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Speaker 1: what do they want us to do? Just die twind

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Speaker 1: and solar good luck? Yeah, that's I mean, that is

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Speaker 1: kind of the that's what they're saying right now. I

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Speaker 1: was testified on a subcommittee hearing earlier today and that

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Speaker 1: was the conversation. Um, they're they're sort of kind of

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Speaker 1: crossing their fingers and hoping, mats uh, the storage will

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Speaker 1: pan out. And yeah, the battery storage of Campbell battery store,

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Speaker 1: that is that is many years away, and that only

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Speaker 1: that doesn't actually generate any electricity, right, that just helps

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Speaker 1: to store some of the extra So like just a

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Speaker 1: vast amount of mining truly incomprehensible for California's needs. I

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Speaker 1: feel like there's a bunch of like six year olds here. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: this is so childlike and not smart children either. I well, Eric,

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Speaker 1: it was good to talk with you. We actually, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: People are coming around, and I was just gonna say

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Speaker 1: people are coming around to this. They did a poll

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Speaker 1: on statewide public support for Diablo Canyon. It's up to

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Speaker 1: fifty eight percent. In San Luis, Obispope County is seventy

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Speaker 1: four percent. Three quarters of the people are in support

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Speaker 1: of keeping this plant running right now. So I think

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Speaker 1: the state legislature just needs to catch up the public sentiment.

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Speaker 1: You know, even the Europeans have a lot of nuclear,

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Speaker 1: don't they. Oh yeah, quite a bit. France, of course,

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Speaker 1: gets almost seventy percent of the electricity from nuclear, and

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Speaker 1: now they are talking about expanding building a bunch of

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Speaker 1: new plants. Same thing in the UK. Many many countries

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Speaker 1: are looking at that, and even Germany, famously anti nuclear,

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Speaker 1: Germany is reconsidering closing their last three plants now seeing

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Speaker 1: how dependent they are on Russia for gas. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: the winds are definitely blowing the right direction. I just

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Speaker 1: hope they're blowing hard enough fast enough. All right, Eric,

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Speaker 1: thanks for talking to us. We appreciate it. Thanks so much, guys,

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Speaker 1: appreciate Eric Meyers, executive director of Generation Atomic dot Org.

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Speaker 1: More coming up. Yeah, there's four hundred and forty nuclear

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Speaker 1: power reactors in the world, four hundred and forty. So

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Speaker 1: for all the people afraid, there's four hundred forty of

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Speaker 1: them out there, and there's tons of desalination plants around

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Speaker 1: the world. We should have them here, John and Ken

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Speaker 1: calf all right, Well, you know when the John and

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Speaker 1: Ken Show, one person when it comes to climate change

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Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense to us is Biorn Lomborg. Yes, Biorn,

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Speaker 1: he's been on our show many times. He writes columns

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Speaker 1: about it. He does believe in climate change, but he

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Speaker 1: believes that the tactics being pursued are so often fruitless

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Speaker 1: and they're damaging to the economy. It's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of other ideas and you can find that out in

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Speaker 1: his numerous books. Remember the name b j R. N.

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Speaker 1: Born Lomborg. Anyway, he's a contributor to the Wall Street

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Speaker 1: Journal and he weighed in on this bill that they

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Speaker 1: passed in the Senate, which has got a lot of play,

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Speaker 1: particularly from the progressive media. Oh my god, it's breakthrough.

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Speaker 1: It's a climate bill. It's supposed to also battle inflation. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's about drug prices. You probably know about it as

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Speaker 1: Schumer mansion bill, and it's expected to pass the House

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Speaker 1: and be signed by Biden very soon. Well beyond Lomborg,

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Speaker 1: it took a look at the estimate for carbon dioxide

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Speaker 1: emissions reductions from this bill that they're touting as unbelievably

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Speaker 1: breakthrough when it comes to climate change. He plugged in

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Speaker 1: the specifics into the United Nations Climate Model to measure

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Speaker 1: the impact on global temperatures by the year twenty one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind the keyword there is global. He finds

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Speaker 1: the bill will reduce the estimated global temperature rise at

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Speaker 1: the end of this century by point zero two eight

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Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit. That's in the optimistic case. If it doesn't

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Speaker 1: work out too well, the temperature difference will be point

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Speaker 1: zero zero zero nine degrees fahrenheit. So that's a lot

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Speaker 1: of work for what will only amounts to a fraction

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Speaker 1: of a changeation two hundredths of a degree. It goes

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Speaker 1: on to say in this editorial in the Journal, This

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Speaker 1: isn't surprising. No matter what the US does to reduce

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Speaker 1: greenhouse gas emissions, it will be dwarfed by what the

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Speaker 1: rest of the world does. China, India, and Africa aren't

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Speaker 1: about to stop burning fossil fuels as they developed, and

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Speaker 1: China is sprinting ahead to build huge new cold capacity

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Speaker 1: despite its pledge to start reducing emissions after twenty thirties.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what this really is? People are so

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Speaker 1: stupid and like easily manipulated. They're gonna be handing out

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Speaker 1: tax money to people's friends of their starting companies in

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Speaker 1: that particular energy sector. It's going to be free money

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Speaker 1: to people that they're politically connected to. It's exactly like

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Speaker 1: high speed rail. Right, fourteen years of high speed rail

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Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars, there's no track laid down.

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Speaker 1: They don't even own the land to lay down the

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Speaker 1: track yet. Blah blah blah blah. We all know that story.

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Speaker 1: So what's happened though, Contractors, engineers, architects, unions with their

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Speaker 1: labor members, they've all profited from the billions of dollars. Right,

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Speaker 1: they're the ones politically connected. They contribute to the campaign.

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Speaker 1: They've made these demands to pass these bills to make

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Speaker 1: this phony rail line. It's the same thing here. In fact,

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Speaker 1: you're right. The Journal says three hundred and sixty nine

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Speaker 1: billion will come from taxpayers and drug companies and go

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Speaker 1: to the pockets of green energy businesses and investors picked

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Speaker 1: will be picked by the politicians based on grants and

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Speaker 1: tax credits. Do you know how many companies or how

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Speaker 1: many business people seeing this scam coming down the road,

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Speaker 1: and they incorporated their companies maybe a few years ago

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Speaker 1: to get themselves ready for the big deluge, and this happened.

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Speaker 1: Obama was president company. All right, they spent they folded. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they spent millions and millions of dollars on some green energy.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's a scam. There is no green energy

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Speaker 1: products or services that these people are gonna make. They

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Speaker 1: just have a bunch of toddler fanatics screaming at them

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Speaker 1: that the world is going to end. We're all gonna die.

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Speaker 1: It's been taught in the schools. That's why we had

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Speaker 1: that story yesterday that the majority of children in western

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Speaker 1: nations are terrified about the climate. Right, and so what

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Speaker 1: you have now is a ready made audience to wildly

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Speaker 1: applaud any green energy bill that passes because signaling exciting,

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Speaker 1: because these silly, innocent children in the gen Z generation

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Speaker 1: have no idea that they're being cynically manipulated by a

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Speaker 1: bunch of criminals in Washington who are virtue signaling congressmen

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Speaker 1: and senators who have lobbyists who you know, beg them

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Speaker 1: to shovel all this money to their clients, and in return,

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Speaker 1: the senators and congressmen get a cut, they get massive

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Speaker 1: campaign donations over the table, under the table's and that's

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Speaker 1: what's going on here. There's there's nothing anyone's going to

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Speaker 1: do with this bill or this spending or whatever that's

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Speaker 1: going to have any impact on the climate. And they

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Speaker 1: also know that, they know that. But because all the

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Speaker 1: screaming toddler activists are so crazy, they don't know they're

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Speaker 1: being played. They don't know this is going to have

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Speaker 1: no effect on the climate, they won't admit that there's

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Speaker 1: nothing we can do that we'll have an effect on

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Speaker 1: the climate. Nothing. But it's a great industry, isn't it.

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