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Speaker 1: What is uh Isaiah Simmons bring uh the kicking.

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Speaker 2: Game, uh man, athleticism, speed, Yeah, you know, he he's

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Speaker 2: very talented, very very talented. So uh he's come in

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Speaker 2: and uh he's assimilated pretty fast.

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Speaker 3: Uh smart.

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Speaker 2: You know, Like I said, athletic can do a lot

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Speaker 2: flex with him. So I look forward to seeing him

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Speaker 2: growing our system.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, given ch changing the kickoff rules and we're gonna

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Speaker 4: You have a directive of you know, punt here to say, oh,

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Speaker 4: don't catch it here or let it go there?

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Speaker 3: Is is there any directive for kickoffs now that it's

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Speaker 3: different than before.

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm sure different teams are gonna have

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Speaker 2: different philosophies. Uh. You know, some teams are gonna be

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Speaker 2: more aggressive. You know, some teams probably won't be as aggressive.

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Speaker 2: So uh, I think it's you know, I'm sure he'll

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Speaker 2: be just from club to clar Uh, you know, philosophically

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Take away from the room again, what did you take

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Speaker 2: away from the summer as far as when you say

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Speaker 2: take away.

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Speaker 1: What was your impressions of it?

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Speaker 3: Uh? You know, the rules are the rules. Whatever. My

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Speaker 2: Know, I mean it is what it is, you know,

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Speaker 2: so you just make adjustments or whatever the rules are,

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Speaker 5: Does become an analytics study?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it does. Uh?

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Speaker 1: And it has is entrusting a rookie with punts and

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Speaker 1: kickoffs exciting, nervous, scary, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean Eric Gray has been in the University Tennessee

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Speaker 2: stadium kneeling stay.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's one hundred and ten thousand people.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, he's played in Oklahoma again, Red River

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Speaker 2: Shootout and all of that stuff. Man, it's it's not

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Speaker 2: too big for the kid. And he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: He's done it, and we feel comfortable with him.

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Speaker 1: Why'd you put chep back for the return game?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Just you know, it's preseasons for everybody, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. Just you know, it's guys gotta get reps.

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Speaker 2: You know, he catches punks. He's been catching punts ever

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Speaker 2: since he's been here, Ever since I've been here, he's

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Speaker 2: been catching punts. So we just wanted to throw him

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Speaker 2: in there and just let him catch one in the game.

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Speaker 1: Could you see using like alternate ago back then.

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Speaker 4: We'll see It's teams have sometimes, you know, when they

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Speaker 4: want to return, they put one guy in and when

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Speaker 4: they say they literally say we want a fair catchers

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Speaker 4: catch it.

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Speaker 3: Another guy in. We'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you trust shepherd, you trust girls catch the absolutely it'll.

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Speaker 3: Probably be another will you'll see.

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Speaker 2: But do you do you have different guys you trust though, Like,

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Speaker 2: do you have options?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we got a bunch of guys have

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Speaker 2: Uh, we got guys staying after practice every day, you know,

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Speaker 2: Darius Slayton Darnay. I mean, we got guys that have

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Speaker 5: This team seems to be do you deeper team.

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Speaker 1: As far as talent, speed and all that.

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Speaker 4: Does that translate into better special teams or or special teamers?

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Speaker 1: Kind of a different animal?

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Speaker 2: No, Like I always say, speed is always I always

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Speaker 3: Guys can play.

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Speaker 2: You can be a little bit more simplistic when it

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Speaker 2: so they're not thinking they're out there just playing fast

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Speaker 1: We're focused in on great catching the ball. But does

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Speaker 1: he also have some big playability.

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Speaker 2: It's been it seems like for the last couple of years,

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Speaker 2: it's been guys who can catch the ball now make

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Speaker 1: But does he also have some home run a buildy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean has He's a strong runner, he has

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Speaker 2: growing up in the system. Bless you, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. But Eric, Eric has plenty ability.

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Speaker 4: Can Jam Sims step in quickly if you need him

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Speaker 2: Campus playing this division for the last you know, four

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Speaker 3: We've been going against him.

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Speaker 2: I called him, I called him the h I hit

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Speaker 3: Because he was he was one of their core guys.

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Speaker 2: And he's a great kid, and uh you know he's

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Speaker 3: So but his name is called He'll be ready to

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Speaker 2: The same thing I mean Taiwan's the pro's his thirteenth

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Speaker 3: And that's why he's here, so you can go to

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Speaker 2: He knows exactly who he is, and uh, you know

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Speaker 3: Obviously here for thirteen years, so you've been here a while.

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Speaker 2: This game week still game week with different emotions or

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's it's always fun, especially you know, for years we

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Speaker 4: Speaking of rivals, cowboys have a lookie kicker, do you

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Speaker 2: We try and treat them allways, saying you know rough,

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Speaker 3: We focus on what we do, you know, and we

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Speaker 2: We're trying affect every kicker in a negative way, you know,

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Speaker 2: You know what, I I never go into a game

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Speaker 3: Ever, I always feel like we have a chance and

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: We just our job is focused on us and what

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Speaker 2: You know, executing the fundamentals and techniques and all of

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Speaker 3: That's our job.

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Speaker 5: We don't have a chance with cano?

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Speaker 3: Way about him. Graham. Graham is a pro.

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Speaker 2: You know, Graham is obviously he's talented, and uh he

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Speaker 3: He does a really good job of taking care of himself.

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Speaker 3: You've talked in.

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Speaker 4: The past about you know, you you're very aware of

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Speaker 3: On defense or even on offense, you know.

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Speaker 4: Not that it's a matter of time, but they lose them.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking of a guy like Pennock, who you know, with.

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Speaker 4: It looks like you have some game changers at gunner.

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Speaker 4: Are you prepared knowing that his role is increasing on you?

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Speaker 2: I tell the guys all the time, we hope you graduate, right, So,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just that's just part of the job.

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Speaker 3: As a special teams coach.

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Speaker 2: You try and get the guys prepared to play really

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Speaker 2: I'm happy for for j Penn. He's done a great

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Speaker 1: Man's definitely in that spot across from the pub.

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Speaker 3: As a gunner. Uh, you know, it's it's we're still

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Speaker 2: Uh, we got a bunch of different options, but we're

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Speaker 3: But we'll we'll we'll cross that room when we get there.

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Speaker 3: We got a couple of days, so we'll figure that