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Speaker 2: Radio, the return of Micah Parsons to Dallas last night,

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Speaker 2: and uh we get a damn tie. The Green Bay

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Speaker 3: Just ridiculous. It was a game, you know, it was

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Speaker 4: And uh, I mean Dak Prescott showed up, Jordan Love

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Speaker 4: yeah he did, he did, but he had some big

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen this offense not look prolific since the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all owe Jerry Jones an apology.

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Speaker 2: Dallas won that trade clearly based on what we saw

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Speaker 4: So how do you figure that that's a pretty like

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Speaker 4: He's made this team, this Green Bay Packers team a

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Speaker 3: But I don't think it's moved the need on saying that.

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Speaker 4: I look at Dalla, that Dallas as the as the

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Speaker 4: I don't think that they necessarily won. They did not

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Speaker 4: He wasn't on Dallas's side last night. He's not in

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Speaker 4: It's finding doctor said he needs a backyotomy.

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Speaker 3: So it's just a wait and see type of deal.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think that Dallas did not win the

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Speaker 5: the That was the one definitive thing I'd say. If

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Speaker 5: all right, well you just gave up about over one

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Speaker 2: But imagine how much worse it would have been at

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Speaker 2: By the way, in all seriousness, green Bay almost lost

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Speaker 3: What a bummer?

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Speaker 5: So bad? I mean, I don't I'm so tired of this.

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Speaker 5: Can we not just implement some sort of rules, some

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Speaker 5: Do you guys like ties?

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Speaker 2: Is it time to start worrying about the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 2: who I believe two of the three of us picked

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Speaker 5: You did? I believe you went money line?

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Speaker 2: you know what, a two and a half point favorite

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Speaker 3: Right, Hi, Pete.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the the Liam Cohen Robert Sala near

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Speaker 2: Donnie Broke that took place, and Robert Sala saying I

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Speaker 6: Well he might have if he had got to him.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I don't know if I'm Liam

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Speaker 6: To be honest with you, but look why Robert Salas

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Speaker 6: in terms of Liam Cohen, it makes no sense. If

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Speaker 6: that job was, don't you. It came down to Liam

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Speaker 6: But you saw that.

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Speaker 3: What that was.

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Speaker 6: The reality is it's one of those when a guy's

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Speaker 6: That's what that was.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you want to buy him, and got about

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Speaker 5: It was like, all right, if you really wanted to

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Speaker 5: just be like, hey man, let's go like what's up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, But Brady. What was Robert Sala's mess? What was

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Speaker 6: You know, Brady, did they rush him back? That's a

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Speaker 5: you know, could he have been potentially not really driving

437
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Speaker 5: through snapping down some of his throws so they weren't

438
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Speaker 5: sailing high of course, like all those things could play

439
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 5: a factor in all that. You know, only he really knows.

440
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Speaker 5: My thing is just like you made the change because

441
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 5: you felt like, I guess he was ready. Mac Jones

442
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 5: won two games like he was playing fine. I don't know.

443
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Speaker 6: Last year they know how bad he is.

444
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Speaker 5: It would have it would have been an amazing mac

445
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Speaker 5: Jones revet out there with Matt ten out there slinging

446
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Speaker 5: it around. I'm just saying, I would love to see

447
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Speaker 5: that he's pete.

448
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 6: Well, he's not any good. He's a backup quarterback in

449
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Speaker 6: the NFL twenty years.

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Speaker 5: Okay, what was your assessment Jackson Dart Then this is

451
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Speaker 5: what I want on here.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean Jackson dark got schemed up for one

453
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Speaker 6: drive and then he became, you know, a young quarterback

454
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 6: you know, was struggling to make plays. That's what it was.

455
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Speaker 6: I mean, maybe he could becoming the first start. Brady

456
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 6: mac Jones has been in the league and have been

457
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Speaker 6: the starter for a while. He's just a guy, it's

458
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Speaker 6: all he is.

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Speaker 5: He No one's making a comparison right now between Matt

460
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Speaker 5: Jones and Jackson Darth are two separate conversations.

461
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Speaker 6: You brought it up.

462
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Speaker 5: Yes, what do you think of Jackson Dart?

463
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Speaker 6: I thought he was okay. I didn't think he was

464
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Speaker 6: very good. I thought he was okay. I mean in look,

465
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Speaker 6: clearly he could move around and brings his life to

466
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Speaker 6: it with his legs and could do some things that

467
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 6: the other stiff couldn't do. But the bottom line is

468
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 6: he's got to be better and stay in the pocket

469
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Speaker 6: and go through his progressions. It's just going to take time,

470
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Speaker 6: but he gives them hope at least that you're Giants

471
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 6: fan rather than moon ball Larry throwing them up on

472
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Speaker 6: the sidelines and throw them into the gold A.

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Speaker 5: Lot of those moon balls actually been touchdowns. I know

474
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Speaker 5: you're like ragging on him, but he's like top sixteen

475
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 5: I think in yards. They doesn't play every game Brady.

476
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Speaker 6: Last week he completed more passes to the goalpost than

477
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Speaker 6: he did the elite neighbors.

478
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Speaker 5: Come on, yeah, and now they don't have the league

479
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Speaker 5: neighbors based on what we're saying from the reports.

480
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's terrible. That's terrible. Then and then the turf there.

481
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Speaker 6: You know, I know there's a whole issue, but you know,

482
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Speaker 6: at some point you got to figure out a way

483
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Speaker 6: to get grassed in those places because the turf is

484
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Speaker 6: awful on those guys.

485
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Speaker 4: Speaking of maybe what could be considered awful a forty

486
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Speaker 4: forty ot tie Pete.

487
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Speaker 6: By the way, I didn't hear the way there we go,

488
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Speaker 6: Hey Labar, I didn't hear you in the beginning. I

489
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Speaker 6: thought you were hiding after that pet of state.

490
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Speaker 4: No damn, hey, Pete, your hate is so real, man,

491
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.

492
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Speaker 3: And that's okay.

493
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Speaker 4: And least at least we took it to ot. We

494
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 4: took a double ot and we had a chance, we

495
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: had the chance to win it.

496
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Speaker 3: Like, we didn't get blown out or anything like that.

497
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Speaker 6: What are you thinking.

498
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 4: You're getting?

499
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 6: You're won?

500
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Speaker 3: What I did say we almost won. I didn't say

501
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Speaker 3: that we almost won.

502
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Speaker 4: I just said that, you know, we were in a

503
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Speaker 4: good situation and we just didn't. You know, we didn't

504
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Speaker 4: finish it out, that's all. And I know you're you're

505
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 4: feeling real good about yourself because you guys got a

506
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Speaker 4: quality win against TCU.

507
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Speaker 3: Great.

508
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not a hater like you. Like look

509
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Speaker 4: happy for you. Your team won, got a big victory

510
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 4: against TCU. Great for you. But back to my original question,

511
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Speaker 4: how did you feel about a game finishing forty forty

512
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Speaker 4: tie on the what would be considered to be the

513
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Speaker 4: late night only game and the the you know, the

514
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Speaker 4: show case green Bay versus the Cowboys Michael Parsons returns

515
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 4: home and plays against you know, Jerry Jones and the

516
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 4: evil Dallas Cowboy. What was your take on the game?

517
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Speaker 6: Well, first off, the greatest pass rusher in the league,

518
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 6: according to you, didn't make a play really last time.

519
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 5: He had a sack.

520
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: No, he did.

521
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Speaker 6: He had that chase him down on that running play,

522
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Speaker 6: and I mean that was basically it for him. The

523
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 6: other thing is I thought that the Green Bay Packers

524
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 6: and matt Lefloord Jess. But you're the last end of

525
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 6: the game scenario. And I'm not talking and I'm not

526
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 6: talking about just the last couple of plays. I'm talking

527
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Speaker 6: about the entire time. You're taking your time going down

528
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Speaker 6: the field when you know you're in a situation where

529
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Speaker 6: you only have one time out and the clock is

530
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Speaker 6: going to keep moving. What were they doing? It was awful.

531
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Speaker 6: They acted like they had all day to get down there,

532
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Speaker 6: and then when they get down there, they got away

533
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Speaker 6: with one. Because I don't know what the hell they

534
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Speaker 6: were doing down there when they threw that pas into

535
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 6: the end zone. So bad clock management. And I hate

536
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 6: to see ties. But don't you think that if you're

537
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 6: the cowboy, you come away from that thinking, okay, I'll

538
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 6: take this time, walk off with it, right?

539
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Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Which about a way throwing shay that at Micah that

541
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Speaker 4: and you made the comparison between him and Miles Garrett.

542
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 4: You do know Miles Garrett touched the ball carrier twice

543
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: on Sunday and that was about it. You know, that

544
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 4: was about it for his production. You do know that, right, Yeah, Pete,

545
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Speaker 4: I haven't.

546
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Speaker 6: Wanted to take yet. I bet there's about fifteen hurries

547
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 6: involved in that well, and I bet.

548
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: You there's about twenty hurries for Micah.

549
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not the same, but Miles he did have

550
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Speaker 6: a sack.

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Speaker 5: By the way, Pete, I don't know why you're trying

552
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Speaker 5: to discredit that ub hits.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so there you go, Pee, Miles Garrett's better, you know,

554
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Speaker 6: I think I think that Pete, you get a little

555
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Speaker 6: bit kind of delusional.

556
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 4: About how you see factual information as it applies to

557
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 4: you factual information, and then you come up with these

558
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: these wild assertions and that's okay. It's okay, Pete, because

559
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 4: I respect you and I respect your mind ultimately, while

560
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: we all bring you on the shows because we got

561
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: a crazy amount of admiration for you, Pete. So you know,

562
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 4: but just in this one moment, right here, right now,

563
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: you're just you know, you're you're over your skis man,

564
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: you're on the wrong side of your bet.

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00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: That's all, Pete.

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Speaker 2: If you're the Miles Garrett of nf ATL analysts, who's

567
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: the Michael Parsons in the industry.

568
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 6: Look at that, Brady Quinn.

569
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Speaker 3: Perfect.

570
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: No, No, that's a perfect answer, Pete. You because you're

571
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 4: better than You're better than Pete Prisco.

572
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Speaker 3: So there you go. It was a great admission. There

573
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Speaker 3: you go.

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00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 5: I've got to out Pete.

575
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: Pete.

576
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 5: I've got a team in mind who has been the

577
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 5: most disappointing team to you so far this season, because

578
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 5: I've got one that I think stands.

579
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Speaker 6: Out by the way, Brady, I'm looking at the official

580
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 6: statue just like I thought, there's no stack from MICHAEH.

581
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 6: Parsons on the statue. I don't think.

582
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: I don't think, yeah there is, well there is. I'm sorry,

583
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: I don't think. Oh Pete getting.

584
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Speaker 2: Bad, I.

585
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 6: S LeVar, LeVar, I can say what I was wrong?

586
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: I was wrong?

587
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, Well, can we transition to the team that

588
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 5: has disappointed you the most so far through four games

589
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Speaker 5: this season.

590
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Speaker 3: Well, that's a good question, Brady.

591
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: Why is that the Ravens and not just because struggle

592
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 4: with that?

593
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean I wasn't as I thought they'd be good.

594
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Speaker 6: I didn't think they were gonna win the Super Bowl

595
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 6: like everybody else did. But yeah, one of three they've

596
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 6: been defense has been awful. I mean, my gosh. You

597
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 6: can do whatever you want, whenever you want, however you

598
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 6: want to that defense, and that's never been the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: I mean you Pete, huh wow, look at you, LeVar,

600
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Speaker 3: take that, take them.

601
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Speaker 6: But uh but when you look at the Ravens defense,

602
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 6: everybody runs on them. People throw on them, they push

603
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 6: them around. The guys are wide open. I mean, when

604
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 6: was the last time Patrick Mahomes looked like that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, had a worthy about that back helps But yeah.

606
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, true. But even with Worthy last year, he wasn't

607
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 6: put up four duckdown games, right, that was terrible on

608
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 6: Sunday And they have major issues. But the good news

609
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Speaker 6: for him is no Joe Burrow with the Bengals. The

610
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 6: Browns clearly have a quarterback problem. And are you true

611
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 6: believers in the three and one Steelers yet? I mean,

612
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 6: he's done a nice job with that team. Are you

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Speaker 6: believers in them as being a team that, you know,

614
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Speaker 6: egg win the division and go to the super Bowl?

615
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, it's early. It's early. We did say that. Like,

616
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Speaker 5: it's probably been the most disappointing division in the NFL.

617
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: Where you thought there could be three teams are playoff teams,

618
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 5: now there might be one. I mean now again, I

619
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Speaker 5: think Baltimore will be able to climb their way back.

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Speaker 5: There are two talented there's too many stars in that team.

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Speaker 5: But you know, the other question is like can Pittsburgh

622
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Speaker 5: hang on? Like I think what they've done so far

623
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Speaker 5: leads me to think they're only going to get better, Like,

624
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Speaker 5: I don't think they're gonna fall off, you know, kind

625
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 5: of like the offensive in the second half of last year.

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Speaker 6: I would agree with you, Brady. I would agree with

627
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Speaker 6: you because you know, one thing that you're starting to

628
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Speaker 6: see is the young offensive line that they put a

629
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 6: lot of assets into. Those guys are starting to play better.

630
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 6: Like Fraser McCormick. You know, Fatanu. All those guys are

631
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Speaker 6: playing better, and once that offensive line gets going, they

632
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 6: start running the ball and take the pressure off of

633
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers even more. I think that's really gonna help

634
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 6: them defensively. I still have concerns because how many geriatrics

635
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 6: do they have on that defense. I mean that that's

636
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 6: an old that's an old defense. That's an old I

637
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 6: can say that because I turned sixty five on Sunday,

638
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 6: so I can say, Jerry.

639
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 5: Oh Man, yeah, man, you never know.

640
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 6: You would never you would never know it, would you?

641
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: Almost?

642
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: You almost out of here?

643
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 6: LeVar LaVar. You know what I tell all of the

644
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 6: ball players. Look, I might be sixty five, How old

645
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 6: are you, LeVar?

646
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: Forty seven?

647
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 6: Okay, you multiply that by two because you played football,

648
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 6: so you're really ninety four. So shee uh enough, fair enough.

649
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: Hey, I always say that, Pete. But you know what,

650
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: You're going to be right there with me, Pete. We

651
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 4: will be walking in the gates together.

652
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 6: Hey, LeVar, I'm going to live to be one hundred

653
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 6: and four years old, sitting on a caps crapping in

654
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 6: my pants, having somebody change my type. But bitching about

655
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 6: bad quarterback.

656
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: Popping blue shoes.

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Speaker 6: Do you one quick thing before we go? Brady Quinn

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Speaker 6: says he never gets sick. He told me that when

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Speaker 6: we work together, never sick, never gets sick. You got

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Speaker 6: a cold, Brady, you're lying.

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Speaker 5: You gotta cold, Brady, I don't get sick.

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Speaker 3: You got a cold, Brady Quinn.

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Speaker 5: The allergies, she's allog.

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Speaker 6: You're a liar, Brady, You're sick. You got a cold.

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Speaker 2: Pete Priscom people you said to get next to me,