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Speaker 1: And Tie Janner Rovin Steve, welcome back, my friend.

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Speaker 2: How are you? I'm doing so well, Tied. I'm doing

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Speaker 2: And so now that I'm back with my computer and

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Speaker 2: I couldn't be more thrilled to catch up on all

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Speaker 2: things I guess college football news briefly and then into

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Speaker 1: We do have some bangers, don't we absolutely? And going

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Speaker 1: We got some bangers here to talk. We were going

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Speaker 1: It was not recordable, is what I would say. Well,

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Speaker 1: get into twenty twenty six, the schedule is all jacked up. Man,

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Speaker 1: I predicted a Penn State Clemson matchup in the national championship.

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Speaker 2: We should talk about the Michigan Wolverines amateur football program.

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Speaker 1: You know what the roar means, don't you? The roar

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Speaker 1: Be an adult. He will do that almost immediately. The

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Speaker 2: ground in the next year or two, he pays for itself.

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Speaker 2: Let us know your thoughts, solid Burbo at gmail dot com. Dan,

433
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Speaker 2: you want to talk some playoff games. I can't wait.

434
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Speaker 1: Til we got four of them. We got four of

435
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Speaker 1: them for you. It is a college football playoff quarterfinals.

436
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Speaker 1: These games are bangers. I have a few questions for

437
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Speaker 1: you before we get started, pure higher level stuff.

438
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Speaker 2: Okay, I can't wait.

439
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: I want you to answer them vaguely. Okay, generally, I

440
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: don't want you to give away your picks or your

441
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Speaker 1: predictions or anything like that, but just lay the land

442
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: type stuff. Okay, three questions. Are you ready?

443
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Speaker 2: I'm ready? One is they're a team.

444
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Speaker 1: Were there a group of teams among these eight that

445
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: we're going to discuss here today that you looked at it,

446
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: looked at the matchup and you said, ah, they can't win,

447
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: they cannot win this game.

448
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: No, there is not a team of this eight that

449
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: I look at and say this is this moment is

450
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: too big, This matchup is too big for them. Whether

451
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: it's roster, whether it's situation, whether it's matchup whatever. No,

452
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: there's not one of those eight.

453
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Speaker 1: That was the first thing that I thought of when

454
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Speaker 1: I went through all these matchups. There was not a

455
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Speaker 1: single team in this group of eight that I looked

456
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Speaker 1: at and I said, ah, there's no way they're completely overmatch.

457
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 1: We had that in the previous round we did. That

458
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: was the argument against the way that the playoff is

459
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Speaker 1: set up.

460
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Speaker 2: Don't get me started.

461
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Speaker 1: Time that a whole out of the episode, right, Yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: But there weren't any of those matchups here, which I

463
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Speaker 1: thought was a good sign, at least for us at home.

464
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 2: It seems that everybody has something that, if they are

465
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Speaker 2: operating at to their fullest, can do that something well

466
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Speaker 2: enough to win two.

467
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Speaker 1: This is a huge storyline last year this year, did

468
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: you look at any of these matchups and factor in

469
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Speaker 1: the rust factor? I've got your quoting.

470
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Speaker 2: I studied rust this morning. I wanted to get it right.

471
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: The oxidation, oxidization. You can't even get the word right.

472
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 2: I can't even get the word right. But yeah, the

473
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Speaker 2: presence of moisture getting that yellowish brown on iron or steel. Yeah.

474
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Speaker 1: Did you just want to go back to your vacation

475
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Speaker 1: spot and let me know when you're in the right

476
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Speaker 1: headspace to do an episode of this magnitude?

477
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Speaker 2: Don't threaten me with a good time, ty.

478
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Speaker 1: How many of the matchups did you look at and

479
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Speaker 1: seriously consider rust?

480
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Speaker 2: All?

481
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Speaker 1: All?

482
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all of these matchups I seriously considered rust. Obviously,

483
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Speaker 2: we're going to have a layoff four teams, Like, what

484
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Speaker 2: is it going to be? It's a layoff for Ohio State,

485
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Speaker 2: a layoff for Georgia, a layoff for Indiana, and a

486
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Speaker 2: layoff for Texas. Tech of somewhere in the vicinity of

487
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Speaker 2: twenty six twenty seven days right, Third and.

488
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Speaker 1: Final question, how many games did you look at and

489
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Speaker 1: you felt you were on the fence. You might still

490
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Speaker 1: be on the fence about who the winner is going

491
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Speaker 1: to be? Not points spread right outright winner two of

492
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Speaker 1: these games. I'm on two as well. We're going to

493
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Speaker 1: agree again, which is bad news for you, but I

494
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Speaker 1: already know which two they're going to be.

495
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's start at New Year's Eve.

496
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Speaker 1: As you know, we got this great new tradition where

497
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Speaker 1: they play a game of New Year's Eve in our

498
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Speaker 1: Bowl bingo matchup. As one of my thy goofy props,

499
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Speaker 1: I had that this game will finish after midnight as

500
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Speaker 1: something that people could select.

501
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, midnight Eastern.

502
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Speaker 1: In then Eastern It would take a lot. But of course,

503
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Speaker 1: of talking about the Good Year Cotton Bolt Classic, Dan,

504
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: it is going to be called by Dave Passion, Dusty Devorceek,

505
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: and Quinn Kessnick down on the sidelines grew his hair out,

506
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: kind of threw me for a loop earlier this year.

507
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Speaker 2: Oh nice, okay.

508
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: Seven thirty on ESPN. It is the ten seed the

509
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes. It is the two seed Ohio State Buckeyes.

510
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State currently favored by about nine points, depends where

511
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: you look. I've seen it at eight and a half.

512
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: I've seen it at nine and a half. Let's go

513
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Speaker 1: with nine. But the difference, okay, clean nine, you're over.

514
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: Under is forty two and a half.

515
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Speaker 1: For what it's worth, the sp plus has Ohio State

516
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Speaker 1: favor by ten and a half points in this game.

517
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Speaker 2: And notably, the winner is going to play in.

518
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: The Verbo Fiesta Bowl. Verbo not a sponsor. Could be

519
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: next Thursday or the following Thursday, I should say, which

520
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: would be January the eighth. These teams have only played

521
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: five times in their history. Ohio State leads the series

522
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Speaker 1: three to two, although technically it is two to two

523
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Speaker 1: because the win in twenty ten was vacated the other

524
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Speaker 1: kind of vacation, which I hate. I hate. I will

525
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: say that this game gave me a very strong sense

526
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Speaker 1: of nostalgia because some of us are old enough to

527
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Speaker 1: remember the two thousand and three Fiesta Bowl. That's the

528
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Speaker 1: one that Ohio State won. I don't know if you

529
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Speaker 1: remember that game.

530
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: That game had a heavy influence in me as a

532
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: college football fan. Yeah, for sure, not just like the

533
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: drama of it, but like the Willis mcgahey injury in

534
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, which I still remember like it was yesterday.

535
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: So many memories for me came from that game, and

536
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Speaker 1: I think played like a large part in me doing

537
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Speaker 1: this now because I just remember the drama that surrounded it.

538
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember where I watched from for sure.

539
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: So my big question about this game is whether we're

540
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Speaker 1: going to see another game of pick a ball?

541
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Speaker 2: We got too lost in the way that we saw

542
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: from last week Miami Tech A.

543
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: And m Yeah.

544
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Speaker 2: Well, whether it's not a factor, it's indoors, and I

545
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: thought Weather it was a major contributing wa actor to

546
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: some struggles. Yeah, sure, And we saw kicking disaster is

547
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: last week or I guess last round, whatever it is.

548
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: I think it's a worthwhile question. Continue it's a pick

549
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: a ball question. But we got two great teams.

550
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: They just happen to be among the least explosive in

551
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: college football. So with that as the backdrop, Dan, what

552
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: comes to mind first when you're trying to break this

553
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: game down, where's your head at?

554
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 2: Is Ohio State not explosive this year? I don't have

555
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: it in front of me. No, Oh, okay, they were.

556
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: They were more delivered this year.

557
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: They have explosive players.

558
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: That's true. I'm looking at it right now. Yeah, yards

559
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 2: per successful play one hundred and eighth in the country.

560
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is which I think is probably going to

561
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: be weird for some people to hear. Like, we don't

562
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Speaker 1: really talk about Ohio state.

563
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: In those states, it was a lot of heavier sets

564
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: this year. They played slower, so they weren't able to

565
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: sort of maybe generate plays that ended up with misstackles

566
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: because they're playing quicker and wearing down defense whatever. And

567
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: that was by design that they have fresh legs for January.

568
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: You know what, How they beat Washington, how they beat

569
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: whoever during the regular season is not as important as

570
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: how they beat in this case, Miami as we head

571
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: into the new year. All worthwhile. So do you want

572
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: my read on this? I do.

573
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Speaker 1: I do. And one final point on the explosiveness thing,

574
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Speaker 1: it's not everything. It is one of the indicators that

575
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: I know you and I like to look at. And

576
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: it certainly doesn't mean that they don't have big plays

577
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: in them. Okay, we know that they've got big players

578
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: who can make big plays. But if we take the

579
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: overall profile of what Ohio State did this season, either

580
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: because of the heavier sets or playing slower, or you know,

581
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: maybe a very deliberate effort to try and minimize how

582
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: many plays they were running, knowing that they were in

583
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: this thing for the long haul. Whatever reason. In terms

584
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: of all the explosiveness numbers that we look at, they

585
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: came up much lower this year. Miami, maybe for a

586
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: different reason, is sort of similarly formulated. So with that

587
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: as the backdrop, yes, take it.

588
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So if we were finally able to see a

589
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: weakness in Ohio State, and there's conversations about the Ohio

590
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: State offensive line during the season, you know, as they

591
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: were up and down running the ball. I thought they

592
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: got to a pretty nice place by the end of

593
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: the season running the ball. But offensive line and the

594
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: way it was exposed against Indiana, who had Julian Sayin

595
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: on the run and had him confused, had this offensive

596
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 2: line they had to make changes at halftime dealing with

597
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: a beat up offensive line on the inside a little bit,

598
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Speaker 2: I believe that taking that question into a game against

599
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: Miami's defensive front should be worrying to a certain level.

600
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Speaker 2: To say, Miami's defensive front, especially what they are on

601
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Speaker 2: the edges. To say that they're legit is sort of

602
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: under selling. This is an excellent group that can get

603
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: after a quarterback and cause havoc. Yeah, and so my

604
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: main focus on what Ohio State does when they have

605
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: the ball is if they do struggle, how do they adjust?

606
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: How do they adjust to Miami's chaos in a good way?

607
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: Is it a screen game thing? Is it, you know,

608
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: going to the perimeter a little bit more? Is it,

609
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: you know, getting the ball out quickly? Is it more

610
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: rpo stuff? That to me is a huge question for

611
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: Brian Hartline and Ryan Day as they call this offense.

612
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: Brian Hartlin, by the way, also the coach of USF.

613
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: As they prepare for this game, you have all sorts

614
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: of fun. You mentioned the National Championship rematch from twenty

615
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: plus years ago. But like Jeremiah Smith is a Miami

616
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: in South Florida legend in this one. So there's gonna

617
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: be a motion there from their most explosive player. I

618
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: think the key for Miami right is possessing the ball.

619
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Speaker 2: They're coming off a game with Mark Fletcher's Game of

620
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: his life on offense. I think when Miami has the ball,

621
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: it's what are they doing outside of the wizardry of

622
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: Malachai Tony. Last game it was Mark Fletcher. I think

623
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: Miami fans are still kind of if you, you know,

624
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: pulled them aside and say, how'd you feel about that

625
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,239
Speaker 2: play calling against Texas A and M I don't think

626
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: they're super pleased. How long it took to just give

627
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: Mark Fletcher the ball on the inside with how he

628
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: was running. And so what does Miami look like creatively?

629
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: What do they look like on third and fourth and short?

630
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: How obvious are they in the red zone? This good

631
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: red zone offensive team. I just I'm not sure I

632
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: see away for Miami to win this game if the

633
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: final score isn't similar to what it was in the

634
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: the Big Ten championship game. Yeah, p Ohio state that

635
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: it's in that seventeen thirteen because I just the lack

636
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: of creative pop from this Miami offense outside of feeding

637
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: Malachai Tony worries me a little bit. That like we

638
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: talk about winter wonders and I just don't think, you know,

639
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: I like some of the younger guys or Art Pringle,

640
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: who was not a factor against Texas A and m

641
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: There's a lot to love about this Miami team, but

642
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: do they have guys who match up with this Ohio

643
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: State defense in a neither like fifty to fifty way

644
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: or you can't hang with this guy way. And it's

645
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: hard to put that put a plural on guy there,

646
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: and so yeah, I just I think you need that

647
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: to get to twenty seven points to twenty four points

648
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: against this Ohio State defense. And short of Miami fully

649
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: controlling the rhythm of this game and slowing it down

650
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: and capitalizing the red zone, you know, turning fourth and

651
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: ones into first and goals kind of thing and punching

652
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: it in, I just it's hard for me to see

653
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: a way for Miami to get to that whatever twenty

654
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: three twenty six point threshold. And look, Indiana had that blueprint.

655
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: You can beat Ohio State and keep it a low

656
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: scoring game and win those moments and hit those big

657
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: plays and rush the hell out of the passer. I

658
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: just don't think Miami's built for it in this specific way.

659
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: I don't think the rust is going to be a

660
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: huge factor for Ohio State. They showed last year not

661
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: playing in the Big Ten championship game, came out, you know,

662
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: on fire at home against Tennessee and then a go

663
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: again against Oregon. I think their plan is going to

664
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: be sound, but this is not an Ohio State team

665
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 2: that was built like last year's team, and in terms

666
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: of experience, in terms of pop all around. You know,

667
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: those running backs were terrific for Ohio State last year

668
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: in a way that like bo Jackson can be sometimes

669
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: but is not like the star of the show in

670
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: that same way. So I think Ohio State wins, but

671
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: I don't see them running away with it because of

672
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: Miami's defensive, defensive front. So yeah, in my heart, I

673
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: have this as like twenty one to fourteen Ohio State.

674
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, let me back up a little

675
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: bit please. A lot's been said this year about the

676
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State defense being a brick wall and it's probably

677
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: the best defense in the country. Would you agree with that?

678
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: I think so yeah.

679
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're incredible, and I'm super curious

680
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: to see how they fare against Miami's line and what

681
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: they throw at Carson Beck, and how they fare against

682
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: Malachai Tony and how they present some new wrinkles that

683
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: maybe can confuse what Miami is trying to do. That

684
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: to me is one chess match. I am most interested

685
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: in something that you mentioned earlier though, Okay, and that

686
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: is a different kind of challenge for this Ohio State

687
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: team because of the combination of Miami's physicality and aggressiveness upfront.

688
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: And this isn't to say they haven't played good defenses

689
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: this year, we know they have. I just think Miami

690
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: is a very different mix that's going to ask some

691
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: new questions of Ohio State. How is their line going

692
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: to deal with Ruben Bayin and a Keen Mesador. This

693
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: is a Miami front that is an absolute wrecking ball.

694
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: As you said, they're a havoc defense, And I brought

695
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: this up a little bit when Miami played Texas A

696
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: and m But Miami is top twenty in the nation

697
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: and blitz is per drop back. They're also really good

698
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: at getting pressure without blitzing. And furthermore, this is a

699
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: playmaking set secondary. You are not going to go out

700
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: there or an out athlete these guys. This is a

701
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: defensive athletes. So this for me is a really good

702
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: test of how good Ohio State really is offensive.

703
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: Miami's defense has a lot, They have a lot to

704
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: offer athletically on all three levels.

705
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: One percent, and so I think, like this is what

706
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: you want to see if you're getting to this stage

707
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: of the playoff. You want to see the best against

708
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: the best, and I think this is going to be

709
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: a really interesting test for that Ohio State offense. So

710
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you're saying one hundred percent. If anything,

711
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to reinforce it. I do think if

712
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: Miami's going to win, they need to play the kind

713
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: of game that they played against A and M. It

714
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: needs to be low scoring, it needs to be ugly,

715
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: and maybe we call it a rock fight, maybe you

716
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: call it a slug fest, maybe you call it defense

717
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: wins champ, whatever, whatever your preferred nomenclature. It needs to

718
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 1: be that style if Miami is going to win this game.

719
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: On the flip side, I have been on the fence

720
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: about this game. Yeah, I have been on the fence

721
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: about this game. And my biggest concern here is that

722
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: Miami isn't really explosive enough to challenge this Ohio State defense.

723
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: You know. The counterpoint is, while I said the same

724
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: thing against A and.

725
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: M you know, and they came away with more chunk

726
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: plays in that game.

727
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: They were the more explosive team against Texas A and

728
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: m It's a big part of why they won. I

729
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: just think this Ohio State defense has played at such

730
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: a high level. I think Matt Patricia has done an

731
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: excellent job. Never mind what we thought of the higher

732
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: when they made it before the season. He has clearly

733
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: worked out and I think they're going to be adding

734
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: new wrinkles to this one here that can confuse Carson Beck,

735
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: can maybe force him into taking some risks, which is

736
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: not something I feel great about. From Afar.

737
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: I would also add in terms of Miami's potential favor

738
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: is they have a clearly more seasoned quarderback in Carson Beck.

739
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: For whatever his mistakes have been this year, they do

740
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: Carson Beck has played in more big games. Yeah, Julian

741
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: Sayan's never started a playoff game, it's never won a

742
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 2: Big Ten championship at Ohio State. He's beaten good teams.

743
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 2: But in terms of a stage like this, Carson Beck

744
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: has been on it more. And so if you're asking

745
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: me who has like the potential for a more catastrophic

746
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: first quarter, I think it's Julian.

747
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: San couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more.

748
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: But to what degree this is in a shanti game, Dan,

749
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: I was this close to picking Miami out right, okay,

750
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 3: and it would not surprise.

751
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: Me at all.

752
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: Off the end actually ended up winning, Okay, but it

753
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: is about trust and.

754
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: Heaven strike me down. Yeah for saying what I'm.

755
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: About to say. Okay, which coach do you trust more

756
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: in a big game?

757
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: Well? Ryan Day? Yeah, trust Ryan Day.

758
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: Man.

759
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: Well there's also the not to cut you off, TI

760
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: continue if you want to talk more about Ryan Day.

761
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: I trust Ryan Day more than Crystal Ball in a

762
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: big game. I don't trust Carson Beck with the game

763
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: on the line, even though he is as he said

764
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: rightfully so he's a grizzled veteran at this point. And

765
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: I trust the Ohio State offense to find a big

766
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: play more when they need it than I do this

767
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: version of the Miami offense. Yeah, but I think it

768
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: is a close game. I think is a good game.

769
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: I do think it is more defense minded. I'm on

770
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 1: Ohio State twenty to sixteen. I've got the buck guys

771
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: moving on to the Fiesta Bowl. Okay.

772
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: So that's kind of one touchdown for Miami and three

773
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: field goals pending two touchdowns in a safety, I guess.

774
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, my only the concern to just expand on

775
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: the Julian Saying thing is like he's never played on

776
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: this level, and you're just like, we haven't seen it

777
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: from Juliansaye. Right, We saw it with you know, the

778
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: Michigan game. That was an impressive performance all things considered

779
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: in the weather. We saw them hold on against Texas

780
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: to start the season. We saw Julian Saying come up

781
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: short with the Ohio State offense at the end of

782
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: the Indiana game. But I'm going to go back to

783
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: my tried and true if it's a blowout, I just

784
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 2: don't see any way that Miami comes out on top

785
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: in a blowout. And that's generally where I and could

786
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: be wrong. Miami could win this game thirty four to ten.

787
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: But if you told me the final score was thirty

788
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: four to ten and I could bet one thousand dollars

789
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: on who has thirty four, I think I would go

790
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: with Ohio State without thinking about.

791
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: It right now? Yeah, all right, okay, let's go to

792
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: New Year's Day Dan twenty twenty six. All right, getting

793
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: hold like.

794
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: A fake year to me. By the way, here's a

795
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: quick sidebar between games this freaking playoffs take forever. Come on, guys,

796
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: let's figure out a way to get three rounds in

797
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: three weeks, get to New Year's enormous national championship, and

798
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: just celebrate a hell of a season. Like, Holy hell,

799
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: is this taken forever? The amount of time off like

800
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: the NFL teams have played five games in the time

801
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: it's taken to get from like the conference championship game

802
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: to the first and second round. It's insane.

803
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: Continue college football calendar is a popular point of contention.

804
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 2: It's insane the most a rhythmic like eleven, twelve, thirteen

805
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: days between playoff rounds.

806
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: You got too many bowl reps with the multicolored jackets

807
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: that need to get their cut and need to make

808
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: sure they're involved. And that's how we spread this out

809
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: and we make this as complicated as it is, and.

810
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean it's scared of TV stuff with the NFL, Like,

811
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: just play football and let everything fall into place.

812
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: Play every game on like a Wednesday, whatever it is is,

813
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: play it, wait ten days after the season whatever, every

814
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: game Wednesday after Wednesday after Wednesday, and then we're done. Yeah.

815
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: I think we'll get there. I think we'll get there.

816
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: I think we'll probably dump conference championships. Everybody will play

817
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: their twelve. We'll get the teams in. The playoff starts

818
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: the first week of December and goes and goes and goes,

819
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: and we're good.

820
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 1: Continue high noon, New Year's Day, ESPN Joe Tes Jesse

821
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: Palmer on the call. Number five seed your Oregon Ducks,

822
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: a two point favorite, squaring off against the number four

823
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: seed Texas Tech Red Raiders Big twelve Conference champion. You're

824
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: over under here is fifty three and one half points.

825
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: For what it's worth, The sp plus says that the

826
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: wrong team is favored. Texas Tech should be favored by

827
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: two and a half points. Okay, we can debate the

828
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: merits of that if we want. The winner here will

829
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: play in the Chick fil A Peach Bowl on Friday,

830
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: January the ninth of Note for your Oregon Ducks. They

831
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: are going to be playing this quarterfinal matchup the opposite

832
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: corner of the good old US of A at noon

833
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: Eastern time, which is a body clock situation, is it not?

834
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: I sort of. I think they left today so for

835
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: a Thursday at nine am body clock situation. They'll be

836
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: in Miami Monday Tuesday Wednesday night, So I don't know

837
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: if you can use that as an excuse in the

838
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: same way that like if you're traveling Friday afternoon for

839
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: a Saturday morning game. I don't know, ty why anybody

840
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: who's listened to this show knows that Tie is the

841
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: smart one and I'm just here for looks.

842
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: Sure that's exactly what That's what everybody thinks.

843
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

844
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: Stylistically, I think this is a really interesting matchup for

845
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: this specific reason.

846
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: Texas Tech is.

847
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: Used to facing man average about thirty five percent of

848
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: the time. Oregon plays a fifty five percent of the time.

849
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: So yes, that might create some matchups for Baron Morton,

850
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: particularly in the slot where he likes to throw most

851
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: of his passes. That's where most of them have gone

852
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: this year on the text Tech offensive side. But if

853
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: you can't find the right matchups, I'm curious to see

854
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: if Texas Tech's got to break some tendencies. Like I said,

855
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: they like the throw to the slot, but might they

856
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: start throwing two guys coming out of the backfield hasn't

857
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: really been a huge part of their offense this season,

858
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 1: but Jacoby Williams has been over twelve yards per catch.

859
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: Could see some more of that against Oregon either way.

860
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: Either way, I think Texas Tech needs to have a

861
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: little bit more balance, And I think they've got to

862
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: get Cameron Dickey and or Jacoby Williams going on the ground.

863
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: And it does not matter to me whether they're handing

864
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: it off or throwing it to him out of the backfield,

865
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: a quick pass and extension of the run game as

866
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: it where or whatever. I don't necessarily try Baron Morton

867
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: to just go out there and win it on his own.

868
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: I think they need balance. I think he needs to

869
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: have a little bit more of a supporting cast if

870
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: they're going to do this thing against Oregon. Now, Baron Morton,

871
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: I know Texas Tech people are gonna comment on this.

872
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: We've gotten all year. Baron Morton has had a very

873
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: good year.

874
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: For what it's worth. Beat up, but yes, beat up

875
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 2: for what it's.

876
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: Worth, though, And I know that what I'm about to

877
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: say here is also a point of contention. Okay, if

878
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: you trust things like passer grades, I know it's a

879
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: subjective measure. His passer grades have not been great against

880
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: the better teams on the schedule. He finished the year

881
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: about the fortieth or so highest graded pastor in college

882
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: football games against Arkansas Pine Bluff and Kent State and

883
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: Oregon State and UCF in West Virginia, those games are

884
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: doing a lot of work to pull up that average.

885
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: I like Baron Morton, I do. I just think there

886
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: needs to be more to this Texas Tech offense of

887
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: attack against a very good Oregon defense, a good not

888
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: great Oregon defense. If they're going to pull out and

889
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: merge the victor here. That's where I'm at on this.

890
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: So what those wrinkles are, how they incorporate that balance,

891
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: That to me remains a big open question because I

892
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: think this is a very very good defense. They have

893
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: not seen a defense this good all year. That's where

894
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm at.

895
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, bar Morton is somewhere around like against the

896
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: ranked teams that they've played, which I guess is two

897
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 2: games against BYU in a game against Utah, he's somewhere

898
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: around the thirty fifth to forty fifth best quarterback in

899
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: America from a pure statistical standpoint. Obviously, different quarterbacks play

900
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 2: a different number of teams, and ranked is all relative

901
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 2: and everything like that. I think he's had a good

902
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: year and he's been beat up. Will Hammond stepped in

903
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: obviously had a big fourth quarter against Utah. I believe

904
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 2: didn't have a great game against ASU and that loss.

905
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 2: So it should be noted their one loss against ASU

906
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 2: was not a Baron Morton game on the road, and

907
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: ASU was a defending champ and played in the playoff

908
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: last year. Disappointing season ultimately with Sam Levitt's injury. But

909
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: that's that's the one game. Yeah, Okay, I am not

910
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: going to say what I said when I previewed Oregon Indiana,

911
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: which was I don't know how many players on Indiana

912
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: would start for Oregon. I'm not saying, don't say don't

913
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: do that again to yourself because I'm not doing it again,

914
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: period and arrows.

915
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: From the Indiana community on that.

916
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: One, you know what sidebar rightfully, So that was a

917
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: stupid thing to say. When I look at the position

918
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: groups in this game, I think I give far more

919
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: advantages to Oregon with clear advantages I think to Texas

920
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: Tech on the edge, and an overwhelming advantage to Texas

921
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: Tech at linebacker. But in terms of talent on hands

922
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: and right that even even if Oregon has more talent

923
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: across the board, we know defense, for example, can be

924
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: greater than the sum of its parts, and offense a

925
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: lot has to do with coordinator and rhythm and quarterback whatever.

926
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 2: I think Oregon is a more talented team who played

927
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: a tougher schedule. Now, if Texas Tech's defense is in

928
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: fact as terrific as the numbers imply, then their results

929
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 2: completely reflect that. Right that they're holding teams to zero,

930
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: seven to six, ten, whatever they're playing four full quarters,

931
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: they're creating havoc, and especially at linebacker and especially at

932
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: turning teams over. This Texas defense, Texas Tech defense, excuse me,

933
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: no insult implied, was at times or even like mostly

934
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: overwhelming to the teams that they faced, including the best

935
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: teams that they face. To be clear, I think Texas

936
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: Tech this year has been nothing short of excellent period.

937
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the schedule. They've performed against the

938
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 2: schedule like an elite team should have performed. I'm waiting

939
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: on the discount in the MiG twelve though. I'm not.

940
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 2: There's no butt Texas Tech is excellent period.

941
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: But there's going to be a transition here. I can

942
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: feel everybody what everybody watching and listening can feel the

943
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: transition coming.

944
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 2: I also think Okay, Oregon's ceiling is higher because of

945
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: their offense. I think the best of Oregon's to offense

946
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: and the best of Oregon's defense combined will play at

947
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 2: a higher level. If I'm gonna mention Winter wonders in Miami,

948
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: Ohio State, I'm gonna mention it here. I think Oregon

949
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: has the potential for more explosion on a big stage

950
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: at running back, receiver, and tight end than Texas Tech does.

951
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: I think the best of Dante More is better than

952
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: the best of Baron Morton. I think the best of

953
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: the Oregon offensive line is better than the best of

954
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: the Texas Tech offensive line, which, by the way, I

955
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: think is like the most penalized offensive line in America.

956
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: I believe they're left tackle and Howard Samson has something

957
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: like fourteen or fifteen penalties this year. That's too many.

958
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: If you're going to talk about a close matchup, you

959
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 2: got to talk about hidden yards, and I think those

960
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: may exist more for the Texas Tech offense. Again, this

961
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: Texas Tech offense at its best has been outstanding. Hasn't

962
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: been a great red zone offense. The organ has not

963
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 2: been a red great zone defense situation. If we're talking

964
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: about the best of these two teams, including rust factor,

965
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: which Texas Tech has that Oregon doesn't. I don't love

966
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: that this game is in Miami for Oregon traveling cross country,

967
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: but they'll have time there. I think the best of

968
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: this Oregon defense, and I don't care that much about

969
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: the second half of James Madison, who was forty eight

970
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: to thirteen near the fourth quarter and they pulled starters.

971
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't bother me that much. And maybe I'll just

972
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: be flat out proven wrong here. I think if Oregon

973
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: is able to block inside, because they're gonna have everybody's

974
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: gonna have trouble with Texas Tech's edges, Romelo Height and

975
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: David Bailey, they're just really, really, really good. I think

976
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 2: if Oregon's able to get some push on the inside,

977
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: if Jordan Davison is healthy, he left the James Madison

978
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: game beat up, but by all accounts is ready to go.

979
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: If they're able to move the ball on the inside

980
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: and stay ahead of the chains, I think Texas Tech's secondary. Again,

981
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: if Oregon's able to block someone, what these edges, because

982
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 2: they're not going to be able to completely block them.

983
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: They're just too good. I have some thoughts on that,

984
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: but continue.

985
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: I think the Texas Tech secondary can be had down

986
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: the field provided Oregon blocks up these edges.

987
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: I like agree with that completely.

988
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 2: Oregon healthy at receiver and now healthy with two outstanding

989
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: tight ends and Kenyon Sadek and Jamari Johnson adding to

990
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: Coreyan Moore. Malik Benson's been a revelation. Jeremiah McClellan's been

991
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 2: very stuart going to play. I don't think so, Okay,

992
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: I just don't think so. I don't know. Uh, he

993
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 2: warmed up and then was in street clothes for the

994
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: James Madison game. I just think there's more in the

995
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: way of Winter Wonders and I come back to look,

996
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: the path for Texas Tech is easy. You just get

997
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: in Dante Moore's head and you turn them over, and

998
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 2: that's the game, right that Texas Tech can just sit

999
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: on Oregon in the second half, if they're up seventeen

1000
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 2: to seven, that's that's exactly what would play into Texas

1001
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: Tech hand, Texas Tech's hand. My concern for Texas Tech

1002
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: is their offense, their offense slowing down in the red

1003
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: zone even against Oregon's bad red zone defense. That it's

1004
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: a bigger stage than Texas Tech is used to. It's

1005
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: a bigger stage than Joey Maguire's used to. I think

1006
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna be really competitive in this game. I think

1007
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: Oregon wins this game by a touchdown. I think it's

1008
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 2: back and forth, and ultimately in these moments, it's a

1009
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 2: quarterback in Winter Wonders thing for me, and so I

1010
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: have Oregon twenty seven to twenty.

1011
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think you I agree with most

1012
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: of what you said.

1013
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1014
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: For me, the biggest key is that Tech pass rush

1015
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: because it's body engine for the defense all year. And

1016
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: one other thing that you mentioned, I know you point out,

1017
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: like the Texas Tech offensive line. I'm curious to see

1018
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: what happens on the right side of that Oregon offensive

1019
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: line because A numbers say that Oregon's very vulnerable at

1020
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: right tackle, which is something to watch, do they add?

1021
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: Yes?

1022
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: And no?

1023
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean of the spots on that line statistically,

1024
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: that is the spot you attack. So how to shold

1025
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: attack that? I don't know. I'm curious to see from myself.

1026
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: But back to what you said and just the broader

1027
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: point here. Okay, Now imagine, by.

1028
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 2: The way, related, how does Oregon adjust because they really struggled.

1029
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: Dante mor struggled against Indiana when they did not know

1030
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: where the pass rush was coming from. Yeah.

1031
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: I like the Oregon offense because of its balance, because

1032
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: they can run, because they can throw, and most importantly

1033
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: now because they're a little bit more healthy and they've

1034
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: been I don't know if Dante morr is coming back

1035
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: next year or not. You would probably know that better

1036
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: than me.

1037
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: Open question. In this moment. There have been a couple

1038
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: guys returning that maybe points to it. But it's not

1039
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: a great quarterback class.

1040
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: No.

1041
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: I mean, like the Cade club Nick and Drew allrization

1042
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: of this year's class has made it a really nice

1043
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: year to be a high level prospect, which Dante Morr is. Yeah,

1044
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: And so my point is that.

1045
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: This is the type of game for Dante Moore that

1046
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: could raise the volume on him as the number one

1047
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: quarterback off the board.

1048
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: Totally.

1049
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: I love this tech defense. I've loved them all year.

1050
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: They're front seven the way that She'll would in his

1051
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: first year, by the way, and Lubbock has schemed the

1052
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: tech line to like unlock the linebackers and the edge

1053
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: defenders and all that. All that stuff is damn impressive

1054
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: and I think for sure it is a huge challenge

1055
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: for Oregon, but I also like the matchup of the

1056
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: Oregon receivers against the Tech secondary, and I think there

1057
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: will be some really big opportunities for Oregon to take

1058
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: some shots downfield, especially if they can get the ground

1059
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: game going.

1060
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 2: And that's where ASU, by the way, succeeded. Sam Levil

1061
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 2: was able to avoid the pass rush, which did beat

1062
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: the ASU offensive line, but he was able to buy

1063
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 2: himself time and they were able to make Hay downfield.

1064
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: We have not seen Tech play that many teams that

1065
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: pose a vertical threat, and I look for someone like

1066
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: a Kenyan Sadik tight end to have a monster game

1067
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: attacking this seams. I think between the hashes down the

1068
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 1: middle of the field is where I am looking.

1069
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: Here some good linebackers and coverage for Texas Tech.

1070
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: They are, but I think I think there is a

1071
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: matchup that can be exploited on the Oregon side.

1072
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 2: Okay, and.

1073
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 1: There could be even more opportunities if they aren't able

1074
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: to get that pressure, which is what I come back

1075
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: to when I say that pass rush. The effectiveness of

1076
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: that pass rush is going to be key because Dante's mobile,

1077
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,959
Speaker 1: He's better outside the pocket. You can make that Cads

1078
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: are a very strong case there, and he's very good

1079
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: at keeping his eyes downfield, So I even if they

1080
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: scramble him out of the pocket, he keeps his eyes downfield.

1081
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: He's going to look for big weapons like Sadiq, and

1082
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: I think that is the matchup to exploit. That is

1083
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: what I am looking for here. Tech pass rush. Even

1084
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: if they get pressure, what does Dante do and are

1085
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: they able to stretch the field vertically? I think that's

1086
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: what this game hinges on. I also wavered on this

1087
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: game because it is not hard for me to come

1088
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: up with a scenario in which Texas Tech pulls the

1089
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: out right upset. But I'm gonna go with Oregon. I

1090
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 1: like the matchups. I think the matchups are in their favor.

1091
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: I think it is lower scoring. I've got it at

1092
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: twenty three seventeen Ducks win.

1093
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: I think if Oregon turns the ball over twice, they're

1094
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: in a lot of trouble truly. But short of that,

1095
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: I do think in January, which technically this is right

1096
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 2: January first. First, Yeah, happy, we're talking about Winter Wonders Year.

1097
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: Happy New Year to you as well. In advance, the

1098
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: ten these types of teams tend to be the when

1099
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: you have too many I'm trying to not say questions

1100
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 2: and answers, but too many questions that need answers. Go

1101
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: with the team that poses those questions that I mention it.

1102
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: I think this is probably our last show of twenty

1103
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:03,479
Speaker 1: twenty five.

1104
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: That's true.

1105
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: It didn't even dawn on me. But yeah, Happy New

1106
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: Year to everybody.

1107
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: Are you proud of yourself so far? Do you think

1108
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 2: you're doing this here? Justice twenty twenty five? I'm okay

1109
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: with it? So no, are you happy with this show?

1110
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: As like a bow?

1111
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm surprised if my voice hasn't cut out yet.

1112
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: You sound great, Ty, You're nailing it.

1113
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: But we got two more games to do and a

1114
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: long way to go, brothers, so we'll see. Let'st out,

1115
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: Let's go, Let's go to the Rose Bowl presented by

1116
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: Prudential The Big Rock.

1117
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 2: Is it bad weather in the forecast in the Rose Bowl?

1118
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: I don't know you're the weather man here, oh, Ty,

1119
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: I just I live in so much bad weather that

1120
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: it all runs together. You just want everybody to have

1121
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: to deal with it. Two Saturday, there is rain in

1122
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: the forecast in Pasadena, I don't know to what extent

1123
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: it's been a rainy week or so in California, but

1124
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: this would be on Thursday, right.

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Speaker 1: This is on Thursday, Yes, sorry, first four pm Eastern

1126
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: time in ESPN. It is number nine the Alabama Crimson

1127
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: tied versus number one Indiana Whoho Hoosiers. They are favored

1128
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: by seven. The over under here is forty eight and

1129
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: a half points. The sp plus is Indiana favored by

1130
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: thirteen and.

1131
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: One tenth of a point. Sheesh.

1132
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: The winner would play the winner of your Oregon Ducks

1133
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: and the Texas Tech Red Raiders in the Chick fil

1134
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: A Peach Bowl Friday the ninth.

1135
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: Eighty seven percent chance or eighty seven percent coverage whatever

1136
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: of precipitation at kickoff woohoo.

1137
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: Earlier kickoff too, they moved it up to four. It's

1138
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: a big deal because of the sunset or whatever.

1139
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: We need it. What a full.

1140
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: Circle moment for these coaches. We got Kurt Signetti, who

1141
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: used to be an assistant at Alabama under Nick Saban,

1142
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: and Caitlin de Borr, who used to be an offensive

1143
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: coordinator at Indiana, and then we got the fan base

1144
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: side of it, which is an Indiana team that's historically

1145
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: been one of the worst in college football, but is

1146
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: somehow now the number one overall seed against Alabama, ever,

1147
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: the blue blood who was basically one of the last

1148
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: two in the field. What a tangled web this sport weaves.

1149
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: It's great.

1150
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you a question to start off

1151
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: our our little capsule here.

1152
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: Do you have your arnold sounds on? Ask you a question.

1153
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: What isn't that from kindergarten cop? I know your sounds

1154
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: are all messed up. I'm sorry for putting you on

1155
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: the spot.

1156
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: They screwed me over something fierce with this with this

1157
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: soundboard app that I use in the.

1158
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: Ipay, I'll just play this in its stead.

1159
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1160
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: There's a sound.

1161
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask one question of you to start this off.

1162
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: The mainstream school of thought with this matchup, immediately after

1163
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: Alabama won the last game, the overwhelming sentiment was that

1164
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: Indiana is gonna win handily because they're better coached and

1165
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: they're more well rounded. And from what I could gather,

1166
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: there seem to be somewhat unanimous approval of that point

1167
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: of view. Pick your talker. I don't know. I'm not

1168
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: even gonna name names, but everybody I saw seem to

1169
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: be kind of coalescing around this point, whether it was

1170
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: the talkers or even the sp plus again thirteen points.

1171
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: Everybody seemed to be kind of going that direction. But

1172
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: that runs counter to the public betting trends, which is

1173
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: among this field now of four games, the most lopsided

1174
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: in terms of percentage of bets, percentage of money. You've

1175
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: got seventy seven percent of the bets on Alabama. You

1176
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: got sixty six percent of the money on Alabama plus

1177
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: the seven. So what I'm asking here is is there

1178
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: something that talkers are missing or is there something that

1179
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: the public is missing just because they like to go

1180
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: with the blue blood.

1181
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: Right that this moment is too big for indyannare familiar

1182
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: with Alabama in a stage like this, and you know,

1183
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: obviously Indiana has more of the Russ factors, So it'll

1184
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 2: be whatever it is twenty five to twenty four days

1185
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: between Big Ten Championship game and the Rose Bowl. And

1186
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: we saw how that worked out for Oregon last year

1187
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: in this stadium. I don't know, like I understand why

1188
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: you would like Alabama some in this game. You're more

1189
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: familiar with them. They did just play a game. There's

1190
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: more rhythm to Alabama they are seeing. I mean, both

1191
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: of these teams are kind of beat up along the

1192
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 2: defensive line. Was it Stephen Daily? I think either led

1193
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: the nation or one of the leaders in tackles for loss.

1194
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: Indiana out for this game, out for the season, I

1195
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: believe after the Ohio State game, and Alabama has been

1196
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: down with Tim keenan lt Overton, guys like that, big contributors.

1197
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 2: But the Alabama defensive line in that second half against Oklahoma,

1198
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: especially against the past, really came to play. I lean

1199
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: Indiana in this. I'm not with the public where like

1200
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: Alabama's like the name and has the play makers. I

1201
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: think Indiana is the better team. I think they have

1202
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 2: more ways to win. I think they can win ugly.

1203
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 2: I think they can win in a shootout. I think

1204
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 2: they have the better quarterback. I think in terms of

1205
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: offensive rhythm, I think they're in a better place than

1206
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: where Alabama's been against the better teams this back half

1207
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: of the schedule. They can run the ball, they can

1208
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: throw the ball, they can protect strategically, They're in a

1209
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: really good place. They're super well coached, whereas Alabama is

1210
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 2: sort of catches catch, can I didn't like how they

1211
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: came out against Oklahoma in terms of how prepared they

1212
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: were lack thereof. I just think Indiana is a more

1213
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: buttoned up team. I think Indiana has just been a

1214
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: killer and Alabama has struggled, and they had a great

1215
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 2: second half against Oklahoma, but the way they came out

1216
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: in that game still concerns me and gives me pause.

1217
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, it would just be such a shocker

1218
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: if Indiana was not ready for this game, even with

1219
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: the extended layoff. I think the hallmark of this team

1220
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 2: is just the effort and the execution and how well

1221
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 2: coached they are, and so it just does not seem

1222
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: like an Indiana thing at this point. As strange as

1223
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: it is to say, I know, I know that Indiana

1224
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: is a team that is unprepared for a game like this,

1225
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: after what they showed against Ohio State, what they showed

1226
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 2: against Oregon, flying to the West Coast earlier on in

1227
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: the season. The rest is real. You know, It's been

1228
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 2: a whirlwind few weeks, you know, for Nadal Mendoza winning

1229
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: the Heisman. It's just a very different time for Indiana football.

1230
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: This is a new stage for this program. I mean

1231
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 2: they were in the playoff last year, but it was

1232
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: it was a road game in state. It's sort of

1233
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: it's a different deal when you're in Pasadena and you're

1234
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: going through you know, all the all the press and

1235
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 2: all the hooplah, you know what it is.

1236
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 1: But it isn't because I think you could. I thought

1237
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: about this a lot. I think you can make the case.

1238
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: At the big stage was the Big Ten Championship against

1239
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: Ohio State.

1240
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 2: Again also in state though right state in state.

1241
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: But but to me, just in terms of significance, of course,

1242
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: winning a playoff game moving on having a shot at

1243
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: the national championship, that's a whole other echelon, But in

1244
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: terms of true symbolism relative to where Indiana has been

1245
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: beating Ohio State, I don't care where that game is.

1246
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: You could play that game on Mars for all I care.

1247
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: Totally.

1248
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship is about as

1249
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: big as it gets for a program that has basically

1250
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: been a doormat for the entirety of its history in

1251
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: the football side, so't I don't necessarily buy the argument

1252
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: this is going to be too big for Indiana. They

1253
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: now they have a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback. They have

1254
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: a very balanced offense. As you said, it can win

1255
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of different ways. They have three backs that

1256
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: are averaging five yards per carry. Even Fernando or Mendoza

1257
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: can run a bit, he's not definitely. Yeah. The biggest

1258
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: issue that I see for Indiana as this Bama is

1259
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: not great at pressuring the quarterback. They don't blitz a

1260
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: whole lot. They're content to just sort of sit back

1261
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: and play zone. Be a top ten caliber defense, get

1262
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: the ball back to the offense. So they've been very

1263
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: good at this year. It's a good defense. Most of

1264
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: their playmaking has come from their back seven. We have

1265
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: seen this almost exact formula against Indiana all year. They're

1266
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: not gonna blitz them because Mendoza's two get at figuring

1267
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: it out after the snap, and so how do you

1268
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: stop that? How do you stop Indiana when you're not

1269
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: necessarily gonna bring everything at him. I have a real

1270
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: question about red zone. This is a very good Alabama

1271
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: red zone defense. They're gonna go out there, they're gonna

1272
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: play ben don't break. They're gonna force a lot of

1273
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: short stuff underneath. They're gonna make Indiana be super efficient

1274
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: to beat them. Alabama needs to force threes instead of sixes.

1275
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 1: And that's the formula that I think we're gonna see here,

1276
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: and so I say, yes, this is the big issue

1277
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: for Indiana. I mean, Indiana has been a very good

1278
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: red zone offense in their own right. But I just

1279
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: expect we're going to see two versions of the Alabama defense.

1280
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna see one between the twenties and then another

1281
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: once they get down into the red zone. I think

1282
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: Indiana's gonna have a lot of success nickel and diming

1283
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: their way down the field. But I am watching for

1284
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: the red zone. Watch for the red zone. It's true

1285
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: in every game. I think it is especially true in

1286
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: this one. If the Alabama wants to have any kind

1287
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: of chance here now, now the whole idea goes up

1288
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: and smoke. If Indiana starts ripping off big runs, connects

1289
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: some big passing plays, or anything like that. But I

1290
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: expect Alabama to play a lot of bend, don't break,

1291
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: and to tighten up, especially doubly so once they get

1292
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: down inside the red zone. And this is where we're

1293
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: gonna need to see what out what Indiana's made out of.

1294
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: Can Indiana continue to convert maybe it's the stage, maybe

1295
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: it's the weather, maybe it's just I don't know. But

1296
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: can Indiana continue that trend of being a very good

1297
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: red zone offense against a very good red zone defense

1298
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: that I think is and be ready to bat in

1299
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: the hatches and force those field goals at all cost?

1300
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, I would expect to see some of

1301
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza's legs in the red zone too. I think

1302
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: that's all weaponed.

1303
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: I think we should. I absolutely think that's something they

1304
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: should do.

1305
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see. And this again goes back to

1306
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 2: my the Winter Wonders thing. Who on Indiana, especially in

1307
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 2: the red zone, as you mentioned, who on Indiana at receiver,

1308
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 2: at tight end, whatever can force the issue can win

1309
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty balls in the corner of the end zone,

1310
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: right like they obviously made plays against Ohio State Penn State.

1311
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I have nightmares about that play.

1312
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 2: Omark sure, sure, sure, and Omark Cooper was hurt but

1313
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: seems to be like he's all right. So they should

1314
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: have Cooper and Becker and Surat like they should have

1315
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: their guys. But if there was anything we saw last

1316
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: year in the playoff, different team, I'm only using this

1317
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 2: as a half example. This is not a full thing.

1318
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: It's they didn't have those guys against Notre Dame perform

1319
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: and force the issue. Right, different quarterback, different team, so

1320
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 2: much different, better team, much better. So this year is

1321
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: a better team. Yes, So I'm just curious who that

1322
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: guy is to force the issue against the talent on Alabama.

1323
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 2: And honestly, you can very easily say the thing the

1324
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: same thing on the flip side, who on Alabama? With

1325
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: the sort of disappearance of Ryan Williams for extended stretches.

1326
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: He's been with a witness protection program since like week two.

1327
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: Dan, we saw some from Brooks. We've seen guys step up, Quavis,

1328
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 2: We've seen guys for a quarter for a drive, whatever,

1329
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 2: step up in a big way. I think it's only

1330
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 2: fair to point out the same thing with how Ohio

1331
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,799
Speaker 2: State struggled against this Indiana defense. Who on Alabama? Especially

1332
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: because we know it's likely not going to be what

1333
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: appears to be a healthy jam Miller, but it's not

1334
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: going to be the run game. It's Alabama.

1335
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: It's a one dimensional offense. It is a one dimensional

1336
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: Alabama offense that's going to put a lot of strain

1337
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: on Ty Simpson to make the right reads and accurate

1338
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: throws full stop. That is the offense.

1339
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 2: So who is So it's Ty Simpson in the rain,

1340
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: like Fernando Mendoza in the rain. Who are the guys

1341
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: who can force the issue and are just like, well,

1342
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 2: this guy's unguardable and went for five catches one thirty

1343
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 2: eight and that was the difference. And whichever team has

1344
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: that guy I think is likely winning this game. Because

1345
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: if you're gonna nitpick Indiana, it's what I already said,

1346
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 2: it's more situational right the time off that they're going

1347
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 2: across the country Rose Bull stage, they haven't you know,

1348
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: the a rhythmic nature of this whole thing that like,

1349
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: Indiana's played a lot of big games either during the

1350
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 2: regular season or in state with the Notre Dame Ohio

1351
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: State game, Like this is a different beast, and it's

1352
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,560
Speaker 2: a different beast on a certain level of Kaylin de

1353
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: Boorn Alabama as well. But I just that's the only

1354
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 2: novel element to this Indiana team because otherwise they're just

1355
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 2: kicking ass. So I'm taking Indiana here. What was the number?

1356
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 2: One more time?

1357
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: I've got it at seven right now now.

1358
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I have Indiana winning this game thirty to seventeen

1359
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 2: and covering.

1360
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so you are going two scores.

1361
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: I am going two scores.

1362
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

1363
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Alabama's been sort of getting away with

1364
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 2: it for too long.

1365
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair point of view. I think

1366
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: what Alabama did against Oklahoma was impressive, though I agree,

1367
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to undersell what they did. Yeah,

1368
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: maybe they came out and didn't look prepared, but the

1369
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: way they got that thing back on track and one

1370
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: going away says a lot about the character of that team,

1371
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: and I just want to reemphasize that. I thought that

1372
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: was really impressive, the way they cashed in on the

1373
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: Oklahoma mistakes and then kind of turned that into momentum

1374
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 1: and they wrote that one out. That to me, it

1375
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: stands for something and I think it speaks volumes about

1376
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: what Kailen Debor is built.

1377
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: So, but they also did that against like the ninetieth

1378
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 2: best offense. Listen, I get it, I get it, Dan,

1379
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 2: I totally get it.

1380
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 1: But I just I have made a lot of hay

1381
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: on this show going at Alabama for them getting in

1382
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,839
Speaker 1: the playoff and for the way they closed out their season,

1383
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: and how the offense has had diminishing returns and this

1384
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: and that, and I know Alabama fans are probably tuned

1385
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: out at this point, So this is not about dunking

1386
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: on Bama. What they did in Round one against Oklahoma

1387
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: on the road on a front and that was really

1388
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: impressive to me. There is still a lot of receiving talent,

1389
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: and running back talent, but totally more notably receiving talent

1390
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: on this roster. And you mentioned a bunch of them,

1391
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: Jeremy Bernard and Isaiah Horton and Lottie Brooks and even

1392
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Williams if he should emerge from witness protection at

1393
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: some point. Josh Clavis, Right, there's a lot here that

1394
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: I think you got to like about this team. I'm

1395
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 1: not sure it's enough against a defense that knows their

1396
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: one dimensional, that knows the Alabama offense is one dimensional,

1397
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: and a defense by the way, that held down both

1398
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: Oregon into High State. But I do not want to

1399
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: go deeper into this preview with that without at least

1400
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: crediting what Alabama has donecause they've been very very good. Yeah,

1401
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: and they were a very very good Round one after

1402
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 1: the first.

1403
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: Quarter, If like the okayist or like the most pretty

1404
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 2: good quarterback in America was playing for Oklahoma. Yeah, I

1405
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: don't think we're having this made me different, Like if

1406
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 2: it's like a Brendan Sorosby or arch Manning.

1407
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,799
Speaker 1: You know, this is where I say, if I had wheels,

1408
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: there'd be a bicycle.

1409
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: Totally true.

1410
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: But on the Indiana defense side, if we're going to

1411
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: bring up havoc with respect to other defenses, this is

1412
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: the top havoc defense in college football. And it's an

1413
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: interesting combination because they're a havoc defense that forces a

1414
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: lot of big plays, interceptions, sacks, tackles for loss, you

1415
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: name it, fumbles. But they also play the highest percentage

1416
01:12:56,040 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: of zone eighty seven percent of the time of any

1417
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: team in college football. I watched a bunch of videos

1418
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: this week showing how Indiana and Bryant Haynes, their defensive coordinator,

1419
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: are running a scheme that is more akin to the

1420
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: NFL than college football. There's a lot of nuance here.

1421
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 2: Cool.

1422
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit of the Iowa rushing offense.

1423
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 1: How it seems simple, but then when you pop the

1424
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 1: hood and you try to understand it, there's a lot

1425
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: there's like a lot of small wrinkles that don't meet

1426
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: the eye initially, and it sort of underscores the point

1427
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: on coaching and discipline. You cannot run a system like

1428
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: this unless you're very disciplined and you have good communication. Now,

1429
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: what they don't do is blitz you a whole lot.

1430
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: That is a different formula than we have seen against

1431
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: Ty Simpson down the stretch. Right the Auburn game comes

1432
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: to mind. They blitzed the crap out of them. They

1433
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: had some success, they almost could have won that game.

1434
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: But that is not Indiana. Indiana is not a heavy

1435
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: blitzing team at all. So I'm curious to see if

1436
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: they are able to confuse that Alabama passing attack by

1437
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: doing their normal thing and running a very nuanced zone setup,

1438
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: or if they're going to have to over commit and

1439
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: break ten and see a little bit and blitz a

1440
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: little bit more.

1441
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: M The Alabama offensive line can be had it it

1442
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: can be.

1443
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,799
Speaker 1: But the Alabama offensive line has also held up pretty

1444
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: well in the face of some of that pressure that

1445
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: they've seen down the stretch.

1446
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: Well, that stretch included the Georgia's SEC championship game.

1447
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So I am very curious to see

1448
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: what Indiana's defense looks like. Are they able to get

1449
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: pressure on? Ty Simpson. By the way, when I say

1450
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: the normal thing, I got air quotes going here. It's

1451
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: the seventeenth best pressure rate in the country in terms

1452
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: of their defense, So they get pressure without blitzing.

1453
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: But they're playing this game on the field tied on.

1454
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: So I'm just curious to see how that manifests in

1455
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: this game. Because Ty and we could talk about Fanana

1456
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: Mendoza and how he diagnoses the play after the snap

1457
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: and almost went to an IVY League school and got

1458
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: a business degree from Berkeley or whatever, who.

1459
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 2: Among us, Ty didn't nearly end up at Yale.

1460
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: We could talk about all of that until we're blue

1461
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: in the face. Tie Simpson's that pretty good too, It's

1462
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,600
Speaker 1: pretty good. So I want to see how he diagnoses this.

1463
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: And I think that in and of itself is going

1464
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: to have a very large part to play and who

1465
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: ends up winning this one. But I just think in general,

1466
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: the fact that we've got two zone heavy defenses that

1467
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: don't like the blitz and two quarterbacks that are both

1468
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: very good at figuring things out. Yeah, along the way,

1469
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 1: someone's going to have to break a tendency and force

1470
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: the issue in the rain. In the rain, thank you.

1471
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 2: Your voice sounds great.

1472
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: It's it's starting to peter out. I can fish.

1473
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's okay. It's not showing to get tired,

1474
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 2: starting to peter out. That was that old Alabama like

1475
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 2: Scott cochrane thing. You never put your hands on your knees, right, yeah,

1476
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 2: you never give that tell that you might be tired.

1477
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 2: And I'm almost out of water. Uh oh.

1478
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 1: Indiana wins twenty seven to seventeen.

1479
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 2: All right, so we both have Alabama scoring seventeen in

1480
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: a losing effort. I have them going to thirteen. You

1481
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: have them barely covering one game left. Okay, you want

1482
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 2: to head to your corner so your trainer can get

1483
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 2: you some water.

1484
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going, man, Okay, All stage, Sugar Bowl

1485
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 1: Sean McDonough, Greg McElroy eight PM, ESPN, Number six seed

1486
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: Ole Miss Rebels, Number three seed Georgia Bulldogs. Georgia favored

1487
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:40,879
Speaker 1: by six and a half points.

1488
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: You're over under.

1489
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: Here is fifty six and a half. So somebody's looked

1490
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: for some points. The sp plus has it as a

1491
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: point three point difference. Wow, not even one whole point

1492
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: point three in favor of Georgia. Yeah, the winner goes

1493
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 1: the Yes, the bawl again, they'd be playing the winner

1494
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,799
Speaker 1: of the Miami Ohio state game. He seems played already.

1495
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: We saw this game the rematch rematcher eight correct in Athens. Yep,

1496
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: Georgia one forty three to thirty five, a really good game.

1497
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: Georgia was down in that one by nine points going

1498
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter. They ripped off seventeen unanswered. They

1499
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: won going away. Got a different coaching matchup this time.

1500
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin took his hot yoga to Baton Rouge.

1501
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 2: So is that true? Hold on, let me fact check this.

1502
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: He posted a hot yoga picture.

1503
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1504
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 2: If you saw that, he's already doing the yogs and

1505
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 2: Baton Rouge.

1506
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: You could argue it's the only reason he took it.

1507
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, there's the better yoga scene I Louisiana.

1508
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I am not connected to the hot yoga scene

1509
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge the way maybe I should be as

1510
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: a college football podcaster.

1511
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 2: Excuse, come on, get that downward dog research in.

1512
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: Come on, Pete Golding is going to be on the

1513
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: sidelines for the Rebels was on the sidelines against Ulane

1514
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: and they won that one by a lot. Yeah. I

1515
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 1: don't think it's a stretch to say that Kirby Sparts

1516
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 1: got the coaching advantage in this game. But see what happens.

1517
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: Pete Golden deserves a shot. I asked the question at

1518
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: the very top about rust. This is the game where

1519
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: I think rust could factor in.

1520
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 2: By the way, works really well with your Ashanti drop.

1521
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:30,520
Speaker 2: It's about rust, babe, right, rust rust rust.

1522
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: That's not bad, thank you. Georgia was playing with such

1523
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: momentum down the stretch. Now to put the brakes on

1524
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: for twenty four days.

1525
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 2: Great for health, he the way, but disrespectful illusion with

1526
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 2: an a disrespectful reference with the brakes and George's driving

1527
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 2: issues off the field, come on where I was going

1528
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 2: with it. But okay, disrespect Okay, I know I'm just kidding.

1529
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: I kind of think that rust factor benefits all miss here,

1530
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 1: I really do. I went back this morning. I rewatched

1531
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: the game for like the fourth time. No, not a

1532
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: lot of defense in that first game.

1533
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: No, right, seventy eight total points.

1534
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: You're looking at that from afar, You're not thinking there

1535
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,839
Speaker 1: was a lot of defense there? Wasn't a lot of defense.

1536
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: We had a monster game from Gunner Stockton, we had

1537
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: a good game from Lost and Lucky had three touchdowns.

1538
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 1: We had two hundred and twenty one yards on the

1539
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: ground for Georgia. They only got better from that point

1540
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: and it culminated with what they did in the SEC Championship.

1541
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: So now I'm thinking to myself, like, all right, how

1542
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 1: big of a factor should rust? Will Rust play? Because

1543
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: we saw it last year? You know, this is not

1544
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: like a thing I'm making up. Maybe the seating had

1545
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: something to do with what we perceived at the time

1546
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: to be russed. But none of the teams that came

1547
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: off of first round by one their quarterfinal matchup in

1548
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:57,759
Speaker 1: last year's playoffs.

1549
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 2: So where yet, how big of a rush should it play?

1550
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 1: Will it play in this game? Or are we going

1551
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: to be two dorks who just go with every favorite team. No.

1552
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: I actually do like Ole Miss in this game, and

1553
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: I hate that I like him on a certain level

1554
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 2: because I think the best of Gunner Stockton, which is

1555
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 2: by the way, was on display in this Whole Miss game.

1556
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: He was great. He was really good in that first game.

1557
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: The best of Georgia eventually came to fruition in this game.

1558
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: They stopped Keiwan Lacy, who was beat up in the

1559
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 2: two lane game as with Trinidad Chambliss upper body stuff

1560
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 2: for Chambliss, but came back and played well. I think

1561
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: the rust is probably most apparent in this Georgia situation,

1562
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,839
Speaker 2: just because of how well they played down the stretch,

1563
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 2: even with losing or not losing, but even with losing,

1564
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 2: the explosive nature of this that this offense can have

1565
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 2: against Georgia Tech, right they could not figure out Georgia

1566
01:20:55,479 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 2: Tech in that rivalry game in Atlanta. I think with

1567
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 2: how they finished the year against Alabama and the emotion

1568
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 2: involved in you know, Kirby finally beating Alabama for the

1569
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 2: first time in a while and doing so on that

1570
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 2: kind of stage, in that manner, and then just stopping

1571
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: right kind of concerning to me. Georgia has some key injuries.

1572
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: Obviously Ole Miss has injuries to everybody's beat up at

1573
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: this point, but you know, with what they've had to

1574
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: deal with that linebacker and now losing what Drew Bobo

1575
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 2: at center for the year, and that was you know,

1576
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 2: a few games ago, a couple of games ago. But

1577
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 2: there's some key guys who are who are limited or

1578
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 2: just full on out. For Georgia, I come back to

1579
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 2: the fact that Georgia barely won this game at home

1580
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 2: with Gunner Stockton playing the game of his life. It

1581
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 2: doesn't mean he has an improves and sent which I

1582
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 2: think he clearly has. It doesn't mean he can't replicate it.

1583
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 2: He clearly can. I think, not only are you dealing

1584
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 2: with the rust issue for Georgia, you're dealing with the

1585
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: difficulty of beating a very good team twice in the

1586
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 2: same season that ole Miss has afforded the opportunity to

1587
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 2: correct what Georgia was able to exploit in a mysterious way.

1588
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 2: Whereas ole Miss knows how Georgia succeeded against ole Miss,

1589
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 2: and ole Miss obviously succeeded against Georgia as well. But

1590
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 2: I don't know, there's something that I think ole Miss

1591
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 2: has a slight diagnostic advantage here. Maybe I'm right, maybe

1592
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, I don't know, But there's a reason why

1593
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 2: it is tough to beat a very good team twice

1594
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 2: diagnostic here. Hi, I'm just I'm mostly looks. Mostly looks.

1595
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 1: I mean, we're doing this show on like a fifth

1596
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: grade level. But when you pull in diagnostics out, it

1597
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: lends me to we're in middle school degree, Dan, Come on.

1598
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: That's not going that far. I like ole Miss here.

1599
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 2: I like the explosive nature the game is inside. I

1600
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 2: kind of like the emotion involved. I kind of like

1601
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: the lack of Russ for ole Miss. I think it

1602
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 2: comes out in this game. I do think it's a

1603
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 2: shootout once again. I have ole Miss winning this game

1604
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 2: thirty five thirty three, So I guess that what that

1605
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: overhits for me?

1606
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: Thirty five thirty three. Wow, that'd be fun. Yeah.

1607
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 2: I think they're able to generate big plays. I like

1608
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 2: the rhythm, and I'm sure Georgia is going to do

1609
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 2: what a lot of these teams have done, and they

1610
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 2: play like the eleven on eleven and they play you know, Oregon.

1611
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 2: They made a big deal of Oregon playing the sort

1612
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 2: of simulated game the week before. JMU Like, I don't

1613
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: think George is going to be terribly rusty, but I

1614
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 2: think Georgia wins this game a week after the SEC Championship,

1615
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 2: possibly comfortably. I think the explosive nature of the ole

1616
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 2: Miss offense to me, the big difference is how much

1617
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: can ole Miss get off the field on third and medium,

1618
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: third and short. I don't love this ole Miss run defense,

1619
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 2: and the best of Georgia on the ground can be

1620
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: super impressive. I think we go back and forth in

1621
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 2: this game. I think ole Miss pulls it out.

1622
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: Man. I went back and forth on this game too.

1623
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: I yeah, this one in particular, and I was curious

1624
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 1: to see where you came down in this. Yeah.

1625
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: I went into this thinking obviously Georgia. And now my

1626
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 2: problem is my pick goes against all the three other

1627
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 2: picks that I think one of the best things to

1628
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 2: do and trying to figure out the unfigure out able.

1629
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 2: There you go, there's my counter to diagnostic. I just

1630
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 2: invented a word is if the final score is thirty

1631
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 2: four to ten, who is the most obvious team to

1632
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 2: you that scored thirty four? And if the final score

1633
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 2: of this game is thirty four to ten, I think

1634
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 2: I would pretty strongly lean Georgia.

1635
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what I.

1636
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 2: And I'm going against that tie because that way I

1637
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: can sit on the fence.

1638
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I went back and rewatched it

1639
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: this morning. I feel like I rewatched this game so

1640
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,759
Speaker 1: many times. I have this game like down in memory

1641
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 1: at this point, I expect that this game is going

1642
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 1: to have some similarities but also some key differences and

1643
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: so few things that come to mind for me. One,

1644
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: if you go back and watch that first game, Georgia

1645
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 1: did a lot of side to side stuff, a lot

1646
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 1: of trying to pull all Miss apart horizontally, and then

1647
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 1: they found success running up the middle. I mentioned the

1648
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty some odd yards on the ground.

1649
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: It was. It was a lot of doing just that.

1650
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: Pull him apart inside zone, up the middle, go back

1651
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: and rewatch you can't miss. It sticks out like a

1652
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: sore thumb. I think we're going to continue to see

1653
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: some of that from the Georgia offense in this game.

1654
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: Two.

1655
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,520
Speaker 1: One thing that I hope Georgia will fix from thee

1656
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm not rooting for any team, but from Georgia fan perspective,

1657
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: one thing that I hope Georgia will fix is how

1658
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: they played Trinidad Chambliss. They need to do a much

1659
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: better job keeping him inside the pocket. He killed him

1660
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: when he broke contained in that first game. And for me,

1661
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: this is the biggest key to the game. If you're

1662
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: all Miss, you're Charlie Weis junior, who is still on

1663
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 1: the staff and still call the place. You want to

1664
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 1: get him outside. You want to put him in a

1665
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: position where he is making Georgia defenders either commit to

1666
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: him running or dropping back and allowing him to run.

1667
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 1: That definitely put Georgia in a box in that first game.

1668
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: So do more of that if you're all missed, and

1669
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: if you're Georgia, please stop that because that gave them

1670
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 1: headaches at least for the first three quarters of the

1671
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: game before they figured it out and then three ole

1672
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: miss needs to get more out of Kiwan Lacy if

1673
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 1: they want to win this game. He had two point

1674
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: six yards per carry in that first meeting. They couldn't

1675
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: get him in space at all.

1676
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 2: It was even less by the way you take away

1677
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 2: his one like a ten or twelve yeah run, it

1678
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 2: was nothing. They fact could not get him in space.

1679
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: He got gobbled up by the interior of that Georgia

1680
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: defensive line. They got to find a way to get

1681
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: him to the edge. I don't know if it's through

1682
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: the passing game as an extension of the run, or

1683
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 1: if they scheme up the way that they're running a

1684
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: little bit differently, but they got to do something to

1685
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: get him a little bit more wiggle room because that

1686
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: dude's an athlete and they did not utilize him to

1687
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: his full capacity in that first matchup. What stands out

1688
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: to me, though, and we saw this the deeper we

1689
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 1: got into that game against Ole Miss the first time around,

1690
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: and especially so the deeper we got into the season

1691
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 1: with Georgia, Georgia cleaned itself up on defense a lot,

1692
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 1: especially as they got deeper into the year. Georgia is

1693
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: better along the lines. They are better along the lines

1694
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: than Old Miss, and I think their defense improved dramatically

1695
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: since that first game. So my sense is that they

1696
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: are better along the lines than they were when they

1697
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 1: first played back on October the eighteenth, and they're still

1698
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,799
Speaker 1: better now and this is going to be a different

1699
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,759
Speaker 1: matchup because of that improvement. They're just a better team

1700
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: now than they were, so rust being what it is,

1701
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: could definitely play a fact. I want the points here,

1702
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 1: but I think george is winning. Okay, I've got it

1703
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: at thirty one to twenty seven Georgia. I think it's

1704
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: a good and if Old Miss, much like the Miami

1705
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: game that I talk about I had talked about at

1706
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: the beginning, if you come to me on January the second,

1707
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 1: or whenever we do our live stream. I guess we're

1708
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 1: doing a last stream after this on New Year's Day?

1709
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: Is that the plane? Yes, So this show will be out.

1710
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: Our next show will.

1711
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 2: Be out on if your voice makes it.

1712
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 1: If my voice makes it, our next show will be

1713
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: out on Friday, January the second.

1714
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 2: Bright Yeah, late night Thursday night stream recording of it

1715
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 2: Friday morning.

1716
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: If we record that show and it's Ole Miss and

1717
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: Miami winning those games, I would not be surprised at all.

1718
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: I could definitely look at this game the first time

1719
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: around and come up with a few things that maybe

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01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: Old Miss could have done differently that would have yielded

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01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: different results, that will yield different results time around. I

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01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,759
Speaker 1: also think, and we haven't mentioned this at all.

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Speaker 2: Henry Parrish, by the way, Parish, who Ole Miss Miami?

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01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: So much of the focus is on Lane Kiffin leaving,

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01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: but we also should maybe focus a little bit on

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Speaker 1: what Lane Kiffin leaving does for the mentality of this

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01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: Old Miss team. Also true, I thought they played with

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01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: real purpose against Tulane, and granted that might have been

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01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: a mismatch.

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01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 2: And they were at home.

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01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 1: It knew that going in, and it was at home.

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01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: There was a lot working to their advantage. But this

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01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: is a really strong group of athletes out there. They

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01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 1: might be more athletic than Georgia, and so that should

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01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: not be overlooked going into a matchup like this.

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01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this team.

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01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: I just think I like the matchup a little bit

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01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 1: more for Georgia right now. So I'm going to thirty

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01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 1: one twenty seven.

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01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 2: That's all all reasonable.

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01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 1: So we really only disagree on one game. That's this one.

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01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 1: Let ustart you your thoughts soliverbo at gmail dot com. As

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01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: I said, uh, this is gonna be our final show

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01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. Hope everybody enjoys their New year.

1745
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 1: Please stay safe out there, Please enjoy your evening out there.

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01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: Please come on back on New Year's Day at midnight

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01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: if you're able to stay up to midnight for a

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01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 1: second consecutive night. If that's your thing, hop on the

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01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: stream with us.

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01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 2: Any any special plans watch these games with anybody? Cook

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01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 2: something special?

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01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 2: I don't think so, I don't know where it. No,

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01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think I got an big plans.

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01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 2: I'll make the bean dip Okay's delicious. Yeah, post of

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01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 2: the recipe before. It's like a Chriso beanedup delicious.

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01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: I haven't cided yet. Okay, we'll figure it out.

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01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 2: Mama h involved, Uncle Joe. I saw paid interested in

1759
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 2: these games. I think we are in our.

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01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: Own little like hermetically sealed bumble over here, because we're

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01:30:56,520 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: both sick, me more so than Kate. But we're not

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01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: inviting people to be around us because I still kind

1763
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 1: of sound like hell, and I'm coughing a lot more

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01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: than I have been on this stream weirdly, like I

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01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:15,639
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm mustering the energy to suppress the cough.

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01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 2: You got some humidifiers going.

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01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 1: Literally every humidifier is going right now. I've tried everything

1768
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 1: to reboot my voice and reboot my sound good. I

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01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: don't feel good, but I'm doing my best.

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01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 2: Over here, is somebody ready for you as soon as

1771
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 2: you hit stop on this stream and recording, is somebody

1772
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 2: ready for you with one of those giant foil blankets

1773
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 2: like you just ran an iron Man to collapse in

1774
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:42,520
Speaker 2: two Have you ever had the feeling.

1775
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: When you're doing a show like this, when you're in

1776
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 1: the throes of anything, And I know I've definitely had

1777
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 1: this at night when we do our streams.

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01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, drop in the comments any recommendations,

1779
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 2: Tye will take it all.

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01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, I'll to please soliverable gmail dot com if

1781
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 1: email is your chosen thing. Whatever. I've had on several

1782
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: ocasions throughout the course of this recording where I started

1783
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: feeling lightheaded, like I might blackout.

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01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa.

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01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, where you kind of lose track

1786
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 1: of what you're saying and it gets like everybody's had

1787
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 1: that from time to time, when you're in the middle

1788
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 1: of something and the energy removes itself from your body.

1789
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 1: I've had that happen.

1790
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 2: It's like in the middle of a PowerPoint.

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01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I'm I'm I'm I'm fighting through it.

1792
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 2: Man, Any any available come to your house. IVY services

1793
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 2: in the Lehigh Valley I did not a sponsor. Could

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01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 2: be I didn't look that up, but could be.

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01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be.

1796
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 2: I think they exist for people with like really truly

1797
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 2: horrible sicknesses or truly horrible hangovers, with people with too

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01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 2: much money.

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01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: I did try liquid iv no former sponsors still could be,

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01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: and I found that it irritates my throat to the

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01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,839
Speaker 1: point where I just start coughing uncontrollably, So I stopped

1802
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 1: that now and I'm I'm back on the sauce. The

1803
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: sauce being straight water.

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01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, get a ton of sleep as well. Don't talk

1805
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 2: to anybody but myself. Why don't we leave it there.

1806
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: Please do throw us a follow or a subscribe if

1807
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 1: you have yet to do so. Please do follow along

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01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 1: on social media so that you don't miss any of

1809
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: our postings about when the next round of Bolbingo is

1810
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 1: going to be available. I got to talk to our

1811
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: guys to figure out when we can get a new

1812
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:28,719
Speaker 1: card up there. It might not be until next week,

1813
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 1: simply because I can't put another card out until we

1814
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: know what the playoff matchups are going to be for

1815
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: the semifinals.

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01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 2: Oh so true, So.

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01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 1: Bear with me on that front. We've had really good participation,

1818
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 1: just as we did last year. Again, it is free

1819
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 1: for all to play. We would encourage everybody to play

1820
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 1: for fabulous prizes. But again, give me a little bit

1821
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: of grace here. I'm behind on my prizes, I'm behind

1822
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: on my announcements, I'm behind on literally all things involving

1823
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: my life right now. Yeah, because I got really sick

1824
01:33:58,600 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 1: right after Christmas Eve.

1825
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so do my bet that will teach you ty

1826
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 2: to party with the Laker girls in Macau.

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01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 1: I know this always happens when you do this, it does, Okay.

1828
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: All that being said a ninety minute stream. A lot

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01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 1: going on here. We appreciate everybody stopping on by. Happy

1830
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: New Year to you and yours as you are listening

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01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: to this, hopefully before twenty twenty six, so that some

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01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: of these predictions aren't completely obsolete. Noep, but it has

1833
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 1: been a fun year and it looks to be another

1834
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 1: fun round of college football playoff games, so I'm excited.

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01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: Agree. Can't wait.

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01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: Go get some rest for that guy there, my good

1837
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: friend Dan Rubinstein. From myself, Tie Hildebrand, thanks as always

1838
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: for downloadie, for listening, for supporting what we do. We'll

1839
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: talk to you all in twenty twenty six. They saw it.

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Speaker 2: Peace,