Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and now he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1: Every story I see about cell phones and classrooms makes
Speaker 1: me respond it as they always treat it like it's
Speaker 1: news to people that it's a detriment to learning for
Speaker 1: a kid to be sitting in a classroom looking at.
Speaker 2: Your cell phone.
Speaker 1: Well they just figured that out, Jack, that's no discourage.
Speaker 1: Just I don't even know how to process the world sometimes.
Speaker 3: I know. We did an interview yesterday with a terrific
Speaker 3: guy he writes one of the few remaining newsletters, websites
Speaker 3: or whatever about radio and podcasting that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 3: We were talking about growing the show and all, and
Speaker 3: we both made the point that at this point in
Speaker 3: my life, I just want more people to hear sanity.
Speaker 3: And I realized it's kind of paying ourselves a compliment.
Speaker 3: But when I hear you say people act as if
Speaker 3: it's a new discovery that is a smartphone in school
Speaker 3: distracts the kids, My head wants to go Kirk Blue,
Speaker 3: I know, or if I see people ignoring Islamism or
Speaker 3: misunderstanding how political movements work, or or the Smithsonian Institution
Speaker 3: became a you should hate America museum, and then the
Speaker 3: monsters who run it deny it because Marxists sly so much.
Speaker 3: I just I want people to hear the other point
Speaker 3: of view. It's not about money or fame. At this point,
Speaker 3: I couldn't give a crap all loough of the money's nice,
Speaker 3: but I mean, seriously, point in my life, as Jack
Speaker 3: Offin says in the Winter of Our Lives, it's about,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, if I can like move the football
Speaker 3: an inch down the field or back towards sanity.
Speaker 2: Man, I'd like to do that.
Speaker 3: Having said that, moving on, I came across this piece.
Speaker 3: The title of it is I didn't realize how addicted
Speaker 3: I was to my phone until I went to prison,
Speaker 3: and I thought, oh, that's kind of a twist. I
Speaker 3: wonder why I went to prison. I'll bet he discovered
Speaker 3: that he's too dependent on his cell phone, and he
Speaker 3: actually found it kind of liberating and enjoyed life in
Speaker 3: a weird way more in prison.
Speaker 2: And all of that stuff is absolutely true. I would
Speaker 2: have suitcased mine.
Speaker 3: In Oh Boy, Oh boy, that which is imagined can't
Speaker 3: be unimagined. Michael, Oh, Lord, the PROI even worse, But
Speaker 3: it's it turned out to be way more interesting than
Speaker 3: I expected.
Speaker 2: This guy.
Speaker 3: First, he describes making his final call to his wife,
Speaker 3: telling her how much he loved her, as his aunt
Speaker 3: and sister were gonna drop him all federal prison. Wife
Speaker 3: was back at home with the kids, trying to preserve
Speaker 3: any sense of normalcy. This guy had been on the
Speaker 3: Cincinnati City Council for a decade. In twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 3: he was gearing up to run for mayor when the
Speaker 3: FBI targeted him in what he called an elaborate sting operation.
Speaker 3: Undercover agents posing his real estate investors made campaign donations
Speaker 3: which I believed to be ordinary and routine and disclosed
Speaker 3: in public filings. Federal prosecutors nonetheless indicted me on public
Speaker 3: corruption charges, alleging a quid pro quo. He points out
Speaker 3: that he was acquitted on four accounts, convicted on two,
Speaker 3: and sentenced to sixteen months. A couple of years later,
Speaker 3: the President pardoned him and the Supreme Court unanimously vacated
Speaker 3: his convictions.
Speaker 2: Nine oh. They said, this guy shouldn't have been tried,
Speaker 2: and he shouldn't have been convicted. So anyway, it's.
Speaker 3: All ready I'm like, wow, this story is way more
Speaker 3: interesting than I thought it would be. The landmark case
Speaker 3: was the governor of Virginia. What's his face before young kin?
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter anyway, So but this guy ended up
Speaker 3: doing quite a bit of time.
Speaker 2: And yeah, he makes the point.
Speaker 3: That as a politician, especially his cell phone was practically
Speaker 3: a bodily appendage. He goes into the stats the astounding
Speaker 3: amount of time people spend on their phones.
Speaker 2: He says, I was no exception.
Speaker 3: Whenever mine would buzzer, chirp, I'd immediately shift my attention
Speaker 3: from whatever I was doing to the incoming stimuli, even
Speaker 3: though the pings were not always time sensitive work emails,
Speaker 3: updates from our kids' school, not always hardly ever, right exactly,
Speaker 3: relentless spam from political campaigns, he says, yes, even people
Speaker 3: who've held off his eight days, which I thought was
Speaker 3: kind of cute. And then he and his wife would
Speaker 3: text each other all the time, and and sometimes it
Speaker 3: was and he says, as his sentence got closer, often
Speaker 3: it was unprompted tender I love you text for no
Speaker 3: particular reason, because they realized they were going to be
Speaker 3: pulled apart and everything. And yeah, he does come to
Speaker 3: the conclusion you think he's going to. But here's the
Speaker 3: other stuff I liked at prison. One of the first
Speaker 3: things you see is a poster warning inmates and their
Speaker 3: visitors against and threatening punishment for bringing contraband, especially phones,
Speaker 3: onto the compound. And he says, I felt my inability
Speaker 3: to contact my wife acutely at that moment. He had
Speaker 3: like preemptive loneliness because he knew how hard it would be.
Speaker 3: He got the strip search, they took him to his cell,
Speaker 3: he met the guy is Selly, and.
Speaker 2: The guy's salid. No.
Speaker 3: No, they don't mention the food situation at all. And
Speaker 3: he really really wanted to text his wife and tell her, hey,
Speaker 3: it's okay. Everybody's been really cool so far. It's worth
Speaker 3: mentioning he was in one of your club feds okay,
Speaker 3: as a nonviolent first time offender. But here's what it
Speaker 3: gets more interesting. Soon I'd see inmates unveiled smartphones all
Speaker 3: around me. Really, yes, the economy inside prisons is an
Speaker 3: incredible testament to the power of capitalism and how creatively
Speaker 3: goods will flow to those who want them so long
Speaker 3: as the buyer can.
Speaker 2: Make it worth it for the seller. Man, So how
Speaker 2: are they getting in there?
Speaker 3: Is it the guards smuggled in and probably some guards,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know at federal prisons. I know
Speaker 3: I've read those stories one hundred times that yeah, the
Speaker 3: guards think, all right, nobody cares. I'm not making a
Speaker 3: ton of money. This guy's a decent guy. He's in whatever,
Speaker 3: he defrauded and whatever. Yeah, I'm gonna get him a
Speaker 3: phone and get a five hundred dollars or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the rate is.
Speaker 3: But so several men, knowing I was new, offered to
Speaker 3: let me use their smartphone to FaceTime Sarah, his wife,
Speaker 3: and he desperately wanted to, but he decided I had
Speaker 3: a time on a handful of priorities for navigating his
Speaker 3: prison sentence, and one number one was get home, don't
Speaker 3: do anything that could prolong the sentence. I'm not going
Speaker 3: to fight anybody, even if I'm provoked. I'm not going
Speaker 3: to mess around with contraband, including phones. I'm going to
Speaker 3: do my time clean. I'm going to get home to
Speaker 3: my kids.
Speaker 2: I would be thinking that too, but it tortured.
Speaker 3: Him because everybody had phones, and he didn't want to
Speaker 3: be caught using him and get spent to solitary essentially,
Speaker 3: But it was clear from the first night that many
Speaker 3: men chose to have a contraband phone, accepting the risk
Speaker 3: in large part to keep in touch with their families
Speaker 3: and in the evenings when there are fewer guards around
Speaker 3: and their patrols were more predictable. The housing unit was
Speaker 3: filled with the sounds of men sharing the latest prison
Speaker 3: gossip with their wives and girlfriends, asking their children what
Speaker 3: they did at school that day, checking in on aging parents,
Speaker 3: and he talked about how much sympathy he had, especially
Speaker 3: the long termers, and he said, now it wasn't a wholesome.
Speaker 3: Men would scroll YouTube videos, take partaking online sports betting,
Speaker 3: convince women on the outside to date them, then send
Speaker 3: them money.
Speaker 1: There had to be some dps flown out, some who
Speaker 1: now Richard.
Speaker 3: Dolts, Oh my, I hope not Jack anyway. Then he
Speaker 3: talks to how the phone.
Speaker 1: R I certainly hope that's not happening among prisoners, good lord, pictures.
Speaker 3: Of their genitals, and then he talks about the phone
Speaker 3: room and how gross they were and how half of
Speaker 3: them didn't work. Most of the time, and I like
Speaker 3: this is a good writing, especially during high traffic times. After
Speaker 3: waiting in line, you'd pick up a phone still warm
Speaker 3: from the grip of the inmate who'd just been using it.
Speaker 3: The receiver's still smelling like his breath. You stand inches
Speaker 3: away from another man. Well, you both had conversations with
Speaker 3: loved ones which were often deeply personal. And then he
Speaker 3: talks about the constant recorded message runs every five minutes.
Speaker 3: This call is from a federal prison, etc.
Speaker 2: Etc. But he just he would not break the rules.
Speaker 1: Well, our addiction to phones is interesting and known to
Speaker 1: a certain extent. And then there's the only way you
Speaker 1: can get me on this story is if it's people
Speaker 1: who either are innocent of their crime or didn't do much.
Speaker 2: Otherwise, I don't give a crap if you miss your phone.
Speaker 1: If you're a criminal, you broke into my house or
Speaker 1: my car, or heard somebody screw you, live many years
Speaker 1: without your phone comeback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what prison and punishment has been for all
Speaker 3: of mankind. You are miserable and don't want to ever
Speaker 3: do that again. That's the point. But just again, the
Speaker 3: details of the story are the interesting part. Prison guards
Speaker 3: would spend hours every weekend literally tearing holes in the
Speaker 3: walls of the housing unit looking for spots where men
Speaker 3: might be storing their smartphones. Sometimes before the daily tallies
Speaker 3: that occurred to ensure all inmates were there and accounted for,
Speaker 3: the guards would jokingly call out, all right, it's count time, guys,
Speaker 3: go ahead and hide your cell phones. But then they'd
Speaker 3: like search like crazy for him on the weekends for
Speaker 3: whatever reason.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine how different it would be being in
Speaker 1: prison with a phone versus not having a phone completely, Well,
Speaker 1: just imagine your day to day or your kids day today.
Speaker 3: It's a lot different. Yeah, But then, and this is
Speaker 3: the predictable part. But I think it's absolutely worth hearing again.
Speaker 3: I know it is for me. He talked about going
Speaker 3: from a high intensity profession, full family, social life, volunteer commitments,
Speaker 3: and how different prison was. But he said I felt
Speaker 3: an indisputable change that could only be tied to the
Speaker 3: lack of a smartphone. Phone induced distractedness, flusteredness, agitation had
Speaker 3: been constance, but they went away. He became more alert
Speaker 3: to what was happening around me. He writes, I sensed
Speaker 3: my surroundings. I became better at noticing as winter gave
Speaker 3: way to spring, I tracked the almost hourly change in
Speaker 3: blossoming trees beyond the fences.
Speaker 1: I do not doubt this a bit. I'm going to
Speaker 1: get there someday. It's impractical for my current lifestyle with
Speaker 1: working kids, but there will be a day for me
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna put the phone away.
Speaker 3: I discussed in debated life's big questions and foundational topics
Speaker 3: with my cellmate, the complications of family dynamics, our greatest
Speaker 3: fears and regrets, our deepest longings for the future. I
Speaker 3: wrote poetry, something I'd never done before or since, and.
Speaker 1: Man, that should be That should be the challenge everybody
Speaker 1: does every year instead of that needs to be the
Speaker 1: new thing.
Speaker 2: Instead of uh.
Speaker 1: Dry January or New Year's resolutions for various things, everybody
Speaker 1: should yearly do Jesus a day, but a week or
Speaker 1: a month or something without our phones. That's what we
Speaker 1: should focus on as our addiction.
Speaker 3: What are we talking about cigarettes and fast food or
Speaker 3: whatever the hell you're going to give up drinking phones?
Speaker 3: That's the thing we all need to, at least once
Speaker 3: a year, remind ourselves what they're doing to us. All right,
Speaker 3: you ready for the final twist. Oh, this is going
Speaker 3: to be like the crying game. If you're too young,
Speaker 3: google it.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that was a twist. Is a fighting way?
Speaker 2: Sixth sense? Is it like that? Kind of a lot?
Speaker 2: Like that? I see dead cell phones?
Speaker 3: Okay, this guy, he's let loose by the Supreme Court
Speaker 3: and the pardon and everything. He goes home, he's all joyful,
Speaker 3: and as he resettled in the life he'd missed, he
Speaker 3: tried to avoid the agitating, distracting, intrusive pull of the phone.
Speaker 3: He kept the phone on do not disturb, putting in
Speaker 3: another room, and only checked it occasionally, left it behind
Speaker 3: when the family went out for a family walker meal. Well,
Speaker 3: within a few months, he writes, I'd reverted to my
Speaker 3: old habits, immediately glancing, engaging in every ping and alert,
Speaker 3: reflectively picking up my phone to scroll through my rotation
Speaker 3: of go to websites.
Speaker 2: It's an irony.
Speaker 3: I'm still grappling with the kind of freedom I learned
Speaker 3: in prison. I couldn't manage to bring home with me.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't doubt that. That's that's why
Speaker 1: I said, someday I'm gonna put it down. It would
Speaker 1: have to be it's for me. I know it would
Speaker 1: have to be all or nothing. I'd have to decide, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going flip phone that doesn't even have the abilities,
Speaker 1: and I'm done with this world, and I'll let my
Speaker 1: kids know that. This is how you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: get a hold of me. But the phone thing is
Speaker 1: over for me, and I'm gonna do that someday. Jack,
Speaker 1: I'll give you the final word? Is that what o'reiley
Speaker 1: used to say? Was that the final word?
Speaker 4: Er?
Speaker 2: The last word? Anyway?
Speaker 3: I know you know more about addiction than I do,
Speaker 3: but versually every addict has gotten away from their addiction
Speaker 3: and said, oh my god, I'm happier, this is better, sure,
Speaker 3: and then going back to the addiction.
Speaker 2: That's why it's an addiction, right, I can buy definitish
Speaker 2: picture myself this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Oh yeah, heck yeah, I know I would.
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on that text line four one five two
Speaker 1: nine five k FTC.
Speaker 4: Mike, I'm gonna say it right here. I know you're
Speaker 4: gonna say no because you're a coward. Five debates.
Speaker 5: If you're willing to stand with me and have a conversation,
Speaker 5: you and I both know that you will wither in
Speaker 5: front of your own crimes. But I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 5: Michiganders know about.
Speaker 4: Them, because at the time we're done, you are not
Speaker 4: going to have safe quarter from people holding you accountable
Speaker 4: to what you've done for them here in Michigan. We
Speaker 4: will send you back to Florida where you belong. Five debates.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping for an answer today. There's gonna be a
Speaker 4: lot of fun.
Speaker 2: My got hey, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I know you have a lot to say, But did
Speaker 3: an nine to eleven apologist, fake doctor just calling a
Speaker 3: United States marine a coward?
Speaker 1: Yes, So that's what I was going to bring up.
Speaker 1: That's where we're starting. That was day one of this race.
Speaker 1: So l saied the Democratic nominee. As you all know,
Speaker 1: if you're paying attention to politics, UH called Mike Rogers
Speaker 1: a coward. Mike Rodgers is out in the last hour
Speaker 1: saying El Sayed is radical and dangerous for America. So
Speaker 1: starting day one in the campaign, you're a coward, coward,
Speaker 1: you're a radical, is dangerous for America. So this is
Speaker 1: this is actually going to be not just you know,
Speaker 1: cable news interesting, This is going to be quite the
Speaker 1: national conversation.
Speaker 2: I think I would agree. I would agree.
Speaker 3: And if you're looking for a you know, knockdown drag out,
Speaker 3: El Sayed is evil, but he is talented.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he's no pushover. So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: quite the battle and people are gonna come. You know,
Speaker 1: is Barack Obama going to be on stage with El
Speaker 1: sayadd at some yes.
Speaker 2: You think so? Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just read that his team is jumping on the
Speaker 3: Al Sayed campaign.
Speaker 1: Wow advising So Eli Lake was writing today and I
Speaker 1: thought this was a good point. Remember back in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, Barack Obama had to renounce his association
Speaker 1: with the Reverend Right to get the nomination for the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party and beat Hillary, he had to come out
Speaker 1: and say no, all that stuff the Reverend Wright said
Speaker 1: about Goddamn America and everything like that, those videos that
Speaker 1: came out, Barack Obama had to say, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: part of that. I never heard him say that. You know,
Speaker 1: we're no longer friends, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: I wasn't in church that day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but he had to at least distance himself
Speaker 1: and else I ad got closer to this Hassan piker
Speaker 1: dude saying the same sort of thing days before the election,
Speaker 1: so we're in a different spot.
Speaker 2: We absolutely are.
Speaker 3: It relates to what I was talking about earlier in
Speaker 3: the show that if I didn't have a tea time
Speaker 3: this afternoon, I would write a reply to what's his
Speaker 3: name Brooks who writes for the Free Press, because he's
Speaker 3: Arthur Brooks. He's claiming that, look, we've had political fads
Speaker 3: on and off through the years. This is just the
Speaker 3: socialism thing. And I bet he would say of Islamism too,
Speaker 3: it's just a fad. But the ground has been fertilized
Speaker 3: for this sort of thing by teaching kids over and
Speaker 3: over again. We should be ashamed of this country and
Speaker 3: our common principles. We should be ashamed of our history.
Speaker 3: This is not a great country. So yeah, the ability
Speaker 3: this sort of thing to go way further is well,
Speaker 3: it's scary. But just getting the Muslim vote ain't going
Speaker 3: to be enough to win in Michigan, so he's going
Speaker 3: to have to appeal to more people.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty, we're completely propped up that we're probably
Speaker 2: going down on im Roger. It's at your discrection faces
Speaker 2: possible spot. We'll get the vehicles out free.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: We are not making the airport.
Speaker 3: We're going down on my ken.
Speaker 7: If I wouldn't have seen that shadow over my truck.
Speaker 7: As you said the video, it was a close call
Speaker 7: from the truck and what I signed. But he landed.
Speaker 7: He's a good pilot, he's a good instructor. It was
Speaker 7: a miracle that he landed that thing with no problem.
Speaker 1: Is that the latest plane landing someplace it's not supposed
Speaker 1: to story that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to happen every day. Young pilot landed
Speaker 2: his plane on the highway in Florida. Gather, Okay, good lord, okay.
Speaker 1: I would like an evening news feed that doesn't have
Speaker 1: weather or planes landing places they weren't supposed to land,
Speaker 1: and then just get to the actual.
Speaker 3: News of the day that affects me. Sorry, I like weather.
Speaker 3: I like it, good, good rate, fifteen minutes weather.
Speaker 1: Every night before you get to the news. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what, two thousands away from me. It's my guilty pleasure.
Speaker 1: People talk about that for music and that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: That's my guilty news pleasure. Is I like a good
Speaker 1: extreme weather clip, You know my guilty pleasure. That makes
Speaker 1: no sense here, I am mocking people who watch national weather.
Speaker 2: That's not even affecting them.
Speaker 1: Right, scrolling through photos of what celebrities were toward shows. O,
Speaker 1: good lord, I know, I know, and I've done it before.
Speaker 1: I've done it so many times. I think, why am
Speaker 1: I doing this? I don't care it. I don't know
Speaker 1: who these people are. I don't do the extent that
Speaker 1: I know that I hate them. Yeah, the ones I know.
Speaker 1: I hate the rest of them. I don't know at all,
Speaker 1: And I don't care. I couldn't give a crap what
Speaker 1: designer they're wearing.
Speaker 2: Oh and I scrolled through the photo. Ryan h that's
Speaker 2: a crazy dress. Yeah, it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, anyway, so you probably know this, but the
Speaker 3: statistics are interesting. The US economy keeps putting more eggs
Speaker 3: in the AI basket. You got tech companies spending hundreds
Speaker 3: of billions of dollars to meet their computing needs for
Speaker 3: the AI systems. They're issuing billions of dollars of debt
Speaker 3: billions to make those purchases.
Speaker 2: Corporate bonds.
Speaker 3: Rapid data center build out is powering construction spending and
Speaker 3: hiring and municipal revenues and taxes. Meanwhile, the stock market
Speaker 3: rally has been fueled by the rise in shares of
Speaker 3: the chip makers and other companies that benefit from all
Speaker 3: of the above, which, now, if you're in the market,
Speaker 3: everybody looks at their accounts and says, wow, I'm more
Speaker 3: wealthy than I thought. I'm going to spend some money.
Speaker 3: So that's been supporting consumers. Now you ask ten economists
Speaker 3: for their opinion, you'll get ten different opinions. But they
Speaker 3: quote this one dude who says, combined those factors are
Speaker 3: probably about one third of our recent economic growth. One
Speaker 3: third of it is AI fueled.
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, So what day was it doesn't matter? Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Like every index set of record Tuesday, and it was
Speaker 1: like the twenty fourth record set this year for the Dow,
Speaker 1: twenty fifth record for the S and P. I mean
Speaker 1: just it's it's really wild, and so much of it
Speaker 1: is driven by this AI stuff, and so much of
Speaker 1: that is a guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's maybe a speculation might not be
Speaker 3: the right word when we're talking about the stock market,
Speaker 3: but it's hope and optimism.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 3: A third, yikes, speaking of computers in AI and that
Speaker 3: sort of thing, have you even heard of?
Speaker 2: What not? The live showopping app. No neither. And I
Speaker 2: here's a forty five year old.
Speaker 3: Accountant who was so addicted to it he spent his
Speaker 3: entire life savings. And he's a married man with children.
Speaker 3: I believe well, i'd soon to be formerly married man
Speaker 3: spent his entire personal savings, personal loans, money borrowed from
Speaker 3: a friend, and finally from his employer's company credit card,
Speaker 3: one point four million dollars on this live shopping auction app.
Speaker 3: It's oh, you know what i'd ask I'd intend to
Speaker 3: ask for this audio. Hang on a second. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: put my microphone right by my computer.
Speaker 2: I think this will be loud enough. See if this works?
Speaker 3: Michael, Uh, where is it?
Speaker 2: Sorry? Okay, sorry you honest say h.
Speaker 5: Louder?
Speaker 2: Uh this is how it sounds. Yeah, here he goes.
Speaker 2: Only two available, very rare. We'll not have it again.
Speaker 2: Threat do one go? Volume was a thirty year Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean dad, here we go.
Speaker 3: So you got these like hypemen young hosts selling rare
Speaker 3: Pokemon cards or it could be anything, absolutely anything, and
Speaker 3: you bid in real time like it's a real auction though,
Speaker 3: but in dollar increments, the company is going to surpass
Speaker 3: a billion dollars in revenue this year, and evidently it's
Speaker 3: the latest thing that people are getting addicted to and
Speaker 3: spending all their life savings because of the excitement of it.
Speaker 2: And it's called I've got what not? I might check
Speaker 2: that out.
Speaker 3: You're gonna go broke, trading cards, squishy toys, designer fashions,
Speaker 3: instant Rahman.
Speaker 1: So is the appeal? Is the appeal that I'm going
Speaker 1: to get a really good deal?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it. I'll read the account. The design
Speaker 3: supercharges traditional shopping sites such as eBay and Amazon with
Speaker 3: high pressure or countdown auctions, often run by hosts who
Speaker 3: urge buyers to bit higher and faster. The most feverish
Speaker 3: shows are built around breaks, they call them, where a
Speaker 3: person buys an opportunity to win an unknown, potentially valuable collectible,
Speaker 3: all the while emotionally charged chat feeds can amp up
Speaker 3: the competition.
Speaker 2: Wow, I think if you lose all.
Speaker 3: Your money to this, you're gonna lose all your money
Speaker 3: to something, right. You have that addictive to excitement tendency.
Speaker 2: Huh. I don't quite understand the appeal, but I haven't
Speaker 2: done it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's because it's in the moment, it's exciting.
Speaker 3: You see a countdown clock. There's just twenty seconds left.
Speaker 3: I can get this for a bargain if I just
Speaker 3: do another dollar, another dollar.
Speaker 2: Another time.
Speaker 1: I've done it on a minor level with eBay before,
Speaker 1: where I'm like, get excited and somebody else is bidding
Speaker 1: and I'm bidding and the time's coming up, and then
Speaker 1: at the end when I get in, like what do
Speaker 1: that for?
Speaker 2: I don't want to pay that much for that. It
Speaker 2: just got caught up into something or other that whole
Speaker 2: there's five seconds left. Hell, it's just another twenty hours. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: and you had it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Evidently people have no defense. Some people have no defense
Speaker 3: about that against that rather and they just they ruined themselves.
Speaker 2: Wish I'd a thought of what not?
Speaker 3: Dude, you ruined your marriage, you spent all your money,
Speaker 3: you stole from your company, you stole from your friends.
Speaker 3: I'm just astounded by this. All right, One more AI
Speaker 3: story for you. Doctors are starting to get annoyed because
Speaker 3: all their patients are reading their test results with AI
Speaker 3: and diagnosing themselves. Sometimes even when the doctor's in the
Speaker 3: room saying, yeah, maybe I'm gonna go ask AI.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: One doctor says, why are you here? I'm sure that
Speaker 3: does happen a lot. Yeah, yeah, I've done it myself.
Speaker 3: See ah, you know, I'm about to get my standard
Speaker 3: old guy blood work done in a week or two.
Speaker 3: And you know, if if something's out of range and
Speaker 3: I don't know what bill urubin is, for instance.
Speaker 2: Or whatever, I've got too much of it or not
Speaker 2: enough of it, Oh my god, either way, oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've gone to AI and said, all right, what
Speaker 3: is this? Is it significant to be at a point
Speaker 3: six instead of a point five?
Speaker 1: And you know what you can do? I just learned
Speaker 1: this from somebody else. I need to do more screen capturing.
Speaker 1: Instead of typing stuff in, you just screen capture it.
Speaker 1: You don't even need to ask a question. You just
Speaker 1: screen capture your blood work, put it in the chat
Speaker 1: GPT thing, and it comes back with all the information.
Speaker 1: It assumes you're wondering about it, and it just tells
Speaker 1: you that looks good, that's too high, that's too low.
Speaker 2: That one's fine, that's normal, and.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's crazy. I didtually speaking to eBay. I had
Speaker 1: a thing I was kind of interested in. I just
Speaker 1: screen captured the eBay thing. The auction picture of it price.
Speaker 1: But I just posted that and it said, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: scanning the internet. That doesn't look like a very good
Speaker 1: price to me. I think there's lots of places you
Speaker 1: can find.
Speaker 2: It's just what this amazing? Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's like a super fast personal assistant.
Speaker 2: Jones tell me if this is a good price, Yes,
Speaker 2: right away, Sarah, Yeah, I found it.
Speaker 1: I found it new cheaper at this store in Minnesota
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: It's just it's stunning what AI can do.
Speaker 3: My wife and I take a lot of walks in nature,
Speaker 3: and so we've had these apps that you can take
Speaker 3: a picture of a bug or a plant or whatever
Speaker 3: and say what is this? Now? Just do it with
Speaker 3: the chatbots. They immediately give me great answers. So sorry,
Speaker 3: app makers.
Speaker 1: I did it with a little skin weirdness on one
Speaker 1: of my kids, like is this ringworm?
Speaker 3: Or what that is? Took a picture, nailed it immediately.
Speaker 3: I did that too, before I went to see my dermatologist. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's the right. It was gone rhea. It was
Speaker 3: goneria again and it's it's the doctor Google thing on steroid,
Speaker 3: says one internist in Flora. You can get everything from
Speaker 3: you have a COLDI you're dying of cancer, but haven't.
Speaker 2: You had the experience? Were the doctors doing that though?
Speaker 1: They basically are taking the symptoms in and then seeing
Speaker 1: what the AI tells them.
Speaker 2: So what am I doing here? What are you doing here?
Speaker 2: What are we all doing here? Yeah? No kidding, And
Speaker 2: I won't take it anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah they have diagnostic software, Yes, absolutely, and they should. Mike,
Speaker 3: I drank a little bit too much last night or
Speaker 3: you know that was the day missed medical school or whatever.
Speaker 2: They go ahead, look it up. I got a minute,
Speaker 2: look it up. I have.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about this doctor's appointment I have tomorrow.
Speaker 1: This is a usually you're not excited about doctors appointments.
Speaker 1: I'm finally going to an E and T specialist over
Speaker 1: the fact that I can't taste sweet ever since I
Speaker 1: got COVID, well, one of the COVID's. I got COVID
Speaker 1: four times, but one of the times I got COVID,
Speaker 1: I lost my ability to taste various things. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get the full run through tomorrow, and I can't
Speaker 1: wait to see what I can and can't taste, or
Speaker 1: what's my imagination.
Speaker 2: Or there's anything to do to fix it.
Speaker 1: The doctor did tell me, he said, I got to
Speaker 1: tell you, I've not seen hardly any result of people
Speaker 1: fixing this problem. Oh, if that's your goal, And I said,
Speaker 1: I don't need to fix it, I just would kind of.
Speaker 2: Like to know if it's my imagination or what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a similar thing in that sweet dies
Speaker 1: in my mouth because I'm so bitter.
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: It's sweet and not being able to taste sweet and
Speaker 1: makes you eat more sweets. I have learned that, which
Speaker 1: is so damned weird, and I just wonder. I wish
Speaker 1: there was some way around that that I would like
Speaker 1: to tackle. I eat more donuts and crap like that
Speaker 1: since I lost the ability to taste sweet than I
Speaker 1: ever did in my life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's counterintuitive at first, until you think, all right, obviously,
Speaker 3: deep in your caveman brain, there's a need to take
Speaker 3: in a certain amount of fruit.
Speaker 1: Probably, But then my yeah, probably, But I don't get
Speaker 1: the prehistoric snicker bars are you know, rarely seen? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, the I've eaten too much sweeter. That's too
Speaker 1: sweet for me. I can't have that happen anymore. H
Speaker 1: But then my son says, so, what do you like
Speaker 1: about it? What are you doing it?
Speaker 2: Why are you eating it? If?
Speaker 1: I don't know? So that's one thing I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out. Well, right, I think that kind of proves
Speaker 1: my case. You're not enjoying it. It's some deep urge
Speaker 1: that you have to pursue. It's weird, though. I can
Speaker 1: take a bite of pie and no sweet to what sure?
Speaker 1: Or I'll get bitter, I'll get sour, I'll get no sweet.
Speaker 3: Wow, And you, who love pie more than anyone, right,
Speaker 3: still carry a fork.
Speaker 2: I have a fork in my car. Yes, Why wouldn't
Speaker 2: you have a fork in your car in case you're hunger? Wow?
Speaker 2: How about a plate not a dishwasher.
Speaker 3: I don't know that'd be funny if you had a
Speaker 3: dishwasher in your car.
Speaker 1: Just came across something interesting. But we're shooting for about
Speaker 1: that nut job up in I shouldn't call him a
Speaker 1: nut job. He's not a nutjob. He's an evil anti
Speaker 1: semit I head up in Michigan, among other things. On
Speaker 1: the way We'll finish strong stay.
Speaker 2: Here, CNN.
Speaker 3: Compared to l c Ie to Hillary Clinton in reality,
Speaker 3: he's more like Bill since they both dream about being
Speaker 3: with seventy two virgins.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good joke.
Speaker 1: Poor Bill still taking it on the chin from.
Speaker 3: A lifetime of flandering, a lifetime of cheating on his wife.
Speaker 1: Right, I had something I was going to talk about about.
Speaker 1: I've lost all interest in it. I was walking with
Speaker 1: my son last night. He's starting high school. Actually for
Speaker 1: him it's a pretty big deal. He's never been in
Speaker 1: regular school really ever and he's going to be in
Speaker 1: regular school for the first time in his life, starting
Speaker 1: high school here in a couple of weeks, so it's
Speaker 1: kind of a big deal. But trying to convince both
Speaker 1: of my kids to try harder having much success, and
Speaker 1: maybe it's the instrument that is being used me since
Speaker 1: I am a lifetime shooting for a be guy, do
Speaker 1: enough to get by guy. Much of my life, in
Speaker 1: most things, pretty much everything in life except for radio,
Speaker 1: I've done that, uh, just enough to get by. And
Speaker 1: you know, there's advantages and disadvantages, I guess, but the
Speaker 1: wondering what you could accomplish if you applied yourself is
Speaker 1: you know, it's a something to carry around later in life.
Speaker 3: Boy, that's absolutely true and difficult to use as a
Speaker 3: lever right, I mean you might, Like I'm always saying,
Speaker 3: I think maybe there's like a twenty percent leeway. You
Speaker 3: can get twenty percent better at something, or more of
Speaker 3: this or less that if you really try. But a
Speaker 3: lot of it's genetics. My three kids, if you had
Speaker 3: selected them at random from the entire continental United States, Nay,
Speaker 3: let's add the two fake states Alaska, Hawaii, if you
Speaker 3: had selected them at random from the fifty states, they
Speaker 3: could not be more different in terms of a self
Speaker 3: motivation and the ability or abilitatease.
Speaker 2: They all have abilities. But uh right, yeah, you might
Speaker 2: so different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's some of My youngest was meeting with a
Speaker 1: counselor sort of interview person at the high school yesterday,
Speaker 1: and for some reason this is dumb in retrospect. I
Speaker 1: had to need to go back and talk to the
Speaker 1: guy and say, because he already knows the older one,
Speaker 1: he already knows one of my kids. Now he's just
Speaker 1: been introduced to the other kid. And I said, they're
Speaker 1: very different. I'm like, guy's got kids, he knows. I said,
Speaker 1: they both have strengths and weaknesses. I wish the other
Speaker 1: had blah blah blah. Wish they could trade some of these,
Speaker 1: but you know, such as life, but it is, it
Speaker 1: is wild.
Speaker 2: And then the motivation thing is its own. It's its
Speaker 2: own thing.
Speaker 1: And one of the things about motivation is it comes
Speaker 1: and goes. Like the the intelligence you're born with, your
Speaker 1: artistic ability you're born with.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty static thing.
Speaker 1: You can you're giving this much talent and then you
Speaker 1: can work to improve or whatever.
Speaker 2: But motivation comes and goes.
Speaker 1: For me, I've been more or less motivated at various
Speaker 1: times in my life over things, so it's not is constant.
Speaker 2: So that's so.
Speaker 1: There's environment a lot of environmental stuff with motivation, but
Speaker 1: there's obviously the motor to it. I've got a relative
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna mention because it's not supposed to be
Speaker 1: public knowledge who just got a very very major achievement
Speaker 1: in their life. It just was motivated coming out of
Speaker 1: the womb. Just that's the way they're built. Like, So,
Speaker 1: did your uncle.
Speaker 3: Bill win Rodeo Clown of the Year again? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: got one kid. I could not have made into a
Speaker 3: hard charger with a cat prod. And I got one
Speaker 3: kid I could not have stopped from being a hard
Speaker 3: charger with a cattle prod.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, that's interesting.
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Speaker 2: That's really good. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 3: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
Speaker 3: to wrap things up for the day. There he is
Speaker 3: in the control room, Mike lins Low President, but is
Speaker 3: Mike out. My career advice is just find out something
Speaker 3: that you're interested and that you enjoy.
Speaker 1: You gotta spend eight hours a day doing it, so
Speaker 1: uh make it, make it fun.
Speaker 2: There you go if you can, uh jack a final
Speaker 2: thought for us? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know Mike Rowe, he hates that hole. Do what
Speaker 1: you love the money will follow, he says. Nah, there's
Speaker 1: lots of stuff you love, ain't you gotta make no money.
Speaker 1: You gotta figure something that'll make you some money. So
Speaker 1: it is nice if you can find something you like
Speaker 1: and apply yourself to it, enjoy it. But Mike Row's
Speaker 1: big thing is, yeah, do the stuff you like in
Speaker 1: your spare time. Figure out a way to make a living.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My final thought as you figured out.
Speaker 3: Uh. Also that musical introduction I love. That's a world
Speaker 3: class falsetto. Among my favorite falsetto singers certainly the Begs
Speaker 3: from Back in the Day Mick Jagger has perhaps the
Speaker 3: greatest falsetto in the history of rock music. I recommend
Speaker 3: you pursue the to two You album and the song
Speaker 3: Worried About You. Worried About You might be my favorite
Speaker 3: all time Rolling Stone song.
Speaker 2: Oh so good.
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Speaker 1: God bless America.
Speaker 2: I'm Strong and Getty.
Speaker 3: I was taking a walk the other night and I
Speaker 3: said to my buddy, look, it's uranus, which Wow confused
Speaker 3: him briefly. Michael, it was just it was hanging there.
Speaker 2: You had to do it. I had to pick it.
Speaker 3: Uranus was hanging there like a ripe thump. That is unfortunate. No, see,
Speaker 3: that's no no, you know what. I opened the door.
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