said he had uncovered serious problems with their oxygen systems,

1909
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: meaning that only one in four breathing mass would not

1910
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 1: work in an emergency. So soon after then starting work

1911
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 1: at that South Carolina company, became very concerned, eventually concerned

1912
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:26,640
Speaker 1: enough to leave and to cooperate with law enforcement, with

1913
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 1: federal whistleblowers. He was an integral part actually of the

1914
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 1: FAS examination back in twenty nineteen of the problems that

1915
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: were happening over at Boeing, and was giving testimony in

1916
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 1: their most recent investigation into what the hell happened with

1917
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 1: Alaska Airlines. In the days before his death, he actually

1918
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 1: gave an interview to TMZ with some pretty shocking claims.

1919
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

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01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 11: One, this is not a seven three seven problem.

1921
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 16: It's a bowling problem.

1922
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 11: And I know thefa's going in and they've done due

1923
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 11: diligence AND's inspections to assure that the door clogs of

1924
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 11: the seventh three seven are installed properly and the fasteners

1925
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 11: of door properly. But my concern is what's the rest

1926
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 11: of the airplane. What's the rest of condition of the airplane?

1927
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 11: And the reason my concern for that is back in

1928
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 11: twenty twelve, Going started removing inspection operations off their jobs,

1929
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 11: so it left the mechanics to buy off their own work.

1930
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 11: So what we're seeing with the door plug blowout is

1931
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 11: what I've seen with the rest of the airplane, as

1932
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 11: far as jobs not being completed properly, inspection of steps

1933
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 11: being removed, issues being ignored. My concerns are with the

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01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 11: seven three seven and the seven eighty seven because those

1935
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:50,560
Speaker 11: programs have really embraced the theory that quality is overhead

1936
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 11: and non value added.

1937
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Speaker 5: Well.

1938
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Speaker 12: I'd taken a team of four.

1939
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Speaker 11: Inspectors Spirit Aerosystems to inspect the forty one section before

1940
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:01,520
Speaker 11: they sent it to Charleston. We found three hundred defects,

1941
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 11: some of them were significant that needed engineering intervention. When

1942
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Speaker 11: I returned to Charleston, my senior manager told me that

1943
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 11: we had found too many defects and he was going

1944
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 11: to take the next trip. So the next trip he

1945
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 11: went on, he took two of my inspectors and when

1946
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 11: they got back they were given accolades for only finding

1947
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Speaker 11: fifty defects. So I pulled that inspector aside, and I said,

1948
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 11: did Spirit really clean up their act that quick? That

1949
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 11: don't sound right.

1950
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they certainly didn't. And in fact, just yesterday, Crystal,

1951
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 1: there was a new report from the FAA that they

1952
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: caught Spirit Aero Systems Mechanics using liquid don Dish soap

1953
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: as lubricant for that seven thirty seven max door seal

1954
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: instead of you know, the properts liberty livert is to use.

1955
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 1: That's how they're cutting costs over there in Boeing, and

1956
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 1: that's why, I mean, there's been a lot of suspicion

1957
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: around mister Barnett's debt because you can see he was

1958
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: pulling no punches and this isn't This is potentially a

1959
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 1: catastrophic event for Boeing. Boeing is most important aviation company

1960
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 1: in the United States, arguably in all of the West,

1961
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: huge military supply contractor, etc. They are now facing a

1962
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 1: Justice Department investigation, criminal investigation, that's right in this matter.

1963
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 1: And you know, Alaska really took every It took the

1964
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 1: whole I think out of everybody's eyes on what's going

1965
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 1: on with this company and how deep the rot really

1966
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 1: goes inside.

1967
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

1968
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Speaker 2: There's also news this morning that a six week audit

1969
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 2: by the FAA of Boeing's production of the seven thirty

1970
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 2: seven max Jet found dozens of problems throughout the manufacturing process.

1971
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 2: According to a slide presentation that The New York Times

1972
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 2: was able to review, they initiated the examination after that

1973
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,640
Speaker 2: door panel flew off. The agency announced the audit had

1974
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 2: found multiple instances in which Boeing and the supplier Spirit

1975
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 2: Aerosystems failed to comply with quality control requirements, including the

1976
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:54,799
Speaker 2: company had failed thirty three of eighty nine audits during

1977
01:40:55,400 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 2: that examination conducted by the FAA. And just speak to

1978
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 2: the claims that this whistleblower was in the middle of

1979
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 2: making when he was found dead in his vehicle in

1980
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 2: a parking lot, some of these claims had really been

1981
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 2: backed up by evidence, According to the BBC. Boeing of

1982
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 2: course denied all his assertions. We should put that out there.

1983
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 2: But in twenty seventeen they did a review by the

1984
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 2: FAA and it did uphold some of his concerns. It

1985
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 2: established the location of at least fifty three non conforming

1986
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 2: parts in the factory was unknown and were considered lost.

1987
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 3: Boeing was ordered to take remedial action.

1988
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,759
Speaker 2: That's relevant because he had said that they were pulling

1989
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 2: parts out of the scrap heap that had been rejected

1990
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 2: as non conforming and using them to save time and

1991
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 2: cut costs, etc. So the fact that these non conforming

1992
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:47,839
Speaker 2: parts were missing were indicative of his story being accurate.

1993
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 2: On the oxygen cylinders issue, the company said in twenty

1994
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 2: seventeen it had identified some oxygen bottles received from the

1995
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 2: supplier that were not deployed properly, but denied that any

1996
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 2: of them were actually fitted on the aircraft. Of course,

1997
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 2: he had indicated that as many as one in four

1998
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 2: oxygen masks were unlikely to deploy because they were defective

1999
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 2: upon testing. So yeah, the fact that he was in

2000
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 2: the middle of making these complaints, making his voice heard,

2001
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 2: and is found dead is.

2002
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Speaker 3: Extraordinary.

2003
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really suspicious. And again, let's put this up there.

2004
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Speaker 1: This is just days after that. The US Justice Department

2005
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 1: is now opening a criminal inquiry into Boeing. This is

2006
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 1: tied to the Alaska Airlines incident specifically. Boeing also said

2007
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 1: told a Senate panel it cannot find record of the

2008
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 1: work done on the Alaska plane. Really interesting, can't find

2009
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 1: any record, and I just want to take it back

2010
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 1: to all of the I want to take it back

2011
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:47,719
Speaker 1: to the rot of this company because spirit Aero Systems

2012
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 1: used to be a part of Boeing and it was

2013
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 1: sold off by Boeing in the pursuit of shareholderism and

2014
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 1: of profit. So now what's happening now as they understand

2015
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:57,680
Speaker 1: that they're in deep shit. Boeing is now trying to

2016
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 1: rebuy spirit Ero Systems and they're in a major crisis

2017
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 1: of the company because they're facing a Justice Department investigation.

2018
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 1: And I mean, the craziest part of all of this

2019
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 1: is that not even a few years ago, they were

2020
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:14,639
Speaker 1: found liable and nearly faced a murder prosecution for killing

2021
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 1: somewhat several hundred people in a faulty software update. All

2022
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 1: of the fixes we're supposed to have been put in

2023
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 1: place on a new CEO, new corporate practices. But this

2024
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 1: tells you, like, it's not the new CEO problem, it's

2025
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,799
Speaker 1: that the company doesn't know how to build an airplane anymore.

2026
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 1: And that can't get over it because this is the

2027
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: backbone of US manufacturing, high tech manufacturing specifically, it's one

2028
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 1: of the pride and joys of the US economy and

2029
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 1: as usual you know, over the last seventy seventy or

2030
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Speaker 1: forty thirty forty years now, so it's the nineteen seventies.

2031
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 1: It turns out that it's all just a financial fakery.

2032
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 1: They hired Nikki Haley on the board, buying back to

2033
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 1: pretends of billions of dollars worth of their own stock.

2034
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 1: The stock is doing great, you know before this, even

2035
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 1: after the you know, crazy incident, that's all they cared about.

2036
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 1: They never cared about this. And then it all just

2037
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 1: comes to head when a freaking door plug blows out

2038
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 1: of the middle of the airplane. Lucky that it didn't

2039
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,719
Speaker 1: happen when they were cruising altitude and several people wouldn't

2040
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:13,559
Speaker 1: bit sucked out and killed.

2041
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2042
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:18,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there are two major societal route cause

2043
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 2: trends that led to these terrifying, horrifying and in certain instances,

2044
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 2: deadly mistakes. Number one is, as you're discussing the financialization

2045
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 2: of Boeing, which is something we see across companies, what

2046
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 2: does that mean. It means rather than caring about having

2047
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 2: the best engineers and the best product and making sure

2048
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 2: Dan well sure that it is safe and ready to go,

2049
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 2: Instead they were more focused on catering to the giant

2050
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 2: casino that is Wall Street. So and that is not

2051
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 2: specific to Boeing, but obviously in the instance of Boeing,

2052
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 2: the results are absolutely horrifying. Number two is a widespread

2053
01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 2: trend across democratic and Republican administrations in the neoliberal era

2054
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 2: of defanging regulatory bodies and handing off some of their

2055
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 2: key functions to industry itself. So over successive administrations, including

2056
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 2: some very recent deregulation under the Trump administration, the FAA

2057
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:19,639
Speaker 2: has basically handed off a lot of its key functions

2058
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 2: to relying on companies like Boeing to basically self certify.

2059
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 1: And then finally, there was a lot of talk in

2060
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 1: the selection about brainworms, about people drinking the kool aid,

2061
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 1: about grifts.

2062
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 2: RFK Junior became quite an interesting character, RFK Junior.

2063
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, I guess this was a crazy year

2064
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 1: for RFK Junior, right, probably the biggest year for the

2065
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 1: Kennedy family since when is Ted Kennedy ran against Jimmy Carter.

2066
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 1: So with that, we thought we would end with a

2067
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 1: funny segment, which was the literal brainworm that RFK Junior said.

2068
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,719
Speaker 1: It was said to have suffered, and then he then confirmed,

2069
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 1: which we discussed at the time. It is just so

2070
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 1: funny thinking about it retrospect. Let's take a list speaking

2071
01:45:56,280 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 1: of a wiggling things going around. That was a difficult transition.

2072
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and put this up there on the screen.

2073
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm just going to present this without any comment because

2074
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 1: the details are so crazy. To New York Times and

2075
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 1: according to R. K. Junior himself, the presidential candidate Quote

2076
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 1: had previously faced undisclosed health issues, including a parasite that

2077
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,679
Speaker 1: he had said eight parts of his brain. So back

2078
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 1: in twenty and ten, while he was undergoing a deposition,

2079
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 1: it revealed that RFK Junior Quote was experiencing memory loss

2080
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 1: and mental fogginess so severe that friends grew concerned that

2081
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: he might have a brain tumor. He then consulted many

2082
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 1: of the country's top neurologists who had treated his uncle,

2083
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 1: Ted Kennedy, who discovered and believed that he had a

2084
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 1: dead parasite in his brain literal a dead worm like

2085
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 1: a brainworm. The dead parasite believed to have either been

2086
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 1: contracted through his diet, of which he said, which is

2087
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 1: very heavy in fish, and in tuna, which he said

2088
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 1: was combining with mercury poisoning, and it also just returned

2089
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 1: from a trip to Southeast Asia. But the point is

2090
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 1: that it's a pretty serious, actually health condition that could

2091
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 1: lead to strokes, to seizures and to other things. He

2092
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 1: had said in an interview with The New York Times

2093
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 1: that he eventually did recover from memory loss and fogginess,

2094
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 1: and he has no current after effects of the parasite,

2095
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 1: which he said had not required treatment. Nonetheless, it has

2096
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: not stopped both his opponents and many others for making

2097
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:28,719
Speaker 1: brainworm jokes. So what do you make of this, crystal

2098
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 1: before we get to the actual news. It's just a

2099
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: crazy situation. Yeah.

2100
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 2: The context of this is he was undergoing a deposition.

2101
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 2: He was trying to limit or eliminate the necessity to

2102
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 2: pay alimony. So he was trying to argue, like, I've

2103
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 2: got all these cognitive impairments, mercury poisoning.

2104
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 3: I got this worm in my brain that ate part

2105
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 3: of it.

2106
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 2: He says at one point, I have cognitive issues, clearly,

2107
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 2: which is not a quote that you really want out

2108
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 2: there about yourself as a presidential Canada.

2109
01:47:58,400 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 3: Especially coming out of your mouth.

2110
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 2: When he has gone, he has gone out of his

2111
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 2: way to contrast his you know, he's not a young guy,

2112
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,560
Speaker 2: his relative vigor and fitness. There's the whole you know,

2113
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 2: shirtless push ups whatever, lifting weight.

2114
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 1: Working on jeans is the weird one, man, that's the one.

2115
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 3: I just that's that's a strange time.

2116
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm all about getting jacked, I'm all about that, but

2117
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 1: working out in jeans is just weird.

2118
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2119
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's been a part of you know, what he's

2120
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 2: put forward. And he's clearly like talked a lot about

2121
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:27,840
Speaker 2: health in his campaign and offering himself as you know,

2122
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 2: picture of what this healthy lifestyle could be. So it

2123
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 2: does cut against that those claims when you have this

2124
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 2: on the record, him talking about this brain that ate

2125
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,799
Speaker 2: a portion of his his worm that ate a push.

2126
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 3: Of his brain.

2127
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 2: As the times cognitive issues and mercury poisoning, etcetera. Again

2128
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 2: he says he's covered and wait, listen, we spoke with him.

2129
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 1: See fine, you know, I don't think cognition is his problem.

2130
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 3: I'll say that that's that would be my assessment as well.

2131
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 1: Yes, Junior tweets after the news, I offer to eat

2132
01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: five more brain worms and still beat Present and Biden

2133
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 1: and President Trump and Biden in a debate. I feel

2134
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 1: confident of the result even with a six worm handicap.

2135
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 1: New York Times also accurately pointing out that neither of them,

2136
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 1: Biden nor Trump, have released their medical records and that

2137
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: we don't know very much about their cognition practices either,

2138
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 1: which I think is a very very point. Indeed, there

2139
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:21,639
Speaker 1: was also an interview we wanted to add some medical half,

2140
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 1: so doctor Sanjay Gooped at CNN explain some of the

2141
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 1: background on medically how this is even possible. Here's what

2142
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 1: we had to say.

2143
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Speaker 17: This does happen. I mean, obviously we're just hearing about

2144
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 17: it from RFK himself, but I can tell you as

2145
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 17: an eurosurgeon, this is a rare condition. But it's typically

2146
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:44,679
Speaker 17: something that is caused by eating undercooked pork. And again

2147
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 17: we don't know this for sure, but just based on

2148
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:48,880
Speaker 17: the description that we're hearing, sounds very much like this,

2149
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 17: where you eat under cooked pork and the larvae get

2150
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 17: into your bloodstream and then basically can spread throughout the

2151
01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 17: body and the blood stream they can go to all

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Speaker 17: sorts of different organs, including the brain. Jim, so again

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Speaker 17: it's unusual. Let me show you an image here. This

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Speaker 17: is what it might look like in someone's brain. When

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Speaker 17: you do an MRI scan, you might see these areas

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Speaker 17: and you can see them in purple there, Jim, where

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Speaker 17: they basically look like little cysts essentially in the brain,

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Speaker 17: and that is the porkworm larvae that gets in there.

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Speaker 17: Sometimes it just a sort of sitting there, doesn't cause

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Speaker 17: any kind of problems. Sometimes it can cause other symptoms

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Speaker 17: like headaches or even seizures. And again we don't know

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Speaker 17: specifically what happened with him or if this is actually it,

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Speaker 17: but this does happen a few thousand times a year.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 17: Imagine that image that I just showed you, and you

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Speaker 17: could have these tiny little spots typically on top of

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Speaker 17: the brain or closer to the surface of the brain,

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Speaker 17: and you basically go in and similar to a tumor

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Speaker 17: in a way, you would go in and basically just

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Speaker 17: remove that cyst. They're not usually associated with memory loss,

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Speaker 17: because I think that's what took RFK to the doctors

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Speaker 17: in the first place. Relize and generalize brain fogginess. Typically

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Speaker 17: it's more associated with, if any, symptoms, headaches and seizures

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Speaker 17: and things like that.

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Speaker 1: So that's it.

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Speaker 14: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Guys so much. We love you, Happy holidays, enjoy your

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Speaker 1: time with you their families, and we'll see you all soon.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely thank you for spending your year with us, and

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Speaker 2: we were looking forward to many good things in the

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Speaker 2: new year, so we'll see you soon