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Speaker 1: Well, prefacing the statement by saying this, you know what

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Speaker 2: radio talk. How does that? It's very different than television

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Speaker 2: television structurally, it is very different formatically, it's very different.

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Speaker 2: How did you how how did you settle in Because

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Speaker 2: for me as well, I settled more in on radio

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Speaker 2: because of obviously creative freedoms that that you have more

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Speaker 2: creative freedom, and and you're able to paint a picture

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Speaker 2: with what you say with your words instead of try

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Speaker 2: to give a an explanation as quickly as you possibly

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Speaker 2: can in some situations in TV. How how has it

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Speaker 2: been different for you and and how did how did

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Speaker 2: it settle in on I think you alluded to it

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Speaker 2: that you know what you could talk about, But how

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Speaker 2: did it? How did it manifest for you to go

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Speaker 2: go sports radio?

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Speaker 1: Well, it was it was it was sitting on the

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Speaker 1: principles of those very same freedoms that you spoke of.

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Speaker 1: I got tired of hearing executive directors and executive producers

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Speaker 1: saying that all Lincoln, I don't like the way you

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Speaker 1: and LeVar. Look, let's going to put you and let's

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Speaker 1: put LeVar in such and such together.

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Speaker 2: For no reason.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, here's the thing. And I told people

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Speaker 1: that was involved with in television back in the day,

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, when I was starting to play football,

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Speaker 1: we had to go to practice, we had to learn

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Speaker 1: to play as we had to learn how to play

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Speaker 1: with one another. You walk into this world of entertainment.

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Speaker 1: They give you a script. Sometimes they want to censor you.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they tell you what they want you to say,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes they don't. Other times than not, you're just

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Speaker 1: fending for your own A production meeting is your practice,

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Speaker 1: not a whole lot of preparation, you see. I need

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Speaker 1: a little bit more than that, And so not having that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was the possibility, I mean eventually grew

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Speaker 1: because this is back then when the Internet was just starting,

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Speaker 1: but now to where it's now, you have the access

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Speaker 1: to the information all at your disposal. But I want

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Speaker 1: it more. I wanted more feedback. What can I do better?

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Speaker 1: What can I do more of? What should I be doing?

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Speaker 1: What should I be talking about? Am I too much?

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Speaker 1: Am I too little? Didn't get that lost its lower

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Speaker 1: TV lost its lore for me. Going into radio, I

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Speaker 1: had a little bit more time, and going into radio

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Speaker 1: I could I could not only prepare more, but I

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Speaker 1: could build a certain chemistry that you can't get when

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Speaker 1: you're sitting next to somebody on a TV screen, A

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Speaker 1: chemistry that you get, like we're communicating now because you

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Speaker 1: have that banter, that conversation, that goes back and forth,

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Speaker 1: which promotes good radio.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't always promote good TV because people get impatient.

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Speaker 2: They want a picture, they want to picture, yeah, they

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Speaker 2: want they want something moving, they want to moving video exactly.

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Speaker 1: So you have that freedom with radio that you don't

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Speaker 1: have in TV, and that that was one of the

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Speaker 1: things that drove that drew me to it in all honesty,

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Speaker 1: and it also came to the realization that, look, TV

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Speaker 1: obviously pays more than radio. But you know what I'm okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm a humble man. I've got four kids that will

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Speaker 1: take you care of you know what I mean. I've

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Speaker 1: got enough space around me. I don't need to be extravagant.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to shine. Do I like stuff? Absolutely

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Speaker 1: have I had nice stuff? Absolutely do I do it?

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Speaker 1: Do I need it?

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Speaker 2: Don't need it? Right, No, I hear you, man. But

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Speaker 2: radio does, especially now, it does have its benefits to

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Speaker 2: being good at doing it. So certainly, all right, community service,

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Speaker 2: anything in particular that you represent before we let you

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Speaker 2: get up out of here.

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Speaker 1: Well, I own two restaurants. I have one here in Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: also at one in Vegas. We do Acasian seafood boil.

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Speaker 1: And I've always been a big foodie, as you can tell,

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Speaker 1: big as a house, big foodie guys, so food. I

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Speaker 1: have always equated with love and brings people together. I

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Speaker 1: have been working a little bit with my son's football teams.

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Speaker 1: My youngest son is in high school sophomore football team.

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Speaker 1: Working a little bit with him, but not much taking

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Speaker 1: a step back. I want to let those guys do it,

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Speaker 1: and those people do their jobs. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: circumvent them. But other than that, and I had had

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Speaker 1: an insurance agency for a few years, kind of shut

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Speaker 1: that down, had a cigar business for a few years,

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Speaker 1: shut that down. I'm always dwelling in other things. So

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Speaker 1: there's nothing ever for sure. But as far as community,

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Speaker 1: the extent of community goes with the NFF being on

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Speaker 1: a couple of boards deciding some of the people that

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Speaker 1: are coming in because that's a real big deal to me,

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Speaker 1: and program that effects the game around the country.

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Speaker 2: That is awesome and you're awesome. And that's Lincoln Kennedy. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: the great Lincoln Kennedy and you know him as a

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Speaker 2: Washington Husky and most well known in league circles as

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Speaker 2: an Oakland, Las Vegas, y'all. That's right, Oakland greater. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on, man, taking a little time out

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Speaker 2: for us. Any social media handles you want to throw

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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 1: L Kennedy seventy two is Twitter, Lincoln dot Kennedy dot

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Speaker 1: seventy two is Instagram. I'm not don't have a big

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Speaker 1: presence on social media. Haven't grown that far yet. But

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Speaker 1: you know, congratulations to you and your podcast and most important,

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Speaker 1: like I said earlier, you know, coming into the hall.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely glad good to have you. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: I really appreci shit you have me on your show, man,

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Speaker 1: I really do.

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Speaker 2: Indeed. Man, hey, look here, the show got better, the

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Speaker 2: credibility got better, went up by having you on the show.

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Speaker 2: So appreciate you taking the.

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Speaker 1: Time link anytime, partner. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: All right, y'all heard it here. That's Lincoln Kennedy. I'm

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Speaker 2: LeVar Arrington. This is good in the game. National Football Foundation.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you stay locked in. We'll catch you next week,

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Speaker 2: next show, next time. Be well, y'all,