WEBVTT - #47 Like Apples and Onions 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.480 Hell, I Suck Good Dating with Dean Vanessa and Jarrett 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:10.440 and I Heart Radio Podcast with Dean, Vanessa and Taylor. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:15.600 Hello everyone, Vanessa, you want to take it away every 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:18.280 goodness good. I was gonna say good morning. Well that's 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.040 actually a good afternoon right now in Montreal, but good afternoon. 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.840 Welcome to another episode of Help I Second Dating. I'm 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.599 in Montreal right now with my dear friend Taylor Nolan 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:31.880 from my season, and we got some real juice. We 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.040 have some juicy gossip for you guys, fun story gossipy. 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.120 But uh, you know, since it's a dating podcast, figured, 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.280 why don't we share some of our dating stories. But 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.919 I'm just gonna throw Taylor under the bus and I'm 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.239 gonna here you under keep Mike the private and we're 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.000 gonna talk about Taylor. Well, we did a poll actually 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.200 on um We did a pull on Instagram to see 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:56.360 if people wanted to hear Taylor's dating experience, and I 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:00.880 paid yours and I put in quotation. Experiences of my 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.480 followers were like, yeah, let's hear Taylor stuff, and a 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.200 hundred percent of mine so that they wanted to hear. 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.520 They all gave them options of yes and yes girl. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:15.119 So we were on UM a camp conference retreat fireside 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:19.160 It's called fireside conference UM two hours or three hours 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.640 actually was traffic like five hours away from Toronto. So 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:26.360 Taylor met me in Toronto after she did Good Morning America, which, 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.000 by the way, we never spoke about. What do you 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:32.640 think of Colton being the new Bachelor? Dean? I'm excited 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:39.400 for his journey? Um, are you by Bachelor? I've met Colton. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.440 I like Colton. Um, he's a good guy. I wanted 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.959 Jason just because he has the charisma that I think 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.200 would be interesting to watch a lead. Colton, of course, 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.600 has that storyline that we've been become very familiar with 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.280 over the past six seven months. I mean, it'll be 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:54.640 a good season. I'm excited to watch. What do you 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:56.920 guys think? I do like Jason to Jason's in Seattle, 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.720 and I have met him and have Yeah. Yeah, everybody 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.640 thought the day just because we went for happy hour, 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.760 It's like, no, we're friends. Is what people do as 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.840 to take a picture with like the opposite sex. People 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.720 automatically think you're dating them anyway. So I'm excited for 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.040 Colton too. I met him at in in l A 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.239 at a wedding and he was just like so sweet 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.839 and innocent. So I'm excited to see and I hope 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.200 they don't make their whole season about him losing his virginity, 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.200 because I mean, there's more to him than that anyway. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.320 So we went to camp Fireside, and this is Taylor's 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.639 first experience and in Canada. Well, I mean, yeah, kind 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.240 of Saundays. So Taylor, do you want to take it away? Oh? Wait, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.520 hold on? So I'm starting a YouTube channel, right, So 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.240 I'm starting to vlog everything, and I'm really bad at it. 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.960 I recorded like half of my face because I don't 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.680 know like how to position my camera because it's not 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:43.799 the same angle as a phone. So I'm like, hey, 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.160 we're at camp Fireside and we're registering here and I'm 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.040 in the letter G because my last name is G. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.800 And oh, look at Taylor. Taylor's already making a friend 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.040 and I have like her first encounter with this guy. 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:57.040 We're not going to give his name, but her first 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.360 encounter with this guy where she's shaking his hand and 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.680 he's shaking her hand and they're both exchanging like their 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.200 names and hellos and whatever, and I'm like, oh my god, 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.600 that's so cute. Cut to basically a couple of days 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:13.360 later where they're like hanging out. Okay, just gonna to 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.320 tell the whole story. Look here, Okay, I'll let Taylor 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:17.560 take it away because I don't want to give it 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.280 too much. No, no, no keeping keep anyway. So they 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.240 were just like he was just like really nice and 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.600 like normal and not part of the industry or you know, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.200 had no idea who we were, had no idea what 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.120 the show was about, and it was just the refreshing, 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.840 you know, to just like have a genuine conversation with 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.240 people who want to be friends with you for who 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.880 you are and not because of the story that you 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.040 come with. So they started talking and we all started 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.320 hanging out because we have zero We had zero WiFi there. 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.800 We were like, we're gonna make friends. The first night 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.400 we were so nervous, had zero WiFi. They had a 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:53.839 cab a cabin set up with a WiFi uh thing. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.920 And I was like, I'm so tempted to go. Because tempted, 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:00.640 I was like, oh my god, who's messaging me? Is 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:08.600 it a boy? No? It was your boys anyway. So 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.480 let's just say Taylor had lots of fun. Taylor might 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:20.480 be moving to Canada. I'm not moving to Canada. Um, 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.560 but no, it was really good experience overall, like connecting 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.560 with you and connecting with the whole community and just 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.000 like really being present and um oh my god. I 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.080 met someone and he like shared a lot about his life, 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:37.120 like before we even actually started, Like the minute he 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.599 said he has a farm and could build a fire, 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.720 I was like drop and he literally built us like 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.599 an amazing fire. Yeah, he really did. It was like 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.800 from nothing, Dean know. We stayed up until seven o'clock 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.800 in the morning, singing songs with the guitar around a campfire, 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.320 around a campfire. It was it was the most ride, 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:01.160 all our eyes out. It was just you so like 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:05.120 humbling anyway. So wait, so tell me more about this guy. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:09.440 Did you guys make out? Did you? Yeah? That's a yes, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:16.920 that's yes. I mean how how honest do I completely 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:21.279 and utterly are to anything? I mean, I like, um, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.960 you know, exploring people in all kinds of way that 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.400 sounds like third base so um so no. So I 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.480 was like very hesitant because obviously, you know, it's like 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.240 we're there for three nights. It's like this very it's 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.080 very specific context you know, and it's like, oh, well 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.719 then if we are intimate, then like do we try 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.520 to have it be a thing? Then what after that? 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:44.279 You know, and like you ask yourself all these questions. 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:49.360 And we were intimate. We were we were all we 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:54.760 were intimate, um and um. But it was really beautiful. Actually, 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.480 we like, so we're at this camp and like you 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:02.200 can literally see the Milky Way galaxy like you you 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.320 feel like you're in Star Wars. It's beautiful. And there's 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.240 like this lake and we went up like to the top. 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:13.159 There's like this swim tower, big slide, and so we 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.720 were up at that um and literally just like underneath 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.440 the stars we saw like not not even kidding, like 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:23.680 twenty shooting stars. Like it was so I was fast 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.599 asleep alone. It was like minus two degrees. I was 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.240 wearing three layers of clothing with nine covers on top 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:33.719 of me with the hat on in my bed by myself. Yeah. Well, 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.120 good for you guys. I have a question for you 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.320 as it pertains to our listeners and our audience out there. Then, Taylor, 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.359 you said that this guy opened up to you about 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.120 things that you didn't expect him to open up to 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.159 you about. So early. Do you think that he maybe 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.520 jumped the gun on it. It It sounds like you you 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.160 appreciated it, But I feel like there's a fine line 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.320 between opening up about things too early that are too heavy. No. 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.560 So he like basically the first night when we were 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.240 all talking, he was just kind of like giving us 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.719 a speel of like what he does is and like 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.039 a lot of that pertained around food and about farming, 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:08.640 and um, I do I really do food? And like 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:10.440 being connected to my food. Maybe you should have been 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:15.480 on Crystal Season. Interesting, um, but no. And then he 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.560 started talking about like empathy and like connection to community 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.120 and all this stuff. And so it wasn't anything like 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.800 super personal that he was sharing. It was more just 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.040 like the things that he's passionate about sharing, and he 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.720 had no clue and like Vanessa was just staring at 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.920 me like the whole time as he's talking to us, 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.360 and I was like check check check check check. Oh 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:37.000 I would be the maid of honor but um but no. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.600 And then like later, you know, as we kept talking 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:42.600 throughout the conference, like we've each slowly opened up to 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.480 each other but had really great conversations. And that's where 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.560 it was kind of like the whole purpose of the 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.280 conferences like to be present and disconnect, And so for me, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.440 I was like, I'm gonna be would you compare this 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.920 to paradise? Like, because on paradise you spend so much 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.160 time with the person. Is this kind of like a 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.280 paradise thing? I don't know if that that I bring up? 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:05.080 Like PTSD, my roommate always says you have to disconnect 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.920 to connect. This was one of those situations. Absolutely. It 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.240 was because it was like I could be all in 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.160 my head about like, well, what is it after this 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.040 and what does this mean? And am I am I 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.400 to them? And it was like I was just like, 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.000 you know, I'm made me present. I'm gonna let it 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.760 flow wherever it flows. And so do you guys like 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.400 sleep intense? How did this? It's like wood cabin? It 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.640 was a wood cabin, but it was cold end. There 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:32.640 was a chipmunk or something that went inside taylor backpack. Yeah, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.600 and ate her chocolate. Well, Vanessa, so we keep hearing 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.240 about Taylor's sexcapades. I want to hear something about you. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.439 I just told you I was wrapped in nine blankets 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.320 with five different layers. The best thing to do in 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.360 those situations it's not blankets, it's body heat. Well, let 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.080 me tell you. So when the first night we snuggled, 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:51.720 the first time we snuggled and then she ditched me, 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.920 but we were when we stayed up till seven o'clock 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:55.719 in the morning. There was this one guy that was like, 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.199 we had a private cabin. Everyone just texted me shut up. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.720 So he we had a private cabin. Everyone else was sharing, 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.559 like with maybe five other people. So we were like 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.520 the cabin that people wanted to come to because we 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.720 had to two rooms, we had a couch and everything. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.400 So this guy's like, uh, can I come and see 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.080 your cabin? And I was like, oh, yeah, whatever, So, 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:17.480 you know, so he comes to our cabin and he's like, 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.000 I just want to sleep on the couch. And I 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.199 was like, okay, cool, and then said my guy was 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.240 already yeah. Her guy was in the other room and 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:24.959 I had my room to myself. And I'm like, if 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.800 this guy thinks he's going to come sleep with me, 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.600 he has something else coming for him. Like no. So 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.840 he's like, well, unless would you mind if I sleep 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.880 in the bed with you. I was like for body heat, 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.200 for body heat, I was like, I do mind, Like 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.640 for a second, I was like, I'm so cold, maybe, 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.480 but then that just I think that, like I respect 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.120 that both like that guy and the guy I was 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.840 with were very aware of consent. Like before my guy 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.679 kissed me, he like straight up was like, yeah, like 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:54.520 I want to let you know that, you know, I 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.679 really want to kiss you. And I only bring it 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.959 up because he now consent sexy and like the way 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.200 he did it. I was like, yeah, it's sexy, and 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.400 I like these Well this guy was like very respectful too, 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.320 you know, and he was like singing songs and I 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.480 was like, maybe we can keep singing songs, but no, 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:09.960 I just wanted to go to bed and have my 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.400 own surprivacy on her mind. Maybe maybe I have someone 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.520 else on my mind. Maybe I don't. We're at the 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.280 discussion recently about whether a guy should ask permission before 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:21.800 he kisses because Tanya Erica Sissony on the radio show 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.880 with RN Seacrest, they all agree. They all said no, 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:28.840 he should just own it for it. Wait the girl 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.560 said no, that he should go for it and go 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.160 for it, don't ask permission. It seems pretty unanimous. In studio. 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.360 Toris even nodding her head yes over here, that you 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.520 shouldn't you shouldn't have to ask for it if the 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.080 feeling is right. See I partially agree with that, But 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.720 my last two experiences of like kissing a new person 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.800 um both have actually addressed it, and it's like the 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.760 way that they've brought it up that's been very endearing. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.920 But so again, I think it depends how you go 0:10:56.040 --> 0:11:00.520 about it. So it was Jason and this guy Jason 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:08.600 that was good maintenance man was so Taylor, how does 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.720 it how does the relationship exists outside of this conference 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.080 for you? Then with this guy Okay, Dean, Okay, I 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.439 want to I want to take over. I'm hijacking this story. 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.480 So I'm you know how I'm going to Bally right, which, 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.080 by the way, we have to figure out where we're 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.000 staying in Bally, so I need to help send us 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.880 Bolly suggestions. So we're I thought we were leaving this 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.240 whole time. We were like leaving the time. I thought 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.320 we were leaving the thirteenth, and we wanted to extend 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.160 our trip. So we're supposed to go from until the twentieth. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.240 And I call the airline yesterday and I was like, 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:36.880 we would like to extend our trip until the twenty. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.320 He's like, Okay, man, well you are departing on Wednesday, 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.240 September twelfth, and I was like, like he keeps going 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.120 and we both look at each other and are like, 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.440 I'm like, oh my god, I have so many appointments 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.320 set off for Wednesday, Like I thought we were leaving 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.920 on Thursday. And this whole time, Taylor literally falls to 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.400 the floor peas in her pants and I just hear 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:58.160 go to the bathroom. Was like, so basically what happened 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.000 was this dude like I'm from camp, the guy from 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:02.880 campus from Canada, and he's like, I really want to 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:04.800 see you before you head out west, and you know, 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:06.320 I think it's like meant for us to like hang 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.360 out before you leave. He was really sweet. He really 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.040 credit if I didn't try to come and see you. 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.679 So he got an airbnb for the both of them, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.640 sold his tickets to this festival that that was going 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.160 on in his city, and was coming into town to 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.319 spend time with her on Wednesday night. But little did 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.040 we know, we're going to be on a flight to Bali. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.920 And literally he had booked all of this ten minutes 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.720 before called the airline. So funny. I felt so bad. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.160 I called and I sang, justin Bieber's is it too 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.080 late to say I'm sorry? I don't think I'll be 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:36.760 honest with you. I don't think that's funny at all. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.720 Sounds really really frustrating for that guy. He was really 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.440 is this your yes? It is so yeah? Now he 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.439 was very and like, honestly, I really liked and this 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.280 is actually good thing to bring up. I think. Um 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.640 he had texted me and was like, he said that 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:54.880 he's just feeling really sad, angry and exhausted and frustrated. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.640 And Vanessa was kind of like, oh no, I don't 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.240 like that. No, like like, no, he shouldn't be respected 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.000 like that, like that's too much. And I was like, no, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.840 I appreciate that he can acknowledge how he feels right now, 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.480 and like I totally understand where he would feel that 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.520 way right but I feel like he didn't put his 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.880 emotions in check and was just like and then he 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:12.880 asked no, no, because then he asked like, can you 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:14.600 guys push your trip to Thursday. I was like, dude, 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.880 we're going to Bally, We're not going to Toronto, Like 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.360 we can't push our trip a day. But the way 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.280 he said that was like joking, because it was like, 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.520 how many other things can we do to see if 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.720 maybe we can work something that. I'm really surprised you 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:27.480 just said that, because I feel like all he's doing 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.360 is communicating the what he's feeling, and now you're kind 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.960 of crucifying him for you. No, I wasn't. No, I 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.160 just I was frustrated. The whole situation was really frustrating 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.920 for all of us, um and the fact that I 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.240 had to I had a guy, no appointments, I had 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.240 to cancel, and just things that I had to do 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.160 on Wednesday, And I was like, well, you know, we 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.400 all had to move our things, and it is an 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.360 unfortunate situation. And I'm a true believer and things are 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.920 meant to be. I believe in signs. So was you know, 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:56.400 I'm like, oh, maybe it wasn't meant to be for 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.000 you guys to like meet up right before we go 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.160 to Bali, you know. But anyway, so I don't know, 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.280 I think that you're being a little selfish you Vanessa. 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:05.960 I think that if the roles were flipped and you 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:07.840 were tailor in the situation, you would be much more 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.600 willing to push it to Thursday no, never, are you kidding? 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.079 And you'd be much more receptive of his emotions as well. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:15.720 That's just my that's just my take on it, right, 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.600 maybe a little bit more receptive. I just didn't appreciate 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:21.520 that comment of like can you move your flight? And 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.800 I'm like, well, I think also, had you heard how 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.360 he said it, you know that he wasn't serious about it. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.400 He was just because you just look like how many 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:33.160 other things like you know, yeah, anyway, but now but 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:37.840 now I'm going to I'm going to go see him tonight. 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.040 Oh good? Yeah, wow, So this is kind of serious 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:42.920 all of a sudden, just just like that. It's funny 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:47.040 how quickly he shared that he's a bit of like 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.840 a hopeless romantic and I'm totally not. And listen, I 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.920 was like team whatever his name is. From the beginning, 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.720 I'm like, because Taylor is not like that, Like we're 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.040 such opposite. She tells me like Vanessa could go with 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.200 the flow, like stopped overthinking things, and so it was 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:01.840 like I start liking a guy. I'm like, oh my god, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.960 like let's very like black or white. Yeah, let's go, 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:06.360 you know, And she's like, just go with the flow. 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.680 And I'm like telling her I appreciate that he's very romantic, 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:15.040 and he's and you became super giddy yesterday, and because 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.880 the whole day that he planned was the most adorable thing. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:19.640 It was like we were going to go to a 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.520 market and grab a bunch of food and take it 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.960 back to the airbnb and like click dinner together and 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.760 like listen to music and Dan, I'm surprised you didn't 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.000 have an experience like this when you were traveling for months. 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.120 What do you mean Europe? Oh? I briefly heard you 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.360 mentioned something when we were but it was, like I 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.720 think it was. It wasn't an extended like you got 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.440 you have, Like did you have like a little romance 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.880 when you were away traveling. No, I did not. I 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:47.000 feel like there was something in in Bali. No. I 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.120 met with my friends and Bali, but there was nothing 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:54.560 like I'm surprised why I think we're so good looking. Well, 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.000 I appreciate that you were also very good looking as well, 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.000 and I feel like you didn't have the same experience 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.360 to this camp head. You're right, I didn't, but I 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.120 also don't think I also don't think you were open 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.240 to it. Right on my traveling expeditions, it wasn't a 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.200 priority of mine to be on the lookout for people 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:15.480 to speaking of like memories and all that stuff. 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So, as we 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.399 often do on this podcast, we like to have, you know, 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.439 marriage and family therapists come on and discuss kind of 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.359 what they do, what they work with, and how they 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.800 might be able to help our listeners and obviously ourselves 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.359 as well. So we're going to move on to speaking 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.840 with Hailey Hewitt, who is a licensed marriage and family 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.240 therapist with private practices both in l A Bay Area, 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:12.720 UM who works as families, individuals, all that kind of stuff. So, Haley, 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:16.560 are you there. I am Hi everybody, Hi, how are you? 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:19.560 I'm great? How's it going? Oh we're doing great. Thank 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.760 you so much for joining us today. Um so I 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:23.800 just give a very quick introduction, Haley, but if you 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.159 want to, do you mind telling us the listeners a 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.080 little bit more about yourself and kind of what your 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.840 background is coming from. Of course. Yeah, So in college 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.400 I started actually in film and TV. My projects we're 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.760 all about the human condition, and neither professor tell me, 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.240