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Speaker 1: This is every Thursday from noon to two. Appreciated by

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Speaker 1: Big four. Welcome in to the huddle with Dave Wyman,

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Speaker 1: Jake Keats, and Stacy Ross. We're getting you guys ready

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Speaker 1: for the Seahawks upcoming game against the Washington football team.

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Speaker 1: A big, big, big test for this offense versus four

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Speaker 1: months against one of the league's hottest defenses. Right now,

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Speaker 1: Washington hasn't allowed more than seventeen points from an opponent,

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Speaker 1: Dave since Week ten. What have they been doing so

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Speaker 1: exceptionally well this past month? They are really solid, tough defense.

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Speaker 1: I know what game was that. They didn't have a

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Speaker 1: each of the last three and they've won three on

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Speaker 1: the road. So but to me, it's their defense. You

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Speaker 1: look at what they're doing just flying around their linebacker

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Speaker 1: John Bostick. Of course, you know, Chase Young is really good.

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Speaker 1: And there's a guy named Cameron Curl who's a late

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Speaker 1: they just fly around. They're tough. They had a goal

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be a huge challenge. You could see

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Speaker 1: Those guys running off the field after they beat the Niners.

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Speaker 1: They just have they have something going right now. You

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Speaker 1: you know, playing your best football altogether. You feel like

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Speaker 1: to me right now. It certainly does. And Dave, I

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Speaker 1: got to really be aggressive in this game in terms

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Speaker 1: It really sets the tone for opposing offenses to kind

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Speaker 1: they have given up over one hundred yards, they've lost

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Speaker 1: that were direct defensive touchdowns, which changes, obviously the complexion

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Speaker 1: if you had Brandons yell out. The Seahawks had a

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Speaker 1: with Dave Wyman, j Keeves and Stacy Ross joining us

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at a very very crowded injury report. I

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Speaker 1: So that's where we're at, and John, I have a

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Speaker 1: hard time not believing that there's something to be said.

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Speaker 1: Is it more about how well and how great Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith has executed what they've wanted, or is it say

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Speaker 1: more about Dwayne Haskins that they're afraid to put him

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Speaker 1: in into this playoff type of matchup when there's been

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Speaker 1: a little bit of controversy of how he's handled things,

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Speaker 1: how they have handled things in his development. What does

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Speaker 1: your overall take from that situation with Dwayne Haskins. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins is a long way to go, and so yes,

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Speaker 1: I think I think they'd be reluctant to have to

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Speaker 1: go Ristins. They're reluctant. They know they're better with Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith out there with Dwayne Haskins. Again, I think they

439
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Speaker 1: know he has still a ways to go. The stuff

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Speaker 1: that they wanted to see him do, which is a

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Speaker 1: lot of preparation away from the facility, doing more things

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Speaker 1: on his own in terms of getting ready for a game,

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Speaker 1: and they sound like he's doing more of that. It's

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Speaker 1: also not something that you get better at overnight. You

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Speaker 1: don't just start doing it for a month or two

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Speaker 1: and then just the light clicks on the field. So

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Speaker 1: I think there's still a ways to go for him,

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Speaker 1: and you know, but it's not like, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: can go out there and they can certainly play and

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Speaker 1: run the offense with him. I also think that he's

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Speaker 1: a better quarterback when he can have a week to

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Speaker 1: prepare and go into the game as a starter versus

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Speaker 1: coming into a game in relief. I just think he's

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Speaker 1: better off that way. But yes, I think they much

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Speaker 1: rather have Alex Smith out there. And part of it

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Speaker 1: is it's just basic things. First of all, players respond

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Speaker 1: better to Alex Smith. They like him out there. He's

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Speaker 1: he's a natural leader for them, and even you kind

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Speaker 1: of have to look beyond the stats with him and

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Speaker 1: the little things he does, and it's it's the way

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Speaker 1: he keeps some of them with young receivers. They have

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Speaker 1: a very young receiving corps, and the way he can

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Speaker 1: help them by telling them what they need to do

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Speaker 1: on a play. That's something that's Wayne Haskins is just

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Speaker 1: not able to do yet. He's just not experienced enough

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Speaker 1: and I don't think he knows the offense that well

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Speaker 1: enough that he has that level of comfort with it.

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Speaker 1: So that's something. And then just in the huddle, his

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Speaker 1: presence will talk about that and you can see it's

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Speaker 1: play on the field and sometimes it's pretty good and

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's just like, yeah, it's you know, it's Alex Smith, right,

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Speaker 1: but it goes beyond that, and I think in this situation,

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Speaker 1: they much rather have Alex Smith out there because of

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Speaker 1: what he's gone through throughout his career, not just the injury,

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Speaker 1: but just he's seen everything, he's been through a games

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Speaker 1: like this, he knows how to handle it. He can,

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna will if they start to fall behind

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Speaker 1: a little bit. So yeah, that they definitely definitely want

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Speaker 1: to see out They definitely want to see Alex Smith

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Speaker 1: out there, and the feeling would still be that Dwayne

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Speaker 1: Hastmans has a ways to go. You're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Huddle with Dave Wyman, Ja Keeps and Stacy Ross. We're

483
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Speaker 1: getting an opponent preview of the Washington football team with

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Speaker 1: ESPN's John Kime. John, I want to talk about this

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Speaker 1: defense a bit. Just can we just talk about Chase

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Speaker 1: Young and his phenomenal season. Coming off a great game,

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Speaker 1: But what's it been like covering him this year? Well,

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Speaker 1: he's I watched him at ohiuse dates. I went to

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Speaker 1: a house dates, so I watched pretty much every game

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Speaker 1: he played. So the guy that I'm seeing now is

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Speaker 1: the guy that I saw in college. It doesn't always

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Speaker 1: transfer like that, right. I mean, we've all seen guys

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Speaker 1: have been Dryn Colleges doesn't translate to the things that

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Speaker 1: you'd hear about him from ohiose date, we're all very

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Speaker 1: good in terms of as a coach and how he

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Speaker 1: you know, the things, the extra things he does. That's

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Speaker 1: what I think has been surprising to me is that

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Speaker 1: that you are seeing that guy. You're seeing a guy

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Speaker 1: who the prep work he does and just his approach

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Speaker 1: and for little things like he would go he'll go back,

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Speaker 1: He'll start studying an opponent's tape on Monday night. Not

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Speaker 1: a lot of rookies I think are doing that. And

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Speaker 1: you know, he would go back and watch Ryan Carrigan's

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Speaker 1: game film from what he played at Perdue to see

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Speaker 1: about to just kind of gauge his development as a

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Speaker 1: pass rusher from college to the NFL. So he did

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Speaker 1: things that he can pay from that. He's always trying

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Speaker 1: to strive to learn that kind of stuff. So that's

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Speaker 1: one thing, But then the other I think the biggest

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Speaker 1: surprise to me has been the leadership qualities that he's

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Speaker 1: exhibited at twenty one years old. He is he has

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Speaker 1: become a team leader and Alex Lift is talking about

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Speaker 1: yesterday and just said we had somebody asked him like,

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Speaker 1: how unusual is that, and he said, it's crazy. He's

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Speaker 1: unusual how quick he's becoming. It's a natural evolution too.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy on the sidelines who's walking around firing

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Speaker 1: guys up. He's a guy before the games trying to

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Speaker 1: get guys fired up. But it goes beyond that because

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Speaker 1: the one thing that he doesn't do, he doesn't walk

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Speaker 1: around like he's you know, I'm the number two pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft, looked at me on Chase Young. He's

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Speaker 1: not like that. He is very much about team and

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Speaker 1: you know he'll he'll praise like guys like lyon Carrigan

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Speaker 1: up and down because it's the vet. She's ben there,

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Speaker 1: He's done it. I mean, so I think teammates gravitate

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Speaker 1: to guys like that. Plus he can play a little bit,

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Speaker 1: Yeah he could. He could certainly play, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: Um John. One of the players that has been an

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Speaker 1: absolute revelation is, Yeah, the Chase Young steals all the spotlight.

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Speaker 1: I think the front four it gets a lot of

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Speaker 1: to me is I watched the film is Safety Cameron

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Speaker 1: Curl and he wasn't new year seventh round pick. John.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you were on the same page with me,

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Speaker 1: because this guy has been outstanding, absolutely outstanding as a

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Speaker 1: rookie seventh round pick, coming in and playing like a

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Speaker 1: true pro. He and as soon as he started talking,

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Speaker 1: I just gotta be about camp Pearl because he has

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Speaker 1: been a revelation and he has been fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Not so much because he does all these glamor plays.

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Speaker 1: It's because of all the little ones he makes, and

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Speaker 1: to me, that's like, that's what jumps out. And I

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Speaker 1: say that because those little plays come from being in

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Speaker 1: the right place at the right time. And sometimes he'll

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Speaker 1: break up a play because he's in the right place

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Speaker 1: at the right time. The other day, on the Chase

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Speaker 1: Young fumble return for a touchdown, that play was a

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Speaker 1: pump fake to a tight end screen. Then it was

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Speaker 1: a pump to the tight end and there was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be a go ball down the scene to the

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Speaker 1: receiver where you need to get the intermediate safety to

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Speaker 1: bite on and start coming up as if to cover

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Speaker 1: the tight end screen right to help with that, Camp

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Speaker 1: Crow doesn't do that he stays home because he stays

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Speaker 1: home Nick Mon's camp throw. Then the pressure comes, he

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Speaker 1: gets sacked, Young picks it up and goes for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: It's a little player that doesn't show up at a

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Speaker 1: box score, but it is what he does. And there

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Speaker 1: was a play in Dallas where if you remember on

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving where Dallas has first in goal inside the five

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Speaker 1: something like that, and they try to reverse and it

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Speaker 1: was going to be a past Andy Dalton. Well they

563
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Speaker 1: couldn't throw it there. Two got one. They had a

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Speaker 1: nickel corner who came up and crushed up the receiver.

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Speaker 1: But Andy Dalton's not open because Cam Krill stayed home

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Speaker 1: on his side and he doesn't he doesn't, he didn't

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Speaker 1: fall the ball, He stayed home, did his job, took

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Speaker 1: away Andy Dalton and then the receiver gets tackled for

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Speaker 1: like an aar loss something like that. Those are the

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Speaker 1: kind of things that jump out to me. Just doing

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Speaker 1: his job. He's physical. Um he was at in at

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Speaker 1: Arkansas in the SEC. He played some corner, played safety,

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Speaker 1: so he's got he has the ability to cover some

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Speaker 1: guys in the slot. And you've seen that. You saw

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Speaker 1: that the other day. So he so when he's doing that,

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Speaker 1: he you know he can he has pretty good feet

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Speaker 1: for a safety to cover in that situation. Not you

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Speaker 1: don't want him there all the time, but it's something

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Speaker 1: he can do against the right receiver. And he but

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Speaker 1: he's very smart. So yeah, he's I think I think

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Speaker 1: he's a guy that had they had a normal draft process,

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Speaker 1: he was a seventh round pick. He probably goes in

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Speaker 1: the fourth and fifth round because I think teams would

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Speaker 1: have seen just how smart he is. John, it's a

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Speaker 1: it's not your job to make us feel better about

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks chances, but a lot of fans are really

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Speaker 1: nervous about this defense. Is there any one weakness that

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00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has a chance to exploit? Oh yeah, I

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00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: mean this defense has Every defense has holes, and they

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Speaker 1: they you know, you can you can run a little

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Speaker 1: bit on them at times. I mean they've definitely now

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Speaker 1: they've been getting better. But the Niners, now, the Niners

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Speaker 1: have a really good run scheme, so I think that

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Speaker 1: contributed to it. But there have been games where they've

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Speaker 1: been teams have been able to run on them a

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Speaker 1: little bit um. And then the other thing is the

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Speaker 1: deep ball, the big play they have allowed seven pass

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Speaker 1: players for fifty yards in war and then if you're

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Speaker 1: still if you're facebook team that has Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, that's a concern to me. So you know,

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Speaker 1: the linebackers have been playing better, I still think their vulnerable,

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Speaker 1: especially to play action and I know Russell Wilson likes

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Speaker 1: you know, they like to run a lot of that,

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Speaker 1: So that to me is an area they can that

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Speaker 1: they can exploit too. So it is a good defense.

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Speaker 1: It's a very good defense there. And I will say

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Speaker 1: they aren't getting better too. Um, you know, they kind

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Speaker 1: of feasted on some mediocre offenses and quarterbacks. But I

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Speaker 1: do think that they're playing well, but they are they

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Speaker 1: do have holes. It's they're not perfect. So yes, I

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Speaker 1: think that, you know, if you're Seattle with Carson in there,

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Speaker 1: you can do some things maybe, But also DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: how do they defend him. I mean the teams have

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Speaker 1: been going zone, but they've had some breaks in there,

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Speaker 1: especially if you can I think the one area you

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Speaker 1: know that with the linebackers too, is they will get

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Speaker 1: sucked up hard against two games and then you can

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Speaker 1: exploit that middle of the field, all right, He is

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Speaker 1: ESPN reporter John Kime. You can read his work anytime

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Speaker 1: ESPN dot com and Seahawks fans listen. If you're like me,

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Speaker 1: you like to prep for a game with some podcasts,

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Speaker 1: so you can also take a listen to John's pod.

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Speaker 1: It's called the John Kime Report, and it's a really

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Speaker 1: good one, so go check it out. Thanks so much, John,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. All Right, we've been talking about how important

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Speaker 1: this offensive line is going to be against Washington. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into that when we go in the trenches with

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Speaker 1: Ray Roberts. Next on the Huddle. This is the Huddle

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Speaker 1: apprecented by Bickford Ford every Thursday from noon to two

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Speaker 1: on seven ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome back into the Huddle

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Speaker 1: with Dave Wyman, Jake Keats, and Stacy Ross joining us

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Speaker 1: right now as we go in the trenches is Ray Roberts,

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Speaker 1: former offensive lineman and host of the Seahawks pre and

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Speaker 1: postgame show. Hey Ray, Hey, what's up now? What happened

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Speaker 1: to my introm music? Curtis, We've played it last week.

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Speaker 1: Didn't get the didn't get the pop we on It

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Speaker 1: gives me that, It gives me the juice to get ready.

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Speaker 1: Man it's like, you know, popping the bottles like you're

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Speaker 1: ready to party. You ready to do your thing. Ray,

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Speaker 1: you've seen the thing uh that NASA puts together by

641
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Speaker 1: O J. Man. Bring your own juice. Okay, I'm gonna

642
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: bring my own J Curtis, play this one. Play this yeah. Okay,

643
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: So Ray, we have been talking, uh not surprisingly here.

644
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna be doing it all morning and

645
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: evening after the game on Sunday about this Washington defensive line.

646
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: Who becomes the most important guy on this offensive line.

647
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: I know it's as a team, but who's really got

648
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: a lot on his shoulders this Sunday. Well, obviously whoever

649
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: is playing right tackle. I think if you know Dwayne Brown,

650
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: you know it's going to be a challenge for whoever

651
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: they put across from him too. So it's not that,

652
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, Chase Young or Montes Sweat or any of

653
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: those guys are just going to come over then and

654
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: run rampant around him. But whoever they put on the

655
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: other edge, whether it's Shale if he's able to or

656
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: the backups if they're able to get in there, and

657
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: if they're and I think they're gonna have to put

658
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: a running back over there to help, or maybe put

659
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: a tight end over there to help. But I think

660
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 1: that whoever plays the right edge is gonna be the

661
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: most important player the right tackle. This will kind of

662
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: keeps some of that pressure off of Russell. The thing

663
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: about them is there the defensive front reminds me of

664
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: of of the Giants in a bid or Philadelphia, and

665
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: that they can get pressure with just four guys and

666
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: so they don't have to bring a whole lot of

667
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: blitz packages and things. So it's gonna make throwing the

668
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: ball a little bit more difficult. I think if there's

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00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: a if there's a place to make some hay though,

670
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: is in the running game, because you know, lastly the

671
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Jets were supposedly, you know, number three in the league

672
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: and average rush per carry three point eight yards, and

673
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: right now the Reskins are given up four point one

674
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: yards to carry. So I think there's some some yards

675
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: to be made there and an opportunity to keep the

676
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: offense ahead of the change. I thought you I was

677
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: thinking about you, Ray after last week you brought your

678
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: some Jews. Maybe it was because of the intro music,

679
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: but we were talking a lot about the run game

680
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: and at halftime, and I know you were doing the

681
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: update ninety seven yards. Man, you must have been happy

682
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: with the sort of the mix offensively last week. Yeah,

683
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Speaker 1: And you know, Dave, like you know, you and I

684
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: have coached together and for the most part, you know,

685
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: when we're on offense, every time we started a game,

686
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna run a dive play. I'm gonna put the

687
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: fullback on the middle linebacker, we're gonna man up all

688
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: the different offensive defensive linement. We're just gonna see who

689
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: wants it the most. And to me, you know that

690
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: took this kind of makes a statement, and so I'm

691
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: not you know, when I talk about the run game,

692
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: it's not like, hey, let's go run the ball forty

693
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: times and throw at fifteen. It's just like exactly what

694
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: you just said. It's a it's a combination of the

695
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: run and the pass and the mix. Like that first

696
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: drive down the field was beautiful. It's the way they

697
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: use short passes, intermediate passes, the run game, the mix

698
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: of it. They ran the ball twice in a row

699
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: like like that type of stuff. It was just it

700
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: was it was really beautiful football. And to me, that's

701
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to be played. I don't know that.

702
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: To me, football is a supposed to be one side heavy,

703
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: like we're gonna just run this thing all the time,

704
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna slow it all the time. It has to

705
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: be a combination of both of those things. And they

706
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: did such a great job. I mean, I was super excited,

707
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: Like I did post a those thing about tiers of joy,

708
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: like I've really had to joy, Like I was in

709
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: I was in the in the in the I had

710
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: to go for a walk, just kind of walk off

711
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: some of the energy because I just love the way

712
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: they were using the run game in combination with the

713
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: past game to make that defense defend the entire field. Now, Ray,

714
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: going into this game, when you talk about these these

715
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Speaker 1: front four front seven four h Washington, what is the

716
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: best way to slow this down? What is the best

717
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: way to slow those guys down to allow Russell Wilson

718
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: in this passing attack to get to what they do best. Um,

719
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: what do you think they need to do? Well? The

720
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: one thing I'll think about, Jake is when we had

721
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: um no uh, Michael Bennett and and all the guys

722
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: that were like really getting out to the quarterback and

723
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: we went to play the Tennessee Titans, and they had

724
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, and they did such a good job with

725
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: Mariota getting the ball out of his hand quickly. So screens,

726
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: those flare passes, you know, smoke screens to the running back,

727
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: I mean to the receivers, uh, the little uh swing

728
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: routes to the running backs, quick slants, those intermediate routes

729
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: where he wasn't sitting back there holding the ball allowing

730
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: the pass us to get to him. And I will say,

731
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: as a fan watching that game, it was frustrating because

732
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: you wanted our defense to be able to cut loose

733
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: and get after him a while, but they couldn't. And

734
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: you can see that they were getting frustrated that they

735
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: couldn't get to the quarterback as well. And so I

736
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: think that type of game plan going against these guys

737
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: is the way to go about it. So, first of all,

738
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: I think, you know, running the ball, because they do

739
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: give up four yards to carry uh, you know, rushing

740
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: the ball, and so really making them have to, like

741
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: I said a couple of weeks ago, they have to

742
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: earn the right to rush the quarterback. So if you

743
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: can stop us from running the ball, if you can

744
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: stop us from completing these short intermediate passes and keeping

745
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: a change moving. Then you get the right to rush

746
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: us on third and long situations or are putting us

747
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: in a situation we have to have to throw the

748
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 1: ball and you get to then do the pass rush.

749
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: We can't just give it to them and just say like, hey,

750
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna just drop back and throw it twenty five

751
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: times thirty times and just let you do what you

752
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: want to do. We have to do something that makes

753
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: them earn it. And if they have to earn it,

754
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: I have all the confidence in our offense offensive ability

755
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: to run the ball and to use that type of

756
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: passing attack and then taking your shots when they're there

757
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: to keep this this defensive front off balance. I know

758
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: you're an expert on the offensive line and on the

759
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: offense in general, but obviously you cover this team all

760
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: the time, and so I do want to just quickly

761
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: talk about the defense. Have you seen anything from Washington

762
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: on offense that you really fear and what do you

763
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: think the Seahawks defense needs to do in this game? Early? Well,

764
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean it depends on who's starting at quarterback. You know,

765
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: Alex Smith has always been kind of dink and dunk

766
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: kind of a type of player, and he's one of

767
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: It reminds me of things Kase Kennon when he played

768
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: for the Rams, and he would just do the dinkin

769
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: dunk all the way down the field. But the key

770
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: with him was that he was patient enough with it.

771
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: He never got impatient to where it then he wanted

772
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: to take a shot or take a chance with the

773
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: ball and throw an interception. I think that allowed them

774
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: to always be competitive against the Seahawks and have opportunities

775
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: to beat him. And I think that I think that

776
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: Alex Smith is the same way, is that he can

777
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: be patient with the little binking and dunking down the field,

778
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: which then can you know, this defense gives up that

779
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: that type of play and hopes that you're going to

780
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: make a mistake or that you can't sustain that for

781
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: seventy yards down the field, and so I think, you know,

782
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: really uh, finding a way to disrupt that in their game,

783
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not I'm not fearful of their

784
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: rushing attack. I'm just fearful of their patience on offense

785
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: and then the way they can shorten the feel for

786
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: them on defense, and then you know, speaking of just

787
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: covering the team. I just wanted to get this in

788
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: before because the trenches also include our defensive trenches, and

789
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: I just want to give a shout out to Racine Green.

790
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: His stats and when you look at it may not

791
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: pop off the screen, but there are there are a

792
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: lot of guys on the defensive line that have gotten

793
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: sacked because of the pressure that he's created. He just

794
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to finish some of his pass rushes.

795
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: And then in the run game, he's playing very good,

796
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: solid defense in the run game. And so a lot

797
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: of people haven't you seen or heard his name a lot,

798
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: but if you watch the film, the guy is having

799
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: a good year for a dude that missed, you know,

800
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: pretty much all of last year and then came to

801
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: this season kind of late too, And so I would

802
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: expect for him. He's always been a dude that can

803
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: get around the ball and make things happen from time

804
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: to time, and I would I would look for in

805
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: the next few games or into the playoffs for him

806
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: to make a couple of big plays that are that

807
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: are really beneficial for the football teams. Man. That's a

808
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: great point, right, he is Ray Roberts. You can hear

809
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: him on the Huddle every single Thursday on seven ESPN

810
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: Seattle for his in the Trenches segment. You can also

811
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: hear him on the Seahawks pre and postgame show that

812
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: includes the game against the Washington football team this weekend.

813
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: Thanks Ray, Yeah, thanking, I'm bringing my own dam do it?

814
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: Do it? Have that hit going? As I'm going into

815
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: the segment, We'll get you outtro music too, so you

816
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: can make sure to like, uh kind of buoy it

817
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: on either side. Make sure you have the best sound.

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00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:23,479
Speaker 1: All right, thanks May Ray needs his own DJing. Someone

819
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: else walks into the control room. Sorry, Curtis, move over.

820
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: I came here with Ray, all right. Means I can

821
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: go home early? That's fine. No, no, it doesn't. In fact,

822
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: we're staying here. Thanks so much to Ray Roberts. Again.

823
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: You can hear him on the Seahawks pre and postgame

824
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: show this weekend. We are going to be joined by

825
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: a Seahawks guest. Running back Carlos Hide will join us next.

826
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: We're also going to take a listen to what head

827
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: coach of the Washington football team, Ron Rivera has to

828
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: say about the Seahawks. That's next. Every Thursday, from noon

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Speaker 1: to two appreciated by Big Fruit four. Welcome back to

830
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps, and Stacy Ross.

831
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Speaker 1: We're getting you guys ready for the Seahawks upcoming game

832
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: against the Washington football team. We've all agreed the run game.

833
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: It was nice to see it against the Jets, and

834
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: we're hoping to see it. I'm assuming against Washington. There

835
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: aren't a lot of weaknesses on this defense. One area, Dave,

836
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: where they do I don't. They don't even fall out

837
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: of the top ten. But I considered, considering that they're

838
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: so great against the past, one area they aren't as

839
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: good in is their run defense. Is that an opportunity

840
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: there for Seattle? Well? Yeah, I just think regardless of

841
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: whether they're good at that or not, that if you're

842
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: going to run the ball, it's about you. It's about

843
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: it's about your offense. So, for example, last week, there

844
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: was lots of people I know texting in our show

845
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: why would you pound your head against the wall? The

846
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: Jets are as Ray said, what number three in average

847
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: per carry against the run their defense was? It was,

848
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: and then they were ranked eleventh overall average per game.

849
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Speaker 1: It was the only thing they did well, and so

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00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: you know, the thought was, well, they have the number

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00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: thirty two past defense or thirty one, why don't we

852
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Speaker 1: throw against them. But you go in and you're gonna

853
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Speaker 1: do what you're gonna do. And again my producer Maura

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Speaker 1: brought this up. The Giants didn't think that when they

855
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Speaker 1: came into Seattle. I mean, the Seahawks were number three

856
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Speaker 1: against the run and they were holding it to eighty

857
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Speaker 1: nine yards and they came in and ran for what

858
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Speaker 1: one eighty one sixty five something like that. So I mean,

859
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Speaker 1: you do what you want, what you want to do.

860
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Speaker 1: I mean, if your your plan is, look, we're gonna

861
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: go right at these guys, then yeah, and then once

862
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Speaker 1: they get that done. I just loved the flow Jake

863
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: of what they did last week. And it gets Will

864
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 1: distially involved, it gets you know, play action pass. I thought,

865
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Speaker 1: you know, after the game, my my Rose. We give

866
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: about roses and thorns every week, and the roses went

867
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Speaker 1: to Chris Carson and Will Disiley because Will Disiley had

868
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Speaker 1: a really good day blocking. He's a good blocker. So

869
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about helping out, if it

870
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: is Chad we if you're you know, you want to

871
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: put maybe Will Display over there and help out with

872
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: the pass blocking. That'll really do well. But he's a

873
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: really good run blocker as well. It's a great point

874
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Speaker 1: because when you talk about what they did versus the Jets,

875
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: they did a great job of mixing. They did a

876
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: great job of not staying to one thing, whether it

877
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: was quick passes or passes putting the ball in Russell

878
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: Wilson's hands to throw. They didn't. They didn't get stubborn

879
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: with the run game. They were not just one thing

880
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: versus the Jets. And I believe that that's what's made

881
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 1: them so successful as an offense. It's consistently allowing themselves

882
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: to get one step ahead of the defense, allowing them

883
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: to keep the defense on their heels. But I do

884
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: agree that they'll have to get a little bit stubborn

885
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: in the run game to really open things up along.

886
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: And that's the balance, and that's the difficulty of an

887
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators is finding the right mix, but yet knowing

888
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: what you have to do to get this offense fully

889
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: opened up. You have to get the run game going

890
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: in order for you to change some of their coverages

891
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: that they like to run in order to take some

892
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: of that aggressiveness out of that front flour that just

893
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: wants to, you know, really pin their ears back and

894
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: get after the passer. There's certain things that they have

895
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: to get accomplished. But I want to make sure that

896
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: when you're talking about Brian Schottenheimer in this offense, that

897
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: people don't think that they're just going to sit there

898
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: and run the ball and first and sec it down

899
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: every single drive, every single series. I don't think that's

900
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: that's it at all, but it's about how effective they

901
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: can get it going. Early on, you're listening to the

902
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps and Stacy Ross. Seahawks

903
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: practice is wrapping up right now. We're gonna grab running

904
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: back Carlos Hide on his way off the field before

905
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Speaker 1: we bring him on. Let's look at how the carries

906
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: are being split between Carson and Hide. When I look

907
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Speaker 1: back at where the Seahawks were this stage in the

908
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: season last year, I have no problem with them splitting

909
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: up the carries. I know Chris Carson isn't happy to

910
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: be not having a one hundred yard rush day on

911
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: his resume from this season, especially in a career year,

912
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that Carlos Hyde feels the same way.

913
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Speaker 1: Quite honestly, he's capable of doing that too, considering where

914
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: they were with their running back depth last year. Though.

915
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Speaker 1: You guys and Dave, I'll start with you, I don't

916
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: mind it all of them splitting carries. Yeah. The only

917
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: thing is I would say, and we were talking about this,

918
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: when they get Rashad pennyback. You know, there's three, there's

919
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: a and, and they'll work it out. But I mean

920
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: there's a case to be made for running backs getting

921
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: into a flow. I mean, I think for running backs

922
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: you kind of set up defenders and you set up

923
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: linebackers a little bit, and so it's kind of like

924
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. You know, you have a repertoire of

925
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: moves that you you're gonna bowl rush. I would do

926
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Speaker 1: it as a linebacker, you know, I would. I would

927
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Speaker 1: come up and hit the guard as hard as I

928
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: could on the first play, maybe the second play, and

929
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Speaker 1: then the third play maybe just slip him underneath, you know,

930
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: put a move on him. You know. It's the same

931
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: sort of concept on the offensive side. So I mean,

932
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Speaker 1: you don't want to split them up so much that

933
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Speaker 1: they don't get into that flow. But you know, because

934
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: you do, you kind of set guys up, and especially

935
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Speaker 1: Carson because I mean he he more than anybody defenders.

936
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Speaker 1: He's got to be so difficult. I mean, I knew

937
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: that Christian Aquoia was going to try to run me

938
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Speaker 1: over every play. You don't know that with Carson. He'll

939
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: jump over you, he'll you know, go under you. He

940
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: can you know, beat you to the edge. He's got

941
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: great speed, So yeah, it might be uh, he almost

942
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: might have too much there. I think that's something that

943
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: they might want to, you know, make sure that they

944
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Speaker 1: take care of. I mean, if you have, you know,

945
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: thirty carries and you give Rashad and Carlos and Chris

946
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: all ten each, maybe that works out, but maybe it doesn't.

947
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's nice knowing that you don't have to

948
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: give Carson the ball thirty times like they did a

949
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: couple of years ago and then he missed a game afterwards. Yeah,

950
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the really critical part. And it's the

951
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: tough thing to manage Dave and Stacy because you don't

952
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: want to go into the playoffs without Chris. Carson that's

953
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: priority number one flashback and so if all else fails,

954
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: you know, that you've got. I mean, look, crazier things

955
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: have happened, but there's a ninety nine percent chance there's

956
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: a one percent chance that they don't make the playoffs.

957
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: So you know you've got a tremendous chance to make

958
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You want to see him healthy. But over

959
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: the next two weeks in particular, you're gonna Ideally, you

960
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: would love to be able to confidently say we are

961
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: going to turn Carson loose, We're gonna give him more

962
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: of a workload and not worry about those injuries. But unfortunately,

963
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: that is something that I think this coaching staff has

964
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Speaker 1: in the back of their mind. All Right, we're gonna

965
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Speaker 1: be getting Carlos Hide coming off the field right now.

966
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Speaker 1: Do not go anywhere. We'll bring them on next on

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Speaker 1: the Huddle. This is the Huddle apprecent it by Big

968
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: foot Ford every Thursday from noon to two on seven

969
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome back into the Huddle with Dave Wyman,

970
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: Jay Keeps and Stacy Ross joining us right now. You're

971
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Speaker 1: Seahawks running back Carlos Hide sixty six yards on fifteen

972
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Speaker 1: carries last week and a win over the Jets, a

973
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: phenomenal perform. It's from the rushing team. But Carlos, I

974
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: am positive that as a running back, you guys want

975
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: the rock as much as you can get it. I'm

976
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: sure you want to come out running even more in

977
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: this game against Washington. Um. Yeah, you know, I think

978
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: it's just me, you know, being a running back. I

979
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: always want to run a ball no matter what, and

980
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: just being a running back. But we definitely want to

981
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: get our run game going. Um. Washington got a really

982
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: good uh front, so UM, it would definitely be huge

983
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: for us this week to get our run game going. Carlos,

984
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: do you as a game goes on, do you kind

985
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: of set up tacklers or you know, do you get

986
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: into a flow? I mean you want to get you

987
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, carry the ball forty times

988
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: and get worn down. But is there a kind of

989
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: a sweet spot or a magic number of number of

990
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: carries for you or do you just take what you get? Um?

991
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: I think I think five carries is enough. I think

992
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: if you know five carries, you should be able to

993
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: get that groove or and should baby to hit a homer,

994
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: hit a big run in those five carries. Um, just

995
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: more about just being on just being on point, uh,

996
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: just being ready to execute, paying attention to your read,

997
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: to your reads, and hitting a big hitting a big play,

998
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: I say, five carries. Though, Carlos, this has been an

999
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: interesting transition for you, just as you've gone, uh, you know,

1000
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: to a couple of different places now, going from Houston,

1001
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: having a very successful season there, now coming into Seattle.

1002
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: What has this experience been like for you? You've, guys,

1003
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: have gone through the ups and downs, and you've been

1004
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: through this league. I've been in this league for a

1005
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: long time and you've been through those ups and downs

1006
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: with various organizations, enfranchises. What's your experience been like here?

1007
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: Has it been any different in terms of the way

1008
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: this coaching staff and play and the players handle it? Um? Well,

1009
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean one thing I noticed here. You know, nobody

1010
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: pressures a penning by you know, even after them you

1011
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: know some games, Um, nobody press depending but in the

1012
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: same energy. Um. You know since day one here. Um,

1013
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: that's through the coaches, through the players. Um, I mean

1014
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: throw them through through the whole bility. You know, winn

1015
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: and lose, you know, everybody stays the same. Um. But um,

1016
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: you know we've been on the right track, you know,

1017
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: trying to play games together. Um, you got a good,

1018
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: good opponent coming up this week that, Uh, that would

1019
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: be a really good test for us to see where

1020
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: we are. Um. So we got good matchups coming up,

1021
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: the finishing zero. Um, but I think you know the

1022
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: way we handle situations here. Um, it's the best places

1023
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: I've been, you know, when they come to adversity. Carlos,

1024
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: you've got a pretty unique Twitter handle. Uh, el Guappo.

1025
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: Where did that come from? A Guappo came from eleven Warriors? Okay? Um,

1026
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: so so they cover they cover a hollow state football

1027
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: out of the Columbus. Um. They gave him when I

1028
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: was in college, they give him. You know, a couple

1029
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: of guys nicknames, and my nickname was Guappo at the time.

1030
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: At the time, I didn't know what it meant. So

1031
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: I had to go do my research and I found

1032
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: out what it meant. And I was like, Hey, this steak,

1033
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: you know my name Carlos Guappo. I mean, this is

1034
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: a Spanish connection right here. It's a great nickname. Yeah,

1035
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: it's great though. Hey, Carlos, tell us about some of

1036
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: your teammates. Uh. I've always loved Chris Carson's personality. I

1037
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: remember he said that he didn't ever want to spend

1038
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: too much money on a car. I asked him a

1039
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: kind of car. He dragies it's like a rental car.

1040
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: You know, he always seems very laid back. The boy

1041
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: sure is fearsome on the field. Tell us about him

1042
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: or some of the personalities in your running back room. M. Yeah, Chris,

1043
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: Chris is definitely a laid back dude. That's funny you

1044
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: mentioned about the car because I was uh mentioned the

1045
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: card to him and he actually said that the same thing,

1046
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: that he wasn't trying to spend that much on a car.

1047
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: And you know that's a good mindset to Hi though

1048
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: his money a lasts a long time, you know, keep

1049
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: that mindset. Um. The rest of the guys, um all

1050
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: it's a good group of guys. Um. We all bringing

1051
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: our our own different style of running to the game,

1052
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: our own different our own different style of play to

1053
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: the game. Um. But you know it's a great group. Um.

1054
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: Guys have fun and you know, guys cheer each other

1055
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: on and m guys are hot before each other. You know,

1056
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: when success come, you know, one of our ways. So

1057
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: it's a good type group. Carlos, want to get your

1058
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: perspective on the college football season obviously, Uh, you know,

1059
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: being a High State buck guy, got a lot of

1060
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: pride in that, and they've only been able to play

1061
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Speaker 1: five games this year. Can you imagine being in that

1062
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: position being a college football player under these circumstances? Um,

1063
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: you know you you're experiencing it as an NFL player.

1064
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: Obviously very different at that level, but um, you know

1065
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: could Uh how how do you think you'd be dealing

1066
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: with that situation at the college level? Um? Well, right now,

1067
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: I'll probably be happy because they let a hard State

1068
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten championships. So I probably would be

1069
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: happy right now because, um, they give they gives a

1070
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: Hard State opportunity to go play in the college football players.

1071
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: They're still having that right Yeah, still still plans to

1072
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: have that all right, So well, a Hall State has

1073
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: a chance to go win at all. So hey, I'm

1074
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: sure my guys are happy that they get they got

1075
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: the chance. I feel bad for you know, other guys

1076
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: who who who isn't as fortunate, Other teams that's not

1077
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: fortunate to be able to you know, continue on with

1078
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: the season. Whoever cut short due to COVID. Uh, just

1079
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: very unfortunate. Um, I mean, the next thing you can

1080
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: do is if if it's your last year, is just

1081
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: get ready, you know, for the NFL and hope for

1082
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: the best. There are a lot of Ohio State guys

1083
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: in the league, clearly from that program. Um. Now, you

1084
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: and Chase Young are not the same age, um, different classes,

1085
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: But do you know him at all off the field

1086
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: just being from the same personally personally? You know, I

1087
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: never I never met Chase. I never met him. I've

1088
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: always you know, I watched I watched all the Ohow

1089
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: State games, so I know him as a player. Um,

1090
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: but personally I have I haven't met Chase. You know.

1091
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: I introduced myself to him when I see him on Sunday,

1092
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: definitely State brother, right there? Are you waiting until after

1093
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: or are you gonna do like some mind games going

1094
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: up to him before and just be like, hey, watch

1095
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: out for me. I usually I usually talk, you know,

1096
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: like especially on defense, if there's a guy like you

1097
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: know defense that you know went to college with me,

1098
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, I usually say what's up?

1099
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: You know while we out on the field. You know. Yeah,

1100
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, by introduce yourself to him, you

1101
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: mean stiff arm him right, Well, that's just what I

1102
00:53:54,560 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: like to do. I don't think I ever seen a

1103
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: body stiff for him. Carlos don't do that. Yeah, but

1104
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: you'll be Yeah, that'll be huge if you get that done.

1105
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: Hey tell me, I heard from Postic he thinks that

1106
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: Nick Balore is by far the funniest guy on the team.

1107
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: Ethan Posa told me that, who do you think is

1108
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: Carlos or is it you? Na? I had to I

1109
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: had to agree with eth Nick is definitely one of

1110
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: the funniest guys on the team. Um, yeah, he's in

1111
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: He's in a running back room too though, right, so

1112
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: he always brings he always got some funny joke. Uh.

1113
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: But um, you know what's good though, you know, because

1114
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: you know it's moments where you know a laugh is needed.

1115
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: And uh, Nick is that guy how he comes in?

1116
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: Uh speaking about laughs, I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure

1117
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: it's it's great in there. But you know, you've got

1118
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: a running back coach at Chad Morton, who I know

1119
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: very well, who is as energetic as it gets on

1120
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: on that staff with a staff full of energetic guys.

1121
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: What has it been like working with him? And and uh,

1122
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: what's his effects? Been like in that room. Yeah, you're right, cha,

1123
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: Chad got all the energy, um, trying to beat you

1124
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: from drill to drill all that. Man. I'm sure you

1125
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 1: dreams about five red boys and three coffees in the morning.

1126
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: Vote you get here and sother because it's crazy how

1127
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: much energy somebody can have it in the morning. Um.

1128
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: But Chad's a good guy though. He's been very helpful

1129
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: for the running backs, just keeping us detail, keeping us

1130
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: prepare for you know each week, um, and just having us,

1131
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 1: having us ready to go on Sundays. He's been great

1132
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: for us really really. Last question, uh here, how how

1133
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 1: are you feeling health wise? You've been on and off

1134
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: the injury report and uh, thankfully you were in last week,

1135
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: had a great game last week. But how's the toe feeling?

1136
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: How's the body feeling? I feel good? Yeah, I feel

1137
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: real good. To to toe feels like you held up

1138
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: all the way. Um. You know that was my issue,

1139
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: that was my big issue, and I mean I feel

1140
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: great honestly. All right, all right, well, thank you so

1141
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: much for joining us, Carlos. We really really appreciate the time.

1142
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: Best to luck this weekend. Okay, all right, thank you

1143
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: for having me all right, that was Seahawks running back

1144
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: Carlos Hide. Now we've been talking about Carlos I don't

1145
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: want to jump away from him too much because this

1146
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: run game, like you said, Jake is gonna and Dave

1147
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: is going to really really matter against Washington. We very briefly, though,

1148
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: touched on Rashad Penny before bringing Carlos on. What are

1149
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: our expectations for Penny when he comes back? It could

1150
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: happen as soon as this weekend. We aren't going to

1151
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: hear really a final update about that from Carol. Maybe

1152
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: his interview with Dave Wyman airing tomorrow, maybe it's his

1153
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: press conference, or maybe it's game day, but there is

1154
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: a chance we could see him here soon. Dave, what

1155
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: are your expectations? Well, Rashad, I guess I don't really know.

1156
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: You know what kind of guy he is as far

1157
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: as coming off at injuries, Like some guys, it takes

1158
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: a while to get going. We talk about getting in

1159
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: a flow and Carlos Hides it just takes him five carries,

1160
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: which you know, he's one of those guys that he

1161
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: can get out there and you know, probably coming off

1162
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: ir he'll you know, he looked as good as he

1163
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: did going onto IR. So, you know, I don't know

1164
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: if Penny's that kind of guy. I just know that

1165
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: he was up to a point where he really was

1166
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: looking good when he hurt his knee. So I know

1167
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: his rookie year, he it wasn't because he you know,

1168
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: his finger, the finger itself. It's because he missed a

1169
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: bunch of time and it took him a while to

1170
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: get going. So I guess I don't want to say

1171
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: I don't expect much from him because that makes it

1172
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 1: sound like I don't think he's a good player. But yeah,

1173
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: but I think it is yeah for him. He may

1174
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: not be one of those guys that it might take

1175
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: him a couple of games to get going. So but

1176
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: I sure him looking forward to seeing him get back

1177
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: on the field. Well I'm excited to see him back

1178
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: on the field as well. And that's the thing is

1179
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: when we talk about this mix, how do you properly

1180
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: mix him in. It's gotta be step by step. You

1181
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:04,959
Speaker 1: can't just unveil him immediately the first game he comes back.

1182
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: And to me, this is about trying to set him

1183
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: up for success, set him up for the runs that

1184
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, having him in your program over the last

1185
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: couple of years what he does best and allow him

1186
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: to get some positive runs. And as he builds some

1187
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: of that confidence and is able to feel more and

1188
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: more comfortable with playing in a game and with his

1189
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: leg and the ACL and all that, I think that

1190
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: that's where you can start adding more of the workload.

1191
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: From Bob Condoda of the Seattle Times. By the way,

1192
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: Seahawks offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer speaking with reporters right now,

1193
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: he says, Rashad Penny has looked great in practice this week,

1194
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: could be activated for Sunday, Jake. We have about a

1195
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: minute here. What are the ways that they can use

1196
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: Because you've talked before about Rashad Penny specifically as a

1197
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: pass catcher. Does he have that strength over the other

1198
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: running backs? Is that an area where he kind of

1199
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: excels well. I think quietly that Chris Carson is better

1200
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: in that area than some people may give him at

1201
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: it four. But Rashad Penny has come up with some

1202
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: big catches over the years, and he had a big

1203
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: catch in the first Rams game if you could remember

1204
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: at the time in Century Link Field, where he was

1205
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: able to run a slugo. He catches the ball deep

1206
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: down the field. He was great in the screen game.

1207
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: He was really developing himself before he turned tore his acl.

1208
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: He was running the ball well, guys. But what he

1209
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: was also doing was he was a factor in the

1210
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: screen game and had a couple of really good positive

1211
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: catches and runs from the screen game. So I think

1212
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: that that's another area that you can get him involved in.

1213
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: All right, Dave, I need you to be nice because

1214
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. Okay, your broadcast

1215
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: partner is joining us next. Say anything. Okay, Dave, I

1216
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: have my eye on you because I don't believe you.

1217
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: Steve Rabel joins us next. This is the Huddle, presented

1218
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: by big Foot four every Thursday from noon to two

1219
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: on seven ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome back to the Huddle

1220
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: with Dave Wyman, JK Since Stacy Ross joining us right

1221
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: now at Seahawks play by play man Steve Rabel raves

1222
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good? Say how are you? I'm good?

1223
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm good. I told Dave to be nice to you today.

1224
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: All right, Well that'll be a first, but I'll look

1225
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: forward to I don't think it'll hold up. She wants

1226
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: to hear about that that really funny joke you made

1227
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: that had to do with track and field and the decathlon.

1228
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what it was now. There was

1229
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: a guy with the first named Javelon. Oh yeah, it

1230
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: was Javelin somebody. Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty stupid. That

1231
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: was really funny. It was great. It was a dad joke.

1232
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: It was a dad joke. It was definitely And I'm

1233
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: not even a dad, and I tend to think that

1234
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: way sometimes. But that's one of the good things about

1235
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: being old and now kind of you know, when your

1236
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: mind starts to go things like that. Well, it was

1237
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: something along the lines of javelin Smith or whatever. And

1238
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure his brother, his brother's shot put is at

1239
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: home watching. Yeah, and then and then a sister hurdle,

1240
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: and we just gone down a lot. You need to

1241
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: be more proud of that than you are, Raves, Ye much,

1242
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: I'll do that next time. At least they didn't use

1243
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: any curse words. Hey, we've been looking ahead to the

1244
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: Washington football team h during the huddle, but just while

1245
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: we have you on, I want to take one second,

1246
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: one quick question to look back at the win over

1247
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 1: the Jets. I think one of the biggest critiques given

1248
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: toward the Seahawks, despite it being a blowout win, was well,

1249
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: what can you take in a win over the Jets?

1250
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: But what did you honestly take from that game? Well,

1251
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, as as we've often talked about, you know,

1252
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: you have to beat the teams you're supposed to beat,

1253
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: and Dave and I and without you know, making it

1254
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: sound too too awful, but it's kind of the vernacular

1255
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: of the of the game, and that is when you

1256
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: get your you know, when you get somebody down, you

1257
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: put your foot on the back of their neck and

1258
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: you hold them down. Now that's I know that sounds

1259
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: pretty terrible sometimes a lot of people, but that's that's

1260
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: what we mean when when football players and just come

1261
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: to talk about a team that you're supposed to beat.

1262
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: So in that respect, they did all the things that

1263
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: they needed to do. They played well, they protected the football,

1264
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: they made plays on defense, a lot of plays. Um,

1265
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 1: you know, I nothing much I could complain about about

1266
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: that game. Russell moved the ball around, spread it out,

1267
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: gave a couple of the running backs a chance to

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Speaker 1: to get some yards without building, you know, without putting

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01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: too much on Chris Carson's back. I just thought it

1270
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: was it was the kind of game they needed to

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01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: play in getting ready for this final stretch run. Two

1272
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: against NFC West Division opponents and one against a football

1273
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: team that's getting better by the week, it seems in

1274
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: the Washington Football Club rabes. This kind of breaks down

1275
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: pretty clearly for people. The jump ball with kJ Wright

1276
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: and Puna Ford, who in your mind has the right

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01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 1: of way there? Well, you know, if Puna had known

1278
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: that kJ was right there, I'm giving kJ the opportunity

1279
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: because kJ is what six five six six, I mean,

1280
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: he can reach up and snatch that ball with one hand.

1281
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: We've seen him do it. Poona, you know, had to

1282
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: climb on an orange crate to get up there, but

1283
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: he did get a little lift. And you know, you

1284
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: can't argue it's unlike baseball. You don't have time to

1285
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: call somebody off in the outfield and say me, me, me,

1286
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: it's that's not the way it works in football. And

1287
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: when you're hustling, you're going after every loose ball or

1288
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: every or every tipped ball that's out there. So I

1289
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: credit both of them. It's unfortunate that one of them

1290
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: couldn't pull it down. But you know, when you look

1291
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: back at that game, what we had chances to pick

1292
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: three passes I think, and two of them hit guys

1293
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: in the chest, including Jamal, and they weren't able to

1294
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: hang on. So you know, it could have been a

1295
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: bigger spread than it actually was. Now you said, who

1296
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: has the right away? But who'd you want to see

1297
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: catch that ball? Rage? Because I would have loved to

1298
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: have seen former running back poona four carry. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1299
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: And it would have been great for him. I know,

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01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: I know, um, But you know, I'm I'm as I

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01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: mentioned before, I'm an old guy, so I like the

1302
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: old guys. I like I like watching veterans do what

1303
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: veterans do and make big plays. And and I just

1304
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: I can't tell you. I mean, you know, Puta ford

1305
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: Is is a great young football player. He's got a

1306
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: wonderful career ahead of him. K J. Wright I think

1307
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: still has you know, years left, especially the way he's

1308
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: playing this year. He's just playing lights out and uh,

1309
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: and I just I just respect him so much as

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01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: a person and a player. Dave gets tired of hearing

1311
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: me say this in the booth during the games on Sunday,

1312
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: But I just do. I just I just find him

1313
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: a remarkable human being, and so anything good that happens

1314
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: to him, you know, not not at the expense of

1315
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: somebody else, but anything good that happens for him on

1316
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: the football field or off. It's quite frankly, I'm all four.

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01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, because I was afraid I

1318
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: bore you about talking about JJ too much. Yeah, no, no,

1319
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: And I think we're both on the same page that way. Hey, Rabes,

1320
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about our blueprints when we

1321
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: wrap up the huddle next. But what's your blueprint for

1322
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: beating Washington? Well? This is this is a good football

1323
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: team there, and how many times have we said this.

1324
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: They're better than their record. They're in a division that

1325
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: has not been playing great. A couple of their wins

1326
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: are against Dallas, you know, some of their wins against

1327
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: teams in their own NFC East which have been downside

1328
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. But we saw it out of the

1329
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: New York Giants. You you can't look at records and

1330
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: you can't take anybody lightly. I don't know that that's

1331
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: what they did. I know that that's what Shack Griffin

1332
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: said that happened. Maybe they took them a little lightly.

1333
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 1: I know that's not going to be the case this week.

1334
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: All you have to do. And the first thing I

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01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: did when I looked at looked at their lineup and

1336
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: looked at my spotting boards on Monday to get ready

1337
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: for this game is look at the defensive front. And

1338
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: even before I heard Beat talking about it, I knew

1339
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: this was going to be the center of attention. They

1340
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: have four first round draft choices on their defensive line.

1341
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: Four the last four years have been a defensive lineman

1342
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: drafted first, and that's who they have upfront. And you

1343
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: know there's not a weakness there. You just can't find one.

1344
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: And they've got some pretty good guys in backup roles

1345
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: as well. They've got a former first and a second

1346
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: as a backup defensive linemen. So this is where it

1347
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: all starts for them. This is going to be I

1348
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,479
Speaker 1: think the most important game for the Seahawks offensive line

1349
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: this season. So for me, that's where it's going to start.

1350
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: And the way that you eliminate a really good defensive front,

1351
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: especially if they're able to get past pressure on you,

1352
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: that is run the football. So I'm going to go

1353
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: back to what we say all the time is we

1354
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: have to be able to do something running wise. And

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01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: I also believe and this is going to be one

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01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: of my keys that I talk about in our in

1357
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: our show the Scouting Report on Saturday Night, that is

1358
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: wide receivers antight ends, but wide receivers specifically are going

1359
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: to have to beat the press because when you start

1360
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: looking at film of Washington, they can come up and

1361
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: press man to man and do a fair amount of

1362
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: the time because they have so much faith in that

1363
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: front four to get pressure. So I think it's going

1364
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: to be a really interesting match up that way. Yeah, Raves,

1365
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: It's funny that all of a sudden this pops up

1366
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: as being this team. I mean, early on you're thinking, okay,

1367
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: this is a stretch, and then all of a sudden

1368
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: the Giants pop up and beat you. But you know,

1369
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: how did you feel the Jet game? I guess I

1370
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: felt like they did exactly what they should so and

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01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: I think that this is probably the one time where

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01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: Seahawk fans are the most unsure because you know, you

1373
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: you just played a team that's over and really bad,

1374
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: really bad team, but and now you're going into a

1375
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: team I don't know what scared me I guess is

1376
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: I watched the Steeler gameye know that that was impressive.

1377
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: That was a very impressive win, especially going down for

1378
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: team nothing. So all of a sudden, this one seems insurmountable.

1379
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: It's just funny how, you know, the the NFL season

1380
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: changes as things go along. You know, I don't think

1381
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: that they were favored to win the NFC East in

1382
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: anybody's book, the Washington football team, And now all of

1383
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 1: a sudden, you see these guys. All of a sudden,

1384
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: they look unbeatable almost when you start looking at him. Yeah,

1385
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: they're you know, their defense is in the top five,

1386
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: top ten somewhere, and you know, mid range there. Their offense, though,

1387
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: has been a struggle. Part of it is, you know, quarterback.

1388
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: They've kind of bounced back and forth. Alex Smith has

1389
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: done a yeoman's job since coming back. Talk about a

1390
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: veteran that that you know, and what he came back

1391
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: from with that leg injury. I mean, for crant Aloud,

1392
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: he almost lost his life, let alone his leg, and

1393
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: here he is out there playing football and playing pretty well.

1394
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: Now he's got I know, he's got a calf injury

1395
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: that could actually keep him out of the game. And

1396
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: if that's the case, now you're talking about putting the youngster,

1397
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: the second year player, Dwayne Haskins back in there, who

1398
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: didn't impress his coaches very much in the early part

1399
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: of the season, and that's why one of the reasons

1400
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: they replaced him with Alex Smith. But that offense is

1401
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: not bad. You know. He jd McKissick, whose former Seahawk,

1402
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: a good running back, serviceable running back, but he's even

1403
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: a better receiver out of the backfield and lining up

1404
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: in the slaughter or outside. So they've got some weapons

1405
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: there with Washington, but if their defense, that is going

1406
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: to keep them in the game. And that's why we

1407
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: can't afford to turn the ball over. We've got to

1408
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: establish some ground attack and you know, kind of shorten

1409
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: this game against against Washington. Run the football, make some

1410
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 1: big plays. Got to get back to making big plays.

1411
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: We haven't really had those for a while, or very

1412
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: many of them, considering how many we had early in

1413
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: the season. And this might be that opportunity. When they

1414
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: single up, go single free or press coverage, take your

1415
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: shot and let's see if DK can either out jump

1416
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: somebody or if Tyler can outrun somebody. To the end Zone.

1417
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: Seahawks play by play man Steve Rabel. You can hear

1418
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: him every Thursday on the Huddle and obviously on this

1419
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: weekend's broadcast. Thanks Rapes. Okay, guys, see you all right.

1420
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we all list our blueprint for beating Washington.

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Speaker 1: This is the huddle. This is the huddle, apprecented by

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01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: Big Food for every Thursday from noon to two on

1423
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: seven ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome back into the huddle with

1424
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps and Stacy Ross. Now we end

1425
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: every single huddle by talking about our blueprint for beating

1426
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: the opponent. And unfortunately, you guys have always lost weekend

1427
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: and week out to me because I use a perfect formula,

1428
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: which is you guys should have it memorized by now

1429
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: step number one, healthy breakfast, step and number two score

1430
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: more points. Yeah, and I am undefeated. How do you

1431
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: know they're having a healthy breakfast? I don't. But if

1432
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: you win, I can only assume that you did. Dave,

1433
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: what's your blueprint for beating Washington? Well, I'm gonna go

1434
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: back to I was accused of quoting Chuck Knox too

1435
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: much last week, the late Great Chuck Knox. But I

1436
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: used to talk about making three to five plays. By

1437
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: the way, speaking of old school Ethan Posk, he mentioned

1438
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 1: phone booth tough in our interview that we're going to

1439
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: hear today from him. How does Ethan know what a

1440
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: phone booth is? Do you guys know what? Yes, I

1441
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 1: know what a phone booth is. It's a booth that

1442
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: you go in and use a phone. They don't have

1443
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 1: those anymore, no, but they have them in the Harry

1444
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: Potter movies. That's how they get to the ministry. Only

1445
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: you would come up with that. Um, yeah, I'm gonna

1446
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: go with a Chuck Knox thing. He used to always say,

1447
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: every game comes down to five plays, you know, and

1448
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: maybe it's three to five plays. But you think about

1449
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: last week and this is what can't happen. Ugomadi has

1450
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: to catch that ball, And at first I thought, well,

1451
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: he might have got tackled because everybody assumed it was

1452
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 1: gonna be a pick six. Have you seen Ugo Amadi

1453
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: when he gets the ball in his hands, like he

1454
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: gets supercharged, like he would have scored. That would have

1455
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: been a pick six right there. Now. They didn't need

1456
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: all these right, but you you got to make that play.

1457
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: The thing with with Puna and kJ you've got to

1458
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: make that plan. And certainly Jamal Adams, yeah, I mean

1459
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: it hit him right in the gut. So those are

1460
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: those are the kinds of plays you have to make

1461
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: going down this stretch. And they were zero. I think

1462
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: they were flat as far as um turnover ratio goes.

1463
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: And they're nine to zero when they're positive or you know,

1464
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: flat as far as turnover ratio goes. But they're still

1465
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: like minus six over the last six games. So they

1466
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: need to get right. And so to me, the key

1467
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: is going to be taking the ball away. That's how

1468
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: how you're going to get a win here. Because this

1469
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: is a tough defense. They might you know, they might

1470
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: get stuffed in the run, they might try to run.

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01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: It's it's really it's gonna be difficult, tough sledding for

1472
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: the offense. It's not gonna be like going out there

1473
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: against the Jets. So to me, it's going to be

1474
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: about opportunities that they're going to have. And you know,

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Speaker 1: and I guess on the offense side, it's more about

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01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 1: you know, like a play like against the Giants where

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01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 1: Russ you know, the first drive, he has a back

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01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: shoulder throw to Hollister, and he didn't. He didn't make

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01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: the throw. I mean, he's made that throw before. I

1480
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: know it's putting a lot on him, but he's made

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01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: that throw. So you know, those are the kind of

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01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: plays they need to make on on offense and then

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01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: on defense they've got to take the ball away. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it comes down to a very simple, simple

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01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: aspect of turnovers and the ground game on both sides. Uh,

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01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks on both side on for Washington, whether it's

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01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins or it's Alex Smith, they are limited. They

1488
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: are limited in their play They're limited overall. And you know,

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01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 1: also Ron Rivera asks Alex Smith to be a safeguard

1490
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: not a playmaker. Dwayne Haskins, they don't want to have

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01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: him out on the field right now. They don't trust him.

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01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna you're you're you certainly got to

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01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: be careful, Terry McLaurin, they've got weapons. You gotta be

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01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: on your a game. But it's really gonna be about

1495
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: the ground game being able to limit that as much

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01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: as possible on defense and on offense. It's it's going

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01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: to start with the ground game. I believe that this

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01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: offense can have a really explosive game, both in the

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01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: run game and the passing game. But it's gonna be

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01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: because that run game was effective early on and it

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01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:23,560
Speaker 1: got Washington to get off of their spot. If you

1502
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 1: can't get off the make them get off their spot,

1503
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: it's going to be a really, really difficult game, a

1504
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: really difficult matchup. And and I think, honestly, guys, coming

1505
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: out of this game, this could be a tremendous confidence

1506
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: booster for this offense in terms of we talk about

1507
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: get right games, we talk about all that, but I

1508
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: think that this is this could be the game that

1509
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: launches them to back to their former former selves. The

1510
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 1: two OA, I think is that idaho. I think the

1511
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 1: two OA his key or blueprint is start a fight,

1512
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: because I say it every week when we do our

1513
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: bold takes on Jake and Stacy, I always say that

1514
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: I want to see a fight. And let me tell yeah,

1515
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 1: were you one of those kids on the playground that

1516
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: was like fight, fight, Yeah, push one kid into the

1517
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: other kid, start rumors. Well, no, it's one of the

1518
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 1: things that this this defense, for the longest time, felt

1519
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: like it was just missing juice. I mean, you've talked

1520
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: about this. Jake has talked about this. There was an

1521
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: edge to this defense, and what I've liked is sometimes

1522
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: that's actually come from unexpected places, like DK Metcalf, making

1523
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: DBS so mad they want to swing on him. But

1524
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: I never have bought the idea that a passing offense

1525
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: um is a finesse or soft offense, and that you know,

1526
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: you have to be physical to run. I do agree

1527
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: that it is more physical feeling as a game to

1528
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: watch someone just bulldoze down the field with this power

1529
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: running attack. But I like that Dk is like an

1530
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 1: aggressive uh you know, creates a more aggressive passing attack

1531
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: where you're targeting downfield and he's bulldozing over people too,

1532
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: and I like that he kind of brings that edge

1533
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 1: starting fights. And you know what I think starting a

1534
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: fight you get those penalties, you get some extra yards

1535
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: you didn't have before. And we have been talking about

1536
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: the offense as we look forward to this, but my

1537
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:11,520
Speaker 1: more serious blueprint is I don't think Washington so Washington's

1538
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: defense has held opponents since week ten to seventeen or

1539
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: fewer points. So the Washington offense isn't great, but it

1540
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be great, And so you can't even

1541
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: let them be good. I think that a lot of

1542
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: the onus in this game also has to be on

1543
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: the Seahawks defense. Don't even let them get a touchdown.

1544
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: I mean it'll probably happen, but don't let them score

1545
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: because they are not going to need to score a

1546
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: lot to win. Their defense is so good well, and

1547
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: I like our defense. You know, you can't underestimate how

1548
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: much how disjointed they have been this year. I mean,

1549
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: look at how Ugomadi's playing really well right now, but

1550
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean it was in and out with him, Marquise Blair,

1551
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean, remember Blair, Remember Lano Hill. I mean, those

1552
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: guys are gone and we've only had Jamal Adams for

1553
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: what now six games? Seven miss miss three three and

1554
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: a quarter. Really, so um yeah, I mean I think

1555
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: these guys have a chance to really come to you other.

1556
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 1: I thought that Shaquille Griffin played really well last week

1557
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: and and that that kind of went unnoticed. So if

1558
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: he can get going, I don't know what to say

1559
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: about Dunbar. I think when he gets back and going,

1560
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: he's going to be great. But they still have a

1561
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: chance to really come together and be a good defensive

1562
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: back field they're playing really well lately, that's for sure,

1563
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: but it's they're doing it with DJ Reid and and

1564
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 1: Uguamadi and so yeah, that's to me is very exciting.

1565
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: So I feel like the defensive backfield really has a chance.

1566
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 1: So we're talking about their defense. Our defense could could

1567
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: have a really good day against this, uh, this Redskin game,

1568
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: and we might see a flurry of takeaways because it's

1569
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 1: it's so uncommon to see a Pete Carroll team that

1570
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: just is not taking the ball away right now. That's

1571
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: that's something that we really haven't seen over the last

1572
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: few years. So and really since he's been here. I

1573
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: remember two thousand twelve they were like plus fourteen thirteen.

1574
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 1: The Super Bowl year they were plus twenty, and you know,

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01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: they're just those are coming, I think, and I think

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Speaker 1: we're going to see it this weekend. All right, this

1577
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: has been the huddle. You've listened to Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps,

1578
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross do not go anywhere because Dave's going

1579
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 1: to stay here. Wyman and Bob is next. You've been

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Speaker 1: listening to seven ten ESPN Seattle