Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: raining live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the
Speaker 1: Star in Friscotowing to the goal line saw let's got
Speaker 1: Piza and now your hosts, Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's for one final time prior
Speaker 1: to training camp. We are alive from the Star in Frisco.
Speaker 1: It's Talking Cowboys, presented by Geico and a rainy Frisco.
Speaker 1: I guess afternoon. Now, normally we start this show in
Speaker 1: the morning, but we are just a tad bit behind
Speaker 1: here on this Monday, but not behind on Cowboys News.
Speaker 1: We've got plenty to catch up on here from inside
Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage Studios, Kyle Yeoman's, Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand
Speaker 1: Back and heck Ma Harrison. Gentlemen, it's one final time
Speaker 1: before training camp. It's crazy that we're all ready to this.
Speaker 1: Come on, Kyle, this is our last time. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're just kind of like walking us into the weather.
Speaker 1: Getting is the weather getting to you is a smooth
Speaker 1: dr and B what's going on? I thought that was
Speaker 1: a pretty hype open. That was good. No, no, come on,
Speaker 1: it was sad. It was good. It was good. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm just sad that you guys are leaving and we
Speaker 1: just got back in studio and now we got to
Speaker 1: wait again, and it's just a whole thing. Now we're
Speaker 1: gonna catch up here over the next hour and kind
Speaker 1: of look at OTAs. We're gonna answer some Twitter questions
Speaker 1: and mail back Monday, and then we're also going to
Speaker 1: preview some training camp superlatives. Let's just say that so
Speaker 1: far in the final segment. But gentlemen, I do want
Speaker 1: to catch up on OTAs. We got a chance to
Speaker 1: watch practice last Thursday, which was a ton of fun.
Speaker 1: And we've had content throughout the week on Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com showcasing the practices and wanted to get some notes. Heck,
Speaker 1: but you had another great article. We'll let you start
Speaker 1: anything that's stuck out to you. In terms of OTA's
Speaker 1: last week, we got some competition battles brewing, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Cornerback position, it's going to be a war. Can't wait
Speaker 1: for that. Uh in Oxnard or wherever two of days
Speaker 1: are going to be still had been an official announcement.
Speaker 1: I think that is the I know you don't like
Speaker 1: that pe you know, you know, like, well, I just
Speaker 1: want to I just want to know that Sin Spence
Speaker 1: is killing everybody. We've got to know if he can
Speaker 1: pack a bag or not. Yeah, if I'm leaving my
Speaker 1: kid for five weeks, my wife's gonna be mad at me.
Speaker 1: I just want to know, are you gonna be on
Speaker 1: the couch now or later? Are you one way or another?
Speaker 1: You want to know. But I just think that, you know,
Speaker 1: the cornerback was linebacker as well, line throw lineback in
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of position battles that are brewing,
Speaker 1: and we want to see how this offensive line shapes up,
Speaker 1: you know, offensive line wise, there's just man a lot ball,
Speaker 1: you know, want to see beatish uh and those guys.
Speaker 1: But man, literally, our rookies are showing themselves. Those draft
Speaker 1: picks are proving their value. And I can hear Chris
Speaker 1: Beam in my head saying that this is the underwear
Speaker 1: Olympics of the OTA. So don't go too far out
Speaker 1: on the lamb on anybody. But you know, I like
Speaker 1: what I see Nation, right, I Honda, He's continuously showing
Speaker 1: that he should have been taken a lot sooner than
Speaker 1: ninety nine. I'm just wow, Isaiah somewhere in that on
Speaker 1: the show. He should be He should have been. So
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things, man with like like
Speaker 1: I said, man the battles on defense, but also number
Speaker 1: twenty our guy. Man. You know, he is showing that
Speaker 1: he is another bona fide weapon at the running back position.
Speaker 1: And I know that's kind of one of those things
Speaker 1: like what when you start talking about running back position,
Speaker 1: but his bill to you know, be playing multiple roles
Speaker 1: in the offense also as a wide receiver. I think
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is someone that we have just I don't
Speaker 1: want to say underestimated, but we hadn't seen his value
Speaker 1: be actualized. I thought Dak looked really good last week.
Speaker 1: I mean, now there's a couple of plays on the
Speaker 1: ball against him, Lat and Banderesh who by the way,
Speaker 1: it looked really good last week as well. I got
Speaker 1: a pick on him near the sideline. Kind of scared
Speaker 1: all of us with getting the win knocked out of
Speaker 1: him on that play. It was down for a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes, but I thought Dak came back hit some
Speaker 1: really nice throws. I thought he was in rhythm with
Speaker 1: his receivers. Semi Fohoko, Isaiah had a nice day two
Speaker 1: weeks ago or last week, a couple catches from Dak,
Speaker 1: But I just thought I thought number four looked look comfortable.
Speaker 1: There's still limiting what he's doing. There's still no pass
Speaker 1: rush in front of him, but you're starting to see
Speaker 1: the timing with his receivers. I think I think he's
Speaker 1: getting more comfortable back there. Oh that's beautiful to hear
Speaker 1: in OTA's and not necessarily during training camp as well, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: as long as your mike is working, Yeah, oh there,
Speaker 1: it is fantastic. Now, So what did you see from
Speaker 1: practice from an offensive standpoint? I do want to talk
Speaker 1: receivers coming up in a minute, So maybe outside of receivers,
Speaker 1: what did you see whenever it came to OTAs Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think all my attention really goes to the same
Speaker 1: thing he pointed out, which were the linebacker committee. I
Speaker 1: think assault by committee, and I think the secondary. The secondary.
Speaker 1: You know, this is is pretty inspiring to know that
Speaker 1: we have this discussion in terms of who is going
Speaker 1: to be on the roster versus being able to you know,
Speaker 1: obviously acknowledge a handful of guys that are going to
Speaker 1: be on a roster. So and now that lets you
Speaker 1: know that competition has stepped up. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys select from. I mean, the safety position has been
Speaker 1: totally transformed. I'm looking forward to seeing how that shakes out.
Speaker 1: That's not a position that you typically have too much
Speaker 1: interchanging going on throughout the game versus a cornerback position.
Speaker 1: There's a lot more rotational aspect to it. So I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to see who are going to be our
Speaker 1: surest safeties and then their backups. I don't I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a handful of guys obviously that are
Speaker 1: gonna be disappointed. They're gonna be some disappointments this year
Speaker 1: in terms of who people think are going to be
Speaker 1: in a roster at that position and who won't be there.
Speaker 1: Um and then obviously just at the dB at the
Speaker 1: cornerback position. I'm looking forward to seeing how these guys roll.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing how they fit in these schemes,
Speaker 1: how we match up against opponents going forward. Obviously, uh,
Speaker 1: these preseason games are gonna be huge in terms of
Speaker 1: being able to decide who's going to be on this
Speaker 1: roster and he's looking forward to some competition. Man, it's awesome.
Speaker 1: I missed out. I missed the name Zeke Zeke. Man.
Speaker 1: Zeke is looking quick, sleek, and I mean he's making
Speaker 1: moves in again it's no contact and just seeing some
Speaker 1: of the things that he's doing just in one on
Speaker 1: one drills and I said something about a move that
Speaker 1: he made on Jalen Smith and they talked about it
Speaker 1: in special teams as well. It's just, man, he looks,
Speaker 1: he looks good. He's looking good. You know that from
Speaker 1: last year. He wants to get those fumbles and the
Speaker 1: things that he had against him last year out that
Speaker 1: bad taste out of his mouth because I believe he
Speaker 1: led the league and fumbles from the running back position,
Speaker 1: so I mean six yards away from Eclipse in the thousand.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, man, those fumbles, Man, it
Speaker 1: has to be something that's lingering in his mind. Rob.
Speaker 1: What did you think about Zeke and what you saw
Speaker 1: from him? What Ecma said? I think Mickey kind of
Speaker 1: nudged me during practice and said, does he look does
Speaker 1: he look more sleek sleek Zeke like you said? And
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, but you know what I
Speaker 1: said that last year. I thought he looked good last
Speaker 1: year going in the season. It's it's what you said. Heck,
Speaker 1: it was those fumbles early on that really frustrated him.
Speaker 1: Got the offense in some bad spots and the defense
Speaker 1: really no margin for error defensively last year. So your
Speaker 1: offense isn't helping you. And then you know, let's not
Speaker 1: forget he dealt with some stuff down the stretch last year.
Speaker 1: He played through some things where he wasn't healthy. And
Speaker 1: I think, I think he's on a mission this show.
Speaker 1: I know Layton said that to us after practice, and
Speaker 1: he's on a mission. I think Zeke Zeke's a competitor.
Speaker 1: I know, I know he got his big contract, but
Speaker 1: I guarantee you he's not happy with the way he
Speaker 1: played last year. And the look the line, twelve different
Speaker 1: line combinations doesn't help you. That doesn't help you either.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I you know, Barry Sanders might have
Speaker 1: been able to do it in Detroit for a couple
Speaker 1: of years, you know, during his career, but no matter
Speaker 1: how good a back is, you've got to have some
Speaker 1: continuity upfront. The problem was the fumbles. That was the
Speaker 1: biggest thing. I mean, you can't average one fumble per
Speaker 1: touchdown rushing like he did last year. That can't happen,
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's that has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the offensive line. That has nothing to do with your quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think having Dak back into the fray will help
Speaker 1: out a lot. And there was a stat that I
Speaker 1: read this week where Zeke benefit and more with Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott than without Dak Prescott than any other player on
Speaker 1: this roster one hundred and seven yards per game from
Speaker 1: scrimmage with Dak. Without Dak, he was down to seventy six.
Speaker 1: So that's almost a complete So dat, oh, yeah with
Speaker 1: with without that, Yeah, you're exactly right. So he's gonna benefit,
Speaker 1: and I think he is on that mission that makes
Speaker 1: that makes sense though, right when you're a passer is
Speaker 1: no longer a part of the passing game, you turn
Speaker 1: into a running You turn into a running game. And
Speaker 1: guess what, all eleven guys on defense know exactly where
Speaker 1: the ball has to go in order for these guys
Speaker 1: to get first down. So, I mean, the worst case
Speaker 1: scenario happened to Zeke last year in terms of at
Speaker 1: least him being healthy. If you're a healthy player and
Speaker 1: you're a running back. Everything that happened last year. Your
Speaker 1: quarterback went down, your office, a lineman went down, right,
Speaker 1: You're tight end went down. It was the worst thing
Speaker 1: that could have happened for Zeke, worst case scenario. So
Speaker 1: if there was ever a time to say, hey, how
Speaker 1: bad can they get for Zeke, well you already saw it,
Speaker 1: so everything else should be up and up for him.
Speaker 1: I think when we look back through a season sometimes
Speaker 1: you know we have kind of the narrative, like we
Speaker 1: know the running game wasn't what it was, the offense
Speaker 1: wasn't what it was. If you look a little deeper
Speaker 1: and you look like I want to say, like back
Speaker 1: in November early December, the running Game got on track.
Speaker 1: I think they were averaging like one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: yards a game, and Zach Martin, I want to say,
Speaker 1: PFF had him as the highest rated run locker. He
Speaker 1: went down whatever game that was, maybe Thanksgiving, and they
Speaker 1: didn't get back on track healthy. Zach Martin means so
Speaker 1: much to the run game. I mean, a pro bowler,
Speaker 1: a pro bowler, probe, maybe a future Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: one day, but the yellow jacket on it, I like that.
Speaker 1: That's okay. I don't disagree the trajectory he's on right now.
Speaker 1: Certainly Golden jacket words. No, absolutely, I mean he's and
Speaker 1: and I always kid my uncle and tell him that
Speaker 1: Zach Martin would have gave him problems. He better be
Speaker 1: glad he played in a different era. And he laughs
Speaker 1: at that. Just remind everybody your own Yeah, come on, man,
Speaker 1: I think ye man, No, there are new ers too.
Speaker 1: Don't raise my uncle guy. So if you didn't know that,
Speaker 1: the great yeah so. But but the other thing about
Speaker 1: Zeke when we talk about him, and I think he's
Speaker 1: the big reveal for the defense, you know, like he is,
Speaker 1: which Zeke you getting? Are you getting Hall to top Zeke?
Speaker 1: Are you getting fumble Zeke? You know, Papa balloons, Let's
Speaker 1: get Hall to top Zeke back in the building. I mean,
Speaker 1: And for the defense, him being on track is actually
Speaker 1: going to help these guys. I mean, you look at
Speaker 1: the fumbles that he had last year, where he had
Speaker 1: those fumbles in what position that put the defense in
Speaker 1: You you know football well enough to know when you
Speaker 1: got a running back that's grinding it out, getting those
Speaker 1: first downs for you, extended ball position field, all of
Speaker 1: those things in time of possession. That makes the game
Speaker 1: so much easier. And you saw situations where just the
Speaker 1: Cowboys couldn't get any rhythm at all because Zeke couldn't
Speaker 1: get any rhythm. It's a great point. And Tony Pollard too,
Speaker 1: when they asked Tony Pollard to be not the change
Speaker 1: up necessarily, but like you know, he hit a shoulder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: more of a load with ze banged up. He struggled too,
Speaker 1: with a large amount of carries. It's just, you know,
Speaker 1: it was hard to get things established up front for
Speaker 1: a lot of last season. It goes back to the
Speaker 1: fumbles and then yards per carry. The chunk yardage was
Speaker 1: better for Pollard, but like you said, in terms of
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things, he struggled, but he held
Speaker 1: on to the football struggles. That's where it really boils
Speaker 1: down to. Now. We've talked about some of these wide
Speaker 1: receivers sticking with the offensive side of the football. We've
Speaker 1: talked about some of the lower wide receivers on the group.
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about the big three a little
Speaker 1: bit here. The reason why is, first thing I noticed
Speaker 1: whenever I saw Ota practice on Thursday, I brought out
Speaker 1: the binoculars. I looked at eighty eight. That man has
Speaker 1: put on some weight in a good way, like good weight.
Speaker 1: Oh man, he looks big, he looks strong. The thighs
Speaker 1: there's a picture online, there's of a story, I believe.
Speaker 1: I think it's a featured picture on one of the
Speaker 1: stories on Dallas Cowboys dot com. And his thighs are
Speaker 1: like the size of this table. Like, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: just massive. What do you think the expectation should be
Speaker 1: for the big three receivers? Is this the chance for
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb to maybe make it a step up and
Speaker 1: maybe even be challenging with Amari Cooper in his second
Speaker 1: year as the number one receiver? Or is Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: gonna come in and have to keep that mentality of
Speaker 1: course with an out at the end of his contract.
Speaker 1: There's a contract here from Michael Gallup. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of questions around this part of the team. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: conceding to the receiver. I mean, I think the expectation
Speaker 1: is where they kind of where they left off when
Speaker 1: before Dat got hurt, right, it was just you know,
Speaker 1: just having a level of consistency and um and these
Speaker 1: guys you can you can these guys can take you
Speaker 1: take you out from every angle. And that's essentially what
Speaker 1: this offense is built to do. Is built to have
Speaker 1: a consistent running game. Is built to have a quarterback
Speaker 1: who who's a game manager, who can also can make
Speaker 1: plays as well, who has a big arm um. Is
Speaker 1: meant to no matter who you line up on what
Speaker 1: your your first dB, your second dB, your third best dB,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get routed up because our three you're better
Speaker 1: than your three. Oh and by the way, we have
Speaker 1: a tight end as well, by the name of jar
Speaker 1: One who can run by your your fourth best guy.
Speaker 1: So I mean, so that's what this offense is made
Speaker 1: to do. So in terms of expectation, I don't have
Speaker 1: or nor do I put any expectations on one particular person.
Speaker 1: I look at how each person is going to positively
Speaker 1: affect the entire offense and their ability to keep keep
Speaker 1: on the field. Right, So a time of possession, which
Speaker 1: is huge, right in terms of your ability to win
Speaker 1: ball games. We've talked about that a lot last year.
Speaker 1: But also will be able to continue to move these chains, right,
Speaker 1: that's what you want to do. So we talk about
Speaker 1: be able to play complimentary football and helping your defense
Speaker 1: out is huge. So if we don't have a balance attack,
Speaker 1: if we can't keep guys at bay, then we're gonna struggle.
Speaker 1: But as long as we can keep their running game going,
Speaker 1: as long as we can keep Dak upright, I think
Speaker 1: all these guys are gonna eat. Who do you think
Speaker 1: in the wide receiving corps is best equipped to achieve that?
Speaker 1: Achieve what I think I think they're all gonna do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'm saying best out of the
Speaker 1: out of the group, which one's the best right now?
Speaker 1: In that regard, I mean in terms of numbers, in
Speaker 1: terms of pure numbers, I think Cooper is always going
Speaker 1: to get them the biggest numbers because I think he's
Speaker 1: always gonna be the biggest threat. You think, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: but I do. I think that, And I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get killed on this by everybody
Speaker 1: in the world. But when it comes to numbers, isn't everything.
Speaker 1: I'll put it that way. Numbers isn't everything. It doesn't
Speaker 1: tell the entire story, right, It doesn't tell you the
Speaker 1: story about how, uh, you know, Amari Cooper goes out
Speaker 1: here and gets you know, one hundred fifty yards and
Speaker 1: there in a game, Well, would he got that hundred
Speaker 1: fifty yards of CD wasn't inside of it? Right? Him
Speaker 1: lining up and keeping that safety at bay right, keeping
Speaker 1: those linebackers offer. So so there's a lot of other
Speaker 1: intricacies that are really go into the game that don't
Speaker 1: necessarily always reflect in stats. I agree, I think that's
Speaker 1: one accurate. But also there are other numbers that do
Speaker 1: tell a story about who is the better receiver of
Speaker 1: the two. And that's also called Chacheing money numbers. I mean,
Speaker 1: the numbers are there for Amari Cooper, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna see very quickly here in the next offseason where
Speaker 1: whether or not those that money is there for Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup as well. So I'm gonna ask you the same question, Hackmo,
Speaker 1: which one of those receivers is best equipped right now
Speaker 1: to help this team succeed? And I'm asking, is there
Speaker 1: a chance that it's not Amari Cooper? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and you you look at Ceedee Lamb and
Speaker 1: the attention that Amara Cooper is gonna get, like you
Speaker 1: you pointed out, I mean, teams are gonna just have
Speaker 1: to pick their own poison on who you're gonna allow
Speaker 1: to expose you. But in the second gear, I look
Speaker 1: for a guy like Ceedee Lamb to make strides, you know,
Speaker 1: get past that thousand yard level because it's gonna be
Speaker 1: hard for teams to deal with him one on one.
Speaker 1: And so you see, it's just ability, it's just acrobatic
Speaker 1: nature to go up in high point balls. That's what
Speaker 1: he does a lot better than a lot of NFL receivers.
Speaker 1: And so I just think Ceedee Lamb is in that
Speaker 1: conversation to make the stride in the second year. But
Speaker 1: let's not gloss over the fact that Michael Gallup has
Speaker 1: been risp in OTA's and he is. Michael Gallup has
Speaker 1: just been un you know, like what he's done in
Speaker 1: this offense is kind of underappreciated by fans and the
Speaker 1: trade rumors and things like that. So when you talk
Speaker 1: about a guy being in the contract year and being
Speaker 1: one of Dak Prescott's favorites, you know amongst the receivering group,
Speaker 1: I look for him to do special things too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I to your point, like he gets overlooked and the
Speaker 1: and the I think everybody gets so excited about the
Speaker 1: draft leading up to the draft. That was a big conversation,
Speaker 1: like oh, if you you could pick up an extra pick,
Speaker 1: you know, because maybe you don't resign Gallop next year.
Speaker 1: Worry about next year next year, Like you just signed
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott tw one hundred and sixty million plus, give
Speaker 1: him the best group you possibly can, make your offense
Speaker 1: as good as you possibly can, and then just kind
Speaker 1: of see what happens when twenty twenty two rolls around.
Speaker 1: But to Isaiah's point, I watched a lot of playoff
Speaker 1: basketball over the weekend. This receiver core reminds me. It's
Speaker 1: kind of nets. Like, you know, they all make each
Speaker 1: other better. They all compliment each other and help each
Speaker 1: other get open because of their presence, and so I
Speaker 1: think from that standpoint, they're all important to each other.
Speaker 1: Who's the best receiver on the team. Amari Cooper is
Speaker 1: the best receiver on this team. He's the most consistent
Speaker 1: receiver on the team. I went back and I think
Speaker 1: I did a top ten of his best plays of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. It's a very quiet at times, ninety
Speaker 1: three catches because it's not always flashy, but he's helping
Speaker 1: move the chains consistently with four different quarterbacks last year,
Speaker 1: I think Ceedee Lamb's prime for a big year. I think,
Speaker 1: do you watch him two times already and you can
Speaker 1: tell to your point. I think he's gonna be special,
Speaker 1: and he already is special. I think he did. He
Speaker 1: was up there in drops last year. You know he
Speaker 1: missed him He missed some opportunities to make some big plays. Um,
Speaker 1: I think he had. I don't want to miss quote it.
Speaker 1: I want to say it was like nine nine drops.
Speaker 1: He cleans that up, just like Mike clean that up
Speaker 1: a little bit for himself last year. Coming off of
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, he'll be even better, much better. And I
Speaker 1: don't think we could totally put all the pressure on
Speaker 1: the receivers. I know, obviously they're there are ones that
Speaker 1: have to go out there and make the plays. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, there's a gentleman who
Speaker 1: happens to have a massive call sheet larger than the
Speaker 1: one of Kyle has, and he decides who who's in
Speaker 1: the best position to make plays on a certain play
Speaker 1: right against certain schemes. So let's let's not take the
Speaker 1: take the pressure off of off of Kellen Moore and
Speaker 1: his ability to be able to call plays that give
Speaker 1: these guys the best opportunity to be successful. Oh and
Speaker 1: by the way, we had this issue in the red zone, right,
Speaker 1: and there's a guy that they brought in by the
Speaker 1: name of mac do right, so let's see what effect
Speaker 1: that he has over these guys and their abilities to
Speaker 1: score points in a zone, because this conversation might change
Speaker 1: when we see that. Trying to start controversy, I just said,
Speaker 1: I look at it. I went back and looked at
Speaker 1: the numbers red zone wise between Kellen Moore and Ben
Speaker 1: McAdoo during their times as offensive coordinators. As an offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: McAdoo was way better than Kellen Moore in the red zone,
Speaker 1: just average per career. As a head coach, actually, McAdoo
Speaker 1: was not as good as Kellen Moore in the red zone.
Speaker 1: So that's just kind of an interesting tidbit. But going
Speaker 1: back to the wide receivers, I completely agree with what
Speaker 1: you guys said. I still think it is Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: and then it's two A to B. I mean, whichever
Speaker 1: one has a better game is ultimately is going to
Speaker 1: end up looking like between Cede Lamb and Michael Gallo.
Speaker 1: And I don't you know, we talked about the fourth
Speaker 1: and fifth receiver spots. We just I don't think we
Speaker 1: remember how active those Cedric Wilson and Noah Brown were
Speaker 1: in this offense. I mean there were several situationally where
Speaker 1: you know, Cedric Wilson was you know, the targeted several times.
Speaker 1: And so that's a big part of our offense that
Speaker 1: hasn't been figured out. If we're gonna go back to
Speaker 1: save Wilson there, if one of these undrafted free agents
Speaker 1: gonna make a push or see me for Hoko, it's
Speaker 1: gonna I mean, yeah, so we're gonna have a fourth
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a fifth receiver. Yes, right, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's facts. Right. It's let's act as if our
Speaker 1: guys are never gonna get hurt. Okay, let's act that,
Speaker 1: which is I pray for that right? Yeah, that sounds correctly.
Speaker 1: That's the NFL's reality is probably not it, but okay,
Speaker 1: so say we row with you with these three, right,
Speaker 1: we got our big three, right, and then we throw
Speaker 1: in said Wilson, Noah Brown or for Hoko or whoever
Speaker 1: else Mike's want to compete for that spot. What's the
Speaker 1: reality that those that those number four, number five we're
Speaker 1: gonna get on the field. If jar one's healthy, not
Speaker 1: a lot exactly right, So we start looking at that, right,
Speaker 1: So number four, number five, you might get in there
Speaker 1: to to I mean, receivers are not coming off the
Speaker 1: field most times now in a league. They're just not,
Speaker 1: especially if they can hire to hire pay guys Coop,
Speaker 1: guys like that. They're not coming off the field. So
Speaker 1: if if I bring on number four in the game,
Speaker 1: he's probably coming into block. It's probably coming to block,
Speaker 1: or he's coming to take the top off, right, and
Speaker 1: if he happens to blow by the guy, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw it up to him, right, like we've seen Cedry
Speaker 1: Wilson do. He did it against Seattle again Seattle, absolutely right.
Speaker 1: It was a perfect example because in that game, specifically,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper didn't have as many snaps, and so Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson came in and played the same thing down the
Speaker 1: stretch with Noah Brown. They would come in and they
Speaker 1: would take one of those receivers off the field, whether
Speaker 1: they were having an ailment or they just needed a breather,
Speaker 1: and those guys would come in as the fillers. And
Speaker 1: that's all you need them to be sure. Absolutely So
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm curious to see with a healthy big four.
Speaker 1: I'll call it because out there, Jar went in there
Speaker 1: with a healthy big four. What are the opportunities that
Speaker 1: are presented to these guys and how spread out is
Speaker 1: this ball going to be? Because we have not seen
Speaker 1: this offense. Will all four of those guys on a
Speaker 1: consistent basis go throughout even a four game span? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. I thought about that because I feel like
Speaker 1: Noah Brown and said earned spots in the rotation to
Speaker 1: y'all's point, but if Jar, who's kind of he's not
Speaker 1: a receiver, but he has receiver type skills, maybe that
Speaker 1: changes the rotation or the availability of snaps because because
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz two is probably gonna be. But I see
Speaker 1: it like, I mean, look, I love Jar and I
Speaker 1: think he's a you know, he does a great job receiving,
Speaker 1: but I think we only got a sample size of it,
Speaker 1: obviously with him getting hurt in the first game. But
Speaker 1: I think with the way that Kellen Moore's scheme is
Speaker 1: he goes to the three by one set with wide
Speaker 1: receivers and not the tight end, and even when he
Speaker 1: goes to a twin set, you know, it's you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I agree, but how much is Drawing
Speaker 1: getting paid per year? It's not a ton. It was
Speaker 1: three years, twenty two mil. He got a nice contract.
Speaker 1: Yea four years. Yeah, it's healthy. He's getting just over five.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get the ball. He's getting paid to play,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna get the ball. And one years gone, right,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get I say all that to say, the
Speaker 1: business side of it says he's gonna get the ball.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I'm talking about it, right. They're
Speaker 1: not going to just have him on the roster, just
Speaker 1: another guy. That's that's all. I'm getting a point. If
Speaker 1: Jarl's getting him, he's on a roster, they're gonna find
Speaker 1: a way to give him the ball inconsistently, and Schultz
Speaker 1: is still on his room. Shultz is still gonna be
Speaker 1: there too. So two set all that jazz, right, but
Speaker 1: trust me, it's gonna be our three, our three goals receiver,
Speaker 1: and trust me, Jarlon's gonna find they're gonna find a
Speaker 1: way to get him their rock. So that's another that's
Speaker 1: another sixty balls, seventy balls gone. It's this is kind
Speaker 1: of a surprising stat but the Cowboys last year led
Speaker 1: the NFL with eighty one dropped passes. You remember that
Speaker 1: last year, though eighty one since twenty nineteen. They have
Speaker 1: three players with tim plus drops since I guess over
Speaker 1: the past two seasons. They're only thirty two players in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and the Cowboys have three of them. That's
Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper, Michael Gallup, and Ezekiel Elliott. He has
Speaker 1: fourteen drops since twenty nineteen. Seed Lamb, by the way,
Speaker 1: had nine last year. So drops are an issue. It
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily take away from how good this receiving corps
Speaker 1: is because there's still an elite receiving corps and probably
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott back in the mix, I don't think
Speaker 1: those numbers are as inflated as they were a year ago.
Speaker 1: But we'll talk plenty more about the wide receivers whenever
Speaker 1: training camp comes around, because there is a battle for
Speaker 1: that fourth, that fifth spot at wide receiver, maybe even
Speaker 1: if they want to put a sixth on the roster
Speaker 1: in terms of the special teams as well. But when
Speaker 1: we come back, you're on talking Cowboys. We're gonna try
Speaker 1: and predict who will start the year and in the
Speaker 1: year at corner pack based off of a Twitter question.
Speaker 1: We'll answer some of those questions with mail back Monday
Speaker 1: when we return right after this, Honey, big news, Gary,
Speaker 1: Are you okay? Oh? I'm not Gary anymore. I'm Jackie Flash.
Speaker 1: What see? I want the latest smartphone, but the best
Speaker 1: deals are only for new customers. So to get a
Speaker 1: new customer deal, I'll change my name to Jackie Flash. Okay,
Speaker 1: But the best smartphone deals at AT and T are
Speaker 1: for everyone, new and existing customers. That's huge. Then guess
Speaker 1: who's getting the deal? Is it Jackie Flash, Jackie Flash?
Speaker 1: It's not complicated at AT and t our best smartphone
Speaker 1: deals are for everyone. Restrictions apply at att dot com
Speaker 1: for details. Want to use what the pros use? How
Speaker 1: about the official men's skincare brand of the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Jack Black. Right now you can get the Jack Black Starter,
Speaker 1: a curated collection of Cowboys locker room favorites, for just
Speaker 1: ten bucks with free shipping. The starter includes four Jack
Speaker 1: Black skincare favorites plus a full sized and tense therapy
Speaker 1: lip bomb. Go to get Jack Black dot com slash
Speaker 1: Cowboys and use the code word team JB. That's get
Speaker 1: Jack Black dot com slash Cowboys, the Jack Black Starter
Speaker 1: ten bucks free shipping before there was a draft. You
Speaker 1: get sized up a cowboy by three simple factors, the
Speaker 1: crease in his hat, the bend of his brim, and
Speaker 1: his unbending attitude a man. Stetson didn't just protect him
Speaker 1: from what life throw at him, It projected a rugged,
Speaker 1: unstoppable spirit. Stetson hats are still American made with pride.
Speaker 1: Right here in Texas. There's still the unofficial crowd of
Speaker 1: all self respecting cowboys, and Stetson is proud to be
Speaker 1: on the field with America's team. Find a retailer nearest
Speaker 1: Jewitt Stetson dot com slash Cowboys. There's nothing as unique
Speaker 1: as our eyes, which is why Selor pioneers ways to
Speaker 1: make lenses as unique as you. Varilux for super sharp vision,
Speaker 1: Essential Blue for protection, I'm Crisol for freedom from glare,
Speaker 1: three cutting up solutions and a single unique lens. So
Speaker 1: whatever your needs, insist on Selore, visit your local slor
Speaker 1: experts and find a perfect lens for you to see more,
Speaker 1: Do more, slure to talk in Cowboys. Did you know
Speaker 1: that you could get the ultimate fan experience for the
Speaker 1: ultimate Dallas Cowboys fan I did not. Well, you can
Speaker 1: join Dallas Cowboys United, presented by Globe Life, starting at
Speaker 1: just twenty dollars. How about that deal? Join out, you
Speaker 1: can get exclusive fan pack, you can get access to
Speaker 1: discounts and more member benefits. You know where you can
Speaker 1: find that, No, Dallas cowboys dot COM's last United for details,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Daddy Warmbucks for twenty dollars. I there.
Speaker 1: Let me get that. It's like a couple of coffee. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true, honestly, yeah, that's not far off. But second
Speaker 1: segment here of Talking Cowboys, our final show prior to
Speaker 1: training claims camp. It does. So glad everybody's been with
Speaker 1: us though, I mean, I know this is this has
Speaker 1: been the first year with the new crew and everything,
Speaker 1: and we I mean, we feel like everybody that listens
Speaker 1: to this show is family. Really. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys nation, no doubt about it, and we love
Speaker 1: every single one of you, and we appreciate every time
Speaker 1: you listen, you share, you like, you follow anything. We
Speaker 1: definitely appreciate it because we have a ton of fun
Speaker 1: talking cowboys with you guys, and hopefully we're able to
Speaker 1: learn something along the way. As you guys learned some
Speaker 1: stuff along the way, because I learned from these guys
Speaker 1: every single day. But Rob, there are some mail bag
Speaker 1: questions we've got to get to. It's mailbag Monday time,
Speaker 1: and I got some Twitter questions this week. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna start things off with a combo question this from
Speaker 1: Dan and Mike. I'm gonna throw Mike Crumb in there
Speaker 1: because he's a loyal listener and he was he wanted
Speaker 1: to be a part of this question too. Try and
Speaker 1: predict how the Cowboys will start and in the year
Speaker 1: with the starters at the cornerback position. So of course
Speaker 1: there's been quite a few changes throughout. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, right now, it looks like the starters might
Speaker 1: be the same as what we saw in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Shoudobe a woozier. But is there any big change that
Speaker 1: you see on the horizon at the moment, it's no,
Speaker 1: it's Treyvon Digs, it's Anthony Brown, and it's Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: And I very well could see that happen in week one. Now,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you drafted two young players that have
Speaker 1: a lot of talent. Doesn't mean by the end of
Speaker 1: the year, that might look different. We talked to me,
Speaker 1: just talk about receiver. You could you could have guys
Speaker 1: earning spots within rotation get some snaps, but I definitely
Speaker 1: could see them leaning towards veterans at that spot, like
Speaker 1: Isaiah has been saying all along, like you guys didn't
Speaker 1: love the idea of going corner in the first round
Speaker 1: because you'd be awfully young. It's your corner spots. They'd
Speaker 1: be awfully young if they if they if Kelvin Joseph
Speaker 1: or Nashan Wrights started week one. But hey, that's what
Speaker 1: camps for. We'll find out. So okay, so we're gonna
Speaker 1: go around and give our starters, and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about who we think might be there at this
Speaker 1: end of the year. So starters for you, Isaiah, starters,
Speaker 1: I think just what just what Rob Pie said, and
Speaker 1: the same guys from last year. Obviously we got Jay
Speaker 1: lou A Brown and Trayvon Diggs. I'm going to say,
Speaker 1: I've just seen him compete, and definitely Anthony Brown and
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs would be in that conversation. And also Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: based off what I've seen so far, well, I'm based
Speaker 1: off of following the money, right, that's what you're told,
Speaker 1: follow the money. And Jordan Lewis signing his new deal
Speaker 1: as well, I'm right there with you after he signed
Speaker 1: his three year, thirteen and a half million dollar contract.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, I think is a starter at the moment,
Speaker 1: He's gonna start in the slot. Anthony Brown will be
Speaker 1: on the outside, Trayvon Diggs will be on the outside
Speaker 1: as well. Those are my three there. I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna see a heavy dose of Calvin Joseph, especially early on.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see exactly what he has pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: Outside or inside. That's what I was about to ask you, honestly,
Speaker 1: because you might be inside. He could go either way.
Speaker 1: I think he's versatile enough and I think he's skilled
Speaker 1: enough to do so. But I think that I think
Speaker 1: the first thing you do is put him on an inside,
Speaker 1: especially especially week one. Why do you think he would
Speaker 1: be better inside? He's quick, he's shifty, he's more, he's more.
Speaker 1: As we're as this defense is starting to change, you
Speaker 1: can you can see the direction at this secondary starting
Speaker 1: to go in. We're most likely going to have two
Speaker 1: six four safeties just call it how that is, sorry
Speaker 1: if that was thinking. Yeah, I mean, there's there's a
Speaker 1: chance that we have two six four safeties on his
Speaker 1: on his roster. Um there's also I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys have been paying attention, but we have some
Speaker 1: tall cornerbacks now as well, right right, Um, so, um,
Speaker 1: you got Digizua, you know, obviously you got some guys
Speaker 1: that could that could put some hands on some people. Um,
Speaker 1: we have size. So when you start looking at kind
Speaker 1: of how and Quinn is starting to scheme up this
Speaker 1: this defense in the secondary, he wants one side somebody
Speaker 1: who can just lock you down or stay in your
Speaker 1: hit pocket the whole time. He wants on another side
Speaker 1: where they can put their hands in your chest right well,
Speaker 1: on the inside where that's where the teams are going
Speaker 1: to try to hide there. They're shifty guys, So guess
Speaker 1: where you put your shifty guy on the inside side.
Speaker 1: So that's why you that's why, Um, that's what I believe.
Speaker 1: I believe that he's he's he's kind of getting kJ
Speaker 1: or you know, Kevin Jones. I think he's getting him ready,
Speaker 1: um to play both. But I think primarily he will
Speaker 1: have the biggest impact on the inside for this team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like Kelvin Joson on the inside. But you know
Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be a serious undertaking. Right now,
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis is playing with that sense of urgency that
Speaker 1: we talked about. These guys know that they're on the
Speaker 1: hot seat, and with signing those contracts that the pressure
Speaker 1: intensifies to perform because you've been rewarded in a sense.
Speaker 1: And so but Kelvin Joseph again, follow the money and
Speaker 1: the draft pick. He was picked it in the second round,
Speaker 1: and and there are not a lot of teams that
Speaker 1: lit the second round draft pick sit on the bed.
Speaker 1: They're gonna put that guy in and see exactly what
Speaker 1: he has. And we're gonna get a full serving of
Speaker 1: Kevin Kevin Joseph in the preseason. We'll find out if
Speaker 1: he can play or not. But NationAn Wright is the
Speaker 1: one guy in this whole equation that I think, you know,
Speaker 1: more people need to start paying attention to because at
Speaker 1: the end of the year, we're looking down the line,
Speaker 1: it may be a situation where that third round pick
Speaker 1: is the one that you're talking about more than the second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just kidding. Yeah, that's where I was going
Speaker 1: because Chris or CBS on vacation, Yep, Scott and Aaron
Speaker 1: just rolled a lot of highlights of Sean Wright, and
Speaker 1: we watch practice, he gets an interception, We watch practice,
Speaker 1: he gets a pick. I get it. It shorts, it's pajamas,
Speaker 1: it's all that stuff. But there's a long way to go.
Speaker 1: You put the pads on, you got you gotta go
Speaker 1: through the grinder camp. You gotta show out. Um. But
Speaker 1: if this keeps up, he's gonna be on the field.
Speaker 1: I already feel like he's on the team. You know,
Speaker 1: he's dan Quinn wants to develop him. There's no question
Speaker 1: about it. He's the top three round pick. But there's
Speaker 1: a third round action. But maybe he's playing this year,
Speaker 1: you know, if he if he can continue to show
Speaker 1: this and continue to develop again, very very very early.
Speaker 1: M That's that's intriguing because based off how you felt
Speaker 1: about the pick, Yeah, you're right, I was not. I
Speaker 1: was nowhere close to where I am right now with
Speaker 1: Naean right now. Of course, after the draft, we went
Speaker 1: and we watched film and we said, Okay, we see
Speaker 1: the fit, but is he good enough? And right now
Speaker 1: he's like you said, he's showing out with what we've
Speaker 1: been able to see in the very very very small
Speaker 1: sample size. The preseason is going to be huge for
Speaker 1: both of those guys. Sure, the first couple of weeks
Speaker 1: of the season are going to be gigantic for both
Speaker 1: of those guys. But we saw it last year with
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs. Premium secondary picks are going to see the
Speaker 1: field now. Trayvon Diggs was thrown into a tough situation
Speaker 1: where he had to start because of the injuries to
Speaker 1: shadobe E Wuzier and because of the lack of availability
Speaker 1: with Anthony Brown at times. Trayvon Diggs was thrust it
Speaker 1: into that starting job by the necessity of having it.
Speaker 1: There's not that at least right now. Hopefully that stays
Speaker 1: the case. Hopefully everybody stays healthy. There's not that necessity
Speaker 1: right now. So it'll be interesting to see how they
Speaker 1: finish up. How do you feel like they'll finish up,
Speaker 1: prop I mean, I'm with Heck. I think if Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph is not a walk in starter, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be playing by the end of the year if
Speaker 1: he if he's on track the way they think he
Speaker 1: can be and we haven't seen a lot of him
Speaker 1: so far. I think he'll be playing quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I just to y'all's point, like he's a second round pick.
Speaker 1: They have a lot of a bill belief in him.
Speaker 1: Like Isaiah said, he's got some flexibility, he can he
Speaker 1: can play insider out. He's going to be on the field.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident of that. Now. I want to ask
Speaker 1: this in the end of the table, do you guys
Speaker 1: want to put a pick in here? Is Nashan right
Speaker 1: going to start at least one game by the end
Speaker 1: of the year. Yes, wow, okay, yeah, absolutely, especially as
Speaker 1: you started facing somebody these larger receivers. Heck you you
Speaker 1: think he'll be right there? Heck you? Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Hey, no more, we don't have to face
Speaker 1: Julio Jones anymore. That's a celebration. Hey how about that.
Speaker 1: That's a whole right, there's a steal. That's a giveaway.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Flea market is what the type picked out.
Speaker 1: But you know, national right again, not getting overly excited
Speaker 1: about it. We have to get to camp to see
Speaker 1: what he can do. But I just believe in dan
Speaker 1: quinn Man. He is as advertised the way that you
Speaker 1: talked about him, the energy that he approaches practice with
Speaker 1: the guy's interaction with dan Quinn, I mean, his involvement.
Speaker 1: And from one point he's down with the defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: The next thing you know, he's on the other side
Speaker 1: with the cornerbacks. Like wait a minute, he was just
Speaker 1: you know, and so he's got a teleportation device on
Speaker 1: the field. There's no way he got from one side
Speaker 1: to well, how did you get down there? You know,
Speaker 1: And he's and just the competition that he's reading, the
Speaker 1: culture that you talked about. These guys are competing, and
Speaker 1: you look at last year. I mean, it's at a
Speaker 1: certain point we're gonna get to the point where we're
Speaker 1: not talking about twenty twenty anymore. Right, But still, when
Speaker 1: you go back to the fact that guys couldn't play
Speaker 1: fast because they didn't understand alignment and assignment, they didn't
Speaker 1: know where they were. There were two guys in one
Speaker 1: area and a guy running free. Right. So I think
Speaker 1: the simplified approach to dan Quinn's defense and just his involvement,
Speaker 1: hands on approach, I think that's gonna make the difference
Speaker 1: in the secondary. I don't know if he starts unless
Speaker 1: there's an injury. But look, everybody's got to be ready
Speaker 1: because you need four good corners in today's NFL at least.
Speaker 1: And Anthony Brown's missed I think thirteen games the last
Speaker 1: two years. Cheeto missed some games last year, not on
Speaker 1: the roster anymore, Jordan missed the opener, so you have
Speaker 1: to have some depth there. Richard Robinson started a couple
Speaker 1: of games I think last year, so it's possible. It's
Speaker 1: possible you might see the rookies in the starting lineup.
Speaker 1: And as we're talking about, you know, the guys don't
Speaker 1: have pads on yet, understand right, and just take her
Speaker 1: for somebody who's who's been been through it a little bit.
Speaker 1: OTAs is harder on dbs than it is some receivers.
Speaker 1: So when the pads get on, whatever the dbs are doing,
Speaker 1: usually he gets better, especially physical dbs. Right, So when
Speaker 1: you talk about guys like night National right, who get
Speaker 1: up there in your face and they put their hands
Speaker 1: on your chest, guess what, it's a little bit harder
Speaker 1: when they're slipping the sliding on shirts that they really
Speaker 1: get you know what I'm saying. Right, when you get
Speaker 1: up there and you got some pads on. Now I
Speaker 1: can I can now I can grab you. Yeah, now
Speaker 1: I can grab you. Now I can punch you in
Speaker 1: your chest without the coach thinking I'm a hurtybody one. Right,
Speaker 1: So what as good as you guys are seeing Nashan
Speaker 1: b right now, it's only going to get better. Hopefully,
Speaker 1: I hope that's the case. Just continue this ending there's
Speaker 1: but in the as we're talking about the secondary, I
Speaker 1: personally think this might be a curveball. I think the
Speaker 1: safety position is more competitive than a cornerback position. Okay,
Speaker 1: why is that because you brought into veterans curse you
Speaker 1: brought you brought in three veteran Yeah, I mean, well
Speaker 1: whatever here you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, so and then
Speaker 1: you factor in the fact that you brought in curse, right, um,
Speaker 1: and then Wilson's not going anywhere, he's gonna be there. Well,
Speaker 1: we know he's gonna be there, So you have you're
Speaker 1: only gonna carry four safeties. Yeah yeah, so you got
Speaker 1: you got the two six four jokers, right, you got
Speaker 1: Israel I like Israel, right, and you got Darien Thompson
Speaker 1: in there. I mean, like the safety position is very
Speaker 1: competitive now, and it's harder to show your abilities at safety.
Speaker 1: Right when you're talking about practice and evaluating things of
Speaker 1: that nature, it is very difficult to evaluate a safety
Speaker 1: skill set and what he's gonna be able to attribute
Speaker 1: to your team because guess what, a lot of times
Speaker 1: you're not being challenged. It's not corner it's not being
Speaker 1: challenged as much. Right, so preseason games become in becomes
Speaker 1: you know, very instrumental in terms of being able to
Speaker 1: tell who can ball. And that's not a position that
Speaker 1: you usually rotate out, like like I mentioned earlier in
Speaker 1: the show, cornerback and guess what, Hey, you go out
Speaker 1: there at heck, you get you a couple of players, Bore,
Speaker 1: I'll get your body, all right, Kyle, get up in
Speaker 1: there all right. Rob, you gonna get you some reps too, right,
Speaker 1: safety position, you're not doing that. Yeah, So how difficult
Speaker 1: it's gonna be for these guys to determine who's going
Speaker 1: to have the most contributions to live to this roster? Now,
Speaker 1: I really think that's interesting that you bring that up
Speaker 1: about the safety position because I believe that there are
Speaker 1: a lot of guys have they've been living on potential, yes, right,
Speaker 1: and that potential at some point has to come to
Speaker 1: a maturity day. And the maturity day is due now,
Speaker 1: So who are some of those guys? I think Thompson
Speaker 1: definitely has has lived on potential for a while, especially
Speaker 1: last year. But I think that you know, but there's
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, return on investment. It's time, you know,
Speaker 1: they put enough into him where he can give them something.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of bad tape out there if
Speaker 1: you're Thompson that you just look, you got to overcome
Speaker 1: that with the preseason. Yeah, I mean I would lean
Speaker 1: towards Kiz just because when Bill Parcels came in, he
Speaker 1: had the Parcels guys absolutely, Quinn guys that are here, uh,
Speaker 1: donovand Wilson, I would think is a start of what
Speaker 1: we've seen. Curse would take some reps a lot um
Speaker 1: early on. That was also because Wilson wasn't necessarily available. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's voluntary. And now so say, but we had
Speaker 1: two guys locked, right, say we got Kiz and we
Speaker 1: got those two were locked. I think we all can
Speaker 1: pretty much way better about that. But even we had
Speaker 1: last So let's say say those two guys are locked,
Speaker 1: who are next to you? Gotta keep two more. I
Speaker 1: would say Curse and Mukuama at least right now, right
Speaker 1: this very second, that's where I would put it. Dan
Speaker 1: Thompson maybe yeah, I mean don't know. I don't disagree.
Speaker 1: I just I think there's a lot of dudes. Yeah
Speaker 1: you think, do you agree with it? Because he's gonna
Speaker 1: come down to special teams too, It's really gonna come
Speaker 1: down to special teams. Special can help special teams. Thompsons
Speaker 1: can't help you there. Um, But you start looking at
Speaker 1: and then you look at start looking at the special teams.
Speaker 1: But do you start looking at guys like like Israel? Right,
Speaker 1: because I'm a big fan of him. Okay, he's six
Speaker 1: to four. He could play special teams and he wants
Speaker 1: to play special teams. Right, that's where him and Thompson
Speaker 1: can really come in, right. They both want to play
Speaker 1: on the teams. They want to have an impact there.
Speaker 1: But this way, if if I'm if I'm Dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: somebody wants to throw the ball over the top, I
Speaker 1: want to six four. I want a six four guys,
Speaker 1: Yeah I had that length? Yeah yeah, because he's only
Speaker 1: what five eleven, he's not very big. How big is Curse?
Speaker 1: How tall is Curse. They view him is kind of
Speaker 1: a special not specialty, but a guy that can cover
Speaker 1: tight ends. And he's a special teams He's been a
Speaker 1: special team's core guy everywhere he's been. So who has
Speaker 1: better footwork because he for sure, at least based off
Speaker 1: of what I've seen in OTA's now And I did
Speaker 1: tweet this out the other day. Let me gets really quick,
Speaker 1: because he's played. You're You're one hundred percent right the
Speaker 1: I tweeted out the other day in my Ota notes
Speaker 1: that I wasn't impressed with Curse. It was the footwork
Speaker 1: and just pace. That's those are both things that can
Speaker 1: be fixed by the time even training camp comes around.
Speaker 1: So those are very very temporary things. He didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: like that job of discussion. Yeah we did. We had
Speaker 1: a little get together on that one, and I mean
Speaker 1: I told him, I was like, dude, it's just Sota's,
Speaker 1: no big deal. You're gonna be fine. It was just
Speaker 1: an observation and so it was quick, a quick little conversation.
Speaker 1: I do believe Curse will be on the team. I
Speaker 1: think he will be on the team. And the reason
Speaker 1: why is also the day after that practice, I mean,
Speaker 1: he had another good practice from what I hear. I mean,
Speaker 1: we weren't able to watch it, but I hear there
Speaker 1: were good things that that that next practice. So maybe
Speaker 1: it was just a a bad day. And hopefully that's
Speaker 1: the case, because I want him to succeed in that
Speaker 1: regard and I think he will be on the team.
Speaker 1: But you're right, then it comes down to Thompson. Is
Speaker 1: Thompson a good enough special teams player to keep around
Speaker 1: now to play safety? Competition? Competition, that's everything. That's everything
Speaker 1: we've been asking for. It's mukuamu. And by the way,
Speaker 1: this is I don't see, I do not Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can cut him. Yeah, he's just he's long, he has
Speaker 1: great footwork. Right, he's a sixth round pick. It's not
Speaker 1: like they have anything invested. He gets flex. He's a
Speaker 1: college cornerback exactly, who can help either spot. His footwork
Speaker 1: shows that he was a cornerback. We showed last year
Speaker 1: though with Reggie Robinson that same exact wasn't I know,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't valued the same way. So why do
Speaker 1: you think it will change. We haven't brought because he's taller. No,
Speaker 1: we haven't brought. Well, I think he's just a better player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's a better athlete. Reggie Robinson was a
Speaker 1: fourth round pick though, and Mcam, I completely understand that.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at god man for man, I think
Speaker 1: you got a better athlete. And is it you, Dogie Robins?
Speaker 1: Is that just recency bias? Or is that legitimate? Like
Speaker 1: side by side? Is that what you see? What else?
Speaker 1: Can what else do I have to judge it by?
Speaker 1: I mean when I look on the field. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: I look on the field and I look at both
Speaker 1: of those guys, Reggie Robinson, no disrespect. He looks like
Speaker 1: another guy out there different. Yes, yes, stands out substantially,
Speaker 1: not on his side and his and his and just
Speaker 1: his stature right. But but also, like I keep going
Speaker 1: back to his footwork. You don't get that footwork at
Speaker 1: that size of player. You do not. It's not common.
Speaker 1: It is not a it's not normal for guys to
Speaker 1: be that big and have that kind of footwork. Now,
Speaker 1: when you get the pads on, let's see how he hits.
Speaker 1: Let's see is he gonna bring it when he gets
Speaker 1: some pads on. Right when we get to the when
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game and some of that, maybe he doesn't play
Speaker 1: that much in Pittsburgh game, but some of the other games.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna come up and put it and hit somebody?
Speaker 1: That's when you get to tell, Okay, if this boy
Speaker 1: can hit, oh, he has to be on his team.
Speaker 1: How hard is it to play safety as a rookie
Speaker 1: in this league? For what they're gonna ask him to do.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that hard. He'd be a special
Speaker 1: teams guy. Yeah, But to get in the lineup, would
Speaker 1: you do you? I mean, do you think you can
Speaker 1: compete for that spider? I think they just trying to
Speaker 1: develop him and getting ready for I think, at at
Speaker 1: probably any position. Make sure I stand behind this statement
Speaker 1: more than any position in football. I think it's easier
Speaker 1: to be to make the roster as a backup safety.
Speaker 1: I go with that just based off of developmental yes, potential, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: and he's everything that your future needs. I mean, we
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time talking about Errol Thomas and
Speaker 1: a lot of other guys coming in in safety, and
Speaker 1: if you got a young dog on your roster, you
Speaker 1: know you could you could bury that whole conversation right now.
Speaker 1: The guy you got you need is already on your
Speaker 1: roster and I'm taking a step further. You know, in
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's system, the guy that's that free safety, he's lurking.
Speaker 1: I mean he can. There's so many different ways that
Speaker 1: you can use your free safety sideline. The sideline in
Speaker 1: this system, and you talk about four that with feet
Speaker 1: like his, he's covering a lot of ground quickly. So
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be, like I said, when these
Speaker 1: guys get to two of days, it's gonna be a battle.
Speaker 1: How tall is somebody's six four when they put both arms, Uh,
Speaker 1: they're tall shack size. I'm not gonna say that's a
Speaker 1: hard ball to get. I'm just saying, you know you're
Speaker 1: coming from depth, where you're coming from depth. We get
Speaker 1: that dude run a side on the side line and
Speaker 1: he goes up to go grab the ball. Right, you
Speaker 1: factor in his vertical plus it's probably what we call
Speaker 1: it nine feet. He puts his arm up, called it
Speaker 1: nine feet, kay, right when he jumps up, Dude, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's huge. It's huge. Are gonna make me get
Speaker 1: out my arm length on my my draft for uh?
Speaker 1: For guys like Mukuamu. That's why I think because he
Speaker 1: though based off at heckmus point. That's why I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be the starter at safety, and now
Speaker 1: we've we've named our entire starting secondary in this segment.
Speaker 1: So that's why I think he will be the starter
Speaker 1: because of what dan Quinn expects out of free safety
Speaker 1: and what he could potentially be. So that's where I'm at. Ultimately, Now,
Speaker 1: when we come back Talking Cowboys, We're gonna keep talking
Speaker 1: about expectations, managing expectations heading into training camp since this
Speaker 1: is our final show. But what are the expectations for
Speaker 1: Dak returning from surgery. We're gonna hit that next when
Speaker 1: we come back on Talking Cowboys. The Cowboys Way, we're
Speaker 1: sixteen Hall of Famers and five championships, shows us what
Speaker 1: success looks like. Where turkey is always the second best
Speaker 1: part of Thanksgiving Day, where we are all defined by
Speaker 1: one single thing, the star, where we as fans know
Speaker 1: it's our job to keep the tradition going. Bank of
Speaker 1: America is proud to be the official bank of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and to support the quest of living life
Speaker 1: The Cowboys Way. Copyright twenty twenty Bank of America Corporation. Honey,
Speaker 1: Big News, Gary, Are you okay? Oh? I'm not Gary anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm Jackie Flash. What see? I want the latest smartphone,
Speaker 1: but the best deals are only for new customers. So
Speaker 1: to get a new customer deal, I changed my name
Speaker 1: to Jackie Flash. Okay, but the best smartphone deals at
Speaker 1: AT and T for everyone, new and existing customers. That's huge.
Speaker 1: Then guess who's getting a deal. Is it Jackie Flash,
Speaker 1: Jackie Flash? It's not complicated at AT and t our
Speaker 1: best smartphone deals are for everyone. Restrictions apply. Is it
Speaker 1: att dot com for details? New Doctor Peppers zero sugar.
Speaker 1: You deserve it. I do deserve that. You deserve decadent
Speaker 1: flavor without sugar, and a day at the beach without
Speaker 1: sand getting everywhere, and a relaxing bath that your children
Speaker 1: don't interrupt. I deserve all that. It's really just a
Speaker 1: visual metaphor for doctor Pepper zero sugar. Everything you want,
Speaker 1: nothing you don't a visual metaphor on the radio. I
Speaker 1: do deserve that Doctor Pepper zero sugar, the zero you
Speaker 1: deserve is finally here. Hi, I'm Clid Tulison with you,
Speaker 1: not at agg in turf. Cooler weather makes it easier
Speaker 1: to work outdoors, and we can make it even easier
Speaker 1: with our Buccaroo package that features a thirty twenty five
Speaker 1: E twenty five horsepower tractor with a loader, rotary cutter,
Speaker 1: box blade and a trailer for two ninety five per month.
Speaker 1: And the price you see is the price you'll pay,
Speaker 1: No surprises, what could be easier? Visit United egginturf dot
Speaker 1: com Offer ins February first, twenty twenty one. Restrictions apply
Speaker 1: see dealer for details. Now let's get to work to
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys from home or you're cheering in the stands.
Speaker 1: With lenses you can see every exciting play book an
Speaker 1: appointment at your local or experts and see what selor
Speaker 1: can do for you. See more, do more on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Chris Beam is not here so yet Shot, I didn't
Speaker 1: throw too Scott. It's uh, that's the thing good. See more,
Speaker 1: do more or there we go. Now we've got the
Speaker 1: camera change fantastic Scott Pursell in the back running things
Speaker 1: this week running the ship. Chris Beam is looking like
Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical commercial right now, running on the bags. He'll
Speaker 1: play a cornhole, yea plenty of corp. Yes he does.
Speaker 1: He deserves a vacation. That was heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back. I'm Kyle Yeomen's final segment of Talking
Speaker 1: Cowboys prior to training camp, and we'll be back, of
Speaker 1: course whenever the season starts getting ramped up again, and
Speaker 1: then then we get to go all day, every weekday.
Speaker 1: How about that? I love it back to normal. So
Speaker 1: I got another question that we didn't get to hit
Speaker 1: in the first I guess mail back Monday question or
Speaker 1: a segment I should say, Kenneth ask on Twitter out
Speaker 1: of surgery, what are realistic expectations for mister Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: As we know Cowboys fans will always have those insanely
Speaker 1: high expectations, But what do you think is legitimately feasible?
Speaker 1: Do you think that there is a legitimate I guess
Speaker 1: roll back on what we should expect from Dak? And
Speaker 1: I think this is a great way to cap off
Speaker 1: the off season of shows. Mister Rob Phillis will start
Speaker 1: with you. I think he's gonna be Dak. I really,
Speaker 1: I really believe that the only thing that would hold
Speaker 1: him back is if he's having problems with that ankle,
Speaker 1: and there's been no indication that that's going to be
Speaker 1: an issue for him. So if he's got his offensive line.
Speaker 1: He's got wide receivers to throw too, He's got a
Speaker 1: running back to hand it off to. Oh wait, he
Speaker 1: has all those things. Yeah, So I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be the moment he has at the moment. At the moment,
Speaker 1: he does. But we've also seen him win games and
Speaker 1: put up big numbers without starting tackles. I mean, he
Speaker 1: can do it with some guys missing. But to me,
Speaker 1: aside from just getting his timing down and getting some
Speaker 1: of the rust off, I expect him guys to be
Speaker 1: just like himself. Out of one hundred percent, you could
Speaker 1: go higher if you think he's gonna be better, you
Speaker 1: could go lower. Where do you think he would be?
Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance to go higher based
Speaker 1: off potential health around him. I think I think he does.
Speaker 1: I just know, just everybody you talked about how hard
Speaker 1: he works, and I know that might sound cliche, but
Speaker 1: I just know that he's gonna put himself in position
Speaker 1: to be as best as he can be. And he's
Speaker 1: he hasn't missed a day of rehab. He's been here,
Speaker 1: he's been doing everything he's been asked to do and more.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine. I really, I truly
Speaker 1: believe that, you know, to Kenneth to answer you a question,
Speaker 1: I expect Dak to be a dog this year. I
Speaker 1: don't expect game manager Dak. I expect for Dak to
Speaker 1: be playmaker Dak. You know. I think he's been rewarded
Speaker 1: by the franchise to show that, you know, the value
Speaker 1: that they place on him, which is a whole lot,
Speaker 1: you know, and he realizes, like he said, pressure is
Speaker 1: a privilege in the in the press conference, and I
Speaker 1: just look for him to take those strides to be
Speaker 1: on that next level. I talked about him being cerebral
Speaker 1: and getting into those upper echelon the quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 1: I think that's what he's looking at. I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: he's thinking MVP level play. He has all of the weapons, mean,
Speaker 1: more weapons than anybody, so he has every reason to
Speaker 1: be successful and he should be, you know, chomping at
Speaker 1: the bit to have this opportunity to compete in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. Yeah, I agree. I think I think the
Speaker 1: expectations UM should be the same. Um. I'm probably the
Speaker 1: only person that doesn't think that he's one hundred percent
Speaker 1: right now. I think, No, I'm with you, okay, but
Speaker 1: it's not by a lot. I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a massive drawback. It's not a massive drawback. I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing him in the preseason. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to seeing him in the prema. We're not playing
Speaker 1: Dack in the preseason. What's the matter? You have to
Speaker 1: play much, not a little bit, series, not a lot,
Speaker 1: but you do. You need to see because it's one
Speaker 1: thing to to put somebody in the situation, and I
Speaker 1: don't want everybody get mad at them. Just being real, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's one thing to happen with him. I'm saying, what
Speaker 1: much else? Y'all know I always do. He um right now,
Speaker 1: he's kind of it's a protective bubble, right, they have
Speaker 1: he has a bubble around. He's bubble. He's a bubble
Speaker 1: boy right now, right, and like it's signed bold episode. Right.
Speaker 1: He's done amazing job. He's amazing. He's done amazing job.
Speaker 1: He works hard. I've seen him work hard, right, I've
Speaker 1: seen him doing all the training stuff with Britt and
Speaker 1: that does grinding, right, grinding. He's doing everything possible to
Speaker 1: be one hundred percent deck, even when he feels like
Speaker 1: he is one hundred percent. He's still not one hundred
Speaker 1: percent until he reacts, right. He hasn't reacted yet. And
Speaker 1: when I say that, as I'm talking about a defensive lineman,
Speaker 1: he right coming off the end, right, dipping and ripping
Speaker 1: on on somebody and then coming at his ankles right
Speaker 1: and being able to actually like plant instinctively and get
Speaker 1: that get out of it right. Everything that he's doing
Speaker 1: right now is boot out this way, boot out that scripted. Right,
Speaker 1: it's very scripted, That's what I'm saying. It's a bubble right,
Speaker 1: it's kind it's kind of protected out. They're building his
Speaker 1: confidence very very much so that they should they have
Speaker 1: to do that, but he won't be a hundred and
Speaker 1: he knows this until he actually has to react and
Speaker 1: avoid some defenders and go out there and make some place.
Speaker 1: Once he does that, he'll be one hundred percent physically
Speaker 1: and mentally. That's really interesting he said that because I
Speaker 1: mentioned that psychological element last week, and he said that
Speaker 1: about a month ago. That's when he started getting more
Speaker 1: and more confidence, like I'm good, I'm back, and he
Speaker 1: said some of the stuff he's doing rehab because he's
Speaker 1: still in the rehab process to a certain extent is
Speaker 1: reactive stuff, not not all scripted. But until somebody's chasing
Speaker 1: and he wants to knock you to the ground and
Speaker 1: knock you on your ass, Yeah, you know that's that's
Speaker 1: a different story. Sure, until you're facing other teams that
Speaker 1: want to do what happened in Week five of last
Speaker 1: year to you as a quarterback. I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: plane the one hundred percent reason I think you put
Speaker 1: this beautifully, Isaiah, because I'm not it's not necessarily Dak
Speaker 1: who I'm not one hundred percent on. It's just the
Speaker 1: situation because he will get to one hundred percent. I'm
Speaker 1: confidence it will get to that point, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: take a minute. It may take a game, it may
Speaker 1: take the preseason. Who knows. It could also take three
Speaker 1: or four games to get back into that rhythm. Hopefully
Speaker 1: it's shorter than you think. Hopefully it just takes the
Speaker 1: preseason and then by the time you face the Bunk
Speaker 1: Buccaneers on Thursday night Week one, you feel much better
Speaker 1: about it and he's able to react and have that
Speaker 1: same kind of instinct. But it's it's a change. And
Speaker 1: then plus on top of the injury, anytime you take
Speaker 1: a significant amount of time off from your job, doing
Speaker 1: it a certain way, and doing it without question question
Speaker 1: mark in the back of your head. You're going to
Speaker 1: have an adjustment period. That's why knocking off the rust
Speaker 1: is such a cliche in sports. There's going to be
Speaker 1: a little bit of rust with Dak Prescott. It's just
Speaker 1: whether or not how quickly he can get rid of
Speaker 1: that and knock it off. Yeah, I'm I'm all into
Speaker 1: limiting exposure right now, and I believe that we're gonna
Speaker 1: give bubble boy. We got it right now, We're gonna
Speaker 1: stay with that. But the thing is is that I
Speaker 1: want I want. I mean, you know that he's a
Speaker 1: pro's pro. He knows how to prepare for games now,
Speaker 1: and it is going into a sixth season, so that's
Speaker 1: weird six six season, so an Zeke. Yes, So it's
Speaker 1: not a situation. He's not in a situation where he
Speaker 1: doesn't know what to expect, what's going to happen. Yes,
Speaker 1: last year was a one off, but as far as
Speaker 1: guarding him and getting him two week one, that's that's
Speaker 1: what I'm all about. But I also believe in what
Speaker 1: you're saying. You know, his health psychologically, where he is
Speaker 1: once he feels that pressure when someone rolls up on
Speaker 1: his ankle. What if someone has him in the grasp
Speaker 1: and you know that Dak, with all that strength that
Speaker 1: he has me, he looks like the heavyweight champion of
Speaker 1: the world. Right now, He's still gonna be Dak. He's
Speaker 1: gonna run through all of those things. I don't see
Speaker 1: him changing his game. No, I don't either. But to
Speaker 1: your point, that's a difficult thing, right, that's a difficult
Speaker 1: position you're in as not only a head coach, but
Speaker 1: as a GM and area everybody else who makes decisions
Speaker 1: around here is you have to protect him, right and
Speaker 1: your your job is to get him to a situation
Speaker 1: where he can help you win ball games. At the
Speaker 1: same time, he knows he's not one hundred percent until
Speaker 1: he overcomes those hurdles. He knows it. You mean, do
Speaker 1: you mean physically or men mentally? Just it's physically. I
Speaker 1: can't check that box to say that I'm one hundred
Speaker 1: percent until I react to a couple of things instinctively
Speaker 1: on the field. I could feel as good as I
Speaker 1: want to, but I can't check that box until Kyle's
Speaker 1: jumping out my dog on ankles and I hit him
Speaker 1: with the U nasty you know what I'm saying, like, no,
Speaker 1: you okay? Now now back, I'm back. All the brown
Speaker 1: drills bands I want to, right, and I've done those personally,
Speaker 1: I've done those and you feel good, right, But there's
Speaker 1: still that question mark. There's a freaking question mark in
Speaker 1: your head. Man, The dog on riddler is in there,
Speaker 1: and you just gotta and you have to do your
Speaker 1: best to react to them. Once you do, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm good physically, and guess what, now, I could check
Speaker 1: the mental box too, because now I can, right, I
Speaker 1: don't have to question whether or not I'm healthy right now.
Speaker 1: We talked about this with Laton Vanderesh last year. He
Speaker 1: did that hit. Oh when we got it against Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cups against Minnesota. That's when Layton Vanderesh came in and said, bam,
Speaker 1: I'm back now. He ended up getting I don't want that.
Speaker 1: I don't want that hit. I don't want that. No,
Speaker 1: But that's the same thing about that I said. I said,
Speaker 1: Vanderesh could look as good as he wants to, he
Speaker 1: can feel as good as he wants to, but until
Speaker 1: he has to step up in a hole. And what
Speaker 1: happened we were watching the game live together and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: here we go. It is here we go boom, and
Speaker 1: that what happened that had to come out the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had come up the game, but that but that
Speaker 1: let him know, Oh, that box is not checked yet
Speaker 1: his box with as good as he felt, that box
Speaker 1: was not checked because mentally he frowze up right and
Speaker 1: physically he wasn't ready. And those are two things that
Speaker 1: you cannot do. No, we're talking about the hit and
Speaker 1: then yeah, see and I was thinking when he finally
Speaker 1: when he came back from that, yeah, and he was like, okay,
Speaker 1: now I am back and he hit put the hits
Speaker 1: on goal line against Dalvin Cook. That was the positive one, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the first week. Great point. There's two one, hun.
Speaker 1: You could go back to both of those plays negatively
Speaker 1: against the Rams, positively against the Vikings in the middle
Speaker 1: of the season. That's the way that it works on
Speaker 1: a player that is second time checkerbox, second time check
Speaker 1: first time. He did not question. That's a great point.
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's a better way to close
Speaker 1: out the show in that regard, because that's that's what
Speaker 1: Dack's gonna have to go through and we're gonna see
Speaker 1: it of course here over the next couple of months,
Speaker 1: but until we come back, I'm talking cowboys, uh in
Speaker 1: the middle of training camp. We're not exactly sure when
Speaker 1: those shows will start, but we will have plenty of
Speaker 1: content on Dallas Cowboys dot com. At my Harrison's now
Speaker 1: writing for Dallas Cowboys dot com. Chet He's doing a
Speaker 1: great job. Yeah, go check it out. He's got Thursday
Speaker 1: notes who turned heads on Thursday on the website. He
Speaker 1: does a great job with that. He'll do some more
Speaker 1: writing as well. I don't want to leave, Kyle, I know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave. I don't want this to leave.
Speaker 1: I don't want this to be Oh I can't. I
Speaker 1: don't have a live guys like so, we just got
Speaker 1: to come back next Monday. Even if we don't do
Speaker 1: a show, it's gonna be you in here. It's not
Speaker 1: even gonna be anybody camera. That's me. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: right back here doing the symphony in your head. He's
Speaker 1: doing it in the dark. Oh man. Rob of course
Speaker 1: is doing great stuff on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Anything
Speaker 1: crazy coming up you, You've got a couple big things
Speaker 1: on your plate. I don't know if you can do
Speaker 1: big things. Deep Blue is back. Finish Yeah, I need to.
Speaker 1: I don't have a life either. I gotta finish that.
Speaker 1: So before any type I can even think about vacations.
Speaker 1: You need a voice. You need a voice or something.
Speaker 1: Holedge Boy will so the Soultry voice. So heck my
Speaker 1: hand smooth. Then Isaiah is doing great stuff as always.
Speaker 1: We've got a new show debuting on Thursday, Hit Sticks. Oh.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that that was getting debuts on Thursday. Yes, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's already done. I didn't know about it. We've got
Speaker 1: episodes one and two. They're gonna come out every Thursday
Speaker 1: up until That's where I'm gonna get that twenty dollars from.
Speaker 1: You want to you want to explain with what Hit
Speaker 1: Sticks is. I'm on it with But I thought he
Speaker 1: got tossed man. But it's good to hear that we're
Speaker 1: rolling with it. Um now, Hit Sticks essentially we're myself,
Speaker 1: Bury Bury Church and Uh and mister kay Kate why Uh.
Speaker 1: We're doing a show where in which we are teaching
Speaker 1: the game through the lens of former players. But we're
Speaker 1: teething it using Madden Wow, using technology using technology sports
Speaker 1: Baby came up with that concept needs a raise. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: they do. Absolutely. It definitely wasn't me. I'm the producer
Speaker 1: of it, but I think Eric was the one. Eric
Speaker 1: already has a RAI. But we've we've got plenty of
Speaker 1: content if you want to keep up with us. He's
Speaker 1: at Heckma Underscore Harrison, he is at I am stand
Speaker 1: Back on Twitter, Rob Phillips three on Twitter, and then
Speaker 1: I'm at Kyle Underscore Yeoman's. But that's gonna do it
Speaker 1: for us, this on Talking Cowboys. We will be back
Speaker 1: in about a month or so training camp on the way.
Speaker 1: But until next time, for all these guys, for Scott Purcell,
Speaker 1: Chris Beam who's not here, we're gonna thank them anyway.
Speaker 1: As Aaron Gonzalez, Happy birthday Aaron. By the way, I'm
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman saying so long. We'll see you next time.
Speaker 1: I Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.