WEBVTT - They Brought a Ladder Truck 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:06.480 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:10.600 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:17.599 Armstrong and Getty and now he Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:29.320 Every story I see about cell phones and classrooms makes 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.559 me respond it as they always treat it like it's 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:36.320 news to people that it's a detriment to learning for 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.159 a kid to be sitting in a classroom looking at. 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:39.720 Your cell phone. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:44.120 Well they just figured that out, Jack, that's no discourage. 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.800 Just I don't even know how to process the world sometimes. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.920 I know. We did an interview yesterday with a terrific 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:55.320 guy he writes one of the few remaining newsletters, websites 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.080 or whatever about radio and podcasting that sort of thing. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:00.560 And. 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.560 We were talking about growing the show and all, and 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.720 we both made the point that at this point in 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:13.520 my life, I just want more people to hear sanity. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.640 And I realized it's kind of paying ourselves a compliment. 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:21.200 But when I hear you say people act as if 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:26.080 it's a new discovery that is a smartphone in school 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.279 distracts the kids, My head wants to go Kirk Blue, 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:33.840 I know, or if I see people ignoring Islamism or 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:39.040 misunderstanding how political movements work, or or the Smithsonian Institution 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:44.679 became a you should hate America museum, and then the 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.160 monsters who run it deny it because Marxists sly so much. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.960 I just I want people to hear the other point 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.040 of view. It's not about money or fame. At this point, 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.520 I couldn't give a crap all loough of the money's nice, 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:01.560 but I mean, seriously, point in my life, as Jack 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.440 Offin says in the Winter of Our Lives, it's about, 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.480 Oh my god, if I can like move the football 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:10.320 an inch down the field or back towards sanity. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:10.800 Man, I'd like to do that. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:15.639 Having said that, moving on, I came across this piece. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:18.880 The title of it is I didn't realize how addicted 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:20.639 I was to my phone until I went to prison, 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.640 and I thought, oh, that's kind of a twist. I 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.959 wonder why I went to prison. I'll bet he discovered 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.800 that he's too dependent on his cell phone, and he 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.079 actually found it kind of liberating and enjoyed life in 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:32.200 a weird way more in prison. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.480 And all of that stuff is absolutely true. I would 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:35.639 have suitcased mine. 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:41.720 In Oh Boy, Oh boy, that which is imagined can't 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:47.240 be unimagined. Michael, Oh, Lord, the PROI even worse, But 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.760 it's it turned out to be way more interesting than 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:50.480 I expected. 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:51.320 This guy. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:55.760 First, he describes making his final call to his wife, 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.720 telling her how much he loved her, as his aunt 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.920 and sister were gonna drop him all federal prison. Wife 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.480 was back at home with the kids, trying to preserve 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:09.120 any sense of normalcy. This guy had been on the 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:14.240 Cincinnati City Council for a decade. In twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.680 he was gearing up to run for mayor when the 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.920 FBI targeted him in what he called an elaborate sting operation. 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:24.359 Undercover agents posing his real estate investors made campaign donations 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.440 which I believed to be ordinary and routine and disclosed 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:32.760 in public filings. Federal prosecutors nonetheless indicted me on public 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:37.200 corruption charges, alleging a quid pro quo. He points out 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.160 that he was acquitted on four accounts, convicted on two, 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:44.800 and sentenced to sixteen months. A couple of years later, 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:51.839 the President pardoned him and the Supreme Court unanimously vacated 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:52.800 his convictions. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.000 Nine oh. They said, this guy shouldn't have been tried, 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.520 and he shouldn't have been convicted. So anyway, it's. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.760 All ready I'm like, wow, this story is way more 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.760 interesting than I thought it would be. The landmark case 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:10.520 was the governor of Virginia. What's his face before young kin? 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:14.880 It doesn't matter anyway, So but this guy ended up 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.360 doing quite a bit of time. 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.320 And yeah, he makes the point. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:26.000 That as a politician, especially his cell phone was practically 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.560 a bodily appendage. He goes into the stats the astounding 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.159 amount of time people spend on their phones. 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:32.760 He says, I was no exception. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:35.799 Whenever mine would buzzer, chirp, I'd immediately shift my attention 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.040 from whatever I was doing to the incoming stimuli, even 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.000 though the pings were not always time sensitive work emails, 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:47.080 updates from our kids' school, not always hardly ever, right exactly, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:51.359 relentless spam from political campaigns, he says, yes, even people 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.640 who've held off his eight days, which I thought was 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.680 kind of cute. And then he and his wife would 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:02.200 text each other all the time, and and sometimes it 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:06.520 was and he says, as his sentence got closer, often 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.599 it was unprompted tender I love you text for no 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.920 particular reason, because they realized they were going to be 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:16.360 pulled apart and everything. And yeah, he does come to 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.200 the conclusion you think he's going to. But here's the 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:21.440 other stuff I liked at prison. One of the first 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:25.080 things you see is a poster warning inmates and their 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:30.800 visitors against and threatening punishment for bringing contraband, especially phones, 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.960 onto the compound. And he says, I felt my inability 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.760 to contact my wife acutely at that moment. He had 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.880 like preemptive loneliness because he knew how hard it would be. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:46.760 He got the strip search, they took him to his cell, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.960 he met the guy is Selly, and. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.080 The guy's salid. No. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:57.400 No, they don't mention the food situation at all. And 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.320 he really really wanted to text his wife and tell her, hey, 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.559 it's okay. Everybody's been really cool so far. It's worth 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.040 mentioning he was in one of your club feds okay, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:10.200 as a nonviolent first time offender. But here's what it 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:15.440 gets more interesting. Soon I'd see inmates unveiled smartphones all 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:20.440 around me. Really, yes, the economy inside prisons is an 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:24.320 incredible testament to the power of capitalism and how creatively 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.680 goods will flow to those who want them so long 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:27.560 as the buyer can. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.840 Make it worth it for the seller. Man, So how 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:31.680 are they getting in there? 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.359 Is it the guards smuggled in and probably some guards, 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.159 you know, I don't know at federal prisons. I know 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.479 I've read those stories one hundred times that yeah, the 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.479 guards think, all right, nobody cares. I'm not making a 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.880 ton of money. This guy's a decent guy. He's in whatever, 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.880 he defrauded and whatever. Yeah, I'm gonna get him a 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.640 phone and get a five hundred dollars or whatever. 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.120 I don't know what the rate is. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:57.680 But so several men, knowing I was new, offered to 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.200 let me use their smartphone to FaceTime Sarah, his wife, 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.960 and he desperately wanted to, but he decided I had 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.160 a time on a handful of priorities for navigating his 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:12.239 prison sentence, and one number one was get home, don't 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.440 do anything that could prolong the sentence. I'm not going 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.760 to fight anybody, even if I'm provoked. I'm not going 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.440 to mess around with contraband, including phones. I'm going to 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.040 do my time clean. I'm going to get home to 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:22.360 my kids. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.760 I would be thinking that too, but it tortured. 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.840 Him because everybody had phones, and he didn't want to 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.480 be caught using him and get spent to solitary essentially, 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.080 But it was clear from the first night that many 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.360 men chose to have a contraband phone, accepting the risk 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.320 in large part to keep in touch with their families 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.640 and in the evenings when there are fewer guards around 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.520 and their patrols were more predictable. The housing unit was 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.120 filled with the sounds of men sharing the latest prison 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.920 gossip with their wives and girlfriends, asking their children what 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:54.280 they did at school that day, checking in on aging parents, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.520 and he talked about how much sympathy he had, especially 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.120 the long termers, and he said, now it wasn't a wholesome. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:05.800 Men would scroll YouTube videos, take partaking online sports betting, 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.200 convince women on the outside to date them, then send 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:10.200 them money. 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.880 There had to be some dps flown out, some who 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:16.720 now Richard. 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:20.640 Dolts, Oh my, I hope not Jack anyway. Then he 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.840 talks to how the phone. 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.880 R I certainly hope that's not happening among prisoners, good lord, pictures. 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:30.320 Of their genitals, and then he talks about the phone 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.920 room and how gross they were and how half of 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.400 them didn't work. Most of the time, and I like 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.080 this is a good writing, especially during high traffic times. After 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.679 waiting in line, you'd pick up a phone still warm 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.240 from the grip of the inmate who'd just been using it. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:47.280 The receiver's still smelling like his breath. You stand inches 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.600 away from another man. Well, you both had conversations with 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:53.320 loved ones which were often deeply personal. And then he 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:57.480 talks about the constant recorded message runs every five minutes. 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.800 This call is from a federal prison, etc. 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.920 Etc. But he just he would not break the rules. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.719 Well, our addiction to phones is interesting and known to 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.880 a certain extent. And then there's the only way you 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:13.680 can get me on this story is if it's people 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.520 who either are innocent of their crime or didn't do much. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.439 Otherwise, I don't give a crap if you miss your phone. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:21.680 If you're a criminal, you broke into my house or 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:25.040 my car, or heard somebody screw you, live many years 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:26.320 without your phone comeback. 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.440 Yeah, that's what prison and punishment has been for all 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.360 of mankind. You are miserable and don't want to ever 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:36.720 do that again. That's the point. But just again, the 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.920 details of the story are the interesting part. Prison guards 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.440 would spend hours every weekend literally tearing holes in the 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.079 walls of the housing unit looking for spots where men 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.880 might be storing their smartphones. Sometimes before the daily tallies 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.280 that occurred to ensure all inmates were there and accounted for, 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.760 the guards would jokingly call out, all right, it's count time, guys, 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.199 go ahead and hide your cell phones. But then they'd 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.960 like search like crazy for him on the weekends for 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:02.720 whatever reason. 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.319 Can you imagine how different it would be being in 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:11.360 prison with a phone versus not having a phone completely, Well, 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.520 just imagine your day to day or your kids day today. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:19.439 It's a lot different. Yeah, But then, and this is 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.360 the predictable part. But I think it's absolutely worth hearing again. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.880 I know it is for me. He talked about going 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.840 from a high intensity profession, full family, social life, volunteer commitments, 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.040 and how different prison was. But he said I felt 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.120 an indisputable change that could only be tied to the 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:40.120 lack of a smartphone. Phone induced distractedness, flusteredness, agitation had 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.720 been constance, but they went away. He became more alert 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.760 to what was happening around me. He writes, I sensed 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:49.360 my surroundings. I became better at noticing as winter gave 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.800 way to spring, I tracked the almost hourly change in 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.040 blossoming trees beyond the fences. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.000 I do not doubt this a bit. I'm going to 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.080 get there someday. It's impractical for my current lifestyle with 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.320 working kids, but there will be a day for me 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.440 where I'm gonna put the phone away. 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:09.480 I discussed in debated life's big questions and foundational topics 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.760 with my cellmate, the complications of family dynamics, our greatest 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.680 fears and regrets, our deepest longings for the future. I 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:20.520 wrote poetry, something I'd never done before or since, and. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.079 Man, that should be That should be the challenge everybody 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.960 does every year instead of that needs to be the 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:28.440 new thing. 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:29.480 Instead of uh. 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:36.960 Dry January or New Year's resolutions for various things, everybody 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:42.240 should yearly do Jesus a day, but a week or 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.200 a month or something without our phones. That's what we 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:46.840 should focus on as our addiction. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.800 What are we talking about cigarettes and fast food or 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:55.199 whatever the hell you're going to give up drinking phones? 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.600 That's the thing we all need to, at least once 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.439 a year, remind ourselves what they're doing to us. All right, 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.520 you ready for the final twist. Oh, this is going 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.880 to be like the crying game. If you're too young, 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:07.440 google it. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.280 Oh no, that was a twist. Is a fighting way? 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.439 Sixth sense? Is it like that? Kind of a lot? 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.160 Like that? I see dead cell phones? 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:20.400 Okay, this guy, he's let loose by the Supreme Court 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.120 and the pardon and everything. He goes home, he's all joyful, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.960 and as he resettled in the life he'd missed, he 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.240 tried to avoid the agitating, distracting, intrusive pull of the phone. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:33.959 He kept the phone on do not disturb, putting in 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.920 another room, and only checked it occasionally, left it behind 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.959 when the family went out for a family walker meal. Well, 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.280 within a few months, he writes, I'd reverted to my 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.920 old habits, immediately glancing, engaging in every ping and alert, 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.600 reflectively picking up my phone to scroll through my rotation 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:49.679 of go to websites. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.120 It's an irony. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.520 I'm still grappling with the kind of freedom I learned 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.880 in prison. I couldn't manage to bring home with me. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.000 I don't know, I don't doubt that. That's that's why 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:00.720 I said, someday I'm gonna put it down. It would 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.440 have to be it's for me. I know it would 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.160 have to be all or nothing. I'd have to decide, Okay, 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.600 I'm going flip phone that doesn't even have the abilities, 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.719 and I'm done with this world, and I'll let my 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.360 kids know that. This is how you're gonna have to 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.160 get a hold of me. But the phone thing is 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.760 over for me, and I'm gonna do that someday. Jack, 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.760 I'll give you the final word? Is that what o'reiley 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.079 used to say? Was that the final word? 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:20.160 Er? 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.199 The last word? Anyway? 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.199 I know you know more about addiction than I do, 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:30.840 but versually every addict has gotten away from their addiction 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.560 and said, oh my god, I'm happier, this is better, sure, 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:36.040 and then going back to the addiction. 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.640 That's why it's an addiction, right, I can buy definitish 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:39.640 picture myself this. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.800 Yeah, yeah, exactly, Oh yeah, heck yeah, I know I would. 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.600 Any thoughts on that text line four one five two 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:46.920 nine five k FTC. 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.000 Mike, I'm gonna say it right here. I know you're 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.520 gonna say no because you're a coward. Five debates. 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.240 If you're willing to stand with me and have a conversation, 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.920 you and I both know that you will wither in 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.200 front of your own crimes. But I'm gonna make sure 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:12.480 Michiganders know about. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.679 Them, because at the time we're done, you are not 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.560 going to have safe quarter from people holding you accountable 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.720 to what you've done for them here in Michigan. We 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.520 will send you back to Florida where you belong. Five debates. 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.840 I'm hoping for an answer today. There's gonna be a 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:27.200 lot of fun. 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.640 My got hey, I'm sorry. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.520 I know you have a lot to say, But did 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:37.520 an nine to eleven apologist, fake doctor just calling a 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.280 United States marine a coward? 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.160 Yes, So that's what I was going to bring up. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.680 That's where we're starting. That was day one of this race. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.640 So l saied the Democratic nominee. As you all know, 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.960 if you're paying attention to politics, UH called Mike Rogers 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.640 a coward. Mike Rodgers is out in the last hour 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.040 saying El Sayed is radical and dangerous for America. So 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:04.040 starting day one in the campaign, you're a coward, coward, 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.640 you're a radical, is dangerous for America. So this is 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.800 this is actually going to be not just you know, 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.120 cable news interesting, This is going to be quite the 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:17.080 national conversation. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.760 I think I would agree. I would agree. 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:25.480 And if you're looking for a you know, knockdown drag out, 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.120 El Sayed is evil, but he is talented. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.520 Oh yeah, yeah, he's no pushover. So it's gonna be 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:35.000 quite the battle and people are gonna come. You know, 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.680 is Barack Obama going to be on stage with El 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.040 sayadd at some yes. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:40.520 You think so? Yeah. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.600 I just read that his team is jumping on the 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:44.720 Al Sayed campaign. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.120 Wow advising So Eli Lake was writing today and I 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.080 thought this was a good point. Remember back in two 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:55.440 thousand and eight, Barack Obama had to renounce his association 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.600 with the Reverend Right to get the nomination for the 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.920 Democratic Party and beat Hillary, he had to come out 0:15:59.920 --> 0:16:02.280 and say no, all that stuff the Reverend Wright said 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:06.000 about Goddamn America and everything like that, those videos that 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.880 came out, Barack Obama had to say, no, I'm not 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.120 part of that. I never heard him say that. You know, 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:12.960 we're no longer friends, blah blah blah. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.160 I wasn't in church that day. 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.400 Yeah, right, but he had to at least distance himself 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:22.280 and else I ad got closer to this Hassan piker 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.840 dude saying the same sort of thing days before the election, 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.760 so we're in a different spot. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:30.240 We absolutely are. 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.240 It relates to what I was talking about earlier in 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.200 the show that if I didn't have a tea time 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:40.160 this afternoon, I would write a reply to what's his 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:45.720 name Brooks who writes for the Free Press, because he's 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:50.080 Arthur Brooks. He's claiming that, look, we've had political fads 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.080 on and off through the years. This is just the 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.720 socialism thing. And I bet he would say of Islamism too, 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.920 it's just a fad. But the ground has been fertilized 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.000 for this sort of thing by teaching kids over and 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.520 over again. We should be ashamed of this country and 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.480 our common principles. We should be ashamed of our history. 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:11.040 This is not a great country. So yeah, the ability 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.120 this sort of thing to go way further is well, 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.760 it's scary. But just getting the Muslim vote ain't going 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.560 to be enough to win in Michigan, so he's going 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.480 to have to appeal to more people. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:26.480 Armstrong and Getty, we're completely propped up that we're probably 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.280 going down on im Roger. It's at your discrection faces 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.480 possible spot. We'll get the vehicles out free. 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:32.280 Now. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:33.320 We are not making the airport. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:34.200 We're going down on my ken. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.000 If I wouldn't have seen that shadow over my truck. 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.480 As you said the video, it was a close call 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.560 from the truck and what I signed. But he landed. 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.639 He's a good pilot, he's a good instructor. It was 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.120 a miracle that he landed that thing with no problem. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.200 Is that the latest plane landing someplace it's not supposed 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:53.800 to story that? 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.080 Yeah, it seems to happen every day. Young pilot landed 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:04.000 his plane on the highway in Florida. Gather, Okay, good lord, okay. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.520 I would like an evening news feed that doesn't have 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.840 weather or planes landing places they weren't supposed to land, 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:11.400 and then just get to the actual. 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.159 News of the day that affects me. Sorry, I like weather. 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:19.480 I like it, good, good rate, fifteen minutes weather. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.080 Every night before you get to the news. Yeah, you 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.600 know what, two thousands away from me. It's my guilty pleasure. 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.160 People talk about that for music and that sort of thing. 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.240 That's my guilty news pleasure. Is I like a good 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.120 extreme weather clip, You know my guilty pleasure. That makes 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.040 no sense here, I am mocking people who watch national weather. 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:39.880 That's not even affecting them. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:45.560 Right, scrolling through photos of what celebrities were toward shows. O, 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:50.320 good lord, I know, I know, and I've done it before. 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:51.879 I've done it so many times. I think, why am 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.720 I doing this? I don't care it. I don't know 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.879 who these people are. I don't do the extent that 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.520 I know that I hate them. Yeah, the ones I know. 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.000 I hate the rest of them. I don't know at all, 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.359 And I don't care. I couldn't give a crap what 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:03.359 designer they're wearing. 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.360 Oh and I scrolled through the photo. Ryan h that's 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:09.400 a crazy dress. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:14.919 Yeah. Yeah, anyway, so you probably know this, but the 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:20.040 statistics are interesting. The US economy keeps putting more eggs 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.359 in the AI basket. You got tech companies spending hundreds 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.960 of billions of dollars to meet their computing needs for 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.639 the AI systems. They're issuing billions of dollars of debt 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.280 billions to make those purchases. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:33.320 Corporate bonds. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.200 Rapid data center build out is powering construction spending and 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:42.600 hiring and municipal revenues and taxes. Meanwhile, the stock market 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.280 rally has been fueled by the rise in shares of 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.560 the chip makers and other companies that benefit from all 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.840 of the above, which, now, if you're in the market, 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.000 everybody looks at their accounts and says, wow, I'm more 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:57.639 wealthy than I thought. I'm going to spend some money. 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:03.159 So that's been supporting consumers. Now you ask ten economists 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.879 for their opinion, you'll get ten different opinions. But they 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.080 quote this one dude who says, combined those factors are 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:14.760 probably about one third of our recent economic growth. One 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.320 third of it is AI fueled. 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:24.440 I mentioned earlier, So what day was it doesn't matter? Tuesday, 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.399 Like every index set of record Tuesday, and it was 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.960 like the twenty fourth record set this year for the Dow, 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.520 twenty fifth record for the S and P. I mean 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.679 just it's it's really wild, and so much of it 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.879 is driven by this AI stuff, and so much of 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:40.840 that is a guess. 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:45.439 Yeah, yeah, it's it's maybe a speculation might not be 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:47.359 the right word when we're talking about the stock market, 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:49.800 but it's hope and optimism. 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:52.240 Anyway, I thought that was interesting. 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.800 A third, yikes, speaking of computers in AI and that 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.000 sort of thing, have you even heard of? 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:02.760 What not? The live showopping app. No neither. And I 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:05.720 here's a forty five year old. 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.879 Accountant who was so addicted to it he spent his 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:11.959