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Speaker 1: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we

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Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian podcasts. That's guy, Kenny

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Speaker 2: Florian hid you're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: Gangsters were like the furthest thing from Gangsters Can't Flow

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Speaker 3: actually is pretty sneaky underground gangster. Just ask Kolby Covington

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Speaker 3: how fucking gangster Ken Flow is? Hi, folks, I was

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Speaker 3: actually going to try to avoid that the whole show

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Speaker 3: and ten seconds in It's Monday, December eighteenth, twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate y'all being here, Episode one thirty six of the

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Speaker 3: Anakin Florian Podcast. And man, did I appreciate seeing Ken

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Speaker 3: Flow in Winnipeg. Pleasant surprise, What a short notice, fighter,

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Speaker 3: you are just crushing it on that Winnipeg desk who

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Speaker 3: went out of his way to come see you, by

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Speaker 4: Mister Anik. I'm just glad.

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Speaker 5: I'm just glad when when one of the guys in

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Speaker 5: the audience asked who would win between Kenny Florian and

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Speaker 5: Kobe Covington, that you said Kenny Floyd, because you know,

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Speaker 5: I listen, I would have got with I would have

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Speaker 5: gone with Kobe myself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, point is is that if you had to actually

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Speaker 3: fight him on whatever, notice, You're not like you're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to weigh in. This is just gonna be an

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Speaker 3: impromptu thing backstage at a weigh in or something. I'd

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Speaker 3: take Ken Flow first round, rear naked, choke, choke him unconscious,

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Speaker 3: and then you leave.

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Speaker 4: I'm not asking you to fight him over fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 3: I actually had a listener come up to me and say, man,

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Speaker 3: you love Kenny Florian on that podcast. Huh like you

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Speaker 3: like him? He doesn't like you as much. You can

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Speaker 4: Oh did they said that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, I was like, he does like

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Speaker 3: me a lot, though, but definitely not as much. But

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. I wouldn't give you on the lips,

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Speaker 3: but no, I don't blame you.

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Speaker 4: I don't blame you.

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Speaker 3: So so much of the MMA community is in a

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Speaker 3: due respect to what we're about to get into, but

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Speaker 3: it's just hard to put into words. The passing of

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Speaker 3: Robert fallis just absolutely shocking. Word came out Sunday that

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Speaker 3: the longtime MMA coach and figure icon as I would

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Speaker 3: call him, Robert Fallis, had passed away.

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Speaker 4: You know, Kenny, I considered Robert a friend.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, this is a very tight knit community and you

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Speaker 3: we have immense respect for the man Robert Fallis was,

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Speaker 3: and uh, I think this loss just hits people hard. Man,

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Speaker 5: It hit me particularly hard I've known Robert Fallas since

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Speaker 5: And you know, when my brother had passed away, I

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Speaker 5: But for a lot of people, you know, you never

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Speaker 4: And we just have to be way more.

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Speaker 5: And obviously we found out what happened with Tim Elliott.

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Speaker 4: My heart goes out to all those people.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't quite know how difficult, you know, this

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Speaker 3: And he was never a showy guy, right like he

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Speaker 3: Anakin Florian Podcast Awards, our January eighth will be naming

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Speaker 3: our Cornerman of the Year award, the Robert Fallis Coach

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Speaker 3: of the Year Award. But just how many people, Kenny,

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Speaker 3: I just can't imagine how hard this is hitting his

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Speaker 3: and uh, we'll be talking about it with a lot

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Speaker 3: and that you do need to communicate, and uh, I

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Speaker 3: think it goes both ways, right, I communicate things that

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Speaker 3: because it was crazy. Never a dull moment light in this. Uh,

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Speaker 2: It's time for headlines. I have some very urgent and

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Speaker 2: important breaking new headline. The John Ennik and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 3: So, Kenny, I usually have a pretty good idea as

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Speaker 3: landed on Halfayel dosanzosent. I know, there were a lot

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Speaker 3: of different elements to this fight. Robbie Lawler, he suffered

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Speaker 3: And if this dude becomes the first Brazilian welterweight champion

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I mean halfay Al dos Angros really just

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Speaker 5: and how Field dos Angels was the guy. He was

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Speaker 5: repeatedly employed that beautiful leg kick, and and the problem

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Speaker 3: And hard to land when you're backing up obviously, right,

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Speaker 4: As he should and he deserves it.

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Speaker 5: And I think I was hesitant in picking half failed

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Speaker 4: And I said, you know, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 5: Robbie knows how to pace himself now and he's become

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Speaker 5: but this is clearly a half field Dozandros who should

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Speaker 4: Now, I mean now has all his energy, all his strength.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I don't want to take away from Eddie

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Speaker 4: So it's like I sort of root for it right.

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Speaker 3: that he probably shouldn't be fighting that So, so big

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Speaker 3: ups to Halfayel dos Anjos. And I think Tyron Woodley's

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Speaker 5: I absolutely think that Halfield des Angels deserves it. He's

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Speaker 5: you talk about Tyron's wrestling defense. He has the best

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Speaker 5: he can use himself, and he's got that dynamo dynamite

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Speaker 5: So Hafield has to be very careful of how he

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Speaker 3: No, It's like he basically predicted that he would knock

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he and no no doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: You know the whole time, he's going, I'm gonna beat

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Speaker 5: Tyron just still has that kind of chip on his shoulder,

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Speaker 5: which you really need as a fighter. I think that's

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Speaker 3: So tell t would to get a makeup wipe and

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Speaker 5: Let's go, right, it's happens. It's happened Tuesday. I believe

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Speaker 3: And of course he fought four times in a year.

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Speaker 4: Stopped his cut early.

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Speaker 5: These are the risks that fighters take. You know, when

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Speaker 5: of Riccardo Lamas. However, he hits harder than Riccardo Lamas.

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Speaker 5: Why couldn't he lost two pounds? Why couldn't he lost

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Speaker 4: Put yourself in a sauna.

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Speaker 4: It's about to fight, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean Lamas went to bed at like one hundred

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Speaker 3: and anyone I think like you will say, you sign

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00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 3: the contract, you make the way, you know, especially Kenny again,

434
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 3: for someone like you that that really did, you know,

435
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 3: jeopardize maybe your future health and a lot of respects

436
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 3: to make sure that you honored that contract that you had, say.

437
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 4: And on fight night as well. Again, a boy, a body.

438
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 5: Is not the same if you're dehydrated, right, the body,

439
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 5: the brain, all those things. I don't want to get

440
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 5: into that. We all know about that. But you know,

441
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 5: Lamas made the weight. Emmett did not. All that aside.

442
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 5: Emmett is going to be a big time problem for

443
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 5: anyone at one hundred and forty five pounds. This kid

444
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 5: can fight. He trains extremely hard. The guys at Team

445
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 5: Alpha Male are extremely excited about Josh Emmett for good reason.

446
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 5: He impressed me.

447
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 6: Man.

448
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 5: We did his USC debut. Remember he fought John Tuck

449
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 5: on short notice. He made fifty five on short notice.

450
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 5: John Tuck is a tough fighter at Brazilian jitsu, black belt,

451
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 5: good striker, you know, big for the weight class. And

452
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 5: Emmett went out there in an amazing performance, really good footwork,

453
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 5: and on top of that, had a compound fracture heading

454
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 5: into the third round. His figure is going the opposite direction,

455
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 5: the bone is sticking out, and he was able to

456
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 5: survive and fight smart enough to avoid it and not

457
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 5: let Tuck know. And you know, I was just really

458
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 5: impressed with his composure and his ability to stay calm

459
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 5: and find a way to win that fight despite that nasty,

460
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 5: nasty injury. So yeah, I knew he was going to

461
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 5: be a really tough matchup for someone like Lamas.

462
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: So maybe Emmett's a guy who and he had nothing

463
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: to lose lose, all right, No, absolutely, And maybe Emmett

464
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: can really be a guy one of these next guys

465
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 3: for Team Alfamel. You certainly know your Ia Faber feels

466
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 3: like he's got a future champion and Josh Emmett, I

467
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 3: don't know how exactly they spin this thing forward. Emmett

468
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: was graceful, you know, he was graceful about it.

469
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Speaker 4: You know.

470
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 3: I didn't even bring up the weight in the post

471
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 3: fight interview because he did, and he was grateful that

472
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 3: Ricardo Lamas took the fight. He has offered Ricardo Lamas

473
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: a rematch, which certainly Lamas deserves. But the question beckons

474
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: if you're Ricardo Lamas, You're supposed to get your rematch

475
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: here with Jose Aldo. Instead, the circumstances result in nobody

476
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 3: in the top fifteen wanting to fight you. So you

477
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: fight Josh Emmett, you lose in dramatic fashion after he

478
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 3: misses weight. Do you want this matchup again?

479
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 6: Right?

480
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 3: Like, if you're Ricardo Lamas, do you take this rematch

481
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: to try to sort of right the wrong or do

482
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: you just try to move on against a different fighter

483
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: in and around that top eight.

484
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 5: That's a good question. I think in some ways you

485
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 5: kind of need to rematch, right, right? Do you to

486
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 5: kind of right that wrong? Or at least say, hey, listen,

487
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 5: was this a bad style match?

488
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 4: I don't like the matchup for him, period, right, I

489
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 4: just don't like the matchup for him. So I guess

490
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 4: if I'm his coach.

491
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 5: I say, Ricardo, you know what, let's just get better,

492
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 5: take some time away, no sparring for a while. Let's

493
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 5: clean up the boxing. Let's clean up you know where.

494
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 5: Let's see where you went wrong and and go from there.

495
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 5: Maybe just move on. But he was the number three

496
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 5: guy taking on an unranked Josh Emmett. There was a

497
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 5: lot to lose. There a lot of pressure on his shoulders,

498
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,239
Speaker 5: I'm sure, and I think for Emmett it was just

499
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 5: it was a brilliant knockout man. It not only did

500
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 5: does he have power, but it was smart the way

501
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 5: he was throwing the right hand.

502
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 4: He finished with that left hook.

503
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 5: And what the left hook does is not only is

504
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 5: it a good way to land on your opponent after

505
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 5: a combination, but it sets your feet again.

506
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 4: It puts you back on balance so you can throw again.

507
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 5: So Emmitt is very well trained, smart fighter with brutal power,

508
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 5: and I'm sure we'll be seeing him in some bigger

509
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 5: fights in the future.

510
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 3: I don't need a ton on this, but how much

511
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: do you think it helps to have had Chad Mendez

512
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: and Danny Castillo as your right hand man and primary

513
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: training partners who both had wins over Ricardo Lomas. Granted,

514
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: Castillo's was in two thousand and nine, but you know,

515
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: Mende has fought Lamas in a main event in twenty fifteen,

516
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: and I think knocked him out pretty quickly that night,

517
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken.

518
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Speaker 4: I mean, how helpful really is that?

519
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 5: It's a great question, and it absolutely is helpful, because

520
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 5: it is every time you're watching a fight and you

521
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 5: have you know, smart guys like you know, the coaches

522
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 5: at Team Alpha Male, it's research, right, and the more

523
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 5: research you have on your fighter, and anytime you can

524
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 5: recognize patterns and recognize these patterns repeatedly in a fighter,

525
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 5: you find a way to beat.

526
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 4: Simple as that.

527
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 5: And obviously having all these preparations for Riccardo Lamas for

528
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 5: camp after camp, and having these guys that have fought

529
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 5: him and dealt with him, it's gonna be that.

530
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: Much more helpful. These guys know how to do it.

531
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 5: They're going to pass on that intel to guys like

532
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 5: Josh Emmett who are also similar fighters to wrestlers Danny

533
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 5: Castile and Chad Bendez.

534
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, and Emma did have opportunities to go to

535
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 3: other major promotions, but he was waiting for the UFC.

536
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 3: He has probably mimicked for Kardo Lamas, right, He's been

537
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: the primary training partner for a lot of these guys

538
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 3: for championship fights in the UFC. So we'll see how

539
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: far Josh Emma can take this thing, and we'll see

540
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: if for Karla Lamas is interested in a rematch that

541
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 3: certainly deserves if he wants it. Santiago Ponzinibio keeping it

542
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: going can flow. Six wins at one hundred and seventy

543
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 3: pounds went over Platinum Mike Perry. I just cannot get

544
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: enough of Platinum Mike Perry.

545
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 4: I can't. I mean, just from every social media.

546
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,239
Speaker 3: I just am very drawn to him as just a

547
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: fight fan, and I thought he had some moments in

548
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 3: this fight. But Ponzanibio, at least right now, I think

549
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: just a little bit too elite for someone like Platinum

550
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 3: Mike Perry. We did hear that Mike Perry was sick

551
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: during fight week. You're not gonna hear that out of

552
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: his mouth. And he is going in the opposite direction

553
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: in terms of making excuses. But Ponzanibio had to battle

554
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: some adversity with the cuts and everything else and had

555
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: to battle a real tough, powerful fighter.

556
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 4: But the Ponzi scheme, Baby, this guy's the real deal.

557
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 4: In my mind.

558
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 5: Absolutely, every time I hear Santiago Ponzinibio's name, I always

559
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 5: want to say Santiago Papa Giorgio. But anyways, Yeah, pots

560
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 5: and Ebio was was very impressive and he was the

561
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 5: more skillful guy heading into this. I just thought because

562
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 5: he has a tendency of brawling with his opponents, I

563
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 5: thought that was gonna favor someone like Mike Perry, who

564
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 5: has insane power and pots and Ebio's got a hell

565
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 5: of a right hand. But Mike Perry just wasn't putting

566
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 5: together the combinations he needed to really put Ponsanibi away.

567
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 5: And pots and Ebio has come back from the dead

568
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 5: a few times. If you've ever seen the Ultimate Fighter

569
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 5: Brazil season that he was on, he did it time

570
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 5: and time again.

571
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: He's done it in the UFC as well.

572
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 5: He'll get hurt and almost like it wakes him up

573
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 5: and he comes back to life out of nowhere. There's

574
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 5: that spinning bakfast from Potsanibia that he landed that dropped

575
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 5: Mike Perry. Pots and Eba is just gritty man and

576
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 5: when you hear about his life of how he was

577
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 5: able to survive in Brazil, leaving Argentina for a country

578
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 5: he had no idea about, didn't speak the language at

579
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 5: the time.

580
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 4: He's like selling stuff on the beach.

581
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 5: He was homeless and in Brazil sleeping on the mats

582
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 5: at one point, you know. And obviously with the Brazil

583
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 5: soccer rivalry with Argentina, they did not like him. They

584
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 5: try to put it on him every single day. In practice,

585
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 5: a guy who can survive all of that is going.

586
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 4: To be effing tough.

587
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 5: And that guy is Potsaniba, and he's improved his footwork

588
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 5: to be able to get in and get out. And

589
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 5: that was the difference here against Perry. He knew when

590
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 5: to land and when to get the hell out of

591
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 5: the way when Perry was coming. So I thought it

592
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 5: was a smart performance for him, mixing in those takedowns

593
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 5: when he needed and in that third round when he

594
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 5: hit that takedown, it just sucked the life out of

595
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 5: Mike Perry. It took the took the wind out of

596
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 5: his sales. Uh, and Perry just had nothing left man.

597
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 5: And again maybe it had something to do with him

598
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 5: being sick or whatever, but the again, these are the

599
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 5: risks you take as a fighter. We all take them.

600
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 5: Sometimes you're not feeling one hundred percent. Sometimes you have

601
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 5: an injury, sometimes you have a staff infection. Sometimes you

602
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 5: have all these things right, and you just you want

603
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 5: to take that risk. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't.

604
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Can Flow is sick for the Gray Manyard fight,

605
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 3: by the way, breaking news here.

606
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 4: Just he really didn't feel great though. I'm just selling you.

607
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 5: I fought with three broken arms in that fight. I

608
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 5: just let everybody know, Yeah he did.

609
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: He had a spiral fracture of his femur for the

610
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: Gray Maynyard fight. It's still fucking fought, ladies, and my back.

611
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 4: I broke my back.

612
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to pull up the internet because I

613
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: don't want to mass with the connection. And we are

614
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: working on any audio issues that anyone might be having

615
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: rest assured as we continue our transition to Fox Sports.

616
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: But in terms of the welterweight rankings, I'm not gonna

617
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: pull him up right now.

618
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 4: You know, I think wonder boys out there.

619
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: Obviously Jorge Mosfiedal wants to take some time off, but

620
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: you know, I mean to me, you want to do

621
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: Ponzanibio and Steven WonderBoy Thompson. You know I would, I would,

622
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: I would pay to watch that fight, right, I mean,

623
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: who do you who do.

624
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 4: You think's next for Santiago?

625
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not gonna be a title shot, but

626
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: uh he's getting awfully close.

627
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 5: Bro, you killing it with the matchmaker. I like that fight. Okay,

628
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 5: that's a sick That's a sick fight for me. If

629
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 5: I'm a welterweight, no one wants to fight wonder Boy, Like,

630
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 5: stay away from wonder Boy. The only guy who should

631
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 5: be fighting wonder Boys maybe Tyron Woodley and and that's it.

632
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 5: And obviously you know that we know about their history.

633
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 5: Wonder Boy might get that third shot, even though he

634
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 5: lost those first two. I think WonderBoy striking is just

635
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 5: it's at a completely different level.

636
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 4: Man.

637
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 5: It's it's amazing what he's done in that division. But

638
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 5: uh yeah, I think that's a hell of a fight,

639
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: a hell of a fight, man. Pots and Ebio and WonderBoy.

640
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: Simmel and I remember being on a treadmill next to

641
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: Platten and Mike Perry several years ago, I think in Mexico,

642
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: and he was actually a little chubby at that time.

643
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 3: You know, both Chubby, the two of us running on

644
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: those treadmills can flow, and he he was like, I'm

645
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: gonna be world champion. Laugh now, you know, look at me.

646
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, dude, I didn't say you weren't going

647
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: to be.

648
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: I'm just running. I'm just trying to get a workout,

649
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: cutting weighted altitude, just like you, Parry.

650
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, I are telling you though, Kenny, like, this

651
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: is a sneaky, lifelong martial arts guy right who loves

652
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: boxing and was very good on the street and now

653
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: is taking it seriously. And I know he was disappointed

654
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: in his cardio. We heard rumblings that he wasn't one

655
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: hundred percent healthy in terms of his immune system or

656
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: whatever else. But I really feel like the ceiling's pretty

657
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 3: high for this guy. He feels like he has very

658
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: good jiu jitsu and good wrestling, and you know, maybe

659
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: down the line, if he were to fight someone like

660
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 3: ponzan Ebo, he'd have so many different tools in his

661
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: arsenal that he wouldn't necessarily exclusively stand and bang. I

662
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: think he did take Santiago down at one point in time,

663
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: but I do think as he continues to develop that

664
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: Mike Perry can be a top ten fighter and eventually

665
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: somebody that that challenges the elite of this division.

666
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: Am I alone? No, No, listen.

667
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 5: I think the way that he moves, the talent that

668
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 5: he possessed, the physical abilities. Yeah, this is a guy

669
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 5: who really could be elite. I just think that maybe

670
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 5: he needs a little bit better training. I don't know

671
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 5: who he's training with. Is he at att Orlando? Is

672
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 5: that is that where he's at?

673
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: I believe at times?

674
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, So anyway, you know, he should he should maybe

675
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 5: go out to American Top Team and is it Coconut

676
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 5: Creek Is that where it is?

677
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah, in Coconut Creek and trained with those guys.

678
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 5: Just getting a little bit more experience dealing with some

679
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 5: of the elite fighters over there.

680
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: I don't know.

681
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 5: It's tricky obviously with Potzanibio and all the guys over

682
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 5: there in the in that division. But yeah, just get

683
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 5: getting some more skills, getting some more experience. This is

684
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 5: a guy still pretty early on in his career, and

685
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 5: I think Mike Perry has he has the right approach,

686
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 5: and I agree, I think that this is a guy who,

687
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 5: you know, character aside don't get fooled by it.

688
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 4: This is the guy who really loves what he does.

689
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: He does work very hard.

690
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 5: He does want to be a high level martial arts

691
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 5: and learn everything there is to know about this game.

692
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 5: He just needs to continue on that path. And I

693
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 5: really appreciate his mental attitude what he was tweeting after

694
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 5: the fight. And uh, I think that's a guy who

695
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 5: can be one, you know, yeah, absolutely, And I think that, uh,

696
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 5: you know, he could also if it doesn't turn out

697
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 5: where he doesn't become a champion, just just have a

698
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 5: reality show.

699
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: Just have some cameras follow him around. He he's entertaining.

700
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: He should be. It should be the Mike Perry Show.

701
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get him on that desk next to you.

702
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: That's what I'm gonna do, right, because then we gotta

703
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: do what we gotta do while he's fighting. The other

704
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: thing too, that's interesting about Mike Perry and and and

705
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: in terms of the American Top Team stuff. By the way,

706
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: at Coconut Create, you know, he called out Robbie Lawler

707
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: after his last win, right, so I don't know that.

708
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: And again that South Florida, right is too and a

709
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: half hours away, so I don't know how realistic it

710
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: would be. And but you're right, there are a lot

711
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: of welterweight bodies down here. Ponzan Ebo, who he's now fought,

712
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: Chris Jock goes down here. Of course, Lawler training at

713
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: a different gym now, but there are welterweight bodies in

714
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: South Florida, and TOYM.

715
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 5: Woodley technically is at he has an att affiliate. Yeah right,

716
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 5: so yeah.

717
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 3: But the interesting thing on Platinum Mike Perry is that

718
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: he also wants to be a guy who steps up

719
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: on short notice at one hundred and eighty five pounds

720
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: for the UFC, because he does keep himself in shape

721
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: and he is a fighters fighter, and he's never been

722
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: knocked out, so in theory he's ready to take those fights.

723
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: But he was fighting a top ten guy here, so

724
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to table his welterweight championship aspirations to

725
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: take a short notice fight at eighty five. But now,

726
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: coming off a loss, all I'm saying is I would

727
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 3: not be at all surprised to see Platinum Mike Perry

728
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: step in and take a short notice fight at middleweight

729
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: between now and Groundhog Day.

730
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: Don't hold me to it.

731
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: All right, completing the main card in Winnipeg, and James

732
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: Krouse scheduled to join hear in about ten minutes to

733
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: talk about his fight coming up January fourteenth, and obviously

734
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: Tim Elliot's fight going by the boards, and of course

735
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: the late Robert Follis and everything else. But Glover Toshera

736
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 3: here hands Misha Serkunov Kenny his second consecutive first round loss.

737
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: And it's crazy where Serkunov is right now relative to

738
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: where he was started out in the UFC four and

739
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: zero with four finishes, looked like he was going to

740
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: be a guy who was going to work his way

741
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: up a shallow ladder to challenge someone like Daniel Cormier

742
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: or John Jones. And now back to back first round setbacks.

743
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 3: This one stings in particular for Mesha Serkunov, I would think,

744
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 3: because he seemed to be in such a good, renewed

745
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: place going in and seemed to have closed that Uzdemir

746
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 3: chapter and Glover to Schera, survived some early combinations and

747
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: proves that at thirty eight years old, man, he is

748
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: still very much a factor.

749
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 5: Well that's the thing, man, you know, Serkonov was outstriking

750
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 5: Glover easily, easily, And that's one thing I'm not sure

751
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 5: a lot of people saw that coming. Serkhanov certainly had

752
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 5: the potential to do that, but the way he was

753
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 5: putting together and putting it on Glover, Glover just looked.

754
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 5: You know, Glover's not the fastest guy in the world,

755
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 5: never has been, but he looked particularly slow on Saturday, right, Yeah,

756
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 5: which I was with, Yeah, and you know, Sirkanov just

757
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 5: looked very sharp, and he made one mistake. He gave

758
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 5: up those double unders to Glover to Share hit a

759
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 5: beautiful body lock takedown, just went from switching it from

760
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 5: the left side to the right side and sirking off.

761
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 5: He made the mistake of turning to his knees. He's

762
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 5: a Brazilian jitsu black belt doing that in the open mat.

763
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 5: You cannot turn to your knees. You're gonna get your

764
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 5: back taken. You know, just not a good decision there.

765
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 5: Beautiful stuff on the ground there from Glover to Share,

766
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 5: who was all over him. Once he flattened out his

767
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 5: hips man Glover with those heavy strikes on the ground,

768
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 5: Misha wasn't going anywhere. Misha wasn't going anywhere, and that

769
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 5: must have stung man that that must have been a

770
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 5: hard way to lose that fight, especially given that you

771
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 5: know there was a lot on the line. He was

772
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 5: winning it and that one mistake. Again, I don't know

773
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 5: if that's a mental error. I don't know if that's

774
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 5: something he you know, he was getting away with in training.

775
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 5: But unfortunate there for for Misha Serkonov, who I didn't

776
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 5: pick to win the fight, but you know, he was

777
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 5: winning that fight. Just one mistake that was the difference.

778
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 5: He easily could have won that he's better on the ground.

779
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 4: Than what he showed.

780
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Serkuanov was favored to win that fight to a

781
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: big two points for you. In the main event challenge

782
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: with Glover to Shera, that's actually probably gonna be the

783
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: fight that seals it for you. But you're right, I

784
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: did think that that Tashera maybe finally showed his age

785
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: at least a little bit physically despite getting an emphatic

786
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: win here. And for Misha Serkunov, this is going to

787
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: be interesting to see how he responds because when I

788
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 3: spoke to him Tuesday, he could not have possibly sounded

789
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: better and he sort of finally really getting comfortable with

790
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: what it takes to sort of be at the elite

791
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: levels of the UFC, and in terms of mastering the

792
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: routine over three hundred and sixty five days a year,

793
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: he felt like early on, you know, getting to the

794
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: UFC and establishing yourself in the top ten are totally

795
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: different animals. And I think he finally came to peace

796
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: as to what that process was going to entail. And

797
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: now I think he's gotta be lacking some confidence. I

798
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: would think a little bit after what happened here against

799
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: Glover to shera big win for Glover, came right over

800
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: the broadcast table and wants to fight Daniel Cormier. Now

801
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: he is, Kenny one of the bigger names in this

802
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 3: light heavyweight division, probably the biggest name that hasn't had

803
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: a crack at Daniel Cormier.

804
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 4: With respect to I guess Ovins Saint Prux.

805
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: So do you think, I mean that is a reasonable

806
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: thing for Glover to Shara if DC gets through Volcan Uzdamir,

807
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: that that would be the next fight. You know, maybe

808
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: next summer that Cormier or even Uzdamir would would fight

809
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: to Shera. Because he came in number three in the

810
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 3: world dispatch. The number seven guy in a few minutes.

811
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know if Glover necessarily deserves it.

812
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: I love Glover.

813
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 5: He's one of the nicest guys in the sport period,

814
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 5: and I would love to see him get that crack

815
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 5: at DC. However, you know, he's coming off a loss, right,

816
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 5: and he's coming off a knockout loss to Alexander Guvsiston.

817
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 5: Manoa is coming off a loss to Uzimir, so I

818
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 5: you know, I know Manawa called him out. I think

819
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 5: that's a fight that actually makes a lot of sense. Yeah,

820
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 5: and you never know what DC. DC could go out

821
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 5: there and beat Uzdimir and then just retire, so who knows,

822
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know how many I haven't spoken

823
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 5: to JC about anything like that, but you know, who knows.

824
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: I don't know.

825
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 5: So then that could kind of mix things up again.

826
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 5: But it's not like, you know, Glover's on a three

827
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 5: fight win streak right now. Yeah, you know what I mean,

828
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 5: he won one, he lost, so I still think it

829
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 5: kind of makes sense for Manawan. Now as far as

830
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 5: a matchup, I favor that matchup for Manuwa just based

831
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 5: on the speed and the power that he possesses. Man

832
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 5: manuecan crack boy, and Glover has gotten slower.

833
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: And a lot of m m A miles man.

834
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: I mean this doesn't I was supposed to happen October

835
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 3: twenty eight dad hand surgery, you know so and.

836
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 5: Being Chuck Ldell's sparring partner for like sex in eight

837
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 5: years maybe long?

838
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean right, yeah, yeah, yeah, it all adds up.

839
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: Gotta love Glover though, the man Stanbury, Connecticut on the

840
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: mast all right. A couple other highlights from uh from

841
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: this show over the weekend. You know, I think pretty

842
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 3: highly of of Yan Bohovich and Jared Cannoneer Behova's riding

843
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: that jab to beat the Killer Gorilla over the weekend,

844
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 3: and I think that's a win. That's certainly a feather

845
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: in the cap of Whovich, who I thought showed his experience.

846
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: How about this Julian Marquez cat huh submission winner over

847
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: Darren the Dentist Stewart. I mean, this Marquez can can

848
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 3: take a shot. He stole the show during fight week.

849
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: Definitely a dynamicism to this guy and somebody who who

850
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 3: I think people are going to be tuning into when

851
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: when he when he gets back in there for his

852
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 3: second UFC appearance.

853
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 4: Did they bonus Marquez? Yeah?

854
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: I think they did as well. So mean, what'd you

855
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: think of a what'd you think of the Cuban missile crisis?

856
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: Kid?

857
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 6: Dude?

858
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, Marquez, we get it.

859
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 5: You're top, You're tough, you have an anvil under that

860
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 5: beautiful beard, my friend, you'd don't need to show it

861
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 5: every single time, though, And this is a guy who

862
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 5: I think has a lot more skills than what he showed.

863
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 5: I think he kind of got himself involved in a

864
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 5: brawl unnecessarily against Stuart. Now Stuart is tough man, but

865
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 5: you know Marquez, I think there's no doubt. I mean,

866
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 5: one of the most entertaining fights of the year in

867
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 5: a lot of ways. But I think he took the

868
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 5: hardest path to victory in a lot of ways. Instead

869
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 5: of climbing over the wall, he just tried to bowl

870
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 5: himself right through it. But I love the finish. This

871
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 5: guy has heart for days. He moves really well. This

872
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 5: guy's very strong for the weight class. I saw him

873
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 5: last time I was at the UFC Performance Institute. He

874
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 5: was in there working his ass off, and I just

875
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 5: love his attitude. Just a friendly guy, A funny guy.

876
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 5: And how about him walking out in his UFC debut dancing.

877
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 5: I mean, this is a guy who's only gonna get better,

878
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 5: just needs to continue working hard, and I think toughness

879
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 5: and work ethic, all that stuff, he could be something.

880
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 5: He could be something in that division. I just think

881
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 5: he just needs to employ better tactics during his fight.

882
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 5: But jeez, man, I love that fight. It was It

883
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 5: was a fun fight. It was a movie style fight, man.

884
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he is just getting going right. I think

885
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 3: termed pro career a lot of room for improvement there.

886
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: It is funny you mentioned him dancing on his way

887
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: to the octagon. Super awkward to see, Darren Stewart. I

888
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys on your feed saw so

889
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 3: he starts dancing, okay, because he did, Like he starts

890
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: dancing in the octagen because he didn't know what to do.

891
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 3: And it was just like, bro, just be you man,

892
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: you know.

893
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 4: You know what I was doing it my UFC debut.

894
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 5: I was dancing, peing my jeans, paying my jeans all

895
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 5: the way out.

896
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 4: They're just yeah, frightened jeans too. Yeah.

897
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 3: That's the most white, white eyed I have ever seen

898
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 3: in your life. Thinking that no you are no you oh,

899
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: too bad for the listener, too bad for the listeners,

900
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 3: all that you couldn't see there Chad Laprize winner after

901
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: getting knocked down over galore Bo Fando. Gotta feel good

902
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 3: for Nordein to leb your former teammate day hot chocolate

903
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: Roberts is no joke and on paper now for Nordean's

904
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: IP six and two in the UFC when he has

905
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: won fights, I always am left with the impression that, man,

906
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: when this guy's on and poppin', uh, he can be something.

907
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 5: I agree, man, Nordeen's a guy who always used to

908
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 5: give problems to anyone he sparred with. Whereas gsp Roy MacDonald,

909
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 5: this guy's a beast in the gym. He was a

910
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 5: beast in the gym, and I always said, you know,

911
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see this guy in his USC debut.

912
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: He absolutely deserves it.

913
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 5: And once he got there, I didn't see the same

914
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 5: Nordean in training that I saw in the octagon.

915
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 4: That's not the case anymore.

916
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 5: I think he's comfortable now with himself, with his game,

917
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 5: with his style fighting in the octagon. Those UFC jitters

918
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 5: are long gone and he's showing us all what I've

919
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 5: been seeing for years at TriStar. This guy is an

920
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 5: absolute savage. What a brutal, none walkout dude. That kick

921
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 5: that caught him off guard and went right up and

922
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 5: over the guard of Roberts and landed clean on the chin.

923
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 5: And then to follow with that right hand that just

924
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 5: went right through him. Man, Yeah, he's an absolute savage.

925
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 3: Also a guy you know pretty well, John Macdessi with

926
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: a big win over the weekend, and he's pretty clean, clean,

927
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 3: efficient striker when he's on, he's he's as hard to

928
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: hit statistically as anyone and finds his range pretty easily.

929
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 3: But for able to kill a true hel man, I

930
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: don't know if it's that he needs to meet right

931
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: He went vegan like two years ago, plant based diet,

932
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 3: but I remember a couple of fights ago Henry Hoof

933
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: was like, where's the violent Abel? In his corner in

934
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: his face, like, where's the violent Abel? And for whatever

935
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 3: reason it wasn't the violent trueheuo over the weekend. I

936
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: don't want to take anything away from macdesi, but good

937
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 3: win for John. But joining us on the guest line

938
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: right now, another guy who of course was hit particularly

939
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: hard with the news that Robert Fallis had passed away.

940
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: UFC lightweight contender James Krause is with us. James, thank

941
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: you for taking the time, man. I know it's been

942
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: an emotional week for you, as I understand that Robert

943
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: was actually supposed to be with you, uh in Tim

944
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: Elliott's corner a couple of days ago in Winnipeg.

945
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

946
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was.

947
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 7: It was a weird, weird deal, you know, he was

948
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 7: supposed to come to us, I think Thursday today night.

949
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 7: You know, Robert was always good about getting back to

950
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 7: people immediately, and I didn't hear from him, so I

951
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 7: wrote him on I was in Canada, so I was

952
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 7: out of the country. My phone was weird, so I

953
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 7: wrote him on Instagram because I had wi fi. Didn't

954
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 7: get a don't anything back there, and it didn't even

955
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 7: send through. So I wrote him on Facebook. It was

956
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 7: it wasn't even you know, wasn't even going through and

957
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 7: he wasn't answering. So I kind of had a I mean,

958
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 7: something was wrong because you know, he knew, you know,

959
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 7: follow us at all. He was he just wasn't. He

960
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 7: wasn't a flaky person, you know, so I kind of

961
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 7: knew something was up, and then you know, we got

962
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 7: the We got the news and it was just a

963
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 7: you know, a bad deal. We knew something was wrong,

964
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 7: we just we weren't we weren't quite sure about it.

965
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 7: And uh, it's unfortunately, you know, I know, he's had

966
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 7: a big impact the little amount of time that I

967
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 7: think when he had had an impact on me as well.

968
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 7: You know, I was on the show with him. He

969
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 7: was one of my one of my coaches on the show.

970
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 7: So uh, man, you know, I just don't I'm really

971
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 7: lost for word. Yeah, I'm upset, I'm you know, I'm heartbroken.

972
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 7: I'm uh, there's just so many emotions going through and

973
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 7: there's just so many questions that you want to ask,

974
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 7: but no that there's just never going to be any

975
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 7: answers to him because the only person that can answer.

976
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 6: And is gone.

977
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: Man.

978
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: Well you put it well and and again we appreciate you,

979
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: uh even being willing to come on and talk with

980
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 3: us today, and of course yourself. You're in the middle

981
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: of training camp for a fight that we can get

982
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: to in a little bit. But for Tim to not

983
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: have Robert there and to not know exactly where he was,

984
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: as you guys are are making a weight cut and

985
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: getting ready for a prize fight. I mean, how much

986
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: was that on Tim's mind as he was cutting weight

987
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: and trying to focus on the task at hand.

988
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 7: Well, Tim, I mean he's talked to him.

989
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 6: A little bit. I'm sure he's pretty Yeah.

990
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 7: I mean though there's not a lot of stuff that

991
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 7: rattles him. Yeah, And you know, in terms of like

992
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 7: the coaching aspect, he wasn't really worried about it. You know,

993
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 7: I've coached him through his entire BFC career. I've been

994
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 7: in every one of his fights. So, uh, you know,

995
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 7: it wasn't it wasn't that. Uh. You know, Tim's a

996
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 7: veteran and he knows, he knows what he's got to do.

997
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 7: He's got to stay focused. But we both knew something

998
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 7: was wrong, you know, because this is this is I

999
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 7: hate to even explain it like that, but Tim and

1000
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 7: I were having this discussion before we found out. You know, man,

1001
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 7: what's the worst you know, what's the worst possible thing,

1002
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 7: Like if if this, if this was me? And then

1003
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 7: I was fighting him and I said, you know, what's

1004
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 7: the worst thing is like, Okay, maybe my my daughter

1005
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 7: and my wife, you know, passed away in a car

1006
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 7: wreck or something. You know, my whole family died in

1007
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 7: a car wrecker. I was like, man, I would still

1008
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 7: I would let you know, you know, because if you

1009
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 7: when you spend a coach right fighter that you're married

1010
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 7: to that person first six to eight to twelve weeks,

1011
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, you married that person, and

1012
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 7: for him to to not contact us, you know, we knew,

1013
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 7: we knew something was wrong. So I think we both

1014
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 7: kind of knew there was something seriously wrong. We just

1015
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 7: really didn't. We tried to stay focused on at the

1016
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 7: task at hand and hope everything work out at the end,

1017
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 7: but obviously that wasn't the case.

1018
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 5: Hey James, this is Kenny Man. First of all, I

1019
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 5: just want to say sorry. I'm so sorry that you

1020
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 5: guys have to deal with this, this terrible news, and

1021
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 5: especially as you know the circumstances with Tim and you

1022
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 5: and it just it's it's crazy and I'm so sorry.

1023
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 4: What was it like though, to train with Robert?

1024
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 5: This is a guy who, you know, anyone who worked

1025
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 5: with him, anyone who talked to him, always said the

1026
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 5: most amazing things. What was Robert like as a as

1027
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 5: an individual and as a coach.

1028
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's important to separate separate people from

1029
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 7: an individual perspective and from a coaching perspective, and obviously

1030
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 7: they tie in together because I think I think that's

1031
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 7: what makes a great coach is a is a friend

1032
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 7: as a mentor of somebody that you can have you know, uh,

1033
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 7: conversations with about about things that you normally couldn't talk

1034
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 7: to other people about. But as a person, Robert was

1035
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 7: was he was just an amazing, amazing individual. You know,

1036
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 7: he always uh, he was a coach's coach. You know,

1037
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 7: he's a guy that that twenty twenty year vests can

1038
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 7: call up and ask for advice and he would have

1039
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 7: an answer just because he's been through the He's been

1040
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 7: through the Ringer, you know, he's he's been through it all.

1041
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 7: He's seen it all. He's been here since pretty much

1042
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 7: the inception of in the A almost you know, and uh,

1043
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 7: he sees just about everything come through.

1044
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 6: Uh.

1045
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 7: He's got a wealth of experience in grappling. He always

1046
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 7: has he always has answers uh for anything outside of

1047
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 7: fighting as well. But as a coaching perspective, he had

1048
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 7: a pretty pretty awesome, U unique outlook on fighting as well.

1049
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 7: You know, he had a very a very good mental

1050
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 7: approach to the game. His grappling was in my opinion,

1051
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 7: he's one of the very few and only uh NA

1052
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 7: grappling coaches. You know, there's jiu jitsu coaches, but I

1053
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 7: feel like there's not very many. You know, this is

1054
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 7: not striking, this is not wrestling, and this is not

1055
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 7: jiu jitsu, this is.

1056
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 6: In n A.

1057
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 7: I feel like Fallis was one of the very few

1058
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 7: people that adapted that style, you know. Uh so, uh

1059
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 7: he's just really he's just an incredible, incredible human being

1060
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 7: and uh he brought so much, so much knowledge that

1061
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 7: they won't like to say. He was just a guy

1062
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 7: where you just weren't sure what to do. He was

1063
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 7: a guy he called you know, he had the answers,

1064
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 7: and if he didn't have the answers, he was the

1065
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 7: guy that was find the answer for you and and

1066
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 7: or at least talking through it, you know what I mean,

1067
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 7: like you figured it out together. He's just, you know,

1068
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 7: like I said, he's I think the best way to

1069
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 7: describe Robert Fallis is amazing individual. And he was he

1070
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 7: was not a coach who was a coach just coach.

1071
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and That's how he's going to be remembered. Man.

1072
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 5: And you know, as we switch gears, I know you're

1073
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 5: getting ready for your fight again against Alex White. You're

1074
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 5: going back down to one hundred and fifty five pounds.

1075
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 5: I saw you relatively recently. You know, are you getting

1076
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 5: down close to to one fifty five now? And I

1077
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 5: know that's not the easiest of cuts for you, but

1078
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 5: I know you're gonna do it and do it well.

1079
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 4: How has camp in.

1080
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 7: Camps in amazing? I'm I'm, I'm healthy, I'm I'm. I

1081
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 7: think over the last years, I've done a lot of

1082
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 7: changes to my game, and in my fight with Tom,

1083
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 7: you know, in July, I really wasn't able to showcase

1084
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 7: the changes made in my game because the changes have

1085
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 7: mainly been in in wrestling and grappling and that and

1086
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 7: that mass up for me was just kind of stupid

1087
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 7: for me to take him down because I think the

1088
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 7: striking department is such a big gap. You know, I

1089
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 7: wanted to keep the fight seeing the whole time. But

1090
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 7: you know, I'm excited. I'm excited to show my improvements

1091
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 7: and I think being in the game for eleven years,

1092
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 7: this will be my fifty fifth fight amateur and pro.

1093
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 7: I'm really excited to show people that I'm still improving,

1094
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 7: and I am, you know, and I've made a lot

1095
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 7: of changes, a lot of like major changes to my game,

1096
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 7: not not just my new you know, little tweaks. I've

1097
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 7: I've revamped my entire game, and I'm very, very excited

1098
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 7: to show show people. And it's an innimation stole. It's

1099
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 7: not wrestling, it's not grappling, it's it's it's it's everything,

1100
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 7: you know. I'm striking into takedowns, into positions, and I

1101
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 7: really feel good. I feel like I'm the best I've

1102
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 7: ever been. My weight, by far, is the lowest I've

1103
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 7: been in years, since I can start, since I can

1104
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 7: remember starting to fight, by my weights as low as

1105
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 7: it's ever been. And fifty five shouldn't be a problem

1106
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 7: for me. It's usually a really difficult cut I usually start.

1107
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 7: I mean, I've been upwards to two hundred pounds. You know,

1108
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 7: it's not healthy, but I'm usually a lean one eighty five.

1109
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 6: Right, But you are lighter than that.

1110
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: Now you have see light way James Kraus with us

1111
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 3: here on the Anak and Florian podcast. So I know

1112
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: you've got a lot of business endeavors with the gyms

1113
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: and everything else going on in Missouri. So how difficult

1114
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: was it for you to sort of step away and

1115
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 3: maybe heed some control back home and go on The

1116
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 3: Ultimate Fighter? I mean, was that a hard decision for

1117
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 3: you to ultimately go through with that or a no

1118
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 3: brainer for you?

1119
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 6: You know?

1120
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 7: I get asked out a lot like why I went

1121
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 7: on the show in terms of the businesses I really

1122
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 7: try to set up, and it's taken me a long

1123
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 7: time to get it. This didn't happen overnight. But my

1124
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 7: business is to the point where I have other people

1125
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 7: running in I'm not. I can work as much as

1126
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 7: little as I want in the gyms. I love being there.

1127
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 7: I love coaching, and I love I love competing in

1128
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,959
Speaker 7: business as well. So for me, you know, when people

1129
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 7: ask me, like why do you feel, it's because I

1130
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 7: love it? You know what I mean? Why do you

1131
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 7: Why do you train when you don't have a fight? What?

1132
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 7: I love a sport? You know what I mean? Like,

1133
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 7: it's it's to me, it's not work.

1134
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 6: I love.

1135
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 7: I enjoy going in and competing in business and getting

1136
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 7: better in other aspects other than fighting. I think I'm

1137
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 7: just a competitive person, and I want to master my

1138
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 7: craft and whatever I decided to do. So in terms

1139
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 7: of the businesses, they kind of all run themselves, you know.

1140
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 7: We have everything systemized to where you know, other people

1141
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 7: are doing jobs without me. I can insert myself as

1142
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 7: much or as little as I want. But in terms

1143
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 7: of the show, I think there's multiple ways to win

1144
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 7: the show, you know, and I've talked about this before.

1145
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 7: Obviously there's the competition, which Jesse Taylor won. But in

1146
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 7: terms of, like you ask anybody, I feel like if

1147
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 7: he did a poll and online pool who won the show,

1148
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 7: who got the most from the show, I think it

1149
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 7: hands down me. I don't think there's anybody etten close.

1150
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 6: I think that's you.

1151
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 7: Know, obviously Jesse won the competition, but I won the show.

1152
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so real quick, So your first four

1153
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 3: pro fights were in Missouri. Nine of your profits overall

1154
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 3: in the show Me state, the last of which came

1155
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: against Toby I Maada back in twenty thirteen. I know

1156
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: you weren't able to fight in Kansas City in April,

1157
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 3: but any any added meaning for you competing here in

1158
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 3: Saint Louis. Alex White's a Missouri native too. I wonder

1159
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 3: who's going to have the crowd. But anything extra special

1160
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 3: for you about January fourteenth being that it's in Missouri.

1161
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, look at that was my last fight was

1162
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 7: in Missouri for RFAU before I got to the UFC,

1163
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 7: was in Missouri. But I feel like I'm a I'm

1164
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 7: a pioneer for Ken City. And then I mean, this

1165
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 7: is not like California or Florida where there's a diamond,

1166
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 7: doesn't we're talking about like, look, man, we don't have right,

1167
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 7: we don't have very meaning. You know what I mean?

1168
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 7: Like this is I'm I'm one of the first guys.

1169
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 7: I'm one of the first people to do it. You know,

1170
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 7: there's there's other people, so I want to I.

1171
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 6: Mean, this is huge. You know.

1172
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 7: I want to be people talking about Kanpas City in today.

1173
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 7: You know, I want to be bigger than Ken City

1174
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 7: and they obviously, but when people talking about km's city

1175
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 7: and then I want to be the guy you know, hey,

1176
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 7: James did this. He was the one that set the

1177
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 7: path for us. That's my goal. I want that. And

1178
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 7: so for me, I think a win against another Missouri guy, Uh,

1179
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 7: it's huge for me. It's huge for me and I've

1180
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 7: always always fought for the title. But I'm not the

1181
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 7: best whiteweightter Welterwaite in Missouri. I'm the best fighter to

1182
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 7: ever come out of Missouri, and you know, from Missouri,

1183
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 7: I'm the best fighter to ever come out of the state.

1184
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 7: That's the title that I want to hon and uh,

1185
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 7: I know there's uh, you know, there's there's people that

1186
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 7: that have you know, obviously Woodley's from here, but would

1187
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 7: be you know, Woodley goes and does this stuff elsewhere. Man,

1188
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 7: I'm I'm based here. I'm from Missouri is mine, you

1189
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 7: know what I mean? Like, yeah, I just even recently

1190
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 7: over the last two times, when I go away for camps,

1191
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 7: I go away for like a couple of weeks time.

1192
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 7: The majority of my train is done in Missouri. And uh.

1193
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 7: In terms of who's going to have the bigger crowd out, uh,

1194
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 7: Alex ye Frum Saint Louis. But there's no doubt in

1195
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 7: my mind that I'm gonna.

1196
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: Have a bigger and better crowd doesn't surprise me. I

1197
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 3: love the conviction, man, I know how much you have

1198
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: to prove it is Alex White against that man, James Cross.

1199
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 3: January fourteenth. You can see it on FS one real

1200
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 3: quickly before I let you go. So Tim's opponent, Pietro

1201
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 3: Manga this past weekend failed to even make it to

1202
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: the scale, so of course the fight didn't happen. Tim's

1203
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 3: campaigning to get on this UFC two to nineteen card,

1204
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 3: which is twelve days away, but because he doesn't want

1205
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: to lose the training camp. I know you're his right

1206
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: hand man. I mean, it can't benefit you any to

1207
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 3: have to to go to Vegas and do another fight

1208
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: week with him. I mean, how how do you navigate

1209
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 3: this whole dynamic if he actually gets that fight he's

1210
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 3: looking for.

1211
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 7: Well, I'm gonna let you guys in. It's just a

1212
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 7: lucky days, lucky day, John. We actually just accepted a

1213
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 7: fight on the thirties for Tim, and I'm just gonna

1214
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 7: bring my coaches out to Vegas and I will continue

1215
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 7: my training camp and so we're we're gonna bring a

1216
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 7: crew out there to work with not Wow myself, but

1217
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 7: work with Zach and then you know, obviously we'll make

1218
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 7: sure Tim's take the cant.

1219
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 6: Of the world.

1220
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 7: But uh, yeah, we just accepted the fight, so we'll.

1221
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 3: Be on that card, and of course you'll be there

1222
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 3: and you wouldn't have it any other way. James Krause,

1223
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: you can see him fight January fourteenth. It's a Sunday

1224
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 3: show on FS one with the Missouri Masses behind him. James,

1225
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 3: thanks for the time today, man. Our condolences to you,

1226
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 3: and certainly if you could pass them along to Tim,

1227
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 3: we'd appreciate it. Wish you all the best January fourteenth, man,

1228
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 3: and of course moving forward, we'll be watching.

1229
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 7: All right, all right, thanks guys, I appreciate you have

1230
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 7: me on.

1231
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: All right, there is James Kraus with us on the

1232
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: Anak and Florian podcast. And you know, when I was

1233
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: growing up in radio, they said, you know, they'd teach you,

1234
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: but like a kicker, right at the end of your interview,

1235
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: you'd have a question.

1236
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: And I never liked the kicker, you know.

1237
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 3: I mean, we've done like rapid fire questions on the

1238
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 3: way out, but I never liked having a kicker. But

1239
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 3: I figured time permitting, I would ask him about that

1240
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 3: Pietro Manga fight flow. And obviously that didn't happen. So

1241
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: they're getting a fight, so probably not ideal for James.

1242
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: You see, he's grabbing the bull by the horns, but

1243
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 3: probably not ideal for him to have to, you know,

1244
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: deal with travel reservations and everything else and put a

1245
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: Vegas base camp together for a week. He will have

1246
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 3: a little bit of time when he gets back to Missouri.

1247
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: But hey, Tim Elliott getting a fight, and I think

1248
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 3: that's good for him. I think he deserves it, and

1249
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 3: especially given all the circumstances, Kenny, that's going to be

1250
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: an emotional walk for for not just James in January,

1251
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 3: but man, Tim Elliott making that walk without Robert fallis

1252
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 3: in Vegas no less twelve days from that.

1253
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 5: Pretty crazy, yeah, Man, no doubt about that. That's got

1254
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 5: to be tough, you know, Tim, at the end of

1255
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 5: the day, though he's a fighter, He's put in a

1256
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 5: tremendous amount of work. I know he's been talking about

1257
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 5: wanting to fight on Twitter, and the fact that he

1258
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 5: got one, and he got one on this quick overturnaround, yeah,

1259
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 5: is great news. I'm happy for him, and I think

1260
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 5: in a lot of ways he probably also wants to

1261
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 5: kind of, you know, in some ways put this away

1262
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 5: from him so he can kind of deal with the loss.

1263
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's actually dealing with the loss

1264
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 5: necessarily right now. I think he wants to just go

1265
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 5: out and fight so then he can kind of really

1266
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 5: take in what just happened, which is just an awful thing.

1267
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 5: And I'm sure he'll be dealing with that with that

1268
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 5: for a long long time. You know, him and Robert

1269
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 5: were very close. I know he moved out to Vegas

1270
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 5: to exclusively train with him for a long time. So

1271
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 5: just a very tough, tough situation.

1272
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Elliott said he's having a hard time sleep and

1273
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: he's just hellbent on getting a fight. And you heard

1274
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: it here potentially first from James Krause Tim Elliott getting

1275
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 3: a fight at UFC two nineteen.

1276
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 4: All right, let's get to Ray Longo.

1277
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minute, and I'm.

1278
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 6: Going to punch a hole in this fucking That's what

1279
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 6: I want.

1280
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: The Ray Longo Minute during Ray Longo is the John

1281
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: Nick and Kenny Florian.

1282
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: Podcast, all right with us on the guest line for

1283
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 3: his weekly Ray Longo minute, of course, is the great

1284
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 3: Ray Longo and and sort of a somber tone to

1285
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 3: the show today, Ray in a lot of respects. I

1286
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 3: saw the picture that you posted of Robert Fallis and

1287
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 3: Chris Leeban and Matt Sarah.

1288
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 6: Uh.

1289
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: Just a profound loss here for all of us in

1290
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: this very close MMA community, and a stunner that the

1291
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 3: man Robert Fallis is no longer with us.

1292
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 4: Man.

1293
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I tell you, uh stinks. And you know, Rob

1294
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 8: was a really nice guy. And even when I posted

1295
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,959
Speaker 8: the picture, I mean I really did want to send

1296
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 8: that to him, and I you know, I I kind

1297
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 8: of put it up to almost symbolize that if you

1298
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 8: got something to say to somebody, or you want to

1299
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 8: tell somebody, I'm what.

1300
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 6: You love him, like, do it now? Because who would

1301
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 6: have ever thought this was gonna happen.

1302
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 8: And you know, I don't think he ever, He probably

1303
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 8: would never remember that picture in a million years.

1304
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 6: I mean it had to be.

1305
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 8: I think it was when Matt Fort Carol Parisian we

1306
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 8: were in Atlantic City and I'm gonna say probably the

1307
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 8: first time I met him.

1308
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 6: And you know, he brought a couple of.

1309
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 8: Guys to the Ring of Combat show show at times,

1310
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 8: and he was always a gentleman and was always good

1311
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 8: catching up with the guy and well, yeah, crazy man,

1312
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 8: I mean, like I don't know, I mean, you know,

1313
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 8: it's it's it's funny how you know people sometimes present

1314
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 8: themselves in a in a nice way, but you never

1315
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 8: know what's going on, you know, inside of a lot

1316
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 8: of people. And you know, I kind of said that

1317
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 8: last week, like with al Joe's lows and people, are

1318
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 8: you okay? And yeah, I'm definitely okay. And you know,

1319
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 8: I feel bad for the people that win and they're

1320
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,479
Speaker 8: not happy or you know, like, well they're doing good

1321
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 8: and they're not happy. That that's gotta suck me, you

1322
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 8: know what I mean. Like, if there's a reason to

1323
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 8: be unhappy, at least there's a reason. But when things

1324
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 8: are going good and you're not feeling it inside, that's

1325
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 8: got to be really tough to deal with. Men And

1326
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 8: you know whatever, man, he was a you know, good dude.

1327
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 8: Like again, I always like catching.

1328
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 6: Up with him and yeah, what a what a what

1329
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 6: a tragedy?

1330
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 7: Man?

1331
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 6: Nothing else I could.

1332
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 4: Say really just yeah.

1333
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 3: But you know when people say go hug your friends,

1334
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: right or go tell someone you love them, you know,

1335
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: how how often do people actually turn that into action?

1336
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: So hopefully your point doesn't fall on deaf ears and

1337
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 3: Ray I was joking with Kenny earlier, right like I

1338
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 3: finished m seeing A Q and A in Winnipeg This weekend.

1339
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 3: I had a few minutes before the way, and so

1340
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 3: I say, and do I go up to the desk

1341
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 3: and say hello to Kenny or do I go smoke

1342
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 3: weed in the parking lot?

1343
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 4: Right? And what do I do?

1344
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 3: I go up to the desk and I said Hi

1345
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 3: to Kenny because that's my guy. Never get to see him.

1346
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not trying to, you know, pat

1347
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 3: myself on the back, but you should do stuff like that.

1348
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 6: Let me tell you should feel on it.

1349
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 4: If this guy, of course, he likes my life. This guy,

1350
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 4: I love it every time I see him.

1351
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I gotta tell you, that's like Sarah thinking about

1352
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:16,479
Speaker 8: a meatball part.

1353
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 6: Here you go and he comes and says a load

1354
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 6: of me.

1355
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 4: I'd be honest, I'm the meatball palm to John's life.

1356
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 6: I'll take that exactly.

1357
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 4: I'll take that me.

1358
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 6: Oh my god, that's one of the nicest compliments I

1359
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 6: ever heard.

1360
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, especially knowing that how much Matt Sarah likes

1361
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:34,479
Speaker 5: Italian food.

1362
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 3: You know, so, uh, Ray, I know you don't watch

1363
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 3: the NFL on Fox, but did you see the UFC

1364
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 3: on Fox.

1365
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 4: Over the weekend?

1366
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 6: Of course I did.

1367
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 4: What do you think about? Uh?

1368
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 3: Halfayel Dosanzos and uh and the main event went over

1369
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 3: over Robbi Lawler dosanjos Man. Pretty impressive what he's doing

1370
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 3: in this new division.

1371
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, it looks like he's very comfortable. I thought, uh,

1372
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 8: you know, I don't know, you know, where Robbie's at

1373
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 8: in his career. At was the thing with me, you know,

1374
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 8: I kind of think, again three or four years ago, Robbie's.

1375
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 6: Walking right through that guy. But I don't know.

1376
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 8: I mean, hats off the Dosanos. I thought he did

1377
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 8: a great job. He looked very relaxed. He was definitely

1378
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 8: took whatever Robbie had to, you know, give him, and

1379
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 8: he came right back and it was a great win

1380
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 8: for him. I think the you know, those kicks had

1381
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 8: an effect on his leg, they slowed him down.

1382
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 6: But really really huge win for Dosanos. Unbelievable.

1383
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 4: Ray.

1384
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 5: I want to talk about, you know, the fight between

1385
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 5: Riccardo Lomis and Josh Emmett. It was interesting circumstances because

1386
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 5: Emmett didn't make the weight, he was two pounds over

1387
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 5: the weight limit.

1388
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,479
Speaker 4: Theanned up fighting. Ricardo says yes to the fight.

1389
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 5: Josh Emmitt goes out there and delivers one of the

1390
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 5: most brutal knockouts I've seen anything below one hundred and

1391
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 5: seventy pounds maybe whatever, just part of the weight class.

1392
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,959
Speaker 5: It was just nasty. Yeah, what how do you view

1393
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 5: that as a coke? And how do you view that?

1394
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 5: You know, on both sides of the coin there, if

1395
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 5: you're if you're you know, in Josh Emmett's corner or

1396
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 5: if you're in Ricardo Lombis's corner, how do you deal.

1397
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 4: With something like that? Because Emmett had a beautiful performance,

1398
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 4: but he didn't make the weight.

1399
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know, man, know I always I mean,

1400
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 8: I know in the past I've left my guys fight

1401
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 8: on some of the smallest shows, so it's not the same.

1402
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 8: But you know, when another guy doesn't make weight or

1403
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 8: he's a pound over or I was never really a

1404
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 8: stickler for that. I don't I want to believe that

1405
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 8: that didn't have anything to do with it. It was unprofessional, right,

1406
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,959
Speaker 8: But the guy did take the fight in how long

1407
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 8: did he have for this fight?

1408
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 4: Three weeks to a month? Was it a month?

1409
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 6: For a month is enough time to make the weight.

1410
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 8: So you know, it's if if he misses again, I

1411
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 8: would really be harsh on him. But you know, like again,

1412
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 8: I go back to when Chris fort Damien Maya. I

1413
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 8: mean it was like thirty pounds in a week. I

1414
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 8: was begging him to just take the penalty. I mean,

1415
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 8: I just didn't think it was worth to kill your body.

1416
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 8: And you know, you don't want and you want Damian

1417
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 8: Mai to have a fight, you know, So it was

1418
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 8: good that. You know, a lot of guys want to

1419
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 8: stay busy. So I'm sure Lamas, you know, wasn't a

1420
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 8: problem for him. I don't think Glamas is gonna blame

1421
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 8: the weight thing or whatever.

1422
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 6: But you know, we are hitting.

1423
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 8: The point where these decisions are becoming critical, you know

1424
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 8: what I mean. And if a guy can't abide by

1425
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 8: the rules, maybe you should just pass. But I think

1426
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 8: when you're a fighter, you're not going to give a

1427
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 8: shit up the guy's ten pounds over you.

1428
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 6: Want to fight, you know what I mean.

1429
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 8: But a big chance for Ricardo, it didn't pay out,

1430
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 8: you know, big you know, risk for Ricardo didn't pay

1431
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 8: out for him.

1432
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 6: But I don't know, Let's see how it turns out.

1433
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 8: You know. I want to say that the guy because

1434
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 8: in essence, he kind of did Ricardo a favor by

1435
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 8: taking the fight, and I don't know.

1436
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 6: That's why. It's one of those things.

1437
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 8: I think when you look back on it in hindsight,

1438
01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 8: you can come up with a couple of things, but

1439
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, two or three pounds,

1440
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 8: you know, shouldn't make that much of a difference, considering

1441
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 8: the guy didn't have a proper camp to train well.

1442
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 3: I and I would respectfully disagree with just part of that.

1443
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 3: I feel like you got a doc like fifty percent

1444
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 3: pay if you missweight and your opponent accept. I mean,

1445
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 3: because the thing is, Ray is like Emmett weighing in

1446
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: with plenty of time to spare right, Like there's not

1447
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 3: enough a penalty for Josh Emmett. He's weighing in like

1448
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 3: fifty four minutes before the gun to preserve his body

1449
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 3: to optimally compete at the weight the next night.

1450
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 4: You know. So I don't know, man, I mean, I haven't.

1451
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 4: I have a problem with.

1452
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 6: A lot of yeah, I disagreeing. I look, I'm good

1453
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 6: either way.

1454
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 8: If Ricardo said, no, you didn't make the weight, I'm

1455
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 8: not fighting. That's fine, and you know taken it. But

1456
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 8: I think once you accept the fight, it is what

1457
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 8: it is that. That's all I'm saying. I think if

1458
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 8: he would have said I'm not fighting him, I would

1459
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 8: have respected the shit out of that. I would have said, man,

1460
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 8: that's good for him. But you know, these guys that

1461
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 8: want to fight. Man, and I don't know some of

1462
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 8: these guys. You're not going to talk to him and

1463
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 8: tell them I don't think you should fight. But that

1464
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 8: would have either way. But once you accept it, I'm saying,

1465
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 8: then it is what it is.

1466
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I would have one.

1467
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 8: Hundred respected that guy if he said, hey, look this

1468
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 8: was the deal. I had to kill myself to make

1469
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 8: the weight. I'm disciplined, no problem, I'm good either way.

1470
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 8: So I'm not saying I'm just saying I you know,

1471
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 8: I've done it in the past as a coach, and

1472
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 8: I'm not saying it's even a good thing. I'm just

1473
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 8: telling you I've done it and it's always kind of

1474
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 8: worked out for me.

1475
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 6: But you know, ten pounds is a difference. I think.

1476
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 8: Look, even the Athletic Commission, anything over seven pounds, they're

1477
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 8: not letting the fight happen. So that's a great rule too,

1478
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. So how much money, Yeah,

1479
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 8: I think he should fifty percent. I'm good with that

1480
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 8: toe the.

1481
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 5: Early morning, the early morning cuts. I feel like it's

1482
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 5: a double edged sword. You know, if you cut and

1483
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 5: if you weigh in early in the morning, you have

1484
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 5: more time to recover, right, But if it's early in

1485
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 5: the morning, you have less time to cut the weight.

1486
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 5: So it's tough. What do you think about that ray?

1487
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 5: Should it be earlier? Should it be later?

1488
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 6: Uh?

1489
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 8: You know, Like again, I think it's an individual thing

1490
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 8: to each of the guys, and I think most of

1491
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 8: the guys you do like it now they've adapted to it.

1492
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 6: I think it's that your first.

1493
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 8: When it was first happening, you know, there was an

1494
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 8: adjustment period where guys, you know, we're used to that

1495
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 8: extra out would kind of take off the way.

1496
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 6: But so far, for me, the guys haven't been complaining

1497
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 6: about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're doing it right, it should it should help.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, right, yeah, And the only guys complain is me

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01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 6: because I got to get up early.

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Speaker 4: Right exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we are actually off next Monday for Christmas, so

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01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 3: this is likely our last show of twenty seventeen, so

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01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 3: we just wanted to collectively wish you and yours a

1505
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 3: happy holiday season, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Ray long go,

1506
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 3: thank you for everything you do for this goddamn program.

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 3: And you know how much we love you.

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01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 6: Hey, thanks man, and really happy holidays to you guys too.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 6: I really hope you enjoyed.

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01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 8: And again, given the circumstances, make sure you tell your

1512
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 8: wife and your kids how much you love them. And

1513
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 8: it sounds cliche, but you said at the beginning, but

1514
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 8: it really is true. And uh, you know, you guys

1515
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 8: have a great future you have and you live in

1516
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 8: the dream right now and you have.

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01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 6: Great future ahead of you.

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01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 8: I just hope you're happy, man, because like again, life

1519
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 8: is short, but we're all going to go.

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01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 6: And you got to really suck the marrow.

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01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 4: Out of this man, absolutely do.

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01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 8: You got to go for it, and just if you're unhappy,

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 8: change it, man, whatever you like doing, do it as

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 8: bothen as possible.

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01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 6: And I think that's the takeaway. Man.

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01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 8: I really hope the guy rests in peace and he's

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01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 8: in a better place than he was if he was suffering.

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01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 6: But a really great guy. And you guys really really

1529
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 6: really enjoyed the holidays, and really thanks for letting me

1530
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 6: make an ass out of myself.

1531
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 4: Once we got.

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01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: Thanks brother, have at And in terms of giving out love,

1533
01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: can you go hug that dog so it'll stop fucking barking? Yes,

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01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 3: I will, thank you, Thank you, all right, happy, very

1535
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 3: long ago. My dog sits in my little makeshift office

1536
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 3: here in boc Raton, Florida, and through one hundred and

1537
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 3: thirty six episodes, she has yet to bark. See that

1538
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 3: Actually she wasn't alive? Is it? Is it a Maltese?

1539
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 3: It is not a Maltese. It is a Shitsu poodle cross.

1540
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 4: Oh okay, gotcha.

1541
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 3: And with like an inganu type mean streak too as well.

1542
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,959
Speaker 4: All right, final thought, Kenny, Just in terms.

1543
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 3: Of the weight cutting, okay, I have huge respect for

1544
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 3: all the fighters who get animated about this and say

1545
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 3: it's the fighter's responsibility, right, And I understand for someone

1546
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 3: like you, Kenny, it's like you could probably come on

1547
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 3: these airwaves and say, Josh Emmet's up to my shoulder

1548
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 3: and I made one hundred and forty six pounds twice.

1549
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 3: You know, I understand. And but I think it's asking

1550
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 3: a lot of these fighters collectively to just rely on

1551
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 3: on their intellect that all of these guys are going

1552
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 3: to be smart enough to do it the right way

1553
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 3: or compete in a natural weight class.

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 4: It's asking too much.

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01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 3: And I'm just saying we need to protect these fighters

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01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 3: from themselves. And I know a lot of the elite

1557
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 3: fighters who have mastered this cut and their nutrition don't

1558
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, some body or governing body has

1559
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 3: to come to the rescue of the fighters. But to me,

1560
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 3: this is a problem. Something really bad is going to happen.

1561
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 3: We hear a lot of horrible things that don't even surface,

1562
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 3: you know now with the morning way, and I do

1563
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 3: think largely it's the way to go, but you have

1564
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 3: fighters that are sleeping, dehydrated, and all these different issues.

1565
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 3: We have had more issues, I would think statistically since

1566
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 3: we did go to the morning way. And I just

1567
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 3: don't want to see something bad happen, man, And I

1568
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 3: feel like we got to help these guys and these

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 3: men and women from themselves.

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01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 5: No, absolutely, and listen, if you're doing it right, if

1571
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 5: you're doing it the right way, and you're getting on

1572
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 5: top of your weight, the early morning way ends, I

1573
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 5: think are the right way to go because you're going

1574
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 5: to be able to replenish properly, you have more time

1575
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 5: to recover. But at the same time, if you're not

1576
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 5: doing it well and you're kind of cramming for the test,

1577
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 5: it's not the way to go man. And as you said, uh,

1578
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 5: you know, sleeping dehydrated and then not having a whole

1579
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 5: lot of time. You need guys that aren't gonna be

1580
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 5: able to make the weight. Uh, it's just a terrible situation.

1581
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 5: I think it comes down to, uh, really having coaches

1582
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 5: that are going to make sure they're on top of it, Uh,

1583
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 5: making sure, you know, they have the right nutritions. Maybe

1584
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 5: it comes down to having you know, and we do

1585
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 5: have nutritions at the ufc P I right, that are

1586
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 5: all that are available to But who's actually reaching out

1587
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 5: to these guys.

1588
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 4: You know that they got to reach out to these people.

1589
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 5: They got to go out and get help and make

1590
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 5: sure that they're eating well, they're doing all the things

1591
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 5: that they're supposed to be doing. And Uh, yeah, we

1592
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 5: we got to get on top of this, we really do,

1593
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 5: especially with all these fights that we have pretty much

1594
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 5: every weekend.

1595
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:56,799
Speaker 9: Uh.

1596
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 4: It's something that needs to get better, no doubt about it.

1597
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 3: And I'm intending to come down hard on Josh Emmed.

1598
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 3: I thought he owned it and I thought he handled

1599
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 3: things very well. He's a guy who has always drawn

1600
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 3: high praise for his work ethics. So I when he

1601
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 3: says to me inside the octagon on our post fight

1602
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 3: interview that will never happen again. I take him at

1603
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 3: his work. But big picture, something bad's gonna happen, and

1604
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 3: I hope we can get in front of this before

1605
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 3: it does. All Right, a couple of things on the

1606
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 3: way out. So this is our last show of the year.

1607
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 3: Next Monday is Christmas, so we're scheduled to be off.

1608
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 3: Small chance we'll do like a twenty minute UFC two

1609
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 3: to nineteen preview on Wednesday, just so we can get

1610
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 3: Kenny's picks on the main card for that year end

1611
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,839
Speaker 3: pay per view in the main event between Chris Cyborg

1612
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 3: and Holly Holm, because otherwise the main event challenge was

1613
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 3: all over and I would be eating a vege of

1614
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 3: my sandwich either way. We will post Kenny's picks for

1615
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 3: UFC two nineteen on Twitter at Anti Florian Pod. But

1616
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: if we can get everybody at Fox and everybody together,

1617
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: we will maybe try to grab Kenny for twenty minutes

1618
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 3: for UFC two nineteen. Are you on the Fox lot

1619
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 3: this week? For UFC tonight. You're not No, We're off.

1620
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 3: I'll be on the lot for the next fight car

1621
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 3: for the Vegas ones.

1622
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so maybe we'll bang out a quickie.

1623
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 4: Bang out a quickie.

1624
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 3: Better ways to do watch yourself, Johnny, there are better

1625
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 3: ways to put that.

1626
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 4: You've been really, really funny today.

1627
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because you're under slept or whatever,

1628
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 3: but yeah. Also, the third Annual AFPA Awards will be Monday,

1629
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 3: January eighth. Here are the categories. I will make this

1630
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 3: quick slash Team of the Year, UFC Rookie of the Year.

1631
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 3: I'm told zabeat Mago. Med Sharipov has been nominated UFC

1632
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 3: Breakout Star of the Year, Best in Octagon post fight

1633
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 3: Speech of the Year, the Robert Falliss Cornerman of the Year,

1634
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 3: Upset of the Year, Knockout of the Year, Francis and

1635
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 3: Gano nominated. Kenny or No quite possibly nominated, quite possibly nominate.

1636
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 4: Can you imagine if he wasn't nominated, we get attacked.

1637
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 3: Submission of the Year, Fight of the Year, the Adam

1638
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 3: Snacks Geller Memorial, Male Fighter of the Year, Female Fighter

1639
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 3: of the Year, Hottest Male Fighter. So we are looking

1640
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 3: for the most attractive male fighter. Josh Emmett not nominated,

1641
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 3: incidentally for most Attractive male Fighter.

1642
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 4: All right, Ken, well, we gotta go. Merry Christmas. That

1643
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 4: is not yes, Merry Christmas, kid, I love you.

1644
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 5: I love you too, brother, I really made it. And

1645
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 5: thank you for coming and saying hello. Good to see

1646
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 5: your face and fun show.

1647
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 4: Thank you, buddy.

1648
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 3: All Right, Happy holidays, folks, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year

1649
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 3: if that applies. We appreciate every last one of you

1650
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 3: for listening, for coming us up to us in Winnipeg

1651
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 3: and telling us you appreciate the show. We appreciate you

1652
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 3: for everyone listening watching. Thank you. We're backstrong in twenty eighteen.

1653
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 3: I think it'll be the first of the year, Monday,

1654
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 3: January first. We're working that holiday for you. Full UFC

1655
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 3: two nineteen recap. Then until then for the flow and

1656
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 3: everybody at Fox Sports. John Annick signing off for now.

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01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 3: We will talk to you in twenty eighteen. YO, fucking late.

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