WEBVTT - “TALES FROM AN UNDERGROUND SEX DUNGEON”

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<v Speaker 1>the episode. Hello, Hello, Hey, how are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing okay, I'm getting ready to go out right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing my makeup, which is very exciting. I can

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<v Speaker 2>just get into it. I guess I'm going to a

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<v Speaker 2>b d s M kink party tonight. It's anime semes

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<v Speaker 2>and I am going to get walked around on a

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<v Speaker 2>leach on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Sunday night. So don't you just do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys not have work tomorrow or you I do?

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<v Speaker 2>I work at six in the morning tomorrow, and I

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<v Speaker 2>worked this morning. I worked at Yeah, I work somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>that I probably shouldn't be going to a BDSM kink club.

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<v Speaker 2>So can I.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay if you want to keep it under wraps,

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<v Speaker 1>But where is it you work where you add that

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<v Speaker 1>you probably shouldn't be going to a b DSM kink club.

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<v Speaker 2>I work at a place of worship. I work, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I do interesting now.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I am of the opinion that you can have

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<v Speaker 1>both a relationship with God and enjoy kinky BDSM sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive.

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<v Speaker 2>See, and that's my thoughts exactly. But I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little funny to be at church this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I am, and then I'm getting ready,

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<v Speaker 2>like right now, I'm wearing like a latex in her

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<v Speaker 2>shelfheit and it's just like funny to go for my

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<v Speaker 2>church close.

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<v Speaker 1>To that, you know, now, is this something that you

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<v Speaker 1>have always been been interested in?

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<v Speaker 2>No? So kind of. Actually it's complicated because I was

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship for a really long time, so I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to explore my sexuality. And then when I

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<v Speaker 2>broke up with him, I was like, fuck it, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna try everything, and I went a little crazy, but

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<v Speaker 2>we dialed it back in and now we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>like safe events and safe things, and we're doing that

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<v Speaker 2>to just like explore. So I have not done this before,

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<v Speaker 2>leased not to this capacity, and it is new for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when you say when you say you the way

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<v Speaker 1>you said safe things, like were you going to stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that was unsafe? And if so, what made it unsafe? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>God?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So like last summer, I decided because we broke

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<v Speaker 2>up to like about a year and a half two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, and I was like, oh, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>meet up with every dude on Tinder ever and I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually like, it's complicated about that because I didn't wind

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<v Speaker 2>up sweeping around as much as I wanted to. But

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<v Speaker 2>I did try to go to a couple people's houses

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<v Speaker 2>about telling anybody where I was going, and without having

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<v Speaker 2>talked to them for more than like an hour. And

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<v Speaker 2>there was this one guy that I tried to meet

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<v Speaker 2>up with and I accidentally got super high and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't go, and then he posted pictures with his gun

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<v Speaker 2>on staff chat like a week later. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh god, I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch there there goes. Yeah, once again to the rescue.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, yeah, it saved my life a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, so you uh so, I guess so you

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<v Speaker 1>broke up with this guy and you were like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna just meet up with every dude from tender ever

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<v Speaker 1>and that was your version of a of an unsafe environment.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did. Sorry, I actually I did wind up

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<v Speaker 2>going to This is a little bit more recently, but

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<v Speaker 2>I went to some concert recently and I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go by myself if my friends didn't push me. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was just at someone's house, Like I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>where I was going, and I didn't want to tell

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<v Speaker 2>anybody where I was going, and I was just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna show up at this random person's house

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<v Speaker 2>by myself and I'm just gonna vibe. And to me,

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<v Speaker 2>as like an asad person, that seems pretty unsafe. So

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<v Speaker 2>there were there were events that I went to where

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<v Speaker 2>I should have been telling someone where I was going.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, I mean was it's uh I mean when

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<v Speaker 1>you say it was at a guy's house, like it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a house show, like a like one of

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<v Speaker 1>those DIY punk shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was really cool. But I did

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<v Speaker 2>get hurt in the last bit, and if I had

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<v Speaker 2>been alone, I could have gotten like seriously hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, how did you start getting into these uh,

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<v Speaker 1>these these more I guess official events.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a friend who was working as a

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<v Speaker 2>stripper for a little bit, and he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you should do this, that and the other with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, okay, fuck it, I'm gonna know.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I guess when he was a striper, he

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<v Speaker 2>wound up getting all his stripper friends were telling him like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's these different events you can go too,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he wound up pulling them on Instagram and

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<v Speaker 2>he showed them to me, and then that's how I

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<v Speaker 2>wound up getting involved.

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<v Speaker 1>And how many how many of these events have you

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<v Speaker 1>been to so far?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I've been to so many. I've been to

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<v Speaker 2>mostly his shows. So I went to like I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say, like seven or eight of his shows, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I've been to two or three like kinky clubs,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're all like different pop ups, so those are

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool. But this is the first time I've run

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<v Speaker 2>on one this big, which is really exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>And is this Are these events adding joy and value

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<v Speaker 1>into your life?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that adding human experience, Like it sounds so crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe there's joy, maybe there's not. I really don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I really love trying new things and going out

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<v Speaker 2>and doing new things. Like today, I just felt a

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<v Speaker 2>breeze in my body and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm a human. I getting to experience human

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<v Speaker 2>things and this is part of that, you know, So

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<v Speaker 2>I would say yes, but also not.

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<v Speaker 1>Directly, you know, it is interesting, so like fundamental to

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<v Speaker 1>the human experience, like one of the most fundamental things

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<v Speaker 1>to the human experience, and yet consistently relegated to a

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<v Speaker 1>domain of shame.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. And I think about that probably a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>than I should. And so like when I first became single,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm going to talk to every sex

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<v Speaker 2>positive friend that I know, and when she's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>like different perspectives, I was so scared to like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, just like explore that side of myself and

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<v Speaker 2>talk to people about it and be open.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what did you learn from talking to your friends?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I think the biggest thing is that like everyone

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<v Speaker 2>has a really different perspective on sex, because like I

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<v Speaker 2>talked to a few of my friends that are like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to save it for the right person whom

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<v Speaker 2>you're in love with. And then I have this other

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<v Speaker 2>friend that I talked to who like he was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just have he I think he's had sex with

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<v Speaker 2>like two hundred r hundred people something crazy like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and not to fund shame, it's just not normal, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like, Yeah, sex is just the thing

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<v Speaker 2>people do and it's fine. And I was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, that's cool, and so like I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still to find my relationship with it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's exciting to get different perspectives.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dude, you know, I I've been seeing a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of this these like TikTok videos of of like people

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<v Speaker 3>talking who are very like anti porn and anti sex

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<v Speaker 3>work and OnlyFans and stuff, and like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like they're with all this stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like there is a right answer, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or right or wrong. It's just like we were lucky

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<v Speaker 1>enough to live in a world where you get to

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<v Speaker 1>make your own decisions inform your own opinions about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for some people they're like, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had sex with three hundred people and whatever, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean anything to me. And then for other people they

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<v Speaker 1>would be, you know, horrified by that. And then for

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<v Speaker 1>other people it's like, you know, just one partner for

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<v Speaker 1>my entire life, and everyone hopefully gets to do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they want without infringing on other people's ability to do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they want as well.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and like, I think it's really exciting to

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<v Speaker 2>get to explore those perspective, Like, I don't think I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I could see myself like having three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred sexual partners. I think for me, it's still kind

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<v Speaker 2>of an intimate and personal thing. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>why it's exciting to get to go to shows like

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<v Speaker 2>this right where I can like kind of explore my

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<v Speaker 2>sexuality and be a sexual person and express that to

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<v Speaker 2>the people around me without feeling the need to sleep

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<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of people and also to like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, just like get to again. It's it's still

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<v Speaker 2>as expression part of it that I really want to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the universe without sleeping around.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the what's the Christian deal? Are you Christian?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? So I was raised Christian and then I did

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<v Speaker 2>this guy who was atheist for a long time, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was really like one of those atheists that was

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone's atheists are your stupid? And I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this was weird. Anyway, he kind of made me move

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<v Speaker 2>away from the faith and I wouldn't consider myself religious

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<v Speaker 2>sinning is now, I'm definitely agnostic, but I've been working

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<v Speaker 2>on healing my relationship with Christianity whether or not I

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<v Speaker 2>decide to be Christian with this job. So no, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not religious, but I have a large amount of respect

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<v Speaker 2>for it, and this particular place that I work is

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<v Speaker 2>really they do a lot of good things for the community,

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<v Speaker 2>and I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you exactly do for them?

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<v Speaker 2>I do a lot of things for them. I really

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to dox myself right now, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of their creative stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I should I could say what kind of creative stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Any creative management.

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<v Speaker 1>I do that, Okay, I like, do you like run

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<v Speaker 1>their Instagram or something? What would I mean? You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk about what anything you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, But what kind of creative things are they doing?

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<v Speaker 2>All sorts of things. I help with, presentations, I help

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<v Speaker 2>with I do help with social media. That's most of

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<v Speaker 2>what I do. I do a lot of like graphic

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<v Speaker 2>design for them, and I really like doing that. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I am so grateful to have this job because I

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<v Speaker 2>work two jobs. I go to school full time, and

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<v Speaker 2>I like, I like this job a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you ever hide a big penis in a folder

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and on a flyer like somewhere like industry.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's probably not, But where I would hide

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<v Speaker 2>it is in my office somewhere. I would hide it

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<v Speaker 2>in my office or whoever comes next, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I might. Now that you said, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a good idea, I mean it is fun though.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I actually did something similar to my old food

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<v Speaker 2>service jobs because I worked in food service for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. I did that's like five five or six years.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I did that and the couple of stores closed,

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<v Speaker 2>not finding fault other than Brent going up, I hid

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<v Speaker 2>like little drawings of things around the store for the

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<v Speaker 2>new managers to find, and it would be like I'd

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<v Speaker 2>label them X out of six and I would only

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<v Speaker 2>put five drawings in the store. Three jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen this thing of how somebody hid

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<v Speaker 1>a penis on the cover of the Little Mermaid VHS no,

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<v Speaker 1>google it, Yeah, somebody hid a penis. They had to

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<v Speaker 1>like recall of this. I don't know if this is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, wait, actually I have seen this. I have seen

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<v Speaker 2>this that thought a long time ago when I was

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<v Speaker 2>like I think I was like fifteen when I saw this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it didn't click.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what's your ultimate goal? What do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do with your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, that's that's a great question, because I've been

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure that out because at first I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I want to get married and have a

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<v Speaker 2>good husband or wife I don't know, and like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be happy in that my love life.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my love life fell apart and I was like, shoot,

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<v Speaker 2>well now I really have to focus in on my art.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think my ultimate goal is just to

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<v Speaker 2>I don't keep trying new things and keep whether that

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<v Speaker 2>be like this type of thing or artistic things, or

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<v Speaker 2>I also want to meet as many people as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I love talking to new people.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Meet Is there a strong community aspect to this sex

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<v Speaker 1>dungeon thing? Are you meeting a lot of friends there?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going with my friend who is no longer

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<v Speaker 2>a stripper, and then he invited one of his friends

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm excited to meet her. And there's lots of

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<v Speaker 2>people there. From what I can tell, the first general

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<v Speaker 2>admission sold out, and then the VIP did not, so

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<v Speaker 2>I almost had to get VIP of.

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<v Speaker 1>Well how much how much it cost to get in?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my ticket was a little over one hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and my outfit was about Yeah, my outfit was probably

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<v Speaker 2>about oh god, the two fifty and and then you

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<v Speaker 2>buy drinks and so there's even more in the drinks

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<v Speaker 2>aspect of it. You know, I gotta find my booty shorts.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a that's an expensive sex dungeon. Geez? What

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<v Speaker 1>is though? Is it just like is it just a

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<v Speaker 1>show or like people walk around and like fuck each

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<v Speaker 1>other afterwards?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I wish no, It's it's just a club

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<v Speaker 2>like it's a club environment, I think. And then they

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<v Speaker 2>have they do have like a I'm as far as

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell, they have a show and it is

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<v Speaker 2>someone getting tied up on stage and it's actually really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I followed them on Instagram. They're super cool. They've gotten

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<v Speaker 2>banned a couple of times. I followed their new accounts

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<v Speaker 2>and there's drinks and mingling, and I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>spanking floor. I don't know if I can get to

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<v Speaker 2>the thanking for I did I did see Okay, actually

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<v Speaker 2>I did go to one of these events before, and

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<v Speaker 2>I did see some guy. I don't want to yuck

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<v Speaker 2>anybody young, and I totally respect what he's in two

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<v Speaker 2>but he was getting kicked in the balls over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again, and it was mildly amusing because I just

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't expecting it. And that was the first one that.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to, Oh, I I want you to I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to know something. I want you to know something.

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<v Speaker 1>You saying you don't yuck. This guy's young. You you preferencing,

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<v Speaker 1>you laughing at that guy who gets kicked in the

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<v Speaker 1>balls for sexual pleasure. I want to give him. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to give him some credit because he knows that

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<v Speaker 1>that's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>How does he figure this out? That's what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to know. Apparently he's notorious in my local area. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to a friend about it, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the friends, because I talked to a few friends about sex,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have sleft with like two or three hundred people,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, Hey, I went to this kinky

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<v Speaker 2>club and I saw this guy getting kicked in the balls.

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<v Speaker 2>How funny, Like it was just weird. And my friend

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, it told up a fucking picture of

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<v Speaker 2>the guy on their phone and goes, yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>him on tender. He's the only guy into that in

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<v Speaker 2>this area. And I was like, what the hell are

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<v Speaker 2>you talking about? Anyways, that was crazy. That was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I always it's five to talk to people

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<v Speaker 1>about this kind of stuff before. I'm not I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty vanilla guy. I'm not a big like uh uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, beat the shit out of me or kick

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<v Speaker 1>me in the balls, or piss in my mouth or

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<v Speaker 1>let me piss in yours kind of a guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish that was though, because I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my uh potential for sexual pleasure has a it really

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<v Speaker 1>it's really got a ceiling on it, you know, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>like guy getting kicked the balls, he's like in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighth dimension, I'll never experience what that's like.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I kind of agree, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's also why I'm going to things, because like, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you that I'm going to this DS and

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<v Speaker 2>kink party of getting walked around in the leash, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've never I've actually never had sex in a BDSM way.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never my ex dexys this for like, god, almost

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<v Speaker 2>long long ass time, we never tried anything kinky. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the Pregulus thing, it was like public stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, maybe I shouldn't say that on a podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>but too late.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we go, what's the like, what is there?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't have to get as specific or

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<v Speaker 1>general as you want, but what's the thing you're most

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<v Speaker 1>excited to do? It says here You're walked around on

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<v Speaker 1>a leash.

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<v Speaker 2>That is absolutely what I'm the most excited about, because

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<v Speaker 2>I've wanted to try that type of thing before, and

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<v Speaker 2>like the humiliation stuff, I think it is really really

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<v Speaker 2>fun and it's super embarrassing, but also like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been kind of into it and so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>excited to have that opportunity, especially with a hot girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I want to know. I want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go ahead, Fisher, you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, Oh, I'm gonna say, I'm still only looking to

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<v Speaker 2>make friends. Oh, she's so hot.

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<v Speaker 1>She is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just excited to have fun with the friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, what do you want to know if

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<v Speaker 1>you went to the confessional and you told the pan

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<v Speaker 1>I love getting walked on in this sex dungeon. I

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<v Speaker 1>love getting shown around on a leash. I love this

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<v Speaker 1>crazy BDSM sex stuff. But I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 1>aligns with the religious institutions that I have aligned with.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think he would say? I'm just knowing

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<v Speaker 1>priests and knowing you and your life. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think he would say?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a great question because one time I went

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<v Speaker 2>into his office and I saw a book about sex

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<v Speaker 2>on the table. It was something like Priesthood and Sex,

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<v Speaker 2>Everything you need to know, And I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take a picture of that and get my idea

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<v Speaker 2>of what he thinks about it. So I'm not just like.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>They're pretty accepting it is this point, and I think them.

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<v Speaker 2>Being accepting means that they won't. I don't think they'll

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<v Speaker 2>have a problem with it. I really don't. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think they might not want me representing them if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it, but that's a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not posting nude photos of myself online.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, Well, I'm definitely going to go to

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<v Speaker 1>Kindle and search for Priesthood and Sex and read at

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<v Speaker 1>least the first couple pages of that book, because it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds very interesting. What did you did you read any

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<v Speaker 1>of it?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I just took a picture of it. This was

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<v Speaker 2>relatively recently, so I didn't get a chance to. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really busy, so it's like hard to do the things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sounds like you have a very very busy schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I am going to see you in La.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're coming to see me in La.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming to see you in La. I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I'm leaving class early to come to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not your fault. I just wanted to I would

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<v Speaker 2>do it anyways, but I'm very excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful. Well, thank thank you, Matt. Well are you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to say maybe you want to come talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this on stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe we'll see. We'll see for sure when when

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<v Speaker 2>the time comes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think. I feel like we've I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I've talked to somebody on stage once about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about Dominatrix in London. That was pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>They came on siring all this like spiky gear and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I was afraid that they were going to poke my

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<v Speaker 1>eye out with it, so I moved to the chairs

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<v Speaker 1>back a little bit. But uh, aman, there's anything else

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<v Speaker 1>you want to say to the people of the computer

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<v Speaker 1>before we go?

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<v Speaker 2>Stred Love not hate, and uh do what's best for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you. Have a good night, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Amanda, have a good one. Yeah. I should have

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<v Speaker 1>asked what the club was, you know, just for research purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I was in. I was in uh Poor. I

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<v Speaker 1>did a show in Portland recently and somebody came on

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<v Speaker 1>stage and talked about uh we know. It wasn't Importland.

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<v Speaker 1>It was san Fran. Yeah, I was. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>showing san Fran and somebody came on stage and talked

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<v Speaker 1>about his experience going to one of those dungeons. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never been. I kind of feel like it would be

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting thing to check out. And I actually I

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<v Speaker 1>told I told him that on stage and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you should come, you know, wearing the gecko suit, And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, uh, I feel like that would draw the

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<v Speaker 1>attention of a certain demographic, not necessarily, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>general one.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, next call Hardy howdy?

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<v Speaker 1>He's going, Yes, sir, is this Uh pork? That's a

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<v Speaker 1>great fake name. I love that pork. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, just living the dreams? Sometimes it's someone else's dream,

0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 4>but we're out here living. But yeah, but how are you?

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<v Speaker 4>It's so nice to hear your lovely voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, it's good to hear yours too, Man, what does

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<v Speaker 1>pork come from? Where does? Where'd you come up with

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<v Speaker 1>that name?

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<v Speaker 4>So my entire life have been called pork chop by

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<v Speaker 4>all my homies. I have friends whose parents don't even

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<v Speaker 4>know my real name. They've known me for decades and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just pork chops. So there's not really an origin

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<v Speaker 4>story behind it, just pork.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, pork. It says here that you called in because

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<v Speaker 1>you uh you say. It says here you lost your

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend to do to drugs and pro institution and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about that?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean yeah. You know, I don't really talk to

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<v Speaker 4>many people about it because it's kind of obviously on

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 4>the more embarrassing side. But I guess, I guess you

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<v Speaker 4>could say my whole life, I've had a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>an issue with impulse control, whether that be like spending

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<v Speaker 4>money like an ass, just wanting to get things done

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<v Speaker 4>as soon as possible, getting as high as I can

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<v Speaker 4>as quick as I can with no issues. For a

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<v Speaker 4>while there, I was using pharmaceuticals like a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people our age tend to do, and I had an

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<v Speaker 4>amazing girlfriend who gave me everything I wanted. It was

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<v Speaker 4>never hard on me about doing drugs, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>it got to the point to where I let, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess you could say, sexual urges get the best of me,

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<v Speaker 4>and like I was saying, with the impulse control. Around

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<v Speaker 4>last year, around Christmas time, when I got my Christmas

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<v Speaker 4>bonus from work, I did a little bit of a quick,

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<v Speaker 4>provocative wrong thinking and I slept with a lady of

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<v Speaker 4>the evening, and to make it worse as the time

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<v Speaker 4>went on. Within the coming months afterwards, I did it again.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I love my girl. I know how

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<v Speaker 4>you feel about people going through each other's phones. I've

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<v Speaker 4>never been one to hide things, so I never really cared,

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<v Speaker 4>but I never deleted any any proof of what I did.

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<v Speaker 4>And she found out, and you know, I broke her

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<v Speaker 4>trust and whatnot. But she stuck around for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 4>and now it's to the point to where she's in

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<v Speaker 4>my life bare minimum, I guess more or less because

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 4>she gets worried about me. But I think I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>having a lot of troubles with dealing with being by

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<v Speaker 4>myself again, like more than normal. And I can't care

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 4>to put my finger on it, like how to feel,

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 4>because there's a whole lot of guilt. There's a lot

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:17.719
<v Speaker 4>of like obviously sad because we're not together, but I

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 4>think I'm angry at myself and obviously you can only

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<v Speaker 4>go up if you're so down low. But you get

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean, I hope for.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Okay, So you didn't tell her you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to see the prostitutes. It was a sneaky visit.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course. It was like, oh, I have the money,

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm on the internet. I used to work at a

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 4>gas station out by the airport in Saint Louis, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of ladies of the evening that would

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<v Speaker 4>be frequent there. So I've never in my life ever

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:54.919
<v Speaker 4>known where you go to look for that kind of

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 4>thing other than just someone asking you on the street

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 4>corner like in the movies. But I learned learned about

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 4>this magical website where there it was a Schmortas board

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 4>of very less than i'd call beautiful women offering themselves up.

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 4>And it's always kind of been in the back of

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<v Speaker 4>my head. I'm a lonely man, you know, it's very

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:20.199
<v Speaker 4>rare that a woman comes around in my life that

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 4>I really feel like is either worth the time or

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 4>there really about me. So, you know, I never really

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 4>thought about it. But then I guess I almost want

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 4>to say it was cockiness, like I have everything I

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.120
<v Speaker 4>want right now. I got money, I got my own place,

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 4>I got a beautiful girl, Like what else would someone

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<v Speaker 4>with not I'm not trying to say I'm made of money,

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<v Speaker 4>but what else do I do with this extra money?

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? And I let my second

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 4>head do the thinking, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>So how long ago was it that you your girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>found out about this?

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<v Speaker 4>This was like and this is going to make me

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 4>sound horrible, I'm just saying it. Throwing it out there.

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 4>It was like directly after Christmas, like right before Christmas,

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 4>so like Christmas we didn't go to yeah, twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And when she found out when you now the

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>way you phrased it, where you were like, she's still

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 1>around because she cares about you. Does that you guys

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>are not still too dating, are you? But you are

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>in each other?

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<v Speaker 4>We we were for a while there and you know,

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 4>uh there she told me when we kind of got

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<v Speaker 4>back together that it's going to be hard for her.

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 4>She's gonna have nights where it's going to be something

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 4>all she can think about. It's going to be nights

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 4>where she's going to be able to brush it off.

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 4>But it just kept feeling like, and this isn't something

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 4>I guess you could say maybe part of me would

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.959
<v Speaker 4>get annoyed with it, but not annoyed, but just like

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 4>I wish you would just stop. But there are the

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 4>nights where she would be really thinking about it just

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 4>kept going and it did never stop. And it kind

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 4>of got to the point to where she just, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>even though everything was kind of going good for the

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 4>last few weeks, she just kind of was like, I can't,

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 4>like I can't get it out of my head. I

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 4>don't I can't not like think about it now. The

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.239
<v Speaker 4>thing is, even though she'll tell me that and she

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:30.239
<v Speaker 4>doesn't want nothing to do with me, we still have

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 4>those moments where she's like, I miss you. I can't

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 4>not be around you. So like we'll spend the night together.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 4>And it's not purely like sexual based or anything. It's

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 4>just we do have love for each other in our

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 4>heart and it's like we still enjoy the comfort.

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>How long were you guys together?

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<v Speaker 4>For less than a year? So that's something that I

0:28:56.400 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 4>try to remind myself. I guess whenever I get down

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 4>about it. But it was definitely less than a year,

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 4>like months, not like even close to a year. It's

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 4>coming up on a year if we were still together.

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>So are you? Are you still going out? And how

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>are you now with the drugs and the prostitutes as

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>of today?

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna lie. When I get into bad headspaces,

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 4>I do kind of self indulge. I definitely like there

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 4>was a point in my life where I would go

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 4>out of my way to eat like fake xanax, you

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean? Nowadays, I know why I probably

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 4>drink a little bit more than I ever have never

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 4>been a drinker. I don't really I'm not the kind

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 4>of person to go looking for drugs because you can't

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 4>trust drugs nowadays. But like, I don't know, I don't

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 4>really like I wouldn't say I'm actively looking for drugs

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 4>to try to soothe this, because it's not I know,

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 4>it's not going to get me anywhere further. I just

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<v Speaker 4>like I I've been one of those things where like

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 4>I kind of look back and looked at everything that

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 4>I just did, and I've just been kind of grossed

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 4>out by it, if that makes sense. Like I don't

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 4>like who I am. I don't like when I became.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the the impulsiveness.

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<v Speaker 4>Like so old you are, Yeah, I'm twenty six, just

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 4>turn twenty six.

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're around the same age. Has the impulsiveness been

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<v Speaker 1>a thing in your life for a while?

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<v Speaker 4>My whole life, my whole life, and even to like

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 4>when I say like my whole life, I mean like

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 4>small things like this is going to sound spoiled, rotten,

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 4>little shit of me, but like my I was an

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 4>only child growing up, so like, you know, if I

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 4>wanted this, I wanted that I would throw a temper

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 4>tantrum to my mom gave me a list of chores

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 4>so I can get what I wanted. If like, I'm

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 4>driving the car somewhere to get somewhere. It's not that

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 4>I have road rage, but like, don't get me wrong,

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 4>I need to get the hell around this car to

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 4>get where I'm going. When I only have like two

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 4>hundred bucks left in my account. As long as my

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 4>bills are paid and Mike, screw it, I'm going to

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 4>go buy the biggest bag of weed and then, like

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, and this is funny because I've heard about

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 4>this on another stream, I'll go do the whole door

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 4>dash instacart, you know, snagging some food low key for free,

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 4>doing that whole scam from time to time. And that's

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 4>like how I eat, you know what I mean. Like

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 4>I've kind of a dirt bag whenever you think of it,

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 4>in a lot of aspects. I haven't really done as

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 4>much growing up as I felt like I need to.

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 4>And now I'm at a point to where I feel

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 4>like I need to start growing up being a grown man.

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 4>But I don't really like I have a good job.

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't know where to go from here, you know,

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 4>what I mean, I'm kind of feel like I'm at

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 4>a stuck pace.

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk real quick. So this whole thing happening with

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>your girlfriends and it's it's okay if if not, like,

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>did did it catalyze any desire or like actions towards

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>any change for you?

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 4>Any change?

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>What like? Did it did it catalyze a stronger desire

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>for you to like change your behavior work on your impulsiveness?

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 4>Yes. At first, when she called me the first time

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 4>she found out. The first time, I definitely was feeling

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 4>bad about it. I'm like, oh, I need to stop

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 4>being like this. But after the second time, there was

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 4>an large amount of guilt that I felt. Even after

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm leaving the place that had happened, I'm like thinking

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 4>to myself, like, this is bad, this is gross. That

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 4>wasn't worth the money I just spent on it. The

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 4>woman wasn't even attractive. And then I sit back and

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 4>I look at it and it's just a whole Yes,

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 4>the answer is yes to your question, but it came

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 4>after the fact, and it's like I'm looking around at

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 4>all the little things about my life that I am

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 4>doing wrong, and it's just kind of piling up now,

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 4>so yes, it definitely had a hard negative effect on

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 4>the way I think about my impulsiveness.

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so today, let me let me ask you this

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the road ahead for you? Like, what do you what

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>do you desire? Like you're unhappy with who you are

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 1>right now? What would a better version of you look

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>like for you?

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 4>I think? And this sounds and I hate saying that

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 4>money is a make or break whether or not I'm happy,

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 4>But like the way I spend money in my impulsiveness

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 4>doesn't ever feel right in the moment. I love smoking

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 4>lead and smoking weeds since I was too young to

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 4>be smoking weed, and I'm at the point to where

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, I don't have weeds, and I'm not

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 4>going to be feeling good. I want myself to be

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 4>in a place where it's not that I necessarily, you know,

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 4>am I co completely? I'm sober, and you know, I'm

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, reading the Bible every day to get myself

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 4>on track. But I just want to kind of appreciate

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 4>myself more because when I get like this and I

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 4>do things that are my own fault, it's like a

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 4>whole lot of hate and on myself. And I can

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 4>sit here all day long and tell you what it

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 4>is that I'm hating about myself. But when it boils

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 4>down to it, what am I going to do to

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 4>change it? You know? Wow, I can't give you gone?

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Have you?

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Have you?

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm down to talk to you more about this. But

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>is this something you've talked to about a real Uh?

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Is this something you've talked to a real therapist about?

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.399
<v Speaker 4>Yes? Yes, I'm getting into it.

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I what did they tell you?

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Go on?

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 4>They're the The gentleman I'm speaking with is very old

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 4>school to the book, and he's just like, oh, you

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 4>alienate yourself from your girlfriend and leave leave that beat,

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 4>because that's the past. You can't go past from that.

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 4>But he's also very like, oh, you need to go

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.240
<v Speaker 4>to bed on time. You need to try to set

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 4>more healthier schedules and routines for yourself, and you know,

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:28.879
<v Speaker 4>like the most cliche things you could hear. And it's

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 4>not that I'm not saying that with unreceptiveness, because like

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.879
<v Speaker 4>getting up in the morning, making sure my laundry is done,

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 4>going to work on time every day has literally been

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 4>the only thing keeping me going. So like, yes, I

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 4>can agree to it to an extent, but when it

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 4>boils down to it. It's like, I don't really I

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 4>just feel like I'm kind of like everyone else and

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of just like stuck in this this this

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 4>this midway of my life, and I don't know my

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 4>next step. I don't feel that I have much talent,

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 4>and I feel like the few things that they get

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 4>going for me that are good, or the one thing

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 4>that I had going for me was this amazing girl

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 4>that I could have gone the rest of my life with.

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean?

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me let me a few things.

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 4>One.

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I laughed when you said that your therapist was by

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the books and was telling you to uh go to

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>sleep on time and do your laundry and stuff. I

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 1>laughed because, uh, dude, I went to see a therapist,

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>talked to him about a whole bunch of stuff, and

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>he fucking told me the exact same stuff. He was like,

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I swear to God, the same thing happened to me. Dude.

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.359
<v Speaker 1>He was like, he was like, you gotta go to sleep.

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>He was like, he was like, are you eating healthy?

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like not at all. He's like, are you exciting?

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like not all. He's like, are you sleeping?

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like not at all. And he's like, well,

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you got to do these things, and and I kind

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>of was like I was I was a little bit

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 1>back and forth on it because I was like, do

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>you not have anything else more esoteric to tell me?

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 1>But also but but also, well, fucking shit, maybe maybe

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:02.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe doing all those things would solve a lot of

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>my problems. And to tell you, by the way, to

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.240
<v Speaker 1>tell you, I've done none of those things. I'm still

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm still very unhealthy, and I have more things I

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>want to say about your situation, But first, do you

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>did you do those things that he told you to do?

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 4>As much as I can. I've been doing my laundry.

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 4>My room has probably been the cleanest beIN it's been

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 4>since I was a child. I go to work every day.

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't be calling off anymore. I don't go to

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.720
<v Speaker 4>work every morning with uh all this is gonna fucking suck.

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 4>I go to work with at least you're getting your

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 4>job done. I The sleep thing has actually been kind

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 4>of bad. I've been having a little bit of trouble

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 4>sleeping and keep having that nightmares. But like I keep

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 4>having dreams that like I can't help or save my

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 4>ex or that like, I'm in a really uncomfortable situation

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 4>that has nothing to do with my life.

0:37:58.719 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to say. I want to say a few

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:03.439
<v Speaker 1>a few more things too. First of all, I think,

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm a hypocrite for telling you to do this

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.919
<v Speaker 1>because I you haven't done it, but you should listen

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to your therapist, and like, don't I wouldn't rebuff. Don't

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>rebuff what he's telling you. I'm speaking to myself. Don't

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 1>rebuff what he's telling you until you've actually done it,

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 1>because chances are it will make you feel a lot better.

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>And then second thing is like the way that you

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>just just the way that you told me I don't

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>have anything going for me except for for my girlfriend.

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Is like, and I've said this a bunch of times

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>and I've thought really hard about it, is like if

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the only thing keeping you in business upstairs in your

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 1>brain is like a relationship, you know, you're you're fucking yourself, man. Like,

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.240
<v Speaker 1>you got to have things in your in your life

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 1>that you that are just with that are within you,

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>that are making you feel confident and happy. And I

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>know that you're just beating the ship out of yourself

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>because you feel guilty about the way that you've been

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 1>in the past, and you but you're bro like we're

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>young guys.

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>You you you don't. You have several more decades of

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>life ahead of you, and I hope you realize that.

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I hope you think about it every day. You have

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>several more decades of life ahead of you in which

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to work on being the kind of person you want

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to be. And even though it feels good to just

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>beat the ship out of yourself, you're not gonna get

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>there if you keep doing that. So I I understand

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the natural impulse of beating the ship at yourself, like

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I do it too, But I just hope you understand

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>that you're not gonna that's a it's a it's a

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.879
<v Speaker 1>bottomless hole. It's a bottomless, unproductive hole to just keep

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>beating the ship. I think there's a lot to be

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 1>said in thinking deeply about what you've done and and

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and the than you've been in the past and analyzing

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>those things in a productive way to make sure that

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you don't do them in the future. But like it,

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.880
<v Speaker 1>do it productively, you know, I acknowledge the things that

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 1>you did wrong, and acknowledge the things about yourself that

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't like. And then instead of just gathering it

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>as information to build a case against yourself of how

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>much of a piece of shit you are, gather it

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>as as information to help you move forward. Because you're

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>only You're a young guy. You shouldn't just throw yourself

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>away like that, and your therapist telling you to alienate

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 1>yourself from the girl. I don't know. I don't want

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:41.879
<v Speaker 1>to tell you what to do or what not to do,

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>but it does kind of sound like for both of

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>your guys' sake, that's not the worst idea. Probably bad, yeah,

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>but don't look like But dude, don't look at it like, oh,

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I've lost the only thing in my life that will

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>ever matter to me ever, because I'm such a piece

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 1>of shit. You you can do somebody things, You can

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>do so many things. What what is your what's your job?

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 1>Right now? You said you have a high paying job.

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:05.439
<v Speaker 1>What's your job?

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 4>You literally talked to somebody who does this before, and

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 4>you hated the phone call. It's I killed bugs for

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 4>a living, but I promised I don't care about the

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 4>environment as hard as he does.

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't. I didn't hate him because he

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:19.919
<v Speaker 1>cared about the environment. I hated him, I think because

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I was trying.

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 4>To you know what I mean?

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 1>He was, Okay, do you what do you outside? What

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>do you want to do with your life?

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 4>Man?

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Like? What? What?

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Excitement?

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 4>Fly that? When I when I was younger, I wanted

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 4>to and it sounds so, you know, postmillennial of me,

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 4>but I wanted to make a clothing rand when I

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.240
<v Speaker 4>was younger. I also when I was in high school,

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.919
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to do computers. But right out of high

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:49.959
<v Speaker 4>that was like I decided I was like the main

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 4>thing I wanted to do, and right out of high

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 4>school I got all these certifications, but then I fucked

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 4>off for three years. And then as soon as I

0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 4>went back to try to get back into computers, things

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 4>change so rapidly that it's like, wow, I have to

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 4>kind of start from the drawing board. And then on

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 4>top of that, I've worked in office jobs before right

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 4>out of high school, and it's miserable and like I

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 4>sounds like everyone else our age, but like I don't

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 4>know what to do. I collect Pokemon cards like a

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.280
<v Speaker 4>fucking child, and I have the coolest collection Pokemon cards.

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 4>That's a great hobby.

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I bet you do.

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 4>But but I can't sit here and like do anything

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 4>with that. I don't know like what I really want.

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's hard all on its own. And

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 4>I promise you bringing up on this call, it's not

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 4>something that I kill myself over in my head every day.

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:47.760
<v Speaker 4>But I definitely like, I feel like I am not lost,

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:49.760
<v Speaker 4>but you know what I mean, just kind of confused.

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's your name again?

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Hold on?

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>It says it right here? Actually pork Okay, pork, pork, pork.

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm. I know I'm a I'm a hard one.

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no, no no, no, no no. I'm happy

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 1>to be talking about this this right now.

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I would first of all, keep seeing the real therapist.

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Don't if it's okay, it's good to analyze the past

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and learn from it, but don't throw it in, don't

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 1>weaponize it against yourself on a daily basis.

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:42.399
<v Speaker 4>And I think that that that's important. I think out

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 4>of And I know you're probably about to say something else,

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:48.720
<v Speaker 4>but like I hear that obviously from a lot of people,

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 4>and I know it sounds very sand Boy of me,

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 4>but Lyle I listen to every day at work while

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 4>I kill bugs, and it means a lot to hear

0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 4>that from you.

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I just you should know that I feel

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm right there killing the bugs with you,

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and that makes me feel good. I had a ton

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>of ants infest my car recently. I deserved that.

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 4>I left. Leave a plate of borax, sugar and water

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 4>on the floor of your cars.

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Leave it there over the place.

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 4>I know it sounds like the bug to get there

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 4>at the place with yeah pork.

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, here's the thing I'm I don't I don't

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>think in the next two minutes, I'm going to uh

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:40.280
<v Speaker 1>completely rewire your brain to be more optimistic about your life.

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 1>But that's what I hope for you.

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:45.800
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna go into the next

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:48.799
<v Speaker 4>week just with a smile on my face, and I'm

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 4>going to try my hardest not to beat on myself

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 4>because of this conversation.

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, good trying not to be again, trying it

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to beat it on yourself. Try to think about h

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know. You said you want to

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 1>start a clothing company. You can do somebody this is

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go in circles here. But I just want

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>to know you could do so many things. Try to

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>do some ship that's not you know, get into another

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>relationship that that is beneficial of course to you, and

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:20.959
<v Speaker 1>try not to, you know, throw yourself out when you're

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>still in in in what I believe to be your infancy.

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I got you. I appreciate you, Lyle.

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 1>All right. Also, are you you're wearing a condom when

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you're having sex with these prostitutes?

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 4>Right? Yes? Whatever said one hundred? In fact, when I did,

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 4>and I would buy a box and I would always

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 4>leave it there for whoever else came, because I don't

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 4>want no one to have no CDs.

0:45:55.280 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Very gracious of you, the yes, all right, poor see

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>other people of the computer before we go.

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 4>I just want to tell the people of the computer

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 4>to buy your merch and don't take for granted what

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 4>you have. And you know, just I haven't read the

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:16.320
<v Speaker 4>chat once since we've been on the phone. But please

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 4>don't be too mean to eat other people on the phone.

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know what, pork Uh save save the money

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you would spend on a T shirt and continue to

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 1>go see your real therapist.

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:32.839
<v Speaker 4>I got your back. While you have a good night,

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 4>all right, man.

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 1>You too, take care you know, I'm trying to think

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 1>about what I think about that whole thing. I don't know.

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:47.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm always I'm trying to be fucking optimistic the whole

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing for that, for that girl's sake, the

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>girl that he was seeing. And I belive and I

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I believe him when he said that

0:46:56.160 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that girl still has feelings for him, because relationships are

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>they're fucking complicated like that. But it does seem as though,

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and again I don't I'm not trying to tell other

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 1>people what to do, but it kind of seems as

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 1>though them spending time away from each other would be

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>best for all parties involved. And uh, I don't know.

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I hope he I hope that Pork finds something to

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 1>do that fulfills him. That's why I don't know.

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 6>I don't.

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't have answers for a lot of these things,

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>right because you're born, and then you can there's colors

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>and sounds, and then you die, and your gift as

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:47.920
<v Speaker 1>a human being is that well, some of some of

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 1>us are lucky enough to have the agency in life

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to decide what we're going to do, and that can

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>be a tough decision to navigate. I don't have the

0:47:56.600 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 1>answers for it, but you know Pokemon cards isn't a

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 1>bad one.

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 5>Hello.

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Hello, Oh you're doing a bit? No, yeah you are.

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing a bit, sir.

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 4>I just want to talk to you about my business.

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 4>I want to see if you think it's a good idea.

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 4>All right, here's a business has told me that she

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 4>and human should be able to be able to be

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 4>brand together.

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I want to have a human and sheep.

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 1>All right, So right now he's talking to himself. I

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 1>put him back in the queue. Let's see if he's still.

0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Let's see if hit the talk button again. Hello, brother,

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I haven't left.

0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I need to talk about this business with you, all right, human.

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And you're going to do shut up for two seconds?

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Shut up for two seconds? Can I talk to you?

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Let me talk?

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm waiting, brother, all right.

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>You literally you have two options, because you're doing a

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 1>thing and we could talk. Your options that we could

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>talk with you not doing a bit, or we just

0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>won't talk. Which would you rather do?

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I would rather talk to you about my business of

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<v Speaker 2>having human.

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<v Speaker 4>And cheap hybrids. All right, now, Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 2>Is investing in this business.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Elon musk.

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 2>We will invest in this business.

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<v Speaker 4>Brother, I'm telling you right now, all right now. We've

0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 4>got women, we've got men, we've got transgender, We've.

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<v Speaker 2>Got everything up and down the board. But what we

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 2>don't have yet is an animal and human hybrids. Now,

0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 2>think about how much we would save on food if

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 2>we have people just eating.

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<v Speaker 5>Weat and hay and b.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about this anymore. Let's move on. That

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 1>was a good voice. He could use that voice for

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<v Speaker 1>something better than that. Hello, folks, it is Lyle. I

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:03.800
<v Speaker 1>just returned back from going all over Europe to do

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<v Speaker 1>live shows. And while I was there, I recorded several

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<v Speaker 1>interviews all around every bunch of different countries on the

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<v Speaker 1>street with people and I said words to those people

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and it was cool, and I hate doing these intros. Basically,

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:27.440
<v Speaker 1>this next section is a conversation that I had at

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<v Speaker 1>a park in Lisbon, Portugal with two young skater guys

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a really cool conversation and I learned

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about Portugal and how they feel about

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the US and how they feel about life. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice conversation to round out all the phone calls

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:50.719
<v Speaker 1>with some real life chit chats. So I hope that

0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>you guys enjoy it, and if you do, you can

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.840
<v Speaker 1>go to my YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash Lyle

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 1>forever and type in being a gecko in Lisbon, Portugal

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the whole thing. Okay, let's get let's transport

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:09.320
<v Speaker 1>ourselves right now to the magical land of a park

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<v Speaker 1>in Portugal talking to some guys. Have a seat, sit

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<v Speaker 1>down here. We are here, we are We're here in Lisbon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 6>Spike? Spike?

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to meet you. Are you a skateboarder? You look

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<v Speaker 1>like a skateboarder.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, did you tell what can you do? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>do a tray flip?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you do a kickflip?

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<v Speaker 6>I kind of suck, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of suck. Yeah, okay. How long you've been

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<v Speaker 1>skating for?

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<v Speaker 6>Like seriously for like three years?

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<v Speaker 1>Three years?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Nice? What is your dream in life to be

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a professional skateboard person?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I'd like to be like a tattoo artist, a

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:54.879
<v Speaker 6>tattoo artist.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, what inspires your tattoo tattooery?

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if you know like this artist. I

0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 6>think she's from Denmark or Germany. She's called what's her name? Damn?

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<v Speaker 6>She has like some really cool drawings.

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<v Speaker 1>Your friend looks so high right now?

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<v Speaker 6>He is kind of high.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very high, okay, cool? Well like Portugal, Yeah yeah,

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>but I mean look this is we're here in California

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:26.279
<v Speaker 1>where it's legal, so that's all good.

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:27.719
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, California.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? So, uh what what kinds of stuff have

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you been? Wait? What's the name of the artists?

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<v Speaker 6>Bowser? Yes, I remember, Okay, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Bowser, but I know a different kind of Bowser from you.

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Probably I'm talking about the turtle guy.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh not not him, the turtle, but he's also pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he?

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:47.560
<v Speaker 6>Your cousin?

0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Is Bowser my cousin? That's a going because we both

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:52.800
<v Speaker 1>look like both green curtles both like. I wish Bowser

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:54.360
<v Speaker 1>as my cousin. Man, he could get me a he

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 1>could get me in for free to his the Super

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Mario World and Nintendo, but instead I got a you know,

0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:04.319
<v Speaker 1>talk to people. I gotta talk to people Lisbon at

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 1>all times. I wish I was at the Super Mario

0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 1>World Universal but instead of in stupid Lisbon talking to

0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:16.040
<v Speaker 1>people about life. That's a good photo. What do you

0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:17.440
<v Speaker 1>think about all day. What are you what are your

0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:19.680
<v Speaker 1>primary thoughts in life?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it depends on the day, but I think usually

0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:27.720
<v Speaker 6>just getting home and smoking.

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 1>You think about just getting home and smoking. Okay.

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:32.000
<v Speaker 6>Life in Portugal is pretty tiring.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, what's up?

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 6>Yo? What's up?

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 1>What's up?

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Yo?

0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:43.920
<v Speaker 1>How you doing? I'm going, I'm gonna. What's your name? Yo?

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<v Speaker 6>My name is Soda.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do? You live here in Portugal? Yes? Oh? Ship?

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 1>What what are you doing here? Music?

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:50.839
<v Speaker 7>Man?

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 1>While I'm trying nice, I'm talking to people about their

0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 1>hopes and dreams.

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.240
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, oh you guys know, Yeah, she's my classmate.

0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh cool? Yeah, oh okay, cool. We're here. We're here

0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 1>talking to people in the streets about life. It is

0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:17.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty sick. It is kind of Spike was saying about

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:19.800
<v Speaker 1>what they What do you talk about? What do you

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:23.360
<v Speaker 1>think about all day? Getting home, getting home and smoking?

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any aspirations outside of that though? Do

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you have like stuff you like? Well, you want to

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:29.719
<v Speaker 1>be a tattoo artist, you said, I like to write?

0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 1>And what do you what are you right about? What

0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:34.399
<v Speaker 1>do you usually.

0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:38.000
<v Speaker 6>Melancholic sad boy stuff?

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Melancholic sad boy stuff. What's making you sad?

0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You don't have to talk about if

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to, But I don't know. It seems

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have you have all these friends you got,

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, you you know how to do a kick flip.

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:59.279
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty great you have. I mean, like, I don't

0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:01.600
<v Speaker 1>know you that, I don't you at all, But just

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:03.239
<v Speaker 1>from like the two seconds I've been talking to your

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:05.399
<v Speaker 1>life seems like I mean just I know, obviously things

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 1>are different from how they appear, but you seem like

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you're you're living well.

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<v Speaker 6>Sometimes depends on the day, honestly, how do you know this?

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to talk? Okay? Say Hi, what's up?

0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 1>What's what's what's here? I have a kneel down. I've

0:55:27.600 --> 0:55:29.600
<v Speaker 1>been talked about to you guys. This is cool friendship.

0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:31.520
<v Speaker 1>What what's what's your name?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm said?

0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:33.840
<v Speaker 1>You said, you said you.

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<v Speaker 5>Almost there? Almost there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay cool? What's what should I know about Portugal

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:41.480
<v Speaker 1>being here?

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. Portugal is not a country for Portuguese people.

0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:50.400
<v Speaker 7>There is a lot of stranger people and it's difficult

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.719
<v Speaker 7>to us to find Portuguese people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been none of the people I've talked to

0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you so far have been. I've been Portuguese, have all been?

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:01.959
<v Speaker 1>Uh uh from all over the place?

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah.

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:04.879
<v Speaker 1>What's what's your dream in life?

0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 5>Being an artist?

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Music artist, being an anarchist? Music music anarchist, because I

0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 1>talked to everybody here wants to be an anarchist. Let's

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:19.000
<v Speaker 1>say music? What kind of music?

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:23.240
<v Speaker 5>I sing? And I produce and play a bit guitar?

0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you wrap it all? Hm?

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 4>Do you do you rap?

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<v Speaker 5>It's like irm b I I changed myself before and

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<v Speaker 5>rapping and singing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what do you do? You want to spit anything

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:36.719
<v Speaker 1>for us? Do you want to sing anything for us?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now?

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<v Speaker 7>I have a song of mine, but I don't spike.

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<v Speaker 7>I can show you after the the interview because I

0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:48.560
<v Speaker 7>have it. I'm playing a video clip panting like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool. What's your what's you?

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:50.880
<v Speaker 2>What do you?

0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about all day?

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:55.359
<v Speaker 5>What I think about all day?

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about all day?

0:56:57.200 --> 0:57:01.800
<v Speaker 7>I think a bit of everything, but always about music

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:05.640
<v Speaker 7>and producing and playing guitar and writing.

0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:07.160
<v Speaker 1>What inspires your music?

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:14.239
<v Speaker 7>My lifestyle inspribes me a lot because we are in

0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 7>a music course and producing a music course in school

0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:23.720
<v Speaker 7>right here in Epy and a lot of already seen

0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:27.840
<v Speaker 7>people and my family are always connected with music. And

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<v Speaker 7>one day when I was said, I listened to music

0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 7>of a rapper here in Portugal and his name is Halloween, Alan,

0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 7>Halloween you have for me is the greatest of all

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:45.440
<v Speaker 7>time of your Portugal. But everyone have their opinion. But

0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 7>I started crying a lot with the music, with the feeling,

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:54.040
<v Speaker 7>and then I thinking to myself, I want to be

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 7>a music artist.

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh so you want so so this Halloween guy, he

0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 1>inspired you, he made you cry, he made you feel emotional,

0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and you you liked the way that his music made

0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you feel, and you're like, I want to do that

0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:10.160
<v Speaker 1>for other people. I want music that makes people cry. Okay,

0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:12.959
<v Speaker 1>I gotta check what do you have a SoundCloud or something.

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:17.040
<v Speaker 5>I didn't put my song on the roads already because

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:22.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm doing I was playing. I'm doing a project. It's

0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:24.280
<v Speaker 5>like me and my cousin we sing.

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:24.920
<v Speaker 4>We have.

0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 7>A couple of songs but we didn't release. But the

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 7>people are liking, are really liking. I already posted on

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 7>Instagram and preview of the song, and.

0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:42.160
<v Speaker 5>After the the interview, I can show you if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, hmm, I'm trying to think. One of the questions,

0:58:47.400 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 1>do you guys have a lot of friends here in Portugal?

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<v Speaker 6>I think.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like people here in Portugal are always bad in

0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:02.200
<v Speaker 5>a bad mood.

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Really, is that true?

0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:03.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Why why are people always in a bad mood?

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 6>We are just I think most people are overworked, at

0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:12.440
<v Speaker 6>least the Portuguese.

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 1>People overworked, so we're really grumpy. And do you guys

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 1>feel overworked?

0:59:17.480 --> 0:59:20.120
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, of course yeah. And we don't even like

0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:22.400
<v Speaker 6>have a proper job yet, we just go to school.

0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, huh what how do how do people? I guess huh, I, well,

0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's why everyone. The one interesting thing about

0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Portugal is everybody's always drinking on the streets.

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:35.840
<v Speaker 6>Like in the US, it's legal.

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.760
<v Speaker 1>There's no there's people. People See that guy right there,

0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 1>he's drinking a beer, he's having a good time. Yeah,

0:59:41.400 --> 0:59:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you can go it's a cider. No it's not, but

0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:51.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe it isn't. Oh okay, okay, Well see in America,

0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 1>if you drink on the streets, they'll tase you. But

0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:56.480
<v Speaker 1>here everyone's you know, that's not true. You guys made

0:59:56.880 --> 0:59:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you guys, You guys see even the face that you

0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:00.800
<v Speaker 1>guys made when I said that was like, oh, is

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:02.640
<v Speaker 1>that really a thing that happens, And no, it's not.

1:00:02.920 --> 1:00:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, actually maybe it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:06.479
<v Speaker 6>It depends on the state, depends on the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's how I think people think that in

1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:11.480
<v Speaker 1>America just everyone's if you jaywalk, you get taste to death,

1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:13.360
<v Speaker 1>which I don't know. That probably happens in some places,

1:00:13.440 --> 1:00:18.760
<v Speaker 1>but man, but yeah, I don't know. I guess that's why,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people are trying to blow off steam. They're

1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:24.160
<v Speaker 1>they're hanging out, they're living their lives there. Yeah, that's stuff.

1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:27.600
<v Speaker 6>Also why we drink so much. We are so overworked,

1:00:29.200 --> 1:00:29.720
<v Speaker 6>and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think it's kind of part of the cuture of our culture.

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<v Speaker 7>Every time you can see a Portuguese old guy, old

1:00:37.560 --> 1:00:42.760
<v Speaker 7>old man Portuguese like have the that mustache and always

1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:45.040
<v Speaker 7>with tiberia and a cigarette or drinking coffee.

1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:49.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, every time, it's like the I know people in

1:00:49.440 --> 1:00:52.640
<v Speaker 6>the US talk about it like the European lifestyle. Yeah,

1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:55.320
<v Speaker 6>it really is like cigarettes and coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you guys been to the US.

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<v Speaker 6>To the US never, but I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>friends from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you what's your opinion of the US, Like do

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<v Speaker 1>you have any like what's your perception of what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like over there?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, mind you, we are like since we are like

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<v Speaker 6>literally in another continent, we are very fed by the media.

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<v Speaker 6>So mainly, I'll be honest, the division Europe has of

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<v Speaker 6>the US is that you guys are very fucking dumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>like with geography or like maths. You guys, You guys suck.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where I can't even point my own

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know where California is on a map. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true, and that's not true. I do, I do,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. I actually, you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the other day, I was like, if I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a blank and I've been to almost every state, but

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<v Speaker 1>if I had to draw a map of America and

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<v Speaker 1>with all the states and ship I couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But could you guys do that?

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<v Speaker 6>I've taken like quizzes online of like getting the states right,

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<v Speaker 6>but it depends on the state. There's some I know

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<v Speaker 6>like just by looking at them, but there's others because

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<v Speaker 6>you guys shape the fucking states so.

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<v Speaker 1>Weirdly, Hey, I didn't do anything right, I don't. That

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<v Speaker 1>was Joe Biden made the States. But uh, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't know geography, yeah, and that anything else.

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<v Speaker 6>And that your political views are also like kind of

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<v Speaker 6>messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, there's some of that for sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>in there aren't In there, aren't there messed up political

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<v Speaker 1>views everywhere?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, but in a sense that imagine like here in

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<v Speaker 6>Portugal we also have like far right people just like

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<v Speaker 6>you do in the US. But the differences in the US,

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<v Speaker 6>you guys are so like the liberty rights, like you

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<v Speaker 6>don't don't treat on me. Yeah, exactly, this the snake.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy's my cousin act, he's a fellow reptile.

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<v Speaker 6>The problem is that you're so like about your own freedom,

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<v Speaker 6>you start stepping over other people's freedom, you know. Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 6>so it gets kind of clumpy and messy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I noticed, I've noticed that. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been around Europe like doing these interviews and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think, uh, we definitely need a new PR

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<v Speaker 1>person for the US. It's not hot for you, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hot for me. Oh yeah. Oh well, actually this night

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<v Speaker 1>we got a nice little bit of shade going out here.

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<v Speaker 1>But before that, no, I wanted to die. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys' names again, Spike, it's been nice talking to you.

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<v Speaker 6>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I think you achieve your dreams. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>become a tattoo artist, and I hope you, uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are able to inspire people with your your music. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad youse. Guys seem like good friends. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>you and I know that you're making emo sad boy music.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's what I Here's what I hope for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I hope for you. I hope that your

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<v Speaker 1>depression continues to exist just enough for you to write

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<v Speaker 1>good music, but not enough to impede your daily life,

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<v Speaker 1>because it seems like you got a lot of good

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<v Speaker 1>stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what I think about every time I wake up.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you guys want to say to

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<v Speaker 1>the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 6>I only have one question for you. Where are the

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<v Speaker 6>other ninety nine gigs? If you can answer that, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>What if I can't.

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<v Speaker 6>If you can, I'm interested, Yeah, I'm pretty open to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are the other nine to nine gags? Yeah? Uh

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<v Speaker 1>in my ass? Yo. Thank you guys for talking to

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<v Speaker 1>a geck. God bless you see guys around the universe, crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>crazy time, crazy World. Shout out, Shout out one hundred gags,

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out Portugal, shout out the universe. Yeah, praise uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Praise the Lord and save for Jesus Christ. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get better with my post call thoughts because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have any just now. But I'll see if anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else wants to talk.

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<v Speaker 4>Week goes on.

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<v Speaker 6>The line taking your phone calls every night every week,

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<v Speaker 6>and goes to his life's teaching you.

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<v Speaker 1>A loud every life, but he's not ready. An expert