WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: The Mac Attack

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>got ta and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck Ma Harrison,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans. It is a midweek edition

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<v Speaker 1>of Talking Cowboys presented by Tostito's, the official Chip and

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<v Speaker 1>the official tip of the Dallas Cowboys. Here from the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Frisco. Heck Ma Harrison, Isaiah Stanback, Rob Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Yeoman's Chris Beam in the back. Gentlemen, how's it going.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fantabulous. Fantabulous. That's a good word. Still swell good, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna be swelled every time. Like it peachy again?

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<v Speaker 1>I love it all right. News and notes for the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>As Week six is upon us, the Patriots look ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>and throughout the next forty five minutes, we preview the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots offense and the Cowboys defense and just exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots do or do not really bring to the

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<v Speaker 1>table in this matchup. But First, we have some updates

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<v Speaker 1>from Rob Phillips. Where would you like me to start.

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<v Speaker 1>How about Lyle Collins? Okay, Lyle Collins will not be

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<v Speaker 1>back this week. What Judge Amos Mazant did denied his

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<v Speaker 1>request for an emergency tro and junction whatever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to call it. He was trying to get back this week,

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<v Speaker 1>so one more games. He's already back in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>He's able to do certain things, work out, being certain meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>but he will be fully back and able to play

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<v Speaker 1>after the buy. Would you like me to get into

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<v Speaker 1>all the details of the case or just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go very high level pretend on Mattlocke. Let's do that? Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it comes down to actually get into the details.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know the details. I can't I'm able

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<v Speaker 1>to give you very high level details. Okay, Okay, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot into this, But I think ultimately it sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like he he wasn't sure it was a the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>was in the right in terms of what the CBA

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<v Speaker 1>says and what they did in terms of suspending him

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<v Speaker 1>five games, But ultimately, in his brief, he said the

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<v Speaker 1>court cannot disregard an arbitrator's reasonable construction of the party's agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't understand that exactly. I mean, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like both sides there. You disagree with it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know, but you're upholding the suspension. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably deeper than what I understand. But anyway, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>back this week, and Terrence Steele will start it right

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<v Speaker 1>tackle and doesn't get those game checks back like we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about earlier, which hurts a la l for

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of time. Those are big game checks too. Things.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the funniest thing about the whole deal was

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<v Speaker 1>that the judge says, you know, while you have a

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<v Speaker 1>really good case against NFL, but I'm not gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>for you. So yeah, yeah, that's that. He's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>got a really good case, you're coming at me really good,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not good for you. Just kidding and with

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke when he actually is the same judge who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>blocked Zeke's suspension and gave him that tro And it

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to it came down to irreparable harm. Could

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<v Speaker 1>could they prove that that being gone and losing those

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<v Speaker 1>game checks was irreparable harm to Zeke? And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that wasn't proven in this hearing last Friday. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>one more game for for LC, one more game for

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence Steel as well as he's got that final game

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<v Speaker 1>before the bye week, and it is good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at even just in the on field repercussions

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Heck, I mean, Lyle Collins is gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>into weeks what was that Week eight of the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna be fresh. You don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about the neck that was bothering him earlier in the year.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to worry about the hip, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think we were all really that

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<v Speaker 1>worried about his longevity and his health issues. But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he's gonna have a fresh start midway through the year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we were worried about him, you know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, coming into the season, hoping that that

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<v Speaker 1>laboram surgery that he had on his hip had gotten better.

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<v Speaker 1>He missed all last year obviously, but tarn still again,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to give him the props that he deserves

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody had bubble guts when you figured out that

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<v Speaker 1>Layelle was gonna go down, and so it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where you already were worried about him as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the neck, all of that tern still fills in.

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<v Speaker 1>You give him a little bit more time to get better,

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that is obvious the case that he comes back

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go. And from everything that I hear about

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<v Speaker 1>people working with Brett Brown, I need to work with

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<v Speaker 1>Bret Brown. I need is he if he is the

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<v Speaker 1>miracle worker like that. I need to get out there

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<v Speaker 1>on them bands with him, because I mean, just as

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<v Speaker 1>the way that he turned Chauncey Ghoston who didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a training camp, and then he comes in and he's fresh,

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go, Leo will come back just like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the bands suck. The bands sucked, but they're awesome at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. I promise you everybody who touches the

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<v Speaker 1>bands wants to hurry up and get back to practice

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<v Speaker 1>because that session with Britt is much more challenging than

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<v Speaker 1>it is to be on the practice field. It looks easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, what makes it look why? I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>make constant resistance? The entire time those bands that he

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<v Speaker 1>walks out there with, it looks like he's carrying dog on.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what it looks like. The rope

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<v Speaker 1>from Heil. But those things work, man, and I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of bands. Because of my time with Britt, I

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<v Speaker 1>spent way too much time with Brett unfortunately, so sorry

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy's Nation. I spent most most of my time with

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<v Speaker 1>that dude, but he got me back from all my injuries. Goodness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody wants to go through that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit longer than they need to. And there are

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys going through it longer than they

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<v Speaker 1>need to. Nevill Gallimore, Trustin Hill, a couple names Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Gallop in there as well. Any other news and notes

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<v Speaker 1>from yesterday, Rob, I don't think so. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was the main one. I think we mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries yesterday. They do practice today. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if it's gonna be outside or inside because we got

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<v Speaker 1>rain coming, but we'll have a better idea if anybody's

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<v Speaker 1>limited it all. You know, Zeke and and Amari were

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<v Speaker 1>limited last week in practice. Randy Gregory too, but everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was able to go. Zeke was pretty sore after this game.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that pylon thing. I mean, like you said

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<v Speaker 1>that you think the bands look easy like that pylon

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a little pillow, but it's not apparently so. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the base of that thing is like hard plastic, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see it when it got knocked over. It

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<v Speaker 1>that thing, so there's no give. There's no give and

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<v Speaker 1>that no give. Yeah, and he talked about it. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy talked about it. Yeah, we just probably move it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Supposed to be at the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, let's push you back a little bit. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's listen to what Zeke had to talk about with

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<v Speaker 1>that pylon, because it was it was really funny. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>what he said about the landing on the pylon after

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Yeah, I fell on a pylon. That thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of hard. Maybe it's a fin spot for it.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. That's exactly what he said. Just make

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<v Speaker 1>it like a hologram or something. Let's take advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>all this great technology we have, you know, and just

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<v Speaker 1>have a fake pilot. He's definitely trying to buy that

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<v Speaker 1>pylon right now, and so set her to sign it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that we're finding new ways that they

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<v Speaker 1>can improve, you know, the dack touchdown that never was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and put a microchip in the football. We

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<v Speaker 1>hate to be the poster child for all of this

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<v Speaker 1>needing uh technology out here though, like you said that

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<v Speaker 1>the Dack touchdown that wasn't and the pylon. Come on, now,

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<v Speaker 1>can we what's next? Can we trademark these ideas? You

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<v Speaker 1>guys are trademark and then talk about it. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are going giving this right three. You guys are

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<v Speaker 1>doing this as an entrepreneur. They like, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? What are you doing? By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned rain potentially today kind of being the deciding

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<v Speaker 1>factor on whether or not to go outside or go inside.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about Sunday? I mean the last time the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys made their way to New England, I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be rainy or it was rainy and

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<v Speaker 1>cold and was one of the sloppiest games on natural

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<v Speaker 1>field turf thing you've seen. And god knows how long,

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<v Speaker 1>at least at the moment looking at the forecast going

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<v Speaker 1>into Sunday, there is a minor chance of rain. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like fifteen percent this morning. So that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's thumbs up if you wanted to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>weather that you would face potentially in Foxboro. So that

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<v Speaker 1>way you don't look at twenty nineteen again and have

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<v Speaker 1>a repeat of that. That game was a mess, and

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<v Speaker 1>it honestly came down to really Brady had one big

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<v Speaker 1>completion in that game and that kind of made the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's it was very difficult for the quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>to function in that game. That I say a standback,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have loved that twenty nineteen game because it

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<v Speaker 1>was all special teams. Yeah, it was not good for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys that day. When the weather acts up there,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets rough, it gets really weird because of how

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<v Speaker 1>the wind comes into that stadium. It's swirls like crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like literally the one ends on it just like

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<v Speaker 1>a little wind tunnel. It just comes in and it

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<v Speaker 1>just shot and then it goes out. But hopefully it's

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<v Speaker 1>not too windy out there, because again it will change

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<v Speaker 1>the way in which you have to post the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are two very different teams facing off this

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<v Speaker 1>week than what we saw in twenty nineteen. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>start talking about that Patriots offense. And of course the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest difference from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty is no

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady. I mean he is not a part neither

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<v Speaker 1>as Julian Atowin is. I guess Rob was already retired

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<v Speaker 1>by that point. Gronkowski I think he took that was

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<v Speaker 1>the year. Yeah, so either way, I mean, the three

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<v Speaker 1>cornerstones of that team are not there on offense. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the defense more tomorrow. The defense is

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<v Speaker 1>real still, But what kind of strengths does the Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>offense bring to the table in this matchup, because at

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<v Speaker 1>least at the moment, heck, but I don't see a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of things that they could take advantage of. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's really outrunic, you know, you talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh McDaniel as offensive coordinator and Kellen Moore and where

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<v Speaker 1>he is right now, the parallels between the two, because

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<v Speaker 1>Josh McDaniel at one point was a hot commodity. Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>Moore right now is scorching hot. Everybody's talking about him

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<v Speaker 1>if future head coaching. But yeah, I think that when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the Pats right now, they are in

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<v Speaker 1>the mold of where they were when Tom Brady first

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<v Speaker 1>took over as quarterback. They want to keep the game

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<v Speaker 1>as close as they possibly can. They want to play defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to get you into a slug fest,

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to make and want to make you

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<v Speaker 1>make a mistake. You know, if you make a mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>they get a turnover, they can get an easy point,

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<v Speaker 1>they can force you into that. But there's nothing explosive

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<v Speaker 1>explosive about this offense right now. They've only scored eight

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns in five games, three rushing touchdowns in five passing touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>So not allowed to be afraid of. But what they

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<v Speaker 1>can do fundamentally is play era free football and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna beat themselves. And in the turn the ball

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<v Speaker 1>over the whole heck of a lot do things stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>But they still have a rookie quarterback. And you have

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<v Speaker 1>to force the hand of this rookie quarterback to do

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things that we've benefited from greatly, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the turnover differential. I loved your article about the

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<v Speaker 1>turnover differential. Man talk about Mike McCarthy when he was

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<v Speaker 1>a Green Bay dump capers all that. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I took a lot from that too, But uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just man, not a lot. Again. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to try and feel as though like we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>run him and knock them out, because it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happen there well coached team, but as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>offense is concerned, look, it's just not a lot of explosion. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Personnel wise is where these guys are a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>snake bit. They don't have the personnel that they've had

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<v Speaker 1>in past years, nor the experience and in those positions, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have the experience at running back like they

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<v Speaker 1>did before. They don't have the experience that receiver tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>They got some dudes, right, they got some dude they

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<v Speaker 1>but they spent they broke the bank to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>they had some dudes at that position. Hunter Henry Johnny Smith. Yeah, absolutely,

0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.960
<v Speaker 1>those two guys are real and those are two of

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<v Speaker 1>the highly talted guys around the league last year, and

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't got both of them. Um, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that was on purpose. Obviously, not only because of

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<v Speaker 1>the success that New England has had in the past

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<v Speaker 1>with their recent with their tight ends, but obviously it

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<v Speaker 1>gives a sense of security, right, And we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the safety blanket for like Dalton Schultz where he is

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<v Speaker 1>to DAC right now. Those two guys are the safety

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<v Speaker 1>blank it for mac Jones and it allows those guys

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<v Speaker 1>not only sit in and block and give him protection,

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<v Speaker 1>but also gives him an outlet and somebody some guys

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<v Speaker 1>a throw to on the interior because they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the weapons on the outside. They still have Nelson al

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<v Speaker 1>Gillard and a couple other guys. But those guys aren't

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<v Speaker 1>guys that like, I fear the thing that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>They always talk about it. Right, Identify right, respect, Never

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<v Speaker 1>fear right, Identify respect, never fear your opponent. So identify

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<v Speaker 1>who can hurt you? Well, you got the two tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends I can hurt you. Okay, identify Also the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>He's young, he's still learning, but he only has two

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<v Speaker 1>percent less efficiency completion rate than DAC does. He has

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<v Speaker 1>two more interceptions in Dak, right, but he has two.

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<v Speaker 1>He's seventy one percent on his completion rate DAC seventy three.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's not look at this and say, okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's just young. He is their guy, their curveball

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<v Speaker 1>that we have a watch out for. Is who their

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<v Speaker 1>quarter offensive coordinator? Yeah, Daniels. As as this quarterback gets

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable in this system, they're going to become more

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<v Speaker 1>of a threat. They will him. Josh McDaniels will find

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<v Speaker 1>ways to get his playmakers a ball. Mac Jones will

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<v Speaker 1>get more comfortable with the calls that Mike McDaniels has

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<v Speaker 1>and those once their relationships starts blending, that's when things

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<v Speaker 1>start happening. So I think that he's doing a good

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<v Speaker 1>job in terms of managing the game. He just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the weapons that we have or the experience that

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<v Speaker 1>Dak has to be as explosive as we are. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's very efficient. Yeah, Jacoby Myers is their leading receiver

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<v Speaker 1>and he actually his coming out party was that twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen game against the Cowboys when he had like seventy

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<v Speaker 1>four yards as an undrafted guy, and he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>their lead receiver. Although I agree with you guys, Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>Henry's kind of been maybe their biggest threat in the

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<v Speaker 1>passing game. Damien Harris is questionable. Maybe for this game.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see. He's banged up. He heard his ribs in

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans game, so we'll see. But you actually hit

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<v Speaker 1>on my point. It's it's kind of like it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>a new offense. I mean, the personnel is almost completely

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<v Speaker 1>different than certainly since the last time the Cowboys played them,

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<v Speaker 1>And I totally agree with the fact that mac Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll get better as you already see him more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>as we go. You watch that Tampa Bay game and

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<v Speaker 1>it's impressive how kind of unflappable he is. And he

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<v Speaker 1>had no running game to speak of in that game

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And the stats show he's getting better against

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<v Speaker 1>the Blitz and you saw it against the Houston game.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll work the middle of the field on you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the guys with crossing routes, and you see

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<v Speaker 1>that with Aglar and and Myers, so we'll see it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an offense that is really testing people down

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<v Speaker 1>the field a lot. But again, yeah, they don't make

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of mistakes, so you can't do what you

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<v Speaker 1>did on Sunday and turn the ball over and give

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<v Speaker 1>him extra possessions, give them more chances to get some

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<v Speaker 1>drives going. Yeah, points will be at a premium because

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<v Speaker 1>if you get into a situation where you start off

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<v Speaker 1>slow like you did against the Giants, it's gonna be

0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.800
<v Speaker 1>they'll get you an a dog a dog fight. But

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you when you make that comparison

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<v Speaker 1>from mac Jones and Dak as far as they're completion

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<v Speaker 1>percentage right now, what do you, I mean, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as your evaluation of him as a quarterback, being a

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<v Speaker 1>formal quarterback, do you see a guy that's a bus Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a rookie, so he's a bus driver, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So he's he's not able to get to that third

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<v Speaker 1>read yet, but he's exceptional as a rookie in his

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<v Speaker 1>first and second read. With them letting go of Cam

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that, did you think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they needed that dynamic to their offense because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the explosion or the ability to stretch the field

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<v Speaker 1>or even him, even him be a dynamic runner. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think obviously losing Cam, you lost ability for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to create. Yeah. There, um, but I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>it would have changed much in terms of their ability

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<v Speaker 1>to throw the ball more effectively because they just don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the weapons on the outside, that is personnel. Have

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<v Speaker 1>they ever Yeah, I mean so Yeah. The reason I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that they've ever had I want to say ever,

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<v Speaker 1>they've had guys in the past that were dominant, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's usually on the interior. They work you on

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<v Speaker 1>the inside to your point, right, And so they've always

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<v Speaker 1>had I've always had Welker they always had Edelman, They've

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<v Speaker 1>always had you know, the tight ends grown. They've always

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<v Speaker 1>had guys on the interior the exterior. They really have

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<v Speaker 1>never ever been truly that concern with that um setar

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<v Speaker 1>from my time there when they had Moss. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was it. They like the work the inside

0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of the field because there's more there's more field on

0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the interior than there's an exterior, right um. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>where they run their offense at and they hurt you

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<v Speaker 1>with their running backs out the back field. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>New England's always hurt you. But to that point, you know, McDaniels,

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<v Speaker 1>The more comfortable that these two get their relationship, the

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<v Speaker 1>more tightly woven that they get, the more dangerous they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to become. Mac Jones looks very composed, very composed

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<v Speaker 1>as I break down the film on him. He nothing

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<v Speaker 1>startles him. His footwork is amazing. It's very Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>ish in terms of his footwork in yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of guys and how the how guys are

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<v Speaker 1>rushing and gets him. He just slides up one step here,

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<v Speaker 1>one step there. His eyes never come off down field.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just his guys have to get open. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the more confident that Josh, the more comfortable Josh

0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.440
<v Speaker 1>McDaniels becomes with his personnel, the more he'll start getting

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<v Speaker 1>in his bag. Because we all know Josh McDaniels is

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<v Speaker 1>getting his bag and we'll break it down in the

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<v Speaker 1>field room. I got some stuff that Jesus. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the way he draws stuff up. He has two three

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<v Speaker 1>options in terms of concepts within one play that works

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<v Speaker 1>against whatever the defense presents. It's amazing. So the more

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<v Speaker 1>confident that McDaniels gets with his personnel, the more dangerous

0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.520
<v Speaker 1>these guys become. And these guys really want to beat

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<v Speaker 1>you down. It's always been the case in New England.

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<v Speaker 1>They physically want to out just outman you. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to run you into the ground. Defensively they're big and

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<v Speaker 1>they're heavy right, but offensively their office ave line, they

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<v Speaker 1>had two guys they were on the COVID list last

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<v Speaker 1>year that didn't opted out, so they got they're still

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<v Speaker 1>getting their feet underneath them in two in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>continuity on that line. So this is a team that's upcoming,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just make sure that their coming out party isn't

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<v Speaker 1>against us. I agree, and I think Josh McDaniels as

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<v Speaker 1>a play caller still has a lot to offer. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he, like you said, isn't maybe that hot

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<v Speaker 1>commodity he was at one point for head coaching jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a heck of a coordinator. I mean, he puts

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<v Speaker 1>the playbook on the table and it is it is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty big, and he's got the Super Bowl rings

0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.399
<v Speaker 1>to prove it. Yeah, and you could say maybe he's

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<v Speaker 1>not a hot commodity, but I think he's just going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the coach there day. I I just don't

0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.800
<v Speaker 1>think he's going anywhere until Bill leaves and he's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy in waiting. That's just I mean, I have notice,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're most comfortable with. I mean, he keeps going

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<v Speaker 1>back there, right he left it, he was there, he left,

0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:11.800
<v Speaker 1>he came back. He was like, I'm just gonna sit here.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had other opportunities since then. He was just like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a post I'm good right here. I'm a good

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm sitting. One way you see him create his

0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.960
<v Speaker 1>creativity is in the red zone. Because they especially I

0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.480
<v Speaker 1>was just watching the game last week. They they've struggled

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<v Speaker 1>down there, struggle cashing in. I think some of it

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<v Speaker 1>is they've had some some offensive line issues. Guys have

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<v Speaker 1>been banged up, so you'll see them go wildcat, um

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<v Speaker 1>try to do some different things to catch the defense

0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.600
<v Speaker 1>that weird guard. Isn't that weird? I mean they do

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<v Speaker 1>all of those great conventional things all the way up

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<v Speaker 1>into the red zone, and then they go it's completely

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<v Speaker 1>out of I mean they've double reverse wildcat stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when they get down the red that's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be a worry for them, because if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the amount of field goals that they kick, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just once they the whole offense sputters out. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a byproduct of having that rookie quarterback that

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<v Speaker 1>is not able to act, acly dissect and see the

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<v Speaker 1>concepts that you're talking about. And so maybe later next year,

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<v Speaker 1>but as long as he has a defense, he's always

0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a chance. And that's what they have, is

0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 1>a defense. There's gonna be a trip, there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a point, and again I hope it's not against us.

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<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be a moment where it clicks for him

0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I got I got Smith, I got

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<v Speaker 1>freaking Henry, and I got Harris coming out of the

0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.640
<v Speaker 1>backfield or whoever else, right, and those guys are gonna

0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:24.680
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna figure out how to get those guys into

0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:26.800
<v Speaker 1>those dog on a little holes. And once he gets

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in terms of just being able to give those

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<v Speaker 1>guys ability to make plays. When you're young, you think

0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.080
<v Speaker 1>that everything has to be perfect. You think that you're

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a young quarterback, you think that your ball

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<v Speaker 1>has to be on the money. You think that everything

0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:37.959
<v Speaker 1>has to be right there on the guys. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as you learn to trust your personnel, just liked knows

0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.280
<v Speaker 1>how to trust everybody else that we have on our offense.

0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Right now, He'll throw it up there and guys will

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<v Speaker 1>go snag and he's like, Okay, as long as I

0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.800
<v Speaker 1>put it in this area, you know, my guy can

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<v Speaker 1>go get it. I don't think he knows that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't he hasn't let that go, He hasn't let

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<v Speaker 1>that control go point to that point. But once he

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<v Speaker 1>realizes that those guys can make plays, that those are

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best guys at their position in the league. Oh,

0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.280
<v Speaker 1>that's that's going to open up his his his box.

0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.360
<v Speaker 1>And most of the guys he trust, right now on

0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that offense are playing tight end at the moment. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when we come back here on talking Cowboys, What Cowboys,

0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:14.000
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<v Speaker 1>Second segment. Here on a beautiful Wednesday, a wonderful Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a rainy Wednesday. That'll keep the Cowboys indoors for

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<v Speaker 1>practice today. Heckma Isaiah, Rob Kyle got Chris Beam in

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<v Speaker 1>the back and we were just talking about the tight ends,

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<v Speaker 1>and goodness, gracious, I don't know a team that has

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<v Speaker 1>so much talent at tight end but so little talent

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:06.919
<v Speaker 1>at wide receiver. Because even the teams that even the

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.359
<v Speaker 1>teams that have talent at tight end, I mean Kansas

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:13.439
<v Speaker 1>City got a guy outside. Yeah, maybe San Francisco Kittle.

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's not a ton of guys outside there,

0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 1>but they still got Brandon Eu can some guys that

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<v Speaker 1>can make some damn it or have rereak some havoc

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 1>in the on the outside. But man, most of the

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>talent is inside. So I ask you this question, rob

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<v Speaker 1>who's challenged the most out of the tight ends and

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<v Speaker 1>what they could potentially do on this Cowboys defense. Um, well,

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Curse has been a guy that they've played

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<v Speaker 1>i mean pretty much every snap in that big nickel

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:43.199
<v Speaker 1>because of his ability to cover tight ends. Um. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Micah Parsons is a guy. You know, he was on

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<v Speaker 1>Gronk and the Opener, and we'll see what he does.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's they've kind of moved him around obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think this might be a game where he's

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<v Speaker 1>best suited at linebacker. I mean, because you mentioned what

0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the backs can do out of the backfield tight ends

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 1>or the strength of their offense, and having his speed

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>behind the behind the line of scrimmage, um, that may

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 1>be best suited to help there. So those are the

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 1>two that jump out to me the most. While you smiled,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the Michael Parsons that linebacker argument. Again it

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<v Speaker 1>sound good. No, it's not an arguments I'm arguing, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean honestly, it's it's based on the matchup everywhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and especially when you have a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you could do that with. I just you know, look

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the tight ends, Hunter Henry has got Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved him in Arkansas. I thought he was a

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<v Speaker 1>stud there and that was just stud in and when

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 1>he played for San Diego go Uh. It's not a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right. They they've always done a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of great things with their tight ends and

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 1>they've been the protection for the quarterbacks over the years.

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:52.440
<v Speaker 1>And just Hogg in the middle of the field is

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:55.439
<v Speaker 1>what they're what their tight ends do. Jeron Curse, I

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.439
<v Speaker 1>think this is he could take this. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>matchup that he should feel comfortable with. Even Neil, I

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>think getting nil into a D third or flat on

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the tight end, I don't think you could go wrong there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just maybe some of the other challenges,

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe the jonal smith you know, a lot more athletic, uh.

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.360
<v Speaker 1>And so that's there's gotta be some got to pay

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>some attention to guys like that. And we've seen in

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>the past, and the reason why we've even talking about

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>tight ends is because we've been plagued by them. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think defensively, if we just stick to what we've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing as far as applying pressure, jumping those routes,

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 1>because you know that's where the Rookie's gonna go. He's

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<v Speaker 1>his first read and he's not checked down Charlie, but

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>he will definitely eyeball his sight ends because they again,

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>they are his his safety blanket. It's very close to

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>what Dak Prescott does with Dalton Schultz. That's not a checkdown.

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 1>It's more of a safety blanket. It's more of an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to get the ball to somebody and be confident

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>in that fact. And now you not only have one

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>of those guys, you've got two of them that can

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<v Speaker 1>make some damage. Yeah, they're both threats. They're both threats.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Hooker and oh, we're gonna just blank

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<v Speaker 1>out Casey, Yeah, Hooker, CAZy, all those guys are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have their hands full. These guys don't run normal tight

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 1>end rountes. They're not running like the regular okay, check

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<v Speaker 1>all right, now, I'm gonna get out to the flat,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, quick out, all right, little option round. These

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 1>guys are pushing it down the field. Yeah, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stretch not only our safeties in our secondary, but

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>they're also going to stretch our linebackers to get more depth.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is what do we know that new England

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<v Speaker 1>likes to do like they'd like to use their running

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:30.120
<v Speaker 1>backs as options as well. So if we have these

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<v Speaker 1>two tight ends running down the middle of the field

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.879
<v Speaker 1>literally putting stress on our secondary and making our linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>get more depth, it forces you to now have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention to those guys underneath, because those running backs

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 1>are going to creep out and get the easy little

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>passes for mac Jones. So it's it's it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things. Man. It's like, yeah, you might be able

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to shut down the tight ends, but what are you

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 1>gonna give up in order to do that? And or

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 1>if you try to just stay underneath, those guys get

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<v Speaker 1>behind you and now you're asking your safeties to come

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.360
<v Speaker 1>up and make big hits on big guys. So, I mean,

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>it's we have our hands for one. I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to seeing this is the biggest challenge that we've had

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>as a duel at tight end position. Obviously Week one

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.159
<v Speaker 1>is one of the best dudes ever do it. Um,

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>But I mean these guys, these two guys work really

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>well together. And then they have another guy and he's

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>one of the guys that sitting there. He'll put hands

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>on you. Yeah, So um, they have, they're gonna use three.

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't be surprised, um to see three tight end sets consistently,

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.479
<v Speaker 1>because again, they want to muscle you off the ball

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>and then they want to utilize that to get behind

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>you once they get you coming up. They haven't been

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>running the ball that effectively, they really haven't. But but

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>we know what they want to do. They want to

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>get the ground game going. Um. And they're and they're

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>very determined in that regard, almost to a fault, almost

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to a fault, very much so. UM. But if you

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>allow them to get that going even a little bit,

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that's when those tight ends can really come back and

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>bite you. But to borrow, sorry to borrow a phrase

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<v Speaker 1>from Jason Garrett back in the day, they were they

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>were persistent with the run last week. Like it wasn't great.

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't great. I mean it's like three seven yards

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>of pop or whatever. But it allowed them to at

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<v Speaker 1>least get the play action and they had Houston biting

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:02.719
<v Speaker 1>on that play action. That's what they you know, they

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>were able to get a lot of things going across

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the field based based off the threat

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>of the run. Yeah, and I anticipate Dan Quinn being

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 1>in his bag in this game because he recognizes where

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the threats are and when you have I mean, Curse

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 1>has emerged in this defense as a guy that you

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.640
<v Speaker 1>trust in those big nickel situations. But I think all

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>in all, even with their offensive line, they played well

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>together and they have great I mean, this is I'm

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>not telling you something you don't know. They're well coached team.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>So the thing about them is they're going to play

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>their assignments the best. But what we have is guys

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>upfront that can get that pressure that can throw off

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>those routes when they go play action like that. If

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Osa's in the face of Mac Jones, that completely disrupts

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>everything that they want to do offensively. I'm not afraid

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>of that. Hannah Henry and these guys that there's nothing

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>about them as tight as that I feel is dynamic,

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like from our from our defensive standpoint,

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>we just stay true to who we are. We've eliminated

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>we stopped teams from trying to run the ball because

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>we've consistently applied that pressure and they can't stick to

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>their game plan. If we get out on them early,

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>they have to change their spots because if they continue

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to try and be methodical in their offense, they're gonna

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>find themselves down by multiple scores. Josh McDaniels actually spoke

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>about that this last week or this week, that they

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>haven't run as much too tight end as they want

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>because they haven't been able. They've been behind on the scoreboard.

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>So maybe the biggest the best defense is for Dak

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and score that, get three three touchdowns in the first

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>half and make it hard for them, you know, make

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>them spread things out. That sounds great to me. Let's

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>just get it done. Let's touchdowns on the board. Let's

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>just go ahead and get out there. And they're not

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>knocked it down. They're not a team built for coming back. No,

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>they're not built for that. But they if you allow

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>a games stay close, they will wear you out. Because

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what he was saying, that's the game plan. Yeah,

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean if they if you get away from that,

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>they're in trouble. Yeah, I mean, that's that's one thing

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys should be looking at. I want

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>to go off of something you said there. You talked

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 1>about dan Quinn being in his bag last week or

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, two weeks ago, the battle that I was

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>most excited about going into the Carolina game. Was Kyle

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>or was Brady Joe Brady and then along with Kellen Moore,

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean the two offensive coordinators dueling back and forth,

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and ma'am, we had a lot of fun with that one.

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm more excited about the direct matchup between Dan quinn

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and Josh McDaniels this week. That is going to be

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>fun because, I mean, two guys that are ascending. After

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.479
<v Speaker 1>having a head coaching stint that didn't necessarily go their way,

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>they go to a place where they have some talent

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to work with and now they are on the rise

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>again as coordinators. I think this is going to be

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>as good of a battle as you'll see between these two.

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not a bad matchup, man. Those guys are both

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>really well respected in terms of their intellect. I think

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn obviously in terms of how he uses his

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>personnel and how he'll approach every game differently. And you

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>got Josh McDaniels, where nobody's ever doubted his ability to

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>play call anybody, I've never heard it that dude is.

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>He's very smart to do it as smart and he

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>will put his guys in position to be successful. And

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>if he can't put him in position to be successful,

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>he'll create something, all right, time, he'll draw some mess

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>up on the sideline on them dog on a little

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>tablets and and they'll be all right, here we go

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>in the dirt boom. You guys got it cool? All right,

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>go out there and run out there. Yeah. So that's

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that's him. So, I mean to your point called, I

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be a heck of a showdown.

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>And also the fact that these guys, these two coordinators

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 1>have history. Ye they've seen each other a few times,

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and I want to go back to

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that what you're saying about McDaniel and being how dynamic

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>he is as a play caller. I think dan quinn

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>coming into this week, I mean, well, I bet you

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that they are waiting for that bye week because they

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>are having to prepare for everything. Yeah. Everything is not

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>one of those teams where you go, oh this is

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you're in a whole bunch of twelve or they are

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>running up, they run everything. Was McDaniels the OC in

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl against them, I want to say he was,

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I think. So yeah, so there's history, there's there's a

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a few He is a Super Bowl history, but

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>he's been back there for quite a few years. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there when they played Seattle in the Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 1>Was he? I don't think he was there. Yeah, I'm

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about I know you, I know what you're talking about,

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying, was he there that far back when

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn was the coordinator in Seattle? He may have been,

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know. I don't know why. I got to

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>look at He's been in and out of the New England,

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not sure he has. He's been the OC

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>since twenty twelve, so that would be a yes. Yeah.

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>So they got two Super Bowls of going up, so

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>this history, you know, basically twenty two. So it's gonna

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>be interesting. And I think the more pressure that we

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>apply to this team and not let up off of them,

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to do this for four quarters, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love what Isaiah is saying about him. They're

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>not that explosive of a team, but they want to

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>get you out into some They want to muddy the water,

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. And if you can get dirty with them,

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>and you getting dirty mean turn the ball over, have

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>poor execution, then they got you it's gonna to me.

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>It comes down, Yeah, to stop the run, don't give

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:56.239
<v Speaker 1>them any threat to be duel and balanced, and you know,

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>get after him. I mean he has again. They talked

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>about it quick release, and in that Tampa game they

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>actually put side by side Dak and Mac Jones's mechanics

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>with a click quick release, and it is it is impressive.

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>He's been better against the blitz. But what was the

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>staff think? You retweeted it too. Most rookie preussers in

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the NFL right now, Osa Digizua and Micah Parsons. And

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>with Parsons, you know, it's not just amongst rookies, that's

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Yeah, it's crazy. And we don't know week

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>to week where Mike is gonna be. He's probably gonna

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>do a little bit of everything. So just get after

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the rookie man. The best part about that stat is

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>it's been a consistent stat throughout the year. I mean

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>it hasn't been like, oh, week two they were like

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<v Speaker 1>fifteenth and sixteen. That No, they've been like up toward

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<v Speaker 1>the top of that list, if not the top of

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 1>the list for the entirety of the year so far.

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned this yesterday with so many guys gonna come

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.399
<v Speaker 1>back for Menjurie pretty much in waves after the bye week.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's gonna be one week after the other

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<v Speaker 1>after the other. I mean, you're gonna have an influx

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<v Speaker 1>of starters, fresh legs coming in and being a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the defense. So I ask you the question yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about people might be losing their jobs. Who

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>is saving their jobs with the play that they've had

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<v Speaker 1>so far? HECMA on defense. On defense, I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeron Curse is a guy that you, Yeah, you gonna

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>have a hard time replacing the value that he's shown you.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jeron Curse is a guy they're probably going into

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<v Speaker 1>two of days. You probably didn't even think he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make the team because he was looked at as

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.760
<v Speaker 1>a special team's ace, and here he is just showing

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<v Speaker 1>up and showing out and making the most of his opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, outside of Terrence Steele, and maybe right there

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 1>with Terrence Steele, I think Curse is my most pleasant

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>surprise throughout the year. Yeah, like those two guys on

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>both sides of the football, this team would not be

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>nearly as confident in what they're doing without those two

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 1>guys doing what they're doing. He's basically a starter with

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the snaps he's playing, and he was a special teams

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>guy basically mostly throughout his career. Yeah, so the Cowboys

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>saw something fit wise that maybe other teams didn't come

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>off the field the last game did not, did not.

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>That's huge. And Donald will be back, you know, at

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 1>some point. But I mean he just he helps you

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 1>in so many different ways. You can play him in

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>different spots, you know, So it's not just one role

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that he fills. I got a controversial one. But I

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>want to hear you guys. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead,

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Now come on, tell me who who's your guy that's

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 1>that's playing into his role or role is safe? However

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it was pose This is kind of a reach. I mean,

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>that's that that you took my one? A didn't I

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>want to? Yeah? Absolutely, I think that might have been

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 1>everybody everybody's um hm, So this is my reach. My

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>reach is Jordan Lewis. I'm not Jordan Lewis, but um

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown, That's where I was going to. Let's go one. Yeah.

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 1>So Anthony Brown, I mean I think he was He's

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 1>obviously your starter just because of his experience and because

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>of what his salary says. He gets. Um. But I

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:59.720
<v Speaker 1>think that the plays that he's making and as as

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 1>week especially, I think that he's securing his spot as

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<v Speaker 1>that that may have been challenged by the rookie Joseph

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>when he was coming back. So I think Joseph still

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>would have to prove that he deserves that spot. But

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that they were they were going to be

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of listening and they say, okay, let's let's see

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 1>young fellow. And if he would show up some spurts,

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I think they would have just said, here you go.

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 1>But now a Browns like nah, player like you stay,

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>you come help us. But this is what I do.

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>This is my spot. That's a good one. I like that.

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even think about the aspect of throwing the

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 1>rookie in there. But you're right, I mean, Calvia, Joseph

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>looked like he was on a fast track to that spot,

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and that's not necessarily happening. Yet you gotta wipe Tampa

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Bay from your memory. I mean, as good as that

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>receiving corps is, I mean, look, man, it'd be a

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>problem for anybody. Unfair. He's got the picks. And I

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>think you also have to keep in mind, as good

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>as this cowboy's offense is, the corners are getting tested

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>more than any corners in the NFL. Digs and Anthony

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Brown's it's a lot to handle because of the fact

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 1>that you know that they're upp lot. You know, that's

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.879
<v Speaker 1>challenging for the other for this this cornerback group, that's

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.759
<v Speaker 1>a good point. Targeted pretty much targeted more than any

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>cornerback group in the NFL. I would because of the score. Yeah,

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine they're right up there. That makes sense.

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I would love to go look at that Sunless. So,

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>who's your guy, Rob, You're not gonna get out of this, no,

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown. Anthony Brown's your guy. Yeah, shake it before

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:22.879
<v Speaker 1>you bake it, all right, I want to hear yours. Well,

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>here's here may be my reach and it's Osa Diggy

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Zoul because of Galimore coming back from elbow Andrew and look,

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>before the season started, you were looking at Osa as

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 1>a rotational guy, uh, for Galimore. I think now Galimore

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>is in a situation where he's the rotational guy for OSAM.

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 1>So when Galimore and Hill come back, they're gonna be

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>watching and coming in to spell OLSA be interesting. I mean,

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're sitting him down. I agree with

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you there. I mean I actually I think I'm gonna

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>stand with you on this one. I think Osa is

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the starter when Gallimore comes back, I'm right there. I'm

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 1>along beside you because and I'm one who I loved

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.399
<v Speaker 1>Nevill Gallimore coming out of the draft. I was really

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 1>high on him. I had a second round grade on him.

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought getting him in the third was a steel

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think he's a bad player by any means,

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>but for what we've seen early in Osa's career and

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>his get off and his strength and his ability to

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>just disrupt things in the middle of that line. Never

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 1>never really did that as a rookie and just tot

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>but it's a big Basically, heals more like Osa than

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Gallimore is more like us, you know what I mean.

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Like Gallimore's talking about the energy. Yeah, okay, that's the

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>only comparison, Like I would I want to see him

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 1>both next to each other. That would that means you

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>have to take Brent urbanof that. That's That's where I

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>was going though, too, because it's like they're all gonna

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>play like Qu's he wants like a If he could

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>have a twenty man D line rotation, he would have it.

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 1>So they're all gonna play. But like does Brent Urban

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>snaps stay the same when Gallimore comes back. Maybe Osa's do,

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>but not Urban, who's been playing more just and adding

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 1>more context of what you're talking about about Ole DIGGI

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 1>zoo in his start. Think about this Gallimore when he

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>really didn't even come into his own to like week

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.880
<v Speaker 1>nine or ten, it was it was a layers game.

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Was really the first one where he really hit the table.

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Right now, Olsa is hitting the ground and running and

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.399
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it's gonna be hard. I believe to

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 1>replace that or take him out or not have him

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>on the field. Like, okay, sixty eight snaps in the

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>game last week, Osa had forty one, Watkins had Carlos

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Watkins had thirty five. Like there's enough Root, there's there's

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 1>an Urban had thirty. Yeah, there's room for everybody to

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.879
<v Speaker 1>get in there and play. Bohannah was sixteen in there

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>as well. Bohana is going to be a interesting conversation.

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's played poorly, but he's just not

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 1>doing the same things as some of the other guys

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<v Speaker 1>are at the moment. It's a great, good problem to have.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It's great. It's a fantastic problem to have.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a second rounder and a third rounder sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the wings ready to come back and make an impact,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of those probably should have been a second

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<v Speaker 1>under as well. But it's gonna be a lot and man,

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<v Speaker 1>the challenges and tomorrow we're gonna obviously talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>offense and more. That's gonna be so exciting because of

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<v Speaker 1>that deep pass defense is it's I don't know, one

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<v Speaker 1>jump ahead, but I'm just telling these guys are for real.

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<v Speaker 1>But the matchup and what we're gonna do once Gallup

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<v Speaker 1>comes back. We talk about the defense. What are we

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do on offense once we get some of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys back healthy. Yeah, that's a topic of conversation really

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<v Speaker 1>quickly before we do wrap things up, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get your ranking. Where does this Patriots offense rank against

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<v Speaker 1>the teams you've seen so far? Is it third? Fourth, fifth, sixth?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's just then a third. I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't rank them up there too high as far as

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<v Speaker 1>I was. Actually that was higher than I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>would be. Honestly, Well, you got Tampa and Chargers and

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<v Speaker 1>they're one two, one two, and then I think better

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<v Speaker 1>than the Eagles. Do you think so different? Different times?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's more speed on the Eagles, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're more efficient than Philly was, at least in the game. Name.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm talking about them. Yeah, m hmm, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good one. I would compare it right at it

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<v Speaker 1>though I was thinking the same thing earlier. The only

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<v Speaker 1>thing with the Eagles is, like Rob just said, different styles.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Eagles have the outside weapons with Raygor

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<v Speaker 1>and Watkins and things like that, whereas it's all inside

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<v Speaker 1>for the Patriots. Better than Carolina's no offense, No, put

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<v Speaker 1>him at five out of the six that we've four

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<v Speaker 1>we played five people, right, Yeah, and put them out

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<v Speaker 1>you would put you would put Carolina's offense, this would

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<v Speaker 1>be six though, yes, this would be the sixth sude. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll put them at um. I put them at five.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are they above? They are above um, Philly, Philly? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Will they be the last? Yeah? Yeah, so Philly, New England,

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina then we go up from there. I would put

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<v Speaker 1>them dead last, and I'm not afraid of saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Philly's got more weapons outside. It's a different,

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<v Speaker 1>different style, But I think I would I would rank

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<v Speaker 1>them bottom bottom of the barrel, at least, not so

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<v Speaker 1>much on the defensive side. I think this New England's

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<v Speaker 1>defense is oh man, they're they're big, that's they're physical,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were quick too on the back end, more

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<v Speaker 1>so than the coordinators we just talked about today. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the chess match that we're gonna get into tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be fun. Yeah, you can fast forward, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Yeah. Can we just give Chris we got

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<v Speaker 1>an extra forty five minutes? Can we just cut free

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<v Speaker 1>and just talk about it now, because we're that excited

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Nope, good trying. All right, that's it for us.

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