1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe for this Wednesday, the fourteenth 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: of June in London. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: Coming up today, back to the future of UK. GDP 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: finally exceeds pre pandemic levels. 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Bailey on the back bus Boe Governor laments slowly cooling inflation. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: Stop right now, thank you very much. FED prepares for 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: a pause, but have rates also peaked? 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: Cracks in Goldman Sachs and the most successful head fund 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: ever bets on China. Those are the stories we're looking 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 3: at in today's papers. I'm James Wilcott. 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Plus the top job glass ceiling report finds a startling 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: lack of female CEOs in retail. 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 4: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. The business 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 4: news you need to start your day in just one 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 4: fifteen minute podcast on Apple, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business App 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: and everywhere you get your podcasts. 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Good burning from London. I'm Stephen Carroll and. 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: I Mana Edwards. You're listening to Daybreak Europe. Now let's 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: get to our top stories. The UK has finally joined 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: other G seven economies in regaining the GDP lost during 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: the pandemic. Output rows by zero point two percent in March, 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: leaving the economy zero point three percent bigger than pre 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: pandemic levels. Our UK correspondent Lizzie Burden broke down the 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: numbers for US. 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 5: It's up from a zero point three percent contraction in 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 5: the previous month and it's driven by services. They grew 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 5: zero point three percent after a zero point five percent 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 5: fall in March, and they had of course been hit 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 5: hard by the wettest March in England and Wales for 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 5: over forty years in that last reading, and the strikes 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 5: holding back services output too. 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: Lizzie Burden also points out that the latest Bloomberg survey 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: has Britain on cause for growth of just zero point 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: two percent this year. That would put the country close 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: to the bottom of the pile of G seven economies. 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: The UK jobs market has so few available workers that 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: employers are having to hoard labor. That's the stark assessment 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: of Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey, who made the 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: comments after official data showed a surprise rise in wages 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: and drop in unemployment. Here's what he told the Economic 41 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: Affairs Committee. 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 6: One of the things that firms pretty much universally say 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 6: to me and have been signed to me for a 44 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 6: little while. Is that they find it so hard to 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 6: recruit labor in the current market that they are not 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 6: going to release labor. There's labour hoarding going on now. 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: Bailey's comments come on the same day the Bank of 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: England's chief economist, Hugh pill said balance has needed between 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: fighting inflation and damaging the economy. Traders New se a 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: fifty percent chance the Central Bank will raise rates to 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: six percent by February. 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: Donald Trump has told supporters he had every right to 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: keep the classified documents found at his Florida estate. The 54 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: former US president appeared in court in Miami, where he 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: pleaded not guilty to thirty seven charges related to mishandling 56 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: sensitive files. Speaking to supporters after the court appearance, Trump 57 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: called the prosecution a sham. 58 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 7: Threatening me with four hundred years in prison for possessing 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 7: my own presidential papers, which just about every other president 60 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 7: has done, is one of the most outrageous and vicious 61 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 7: legal theories ever put forward in an American. 62 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 8: Court of law. 63 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: Trump is trying to turn his second indictment in ten 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: weeks into a fresh opportunity to garner support for a 65 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: White House comeback. The former president currently leads his nearest 66 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: Republican primary challenger Ron de Santis by over thirty points. 67 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: Ireland's enterprising trade minister has told us that the European 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: Union in the United States are moving closer together on 69 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: tech regulation. This is the European Union is expected to 70 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: hit Google with the formal anti trust complaint over its 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: advertising tech business as soon as today. Simon Coveny told 72 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: us on Bloomberg Daybreak Europe that countries need a common 73 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: approach on tech regulation. 74 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 8: You know, there's a really improving relationship between the US 75 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 8: and the EU and this space. You know, we do have, 76 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 8: you know, an approach to technology now on both sides 77 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 8: of the Atlantic that I think is moving closer together 78 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 8: rather than further apart in terms of some of these 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 8: regulatary challenges. 80 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: Ireland's Trade Minister Simon Coveney speaking to us there from Paris, 81 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: where he's attending the VIVATEC startup events. 82 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: Od Asset Management is shotting its Swan Fund and gating 83 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: two other funds after redemption requests surged. The Hedge Fund 84 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: made the decision as it moves to contain a crisis 85 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: triggered by the publication of sexual assault allegations against his founder, 86 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,559 Speaker 2: Crispin od He denies all the allegations against him. Odio 87 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: Asset Management says it will redeem those who had invested 88 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: in its SWAN fund by the fourth of September. 89 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 1: Chip maker AMD has given a preview of an AI 90 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: accelerator that it believes will rival the offering from market 91 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: leader in Vidia. Blinburg's Charlie Palett has the story. 92 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 9: Out of presentation in San Francisco, AMD showcased its upcoming 93 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 9: line of artificial intelligence processors, aiming to help data centers 94 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 9: handle a crush of AI traffic and challenging video's dominance 95 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 9: in the market with companies Instinct MI I three hundred 96 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 9: series will include an accelerator that can speed processing for 97 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 9: generative AI, the technology used by chat GPT and other chatbots. 98 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 9: Like much of the chip industry, am D is racing 99 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 9: to meet booming demand for AI computing in New York. 100 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 9: Charlie Palette Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 101 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: British retailers need to go further to improve diversity in 102 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: their leadership. That is according to a new report co 103 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: authored by the British Retail Consortium, which found women are 104 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: still underrepresented in senior roles. Out of more than two 105 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: hundred businesses surveyed, only thirteen were found to have female chairs, 106 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: while less than twenty five percent have female CEOs or CFOs. 107 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: Retail is one of the largest employers in the UK 108 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: and women make up more than half the workforce in 109 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: the sector. 110 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 1: So as are our top stories on the program this morning. 111 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I think that had a chance 112 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: to read Adrian Wildertter's column this morning about living in 113 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: an age of goodie goodie business? Have you every ready 114 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: keyserving a goodie goody anna not for some decades? Reading 115 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: out his face over that, I suggest that perhaps perhaps not. Look, 116 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: it's a very interesting argument that he makes, is that 117 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: being bad quote unquote can confer competitive advantage, and perhaps 118 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: businesses can put their money or put their approach into 119 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: being bad and not necessarily the following the kind of 120 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: the idea of you know, shared value capitalism, conscious capitalism, 121 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: compassionate capitalism, all these sort of terms that we see 122 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: bandied about, the alternative approach being the perhaps a bit 123 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: more brash, you know, the Elon Musk types, the Michael 124 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: o'learies of this world, that perhaps they can they can 125 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: be more provocateur and do better businesses. 126 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: That makes a distinction, doesn't he, between running very established, 127 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: long history stable businesses and entrepreneurial culture, doesn't he? And 128 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: he suggests that being bad is good in the latter sense. 129 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: But what what does bad mean in this context? 130 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: Well, it's the idea that companies can can relish their 131 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: bad boy image and be able to Oh this curiously 132 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: be about girl image, not generous specific either, but the 133 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: idea that people make their business decisions based on the 134 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: fundamentals of the business and not necessarily comments that they 135 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: make around inclusives, Which is interesting about a conversation we're 136 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: going to have later in the program actually as well, 137 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: because Ian Anderson is going to join us, who is 138 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: the founder and executive chairman of Hate Advisor CISRO, and 139 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: he's actually someone who's a very good voice to have 140 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: on this, and we're talking about Pride Month and representation 141 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: and how actually companies should be behaving at this time 142 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: of year and how exactly they can use this to 143 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: their advantage as well. So that's the conversation we'll have 144 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: coming up for you a little bit later. 145 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: Okay, right now, though, we need to get back to 146 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: the macro story. The Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey 147 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: says it's taking a lot longer than expected for inflation 148 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: to come down after data out yesterday showed continued tightness 149 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: in the UK's labor market. Our colleague, senior UK economist 150 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: Dan Hansen, joins us now with analysis. So we had 151 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: the labor market data yesterday, Dan, which I imagine is still 152 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 2: shaking markets a little. I'm just looking at guilt yields. 153 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: Actually no standout rising guilt eiels to but certainly we 154 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: sawt of standout rising guilty eels yesterday. The GDP data. 155 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: Did it sort of add a little calmness to the 156 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: UK narrative this morning? What was your assessment? 157 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 10: I mean, I think it came in broadly as expected. 158 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 10: It was a little bit weaker than we thought it 159 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 10: would be, but I think it's broadly in line. I mean, 160 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 10: the big picture from the GDP data is that it's 161 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 10: just holding up much better than anyone i'd expected, even 162 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 10: sort of six months ago. And there are sort of 163 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 10: lots of reasons for that. One is the labor market, 164 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 10: which you've just mentioned. There's energy, lower energy prices that's 165 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 10: helping the global economy generally is probably doing a little 166 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 10: bit better than people have expected. So all those things 167 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 10: are adding to this picture of GDP resilience. And this 168 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 10: is sort of I'm saying resilience here relative to a 169 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 10: picture where we're expecting a sort of nineteen nineties recession 170 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 10: just six months ago. Instead we're having it, we're dodging recession, 171 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 10: and we're in a sort of period of broad stagnation. 172 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 10: And what that's doing is it's feeding through to the 173 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 10: labor market, which is what we saw in the data yesterday, 174 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 10: and it's ensuring that inflation is staying stickier than the 175 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 10: Bank of England would like, which is what Andrew Bailey 176 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 10: said yesterday. So all these all this story is all linked, 177 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 10: and I think the GDP data today just sort of 178 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 10: confirmed what we what we've been seeing, which is this 179 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 10: picture of broad resilience and sticky inflation. 180 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: So if we're thinking about where the trajectory for GDP 181 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: goes from here, we shouldn't be popping champagne quirks. Yes, 182 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: although that did actually help in boosting the GDP. 183 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: In April, even if it was apparently raining, I've forgotten 184 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: it's so hot, right, I can't remember rain. My garden 185 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: doesn't remember rain and. 186 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 10: Not it doesn't it's really hot. But look, I think Stephen, 187 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 10: you're you're right that what we've we've had this picture 188 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 10: of resilience. But going forward, I think this there's this 189 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 10: real tension now between what Anna mentioned at the start, 190 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 10: which is this massive rise in borrowing cost that we've 191 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 10: seen off the back of not only April's CPI number 192 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 10: but also the laid market data yesterday, and this picture 193 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 10: coming out from forecasters where there appears to be this 194 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 10: narrative of the UK moving away from reset, but actually 195 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 10: it feels to me that we're moving back towards it. 196 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 10: And actually not only that, it feels like that sort 197 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 10: of level of weakness might be what's necessary if the 198 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 10: Bank of England's going to have any hope of getting 199 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 10: inflation back under control over a reasonable timeframe. So I think, 200 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 10: you know, a picture of resilience now moving into the 201 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 10: second half of the year, there is this big risk 202 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 10: hanging over the economy. 203 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: So what is your expectation for how the Bank of 204 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: England navigates this? 205 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 10: Then, Dan, Well, look, I mean you look at if 206 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 10: you look at if you look at the market market pricing. 207 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 10: Now you've got a peak of five seventy five. I 208 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 10: think it's by December or potentially February of next year. 209 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 10: We've got a peak of five now. Clearly then the 210 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 10: risks to our call are to the upside, and that 211 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 10: is definitely the case given what we saw with the 212 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 10: LAIB market data yesterday. I think the bank will be 213 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 10: cognizant of the impact of what it's done on the economy. 214 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 10: We know mortgage rates well, we've seen mortgage rates go up, 215 00:10:59,160 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 10: but a lot of people haven't. 216 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lag. 217 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 10: There is a big lag there and it's going to 218 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 10: hit the economy. And there are some and it sounds 219 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 10: crazy to say it probably given the context, but there 220 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 10: are points in the over the course of the remainder 221 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 10: of the year where the inflation data will look a 222 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 10: little bit better. And that's purely because of energy prices. 223 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 10: It's not about an underlying picture, but it's just the 224 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 10: narrative around inflation will become a little bit easier because 225 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 10: of falling wholesale energy prices will get into the numbers. 226 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 10: There'll be base effects as well, So that's that's why 227 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 10: we think September is the time that they might look 228 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 10: to pause. That said, if we get continue this data 229 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 10: raft of data continues as it has done, where the 230 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 10: market is just won't look like an unreasonable place whatsoever. 231 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: I said at you for not using sporting mataphors and 232 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: saying that it's old to play for it. But it 233 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: feels a little bit like it might be in your 234 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: UK A kind of us at Pomberg Economics, Dan Hansen, 235 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us for year analysis on that. 236 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 2: Next most successful hedge fund ever, bets on China and 237 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: cracks at Golden Sacks. 238 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: Now the paper review on Bluebird, Daybreak Europe, the news 239 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 4: you need to know from today's papers. 240 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: And Bloombergs Names. Wilcot joins us now for more and 241 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: what's in the paper is James, good morning to you. 242 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: Let's start with the Financial Times. They've got an interview 243 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: with Citadel's Ken Griffin. 244 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: Good morning to you Tuesday. Yes, and it's been a 245 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: fascinating trend. We've seen Jamie Diamond, El Musk I all 246 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: made that trip to China recently, part of a trend 247 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: of American executives making the journey. And now Ken Griffin 248 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 3: is there and the Ft have interviewed the sort of 249 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: head of the fifty four billion dollar asset manager, and 250 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: we call the most successful head for never. That was 251 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: because of the sixteen billion dollars they made for investors 252 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: last year after fees. Now, when he says that if 253 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: China were growth were not to fulfill its promise, that 254 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: would be a major speed bump to the US not 255 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: having a recession, we should take it really seriously. But 256 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 3: the flip side is he says that there in health 257 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: the economic view is that actually they are more optimistic 258 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: than most people on China. They think China will accelerate 259 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: beyond their fort the average forecast because, as he puts it, 260 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 3: the politbureau and Chinese sort of political class now have 261 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: growth clearly on their priority list. 262 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: Again, Okay, that's really interesting, isn't it his interpretation of 263 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: what we heard from China this week. Now, Goldman has 264 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: a partner problem this according to the Wall Street Journal. 265 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: What's the reporting there. 266 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: Well, so they've got all the gossip anner. They have 267 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: found out that the formerst ZEO Looyd Blanca Flyn recently 268 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: held court and was complaining about the current CEO, David Solomon, 269 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 3: who he says was spending too much time away from 270 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: his day job jetting around a goblin's private planes and 271 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: DJing at nightclubs and festivals. I mean, it's like Stephen here, 272 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: all the all the private jets and DJing coming on. 273 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: But there is a big, big nugget of truth buried 274 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: inside of this, which is Solomon is the first CEO 275 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: who didn't work at the bank point it was a 276 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: private partnership. And the story of how Goldman in the 277 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 3: eighteen hundreds was run majority by the partners, went public 278 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: in the early sort of two thousands, and then looking 279 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: at the ownership of the shares there in two thousand, 280 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: a year after it went public, the partners had sixty 281 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: two percent of the shares. By the time Solomon took 282 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: over in twenty eighteen, the partner's owned four percent. And 283 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: he has tried to revolutionize the way the bank runs 284 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: as him as a cd AT CEO rather than various 285 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: sort of fiefdoms, and that has led to discontent over 286 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: things like when he then takes the bank into sort 287 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: of more of a consumer direction and has had to 288 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: row back on that. Partners feel they can't have a 289 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: conversation with him like before in the way that they 290 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: would say blank, fine, And so all this tension is 291 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: playing out over things like say does he do over DJing, 292 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: does he do these kind of small things. But the 293 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: Wall Sea Journal is sort of put in this big 294 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: long read that actually it speaks to a wider decade 295 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: long transition that's happened at the bank and the tensions 296 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: around how it runs in the modern era. 297 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's in the Wall Street Journal. Let's go 298 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: to the Times next, James. They're tracking a growing uproar 299 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: over libor. 300 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: Yes, now we covered this a few weeks back. It's 301 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: all about the former BUC journalist Andy Verity, who is 302 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: serializing a book in the Times called rig which is 303 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: all about how for the Great Financial Crash, there was 304 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: a big inquiry into librar the interbank rates, and there 305 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: was this argument that banks had, especially the individual bankers, 306 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: had artificially kept it low, which obviously is fraud. And 307 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: then a lot of bankers went to jail. Now rigged 308 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: the reporting alleges that senior figures at the BOE in 309 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: the UK government put pressure on some of these bankers 310 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: in places like Barclays to keep the rate low because 311 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: the idea being is if the government had intervened and 312 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: there is less risk that should then have an impact 313 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: on librar and if libel was remaining high, that might 314 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: suggest the interventions weren't working. Now, the latest story in 315 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: this in The Times, with that being said, is Lord Tyree, 316 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: who ran the inquiry in the Treasury Selec Committee at 317 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: the time, has written a joint letter with no one 318 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: but David Davis, the form of Brexit Secretary and John McDonnell, 319 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: the Exit Shadow Chancellor, who were very different figures politically, 320 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: all saying that they think that there was crucial evidence 321 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 3: withheld from Parliament at the time over the alleged involvement 322 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 3: and expressing concern parliamentaries were misled over the inquiry and 323 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: so that adds a serious amount of weight to some 324 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: of varities reporting, although obviously the thing is conclusive yet 325 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: and so they're arguing that this should be reopened and 326 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: re look at again, which is again a fascinating story 327 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 3: that will keep you updated on