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Speaker 1: the episode. Hello, Hello, Hey, how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing okay, I'm getting ready to go out right now.
Speaker 2: I'm doing my makeup, which is very exciting. I can
Speaker 2: just get into it. I guess I'm going to a
Speaker 2: b d s M kink party tonight. It's anime semes
Speaker 2: and I am going to get walked around on a
Speaker 2: leach on.
Speaker 1: It's a Sunday night. So don't you just do you
Speaker 1: guys not have work tomorrow or you I do?
Speaker 2: I work at six in the morning tomorrow, and I
Speaker 2: worked this morning. I worked at Yeah, I work somewhere
Speaker 2: that I probably shouldn't be going to a BDSM kink club.
Speaker 2: So can I.
Speaker 1: It's okay if you want to keep it under wraps,
Speaker 1: But where is it you work where you add that
Speaker 1: you probably shouldn't be going to a b DSM kink club.
Speaker 2: I work at a place of worship. I work, Yes,
Speaker 2: I do interesting now.
Speaker 1: Look, I am of the opinion that you can have
Speaker 1: both a relationship with God and enjoy kinky BDSM sex.
Speaker 1: I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive.
Speaker 2: See, and that's my thoughts exactly. But I just think
Speaker 2: it's a little funny to be at church this morning.
Speaker 2: I was like, I am, and then I'm getting ready,
Speaker 2: like right now, I'm wearing like a latex in her
Speaker 2: shelfheit and it's just like funny to go for my
Speaker 2: church close.
Speaker 1: To that, you know, now, is this something that you
Speaker 1: have always been been interested in?
Speaker 2: No? So kind of. Actually it's complicated because I was
Speaker 2: in a relationship for a really long time, so I
Speaker 2: didn't get to explore my sexuality. And then when I
Speaker 2: broke up with him, I was like, fuck it, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna try everything, and I went a little crazy, but
Speaker 2: we dialed it back in and now we're going to
Speaker 2: like safe events and safe things, and we're doing that
Speaker 2: to just like explore. So I have not done this before,
Speaker 2: leased not to this capacity, and it is new for me.
Speaker 1: Now when you say when you say you the way
Speaker 1: you said safe things, like were you going to stuff
Speaker 1: that was unsafe? And if so, what made it unsafe? Oh?
Speaker 3: God?
Speaker 2: Okay, So like last summer, I decided because we broke
Speaker 2: up to like about a year and a half two
Speaker 2: years ago, and I was like, oh, I'm going to
Speaker 2: meet up with every dude on Tinder ever and I didn't.
Speaker 2: Actually like, it's complicated about that because I didn't wind
Speaker 2: up sweeping around as much as I wanted to. But
Speaker 2: I did try to go to a couple people's houses
Speaker 2: about telling anybody where I was going, and without having
Speaker 2: talked to them for more than like an hour. And
Speaker 2: there was this one guy that I tried to meet
Speaker 2: up with and I accidentally got super high and I
Speaker 2: didn't go, and then he posted pictures with his gun
Speaker 2: on staff chat like a week later. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh god, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: Watch there there goes. Yeah, once again to the rescue.
Speaker 2: Honestly, yeah, it saved my life a few times.
Speaker 1: But okay, so you uh so, I guess so you
Speaker 1: broke up with this guy and you were like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just meet up with every dude from tender ever
Speaker 1: and that was your version of a of an unsafe environment.
Speaker 2: And I did. Sorry, I actually I did wind up
Speaker 2: going to This is a little bit more recently, but
Speaker 2: I went to some concert recently and I was gonna
Speaker 2: go by myself if my friends didn't push me. But
Speaker 2: it was just at someone's house, Like I didn't know
Speaker 2: where I was going, and I didn't want to tell
Speaker 2: anybody where I was going, and I was just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna show up at this random person's house
Speaker 2: by myself and I'm just gonna vibe. And to me,
Speaker 2: as like an asad person, that seems pretty unsafe. So
Speaker 2: there were there were events that I went to where
Speaker 2: I should have been telling someone where I was going.
Speaker 1: Well, well, I mean was it's uh I mean when
Speaker 1: you say it was at a guy's house, like it
Speaker 1: was like a house show, like a like one of
Speaker 1: those DIY punk shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was really cool. But I did
Speaker 2: get hurt in the last bit, and if I had
Speaker 2: been alone, I could have gotten like seriously hurt.
Speaker 1: So now, how did you start getting into these uh,
Speaker 1: these these more I guess official events.
Speaker 2: So I have a friend who was working as a
Speaker 2: stripper for a little bit, and he was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you should do this, that and the other with me,
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, fuck it, I'm gonna know.
Speaker 2: And and I guess when he was a striper, he
Speaker 2: wound up getting all his stripper friends were telling him like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, there's these different events you can go too,
Speaker 2: and so he wound up pulling them on Instagram and
Speaker 2: he showed them to me, and then that's how I
Speaker 2: wound up getting involved.
Speaker 1: And how many how many of these events have you
Speaker 1: been to so far?
Speaker 2: Oh god, I've been to so many. I've been to
Speaker 2: mostly his shows. So I went to like I want
Speaker 2: to say, like seven or eight of his shows, and
Speaker 2: then I've been to two or three like kinky clubs,
Speaker 2: and they're all like different pop ups, so those are
Speaker 2: pretty cool. But this is the first time I've run
Speaker 2: on one this big, which is really exciting.
Speaker 1: And is this Are these events adding joy and value
Speaker 1: into your life?
Speaker 2: I think that adding human experience, Like it sounds so crazy,
Speaker 2: like maybe there's joy, maybe there's not. I really don't know,
Speaker 2: but I really love trying new things and going out
Speaker 2: and doing new things. Like today, I just felt a
Speaker 2: breeze in my body and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: it's like I'm a human. I getting to experience human
Speaker 2: things and this is part of that, you know, So
Speaker 2: I would say yes, but also not.
Speaker 1: Directly, you know, it is interesting, so like fundamental to
Speaker 1: the human experience, like one of the most fundamental things
Speaker 1: to the human experience, and yet consistently relegated to a
Speaker 1: domain of shame.
Speaker 2: Exactly. And I think about that probably a lot more
Speaker 2: than I should. And so like when I first became single,
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to talk to every sex
Speaker 2: positive friend that I know, and when she's gonna get
Speaker 2: like different perspectives, I was so scared to like I
Speaker 2: don't know, just like explore that side of myself and
Speaker 2: talk to people about it and be open.
Speaker 1: You know, what did you learn from talking to your friends?
Speaker 2: Oh? I think the biggest thing is that like everyone
Speaker 2: has a really different perspective on sex, because like I
Speaker 2: talked to a few of my friends that are like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: you've got to save it for the right person whom
Speaker 2: you're in love with. And then I have this other
Speaker 2: friend that I talked to who like he was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just have he I think he's had sex with
Speaker 2: like two hundred r hundred people something crazy like that,
Speaker 2: and not to fund shame, it's just not normal, you know.
Speaker 2: And he was like, Yeah, sex is just the thing
Speaker 2: people do and it's fine. And I was like, you
Speaker 2: know what, that's cool, and so like I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm still to find my relationship with it, and I
Speaker 2: think it's exciting to get different perspectives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, you know, I I've been seeing a lot
Speaker 3: of this these like TikTok videos of of like people
Speaker 3: talking who are very like anti porn and anti sex
Speaker 3: work and OnlyFans and stuff, and like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like they're with all this stuff. I
Speaker 1: don't feel like there is a right answer, you know,
Speaker 1: or right or wrong. It's just like we were lucky
Speaker 1: enough to live in a world where you get to
Speaker 1: make your own decisions inform your own opinions about it.
Speaker 1: And so for some people they're like, you know, I've
Speaker 1: had sex with three hundred people and whatever, it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything to me. And then for other people they
Speaker 1: would be, you know, horrified by that. And then for
Speaker 1: other people it's like, you know, just one partner for
Speaker 1: my entire life, and everyone hopefully gets to do whatever
Speaker 1: they want without infringing on other people's ability to do
Speaker 1: whatever they want as well.
Speaker 2: One hundred and like, I think it's really exciting to
Speaker 2: get to explore those perspective, Like, I don't think I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I don't think I could see myself like having three
Speaker 2: hundred sexual partners. I think for me, it's still kind
Speaker 2: of an intimate and personal thing. And I think that's
Speaker 2: why it's exciting to get to go to shows like
Speaker 2: this right where I can like kind of explore my
Speaker 2: sexuality and be a sexual person and express that to
Speaker 2: the people around me without feeling the need to sleep
Speaker 2: with a bunch of people and also to like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, just like get to again. It's it's still
Speaker 2: as expression part of it that I really want to
Speaker 2: get into the universe without sleeping around.
Speaker 1: What's the what's the Christian deal? Are you Christian?
Speaker 2: Oh? So I was raised Christian and then I did
Speaker 2: this guy who was atheist for a long time, and
Speaker 2: he was really like one of those atheists that was
Speaker 2: like everyone's atheists are your stupid? And I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: this was weird. Anyway, he kind of made me move
Speaker 2: away from the faith and I wouldn't consider myself religious
Speaker 2: sinning is now, I'm definitely agnostic, but I've been working
Speaker 2: on healing my relationship with Christianity whether or not I
Speaker 2: decide to be Christian with this job. So no, I'm
Speaker 2: not religious, but I have a large amount of respect
Speaker 2: for it, and this particular place that I work is
Speaker 2: really they do a lot of good things for the community,
Speaker 2: and I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: What do you exactly do for them?
Speaker 2: I do a lot of things for them. I really
Speaker 2: don't want to dox myself right now, but I do
Speaker 2: a lot of their creative stuff.
Speaker 1: I should I could say what kind of creative stuff,
Speaker 1: like it's.
Speaker 2: Any creative management.
Speaker 1: I do that, Okay, I like, do you like run
Speaker 1: their Instagram or something? What would I mean? You don't
Speaker 1: have to talk about what anything you don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about, But what kind of creative things are they doing?
Speaker 2: All sorts of things. I help with, presentations, I help
Speaker 2: with I do help with social media. That's most of
Speaker 2: what I do. I do a lot of like graphic
Speaker 2: design for them, and I really like doing that. Like,
Speaker 2: I am so grateful to have this job because I
Speaker 2: work two jobs. I go to school full time, and
Speaker 2: I like, I like this job a lot.
Speaker 1: Would you ever hide a big penis in a folder
Speaker 1: somewhere and on a flyer like somewhere like industry.
Speaker 2: You know it's probably not, But where I would hide
Speaker 2: it is in my office somewhere. I would hide it
Speaker 2: in my office or whoever comes next, you know what
Speaker 2: I might. Now that you said, that's.
Speaker 1: That's not a good idea, I mean it is fun though.
Speaker 2: Well, I actually did something similar to my old food
Speaker 2: service jobs because I worked in food service for a
Speaker 2: long time. I did that's like five five or six years.
Speaker 2: And when I did that and the couple of stores closed,
Speaker 2: not finding fault other than Brent going up, I hid
Speaker 2: like little drawings of things around the store for the
Speaker 2: new managers to find, and it would be like I'd
Speaker 2: label them X out of six and I would only
Speaker 2: put five drawings in the store. Three jobs.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen this thing of how somebody hid
Speaker 1: a penis on the cover of the Little Mermaid VHS no,
Speaker 1: google it, Yeah, somebody hid a penis. They had to
Speaker 1: like recall of this. I don't know if this is true.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, actually I have seen this. I have seen
Speaker 2: this that thought a long time ago when I was
Speaker 2: like I think I was like fifteen when I saw this.
Speaker 2: That's why it didn't click.
Speaker 1: Now, what's your ultimate goal? What do you want to
Speaker 1: do with your life?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, that's that's a great question, because I've been
Speaker 2: trying to figure that out because at first I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I want to get married and have a
Speaker 2: good husband or wife I don't know, and like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to be happy in that my love life.
Speaker 2: And then my love life fell apart and I was like, shoot,
Speaker 2: well now I really have to focus in on my art.
Speaker 2: And so I think my ultimate goal is just to
Speaker 2: I don't keep trying new things and keep whether that
Speaker 2: be like this type of thing or artistic things, or
Speaker 2: I also want to meet as many people as I can.
Speaker 2: I love talking to new people.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, do you.
Speaker 1: Meet Is there a strong community aspect to this sex
Speaker 1: dungeon thing? Are you meeting a lot of friends there?
Speaker 2: So I'm going with my friend who is no longer
Speaker 2: a stripper, and then he invited one of his friends
Speaker 2: and I'm excited to meet her. And there's lots of
Speaker 2: people there. From what I can tell, the first general
Speaker 2: admission sold out, and then the VIP did not, so
Speaker 2: I almost had to get VIP of.
Speaker 1: Well how much how much it cost to get in?
Speaker 2: Well, my ticket was a little over one hundred dollars
Speaker 2: and my outfit was about Yeah, my outfit was probably
Speaker 2: about oh god, the two fifty and and then you
Speaker 2: buy drinks and so there's even more in the drinks
Speaker 2: aspect of it. You know, I gotta find my booty shorts.
Speaker 1: That is a that's an expensive sex dungeon. Geez? What
Speaker 1: is though? Is it just like is it just a
Speaker 1: show or like people walk around and like fuck each
Speaker 1: other afterwards?
Speaker 2: Oh god, I wish no, It's it's just a club
Speaker 2: like it's a club environment, I think. And then they
Speaker 2: have they do have like a I'm as far as
Speaker 2: I can tell, they have a show and it is
Speaker 2: someone getting tied up on stage and it's actually really cool.
Speaker 2: I followed them on Instagram. They're super cool. They've gotten
Speaker 2: banned a couple of times. I followed their new accounts
Speaker 2: and there's drinks and mingling, and I think there's a
Speaker 2: spanking floor. I don't know if I can get to
Speaker 2: the thanking for I did I did see Okay, actually
Speaker 2: I did go to one of these events before, and
Speaker 2: I did see some guy. I don't want to yuck
Speaker 2: anybody young, and I totally respect what he's in two
Speaker 2: but he was getting kicked in the balls over and
Speaker 2: over again, and it was mildly amusing because I just
Speaker 2: wasn't expecting it. And that was the first one that.
Speaker 1: I went to, Oh, I I want you to I
Speaker 1: want you to know something. I want you to know something.
Speaker 1: You saying you don't yuck. This guy's young. You you preferencing,
Speaker 1: you laughing at that guy who gets kicked in the
Speaker 1: balls for sexual pleasure. I want to give him. I
Speaker 1: want to give him some credit because he knows that
Speaker 1: that's funny.
Speaker 2: How does he figure this out? That's what I want
Speaker 2: to know. Apparently he's notorious in my local area. So
Speaker 2: I was talking to a friend about it, one of
Speaker 2: the friends, because I talked to a few friends about sex,
Speaker 2: and they have sleft with like two or three hundred people,
Speaker 2: and I was like, Hey, I went to this kinky
Speaker 2: club and I saw this guy getting kicked in the balls.
Speaker 2: How funny, Like it was just weird. And my friend
Speaker 2: was like, oh, it told up a fucking picture of
Speaker 2: the guy on their phone and goes, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 2: him on tender. He's the only guy into that in
Speaker 2: this area. And I was like, what the hell are
Speaker 2: you talking about? Anyways, that was crazy. That was fun.
Speaker 1: You know, I always it's five to talk to people
Speaker 1: about this kind of stuff before. I'm not I'm a
Speaker 1: pretty vanilla guy. I'm not a big like uh uh,
Speaker 1: you know, beat the shit out of me or kick
Speaker 1: me in the balls, or piss in my mouth or
Speaker 1: let me piss in yours kind of a guy. I
Speaker 1: wish that was though, because I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: my uh potential for sexual pleasure has a it really
Speaker 1: it's really got a ceiling on it, you know, whereas
Speaker 1: like guy getting kicked the balls, he's like in the
Speaker 1: eighth dimension, I'll never experience what that's like.
Speaker 2: I feel like I kind of agree, and I think
Speaker 2: that's also why I'm going to things, because like, I know,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that I'm going to this DS and
Speaker 2: kink party of getting walked around in the leash, but
Speaker 2: I've never I've actually never had sex in a BDSM way.
Speaker 2: I've never my ex dexys this for like, god, almost
Speaker 2: long long ass time, we never tried anything kinky. I
Speaker 2: mean the Pregulus thing, it was like public stuff. But
Speaker 2: you know what, maybe I shouldn't say that on a podcast,
Speaker 2: but too late.
Speaker 1: So before we go, what's the like, what is there?
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to get as specific or
Speaker 1: general as you want, but what's the thing you're most
Speaker 1: excited to do? It says here You're walked around on
Speaker 1: a leash.
Speaker 2: That is absolutely what I'm the most excited about, because
Speaker 2: I've wanted to try that type of thing before, and
Speaker 2: like the humiliation stuff, I think it is really really
Speaker 2: fun and it's super embarrassing, but also like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I've always been kind of into it and so I'm
Speaker 2: excited to have that opportunity, especially with a hot girl.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want to know. I want to know.
Speaker 1: I want to go ahead, Fisher, you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Say, Oh, I'm gonna say, I'm still only looking to
Speaker 2: make friends. Oh, she's so hot.
Speaker 1: She is.
Speaker 2: I'm just excited to have fun with the friends.
Speaker 1: So you know, what do you want to know if
Speaker 1: you went to the confessional and you told the pan
Speaker 1: I love getting walked on in this sex dungeon. I
Speaker 1: love getting shown around on a leash. I love this
Speaker 1: crazy BDSM sex stuff. But I don't know if it
Speaker 1: aligns with the religious institutions that I have aligned with.
Speaker 1: What do you think he would say? I'm just knowing
Speaker 1: priests and knowing you and your life. What do you
Speaker 1: think he would say?
Speaker 2: So that's a great question because one time I went
Speaker 2: into his office and I saw a book about sex
Speaker 2: on the table. It was something like Priesthood and Sex,
Speaker 2: Everything you need to know, And I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take a picture of that and get my idea
Speaker 2: of what he thinks about it. So I'm not just like.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: They're pretty accepting it is this point, and I think them.
Speaker 2: Being accepting means that they won't. I don't think they'll
Speaker 2: have a problem with it. I really don't. I do
Speaker 2: think they might not want me representing them if I'm
Speaker 2: talking about it, but that's a little bit different.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm not posting nude photos of myself online.
Speaker 1: So all right, Well, I'm definitely going to go to
Speaker 1: Kindle and search for Priesthood and Sex and read at
Speaker 1: least the first couple pages of that book, because it
Speaker 1: sounds very interesting. What did you did you read any
Speaker 1: of it?
Speaker 2: No? I just took a picture of it. This was
Speaker 2: relatively recently, so I didn't get a chance to. I'm
Speaker 2: really busy, so it's like hard to do the things.
Speaker 1: Yes, sounds like you have a very very busy schedule.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I am going to see you in La.
Speaker 1: Oh you're coming to see me in La.
Speaker 2: I'm coming to see you in La. I'm so excited
Speaker 2: about it. I'm leaving class early to come to see you.
Speaker 2: It's not your fault. I just wanted to I would
Speaker 2: do it anyways, but I'm very excited about it.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Well, thank thank you, Matt. Well are you were
Speaker 1: going to say maybe you want to come talk about
Speaker 1: this on stage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we'll see. We'll see for sure when when
Speaker 2: the time comes.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I feel like we've I feel
Speaker 1: like I've talked to somebody on stage once about this.
Speaker 1: I talked about Dominatrix in London. That was pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: They came on siring all this like spiky gear and stuff.
Speaker 1: I was afraid that they were going to poke my
Speaker 1: eye out with it, so I moved to the chairs
Speaker 1: back a little bit. But uh, aman, there's anything else
Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer
Speaker 1: before we go?
Speaker 2: Stred Love not hate, and uh do what's best for you.
Speaker 2: So thank you. Have a good night, guys.
Speaker 1: Thanks Amanda, have a good one. Yeah. I should have
Speaker 1: asked what the club was, you know, just for research purposes.
Speaker 1: Actually I was in. I was in uh Poor. I
Speaker 1: did a show in Portland recently and somebody came on
Speaker 1: stage and talked about uh we know. It wasn't Importland.
Speaker 1: It was san Fran. Yeah, I was. I was just
Speaker 1: showing san Fran and somebody came on stage and talked
Speaker 1: about his experience going to one of those dungeons. I've
Speaker 1: never been. I kind of feel like it would be
Speaker 1: an interesting thing to check out. And I actually I
Speaker 1: told I told him that on stage and he was like,
Speaker 1: you should come, you know, wearing the gecko suit, And
Speaker 1: I said, uh, I feel like that would draw the
Speaker 1: attention of a certain demographic, not necessarily, you know, a
Speaker 1: general one.
Speaker 4: All right, next call Hardy howdy?
Speaker 1: He's going, Yes, sir, is this Uh pork? That's a
Speaker 1: great fake name. I love that pork. What's going on?
Speaker 4: You know, just living the dreams? Sometimes it's someone else's dream,
Speaker 4: but we're out here living. But yeah, but how are you?
Speaker 4: It's so nice to hear your lovely voice.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's good to hear yours too, Man, what does
Speaker 1: pork come from? Where does? Where'd you come up with
Speaker 1: that name?
Speaker 4: So my entire life have been called pork chop by
Speaker 4: all my homies. I have friends whose parents don't even
Speaker 4: know my real name. They've known me for decades and
Speaker 4: it's just pork chops. So there's not really an origin
Speaker 4: story behind it, just pork.
Speaker 1: Well, pork. It says here that you called in because
Speaker 1: you uh you say. It says here you lost your
Speaker 1: girlfriend to do to drugs and pro institution and you
Speaker 1: want to talk about that?
Speaker 4: I mean yeah. You know, I don't really talk to
Speaker 4: many people about it because it's kind of obviously on
Speaker 4: the more embarrassing side. But I guess, I guess you
Speaker 4: could say my whole life, I've had a bit of
Speaker 4: an issue with impulse control, whether that be like spending
Speaker 4: money like an ass, just wanting to get things done
Speaker 4: as soon as possible, getting as high as I can
Speaker 4: as quick as I can with no issues. For a
Speaker 4: while there, I was using pharmaceuticals like a lot of
Speaker 4: people our age tend to do, and I had an
Speaker 4: amazing girlfriend who gave me everything I wanted. It was
Speaker 4: never hard on me about doing drugs, and I think
Speaker 4: it got to the point to where I let, I
Speaker 4: guess you could say, sexual urges get the best of me,
Speaker 4: and like I was saying, with the impulse control. Around
Speaker 4: last year, around Christmas time, when I got my Christmas
Speaker 4: bonus from work, I did a little bit of a quick,
Speaker 4: provocative wrong thinking and I slept with a lady of
Speaker 4: the evening, and to make it worse as the time
Speaker 4: went on. Within the coming months afterwards, I did it again.
Speaker 4: And you know, I love my girl. I know how
Speaker 4: you feel about people going through each other's phones. I've
Speaker 4: never been one to hide things, so I never really cared,
Speaker 4: but I never deleted any any proof of what I did.
Speaker 4: And she found out, and you know, I broke her
Speaker 4: trust and whatnot. But she stuck around for a little bit,
Speaker 4: and now it's to the point to where she's in
Speaker 4: my life bare minimum, I guess more or less because
Speaker 4: she gets worried about me. But I think I'm just
Speaker 4: having a lot of troubles with dealing with being by
Speaker 4: myself again, like more than normal. And I can't care
Speaker 4: to put my finger on it, like how to feel,
Speaker 4: because there's a whole lot of guilt. There's a lot
Speaker 4: of like obviously sad because we're not together, but I
Speaker 4: think I'm angry at myself and obviously you can only
Speaker 4: go up if you're so down low. But you get
Speaker 4: what I mean, I hope for.
Speaker 1: Now. Okay, So you didn't tell her you were going
Speaker 1: to see the prostitutes. It was a sneaky visit.
Speaker 4: Of course. It was like, oh, I have the money,
Speaker 4: I'm on the internet. I used to work at a
Speaker 4: gas station out by the airport in Saint Louis, and
Speaker 4: there's a lot of ladies of the evening that would
Speaker 4: be frequent there. So I've never in my life ever
Speaker 4: known where you go to look for that kind of
Speaker 4: thing other than just someone asking you on the street
Speaker 4: corner like in the movies. But I learned learned about
Speaker 4: this magical website where there it was a Schmortas board
Speaker 4: of very less than i'd call beautiful women offering themselves up.
Speaker 4: And it's always kind of been in the back of
Speaker 4: my head. I'm a lonely man, you know, it's very
Speaker 4: rare that a woman comes around in my life that
Speaker 4: I really feel like is either worth the time or
Speaker 4: there really about me. So, you know, I never really
Speaker 4: thought about it. But then I guess I almost want
Speaker 4: to say it was cockiness, like I have everything I
Speaker 4: want right now. I got money, I got my own place,
Speaker 4: I got a beautiful girl, Like what else would someone
Speaker 4: with not I'm not trying to say I'm made of money,
Speaker 4: but what else do I do with this extra money?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? And I let my second
Speaker 4: head do the thinking, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So how long ago was it that you your girlfriend
Speaker 1: found out about this?
Speaker 4: This was like and this is going to make me
Speaker 4: sound horrible, I'm just saying it. Throwing it out there.
Speaker 4: It was like directly after Christmas, like right before Christmas,
Speaker 4: so like Christmas we didn't go to yeah, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when she found out when you now the
Speaker 1: way you phrased it, where you were like, she's still
Speaker 1: around because she cares about you. Does that you guys
Speaker 1: are not still too dating, are you? But you are
Speaker 1: in each other?
Speaker 4: We we were for a while there and you know,
Speaker 4: uh there she told me when we kind of got
Speaker 4: back together that it's going to be hard for her.
Speaker 4: She's gonna have nights where it's going to be something
Speaker 4: all she can think about. It's going to be nights
Speaker 4: where she's going to be able to brush it off.
Speaker 4: But it just kept feeling like, and this isn't something
Speaker 4: I guess you could say maybe part of me would
Speaker 4: get annoyed with it, but not annoyed, but just like
Speaker 4: I wish you would just stop. But there are the
Speaker 4: nights where she would be really thinking about it just
Speaker 4: kept going and it did never stop. And it kind
Speaker 4: of got to the point to where she just, you know,
Speaker 4: even though everything was kind of going good for the
Speaker 4: last few weeks, she just kind of was like, I can't,
Speaker 4: like I can't get it out of my head. I
Speaker 4: don't I can't not like think about it now. The
Speaker 4: thing is, even though she'll tell me that and she
Speaker 4: doesn't want nothing to do with me, we still have
Speaker 4: those moments where she's like, I miss you. I can't
Speaker 4: not be around you. So like we'll spend the night together.
Speaker 4: And it's not purely like sexual based or anything. It's
Speaker 4: just we do have love for each other in our
Speaker 4: heart and it's like we still enjoy the comfort.
Speaker 1: How long were you guys together?
Speaker 4: For less than a year? So that's something that I
Speaker 4: try to remind myself. I guess whenever I get down
Speaker 4: about it. But it was definitely less than a year,
Speaker 4: like months, not like even close to a year. It's
Speaker 4: coming up on a year if we were still together.
Speaker 1: So are you? Are you still going out? And how
Speaker 1: are you now with the drugs and the prostitutes as
Speaker 1: of today?
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. When I get into bad headspaces,
Speaker 4: I do kind of self indulge. I definitely like there
Speaker 4: was a point in my life where I would go
Speaker 4: out of my way to eat like fake xanax, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Nowadays, I know why I probably
Speaker 4: drink a little bit more than I ever have never
Speaker 4: been a drinker. I don't really I'm not the kind
Speaker 4: of person to go looking for drugs because you can't
Speaker 4: trust drugs nowadays. But like, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 4: really like I wouldn't say I'm actively looking for drugs
Speaker 4: to try to soothe this, because it's not I know,
Speaker 4: it's not going to get me anywhere further. I just
Speaker 4: like I I've been one of those things where like
Speaker 4: I kind of look back and looked at everything that
Speaker 4: I just did, and I've just been kind of grossed
Speaker 4: out by it, if that makes sense. Like I don't
Speaker 4: like who I am. I don't like when I became.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the the impulsiveness.
Speaker 4: Like so old you are, Yeah, I'm twenty six, just
Speaker 4: turn twenty six.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're around the same age. Has the impulsiveness been
Speaker 1: a thing in your life for a while?
Speaker 4: My whole life, my whole life, and even to like
Speaker 4: when I say like my whole life, I mean like
Speaker 4: small things like this is going to sound spoiled, rotten,
Speaker 4: little shit of me, but like my I was an
Speaker 4: only child growing up, so like, you know, if I
Speaker 4: wanted this, I wanted that I would throw a temper
Speaker 4: tantrum to my mom gave me a list of chores
Speaker 4: so I can get what I wanted. If like, I'm
Speaker 4: driving the car somewhere to get somewhere. It's not that
Speaker 4: I have road rage, but like, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: I need to get the hell around this car to
Speaker 4: get where I'm going. When I only have like two
Speaker 4: hundred bucks left in my account. As long as my
Speaker 4: bills are paid and Mike, screw it, I'm going to
Speaker 4: go buy the biggest bag of weed and then, like
Speaker 4: you know, and this is funny because I've heard about
Speaker 4: this on another stream, I'll go do the whole door
Speaker 4: dash instacart, you know, snagging some food low key for free,
Speaker 4: doing that whole scam from time to time. And that's
Speaker 4: like how I eat, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 4: I've kind of a dirt bag whenever you think of it,
Speaker 4: in a lot of aspects. I haven't really done as
Speaker 4: much growing up as I felt like I need to.
Speaker 4: And now I'm at a point to where I feel
Speaker 4: like I need to start growing up being a grown man.
Speaker 4: But I don't really like I have a good job.
Speaker 4: I don't know where to go from here, you know,
Speaker 4: what I mean, I'm kind of feel like I'm at
Speaker 4: a stuck pace.
Speaker 1: Let's talk real quick. So this whole thing happening with
Speaker 1: your girlfriends and it's it's okay if if not, like,
Speaker 1: did did it catalyze any desire or like actions towards
Speaker 1: any change for you?
Speaker 4: Any change?
Speaker 1: What like? Did it did it catalyze a stronger desire
Speaker 1: for you to like change your behavior work on your impulsiveness?
Speaker 4: Yes. At first, when she called me the first time
Speaker 4: she found out. The first time, I definitely was feeling
Speaker 4: bad about it. I'm like, oh, I need to stop
Speaker 4: being like this. But after the second time, there was
Speaker 4: an large amount of guilt that I felt. Even after
Speaker 4: I'm leaving the place that had happened, I'm like thinking
Speaker 4: to myself, like, this is bad, this is gross. That
Speaker 4: wasn't worth the money I just spent on it. The
Speaker 4: woman wasn't even attractive. And then I sit back and
Speaker 4: I look at it and it's just a whole Yes,
Speaker 4: the answer is yes to your question, but it came
Speaker 4: after the fact, and it's like I'm looking around at
Speaker 4: all the little things about my life that I am
Speaker 4: doing wrong, and it's just kind of piling up now,
Speaker 4: so yes, it definitely had a hard negative effect on
Speaker 4: the way I think about my impulsiveness.
Speaker 1: Okay, so today, let me let me ask you this
Speaker 1: the road ahead for you? Like, what do you what
Speaker 1: do you desire? Like you're unhappy with who you are
Speaker 1: right now? What would a better version of you look
Speaker 1: like for you?
Speaker 4: I think? And this sounds and I hate saying that
Speaker 4: money is a make or break whether or not I'm happy,
Speaker 4: But like the way I spend money in my impulsiveness
Speaker 4: doesn't ever feel right in the moment. I love smoking
Speaker 4: lead and smoking weeds since I was too young to
Speaker 4: be smoking weed, and I'm at the point to where
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I don't have weeds, and I'm not
Speaker 4: going to be feeling good. I want myself to be
Speaker 4: in a place where it's not that I necessarily, you know,
Speaker 4: am I co completely? I'm sober, and you know, I'm
Speaker 4: you know, reading the Bible every day to get myself
Speaker 4: on track. But I just want to kind of appreciate
Speaker 4: myself more because when I get like this and I
Speaker 4: do things that are my own fault, it's like a
Speaker 4: whole lot of hate and on myself. And I can
Speaker 4: sit here all day long and tell you what it
Speaker 4: is that I'm hating about myself. But when it boils
Speaker 4: down to it, what am I going to do to
Speaker 4: change it? You know? Wow, I can't give you gone?
Speaker 1: Have you?
Speaker 2: Have you?
Speaker 1: I'm down to talk to you more about this. But
Speaker 1: is this something you've talked to about a real Uh?
Speaker 1: Is this something you've talked to a real therapist about?
Speaker 4: Yes? Yes, I'm getting into it.
Speaker 1: I what did they tell you?
Speaker 2: Go on?
Speaker 4: They're the The gentleman I'm speaking with is very old
Speaker 4: school to the book, and he's just like, oh, you
Speaker 4: alienate yourself from your girlfriend and leave leave that beat,
Speaker 4: because that's the past. You can't go past from that.
Speaker 4: But he's also very like, oh, you need to go
Speaker 4: to bed on time. You need to try to set
Speaker 4: more healthier schedules and routines for yourself, and you know,
Speaker 4: like the most cliche things you could hear. And it's
Speaker 4: not that I'm not saying that with unreceptiveness, because like
Speaker 4: getting up in the morning, making sure my laundry is done,
Speaker 4: going to work on time every day has literally been
Speaker 4: the only thing keeping me going. So like, yes, I
Speaker 4: can agree to it to an extent, but when it
Speaker 4: boils down to it. It's like, I don't really I
Speaker 4: just feel like I'm kind of like everyone else and
Speaker 4: I'm kind of just like stuck in this this this
Speaker 4: this midway of my life, and I don't know my
Speaker 4: next step. I don't feel that I have much talent,
Speaker 4: and I feel like the few things that they get
Speaker 4: going for me that are good, or the one thing
Speaker 4: that I had going for me was this amazing girl
Speaker 4: that I could have gone the rest of my life with.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Let me let me let me a few things.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 1: I laughed when you said that your therapist was by
Speaker 1: the books and was telling you to uh go to
Speaker 1: sleep on time and do your laundry and stuff. I
Speaker 1: laughed because, uh, dude, I went to see a therapist,
Speaker 1: talked to him about a whole bunch of stuff, and
Speaker 1: he fucking told me the exact same stuff. He was like,
Speaker 1: I swear to God, the same thing happened to me. Dude.
Speaker 1: He was like, he was like, you gotta go to sleep.
Speaker 1: He was like, he was like, are you eating healthy?
Speaker 1: I was like not at all. He's like, are you exciting?
Speaker 1: I was like not all. He's like, are you sleeping?
Speaker 1: I was like not at all. And he's like, well,
Speaker 1: you got to do these things, and and I kind
Speaker 1: of was like I was I was a little bit
Speaker 1: back and forth on it because I was like, do
Speaker 1: you not have anything else more esoteric to tell me?
Speaker 1: But also but but also, well, fucking shit, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: maybe doing all those things would solve a lot of
Speaker 1: my problems. And to tell you, by the way, to
Speaker 1: tell you, I've done none of those things. I'm still
Speaker 1: I'm still very unhealthy, and I have more things I
Speaker 1: want to say about your situation, But first, do you
Speaker 1: did you do those things that he told you to do?
Speaker 4: As much as I can. I've been doing my laundry.
Speaker 4: My room has probably been the cleanest beIN it's been
Speaker 4: since I was a child. I go to work every day.
Speaker 4: I don't be calling off anymore. I don't go to
Speaker 4: work every morning with uh all this is gonna fucking suck.
Speaker 4: I go to work with at least you're getting your
Speaker 4: job done. I The sleep thing has actually been kind
Speaker 4: of bad. I've been having a little bit of trouble
Speaker 4: sleeping and keep having that nightmares. But like I keep
Speaker 4: having dreams that like I can't help or save my
Speaker 4: ex or that like, I'm in a really uncomfortable situation
Speaker 4: that has nothing to do with my life.
Speaker 1: I want to say. I want to say a few
Speaker 1: a few more things too. First of all, I think,
Speaker 1: and I'm a hypocrite for telling you to do this
Speaker 1: because I you haven't done it, but you should listen
Speaker 1: to your therapist, and like, don't I wouldn't rebuff. Don't
Speaker 1: rebuff what he's telling you. I'm speaking to myself. Don't
Speaker 1: rebuff what he's telling you until you've actually done it,
Speaker 1: because chances are it will make you feel a lot better.
Speaker 1: And then second thing is like the way that you
Speaker 1: just just the way that you told me I don't
Speaker 1: have anything going for me except for for my girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Is like, and I've said this a bunch of times
Speaker 1: and I've thought really hard about it, is like if
Speaker 1: the only thing keeping you in business upstairs in your
Speaker 1: brain is like a relationship, you know, you're you're fucking yourself, man. Like,
Speaker 1: you got to have things in your in your life
Speaker 1: that you that are just with that are within you,
Speaker 1: that are making you feel confident and happy. And I
Speaker 1: know that you're just beating the ship out of yourself
Speaker 1: because you feel guilty about the way that you've been
Speaker 1: in the past, and you but you're bro like we're
Speaker 1: young guys.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: You you you don't. You have several more decades of
Speaker 1: life ahead of you, and I hope you realize that.
Speaker 1: I hope you think about it every day. You have
Speaker 1: several more decades of life ahead of you in which
Speaker 1: to work on being the kind of person you want
Speaker 1: to be. And even though it feels good to just
Speaker 1: beat the ship out of yourself, you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: there if you keep doing that. So I I understand
Speaker 1: the natural impulse of beating the ship at yourself, like
Speaker 1: I do it too, But I just hope you understand
Speaker 1: that you're not gonna that's a it's a it's a
Speaker 1: bottomless hole. It's a bottomless, unproductive hole to just keep
Speaker 1: beating the ship. I think there's a lot to be
Speaker 1: said in thinking deeply about what you've done and and
Speaker 1: and the than you've been in the past and analyzing
Speaker 1: those things in a productive way to make sure that
Speaker 1: you don't do them in the future. But like it,
Speaker 1: do it productively, you know, I acknowledge the things that
Speaker 1: you did wrong, and acknowledge the things about yourself that
Speaker 1: you don't like. And then instead of just gathering it
Speaker 1: as information to build a case against yourself of how
Speaker 1: much of a piece of shit you are, gather it
Speaker 1: as as information to help you move forward. Because you're
Speaker 1: only You're a young guy. You shouldn't just throw yourself
Speaker 1: away like that, and your therapist telling you to alienate
Speaker 1: yourself from the girl. I don't know. I don't want
Speaker 1: to tell you what to do or what not to do,
Speaker 1: but it does kind of sound like for both of
Speaker 1: your guys' sake, that's not the worst idea. Probably bad, yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't look like But dude, don't look at it like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've lost the only thing in my life that will
Speaker 1: ever matter to me ever, because I'm such a piece
Speaker 1: of shit. You you can do somebody things, You can
Speaker 1: do so many things. What what is your what's your job?
Speaker 1: Right now? You said you have a high paying job.
Speaker 1: What's your job?
Speaker 4: You literally talked to somebody who does this before, and
Speaker 4: you hated the phone call. It's I killed bugs for
Speaker 4: a living, but I promised I don't care about the
Speaker 4: environment as hard as he does.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I didn't hate him because he
Speaker 1: cared about the environment. I hated him, I think because
Speaker 1: I was trying.
Speaker 4: To you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: He was, Okay, do you what do you outside? What
Speaker 1: do you want to do with your life?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: Like? What? What?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Excitement?
Speaker 4: Fly that? When I when I was younger, I wanted
Speaker 4: to and it sounds so, you know, postmillennial of me,
Speaker 4: but I wanted to make a clothing rand when I
Speaker 4: was younger. I also when I was in high school,
Speaker 4: I wanted to do computers. But right out of high
Speaker 4: that was like I decided I was like the main
Speaker 4: thing I wanted to do, and right out of high
Speaker 4: school I got all these certifications, but then I fucked
Speaker 4: off for three years. And then as soon as I
Speaker 4: went back to try to get back into computers, things
Speaker 4: change so rapidly that it's like, wow, I have to
Speaker 4: kind of start from the drawing board. And then on
Speaker 4: top of that, I've worked in office jobs before right
Speaker 4: out of high school, and it's miserable and like I
Speaker 4: sounds like everyone else our age, but like I don't
Speaker 4: know what to do. I collect Pokemon cards like a
Speaker 4: fucking child, and I have the coolest collection Pokemon cards.
Speaker 4: That's a great hobby.
Speaker 1: I bet you do.
Speaker 4: But but I can't sit here and like do anything
Speaker 4: with that. I don't know like what I really want.
Speaker 4: And I think that's hard all on its own. And
Speaker 4: I promise you bringing up on this call, it's not
Speaker 4: something that I kill myself over in my head every day.
Speaker 4: But I definitely like, I feel like I am not lost,
Speaker 4: but you know what I mean, just kind of confused.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your name again?
Speaker 3: Hold on?
Speaker 1: It says it right here? Actually pork Okay, pork, pork, pork.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. I know I'm a I'm a hard one.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no, no, no no. I'm happy
Speaker 1: to be talking about this this right now.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I would first of all, keep seeing the real therapist.
Speaker 1: Don't if it's okay, it's good to analyze the past
Speaker 1: and learn from it, but don't throw it in, don't
Speaker 1: weaponize it against yourself on a daily basis.
Speaker 4: And I think that that that's important. I think out
Speaker 4: of And I know you're probably about to say something else,
Speaker 4: but like I hear that obviously from a lot of people,
Speaker 4: and I know it sounds very sand Boy of me,
Speaker 4: but Lyle I listen to every day at work while
Speaker 4: I kill bugs, and it means a lot to hear
Speaker 4: that from you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I just you should know that I feel
Speaker 1: it's like I'm right there killing the bugs with you,
Speaker 1: and that makes me feel good. I had a ton
Speaker 1: of ants infest my car recently. I deserved that.
Speaker 4: I left. Leave a plate of borax, sugar and water
Speaker 4: on the floor of your cars.
Speaker 1: Leave it there over the place.
Speaker 4: I know it sounds like the bug to get there
Speaker 4: at the place with yeah pork.
Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing I'm I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think in the next two minutes, I'm going to uh
Speaker 1: completely rewire your brain to be more optimistic about your life.
Speaker 1: But that's what I hope for you.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna go into the next
Speaker 4: week just with a smile on my face, and I'm
Speaker 4: going to try my hardest not to beat on myself
Speaker 4: because of this conversation.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, good trying not to be again, trying it
Speaker 1: to beat it on yourself. Try to think about h
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. You said you want to
Speaker 1: start a clothing company. You can do somebody this is
Speaker 1: We're gonna go in circles here. But I just want
Speaker 1: to know you could do so many things. Try to
Speaker 1: do some ship that's not you know, get into another
Speaker 1: relationship that that is beneficial of course to you, and
Speaker 1: try not to, you know, throw yourself out when you're
Speaker 1: still in in in what I believe to be your infancy.
Speaker 4: Okay, I got you. I appreciate you, Lyle.
Speaker 1: All right. Also, are you you're wearing a condom when
Speaker 1: you're having sex with these prostitutes?
Speaker 4: Right? Yes? Whatever said one hundred? In fact, when I did,
Speaker 4: and I would buy a box and I would always
Speaker 4: leave it there for whoever else came, because I don't
Speaker 4: want no one to have no CDs.
Speaker 1: Very gracious of you, the yes, all right, poor see
Speaker 1: other people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 4: I just want to tell the people of the computer
Speaker 4: to buy your merch and don't take for granted what
Speaker 4: you have. And you know, just I haven't read the
Speaker 4: chat once since we've been on the phone. But please
Speaker 4: don't be too mean to eat other people on the phone.
Speaker 1: Uh you know what, pork Uh save save the money
Speaker 1: you would spend on a T shirt and continue to
Speaker 1: go see your real therapist.
Speaker 4: I got your back. While you have a good night,
Speaker 4: all right, man.
Speaker 1: You too, take care you know, I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: about what I think about that whole thing. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm always I'm trying to be fucking optimistic the whole
Speaker 1: here's the thing for that, for that girl's sake, the
Speaker 1: girl that he was seeing. And I belive and I
Speaker 1: by the way, I believe him when he said that
Speaker 1: that girl still has feelings for him, because relationships are
Speaker 1: they're fucking complicated like that. But it does seem as though,
Speaker 1: and again I don't I'm not trying to tell other
Speaker 1: people what to do, but it kind of seems as
Speaker 1: though them spending time away from each other would be
Speaker 1: best for all parties involved. And uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hope he I hope that Pork finds something to
Speaker 1: do that fulfills him. That's why I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have answers for a lot of these things,
Speaker 1: right because you're born, and then you can there's colors
Speaker 1: and sounds, and then you die, and your gift as
Speaker 1: a human being is that well, some of some of
Speaker 1: us are lucky enough to have the agency in life
Speaker 1: to decide what we're going to do, and that can
Speaker 1: be a tough decision to navigate. I don't have the
Speaker 1: answers for it, but you know Pokemon cards isn't a
Speaker 1: bad one.
Speaker 5: Hello.
Speaker 1: Hello, Oh you're doing a bit? No, yeah you are.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing a bit, sir.
Speaker 4: I just want to talk to you about my business.
Speaker 4: I want to see if you think it's a good idea.
Speaker 4: All right, here's a business has told me that she
Speaker 4: and human should be able to be able to be
Speaker 4: brand together.
Speaker 2: I want to have a human and sheep.
Speaker 1: All right, So right now he's talking to himself. I
Speaker 1: put him back in the queue. Let's see if he's still.
Speaker 1: Let's see if hit the talk button again. Hello, brother,
Speaker 1: I haven't left.
Speaker 2: I need to talk about this business with you, all right, human.
Speaker 1: And you're going to do shut up for two seconds?
Speaker 1: Shut up for two seconds? Can I talk to you?
Speaker 1: Let me talk?
Speaker 4: I'm waiting, brother, all right.
Speaker 1: You literally you have two options, because you're doing a
Speaker 1: thing and we could talk. Your options that we could
Speaker 1: talk with you not doing a bit, or we just
Speaker 1: won't talk. Which would you rather do?
Speaker 2: I would rather talk to you about my business of
Speaker 2: having human.
Speaker 4: And cheap hybrids. All right, now, Elon Musk.
Speaker 2: Is investing in this business.
Speaker 4: Yes, Elon musk.
Speaker 2: We will invest in this business.
Speaker 4: Brother, I'm telling you right now, all right now. We've
Speaker 4: got women, we've got men, we've got transgender, We've.
Speaker 2: Got everything up and down the board. But what we
Speaker 2: don't have yet is an animal and human hybrids. Now,
Speaker 2: think about how much we would save on food if
Speaker 2: we have people just eating.
Speaker 5: Weat and hay and b.
Speaker 1: I don't care about this anymore. Let's move on. That
Speaker 1: was a good voice. He could use that voice for
Speaker 1: something better than that. Hello, folks, it is Lyle. I
Speaker 1: just returned back from going all over Europe to do
Speaker 1: live shows. And while I was there, I recorded several
Speaker 1: interviews all around every bunch of different countries on the
Speaker 1: street with people and I said words to those people
Speaker 1: and it was cool, and I hate doing these intros. Basically,
Speaker 1: this next section is a conversation that I had at
Speaker 1: a park in Lisbon, Portugal with two young skater guys
Speaker 1: and it was a really cool conversation and I learned
Speaker 1: a little bit about Portugal and how they feel about
Speaker 1: the US and how they feel about life. And it's
Speaker 1: a nice conversation to round out all the phone calls
Speaker 1: with some real life chit chats. So I hope that
Speaker 1: you guys enjoy it, and if you do, you can
Speaker 1: go to my YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash Lyle
Speaker 1: forever and type in being a gecko in Lisbon, Portugal
Speaker 1: to watch the whole thing. Okay, let's get let's transport
Speaker 1: ourselves right now to the magical land of a park
Speaker 1: in Portugal talking to some guys. Have a seat, sit
Speaker 1: down here. We are here, we are We're here in Lisbon.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 6: Spike? Spike?
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you. Are you a skateboarder? You look
Speaker 1: like a skateboarder.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I am.
Speaker 1: Okay, did you tell what can you do? Can you
Speaker 1: do a tray flip?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: Can you do a kickflip?
Speaker 6: I kind of suck, to be honest.
Speaker 1: You kind of suck. Yeah, okay. How long you've been
Speaker 1: skating for?
Speaker 6: Like seriously for like three years?
Speaker 1: Three years?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay? Nice? What is your dream in life to be
Speaker 1: a professional skateboard person?
Speaker 6: No, I'd like to be like a tattoo artist, a
Speaker 6: tattoo artist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what inspires your tattoo tattooery?
Speaker 6: I don't know if you know like this artist. I
Speaker 6: think she's from Denmark or Germany. She's called what's her name? Damn?
Speaker 6: She has like some really cool drawings.
Speaker 1: Your friend looks so high right now?
Speaker 6: He is kind of high.
Speaker 1: He was very high, okay, cool? Well like Portugal, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean look this is we're here in California
Speaker 1: where it's legal, so that's all good.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, California.
Speaker 1: All right? So, uh what what kinds of stuff have
Speaker 1: you been? Wait? What's the name of the artists?
Speaker 6: Bowser? Yes, I remember, Okay, I know.
Speaker 1: Bowser, but I know a different kind of Bowser from you.
Speaker 1: Probably I'm talking about the turtle guy.
Speaker 6: Uh not not him, the turtle, but he's also pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Is he?
Speaker 6: Your cousin?
Speaker 1: Is Bowser my cousin? That's a going because we both
Speaker 1: look like both green curtles both like. I wish Bowser
Speaker 1: as my cousin. Man, he could get me a he
Speaker 1: could get me in for free to his the Super
Speaker 1: Mario World and Nintendo, but instead I got a you know,
Speaker 1: talk to people. I gotta talk to people Lisbon at
Speaker 1: all times. I wish I was at the Super Mario
Speaker 1: World Universal but instead of in stupid Lisbon talking to
Speaker 1: people about life. That's a good photo. What do you
Speaker 1: think about all day. What are you what are your
Speaker 1: primary thoughts in life?
Speaker 6: Well, it depends on the day, but I think usually
Speaker 6: just getting home and smoking.
Speaker 1: You think about just getting home and smoking. Okay.
Speaker 6: Life in Portugal is pretty tiring.
Speaker 1: Hello, what's up?
Speaker 6: Yo? What's up?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 3: Yo?
Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm going, I'm gonna. What's your name? Yo?
Speaker 6: My name is Soda.
Speaker 1: What do you do? You live here in Portugal? Yes? Oh? Ship?
Speaker 1: What what are you doing here? Music?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 1: While I'm trying nice, I'm talking to people about their
Speaker 1: hopes and dreams.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh you guys know, Yeah, she's my classmate.
Speaker 1: Oh cool? Yeah, oh okay, cool. We're here. We're here
Speaker 1: talking to people in the streets about life. It is
Speaker 1: pretty sick. It is kind of Spike was saying about
Speaker 1: what they What do you talk about? What do you
Speaker 1: think about all day? Getting home, getting home and smoking?
Speaker 1: Do you have any aspirations outside of that though? Do
Speaker 1: you have like stuff you like? Well, you want to
Speaker 1: be a tattoo artist, you said, I like to write?
Speaker 1: And what do you what are you right about? What
Speaker 1: do you usually.
Speaker 6: Melancholic sad boy stuff?
Speaker 1: Melancholic sad boy stuff. What's making you sad?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You don't have to talk about if
Speaker 1: you don't want to, But I don't know. It seems
Speaker 1: I mean, you have you have all these friends you got,
Speaker 1: you know, you you know how to do a kick flip.
Speaker 1: That's pretty great you have. I mean, like, I don't
Speaker 1: know you that, I don't you at all, But just
Speaker 1: from like the two seconds I've been talking to your
Speaker 1: life seems like I mean just I know, obviously things
Speaker 1: are different from how they appear, but you seem like
Speaker 1: you're you're living well.
Speaker 6: Sometimes depends on the day, honestly, how do you know this?
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk? Okay? Say Hi, what's up?
Speaker 1: What's what's what's here? I have a kneel down. I've
Speaker 1: been talked about to you guys. This is cool friendship.
Speaker 1: What what's what's your name?
Speaker 5: I'm said?
Speaker 1: You said, you said you.
Speaker 5: Almost there? Almost there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay cool? What's what should I know about Portugal
Speaker 1: being here?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: I don't know. Portugal is not a country for Portuguese people.
Speaker 7: There is a lot of stranger people and it's difficult
Speaker 7: to us to find Portuguese people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been none of the people I've talked to
Speaker 1: you so far have been. I've been Portuguese, have all been?
Speaker 1: Uh uh from all over the place?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: What's what's your dream in life?
Speaker 5: Being an artist?
Speaker 1: Music artist, being an anarchist? Music music anarchist, because I
Speaker 1: talked to everybody here wants to be an anarchist. Let's
Speaker 1: say music? What kind of music?
Speaker 5: I sing? And I produce and play a bit guitar?
Speaker 1: Do you wrap it all? Hm?
Speaker 4: Do you do you rap?
Speaker 5: It's like irm b I I changed myself before and
Speaker 5: rapping and singing.
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you do? You want to spit anything
Speaker 1: for us? Do you want to sing anything for us?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 7: I have a song of mine, but I don't spike.
Speaker 7: I can show you after the the interview because I
Speaker 7: have it. I'm playing a video clip panting like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool. What's your what's you?
Speaker 2: What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you think about all day?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: What I think about all day?
Speaker 1: What do you think about all day?
Speaker 7: I think a bit of everything, but always about music
Speaker 7: and producing and playing guitar and writing.
Speaker 1: What inspires your music?
Speaker 7: My lifestyle inspribes me a lot because we are in
Speaker 7: a music course and producing a music course in school
Speaker 7: right here in Epy and a lot of already seen
Speaker 7: people and my family are always connected with music. And
Speaker 7: one day when I was said, I listened to music
Speaker 7: of a rapper here in Portugal and his name is Halloween, Alan,
Speaker 7: Halloween you have for me is the greatest of all
Speaker 7: time of your Portugal. But everyone have their opinion. But
Speaker 7: I started crying a lot with the music, with the feeling,
Speaker 7: and then I thinking to myself, I want to be
Speaker 7: a music artist.
Speaker 1: Oh so you want so so this Halloween guy, he
Speaker 1: inspired you, he made you cry, he made you feel emotional,
Speaker 1: and you you liked the way that his music made
Speaker 1: you feel, and you're like, I want to do that
Speaker 1: for other people. I want music that makes people cry. Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta check what do you have a SoundCloud or something.
Speaker 5: I didn't put my song on the roads already because
Speaker 5: I'm doing I was playing. I'm doing a project. It's
Speaker 5: like me and my cousin we sing.
Speaker 4: We have.
Speaker 7: A couple of songs but we didn't release. But the
Speaker 7: people are liking, are really liking. I already posted on
Speaker 7: Instagram and preview of the song, and.
Speaker 5: After the the interview, I can show you if you want.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, hmm, I'm trying to think. One of the questions,
Speaker 1: do you guys have a lot of friends here in Portugal?
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 5: It's like people here in Portugal are always bad in
Speaker 5: a bad mood.
Speaker 1: Really, is that true?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why why are people always in a bad mood?
Speaker 6: We are just I think most people are overworked, at
Speaker 6: least the Portuguese.
Speaker 1: People overworked, so we're really grumpy. And do you guys
Speaker 1: feel overworked?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, of course yeah. And we don't even like
Speaker 6: have a proper job yet, we just go to school.
Speaker 1: Okay, huh what how do how do people? I guess huh, I, well,
Speaker 1: I guess that's why everyone. The one interesting thing about
Speaker 1: Portugal is everybody's always drinking on the streets.
Speaker 6: Like in the US, it's legal.
Speaker 1: There's no there's people. People See that guy right there,
Speaker 1: he's drinking a beer, he's having a good time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can go it's a cider. No it's not, but
Speaker 1: maybe it isn't. Oh okay, okay, Well see in America,
Speaker 1: if you drink on the streets, they'll tase you. But
Speaker 1: here everyone's you know, that's not true. You guys made
Speaker 1: you guys, You guys see even the face that you
Speaker 1: guys made when I said that was like, oh, is
Speaker 1: that really a thing that happens, And no, it's not.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, actually maybe it is.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: It depends on the state, depends on the stage.
Speaker 1: I think that's how I think people think that in
Speaker 1: America just everyone's if you jaywalk, you get taste to death,
Speaker 1: which I don't know. That probably happens in some places,
Speaker 1: but man, but yeah, I don't know. I guess that's why,
Speaker 1: you know, people are trying to blow off steam. They're
Speaker 1: they're hanging out, they're living their lives there. Yeah, that's stuff.
Speaker 6: Also why we drink so much. We are so overworked,
Speaker 6: and I.
Speaker 5: Think it's kind of part of the cuture of our culture.
Speaker 7: Every time you can see a Portuguese old guy, old
Speaker 7: old man Portuguese like have the that mustache and always
Speaker 7: with tiberia and a cigarette or drinking coffee.
Speaker 6: Yeah, every time, it's like the I know people in
Speaker 6: the US talk about it like the European lifestyle. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it really is like cigarettes and coffee.
Speaker 1: Have you guys been to the US.
Speaker 6: To the US never, but I have a lot of
Speaker 6: friends from there.
Speaker 1: Do you what's your opinion of the US, Like do
Speaker 1: you have any like what's your perception of what it's
Speaker 1: like over there?
Speaker 6: Well, mind you, we are like since we are like
Speaker 6: literally in another continent, we are very fed by the media.
Speaker 6: So mainly, I'll be honest, the division Europe has of
Speaker 6: the US is that you guys are very fucking dumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: like with geography or like maths. You guys, You guys suck.
Speaker 1: I don't know where I can't even point my own
Speaker 1: I don't even know where California is on a map. No,
Speaker 1: that's true, and that's not true. I do, I do,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I actually, you know what I
Speaker 1: thought the other day, I was like, if I saw
Speaker 1: a blank and I've been to almost every state, but
Speaker 1: if I had to draw a map of America and
Speaker 1: with all the states and ship I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: But could you guys do that?
Speaker 6: I've taken like quizzes online of like getting the states right,
Speaker 6: but it depends on the state. There's some I know
Speaker 6: like just by looking at them, but there's others because
Speaker 6: you guys shape the fucking states so.
Speaker 1: Weirdly, Hey, I didn't do anything right, I don't. That
Speaker 1: was Joe Biden made the States. But uh, okay, so
Speaker 1: that we don't know geography, yeah, and that anything else.
Speaker 6: And that your political views are also like kind of
Speaker 6: messed up.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's some of that for sure, but
Speaker 1: in there aren't In there, aren't there messed up political
Speaker 1: views everywhere?
Speaker 6: Yes, but in a sense that imagine like here in
Speaker 6: Portugal we also have like far right people just like
Speaker 6: you do in the US. But the differences in the US,
Speaker 6: you guys are so like the liberty rights, like you
Speaker 6: don't don't treat on me. Yeah, exactly, this the snake.
Speaker 1: That guy's my cousin act, he's a fellow reptile.
Speaker 6: The problem is that you're so like about your own freedom,
Speaker 6: you start stepping over other people's freedom, you know. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 6: so it gets kind of clumpy and messy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I noticed, I've noticed that. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I've been around Europe like doing these interviews and stuff,
Speaker 1: and I think, uh, we definitely need a new PR
Speaker 1: person for the US. It's not hot for you, it's
Speaker 1: hot for me. Oh yeah. Oh well, actually this night
Speaker 1: we got a nice little bit of shade going out here.
Speaker 1: But before that, no, I wanted to die. What are
Speaker 1: you guys' names again, Spike, it's been nice talking to you.
Speaker 6: Guys.
Speaker 1: Man, I think you achieve your dreams. I hope you
Speaker 1: become a tattoo artist, and I hope you, uh you know,
Speaker 1: are able to inspire people with your your music. I'm
Speaker 1: glad youse. Guys seem like good friends. It seems like
Speaker 1: you and I know that you're making emo sad boy music.
Speaker 1: And here's what I Here's what I hope for you.
Speaker 1: Here's what I hope for you. I hope that your
Speaker 1: depression continues to exist just enough for you to write
Speaker 1: good music, but not enough to impede your daily life,
Speaker 1: because it seems like you got a lot of good
Speaker 1: stuff going on.
Speaker 6: That's what I think about every time I wake up.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you guys want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 6: I only have one question for you. Where are the
Speaker 6: other ninety nine gigs? If you can answer that, that's okay.
Speaker 1: What if I can't.
Speaker 6: If you can, I'm interested, Yeah, I'm pretty open to it.
Speaker 1: Where are the other nine to nine gags? Yeah? Uh
Speaker 1: in my ass? Yo. Thank you guys for talking to
Speaker 1: a geck. God bless you see guys around the universe, crazy,
Speaker 1: crazy time, crazy World. Shout out, Shout out one hundred gags,
Speaker 1: Shout out Portugal, shout out the universe. Yeah, praise uh,
Speaker 1: Praise the Lord and save for Jesus Christ. I gotta
Speaker 1: get better with my post call thoughts because I didn't
Speaker 1: really have any just now. But I'll see if anyone
Speaker 1: else wants to talk.
Speaker 4: Week goes on.
Speaker 6: The line taking your phone calls every night every week,
Speaker 6: and goes to his life's teaching you.
Speaker 1: A loud every life, but he's not ready. An expert