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Speaker 1: How funny is that Wolf Blitzer clip? I mean that

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Speaker 2: So when you see the Suntori commercials with Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: In my entire career of telling tons of sharing, tons

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into play and Buck. So we were just

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Speaker 1: We're talking movies Heregories, it's going super political here, you know,

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Speaker 2: Our friend Nick Adams, Nick Adams has been nominated by

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Speaker 1: Where would you want to go? Oh see, I'm eight

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Speaker 1: We got a couple of people weighing in here that

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 4: I love your show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. You can turn down

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Speaker 4: Well, I called in to say that. You know, I

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Speaker 4: went in front of the new Jurassic movie and I

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Speaker 4: just have to say, you'll love it. It was entertaining,

436
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Speaker 4: it was great and just a lot of fun, but

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Speaker 4: super so.

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Speaker 1: If you like dinosaurs and you don't hate fun, which

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Speaker 1: means Buck is out of the equation here, then you

440
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: will probably like the new Jurassic Park movie. Kids will

441
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Speaker 1: as well, I would imagine, because my kids love the

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Speaker 1: dinosaur movies, which is what I'll be taking them too.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about this the Superman controversy?

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Speaker 2: Are you with me? Like, why in the world would

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Speaker 2: you say anything political?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think it's ridiculous. I think Superman is our

447
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 4: hero and you love to go and see him, and

448
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 4: I was excited to hear it was coming out, but

449
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 4: will not be going to the new ones at all.

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Speaker 4: I think it's terrible to politicize it. We all want

451
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Speaker 4: to have some fun and enjoy the movies and there's

452
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Speaker 4: too much going on. My great niece was killed by

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Speaker 4: an illegal just two years ago, so immigration is not

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Speaker 4: on my radar to go and see a movie. And

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Speaker 4: I think it's terrible to put the Superman in that

456
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Speaker 4: kind of, you know, situation. I think, he.

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Speaker 2: Why why is every other country? Thank you for calling in?

458
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Speaker 2: I think about this place. Why is every other country

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Speaker 2: pretty much in the world right? I mean, there's some

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Speaker 2: European countries that I think have have gone down the

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Speaker 2: same pathway as us on this, but all I'll put

462
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Speaker 2: it this way.

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Speaker 3: All not.

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Speaker 2: I cannot think of a country that is non white

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Speaker 2: majority that receives international pressure and internal domestic political pressure

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Speaker 2: to take unlimited people from all over the rest of

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Speaker 2: the world of different languages and cultures, et cetera, illegally yea,

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Speaker 2: or legally for that matter. But why is that? Like, no,

469
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Speaker 2: no one sits around having long conversations like why doesn't

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Speaker 2: Why isn't China. It's a very big country with a

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Speaker 2: lot of space. Then they've got a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: No one's sitting around saying, well, China's the second biggest

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Speaker 2: economy in the world. Why aren't they taking all the

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Speaker 2: Syrian refugees in?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is why I said, I'm either going to

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Speaker 1: be beloved in Japan or hated, because I said I

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Speaker 1: got interviewed about the Superman controversy in Japan, which gave

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Speaker 1: me some sense that it kind of had gotten large,

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Speaker 1: And the guy interviewing me was like, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about the immigrant angle? I said,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. If I were traveling

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Speaker 1: with my wife and she were pregnant and she happened

483
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Speaker 1: to have a baby in Japan, would my kid be Japanese?

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Speaker 2: And he said no.

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Speaker 1: I said, oh, it's interesting because if your wife were

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Speaker 1: traveling in the United States and she happened to have

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Speaker 1: a baby in the United States, your kid would be American.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense to you? Again, this birthright citizenship

489
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Speaker 1: thing is I think a real argument that needs to

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Speaker 1: be won, and when you actually look into it, far

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Speaker 1: from being unwelcoming, racist, xenophobic, most countries do not allow

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Speaker 1: you to become a citizen simply because you're born on

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Speaker 1: the soil. And I've made this argument, I've written it,

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Speaker 1: Hardly anybody knows it. The only reason why we had

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Speaker 1: by soil birthright citizenship, and this is true for almost

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Speaker 1: any country in the New World, is because when we

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Speaker 1: were colonies, there was a fear that if you came

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Speaker 1: over here from Great Britain and you started to build

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Speaker 1: a family here and you decided you wanted your kid

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Speaker 1: to go back to London one day, that that kid

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Speaker 1: would not be a British subject. So when you were

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Speaker 1: born in a colony of Great Britain, you were still

503
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Speaker 1: a citizen of Great Britain. When you were born in

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00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: a colony of Portugal or Spain or France, you were

505
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: still a citizen.

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00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: But you're still subject to the jurisdiction thereof you're still

507
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Speaker 2: a British subject. Eating irony.

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Speaker 1: The irony here to me, Buck is the people who

509
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: claim that they hate colonization are actually arguing for a

510
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: relic of colonization when they are saying birthright citizenships should

511
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: still exist. Now, that doesn't even consider that the historical

512
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: elements of it wasn't like you could know you were

513
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: pregnant in much of history and decide to travel to

514
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: a country to have a baby after you became pregnant.

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00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: You certainly couldn't hop on a plane and go eight

516
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: thousand miles and put yourself in whatever country has the

517
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: most generous welfare benefits that that was not possible when

518
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: we were thinking about these things back in the day.

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00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: It actually used to be the case that it was

520
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: quite risky, defensive, and dangerous to even set foot on

521
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: American shores. Yes, right, so.

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00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: We'll try to get here. God forbid. I mean, you

523
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: look at the history of how people what they had

524
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: to do to get here from all backgrounds, Like the

525
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: travel on ship was not very luxurious. I mean it

526
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: was a brutal, brutal trip that everybody had to take

527
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: to get here. By the way, Joe in Massachusetts, I

528
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't have expected this. He runs a Superman fan page. Okay, Joe,

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00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: what are you seeing? Is the talk on the Superman

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00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: fan page? Political? Did I step into this hornet's nest

531
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Speaker 1: and have no idea what was happening?

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Speaker 3: No? No, you hit it right on the nail. Dude,

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Speaker 3: First of all, longtime listener, first time caller, I love

534
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: you guys. I'm a huge Superman fan. I'm a huge

535
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: Trump fan. Listen. I want to push back on this

536
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: idea that Superman is kind of a political symbol for immigration.

537
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: I get that he came from another planet, but he's

538
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: not an immigrant. He's an orphan. He didn't choose to

539
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: come here. He was sent here as a baby, be

540
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: alone because this world was literally blowing up. He was

541
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: adopted by two small town Americans in Kansas who raised

542
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: him with traditional values, not global politics. He grew up.

543
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: He grew up as Clark Tent, a farm kid, not

544
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: an alien trying to assimilate. So turning him into a

545
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: political metaphor just it just cheapens the story. For me,

546
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: Superman represents universal values like truth, justice, and protecting innocent,

547
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: like you mentioned before, not some policy debates. So we

548
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: need to stop shoehorning modern politics into these classic and

549
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: timeless characters that we have. It's just ruining him in

550
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: my opinion.

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00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, what is what is Superman's position on

552
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: on trans competition in you know, women's sports? You know,

553
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: were you were?

554
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: You blown away that the director decided to step directly

555
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: into the political arena given to your point, you're a

556
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: Trump voting Superman fan. I imagine superhero fandom is pretty

557
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: evenly distributed across the political spectrum, Democrat, Republican, and don't

558
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: care at all about politics. Like I just couldn't believe

559
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: that he was this dumb.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it was a mistake on his part.

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Speaker 3: And the other problem is too, is that Clay, you know,

562
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: are the right leaning Superman fan base is got to

563
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: be silent because we'll be you know, we'll be canceled

564
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: in a heartbeat as soon as we speak up about this.

565
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: So but what does that mean?

566
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Speaker 1: You get canceled on the fan message board? I mean,

567
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: what is cancel you should look like in the Superman fandom.

568
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: Oh if you if you lean right and publicly acknowledge it,

569
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: your your page is marked for black blacklist.

570
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're done, really.

571
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Speaker 1: Even in the superhero community like that fandom, like you're

572
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: not allowed to be a Trump guy.

573
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: Here's a nauseating thing that they're doing. There's people making

574
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: an argument online that saying that truth justice and a

575
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: better tomorrow is better than truth justice in the American way,

576
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Speaker 3: which if we're still this beacon of hope that everybody

577
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 3: seems to enter this country or uh, what's wrong with

578
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: saying we're in the American way? The arguments are are ridiculous.

579
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: They're nauseating, and I wish they would just separate politics

580
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: from this movie. It was the worst thing that James

581
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: Gunn could have done.

582
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Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, But you know, Joe, you're standing strong. Do

583
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: not kneel before Zod, my friend. Do not do it.

584
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: Don't don't let them get you.

585
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, and I appreciate all that you guys do.

586
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: Keep it up. Thank you guys, Thank you man, thank you.

587
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: Let's get Oh we got a VIP email here from

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Speaker 2: Ann agree on Superman and Gene Hackman was the best

589
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: Lex Luthor. I forgot Gene Hackman was in the movie.

590
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: I did forget that too, So I can't necessarily weigh

591
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: in heavily on that one. But I do think that

592
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: those Superman movies. I remember that those Superman movies, like

593
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Speaker 2: when I went to camp in the late eighties early

594
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Speaker 2: nineties and it was a rainy day. I feel like

595
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: we always had the Superman movies. That was what they

596
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Speaker 2: always would go to because people like them. There was

597
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Speaker 2: no real violence, I mean, no one. You know, people

598
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: are shooting raised out of their eyes and flying around.

599
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: It's not really violent stuff. But yeah, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: go see this. Though I'm not gonna go see the

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Speaker 2: Superman movie. I have to say, I think it's probably

602
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: gonna be trash because all the other ones that I've

603
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: seen recently, which is not you know, it was in

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Speaker 2: the gym yesterday, Clay, and there was a Superman that

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Speaker 2: wasn't a Superman movie. I guess it was a Avengers

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Speaker 2: or one of those movies, and Ben Affleck was Superman.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know that was a thing, ben.

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Speaker 1: Affleck, that was Batman versus Superman. I think Ben Affleck

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Speaker 1: was in the DC comic movie. And I'm now sounding

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Speaker 1: like the nerd, but I believe that was the movie.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're familiar with Geshtad guy, but

612
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: he's got a very line that applies here. A la

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00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: poobelle that movie, A la poobelle. Not good, not good?

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Speaker 2: there you go, all good things there. And then the

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Speaker 2: other thing I was gonna say is Clay, Well, I

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Speaker 2: noticed that yesterday you mentioned our YouTube channel, which we

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Speaker 2: live is YouTube dot com slash at Claynbuck, So you

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Speaker 2: gotta put the at in there, YouTube dot com slash

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Speaker 2: at Clayenbuck. We're gonna be doing more and more video stuff,

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Speaker 2: especially going into twenty twenty six. We're already putting up

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Speaker 2: a lot of clips and fun stuff there. But you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe if we get a few, if we get a

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Speaker 2: nice bump today in the YouTube channel, we'll throw a

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Speaker 2: little I'll make a baby speed appearance. My son will

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Speaker 2: all of you to see. I am telling you, and

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Speaker 2: not just because I'm his dad. He is cuteness level

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Speaker 2: So I just wanted to go over one hundred K.

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Speaker 1: Now, I think that dangling a baby video performance is

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Speaker 1: It's all they visit. You've got kids and grandkids. You

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Speaker 1: you can find the cases. The argument's fun and serious

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Speaker 1: you get us over one hundred thousand subscribers? How quickly

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Speaker 1: can you do it? Get signed up? I want to

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Speaker 1: see these numbers pop. Final hour of Thursday next