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Speaker 1: Oh, time waste tasker's up to Welcome to one to

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Speaker 1: task along with Maddie Glab on a beautiful, beautiful day

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Speaker 1: in Western New York. I've already been out already today

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Speaker 1: just absolutely fantastic out. Um. These are the days when

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Speaker 1: Western New Yorkers have got it all over everybody. This

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Speaker 1: is this is when you want to be here? Am

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Speaker 1: I right? Totally? This relates. I think Western New York

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Speaker 1: it does. I now listen, I went to school in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: It'll probably be a million bucks. I could afford that,

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Speaker 1: fall or the winter is gonna look like. These all

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Speaker 1: scenarios we don't know. And that's the craziest part. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Steve taskromatic glad we're here till three one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. We've got a great show for

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Speaker 1: you today. We've got some cool guests coming up today.

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Speaker 1: We've got they we're gonna come on earlier in the

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Speaker 1: week and then because of all the things that happened

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Speaker 1: and some with the Sabers and all of that, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have Joel Corey on today, former agent who is

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Speaker 1: now a capologist for CBS Sports, and also from the

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Speaker 1: Boston Globe, Boston Globe, Ben Volin, who is a national

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Speaker 1: reporter on the NFL. Both those guys are gonna come on.

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Speaker 1: Joel Corey's coming on at one o'clock, Ben Valens coming

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Speaker 1: on at two o'clock. A lot of stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I want to wish a good buddy

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Speaker 1: of mine a happy birthday, Bruce Smith. I think he

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Speaker 1: turns fifty eight today. I think he's my age, maybe

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Speaker 1: a little younger. Good for him. Congratulations of the he

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Speaker 1: is the one and only two hundred sack guy in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. I've got a little trophy case

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Speaker 1: in my house. I've got a titleist golf ball with

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Speaker 1: the number seventy eight on it that says two hundred

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Speaker 1: sacks on the side. Oh, that's cool. That's pretty cool,

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Speaker 1: Pretty cool. Yeah, I've got that in my trophy case.

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to him. And also, for those of you

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Speaker 1: who live around the Orchard Park area, you'll know this guy,

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Speaker 1: Ray Carlton. You don't know him, do you, Maddie, unless

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Speaker 1: you heard me talking about him before the show. Just

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Speaker 1: from me, He's talking about him before the show. Ray

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Speaker 1: Carlton turns eighty three. For those of you who don't

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Speaker 1: remember who Ray Carlton is, he's a former Buffalo Bill

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Speaker 1: wide receiver and he is the first Buffalo Bill to

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Speaker 1: ever score a touchdown. Ray Carlton turns eighty three. Congratulations

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Speaker 1: to him. Congratulations to my friend Bruce Smith on his

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Speaker 1: birthday today. Had to get that out. That's kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: Ray Carlton eighty three today an Orchard Park resident. That's

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Speaker 1: very nice. That's pretty cool. I hope you're on the

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Speaker 1: radio wishing me a happy eighty third birthday and I'm

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Speaker 1: still hanging around here. You're you're still gonna be co

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Speaker 1: hosting One Bill's Live. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll see, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. Steve Tasker, Maddy Glad. A lot of going

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Speaker 1: on today. Thanks for John, we also have let's get

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Speaker 1: let's put this out there before we before we go

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Speaker 1: to break the Twitter poll for today. We're getting close

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Speaker 1: to training camp and we don't know what it's actually

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Speaker 1: going to look like, as you can tell from our

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Speaker 1: from our you know, conversation we've just been having. But

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Speaker 1: here it is, what's the biggest question that needs to

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Speaker 1: be answered during training camp? What is the big guest

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Speaker 1: question that needs to be answered during training camp? And

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Speaker 1: I've been such a mess this morning. I haven't even

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Speaker 1: had a chance to retweet this or even answer it

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Speaker 1: or even get the you know, the the choices through

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Speaker 1: my head. I think what they are. Let me just

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Speaker 1: look at the at the wait if I got this

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Speaker 1: on here? No, I don't, Mattie, help me out. I

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Speaker 1: got hip you all right? Help me out? All right?

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Speaker 1: Save me. What's the biggest question for the Bills that

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Speaker 1: must get answered in training camp? Is it A did

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Speaker 1: Alan improve deep ball accuracy? B? How will the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver depth shake out? See will bubble players get a

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Speaker 1: fair shot in d which veteran players need to prove

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Speaker 1: his worth? Let's see A did Allan improve deep ball accuracy?

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Speaker 1: That is currently leading with seventy four point six percent

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Speaker 1: of the votes in second not even close to the

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Speaker 1: first one d which veteran player needs to prove his worth,

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Speaker 1: that is at twelve point eight percent. So I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, whenever we put Alan in an option, it's

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Speaker 1: usually the favorite. Yeah, but he's the quarterback, so that's

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah. And it's interesting too because we

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Speaker 1: had you know, we always go through these and we

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Speaker 1: always and some of them will ask him to say, well,

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Speaker 1: except for Josh Allen, who is a b or site

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean kind of thing, but we

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Speaker 1: are the guy is such a focal point for the

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Speaker 1: team because this is as strong a roster as this

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Speaker 1: club's put together since the nineties. This team has got

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Speaker 1: some guys, Maddie. I mean that. I mean I go

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Speaker 1: out and I watched these practices and I'll say, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: he's pretty good. He's pretty good, you know. But when

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Speaker 1: you go out there and look at this roster when

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Speaker 1: they hit the field, and I've even seen this roster now,

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Speaker 1: I'm just kind of taking it for granted, and from

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Speaker 1: past experience, you look everywhere and it's like, Wow, they

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Speaker 1: got some guys. This is gonna be a fun year.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you know Bills fans, you know the

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Speaker 1: Bills fans that are the ones that are the happiest

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Speaker 1: when they have something to complain about. We all know

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Speaker 1: you know who you are. This is a great year

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Speaker 1: for you because the Bills have got a really good

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Speaker 1: football team, they got a really good coaching staff, they've

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Speaker 1: got continuity, they've got it all going on. And now

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Speaker 1: the league now the seasons in jeopardy, which is you know,

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Speaker 1: just absolutely, I mean you can't. It's just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's like, are you kidding me? You know you got

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Speaker 1: to you put together a super Bowl roster and there's

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Speaker 1: no season. Thanks thanks for stopping by Buffalo, Bills. You

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Speaker 1: were the favorites this year. We'll see how you do

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Speaker 1: next year. I mean it is just oh, what is

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Speaker 1: so maddening when you think about it? Right, But that's

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Speaker 1: really the the Twitter poll. You're right, what's the biggest

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Speaker 1: question for the Bills must answer you. I want to

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Speaker 1: see if Josh did that thing with the deep ball? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: did he fix it? We know he's been working on it.

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Speaker 1: You know he's been working on it. We'll see, all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, all right, No, Joel Corey coming up at

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Speaker 1: one o'clock. He's the former agent now he's a capologist

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Speaker 1: for CBS Sports. Ben Volein of the Boston Globe coming

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Speaker 1: up at two o'clock. Steve Tasker, Maddi Glab coming back

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Speaker 1: at you. What's the biggest question that has to be

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Speaker 1: answered in training camp for the Buffalo Bills. You can

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Speaker 1: tweet at us or call us at eight h three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty. We'll take your calls at eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty if you're out of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo area. This is Buffalo Bills Radio, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: Mattie Glab, presented by Kalidah Health. This is one Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: Blocking backs. Askromatic Glab. We're here till three o'clock. Later

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Speaker 1: on in the show, Ben Voleen's gonna drop by the

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Speaker 1: Boston Globe and also Joel Corey. He's a cap guy,

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Speaker 1: a capologist for CBS Sports. He's a former sports agent

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Speaker 1: as well. He's coming on at I believe two o'clock.

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Speaker 1: I think I got that He's coming on one and

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Speaker 1: the other guys i've Ben Villin's coming on two, right. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so what's the biggest question that needs to be answered

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Speaker 1: during training camp. We started this right before we went

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Speaker 1: to break at eight h three h five fifty. If

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Speaker 1: you want to call and talk to us, or if

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Speaker 1: you're outside of Buffalo eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

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Speaker 1: you can call in. I got a bunch of responses already,

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Speaker 1: and what's the biggest question that needs to be answered

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Speaker 1: during training camp? The first one off the block is Drew.

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00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: He says, it's d I don't think we need we'll

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Speaker 1: see Alan's true accuracy until real game scenarios start testing him.

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Speaker 1: A lot of young talent on the team, and it'll

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Speaker 1: be critical for vets like Haushka and others to prove

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Speaker 1: their worth. It's always a problem, and it's always a

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Speaker 1: huge issue. And it used to be Maddie when I

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Speaker 1: came in, even when I came in the league back

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Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties, in the last century, wow, decades ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it used to be a real like an old saying

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Speaker 1: a wive's tale or whatever whatever. There's in every training camp.

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Speaker 1: There's always a surprise veteran who doesn't make it, a

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Speaker 1: favorite or a guy who you thought, wow, I didn't

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Speaker 1: even think about him not making it. There was always

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Speaker 1: one of those guys on every team around the league.

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Speaker 1: Every year, even on the same team every year, there

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Speaker 1: was one guy that's like, Wow, he's gone. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe it. And smart veterans and you don't get to

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Speaker 1: be a veteran unless you you got a little something upstairs.

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Speaker 1: They know nothing's guaranteed and if if their financial situation

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Speaker 1: and their roster situation intersect at the right point, they're gone. Right,

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Speaker 1: So that's It's something every veteran thinks about it. And

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Speaker 1: I think proving your worth as a veteran, you know

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Speaker 1: that there's a lot of things that go into it

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Speaker 1: off the field, so you take you take everything seriously.

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Speaker 1: Rookies tend to think that it's all about every rep

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Speaker 1: in practice, and they don't tend to put as much

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Speaker 1: emphasis on being early for me to things, and you know,

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Speaker 1: being attentive and asking questions and you know, being a

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Speaker 1: good student. I guess veterans know that that's what you

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Speaker 1: have to be as well to make the team because

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00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: it all goes into the pot. So there's always a surprise,

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Speaker 1: and I don't it'll be interesting to me to see

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Speaker 1: if there is one of those this year for the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Number two. Mario says, I chose d so

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Speaker 1: two days in a row. It's almost time to start

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Speaker 1: to give new contracts to some of the guys who

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Speaker 1: have been here for a few years. Being has some

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Speaker 1: huge decisions to make on who gets paid, because I

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Speaker 1: doubt we will be able to keep all of our

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Speaker 1: best players. And that's something that's so true. I mean,

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Speaker 1: veteran players having to prove their worth. These are contracts

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Speaker 1: that that could be cut because Being and McDermott are

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Speaker 1: trying to save up to renew the contracts of the

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Speaker 1: few young players that they want to look at as

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Speaker 1: the building blocks of this culture and of this team,

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Speaker 1: which is still a very young core. Veteran leadership is

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Speaker 1: very important to this team, but they're leaning on guys

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Speaker 1: like Josh Allen, Trey White, Tremaine Edmonds. They want to

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Speaker 1: look at that group Dean Dawkins as as your foundational

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Speaker 1: pieces to this team. And they're going to have to

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Speaker 1: open their wallets to pay these guys as their contracts

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Speaker 1: come up within the next few years, and if there's

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Speaker 1: some veterans that have to be left in the dusk

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Speaker 1: because they need to pay the players that are the

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Speaker 1: foundational pieces they're they're gonna have to do that. Unfortunately. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not unfortunate. I mean it's good to have players

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Speaker 1: you really want to pay. It's really good to have

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Speaker 1: players who are kind of earning their second contract and

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Speaker 1: want to be, you know, pillars of the of the team.

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Speaker 1: You got to find a way to do it. I

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Speaker 1: think it's smart now. And I and when Murph and

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Speaker 1: I used to talk about, you know this, it's like, wow,

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Speaker 1: it's almost time for Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott to

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Speaker 1: start thinking about getting an extension, you know, because now

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Speaker 1: it's three years. Two of the three years that McDermott

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Speaker 1: has been the head coach, they've made the playoffs. I

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Speaker 1: mean you can't. I mean, wow, yeah, he's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: But I think also if you look around, it's you've

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Speaker 1: got to be you know, tone deaf or just foolish

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Speaker 1: to think it's gonna be easy. Just it's now the

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Speaker 1: best time to sign anybody to any contract when you've

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Speaker 1: got a season like this one coming up. They've got

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Speaker 1: both have two years left on their deal the way

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Speaker 1: I understand it, and I just think it's a smart

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Speaker 1: wait till after this season, Wait until after this virus

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Speaker 1: goes away, Wait till after an innoculation comes out, a

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Speaker 1: vaccine comes out, where you can get your feet back on,

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Speaker 1: you have a normal off season and start to move

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Speaker 1: forward again. And then you know you've still got two

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Speaker 1: years to get these guys signed. I'm sure they love

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Speaker 1: what they've built here, they want to be here, and

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Speaker 1: there's no question they deserve whatever rays is commensurate with

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Speaker 1: the NFL head coach and GM goodness gracious, so we

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Speaker 1: you know. Now, it's like I was thinking, Wow, they

643
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: should start thinking about this, and then the pandemic hits.

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Speaker 1: It's like no, no, no, it's not the best. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's just hold off for a minute. But there's no question.

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Speaker 1: You know, you start with Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean, and

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Speaker 1: you go down and you start looking at the young

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Speaker 1: players on this roster that are lining up to get

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Speaker 1: paid and get into their second contract. Yeah, they've got

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Speaker 1: That's I think the next big thing for the for

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Speaker 1: this organization on the horizon is getting the right people

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Speaker 1: signed long term and continuing to build on what they've

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Speaker 1: done and developing the young players they have. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the next big thing is the financials. Just as

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Speaker 1: they got out of financial jail, now they've got to

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Speaker 1: make sure they can get to a place where they

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Speaker 1: don't go back to prison, right right. And I think

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Speaker 1: another important piece of this equation is retaining your support

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Speaker 1: staff as well your your coaching staff. Brian Dayball, Leslie Fraser,

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Speaker 1: Joe Shane, Dan Morgan. These are all really great coaches

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Speaker 1: and great people in the personnel department that have gotten

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Speaker 1: looked at before by other teams for head coaching jobs

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Speaker 1: or for different jobs or general manager positions that hopefully

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Speaker 1: they'll be with the Bills for the next few years.

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Speaker 1: But as this team wins more games and gets better,

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Speaker 1: the spotlight on them gets bigger, and other teams who

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Speaker 1: are looking to rebuild and build a winning culture or

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Speaker 1: a new culture are going to look to teams like

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills to see who can we get from

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Speaker 1: their staff that can implement something similar here. That's right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, no, you can see it. There's always going

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Speaker 1: to be an owner Maddie that brings in Brian Dable

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Speaker 1: or brings in Leslie Frasier and brings in Joe Shane

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Speaker 1: too as a GM candidate, and they go. You know

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Speaker 1: all that stuff that you did over in Buffalo, let's

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Speaker 1: hear about it. And they, you know, tell them, you know,

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Speaker 1: the interview processes. Well, how did you guys do this?

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Speaker 1: How did you guys do that? They? Okay, um, do

679
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: that here? Thanks, you know, here's your contract us two.

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Speaker 1: You know this kind of the me too attitude. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's I'm in a different way, you know, do that

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Speaker 1: for us. That's exactly what we want you to do here,

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Speaker 1: just like you guys did it in Buffalo. And that's

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Speaker 1: what happens. So and the more successful McDermott and being are,

685
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Speaker 1: the more likely it is that it's going to be

686
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Speaker 1: hard to continue to evolve and to maintain it. And

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00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: that's always been there kind of mantra not not allowedly,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure that this is what it isn't listen.

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Speaker 1: We got to keep this going. We can't have a

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Speaker 1: window that slam shut. You know, we've got to remove

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Speaker 1: the walls. We've got to be successful all the time.

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Speaker 1: Our expectations have to be there all the time. We

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Speaker 1: have to replenish all the time. You can't tear it

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Speaker 1: down to build it up again. You know, We've got

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Speaker 1: a good foundation here, let's keep building on it and

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00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: refurbishing and renovation aiding and that kind of thing. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of where they're at. But you know that Brian Dable,

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Speaker 1: he was a finalist for the Cleveland job this year.

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Speaker 1: Leslie Frazier is a guy that I'm I'd be shocked

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Speaker 1: it's been a head coach before. I would be surprised

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Speaker 1: if Leslie Frasier's not a head coach next year. I know.

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Speaker 1: I think he's bound at some point in the next

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Speaker 1: few years. Right, He's going to get looked at hard. Yes, Right,

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Speaker 1: he is way too good of a defensive cordet or

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Speaker 1: not to get looked at for a head coach job. Right.

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Speaker 1: What's the biggest question that needs to be answered for

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills in training camp? Take one more before

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Speaker 1: we head off? Tiffany says this from the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan's, the official movers of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, Corrigan Moving Systems. She says, a player I've

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00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: had high hopes for is Trent Murphy. He needs to

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Speaker 1: build from his solid finish to last season with a healthy, strong,

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Speaker 1: impactful camp. In my opinion, he was starting to get

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Speaker 1: healthy in making play with youth on the depth chart

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Speaker 1: and a big contract. He needs to shine this summer.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who who've you pointed the

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Speaker 1: finger at Trent Murphy. For most of them, it starts

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Speaker 1: with his contract. You know, he's making eight or nine

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year, and most people think for that

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Speaker 1: kind of money, he's supposed to get twenty sacks. I'm exaggerating,

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Speaker 1: not twenty, but you know what I mean, right, He's

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Speaker 1: supposed to be on the cover of Madden for that

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Speaker 1: kind of money, and it's not quite true. But you

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Speaker 1: still like to see the guy do some things. He

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Speaker 1: had higher percentage of snaps than any other defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: last year. He played a ton and I think he's

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Speaker 1: the kind of guy that fits what they want to do.

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Speaker 1: I think he's the kind of leader they want. So

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Speaker 1: he's got a lot of that going for him. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's true he's going into the last year

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Speaker 1: of his contract. But I think this too, Maddie. Generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, once you've got your roster set,

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Speaker 1: they don't think too much about the contract. The Bills

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Speaker 1: have twenty million dollars in cap space now, what's another

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Speaker 1: eight million going to give them? There's they don't need

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Speaker 1: anybody they're right, you know what I mean, Right, they

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Speaker 1: don't need to go out and get a left tackle

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Speaker 1: for fifteen million bucks a year. They don't need that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. They need that money and either roll

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Speaker 1: it over in the next year or whatever, you know, Right,

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Speaker 1: So they don't need that eight million bucks this year

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Speaker 1: to get them to where they want to go. And

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Speaker 1: Trent Murphy may be a difference maker for them the

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Speaker 1: way he was late last year. Yeah, I look at

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Speaker 1: Trent Murphy as somebody who can help this defensive line,

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Speaker 1: this defensive line that's becoming younger and younger every single

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Speaker 1: year with sha Shack Lawson and Jordan Phillips leaving. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have Jerry Hughes, you have Trent Murphy, you have

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Speaker 1: Mario Addison, but you have Ed Oliver, you have Aja Avanessa,

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Speaker 1: you have Darryl Johnson, all these younger players that are

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Speaker 1: starting to come in. I think Trent, Trent still has

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Speaker 1: a valuable year left where he can teach these younger players,

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Speaker 1: which is one of the most important parts you know

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Speaker 1: about being on a defensive line as as your entering

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Speaker 1: your final, you know, few years of being in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and of a deal on a team. Yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Maddie Glab here till three o'clock. Come back

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Speaker 1: and join us. Give us a call at eight to

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty. We can take some calls right

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Speaker 1: after this break if you want to. At three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty. This is One Bills Live presented by Kalida

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Speaker 1: Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bills

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00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: Live Steve Tasker along with Maddie Glab. For those of

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Speaker 1: you'd wondered went tomorrow. A lot of stuff is closed

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Speaker 1: down tomorrow for Juneteenth Holiday, June nineteenth, commemoration of the

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Speaker 1: end of the Civil War and the slaves being freed

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Speaker 1: by the Emanciplation Proclamation so long ago, and plus with

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Speaker 1: the social strife that we have been experiencing for the

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Speaker 1: past few weeks. We're gonna stay on the air tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna We've got a couple of things we're doing. Maddie.

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Speaker 1: You We're gonna air an interview that you did with

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Salgado and who is coach for the Bills, and

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Speaker 1: Nathan's Hair, who is a professor of world history at

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00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: Madai College an interesting interview. We're going to air that

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Speaker 1: whole thing tomorrow. You don't have a problem with that,

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Speaker 1: do you? If us putting it? Not at all. It

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00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: was such a great conversation, and I think it's important too.

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Speaker 1: It's going to go out on social media tomorrow as well,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's important to get it out there

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Speaker 1: on as many air waves and as many different platforms

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00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: that we can because to hear Nathan and Jimmy talk

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Speaker 1: about what's going on in our country following the death

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Speaker 1: of George Floyd and protests to follow and you know,

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Speaker 1: a cry for police reform and for systemic racism to end.

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Speaker 1: It was just great to hear their thoughts on the subject.

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Speaker 1: Nathan Hare, who's also the CEO of the Community Action

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Speaker 1: Organization in Buffalo, had a lot of great things to say,

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Speaker 1: just from his background being in Buffalo for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I think he's I think he grew up in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: but very insightful on all of this. Lot to say,

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of good advice and a

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Speaker 1: lot of good points and a lot of ways that

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Speaker 1: we should be looking at all of this. And Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: who's the Nickel, coach for the Buffalo Bills. Jimmy Selgato

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Speaker 1: also had a lot of great things to say as well,

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Speaker 1: just information about how he's been interacting with his players

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00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: as well as his kids as it relates to this subject,

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Speaker 1: what he thinks we can all be doing during this time.

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Speaker 1: And he has a pretty interesting background about how he

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Speaker 1: got involved. He is from His parents are from Peru

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Speaker 1: and Dominican Republic, so he has a cool background just

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Speaker 1: on how he's also experienced some of this. He's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily black, but his parents do come from different backgrounds

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Speaker 1: and moved into New York City when they were young adults. Right,

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Speaker 1: So we've all that's going to be interesting. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: play that whole interview tomorrow. We're also going to have

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Speaker 1: Heath Farwell, special teams coordinator for the Buffalo Bills, on tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna be on the air again. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a fun show, a really fun show. Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: Mattie glab here, we're gonna take a break. Coming up

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Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, Joel Corey's coming on.

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Speaker 1: He was a former sports agent for Players Represented Players.

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Speaker 1: Now he's a cap guy for CBS Sports, a cap

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Speaker 1: analyst for CBS Sports and we are going to have

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Speaker 1: him up at the top of the hour, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: Mattie Glab presented by Kalidah Health. This is One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Oh A great time by Steve Glasker to the Donks

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Speaker 1: Tinks down twasno time. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Mattie Glab and we are pleased

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Speaker 1: to be joined on the line now by former sports

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Speaker 1: a who began his career as representing the players. Now

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Speaker 1: he works for CBS Sports. He's an NFL Contract and

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Speaker 1: salary cap expert, Joel Glory Joel, Steve Tasker, Mattie Glab

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Speaker 1: Here in Buffalo, we gotta begin by asking you the

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Speaker 1: question we ask all our guests. How are you doing

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Speaker 1: during the pandemic? Are you staying safe and well? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: been doing my social distancing. I live in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: so our lockdown and really kind of ended about two

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Speaker 1: three weeks ago. But that being said, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to the Jimmytome soon. Yeah, you know, we've been sitting

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Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. We are we're kind of still all

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Speaker 1: locked down and uh, socially distanced and all of that.

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Speaker 1: We've we've been keeping an eye on the offseason of

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Speaker 1: the NFL and all that's going on. And I gotta

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Speaker 1: I want to know from you. Why is it? What's

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Speaker 1: the language in these players contracts? That why the the

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Speaker 1: most teams have their entire rookie class signed, except it

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Speaker 1: starts in the third round, and it seems like the

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Speaker 1: third rounders is the tricky guy to get done. Why

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Speaker 1: is that? Well, for some reason, when the rookie Wade

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Speaker 1: Scale was implemented, it started that the first two rounds

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Speaker 1: get the maximum of the slot, and then the fourth

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Speaker 1: through seventh rounds get minimum based salaries for four years

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Speaker 1: and a signing bonus. And the third round there's a

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Speaker 1: national negotiation over money it's gotten util where basically the

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Speaker 1: first eight nine ten picks get one hundred percent of

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Speaker 1: the slot and then it's a decreasing amount of the

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Speaker 1: slot for the rest of the round. And really it's

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Speaker 1: negotiation over how much above minimum salaries are you getting

850
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: in those four years. That's why those deals usually take

851
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: the longest. One thing we're seeing this year is that

852
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: teams don't want to pay signing bonuses until a player

853
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: passes a physical and if you're not going to be

854
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: at the facility, you're not going to pass physical from

855
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: the team doctor. And they're not making the same exceptions

856
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: at least those clubs aren't that they were for free

857
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: agents where a physical from an acceptable doctor in another

858
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: city would suffice or signing bonus purposes. And it seems

859
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: like that is a reason why some of these teams

860
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: are lagging and getting rookie contracts signed and rookie classes overall.

861
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: Because the Bills are just one of two teams to

862
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: have their entire rookie class sign that means thirty NFL

863
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: teams don't have their entire rookie class signed yet. What

864
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: else is their reason being because of why some teams

865
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: haven't signed their entire rookie class yet, where are some

866
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: other reasons besides just not being able to get guys

867
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: into pass a physical. Oh, that's the signing bonus issue

868
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: because agents aren't agreeing to that, and the nflpa's told

869
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: agents specifically for certain clubs that you guys need the

870
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: whole firm on that and don't agree to that type

871
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: of language in the contract because if you don't pass

872
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: the physical, then they're not obligated to pay the signing

873
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: bonus and who knows the physical will be passed because

874
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: typically at this time in a normal year, you've got

875
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: over ninety percent of the guy's signed, because by the

876
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: time you break from any camps, which would have been

877
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: from many camps would have been today, you only have

878
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: a handful of players still on sign This is more

879
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: like it was pre rookie wage scale in terms of

880
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: the signing pace. So I think we'll see everything pick

881
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: up as we have training camp about the start, because

882
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: we all know who the The NFL is a deadline

883
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: driven league, so when push comes to show, that's what

884
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: everything gets done. We're talking to Joel Corey, CBS Sports

885
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: NFL contract and salary cap expert. What kind of chilling

886
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: effect has the pandemic and the uncertainty about the season

887
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 1: had on contract negotiations for guys like for the Buffalo Bills,

888
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: like a Tredavious White, or these guys that are like

889
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: a Jalen Ramsey, these guys that are in line to

890
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: sign their second deal in the fourth year their five

891
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: year deal or sign an extension. What kind of chilling

892
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: effect has it had both on the clubs and on

893
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 1: the players. It's more that the clubs are proceeding with caution.

894
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: We haven't seen nearly as many extensions, even though we

895
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: have seen some very big ones, and one that's going

896
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: to affect the Bills because of rising tight lifts off boats.

897
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: Laramie Counsels was done right around the draft that the

898
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: left tackle market or the offensive line market was resetting

899
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: the major way. Where he's averaging twenty two million per

900
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: year and it's on a short term deal, so he's

901
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: get another bite of the apple sooner rather than later.

902
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: So anyone who is particularly Ronnie Stanley, is going to

903
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: affect him, and that other guys are going to draft

904
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: in higher than they would have that if Council came

905
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: in where some people thought he would, which would be

906
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: right around twenty million per year, and that's could that

907
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: could end up impacting the Bills on a Dion Dawkins deal.

908
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of resetting the market, I want to stick with

909
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: Trdavious White. The Bills exercise their fifth year option on him.

910
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: But how important is it to get a deal done

911
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: before Jahillen Ramsey resets that market. Well, if I'm him,

912
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm in no hurry to get a deal done because

913
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: I expect Jalen Ramsey to reset the market major way,

914
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: and I let him do all the heavy lifting, and

915
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: I tell the Bills that whatever he gets is my floor.

916
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: So I don't think a deal is getting done sooner

917
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: rather than later unless the deals, unless the Bills want

918
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: to go out there and pay him a healthy increase

919
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: over Byron Jones and hope that that comes in below

920
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and give him a very good structure. Otherwise

921
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: he has no incentive to go now, because I think

922
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: what's going to happen is you're very good to great players.

923
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what apps to the cap next year,

924
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna get paid regardless. And the reason I say

925
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: that is in two thousand and twelve, the cap went

926
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: from one twenty point three seven five to one twenty

927
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: point six and Carl Knicks reset the guard market in

928
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: a major way. What kind of player One of the

929
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: guys that were asking about in Buffalo is a guy

930
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: and it's there's kind of a niche market there for

931
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: guys like a Matt Milana, who's a fifth round draft

932
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: pick who's actually outplayed his rookie deal. He's coming up

933
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: on it's time to resign him. He's been nicked a

934
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: little bit, a little some injuries, but he's a guy

935
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: that has become a solid starter and a big part

936
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: of their defense. How do these fifth rounders who have

937
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: kind of outplayed their rookie contracts or how are they

938
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: getting treated by clubs overall? Well, that's where teams can

939
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: take advantage of those guys because in terms of NFL standards,

940
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: they haven't made a lot of money. In terms of

941
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: real life standards, they have. So if you dangle a

942
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: lot of money in front of those guys, which may

943
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: not necessarily be their true market value, you can get

944
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: those guys to bite. Whereas if they were first round picks,

945
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: they have already made more money, so they can afford

946
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: to be patient. He's a three down linebacker, so if

947
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: you're going to pay someone a three down linebacker gets paid,

948
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: he's probably looking for Shack Thompson type money, which is

949
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half million per year. If I'm I'm

950
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: just looking the class of off ball linebackers generally, whether

951
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: they play outside or inside. If I'm the Bills, I

952
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: really want to keep them more than the Blake Martinez

953
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: Joe Schobert range and want to pay him roughly around

954
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: ten million per year max. And then finally, Dion Dawkins,

955
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: the Bills left tackle. You came on strong last season.

956
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: He's in his final year of his rookie deal. What

957
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: are his comps? How do you see that working out

958
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: for Dawkins? Well, first guy you pay on a team

959
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: is the quarterback. You don't have to do that for

960
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: a while. The next guy you pay is a guy

961
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: who chases the quarterback, and the third guy you pay

962
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: is a guy who stops the guy chasing the quarterback.

963
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: So left tackles are paid a premium still, even though

964
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: it's not the huge distinction between left and right anymore.

965
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: I'd say DJ Humphries is someone that now the Bills

966
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: would want to look to. He's under fifteen million per year.

967
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: Since Larry Tumpsol's jumped everything to twenty two, there's a

968
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: big jump in left tackles from Tunsil to Anthony Costanzo,

969
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: who's a sixteen and a half million. And in between

970
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: that you've got some right tackles Lane Johnson at eighteen

971
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: and then Trent Brown. It's probably gonna be Dj Humphries

972
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: or a little bit more. But if I'm Dawkins. If

973
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: I think I'm just scratching the surface, I roll the

974
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: dice potentially and play it out if I have to,

975
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: But I don't like where the offer is. What's gonna

976
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: happen in the near future to the salary cap as

977
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: could we see a shrink or be frozen in twenty

978
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: twenty one. I think that it's probably gonna stay flat

979
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: if revenues go down, because this is a long CBA

980
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: and they'll borrow against future learning, spread out the losses

981
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: over multiple years. In negotiation with the NFLPA, the league

982
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: will it'll be kind of like twenty and twelve where

983
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: they pushed back the payment of the performance based pay

984
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: pool money for like two to three years to make

985
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: sure the cap getting decreased because it really should have.

986
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: So I think you'll see something like that, because once

987
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: TV deals are signed, the cap the money's getting the

988
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: revenue is going to go up dramatically and it'll kind

989
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: of take care of itself. But I don't think you're

990
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: going to have a major or precipitous drop in the

991
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: cap down to one seventy or something like that. Next year.

992
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: You said you're expecting Miles Garrett to become the NFL's

993
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: first twenty five million dollars per year non quarterback and

994
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: have his deal beat Joey Bosa's salary floor. If that happens,

995
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: how does that chan change the landscape of the NFL

996
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: for non quarterback players and how much they're making per

997
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: year just for past rushing, So those guys get paid

998
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: at premium, whether they're interior pass rushers like an Aaron

999
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: Donald or three to four outside linebacker or a four

1000
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: to three defensive end. I'm actually surprised and negotiating with

1001
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: him given how things ended last year. I thought, from

1002
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: an optics standpoint, you want to put a little distance

1003
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: and have him get on the field again before you

1004
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: pay him. But if you're trying to get ahead of Bosa,

1005
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: which I expect to be very contentious given that the

1006
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: last time he had a long hold out and that

1007
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: wasn't over money, that was over other issues with the contract,

1008
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: that maybe they can get Garrett to come in under

1009
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: twenty five and they play up the fact that we

1010
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: want to take care of you now, even though you

1011
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: missed the last six games last year, and try to

1012
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: buy some good little that way and get him take

1013
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: a little of a discount that'll make Bosa's deal harder.

1014
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: But I'm not signing unless I'm a twenty five million

1015
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: dollars per year guy. If I'm Garrett, if I'm the agent,

1016
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's all will and good, but you're not

1017
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: getting that discount and the deal really shouldn't be more

1018
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: than adding four new years, so it was under contract

1019
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: for six. We're talking with Joel Corey at CBS Sports

1020
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: NFL contract and salary cap expert. Are athletes at lower

1021
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: levels of football, like in Division one and also high

1022
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: school and are these really nice athletes choosing positions based

1023
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: on the at the end of the rainbow is going

1024
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: to be a different position and a higher pay scale.

1025
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: For instance, running backs, If you're a young kid, you're

1026
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: a great athlete, and they're always handing you the ball,

1027
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: do you know that you're just not going to be

1028
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: playing football for as long as other players, so you

1029
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: kind of maybe switch positions. You go to a safety

1030
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: or a corner or some other positions. Do you see

1031
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: a trend like that happening at lower levels. I don't

1032
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: know if it's happening now, but if they're more enlightened

1033
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: in it's brought to their attention, they'll start doing that

1034
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: to me. It's interesting that Marlin Humphrey is not a

1035
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: running back. His dad, Bobby, was a running back in

1036
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: the NFL, and he's a quarterback. So if he had

1037
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: foughten his dad's footsteps, he would not make the type

1038
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: of money he's gonna make the Pro Bowl caliber cornerback

1039
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,479
Speaker 1: that when they do his extension, it's gonna be most

1040
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: likely more than what Christian McCaffrey, the highest paid running back,

1041
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: is making. He was averaging a shade over sixteen million

1042
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: per year. And specifically, Shack Thompson chose to be a linebacker.

1043
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson at Washington thought running back was his best position.

1044
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: He was he was, he knew what the longs, amity,

1045
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: the self life was for a running back. He chose

1046
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: to be a linebacker. He's not making thirteen and a

1047
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: half million per years. He played running back. So if

1048
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: I had a kid, knowing what I know about how

1049
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: the business works, that was choosing positions to go play college,

1050
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: he's not playing running back. And if he did play

1051
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: running back and he got off to a great start,

1052
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: knowing you have to play three years before your eligibill

1053
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: have three years of lapse from the high school graduation,

1054
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: before your elsbrefore the draft. If he had two great years,

1055
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: he's not playing a third. He's sitting it out. One

1056
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: of the most valentin versatile quarterbacks in the league is

1057
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes right now, I won the Super Bowl last year.

1058
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: He sells a lot left in his tank as it

1059
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: comes to his career. Is he going to be the

1060
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: first two hundred million dollars quarterback? Well, what Patrick Mahomes

1061
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: gets on his contract depends on how much of the

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00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: hammer he wants to use. He has a mental leverage

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00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: if he wants to fully exploit it, He's got a

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00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: lot of options. I personally want to do a three

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00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: year extension so I could get another by to the

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00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: Apple sooner rather than later. He might decide to give

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00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: the chief some sort of slight break. That kick doesn't

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00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: work out well for players when they do that. I

1069
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: remember Derek Carr said he left some money on the

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00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: table so who they could sign other players, And one

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00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: of those players he had in mind was Khalil Mack.

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00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: Who's Chicago Bear. So to me, particularly your first veteran contract,

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00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: take all the money you can get. It's not your

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00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: job and man, it's a salary cap. That's the team's job.

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00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: But I expect him to be the first forty million

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00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: dollars per year player. Just a question of whether he

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00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: gets two hundred million and whether or how many years

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01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: he does three years, two years, four years, or five years.

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Speaker 1: But if I had to sacrifice two hundred million to

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01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: come up sooner rather than later, I'd do that. What

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys and Dak Prescott? That deal that has

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01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: been on the table for it seems like the last

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01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: two years, and Dak Prescott maybe had his best years

1084
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: of pro particularly throwing the football last year. What's going

1085
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: to happen in those numbers? Day? Expect them the cave.

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01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: They liked Dak more so than some people like to

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01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: let on because they could have stuck a transition tag

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01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: on him because he had a glut of quarterbacks on

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01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: the market and then let the market decide what it

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01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: would be in matching offer sheet. They didn't do that.

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01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: They could have given him a non exclusive franchise tag

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01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: where he could shop himself and you get two first

1093
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: round picks compensation if you don't match. They didn't do that.

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01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: They gave the exclusive tag the higher number where it's

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01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: a closed system. They're gonna cave. I think at the

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01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: eleventh hour give him the four year deal, briefly making

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01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: the highest paid player in the league with the most

1098
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: nonball guarantees. But if I'm the agent, if at a

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01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: client would let him do it, I would have told

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01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys from day one, if you don't get this

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01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: deal done, I'm Kirk Cousins part two. And also, if

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01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: there are any intervening events, like as Sean Watson or

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01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes deal, what I'm asking for today will no

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01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 1: longer be available, and we're gonna factor those deals into

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01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: the equation. One of the most shocking picks in this

1106
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: year's the NFL Draft was the Packers taking Jordan Love

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01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: at quarterback. What should the Packers do with Aaron Rodgers

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01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: based on how his contract is currently structured, Yeah, he

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01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: had he kind of knows what Brett Farr feels like

1110
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: now deja vu where he's s's. On the other foot,

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01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be too hard from a cap standpoint to

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01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: trade him next year, unless Aaron's going to force the issue,

1113
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: or they just they're so bad that they don't care

1114
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: about having a ton of dead money next year. He's

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01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: got a cap number of like thirty six and a

1116
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: half million next year, and the dead money would be

1117
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: thirty one and a half million, which would be the

1118
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: largest amount of dead money for a single individual player,

1119
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: because you would trade him before June second, when you

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01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: could split the cap hit over two years. Largest dead

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01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: money charts one player is this year Brandon Cooks twenty

1122
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: one point eight with the Ramps, So that kind of

1123
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: puts in perspective the trade probably happens in twenty twenty two,

1124
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: where you would pick up basically twenty two point six

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01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: million a cap room by trading him in his thirty

1126
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: nine point eight million dollar cap. It comes off the books,

1127
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: but at some point you gotta play up and figure

1128
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: out what he is because the apex the fifth year

1129
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: option after the third year, so app he's played three seasons,

1130
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: so you gotta at least play him at some point

1131
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: to know what he is. So twenty twenty two from

1132
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: cap standpoint, makes the most sense from Green Bay. Moving

1133
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: on from Aaron Rodgers, what players are they're out there

1134
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: that are headed into twenty twenty season that have got

1135
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: the most on the line financially. Certainly you've got players

1136
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: playing into their option year, and I would take it

1137
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: that and maybe it's one of the young quarterbacks. Who

1138
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: do you think that is going into twenty twenty Mitchell

1139
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: Trubisky Kiss, Yeah, if they didn't pick up the fifth

1140
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: year option. So if he actually beats out Nick Foles,

1141
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: which I'm not confident he can, then they'll have to

1142
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: stick a franchise tag on him. And if you can't

1143
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: beat out Nick Foles, he'll be lucky to get Marcus

1144
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: Mariota money, which is top backup money. Two. You guy,

1145
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: guys like David Johnson hasn't done anything since twenty sixteen's

1146
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: life Texans u Juju Schuster was supposed to be the

1147
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: heir apparent as the number one receiver. Two. Antonio Brown

1148
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: grant the quarterback situation wasn't what he expected with Ben

1149
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger going down. But he's got to approve whether he's

1150
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: a number one or he needs another receiver to take

1151
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: coverage your way and he can drive as a number two.

1152
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: Xavier Rhodes really see now the type of year you're expecting.

1153
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: How to him the sign a one one year of

1154
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: modest deal with the Colts. We'll see if he can

1155
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: resurrect his career as well. Who are some players that

1156
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: will have a complicated road ahead, maybe not this season,

1157
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: but in their next contract negotiations coming up. Well, the

1158
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: big one is George Kettle, which he's in a contract

1159
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: year right now. That's the one that UH is going

1160
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: to be very challenging because he's San francisco primary weapon

1161
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: in the passing game, but he's a tight end. My

1162
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: understanding is he wants to be paid like a pop

1163
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: offensive weapon, which means wide receiver, wide receivers, number one receivers,

1164
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: and make anywhere from sixteen to twenty two million per years.

1165
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: I didn't market has been stagging it forever. Jimmy Graham

1166
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: became the first ten million, ten million dollars per year

1167
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: tight end in twenty fourteen from a long term deal. Basis,

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01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper's the top guy right now ten and a

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01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: half million a year, So he's going to reset the

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01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: market for tight ends in a major way to get

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Speaker 1: a deal done. I don't think San Francisco has any

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01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: interests to paint him like a wide receiver. We're talking

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Speaker 1: with Joel core We're just finishing up an interview CBS Sports,

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01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: NFL contract and salary cap expert, you look back over

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01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: the history, and you've done this for a while, do

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01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: you have, off the top of your head, maybe some

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Speaker 1: contracts over the years that have been out of control, lucrative,

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01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: and maybe in each era, which which contracts historically would be,

1179
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, maybe stand out as being abnormal running backs

1180
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: the way they used to be paid back when you

1181
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: played that. Those guys we're making as much as um

1182
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: defensive ends. Like take for instance, like if you just

1183
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: thanks for salary cap inflation, that Chris McCaffrey's sixteen million

1184
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: and his deal would be a little more than half

1185
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: of what Barry Sanders last deal he signed in nineteen

1186
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: ninety seven would be. Said deal would equate to about

1187
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: thirty one point two five million per year. Trow Davis's

1188
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight deal would average about twenty nine and

1189
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: a half million per year. Himmtt Smith would be right

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Speaker 1: around twenty eight. Running Backs don't get paid like that anymore,

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01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: and now that's never gonna happen again. So those guys

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Speaker 1: stick out like a sore thumb. Joel, thanks so much

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01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: for being with us, Thanks for giving us some time.

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01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: Enjoy your expertise. I know the salary cap for most

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01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: of us we stick to generalities. I'm so glad we

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01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: have you on to get some of the nitty grittis

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Speaker 1: of why some of this stuff is so complicated, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for simplifying it for us, Joel, have a great

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Speaker 1: day and thanks are you too. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Joel Corey, CBS, NFL Contract and Salary Cap Expert. He's

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01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: also a former sports agent. Steve Tasker, Mattie Glab coming

1202
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: back later on in the show. We've got Ben Vollen

1203
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: from the Boston Globe coming up. He's a national NFL reporter.

1204
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: We've also got a Twitter poll about what's the biggest

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Speaker 1: question mark that needs to be answered during training camp

1206
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Speaker 1: this year for the Buffalo Bills. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: We're presented by Kalidah Health and this is One Bills Live.

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01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker with Mattie

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Speaker 1: Glab and we were just on with Joel Corey, CBS Sports,

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Speaker 1: NFL Contract and Salarycap Expert. If you want to listen

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Speaker 1: to what he said. The podcast is available on Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: Google Play, Spotify, and of course the Buffalo Bills app

1213
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: and Buffalo Bills dot Com. You can go back and

1214
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: listen to what Joel Corey had to say about the

1215
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Speaker 1: current state of teams and certain players on the Bills

1216
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: roster about their contracts and the atmosphere around the league

1217
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: about signing contracts and that kind of thing. We also

1218
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Speaker 1: had this We're in the conversation about what the biggest

1219
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: question mark for the Buffalo Bills is headed into training camp.

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Speaker 1: What's got to be answered only in training camp. Got

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Speaker 1: a lot of feedback on that. Feel free to join

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Speaker 1: us at eight oh three, five fifty. But this just

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Speaker 1: came across the wire as well, Maddie. A little earlier

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Speaker 1: in the show, the University of Texas is reporting that

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Speaker 1: thirteen of its football players have tested positive for COVID

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Speaker 1: or are presumed positive. All are in self isolation. Ten

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Speaker 1: more are also in self quarantine and asymptomatic. The other

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Speaker 1: ten that are in or just because of contact tracing.

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Speaker 1: I assume thirteen guys went down with COVID and they

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Speaker 1: were at what voluntary workouts, Maddie. That's came after four

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01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: days days of voluntary summer workouts began. And now college

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01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: football is ahead of the NFL right now in the

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01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: sense of they're allowing athletes to come back to their

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01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: complexes and they can now work out and do things

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Speaker 1: like that. So over the last few weeks, we've been

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Speaker 1: seeing schools report that they've had players test positive for coronavirus,

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Speaker 1: which I guess is to be expected to some degree.

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Speaker 1: But thirteen football players is a lot of football players.

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01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: Regardless of how big your rosters, thirteen out of those

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01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: thirteen you have to think at least one of them

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01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: is a starter or has a lot of snaps when

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01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 1: it comes to playing in games in the twenties twenty season. Yeah,

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01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: it's that's not good. I mean, can you imagine going

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01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: to the head coach and saying, coach, we did all

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01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: the testing and now that we've got a dozen plus

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01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 1: guys that are all wouldn't you just like a shut

1247
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: everything down? Turn? You know, everybody wash their hands, get

1248
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: get out of the building, you know, kind of scatter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to get a football season. And at Texas University, well,

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01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, we all know kind of the atmosphere of

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01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,560
Speaker 1: Texas football down there. They probably got one hundred and

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01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: fifty guys on their roster at this point. Yeah, they

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01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: probably got fifty walk on players. Or sixty walk on

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01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: players and sixty or seventy scholarship players, sixty five scholarship players.

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Speaker 1: At least, they've got a ton of guys that are

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01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: and now you know, thirteen of them plus ten more

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01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: who are isolated. They gotta go away. What's it? What's it? Now?

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01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: That's the way the team that's got one hundred and

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01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, thirty five forty players. I don't know what

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01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: it's Texas got, but that's what college does, right. They've

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01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: got a ton of guys because everyone wants to play

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01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: for their dad's college. Huh. College rosters are insanely big, right.

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01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 1: They got all these guys because you know, here's what happens.

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01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: They get you get these sixty scholarships or whatever they

1265
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: are for football, they give all those out. Then they'd

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01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: give preferred guys who are preferred walk ons, and there's

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01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: probably about ten or fifteen or twenty of those that kids.

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01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: At eighty eighty five, then you've got all the walk

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01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: ons kids that can't really play, but they want to

1270
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: play on the team because you know, their dad played,

1271
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: or they've been a Texas Longhorn fan forever. So they

1272
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: got like three dozen kids like that, that just say,

1273
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 1: you know what, I oh, walk on play. I played

1274
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: college high school football, and I'm going to college here anyway,

1275
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: they're allowing us to walk on. And in fact, it's

1276
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: a pretty good deal. We get it, we get all

1277
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: this stuff that we get to do. I'm in So

1278
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: you get like nine thousand kids who want to play

1279
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: them this team, and they're all out there volunt and

1280
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: if you're a walk on or preferred walk on or

1281
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: something like that, you if it's voluntary. I mean it's

1282
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: like you know, righted in Stone, they're gonna be there. Yeah,

1283
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna miss right, They're gonna be there. So

1284
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: all of those guys are in there, rolling around doing

1285
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: all this voluntary workout stuff, and all of a sudden,

1286
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: lo and behold, and I get you, hey, good for them.

1287
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: Testing Thirteen of them are either positive or presume positive,

1288
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: which means they all came down with the same symptoms.

1289
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: You know, thirteen guys came down with the same symptoms.

1290
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: They tested half of them and the rest of them

1291
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: are yeah, you guys probably got it too, right. And

1292
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 1: then then they go back and say, where have you been,

1293
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: who'd you come in contact with? Come into contact with it.

1294
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the toughest part of this whole equation

1295
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: because if someone comes down with it, then you have

1296
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: to try and figure out, Okay, who are all the

1297
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: people that this player has came into contact with in

1298
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: the last ten days. There's something like that that's gonna

1299
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: be tough to identify. And that's that could be a

1300
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: reason of how and why this could spread quickly within

1301
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 1: teams who spend a lot of time together and are

1302
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 1: in close contact together. I'm sure they're gonna try and

1303
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 1: be not in close contact together. But when you're on

1304
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: the football field practicing or you're in to wait even

1305
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,879
Speaker 1: it's hard to be six feet apart at all times.

1306
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: That's how to do it. How about that guy you

1307
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: go out, You're practically like, man, I had a good

1308
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 1: practice today. I'm you know, I might earn a scholarship

1309
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: next year. You know, I'm I'm closed. I think I'm

1310
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: I think I'm moving up the depth chart. This is awesome.

1311
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, somebody tapsure a son. You

1312
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: can't come back for ten days. You're contact tested. You

1313
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: got to stay away for ten days. What you know,

1314
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you know, the only positive which really

1315
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: isn't a positive. I mean, it's awful that these players

1316
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: got COVID nineteen, but if they're gonna get it, it's

1317
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: good to get it out of the way technically before

1318
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: the season starts. Now, I know, once you do get coronavirus,

1319
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: you can get it again. It's harder to get it

1320
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: get it again. But maybe all these thirteen players won't

1321
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 1: really be susceptible to get COVID nineteen once the season starts.

1322
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: You think, think about it, because here's the thing. You

1323
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: hear all that we've heard, all of us have heard

1324
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: nine thousand stories about what's this, what this virus is

1325
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,560
Speaker 1: really like? And I remember hearing early on that the

1326
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: expert listen, if you get it once, we don't even

1327
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: know if it's one of these viruses that you won't

1328
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: get again if you get it once. And so for

1329
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: the rest of us, it's like it's like, ohays you

1330
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: get you get a flu, or you get like chicken

1331
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: pox or measles or whatever, mumps. Once you get it,

1332
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: you'll never get it again, right, And they're not even

1333
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: sure that this one is like that. And they say, also,

1334
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: you know the second wave, the spike that you're gonna

1335
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: get after the first way, you know, after we after

1336
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 1: you kind of get it going down, you've got to

1337
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: get it under control, you get the kind of expect

1338
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 1: the second wave. They don't know whether it's going to

1339
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: be because everybody lets up early and they kind of

1340
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: spikes again, or whether the stinking thing mutates and it's

1341
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: a different virus now. Right, So there's all these I

1342
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: all these theories and all these information is getting dumped

1343
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: on top of us, and I hope you know that

1344
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: we get a handle on it pretty soon, right, I mean,

1345
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: certainly we've got more than one smart person looking at

1346
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 1: this scientifically, but man, man, this and who's got the

1347
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: right number? Who's got the real numbers that are shared

1348
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: them with us? Maybe we get them from New York State,

1349
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: right from the from the press briefings and all that.

1350
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: You kind of you can can't keep track of it,

1351
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: but man, oh man, it's just you don't know if

1352
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: if you're the guy who has had it full blown,

1353
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: maybe even hospitalized, you got out, you feel good, you're

1354
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, normally don't we all think like, Okay, I've

1355
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: already had it, so I'm kind of good to go, right,

1356
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: But not so fast right, I don't know, And now

1357
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: if I get it, I'm gonna feel invincible. Then I'm

1358
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: gonna be like, yeah, I won't come back now I

1359
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: got it, right, I'm kind of I'm that's been ingrained

1360
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: in me since I was a kid, that I would

1361
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: act the same way. But if I actually got it,

1362
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: I would probably try and be careful after I got

1363
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: it too, because we've we've heard people have gotten it

1364
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 1: a second time. Unfortunately in the NFL. Uh Judy Batista

1365
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,959
Speaker 1: and Mike Garifolo from NFL Network were hoarded on Wednesday.

1366
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 1: Per sources, that there's internal talk right now of rosters

1367
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 1: being expanded to as many as many as sixteen practice

1368
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: squad players. In the case that thirteen players get the

1369
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: virus on a roster, you can lean on your practice

1370
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: squad to have a little bit more depth that that

1371
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: you might need because an NFL roster is so much

1372
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: smaller than a college roster. Thirteen is a way bigger

1373
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: impact in terms of an NFL roster versus a college

1374
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 1: football roster. Right, yeah, yeah, it's twenty five percent of

1375
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: your roster, you know, So that's that's a crusher. So

1376
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, and I said this before, earlier in the

1377
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: week when we were talking about this mad that I

1378
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: expect the league and it would be my thought if

1379
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm commissioner, I'm thinking, listen, we're gonna make all kinds

1380
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: of exceptions to rosters this year, just for this year.

1381
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna have nineteen guys on your part, you have

1382
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: twenty guys on your practice squad. You can have any

1383
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: unlimited uh I r guys, you know, because I figure

1384
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: if a guy gets coronavirus, he's gonna go on ir

1385
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: right for a minute. But that would mean if the

1386
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: if the virus would be exception, if you get sick

1387
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 1: with it, you can get activated or deactivated as the

1388
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: as the virus dictates. So as soon as you're over it,

1389
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: you can come back, you know what I mean. Uh,

1390
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: that's not possible now under the CBA, they wouldn't be

1391
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 1: able to do that because of all the rules that

1392
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: are in place and all that. But now you gotta

1393
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: throw all that stuff out the window. In a year

1394
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 1: like this, you need it's all hands on deck, right,

1395
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: So you gotta have you know, get the practice squad,

1396
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,759
Speaker 1: pump it up, give him, give them the team's leeway

1397
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: to get guys on and off IR for this season.

1398
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: Even if it does mean a guy who twists his

1399
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: ankle and wouldn't have played otherwise in another year, let

1400
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: him come back for the last month of the season.

1401
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: Nobody cares. Just let the guy do it. It's just

1402
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 1: for one year. Skip all that rigor rule about teams

1403
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: hiding players and you know, keep a ninth thousand guys

1404
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: at it ready and having two different priors. It used

1405
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: to be listening. They changed all these rules because there

1406
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 1: were teams that would have two practices every day. It

1407
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: would be the regular practice for the squad that was

1408
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: going to play on Sunday, and then these teams that

1409
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 1: were willing to spend the money, they'd have a second

1410
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: practice with all the guys that were on IR who

1411
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: are they're kind of keeping on a stringer. They weren't

1412
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: even on the roster or whatever. They were paying these

1413
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: guys on the side, and they'd come in just be ready.

1414
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: So that was the way it was back in the day.

1415
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: If you had a team that was really making some

1416
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: cash and they had that to do, they would keep

1417
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: you know, like three or four offensive lineman spare offensive

1418
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 1: lineman ready to play, and they just plug those guys

1419
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 1: in when and when somebody went down. So it's you know,

1420
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: these rules are in place for really good reasons, but man,

1421
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: in a year like this, you know, just throwing the

1422
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: can for the time being and just let these teams,

1423
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, catch as catch can the players they need.

1424
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 1: If you're gonna have an NFL season, the NFL needs

1425
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: to be as flexible as possible with this. You can

1426
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: have all these rules as to what you can do

1427
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: with the ir how many practice squad players you can have,

1428
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks you can have, if you can have

1429
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: a quarantine quarterback or not. You need to relax the

1430
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: rules for a season like this, which if they get

1431
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: a season off and they're able to play the entire season,

1432
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: it's going to be incredible that this can happen based

1433
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: on what's going on in our country with this pandemic. Yeah,

1434
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: I think, and certainly every club will try and get

1435
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 1: a competitive edge with whatever the rules are going to be.

1436
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 1: They're just gonna do it. That's the way they operate.

1437
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: But for this it is everybody is kind of on notice.

1438
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how you're going to get an edge

1439
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 1: with the medical side of it, Like if you're okay

1440
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: so you're not adhering to all nine pages of the

1441
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,719
Speaker 1: memo from the National Football League about safety and medical

1442
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: protocols that you have to have in place to get

1443
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 1: in the building and have practice and all that. So

1444
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: you're not doing all nine pages. I don't know how

1445
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: failing to disinfect every stitch of equipment between every practice

1446
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: is a competitive advantage, you know what I mean? Now,

1447
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: may it may come back to bid them as well.

1448
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: If they don't do all these protocols, they may be

1449
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: the team like Texas today, who all of a sudden,

1450
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, the Jets have thirteen guys go down with

1451
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: a virus. That may happen to him if they don't

1452
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: do this, or it may happen that they do, even

1453
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: if they do adhere to the protocols. One of the

1454
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: players came into contact with somebody who he didn't know

1455
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: had symptoms, and they didn't know they had symptoms until

1456
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 1: after they had met. And now one of the players

1457
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 1: comes in and hobnobs in the building, and all of

1458
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's spreading it like a grass seed, you know.

1459
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: So all this stuff is just so mind boggling. All

1460
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: the ramifications that I just I'm just way. I'm a

1461
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: big fan of the commissioner just stepping up and just saying, listen, guys,

1462
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Yeah, you got like twenty five guys

1463
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: in your practice squad. You're you're, in fact, your whole

1464
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 1: camp roster. You can hang around for the entire season.

1465
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: Just hang on to them practice when you can have

1466
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: them ready, get them ready to play, and then on

1467
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 1: February fifteenth of twenty twenty one, you gotta be you

1468
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: gotta be back down to you know, fifty players or whatever,

1469
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: forty five players and then and then we can start

1470
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: free agency and the draft and all that. So maybe

1471
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: it's one of those years, but man oh man, they've

1472
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: got to have some relief because of the uncertainty and

1473
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: the huge burden it is to get these guys ready

1474
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 1: and keep them healthy. I think the Bills have a

1475
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: couple advantages in terms of talking about COVID nineteen and

1476
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: how it can affect a team. I think the Bills

1477
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: are going to lean on every single one of their

1478
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: departments to get through this season. And one thing that

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott brought up was the Sports science department, Joe

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01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,560
Speaker 1: Collins and Joe Club. Not every NFL team has a

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01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: sports science department. I think this is very important coming

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01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: back into the facilities for training camp. You have so

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01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: many players that have been all over the country trying

1484
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 1: to train, trying to work out in Florida, in California, wherever.

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01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: They're not using the same workout equipment that there is

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01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: at One Bill's Drive. They're not in contact with Eric

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01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: Siano and other other strength staff people. And so to

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01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: have Joe Collins and Joe Club be able to be

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01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: a part of the staff, they can measure things that

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01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: nobody else can to help get this team all back

1491
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,759
Speaker 1: on the same page together when it comes to working

1492
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: out and when it comes to being in shape for

1493
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: practices and things like that. Well, we'll see. We hope

1494
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: it's that way, and they're going to certainly gonna get tested,

1495
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 1: that's for sure, because this is going to be a

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01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: year like no other. Steve Tasker, Maddie glab here on

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01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Coming up at the top of the hour,

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01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: We've got Ben Violin, Boston Globe's national NFL reporter. He's

1499
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: going to come on with us. We also had on

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01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: the show earlier Joel Corey's the CBS Sports NFL Contract

1501
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: and Salary cap Expert. You can go back and listen

1502
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: to that on the podcast at the Bills Happen at

1503
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot Com. Steve Tasker, Matti Glab coming up

1504
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, Ben Volein. This is

1505
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio and this is One Bills Live. Welcome

1506
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 1: back to one Bills Live. Keep taster, Matti Lab here

1507
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: till the top of the hour. Ben Volein's coming in

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01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. We also talked to

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01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: Joel Corey earlier in the show, Mattie, did you see

1510
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: what happened? And it seems optimistic, But Hard Knocks is

1511
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 1: coming back this preseason and they are going to go

1512
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles and do a double feature the Chargers

1513
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: and the Rams. I love Hard Knocks. I'm such a

1514
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: big fan of Hard Knocks. I hope it works out,

1515
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: and I hope they can do an entire season. It'll

1516
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: be really interesting. I feel like if they get it

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01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: off the ground and do an entire seasoning I wanted

1518
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of how they actually made the show

1519
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: come together during coronavirus, Like what is it going to

1520
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,919
Speaker 1: look like or are they going to have people operating

1521
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: these cameras that are considered to be kind of quarantining

1522
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: with the players or not not allowed to go out

1523
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: and see other people, or are they going to have

1524
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:25,560
Speaker 1: robotic cameras go pros. That's how our staff shot a

1525
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: lot of the interviews when it came to the combine,

1526
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: which is how we've always done it is shoot with

1527
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: go pros, so nobody has to operate cameras. So I

1528
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: wonder if go pros are going to become the new

1529
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: thing this season. Yeah, it's the GoPros and it's all

1530
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: That's how they did embedded right with Buffalo Bills with

1531
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 1: Michelle Giardi, So that was then they were I mean,

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01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 1: the GoPros do a great picture and all that. But

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01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 1: you're right, it seems optimistic to me. But you and I,

1534
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: you and I both know when these you've seen TV productions,

1535
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: you've been a part of them, and I have two

1536
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: a ton of you know, TV production in my day,

1537
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 1: there's a ton of people and a lot of equipment everything,

1538
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: and it's everywhere right, and they're like they're touching you,

1539
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: they're putting a mic on you, they're running a cord

1540
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: up your shirt. You know, they're they're they're slapping Mike

1541
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 1: packs onto the shoulder pads of these guys. You know,

1542
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: there's the crew and I'll tell you this though too.

1543
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 1: Then all of this, it's always the camera people in

1544
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: the tech people that just are the they get the

1545
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: brunt of all the sacrifice. These guys are the ones

1546
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: that are gonna be all right, Well, you're gonna have

1547
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: to leave your house for six weeks. You're not gonna

1548
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: see your family, You're not gonna see your kids. You're

1549
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: gonna be working on this show and you're gonna be

1550
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: expected to be You're gonna be pulling fourteen hour days

1551
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: and you're and you can't break the bubble. You can't,

1552
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, go out to eat. You can't do that

1553
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 1: that you're gonna If they'll do that, they'll have they don't.

1554
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: It is bad, it is. They treat those guys so bad,

1555
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: those techs in TV production. Oh my gosh, they better

1556
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: get to go to Disney World and be a part

1557
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: of the NBA bubble after they do that. Yeah, right,

1558
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 1: that's that's that seems like a fair trade. That seems

1559
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: like a fair trade. Steves Asker, Maddie Glab We're till

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01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: three o'clock. We have got a Twitter poll out too,

1561
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 1: for those of you who are interested. We've asked a question,

1562
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: what question it can only be answered? What is the

1563
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: biggest question that can only be answered once the Bills

1564
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: get into training camp? What's the big question for the

1565
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills that can only be answered in training camp?

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01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: Seventy three for a seventy four percent of our respondents

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01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: say they want to see if Josh has improved his

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01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: deep ball accuracy. Three quarters of nobody else's even closed

1569
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: twelve percent. Eleven percent said how I want to see

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01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: the wide receivers play. I want to see those guys

1571
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 1: the depth shake out. These two draft picks might have

1572
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: a chance to make the team. Who's gonna have to

1573
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 1: sit down who we're gonna have to say goodbye to?

1574
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: Four percent say, well, bubble players at a fair shot

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01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: this year. That's a good question. Are these players that

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01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 1: we picked up that maybe you're at a deep spot

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01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 1: on the defensive line or in the wide receiver room,

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01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: or the even the offensive line room. Who's gonna get

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01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: a fair shot to make the club. If it's one

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01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: of these rookie free agents, are they gonna get a

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01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: chance to evaluate them in d which federin player needs

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01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: to prove his worth. There's eleven percent of the people

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01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: think that, so there's a lot of there's a lot

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01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: of to go around. But man, oh man, people really

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01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: want to watch Josh throw the football of these new

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01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: wide receivers and seving and hit him. I mean, that's

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01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: that's the overriding winner of this poll. Correct. Yeah, And

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01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 1: I am guilty as charged because I want to see

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01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: that too. Yeah. Well there you We've got We've got

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01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: a tweet sheet too. We've got we're getting calls and

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01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 1: texts from from our listeners. This is um yeah, from

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01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 1: from Evan on the tweet sheet, the twitter poll. The

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01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 1: tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the

1594
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: official equipment moving in the Buffalo Bills. From Evan, he says,

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01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,959
Speaker 1: I don't believe Allen needs to be a top sixteen

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01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: in the league in deep ball accuracy, but if he

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01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 1: can be league average at the deep ball, the Bills

1598
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: are going places. And I think that's there's something to this. Maddie.

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01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 1: You gotta think there's a couple of givens here. You

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01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: gotta think, well, the defense is gonna be good again,

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01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: and if it's a top three defense like it was

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01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: last year, and perhaps even better then that takes, you know,

1603
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 1: the margin of error widens greatly for the offense. They

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01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: don't have to score nine thousand points a game. They

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01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: can score, you know, twenty points, nineteen points and a

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01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: half points like they did last year and win the

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01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:37,440
Speaker 1: majority of their games. But if there are incremental improvements

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01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, if Josh Allen

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01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: improves his deep ball accuracy by a couple of percentage points,

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01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: improves his completion percentage another like he did last year,

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01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: another six percent like he did last year, all of

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01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, this offense looks pretty good and they are

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01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: scoring in the mid twenties every game, and that's hard

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01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: at twenty five points, twenty four points is hard to

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01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: score on this defense, really hard to score. Yeah, and

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01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: that means it's going to be a season where the

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01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: Bills are going to win a lot of games and

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01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: go a lot of places and maybe have a home

1619
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: playoff game. That'd be awesome. The offense to average nineteen

1620
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,560
Speaker 1: point six points per game. Last year, it was a

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01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: below average offense. All they need to do is score

1622
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: another touchdown a game. Josh Allen needs to get a

1623
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 1: little bit better. This doesn't need to be a top

1624
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 1: five offense in order to win a lot of games. Right,

1625
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and I think that's what Evan from

1626
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet said. He doesn't have to be top sixteen,

1627
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: just get average on his deep ball and that is

1628
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 1: going to take the Bills places. Also from the tweet sheet,

1629
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 1: Eli says, I think the biggest question to answer is

1630
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: do we have a backup quarterback that will win games

1631
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 1: for us if Josh Allen gets hurt. The wide receiver

1632
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 1: wide receiver depth I think is better than last season.

1633
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 1: I do feel sorry for players on the bubble. They

1634
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,719
Speaker 1: won't get their shot, but if practice squad spots get bigger,

1635
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 1: then they'll still have a chance. And I, I don't know,

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01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 1: I don't anticipate. Here's the thing. You can't really go

1637
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 1: into a season thinking, yeah, somebody's got Josh Allen's definitely

1638
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: gonna get hurt, so Matt Barkley's gotta get ready. You

1639
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: can't go in like that. No, Okay, Yeah, it's just

1640
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: it's just hard to do. So well, we'll talk more

1641
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: about that as we get deeper into the show. Coming up, right,

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01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 1: after the break, Boston Boston Globe National National National Football

1643
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 1: League reporter Ben Vollen is gonna join us Mattie Glabs

1644
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to

1645
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: Health and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Oh great time

1646
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 1: watch Steve Lasker, sus times. Tis time. Welcome back to

1647
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: One Build a Love Steve task along with Maddie Glab.

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01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 1: We are pleased to be joined on the line right

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01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 1: now by the national NFL reporter for the Boston Globe,

1650
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 1: Ben Villin, Ben, Steve Tasker, Mattie Glab here in Buffalo.

1651
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:12,679
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on with us. And we begin every

1652
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: interview by asking the same question to our guests, how

1653
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 1: are you doing during the pandemic? Are you saying safe

1654
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 1: and well? Thank you for having me and thank you

1655
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: for the question. I appreciate that you know, like everyone,

1656
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: it's been it's been tough no matter what your situation is.

1657
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 1: And I have two little kids at home, a two

1658
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: and a half year old and a one year old,

1659
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: so it's been a lot of daddy daycare in the

1660
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: last three months. But we're getting school back pretty soon,

1661
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 1: and Massachusetts seems to be doing better with the coronavirus

1662
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: these days, and we're slowly opening back up. So there's

1663
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: finally a little bit of light at the end of

1664
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 1: the tunnel here. Yeah, I know, that's it got lost

1665
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 1: in the wash over the last few months, where you know,

1666
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 1: parents actually had to stay home and be parents all day,

1667
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,799
Speaker 1: which is not the way it usually works in our society.

1668
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: Got they got responsibilities, The kids do stuff, and it's

1669
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 1: I think a lot of kids have thrived during that time,

1670
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: but it's been tough on the parents and it's been

1671
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 1: an eye open experience for all of us. I'm glad

1672
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: you're doing it, though, and remember relief is on the way. Ben. Thanks.

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01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: Uh I gotta. I want to ask you about the

1674
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,560
Speaker 1: news today coming out doctor Fauci, who said, you know,

1675
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,560
Speaker 1: he expects the NFL not to be able to do

1676
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 1: it unless they do a bubble, a situation like the

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01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 1: type that the NBA is doing. Uh. And of course,

1678
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: the NFL's chief medical officer also issued a statement, what

1679
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: your what is your take on the fragility of an

1680
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 1: NFL season and how likely it is to happen? So

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01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,839
Speaker 1: I found in doctor Faucci's comment to be very interesting

1682
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 1: today and I actually think it is maybe being misconstrued

1683
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: a little bit because I don't know if he's actually

1684
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: advocating the NFL do a bubble type scenario that the

1685
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 1: NBA is doing, because it would be I mean, we're

1686
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: talking like five months here and that not you know,

1687
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 1: that is not insignificant, so you know, and it's funny

1688
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: I did. I did a pretty big article about this

1689
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 1: whole subject at the end of May, just what is

1690
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 1: it going to take for the NFL to be able

1691
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 1: to pull this off this fall? And I talked to

1692
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: experts from all the Boston hospitals, you know, and the

1693
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: university's Harvard and Tufts and Boston University, and I spoke

1694
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: to a guy from Johns Hopkins who's on the nc

1695
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 1: double A Coronavirus task Force, And all the experts I

1696
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: spoke to were cautiously optimistic that the NFL could play

1697
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 1: this season without having to do a bubble type scenario

1698
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: as long as they just test frequently and as soon

1699
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: as guys test positive, they isolate them, and there are

1700
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 1: gonna be positive tests and it's gonna happen. But there's

1701
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: at least some reasonable optimism that it could happen. So

1702
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: Fauci's really and frankly, the bubble scenario is one of

1703
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: the least preferred by a lot of the experts because

1704
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 1: once one guy gets coronavirus, the whole bubble is ruined,

1705
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 1: the whole plan collapses. You look at the NBA, they

1706
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean they had to set up like an anonymous

1707
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 1: hotline for guys to snitch on other guys in case

1708
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,560
Speaker 1: they break the protocol. That's how serious it is. So

1709
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: Faucci his comments say were different from what you've been

1710
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 1: hearing from a lot of the experts, and I don't

1711
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: think he's truly advocating for a bubble. I think what

1712
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 1: he's saying is the players need to stay at home

1713
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 1: and keep doing what we've been doing. Don't go out

1714
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 1: to the club, don't go out to a restaurant, go

1715
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 1: to the facility. Stay at home otherwise and take this

1716
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 1: thing very seriously and hopefully a coronavirus doesn't flare up

1717
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: too much and ruin the seasons. Yeah. In that article

1718
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: you wrote in the interviews that you did, what was

1719
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: the most interesting you thing you heard from the people

1720
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 1: that you interviewed, whether it be people in the hospital

1721
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 1: or people that are on the athletic side. Of things

1722
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how this can work, and then

1723
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 1: also thinking about Texas released today that the thirteen of

1724
01:34:54,360 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 1: their players tested positive for coronavirus. I mean, is does

1725
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: it just take a couple of things for this whole

1726
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:06,719
Speaker 1: thing to get completely derailed? Well, just wait till teams

1727
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: report to training camp. I think, I bet you every

1728
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: team will have someone test positive for coronavirus to start

1729
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 1: the season. Just the numbers. I mean, you know, because

1730
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 1: we're not talking just players, We're talking coaches and training

1731
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: staff and the GM and all this guy. I mean,

1732
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 1: everyone had to go through all his testing. You know

1733
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: what surprising me was There's still some debate about how

1734
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: much testing is really needed. Some people believe that you

1735
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 1: got a test every single day just to make sure

1736
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,719
Speaker 1: you're catching guys who test positive right away. Some people

1737
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 1: think only once or twice a week is really necessary.

1738
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:46,679
Speaker 1: I saw the other day the NFLPA said three times

1739
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: a week is might maybe where the NFL will land.

1740
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 1: The German Soccer League is doing twice a week right now,

1741
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 1: and they're kind of the guinea pigs, and everyone's kind

1742
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 1: of watching to see what the German soccer League is doing.

1743
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 1: So I was gonna. I guess I was surprised that

1744
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 1: it's not guaranteed that players are going to be tested

1745
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 1: every day. It might only be two or three times

1746
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: a week. And you know, I guess I was surprised

1747
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:12,679
Speaker 1: at the optimism that the NFL, you know, at least

1748
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 1: can start the season. I guess the bigger question is

1749
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: can they finish the season, because, Yeah, what happens if

1750
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 1: COVID does get four of your offensive lineman at the

1751
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: same time, or what happens if there is a second

1752
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 1: wave this fall and it's just bad conditions out there,

1753
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: and you know, the NFL going to be able to

1754
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:31,680
Speaker 1: finish the season or are they gonna get stuck in

1755
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: week twelve or in week sixteen or something like that.

1756
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,919
Speaker 1: There's seeing a lot of universities push out their academic

1757
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 1: calendars now to end before Thanksgiving, I think, just for

1758
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 1: that reason. So there's certainly a lot of concern, not

1759
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 1: as much about the start of the season, but towards

1760
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 1: the end of the season if it does flare up

1761
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 1: in the bad weather, and is it going to be

1762
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 1: able to the NFL to get all the way to

1763
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 1: February and play the Super Bowl without the coronavirus really

1764
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: affecting these guys. Yeah, we're talking to benvol in Boston

1765
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 1: Globes national NFL reporter. He's covered the NFL and the

1766
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 1: Patriots for the Globe since twenty thirteen's it seems obvious

1767
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 1: that sooner or later there's going to be a positive test,

1768
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 1: and probably more than one or two in the National

1769
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: Football League. The thing that the people have to get

1770
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: or trying to get their mind around, is you can't

1771
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:24,600
Speaker 1: play football or even basketball without bumping into, leaning on,

1772
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 1: sweating on you know. It's it's an intimate game, and

1773
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: it's a physical game, and players are going to be

1774
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 1: exposed to whatever virus or sickness or illness that any

1775
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 1: of these guys have. On both teams that are on

1776
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: the field. It seems like if any player gets on

1777
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 1: the field and plays, particularly a down linement where they're

1778
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 1: leaning on each other and pushing and shoving each other

1779
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 1: and enter in close contact, it seems that if one

1780
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 1: player can get on the field in the midst of

1781
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 1: all that everybody in that field could be stricken with

1782
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: the virus and it could happen over the course of

1783
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 1: a couple of days. That's like worst case scenario, is

1784
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 1: it not, and it seems likely that it could happen. Yeah,

1785
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 1: it's certainly possible. And that's why I think, you know,

1786
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 1: testing three times a week, hopefully you're getting a lot

1787
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,959
Speaker 1: of the positive tests and you're you know, immediately quarantining

1788
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,879
Speaker 1: guys as soon as they do test positive. So hopefully

1789
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, And I would imagine if the three times

1790
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: a week, I would bet your Sunday morning is when

1791
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 1: one of those tests are going to happen, so you

1792
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 1: gotta pass your test before you go playing the game,

1793
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 1: which to me, I I you know that that does

1794
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: seem to make some sense. But at the same time,

1795
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: one thing I found interesting in this article is, um,

1796
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's you're absolutely right about the guys

1797
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 1: in the trenches. The offensive linemen and defensive linemen are

1798
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 1: banging up against each other all day long. But you know,

1799
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 1: for contact tracing, CDC's guidelines for contract tracing, it's if

1800
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 1: you have exposed, you know, exposure to someone with the

1801
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 1: disease for over ten minutes. If you actually go back

1802
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: and into a football game, like receivers and cornerback probably

1803
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: aren't up in each other's face for ten full minutes.

1804
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean, a play is what six second long quarterbacks

1805
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 1: probably don't have guys in their face all day. There

1806
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 1: are certain positions where there probably isn't a ton of

1807
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 1: face to face contact throughout the game, unlike basketball, where

1808
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 1: it's you know, all five guys in the court are

1809
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:24,680
Speaker 1: closely checking each other. So to me, it's, you know,

1810
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 1: if you can space out the huddle a little bit,

1811
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 1: you're probably more at risk from getting it from one

1812
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: of your teammates sitting on the bench, going into the

1813
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: locker room, being in the huddle than you might be

1814
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 1: from an opponent. So that's you know, these protocols they

1815
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: have to be just as vigilant during the week as

1816
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 1: they do on Sunday because it's it's all about who

1817
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: you're around, and frankly, you're around your teammates a lot

1818
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: more than you're around your opponents. But I mean, no question,

1819
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: the guys in the trenches are certainly going to be

1820
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 1: at risk for COVID. And you know they're talking about

1821
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 1: increasing the practice squad from twelve to sixteen this year.

1822
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 1: To me, that is only the beginning of what they

1823
01:39:57,640 --> 01:39:59,759
Speaker 1: need to do. For they should increase it to twenty

1824
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: or twenty five. I mean, those those players are so

1825
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 1: cheap anyway, Like who cares at more? And they need

1826
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 1: to come up with roster exemptions, you know, a two

1827
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: week COVID advent exemption where you know you can come

1828
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: back afterwards. They got to do something because yeah, guys

1829
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: are going to get this and teams are going to

1830
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 1: be affected, and it's just how well the NFL prepared

1831
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: and how much risk is everyone, the players and the teams.

1832
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 1: How much risk are they really willing to put up

1833
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 1: with because of COVID nineteen and this weird virtual offseason

1834
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:32,640
Speaker 1: that we've all been in, no mini camps. What do

1835
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 1: you think we'll see? There's been a lot of talk

1836
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 1: about training camps. Is it going to be longer, our

1837
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 1: preseason games going to be shortened from four to two?

1838
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: What do you think is the most likely thing that

1839
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 1: will happen once we hit training camp? It does seem

1840
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: likely that they would shorten the preseason, although I think

1841
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 1: they would still try to do it just as a

1842
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:56,640
Speaker 1: dry run for the regular season, just to see how

1843
01:40:56,760 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 1: the travel would work and game day secure and getting

1844
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 1: in and out of the stadiums, all that stuff. So

1845
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 1: I would think there's still some value in the preseason

1846
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 1: this year, just to work out the kinks for everything.

1847
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 1: And I know some coaches were talking about, you know,

1848
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: they want quarterbacks and some players to be able to

1849
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,720
Speaker 1: come back June fifteenth or whatever. So yeah, I do

1850
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 1: think there will probably be longer training camps. But again,

1851
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be full team meetings. It's probably not

1852
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 1: gonna be big group positional meetings, and whatever does happen,

1853
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: we'll probably have to take plays outdoors or in the

1854
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 1: big team auditorium. You know, your rookie skit nights. I

1855
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 1: don't know how you know you're gonna have to move

1856
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 1: that outdoors or not do them at all. I mean,

1857
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a normal training camp by

1858
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: any means. It's really going to test the coaches and

1859
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 1: their ability to get their team ready to play. And

1860
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 1: that's why you like situations like in Buffalo there with

1861
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, or in New England with Bill Belichick. Just

1862
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:51,599
Speaker 1: having continuity on the coaching staff and with a lot

1863
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: of the players. That's that's gonna help you this year

1864
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: in this fall, because it's just gonna be such a

1865
01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 1: weird training camp and a weird you know season to

1866
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 1: get ready We're talking with Ben vol in Boston Globes

1867
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 1: National Football League NFL reporter. Uh, what happens if it?

1868
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 1: Could you foresee if scenario where a team has to

1869
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: forfeit the game? Uh, if the if the season goes

1870
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:19,680
Speaker 1: on and you know, the genie gets out of the

1871
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 1: bottle and a team just gets you know, riddled with

1872
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 1: it and they don't have enough team or it happens

1873
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 1: late in the week they don't have enough players. Is

1874
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 1: it possible to the team? I mean, what's the what's

1875
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:34,560
Speaker 1: the protocol or the plan for if you know, the

1876
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 1: Bills Jets game and the Jets only have twenty eight

1877
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 1: guys healthy, Well, no doubt. I mean you do wonder

1878
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 1: if the NFL is they'll either have to bake in

1879
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: a provision where four if it's happened, or they'll just

1880
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: have to call off the season because and I don't

1881
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:49,719
Speaker 1: know if they'd want to do that over one game.

1882
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 1: But you don't even need COVID to ravage a locker

1883
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: room for that to happen. You just need for it

1884
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: to hit one, you know, one specific position very hard.

1885
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 1: What if the Bills lose all three their quarterbacks one

1886
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 1: day and they're you know, they have to sign a

1887
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 1: guy at the street, or you know, they lose all

1888
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 1: four of their guards and then you're moving guys. It

1889
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 1: could be a health and safety thing if you have

1890
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 1: to move tight ends to tackle and guys really playing

1891
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 1: out a position or you know, when you're playing your

1892
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,639
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth strint quarterback. I mean, is that really

1893
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: what the NFL wants to do? So yeah, absolutely, I

1894
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have to consider doomsday scenarios like that

1895
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 1: and perhaps be willing to call off a game and

1896
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: consider it a forfeit. And I don't know if it's

1897
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 1: fair to make the Bills lose that game if they

1898
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 1: can't feel the team because of COVID. Maybe they you know,

1899
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:39,639
Speaker 1: but something's got they have to account for something. But again,

1900
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 1: the idea, the whole the goal is you test enough

1901
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 1: and you quarantine immediately so that you can avoid those

1902
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 1: kind of outbreaks and you you keep guys apart. I mean,

1903
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 1: like in the locker room. Usually offensive linemen are all

1904
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 1: in one corner of the locker room. Well, now you

1905
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 1: might have to intersperse them throughout the room just so

1906
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 1: that your guard doesn't infect your you know, and you

1907
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 1: might need to have guys come to the facility during

1908
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 1: the day and shifts and not even by position, but

1909
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 1: like you know, Team one could be a few different

1910
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 1: guys from each position and you go work out with

1911
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 1: those guys so that just in case there's COVID, it

1912
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 1: doesn't wreck your tight end depth. I mean, it's they're

1913
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:20,759
Speaker 1: gonna have to take some I understand why coaches are upset,

1914
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 1: like John Harbaugh and Sean mcgay. They're kind of complaining

1915
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 1: a little bit, but this is not anyone's I deal scenario.

1916
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 1: It's just what they're trying to have to do to

1917
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 1: play through this thing and make sure that COVID doesn't

1918
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: know ravage. The NFL. Two words that are pretty important

1919
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: this off season I think are continuity and depth. The

1920
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 1: Bills have both of those, I would like to say,

1921
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 1: especially continuity. ESPN released an article where they said they

1922
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 1: had eighty eight percent of their starting snaps returning, which

1923
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 1: is great to hear. What other teams do you think

1924
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 1: could have surprising success due to this awkward, weird, different

1925
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 1: off season that we're in because some teams have more

1926
01:44:57,479 --> 01:45:01,759
Speaker 1: continuity and depths than others. Yeah, I mean it's definitely

1927
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 1: about I think the teams that are bringing their guys back,

1928
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 1: and like you look at Carolina um new coach, new quarterback,

1929
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator. I know Teddy Bridgewater has some experience

1930
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 1: with the coordinator Joe Brady in the past, but that

1931
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 1: that seems to be an awful lot, uh for for

1932
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 1: one team in this year. You know. That said, maybe

1933
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 1: maybe it is right for a team like that to

1934
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 1: catch a lot of people by surprise, like you know,

1935
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 1: maybe the Bears did a few years ago when they

1936
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 1: went twelve and four in Matt Maggie's first year and

1937
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,560
Speaker 1: then they you know, came back down to reality a

1938
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 1: little bit. But but certainly the teams with continuity, you know,

1939
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are literally bringing everyone back the same start,

1940
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:41,640
Speaker 1: bringing most of their guys back. You know, the Patriots

1941
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: obviously it's a big one with um uh Jared Stidham

1942
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:48,919
Speaker 1: replacing Tom Brady now uh and kind of a big otherwise,

1943
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: but otherwise they aren't bringing back close to the players,

1944
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 1: and they're bringing back a lot of the defense, you know,

1945
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 1: same coaches. So the Patriots, you know, on paper, they

1946
01:45:56,240 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 1: have a very questionable quarterback depth chart, but I too,

1947
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: you know, they do have good continuity elsewhere and all

1948
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 1: five offensive line starters too, that that should help. Jared's

1949
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 1: did him a lot this year. So yeah, you're definitely

1950
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 1: just looking, I think, looking at the teams that are

1951
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 1: bringing everyone back, and it has to start with Kansas City,

1952
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 1: who had very few changes and they have the best

1953
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 1: quarterback on the planet who's obviously still getting better. Are

1954
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,640
Speaker 1: you surprised that the New England Patriots did not make

1955
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 1: any quarterback move other than losing Tom Brady in the

1956
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 1: off season a little bit? I mean I was surprised

1957
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: they didn't go harder for one of the draft. I

1958
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 1: really wanted them to make a play for two, especially

1959
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: with Belichick's connection with Nick Saban, but you know, they

1960
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 1: just didn't want to obviously pay the price to go

1961
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: up and get to AH. But you know, I'll trust

1962
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:47,679
Speaker 1: their evaluations that they didn't like the guys in the draft.

1963
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 1: If they want to give Jared s did him a chance,

1964
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 1: certainly that makes some sense us did him. You know,

1965
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 1: last year's fourth round pick is going to get an opportunity.

1966
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 1: I think they like him, but clearly, you know, they

1967
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 1: don't know what they have in him yet, and he's

1968
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 1: making league minimum for the next three years, so if

1969
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:04,799
Speaker 1: he has any good. Then they've got a big advantage

1970
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,640
Speaker 1: over the rest of the NFL. And look, if he

1971
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 1: plays his way out of a job this year, then

1972
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 1: they go to next year and they can find another quarterback.

1973
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't think it made a whole lot of sense

1974
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 1: to spend money on a guy who probably isn't going

1975
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 1: to be the future of the team. You know, Cam Newton,

1976
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, one of those guys. I think you're better

1977
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 1: off and this year, at least seeing what you've got

1978
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: with Judge Stenham and fran Hoyer in the backup is

1979
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:28,600
Speaker 1: a veteran guy who knows your system. So to me,

1980
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 1: that makes some sense. I guess the real the only

1981
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 1: problem could be if you're in purgatory, if you know,

1982
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 1: you go eight and eight or nine to seven and

1983
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 1: Stidham plays pretty well, but you're not quite sure, and

1984
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:41,680
Speaker 1: then you know, maybe that hampers your decision should you

1985
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 1: go find another one to still commit behind Stidham. So

1986
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you know, they've welcome to the rest of

1987
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 1: the NFL. They no longer have the perfect situation at quarterback.

1988
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 1: They now have big decisions to make. But I think

1989
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, given when or ad organizationally moving into a

1990
01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 1: new future or here without Tom Brady probably looking up

1991
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: rebuilding for the next couple of years. I think it

1992
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: was smart to give Jared's did him a chance this year.

1993
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 1: You listed eleven teams that should sign Colin Kaepernick. When

1994
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 1: do you think he'll get his first look and what

1995
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 1: team do you think fits Colin style best. Yeah, we'll see.

1996
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,679
Speaker 1: I mean, the Chargers were getting a lot of props yesterday,

1997
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 1: but they didn't really say anything. They're not because they

1998
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 1: don't have plans to bring Kavernick again. They're just he

1999
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 1: might be on their list one day if they need him,

2000
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 1: which I don't know why I said that, but you

2001
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 1: know it's not going to be for a while because

2002
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, still teams aren't bringing guys in for workouts yet.

2003
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,840
Speaker 1: Maybe sometime in training camp, maybe Kavernick gets a look.

2004
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 1: You know, I do think there are teams out there

2005
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 1: that could use him as a backup. I do think

2006
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 1: there are still some questions about how badly Kaepernick really

2007
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: does want to get back into the league and whether

2008
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 1: it's better for his mission and his purpose to not

2009
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 1: play in the NFL. So we'll see. But I do

2010
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 1: think there are, as you said, at least eleven teams

2011
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 1: that could use Kaepernick. I think in Jacksonville he might

2012
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 1: be the best quarterback there. Even in Chicago with Mitchell

2013
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 1: Trubisky and Nick Foles, I think Kaepernick might be as

2014
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 1: good or better than both of those guys. He'd be

2015
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, the Chargers were interesting because if they plan

2016
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 1: on just sitting justin Justin Herbert all year in their

2017
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 1: first round pick. I mean, Kaepernick would certainly make some

2018
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,839
Speaker 1: sense behind Tyrod Taylor as a similar type of quarterback.

2019
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,719
Speaker 1: I think he would make sense behind Deshaun Watson, behind

2020
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,200
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. You know, he'd be a good scheme fit

2021
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 1: for some of those teams, more so than their current backups.

2022
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:38,640
Speaker 1: You know, no team has been willing to stick their

2023
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:41,640
Speaker 1: neck out yet and offer a trial though, but a

2024
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 1: certain you know, momentum does seem to be heading that way.

2025
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:47,640
Speaker 1: And look, I don't know if Kaepernick is you know,

2026
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 1: it's still any good. But I think with eighty ninety

2027
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:54,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks one hundred quarterbacks in the league right now, Kaepernick

2028
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 1: is still deserving to be in the conversation and should

2029
01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:00,679
Speaker 1: probably get a shot at having a roster spot. Last

2030
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 1: question from me Ben, with Kaepernick just in the last,

2031
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:07,600
Speaker 1: your last answer, and what his prospects are. Have you

2032
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 1: got any inkling about what will happen with protests on

2033
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: game day? Will the players get more creative? Certainly will

2034
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 1: see players kneel as we have in the past, and

2035
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 1: probably more so than we have in the past. But

2036
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: will players get more creative? And if so, what do

2037
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 1: you think that will look like. I mean, certainly, it

2038
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,679
Speaker 1: seems like there's gonna a lot of momentum for guys feeling.

2039
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:32,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you see young star players like Kyler Murray

2040
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 1: coming out and saying he's gonna take in to eat

2041
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 1: and I can't I apologize, I can't remember all the

2042
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 1: guys off the top of my head. But Adrian Peterson,

2043
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:43,160
Speaker 1: i think was one of the first to say that,

2044
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of dealing during

2045
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 1: the national anthem and probably yeah, some interlocking arms and

2046
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 1: arms around shoulders and you know, fists in the air,

2047
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,600
Speaker 1: and probably all the signs that were familiar with. But

2048
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 1: I do think we'll see specifically a lot of kneeling,

2049
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 1: and I think the stage will be much, you know,

2050
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 1: more widely received this time. I think people have are

2051
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:09,640
Speaker 1: understanding exactly what Colin Kaepernick was trying to do and

2052
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:13,640
Speaker 1: what message you're trying to send, and um, you know,

2053
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 1: the it's a it's the events of the last few weeks.

2054
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 1: I've really touched a nerve across the country and across

2055
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 1: the NFL, And um, you're seeing more teams stayed explicitly

2056
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 1: that they are going to um support their players if

2057
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 1: they do neel. Not every not every owner has spoken out.

2058
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 1: You know, still haven't heard from Jerry Jones and Robert

2059
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 1: Kraft and certain other owners, but there certainly seems to

2060
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: be a lot more acceptance of a protest at the

2061
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 1: national anthem. And um, you know that the center seems

2062
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:45,600
Speaker 1: to have shifted from a few years ago. Like you

2063
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 1: look at Drew Brees, he certainly took a lot of

2064
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 1: heat for a position that just a few years ago

2065
01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:52,720
Speaker 1: it was very popular. So I think we'll see a

2066
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:55,560
Speaker 1: lot of protesting from the players, but I think the

2067
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 1: NFL is going to be a lot more supportive this

2068
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 1: time than they were three years ago. Ben, thanks for this,

2069
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It You're right. It is a whole

2070
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:06,599
Speaker 1: new world we're looking at in the National Football League

2071
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 1: and in society at large, and we hope the NFL

2072
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 1: can be a positive influence influence. Thanks so much for

2073
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 1: being on with us today. Take care all right, you too.

2074
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot for having Ben Volin. He's covered the

2075
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 1: National Football League and the Patriots for the Globe since

2076
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:22,880
Speaker 1: two thirteen. Steve Tasker, Mattie Glab coming back, We've got

2077
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 1: what do we learn in NFL? True false? Coming up

2078
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 1: after the break. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio, presented by

2079
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: Kalid to Health and this is One Bills Live. Welcome

2080
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 1: back to one of Bill's Live. Like to thank Ben

2081
01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: Vollen for spending some time with us last half hour,

2082
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 1: talk about the league and what's ahead of it with

2083
01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 1: the pandemic and trying to get back on the field

2084
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 1: and a lot of the obstacles that are still in

2085
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 1: the way. Mattie Glab along with Steve Tasker. Here, We're

2086
01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 1: here till three o'clock. It's time now, Maddie for NFL

2087
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:01,599
Speaker 1: True false. Brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's

2088
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:06,800
Speaker 1: artisan Cheese. Are you ready? I am ready? Okay, here

2089
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 1: we go. Two thousand oh this is I love these questions.

2090
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:15,639
Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight. Arizona Cardinals were the biggest fluke

2091
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:23,640
Speaker 1: team in NFL history. Yeah, Okay. Bleacher Report released this

2092
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 1: article where it had what ten ten of the biggest

2093
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:30,679
Speaker 1: Fluke teams and I read through skim through all ten

2094
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 1: and I want to say true on this one. Yeah,

2095
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 1: I think it's It is a team that has struggled

2096
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:49,560
Speaker 1: throughout history to win and to be successful on a

2097
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 1: consistent basis, and for them to get to the Super Bowl,

2098
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 1: and really they had a chance to win it too,

2099
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 1: Ken Wisdom. That was the year that Kurt Warner was

2100
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: their quarterback met in the Super Bowl and it was

2101
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 1: the Ben Roethlisberger throw to the back corner of the

2102
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:05,600
Speaker 1: Enzo that got him a beat. And it was the

2103
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 1: touchdown return for a touchdown by James Harrison where Larry

2104
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:13,600
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald ran him down on the sidelines and tried to

2105
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 1: get the ball out instead of just tackling him right

2106
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 1: before halftime. Huge game, huge moment in that game. But

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Speaker 1: I kind of think there are there are a number

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Speaker 1: of teams. And it used to be before the Pagoulas

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Speaker 1: took over his owners that the Bills were that way.

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01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:31,919
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't. They weren't very good for decades,

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Speaker 1: and there was it was like the Detroit Lions, the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, the Arizona Cardinals, or Phoenix Cardinals, or the

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals, whatever wherever they were. Of the Chicago Cardinals,

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01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 1: they just never played very well. Bills were one of

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Speaker 1: those teams for a long time. Things can change, but they,

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01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, still the Arizona Cardinals are kind of still

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Speaker 1: that way, right, it says. Since the Super Bowl appearance,

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01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have made the playoffs only three times and

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01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 1: had four win records, although they went ten and six

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01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 1: and lost in the Divisional round in two thousand and nine.

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01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 1: They skidded to a five eleven record in two thousand

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01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 1: and ten and didn't finish above five hundred again till

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Speaker 1: two thousand and thirteen. We'll see if DeAndre Hopkins can

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01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: help them out this year. Yeah, we'll see. That's Hopkins

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01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 1: is going to really help them, really help them. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. That's true false number one. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say true and so are you all right? It's

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Speaker 1: NFL true false number two. Bears Packers is the top

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Speaker 1: division rivalry in the National Football League. You want me

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Speaker 1: to go first, you go first, you know how. It's

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01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 1: the oldest I mean it's not. Come on, Maddie, don't

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01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 1: don't buy into that. Dallas. You got Dallas Redskins in there.

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01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 1: You know you've You've got a ton of great right

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01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 1: chiefs Raiders. Come on. It's a good rivalry, no question,

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Speaker 1: and it's the oldest rivalry, but top rivalry. No, the

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Speaker 1: Bears are never good enough to make it a rivalry.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that because I know you're a Bears fan.

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Speaker 1: In your mind, what's the biggest rivalry. The biggest rivalry

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Speaker 1: to me would be two of the biggest teams from

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01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 1: the biggest markets, and I think that's got to be

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Speaker 1: Dallas Washington. That's that's a classic, um. But I also

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01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 1: think it could be Giants Dallas to New York Dallas. Uh,

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01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 1: that's a big one too. I think it has as

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01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 1: much to do for me as the history of the

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01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 1: franchises and their place in NFL history as it does

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01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:42,440
Speaker 1: with the teams themselves, because year to year the teams

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01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 1: go up and down and up and down and up

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01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 1: and down. But I think perennially, the Dallas New York

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01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 1: game is one that people want to see more. Fans

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01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 1: want to see that. Green Bay has a very passionate

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01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 1: and fun fan base. And they're one of a kind franchise,

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01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. They're a unique franchise, and Chicago

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01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 1: is one of the all time great old time I mean,

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01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's like like an NHL Original six franchise, right,

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01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm with George Hall. Let's get a lot of history there.

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01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:16,040
Speaker 1: But they have permintally not been very good. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't say yeah, it's a good rivalry. It's not

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Speaker 1: the top rivalry. That's all I'm saying, Maddie, go ahead.

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01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:24,920
Speaker 1: I think I think because of where I'm from, from Chicago,

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01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people know this. I think

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01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:31,840
Speaker 1: it's the biggest rivalry. I mean, Packers bears. Growing up,

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01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 1: nobody in my family liked the Packers at all. If

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01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: anybody's sending anything nice about the Packers, they would get

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01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 1: mad at a bad person. I have this memory of

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01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 1: when I was like in grades school and we were

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01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:51,880
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin for some reason, maybe a family vacation, and

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01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:55,880
Speaker 1: we went to like this big tower and climbed up

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Speaker 1: like this this tower that overlooked this area, and me

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01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 1: and my cousins screamed out near the like over the tower.

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01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 1: Mind you a lot of people were walking up and

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01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:11,440
Speaker 1: down in Packers gear, and you have like five kids

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01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 1: who are all under the age of like twelve, go

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01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:19,320
Speaker 1: Packers suck. And my dad is like, you guys, get

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01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:21,840
Speaker 1: down from this tower. You're not screaming Packers stuck where

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01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of Packers fans over here, like, come on,

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01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 1: it's time to leave, Maddie. I'm surprised at you, good

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Speaker 1: little fan though. I get it though, Chicago fans are

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01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:37,440
Speaker 1: supposed to feel like that, even though they never win

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01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 1: that division or that rival. Rihanna, Dude, the Bears ever

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01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 1: beat the Packers by it happens. Okay, all right, here

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01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 1: we go, Here we go. Also on that that was

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01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 1: from a that was from a CBS Sports dot Com article.

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01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 1: The Packers Bears question about the True Falls about whether

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01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:56,320
Speaker 1: it's the top rival division. Bill's Dolphins is number eight

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01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 1: on their list of top ten. So the Bills make

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01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,840
Speaker 1: the top ten for the ESPN or the CBS Sports

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01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 1: NFL News dot Com their rankings. Okay, NFL True Falls

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01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 1: Number three, Dalvin Cook will become the highest paid running

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01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 1: back in the NFL. That means his holdout it's gonna work.

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01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 1: He's now Christian McCaffrey is making sixteen million bucks a year,

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01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:24,960
Speaker 1: So you think Dalvin Cook is going to be the

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01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 1: highest paid running back then in the National Football League. No,

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01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:31,480
Speaker 1: I do not think he's going to be the highest

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01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 1: paid running back in the National Football League. Christian McCaffrey's

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01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. Dalvin Cook. Maybe maybe down the road. He

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01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:41,120
Speaker 1: had a he had a good season last season, but

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01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 1: he needs to do more to earn that type of money.

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Speaker 1: And also, I think we know how holdouts have worked

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Speaker 1: for running backs in recent history. Not so well, right, exactly,

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01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook's not gonna If Dalvin Cook becomes the highest

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01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:56,640
Speaker 1: paid running back in the National Football League, it's because

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01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 1: the general manager wanted to get fired. There's just no

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01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 1: way you can justified. And I'll tell you this too

2204
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 1: about Christian McCaffrey. He's as good a running back as

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02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:04,640
Speaker 1: there is in the league right now, and he was

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02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:06,800
Speaker 1: as important to his team as any running back in

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02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 1: the league last year. Maybe the most important running back

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02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:12,320
Speaker 1: to his team was Christian McCaffrey. With the injury to

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton, He's not going to see the end of

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Speaker 1: that contract with the Carolina Panthers in my opinion, they

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02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:24,400
Speaker 1: can't sustain a winning atmosphere paying a running back sixteen

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. I think it just screws everything up.

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Speaker 1: And I think that Panthers are going to find that out.

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02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:33,280
Speaker 1: So I think it's false too. So we both think

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight Arizona Cardinals were the biggest

2216
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 1: fluke in team fluke team in NFL history. And you

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02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 1: think the Packers Bears is the top division rivalry in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. I disagree, and we'd neither one

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02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 1: think Dalvin Cook will become the highest paid running back

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02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:51,880
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. That's a dubious honor to me,

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Speaker 1: and not dubious. It's great to be the highest paid guy,

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02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:56,480
Speaker 1: especially when you're making sixteen plus million a year, but

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Speaker 1: you're not going to get there now. You're just not

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02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 1: going to get there. I don't think. I just don't

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02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:06,320
Speaker 1: think it's a nobody's gonna top McCaffrey for that. Who

2226
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:08,880
Speaker 1: was all right, that's NFL true false, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Yancy's Fancy New York's Artistan. Jeez, it's amazing to me,

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Speaker 1: and I was aware of it when I was playing

2229
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Speaker 1: because I was a special teams guy, and you know,

2230
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Speaker 1: I was going to the Pro Bowl once in a

2231
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:23,840
Speaker 1: while and all of that. I had a you know,

2232
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 1: nice career, and I was on a really good team

2233
02:01:26,440 --> 02:01:28,680
Speaker 1: with some really great players. And every time I go

2234
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 1: in for a contract, it was like, well, who you

2235
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 1: comparing yourself too? Because I was listed as a wide receiver, right,

2236
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:39,680
Speaker 1: and none of the other guys who played my position

2237
02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:42,840
Speaker 1: or did what I did that none of them were

2238
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Speaker 1: making as much as I was. Already, you know, like

2239
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Speaker 1: all the special teams guys for other teams were making

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Speaker 1: minimum salaries around the league and all that. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: so I'm like, well, you know who who you know,

2242
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:55,680
Speaker 1: They're like, who you comparing yourself too? You know, Jerry Rice,

2243
02:01:56,960 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 1: you know you're not a wide receiver, right, the special

2244
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 1: teams right, exactly exactly, so you know, you go in there.

2245
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 1: So it's like that's kind of I never thought about it,

2246
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:09,640
Speaker 1: but that's kind of like these running backs now, I said,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you're I don't care if you're

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Speaker 1: the best guy in the league. That's what I you know,

2249
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:14,440
Speaker 1: they were saying, Yeah, you're the best guy special teams

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Speaker 1: player in the league. I can get a you know

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02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 1: I can get a ditch digger and pay him a

2252
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:21,080
Speaker 1: lot of money too, you know. I mean it's like

2253
02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:25,280
Speaker 1: being the highest paid ditch digger. Right, you and your shovel,

2254
02:02:25,320 --> 02:02:27,160
Speaker 1: I'll give you a six fifty an hour. There, it's

2255
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Speaker 1: all you're getting, right, You're not gonna You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: get ay. That's that's where I was. That's where these

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Speaker 1: running backs are, you know, so you know you for me,

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Speaker 1: I always thought, you know, take what the market is.

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02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:42,200
Speaker 1: If you've got a fair market value for you, take

2260
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Speaker 1: it and play man, because it's it's great money. It's

2261
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 1: better to have the team know they can depend on

2262
02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:50,880
Speaker 1: you and know that you're fired up and ready to

2263
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Speaker 1: play than it is to get every last nickel out

2264
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Speaker 1: of them. To me, of course, that's why. Now, that's

2265
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Speaker 1: why I'm still working here in radio. Now, I'm not playing,

2266
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:02,560
Speaker 1: all right, Steve Tasker maddigal, I'm take an early break.

2267
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Speaker 1: Here we got we've got what do we learned coming up?

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna here till three. We're here till three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We're also wrap up the tweet sheet as well. What's

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Speaker 1: the biggest question that the Bills have to answer during

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Speaker 1: training Camp. This is One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. What do we learned? Brought

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Joel Corey, former player agent and

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Speaker 1: current CBS NFL salary cap expert, had this to say

2276
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Speaker 1: about Trenavious White signing his second contract with the Bills. Well,

2277
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Speaker 1: if I'm him, I'm in no hurry to get a

2278
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Speaker 1: deal done because I expect Jalen Ramsey to reset the

2279
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Speaker 1: margin marketing major way, and I let him do all

2280
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Speaker 1: the heavy lifting, and I tell the Bills that whatever

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Speaker 1: he gets is my floor. So I don't think a

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Speaker 1: deal is getting done sooner rather than later unless the deals.

2283
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Speaker 1: Unless the Bills want to go out there and pay

2284
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Speaker 1: him a healthy increase over Byron Jones and hope that

2285
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Speaker 1: that comes in below Jalen Ramsey and give him a

2286
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Speaker 1: very good structure. Otherwise he has no incentive to go now,

2287
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Speaker 1: because I think what's going to happen is you're very

2288
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Speaker 1: good to great players. It doesn't matter what apps to

2289
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Speaker 1: the cap next year, they're going to get paid regardless.

2290
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Speaker 1: We also had Ben Vollen from the Boston Globe. He's

2291
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Speaker 1: their national NFL reporter. He's covered the National Football League

2292
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 1: for the Patriots and for the Globe since twenty thirteen.

2293
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,400
Speaker 1: We asked him what atmosphere what the atmosphere might be

2294
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Speaker 1: like around the National Football League with teams supporting their

2295
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Speaker 1: players in protests during the national anthem. Here's what he said.

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Speaker 1: The events of the last few weeks, I've really touched

2297
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Speaker 1: the nerve across the country and across the NFL, and

2298
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Speaker 1: you're seeing more teams stayed explicitly that they are going

2299
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Speaker 1: to support their players if they do Neil. Not every

2300
02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:00,800
Speaker 1: owner has spoken out, you know, haven't heard from Jerry

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02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:03,960
Speaker 1: Jones and Robert Kraft and certain other owners, but there

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Speaker 1: certainly seems to be a lot more acceptance of a

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Speaker 1: protest at the national anthem, and um, you know that

2304
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:14,600
Speaker 1: the center seems to have shifted from a few years ago.

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02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 1: Like you look at Drew Brees, he certainly took a

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Speaker 1: lot of heat for a position that just a few

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Speaker 1: years ago it was very popular. So I think we'll

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Speaker 1: see a lot of protesting from the players, but I

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Speaker 1: think the NFL is going to be a lot more

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Speaker 1: supportive this time than they were three years ago. That

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Speaker 1: was what we learned. Brought to you by Skyworks, the

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Speaker 1: official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. Mattie,

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Speaker 1: it is a different world now, isn't it than it

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Speaker 1: wasn't twenty sixteen? Yeah, and definitely is. But I hope

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Speaker 1: what can come of this is a world that we

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Speaker 1: can look back on in five years and say, Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm thankful for twenty twenty and the strides of this

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Speaker 1: country made. Yeah. Also, tomorrow on the show, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have Kim pagoulon We've we're gonna talk to her about

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Speaker 1: the Juneteenth Holiday and what some of the things that

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Speaker 1: the Bills are doing and the organizational policies that they

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Speaker 1: put in place. Some stuff going on that's been really

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Speaker 1: fun and interesting for us working at finger Quotes inside

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Speaker 1: the building. Also, we're going to talk to a special

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Speaker 1: teams coordinator, Heath Farwell as well on what's going on

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Speaker 1: with him in this offseason. Also, Maddie, we're gonna air

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Speaker 1: your interview, your roundtable discussion with Jimmy Salgodo, the Bill's

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Speaker 1: Nickel coach, and you Madai Professor of National History, World History,

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Speaker 1: Nathan Hair. They had a nice little round table discussion

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Speaker 1: as well. And also before we go mad one last time,

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Speaker 1: I gotta wish Bruce Smith very happy birthday on his

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Speaker 1: fifty seventh birthday. And also Ray Carlton, the first Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill to ever score a touchdown turns eighty three today

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Speaker 1: he's an Orchard Park. And also one other famous person,

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Speaker 1: Paul McCartney is seventy eight today, so good for him.

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Speaker 1: All that stuff going on. It's been nice, nice day today.

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Speaker 1: It's a really a good show, really a good show.

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Speaker 1: It's a good show, fun show. Sun is shining outside.

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Speaker 1: Time to get outside. After We're gonna do this interview

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Speaker 1: with Kim in Heath and we'll have a lot of

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Speaker 1: great content tomorrow for Juneteenth, because it's important to continue

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Speaker 1: to listen, to learn to educate ourselves. The offices are

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Speaker 1: closed tomorrow, but we're going to stay on because we

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Speaker 1: do believe it's it's cool and important to air some

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Speaker 1: of those great conversations that we've had with each other

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Speaker 1: over the last few weeks as it relates to racial

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Speaker 1: injustice and police brutality in our world. So we hope

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's program can be educational for everybody. Yeah, and it's

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Speaker 1: interesting too you think about that. I just asked you

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Speaker 1: as we came back from the break, man, what a

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Speaker 1: different world we live in today than we did four

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Speaker 1: months ago, for just four months ago, and man, I'm

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Speaker 1: as painful as it was for a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's growing pains for all of us, all right,

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Speaker 1: So deep task or Mattie glab thanks for being with us.

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