1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm here with Daddy. Ah, Daddy's looking good. You're my hero. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were a dick yet, very similar 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: to golf we did. This is my fourth Well, it's 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: my fleabag camera. I can't really wake up before seven 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: unless it's for overcompensating. 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: And you have some exciting news about that we're doing 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: season two. 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 3: Like are you thick? 9 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Like your son's gay? And did I say? Why do 10 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: you watch it? Yeah? I've been thinking about the Oregon 11 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: coast a lot lately. The dogs become really important. I 12 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: think little Bob, well, any excuse to wear away? That's 13 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: the face of Balnciaga. Do you guys get that? Hey, 14 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: he's no chain toogal now. But we shouldn't be allowed 15 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: to podcast, No, we shouldn't. What do we even do? 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: What are we even doing? By the way, ladies and gentlemen, 17 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: this is what are we even doing? And we're here 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: with Benny Drama. I'm here with Daddy Oh, and we 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: just start some really really good news we're going to 20 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: get to so, as you know, we are interviewing actors, 21 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: creators all type about their world, their creative world, how 22 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: they use social media, what's happening we get weird together 23 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 2: in a good way, and today we have it. I'm 24 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: going to do a proper introduction brilliant comedian, writer, actor, 25 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 2: podcast host Idaho. 26 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: And oh yeah before acting of course they do, of course, 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: and my on. 28 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 2: Screen biological song yes blood relative. Yeah, almost only because 29 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: you're from Bois and I'm from Yakama. 30 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we can talk about the relations somewhere. There 31 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: is definitely a cross over there. 32 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: I am happy, happy, happy to be here with you. You're 33 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: my hero, pleas your bless your heart. 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: So we do podcasts together a lot. This is kind 35 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: of our thing now. 36 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: I think it could be because we did the one 37 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: for a twenty four Yeah, explosive and talk to Yeah, 38 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: yeah it was. It was fantastic. Yeah, talking about overcompensating 39 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: so fun. And you have some exciting news about that. 40 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: I do, and I think we can share. Yeah, we're 41 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: doing season two. We're going back. We're going back. 42 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: There's one hundred people here. Yeah, yes, the audience. 43 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm so excited because I started to tell you a 44 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: few things I wanted us to do, but I was 45 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: just saying, like, you don't want to fall in love 46 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: too much with storylines and stuff. I'm like, please just 47 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: let this happen. So now I'm just like, I'm a 48 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: nightmare to have dinner with right now, because I'll just 49 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: literally in the middle of a story. I'll be like, 50 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: so then Carmen's trying to get Benny's skinny jeans off, right, 51 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: and they're just like cool, you like you're not here. 52 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: It's like you're already writing, You're in the writer You're 53 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: already working it. Are you going to stay here and 54 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: do the writer's room here in La Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 55 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: we do. I think we're gonna do a little bit 56 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: in New York. A few of the writers are there, 57 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: Wally and Mary Beth are doing the room with me 58 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: as well, so which would be so fun. But we 59 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: do it on zoom, you know, which works. Yeah, so 60 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: we kind of I think we're going to do a 61 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: mix of in person in zoom this time. Last time 62 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: it was just zoom, which I think was good for 63 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: me because I had never done a room before, so 64 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: I was like I needed something to, you know, fidget 65 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: with things. Yeah, so nervous, and I was with like 66 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: peers and people I've like looked up to, and yeah, 67 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: you just get so. 68 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: You've seemed to be like you handled yourself really really well. 69 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: I mean, and that's of course watching you during the 70 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: filming when I was there, and just how you handle 71 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: everything and just you know, like a pro. 72 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: That is so nice to hear you say that, because 73 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: when you came in, I have never been more nervous. 74 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: And the first thing we did was you and my 75 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: room changes, like where you put on my close and 76 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: I remember just being like, I had this really weird 77 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: moment where I find this all the time where it's 78 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: like hearing your voice is what really freaked me out. 79 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: The mom It's like hearing your voice and Connie's voice 80 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: they're actually here. 81 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I just was mid And then also 82 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: I have the thing too where then I just start 83 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: to watch like it's so fun because you've. 84 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: Written the you know words, and now you get to 85 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: watch like cal McLaughlin's doing it, and I so yeah, 86 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like sitting back. I was like, oh fuck, 87 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm in the scene with him. Yeah. Let mean I 88 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: did that at the dinner. 89 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: Table scene to pay attention. 90 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, oh yeah, I engage with you. Sorry, yeah, 91 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: but oh. 92 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: I love an audience and that was fun to the 93 00:03:59,000 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: dinner scene. 94 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 95 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: Well, what he had written was so perfect. I was 96 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: just like, oh, I'm gonna take this as far as 97 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: I can the. 98 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: Way you did. And I wrote that was Scott King 99 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: and that is one of those scenes. And he had 100 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: known Connie for so like they had worked together. Oh 101 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know, Okay, okay, it was just like and 102 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: you were our dreamcast, so it was like we I 103 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: think that was one of the easiest things to edit. 104 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: Like that was one of those things where also the 105 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: first time I watched it was what is on screen? 106 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: Like it was just like that scene is so and 107 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: with the lights and we played with the light flickering 108 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: a lot and posted the one part I broke and 109 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm so bad. I break in every scene, but with 110 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: the you. 111 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, it's just like, I mean, that was 112 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: such a that was such a brilliant, brilliant idea. I 113 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: don't know, you know, you have these things and like experience. 114 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: I had so many friends parents who were all doing 115 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: in visil line at the same time, okay, and I 116 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: don't know why, but it was like I think maybe 117 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: for their kids weddings. They were all like, I'm getting 118 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: straight teeth, Like my parents did it and then Mary 119 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: Beth had done it randomly, and then her I think 120 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: maybe her mom had done it, like just an assortment 121 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: of parents. So I was like, let's give him envissile, 122 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: and I thought maybe I didn't. I mean, I assumed 123 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: you were the best. I didn't know you were a 124 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: dick yet. But I was just like, I think he'll 125 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: be down. And then right now day one in the trailer, 126 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: you were like trying on my enviscile. 127 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm so excited. It's gonna how I'm going to talk? 128 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: It was good, just it just informs a character so 129 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: so much. Those little things that you lay in really 130 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: support the character. 131 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: What you're doing. 132 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: You know what I mean to take and just make 133 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: it very easy. So I was nervous at first day too. 134 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm walking in, I'm like, I got to take my 135 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: shirt off now, and I'm like, okay, I'm a man 136 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: of a certain age. 137 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: My daddy, Daddy's like, good, do the best he can. 138 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: No, in the take, I should have gone ship dad, Yeah, 139 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: right that one mile up and down the block? 140 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: You ate that up? 141 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no I can't. We kind of threw you 142 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: into the deep end there, but fantastic. I love it. 143 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: I love it. 144 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: I love working with Connie. She is so I had 145 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: not worked there before. 146 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: I mean to kne who she was. 147 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 2: Of course, she has that rare quality where I can't 148 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: tell if she knows that she's funny or what she 149 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: just is. 150 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: Oh, it's so, you know, It's like that is such 151 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: a perfect way of describing her, because it's I think 152 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: she you know, maybe in the back of her mind nose, 153 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: but I think there's something where she like knows she 154 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: has the power in the scene. Because I always felt 155 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: that I'm like she it doesn't feel like someone trying 156 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: to be seen by the camera in a way, and 157 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: I felt the same way with you. It's just like 158 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: it's there, which I think is a tendency in comedy, 159 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: is like I have to make sure the camera sees 160 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: the bit I'm doing, whereas I feel like in every 161 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: take with both of you, you were doing such different 162 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: things and that was so exciting to. 163 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: See the interesting you say that because I think when 164 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: I first started, I was like much more aware of 165 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: the camera and much more aware of like matching things 166 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: and is catching everything. And then as I kind of 167 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: you know, went got older and went through things, I 168 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: was like, you know, what more and more. It's about 169 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: like trying not to show just the thing and not 170 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: even the cameras like it's gonna get what it's going 171 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: to get. 172 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: The play of it, like watching both of you play. Yeah, 173 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: she has that crazy monologue out with the dogs, and 174 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: she also chow Chow puppies are not relaxed and they're 175 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: not particularly sweet, and sometimes the chow chow community is 176 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: going to come for me, you see my trauma from 177 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: having a podcast big. I'm like, I love chow Chow's, 178 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: by the way, but watching her do that, there was 179 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: no take that was similar. She just like and the 180 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: way she would riff. And also she has this line 181 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: where she's like, I didn't and it was one of 182 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: my favorite lines to write because it felt so like 183 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: what my mom would say. She's like, I didn't want 184 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: to do J jail because it would ruin it. I 185 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: didn't want to ruin it for me, so I did 186 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: J Crue factory And just her saying that she kind 187 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: of threw it away, and I was like, God, she's brilliant. 188 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: You're so smart. 189 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask you about growing up in 190 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: a small town in the Northwest. Yeah, because we share 191 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: that you're from Boise, Idaho. I'm from Yakama, Washington. 192 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 193 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: I think the two towns are very similar. Can Napoleon 194 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: was Napoleon died and it. 195 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: Was it was in I think Rexburg, Idaho. Okay, yeah, okay, 196 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: but I've described it as this and and now everyone 197 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: around me is like, sure, I guess that makes kind 198 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: of sense. But we grew up with the sawtooth mountains 199 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: go through Voice beautiful, and so I every morning, like 200 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: at the end of my drive, like I could see 201 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: the mountains where we would ski in the winter, and 202 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: it helped me with direction. So everywhere I go, I know, 203 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: based on I find my mountain. Ye, yeah, I know 204 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: where I am. So nothing else in my personality would 205 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: make it seem like I'm good at directions, but I'm 206 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: actually good. And I think it's because of growing up 207 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: with a view that having. 208 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: I think I agree with you, you know, reference exactly. Yeah, yeah, meane, 209 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: this is my wee b. We didn't have any mountains. 210 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: We could see the cascades so pretty, and we could 211 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: see some of the mountains like Mount Rain near Mount Adams. 212 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: We couldn't see Mount Saint Helen's, but there was a 213 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: few that we could see. 214 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: And so that's the way you. 215 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: Got your we got I got my remember where things are? 216 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: You know Helen? But saw tooths are those are some beautiful. Yeah. 217 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: That's why I think sometimes people think Idaho flat or Midwest. 218 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: No hate to that, No, no, I love you. Yeah, 219 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: but it's the this is my fourth wall. It's my 220 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: flea bag camera right here, which is yours, yours. It's 221 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: just like, I'm like, it's so funny that you're thinking 222 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: of Idaho. It's like because to me, I'm like, it's mountains, 223 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: like mountains and Mount Saint Helen is so funny. My 224 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: grandparents flew over it five hours before it went off. 225 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: That's where that get here on the back, I know it. 226 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: And I grew up with crazy hearing about Mount Saint 227 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: Helens for so that was like, you know, that crazed 228 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: my family all golf, So we were like driving around. Yeah, 229 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: that's why I was always in Washington and and see 230 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: you golf. 231 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: Wa do we talk about this? So because I grew 232 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: up on the golf team in high school, I wasn't 233 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: I wasn't very all my siblings did I know. 234 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: I did football. 235 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: And then when I was in college I did radio 236 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: DJ so, but all my siblings played college golf very 237 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: similar to GOLFO well of course, well yeah, it's like 238 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: it's either if one doesn't work, you have Okay, golf 239 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: was tricky for me. I'm not patient. 240 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah I well yeah, and also yeah exactly. 241 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: Like I remember I was doing it one morning and 242 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: I probably was like nine. This guy was keeping scoring. 243 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: He was like the dad of one of the kids 244 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: I was playing with, so like, I don't know, they 245 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: just all bothered me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I got 246 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: like it took me an eleven shots to get out 247 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: of the sand trap on this one hole, and then 248 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: I just by the end, I was just so fucking pissed. 249 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: And the guy to me was like, you know what's 250 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: great about golf is that you have the next hole 251 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: and it's just a total. It's just a wash, like 252 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: it's just all new. And I was like, yeah, that's 253 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: really cool. You're still going to count that fifteen I 254 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: shot on that last whole, right, yeah, And then I 255 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: was just like I shouldn't play this, like some of 256 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: my parents put me into track instead of spring. Oh 257 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: and I could, you could, and that would be yeah, 258 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: but that football and track. 259 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good. Was the classic sports. And of 260 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: course golf was not cool when I was when I 261 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: was in school, it was not cool. 262 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: See it kind of got like I got my siblings, 263 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: it being kind of you know, is the Tiger Woods 264 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: of golf at that. 265 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: Was when it was good, and now it's kind of 266 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: gone back, I think into some other. 267 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I don't I don't 268 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: know if I'm allowed on courses anymore. But I love 269 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: taking a you know, whack at it. 270 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so that's high school. Did you do sports 271 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: in college Georgetown? 272 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: No. I was the first of my family did not 273 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: play a sport. But still, like I mean, I've always 274 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: kind of been like a semi gym guy, you know. 275 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: I love like I was maybe going to do like 276 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: a running team and then or a running club. You know. 277 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: They kind of really scout intensely for crew on those 278 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: East Go schools, for sure, So I thought about that. 279 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: But I can't really like unless it's for overcomptable. I 280 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: got to be on camera, But. 281 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: Did you you didn't row? 282 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, because you imagine the tub at the Yeah, 283 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: I would have been probably a little tricky and boys 284 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: we had to drive to like ketch him or McCall 285 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: which or you catch well, actually, no, there's no lake 286 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: in ketcham. I'm going to get right for that, McCall. 287 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: I haven't been home. Oh. People love to say that 288 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: to me, and I'm like, sometimes I don't know. Yeah, 289 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: I think I was just sad movie theaters. 290 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: I love it. 291 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: I just love the Northwest. I do, I really. 292 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: I mean it's a certain to it. And so there's 293 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: a scent and a smell and a look in tree right, 294 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm really trying about. 295 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: The news, about the news about coming back. 296 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: It's gonna be great. I think we have one of 297 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: the great father son relationships and there's more to mine, 298 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean about that relationship. 299 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, like almost Connie got more of the emotional beats 300 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: in this season, you know, which I think does make 301 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: sense for a lot of these experiences of you know, 302 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: when people come out. I think moms have a different 303 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: relationship to it than dads in a way. I agree. 304 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: I've just been rereading this book, The Velvet Rage, which 305 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: is kind of about this experience of being in the 306 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: closet and as you come out and and how that 307 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: manifests in different ways for you. You know, and how 308 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: it I think kind of changes who you are. And 309 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: it talks about that too, the relationship between parents, and 310 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: so I think, you know, looking into season two, I 311 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: am excited for Also there more emotion, I think. 312 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm usually I'm curious about the journey. I'm looking 313 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: forward to the journey because I think, at the end 314 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: of the day, this is this person is your flesh 315 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: and blood, right, this is your son or your daughter, 316 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: and that supersedes everything. Of course, I mean there's nothing whatever, 317 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 2: whatever they're going through, whatever's happening, you know, you find acceptance, 318 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: You find. 319 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: A way to understand you. 320 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: You work towards that if you're having a difficulty, if 321 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: it's not just immediate, you know, because you just can't 322 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: be denied. 323 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: The relationship can't be denied. So I'm really I'm. 324 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: Curious to find out how if my character sort of 325 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: finds his way to connect with you. 326 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: It's also I'm now having, you know, this excitement with 327 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: writing season two of like I get to write for 328 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: you, you know, it's like the dream before of you know, 329 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: and now I get to know that it's waally yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, 330 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think that's what's kind of yeah, to 331 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: go and a confidence with with you now, you know. 332 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: It's like, I like, that is so exciting to me 333 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: that I'm like, I know you and I know also 334 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: and being on set with you, I'm like, how what 335 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: would be like fun and enjoyable as an actor to 336 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: get to do with you and play But you know, 337 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: I think I told you. It's it's so interesting. It's 338 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: like parents go through this journey and then at the 339 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: other side of it, they're like wearing pride merch yes, 340 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, and it's just like so funny. 341 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: You can see that happening and she's like, well, well 342 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: now it's like, yeah, let's get let's get in at the. 343 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: North Face pride merch. Yes, my dad does, and he 344 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: looks greted. Yeah yeah. I'm like hell yeah, King. 345 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: Like light that up and he's like check it. 346 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm like I love the rainbow fabulous, yes, but all that's. 347 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: All that's going to awaken, which I think is really 348 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: fun and just. 349 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: Like I love doing bits with I mean, just you, 350 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: having bits and parent bits are fun to just I 351 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: lean to dad bits, you know me like yeah, and 352 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: I want to see the J Crew factory with Connie. 353 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: That would be fun too. I really want to we 354 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: gotta find them all. 355 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: Well, you know, and I do, And I actually love 356 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: that relationship too. I love the fact that I think 357 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: you really believe that we're parents, Yeah, that have been 358 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: together for a long time and you know, gone through 359 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: all sorts of different things, and you know, we're connected, 360 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: we're together, but we're also doing our. 361 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: Own thing and you know, now we're all gone. So 362 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: it's like I think that you know, we were talking 363 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: about it in the writer's room. Everyone kind of had 364 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: different stories of when they left and what their parents 365 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: how that affected their parents' lives because they were like, well, 366 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: they've just given eighteen years to being so focused on you. 367 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: Now they're trying to rEFInd out who they are without 368 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: you in the house, and then almost coming back together 369 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: and re meeting each other, yes, like not parents, but 370 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: as like partners, which I think is really that. 371 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: I think that's that's that's really true. In fact, we're 372 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: my wife and I are facing our sons and a 373 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: rising in a senior year. He's just started a senior 374 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: so one year and he's off somewhere. 375 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: That's crazy. We only have one. So yeah, that's a 376 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: little I'm not going to terrify. The dogs become really important. 377 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: I think, oh, the dogs. My mom is absolutely the 378 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: dogs become huge. 379 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely God, which is we're. 380 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: On that way. My dogs smell better than any human 381 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: I met. Like it's explosive. I go, oh, just the 382 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: coats on those goldens. Sorry, we didn't do golden so 383 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: goldens would have been easier. So then Scott King, our showrunner, 384 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: loves cow Chow's, so that's why we did twelve. 385 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: I was I going on really going to chow Land. 386 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: Okay, well it's one of these Okay, so going to 387 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: chow Land? Okay, clip that? 388 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: But there was that, Yeah, I heard clip that. 389 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: But that's one of those things where you write in 390 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: a script and this is something that it sounds like. 391 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: So I feel very lucky that this is true. But 392 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: you'll write something in a script and you've read it 393 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: so many times you don't even really read the stage 394 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: direction anymore. So I kind of forget sometimes. But then 395 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: obviously a production designer, you know, everyone is is like, well, 396 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: this is what's in script, and like, we want to 397 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: make the world come to life as like the writers 398 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: have written. So it would be something like that where 399 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: all of a sudden They're like, yeah, and you wanted 400 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: this girl to have a service dog that was a poodle, right, 401 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: And I'm like. 402 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like, well, we've looked. 403 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: All over Toronto. We found one. And I was just like, 404 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's so bad. 405 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, we could have easily because like your wishes 406 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: their command. 407 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: Like they're like, yeah, this is the way, and I'm like, 408 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, I just didn't much time. Did you 409 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: spend exactly cost? And what did it take? Shout out 410 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: Josh who found those childs for you? I think that 411 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: took a really long time to find chow chow puppies 412 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: that were okay to be filmed, Yeah, and be handled 413 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: by an actor. Yeah, it was so yeah. Yeah, next 414 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: time I'll be maybe a little things. Yeah, yeah, do 415 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: you have any requests? We're gonna do it. Well. 416 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk a little bit too about because we 417 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: talked about were commentating a lot. But I'm very excited 418 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: about that we're gonna shoot in Toronto. 419 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: What do we know? I don't know. Campuses are hard. 420 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: Shooting on campuses is tricky, so trying to figure that out. 421 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: And during this school year. School year, we had we 422 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: had one night that was So it was one of 423 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: those things where then after you just feel like this 424 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: is so cool that this is like really happening. But 425 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: we were shooting on campus with me and Wally and 426 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: we were doing a golf cart sequence and then this 427 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: one where we're walking and you know, I say that 428 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm super picky with girls, and then I asked her 429 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm not picky at all with God. 430 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: And we look up after a take because we kept 431 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: hearing like people time. We were like what and there 432 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: was like a high school camp that they had within 433 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: the dorms in there they were it was an entire 434 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 1: row of these like high school boys filming us and 435 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: filming her. I was just like, yeah, we should probably 436 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: do it on a closed this decision I saw I 437 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: still get, you know, tagged in those videos, and I'm like, 438 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: that's like, there you go. 439 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: That was a private Having a successful show, you know 440 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: you just gonna be yeah, you're gonna be hrdhlighted. So 441 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: but you've done some really fun characters too. So I 442 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: was not familiar with these characters when we were together, 443 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 2: but looked into some of them. 444 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: That's scary. 445 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: I don't think that you're doing these anymore. 446 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: But it's been a while. 447 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: Deliverance Richard just one that I got a kick out of. 448 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: She would love you, yeah, to sell you a vineyard 449 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: all in. I miss her a lot. I really do 450 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: miss being Deliverance. She was. She is kind of just me. 451 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: You're just free association, going crazy. 452 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: Just going to town like. I love her. I did 453 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: her because I was I was looking for a place, 454 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: and I kept meeting with different realitors and every single 455 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: time I found that a few of them I met with. 456 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: Anything I said, they went with. And then so I 457 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: would be like, yeah, I really liked it, and they're like, 458 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: isn't it the best? And I'm like, yeah, but this 459 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: one thing, you know, I'm not loving. They're like right, 460 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: like I fucking lived there and kill myself before it. 461 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, do you like it or not? 462 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: Like wait, should I not get it? And I just 463 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: and the outfits and the selling sunset and the fingernails, 464 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: remember the whole thing. I love having. I wear like 465 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: gloves and I wear like hats. I did a pregnant 466 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: belly at one point just because I was like, I 467 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: think she'd be pregnant still walk in this you know, 468 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: so she was fun. 469 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: That was one of my favorite. Jenny the TMI hair 470 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: shy list scared me. 471 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: You'd love to give you a cut? 472 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet you would. I just don't still give 473 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: you a die job. I would just be like, I'm 474 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: a deer in headlights. I'm like, oh, no, was there 475 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: one that you were like, oh, this is close to me? 476 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: Just one of the characters that you created? 477 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know what's funny. I actually one 478 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: of the first characters I did was Haley, who became 479 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: the character in the show Oh, played by Holmes so 480 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: brilliantly one of the most talented people I've met, and 481 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: I that was something where we had done a stand 482 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: up show together like two years maybe two years prior 483 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: to shooting. I think that's what they said. They said, yes, 484 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: that's how you met. We met in backstage. It was 485 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: at the Allegiant Theater and it was very kind of 486 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: this like small little backstage that they have, and it 487 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: was like immediately foreheads touching, you know, we're in the 488 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: corner just like talking to agent, just throwing up in 489 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: each other's mouth. And then she had this incredible set 490 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, got, she's good and then when 491 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: we were auditioning people, she read for Carmen and Scott 492 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: King sent it to me and he was like, wow, 493 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: she's like incredible. Yeah, and I was like, oh my god, 494 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: what and I said, get her on tape for him. 495 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: Haley ran, Now I have never laughed like that. And 496 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: I love that character so much because it was like 497 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: this first character I developed. Yeah, you know I initially 498 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: she was a character that I had where it's like 499 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: a girl who just got back from abroad, and then 500 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: I kind of used her for a bunch of different 501 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: things like that, and this kind of I think, like 502 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: bad out of Hell that arrives at college was so 503 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean, she writing that part is like a gay 504 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: man's stream and having someone like Hans come in, it's 505 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: just and you know what, the way she did it 506 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: is that she believed everything she said, and like, I 507 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: think that's why people have responded so well to it. 508 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: It's because you know, she came in and she was 509 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: you know, it's like what you're saying where something's just 510 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: inform the character. She was just like she is so loyal, 511 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: She's obsessed with Carmen, like she's she might even be 512 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: in love with her. And I'm like, I love this, 513 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: like this every she just found a reason why all 514 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: of it made sense to her and none of it 515 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: was what I think some people could read on the page. 516 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: And also why I think Adam DeMarco was so great. 517 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: It's he was like, it's not a bimbo, and she 518 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: was like, you know, this isn't a bimbo. It's an 519 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: kid who wants to be loved and seen hasn't been 520 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: seen in the right way. 521 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: And I just an absolute truth, like there's you can't 522 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: she can't be dishonest, which I know I think is 523 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 2: such an extraordinary quality. 524 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you really feel that the performance. So yeah, anyone 525 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: were to do with Hailey, Oh, she's fun. 526 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 2: To write she is, and knowing that I'm putting in 527 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: my my head, I'd love to seeing. 528 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: I'd love to seeing ye Oh, I would love that. 529 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: Be like your son's gay. Wait, yeah, you know, like 530 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: like are you thik like your son's gay? Yeah? Yeah, 531 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: like with her palm already? Yeah. Oh yeah. 532 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: What you've done with overcommisating is you the people that 533 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: you know, your friends, Yeah, people that you worked with 534 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: that you know within the circuits that the comedy circuit, 535 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: the dramas are in the show, and you brought them, 536 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: and you brought them and you know them, and you 537 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: bring them and you let them do their thing. Like 538 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: Marybeth is a great I loved working with her soul much. 539 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: It's so funny when we did those first the photos 540 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: of the family, anyone who I showed it to, they're like, 541 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: I kind of get it, Like they're like, I know 542 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: who got each Like feature, I know who's I was 543 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: so glad you got to do that. We did episode 544 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: seven with the parents and that you got to see 545 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: because that was I think such an amazing showcase of 546 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: why I have always responded to her comedy and think 547 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: she's so brilliant, and that performance that she gives at 548 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: the dinner table, and and even that really sad sequence 549 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 1: in the bathroom where she's kind of dressed herself up 550 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: and her mom compliments it and it feels good, but 551 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to show that it feels too good. 552 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: I just love her in that that episode was really 553 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: for her. It was like we wanted it to be 554 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: a showcase of I think this a great moment for Benny, 555 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: but it was so much more about her and the 556 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: parents and like finding like this family. You see, this 557 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: is the thing that was just what I love. 558 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 2: This is why I think you're doing what you need 559 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: to do is because you these characters have depth, they 560 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: have things, other things going on. You know, overcompisating, you're 561 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: covering up something. You understand that. And you've brought in 562 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: people that I think really can do that and can 563 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: groove in it. 564 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: And everybody has one. 565 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: She's just you know, there's you know, she's got this 566 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: in sadness and that I see that that she just 567 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: lets be there, you know, like even that moment when 568 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: we the house my son and she's like like, oh, hey, 569 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: how are you? And I was like, I want to 570 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: play it like, oh he does care, but he cares 571 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: about the son. 572 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: This is you know, sorry, the prodigal son. And she's returned. 573 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's left kind of there you are. 574 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's interesting too because I was so excited. I 575 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: feel like people really responded to that character so much too, 576 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: And that's what was so exciting. And I think also, 577 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, this idea of a coldness and that being 578 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: seen as such a bad like a bad thing especially 579 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: for women, and I feel like for her to play 580 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: that and and also kind of do that and it 581 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: be triumphant that by the end she does get to 582 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: return to more of like a coldness and not trying 583 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: to be what all these people want. I mean, that 584 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: was really exciting to me. Kind of being darker, I think, 585 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: and in moodier I think was so and that's what 586 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: I've always seen in her stand up too. When I 587 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: was doing stand up, I was like running around stage 588 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: like slapping my ass and throwing on wigs, and she 589 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: was just standing there with a mic and just like 590 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: so cold and. 591 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: She's kind of sharp, yes restraint, which I admire so 592 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 2: much because I'm not like that. 593 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: I have a what do you mean? Like what I'll 594 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: always work with friends. I'm doing everything with you. Sorry, 595 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: I just I think I grew up. I mean I 596 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: mine was. I grew up with Adam Sandler movies and 597 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: then watching like my Rudolph and Kristen wigg and Amy 598 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: Poehler and watching them all be in each other's projects. 599 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, this is who inspires me, and these 600 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: are like yeah, I'm like I times I feel like 601 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: I'm fan first for who do you? I mean? 602 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: Are people you watch you admire people like that inspire you? 603 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: And it sounds like, oh. 604 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, comedians, you know, definitely was there a moment when 605 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: you were like, this is this is me, this is 606 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: what I'm want to do, this is this is. 607 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: I do remember seeing Missus Doubtfire when I was really 608 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: young and Robin Williams and that and being like, wow, 609 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: I just felt so much emotion from him, and I 610 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: think he also carried such like a beautiful like everything 611 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: he did felt really emotional, but also just being able 612 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: to tap into the comedy and yeah, I just I 613 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: remember that as a kid like really sticking with me 614 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: and being like I would love to do something like 615 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: this like he just feels and all of his films 616 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: I think I really like followed them as a kid 617 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: and SNL. I mean I when I was in high school, 618 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: it was the Maya, Rudolph, Jami Polar, Tina Fey, Kristen Wiggs. 619 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: So I just got that to me. I was so 620 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: I was like electrified by that. Every Saturday I was 621 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: watching them, and so I think that really inspired me. 622 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I didn't say I was a 623 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: comedian until Mary Beth forced me to before the show 624 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: because I was just like, I don't know, I'm just 625 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: a guy, you're a comedian. No, and you're a gay guy. 626 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: Come on? 627 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: But it was so yeah. So I always loved film 628 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: and TV and they were always places where I felt 629 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: like very safe. And I think I told you, but 630 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: the first time I saw blue Velvet was in a 631 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: It was called like senior seminar. It was a class 632 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: I took in high school and that was shout out 633 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: Missus Simmons. We watched films for the first time and 634 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: wrote about them and kind of analyzed them. That was 635 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: where I was like, WHOA, I maybe I would want 636 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: to study this. And at the time I was still 637 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: in the closet, so performing wasn't really on the menu 638 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: really until I started to come out and. 639 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: You're saying you're like going up on the stage, you 640 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: would be like, oh. 641 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean me as Danny Zuko would. People would not 642 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: have any questions about yeah, oh okay, yeah we've we've 643 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: been new. 644 00:27:59,680 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 645 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: It would have been two seconds again. So it's like 646 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: called just two sports and occasionally, you know run People 647 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: would say I run like a girl, which I'd take 648 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: as a compliment. I love it. Listen, that's your ass idea? 649 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: Why And did I say why are you watching. 650 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, look at this, Yeah, look at my form. 651 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: Yeah what about you? What was your do you have 652 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: like a moment where you were like, oh, that's. 653 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: Kind of couple A couple actually, because I was more 654 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: high school, we you know, I did the play and 655 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: I did the musicals. Kind of everybody kind of did. 656 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: There was no stigma to do that. It was like 657 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: some of the cool guys, some of the cool guys, 658 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: the jocks, were actually in the plays, you know, in 659 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: the musicals because it was a cool thing to do. 660 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was like Washington there, you go 661 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: ahead of our time. 662 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: But I remember doing that and having a great time. 663 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: Then going to college and. 664 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: Going I gotta think about something serious. I gotta study, 665 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, I got what am I going to do? 666 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: You know? 667 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I'll take some communication courses, 668 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: which is like perfect. 669 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to do in communications, of course, I 670 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: gotta see that. Yeah. 671 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: I took public speaking and I was terrible. But I 672 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: also just took a drama I took a drama classes. 673 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: Well I just do an acting class, yeah. 674 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 675 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like I was like that was 676 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: pretty good. I a really enjoyed that. 677 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, shit, I'm kind of absolutely incredible. 678 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, like I said, I. 679 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, sorry, but I was like that. 680 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: I can't, I can't do this, you know what I mean. 681 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: But but I was like I was in college. It 682 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: was so unhappy. Yeah, and I went, I dropped out 683 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: my third quarter. I pledged beta. I was in the 684 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: Beta house, was a fraternity. I said, this isn't really 685 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: my vibe so much, but my dad was a Beta 686 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, I'll try to do this. 687 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: And I was like and I just and I took 688 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: I took a quarter off, I worked in a mill, 689 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: made some money, and that summer I went to summerstock 690 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: in North Carolina. Well, and that's when I was like, oh, 691 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: I was watching stuff and I got to actually be 692 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: a lead character in one of the plays for one 693 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 2: of the weeks that they did it. 694 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: It was kind of a big deal. 695 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, this is basically the director 696 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: is told me everything to do they do this, do this, 697 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: do this. I was like okay, and I had a 698 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: really great experience. I was like, wow, this is really 699 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: I feel like something is clicking. 700 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: But I still was like I don't know Yeah. 701 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: I got back to college and there was a program 702 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 2: there that they had that was for a repertory theater actors, 703 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: three years training to work you know, Shakespeare festivals, repertory theaters. 704 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: That was going to be it. 705 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: And I watched what they did. I saw I went 706 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: to a couple of plays, and I said that I 707 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: think I have to do this. 708 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: Wow. 709 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: And so I worked really hard to get accepted into 710 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: the program, which I was accepted, and then I went 711 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: for three years. I was terrible, just terrible, but I 712 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: was doing I know what I wanted to do. And 713 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: then I just I can't started working and it was like, 714 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: this is what I'm going to do. I had no 715 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: idea I was going to make a living. I didn't 716 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: even think about that. It was just like I really 717 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: loved this process, and so it was it was like 718 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: a series of doors opening that kind of made sense. 719 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes wanting to not want it. Yeah, I know, being 720 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: like that I can't love this that much. No, I'm like, 721 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: no one will. 722 00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: Something else has to hell. 723 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: Someone in the Pacific Northwest I want to be an 724 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: act Yeah, like they're gonna like I think a dentist 725 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: still like one recently asked my dad like has been okay. 726 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: They're like he's still trying to do the acting. It's 727 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: kind of rurle, you know. Yeah, they're just like that's 728 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: just a job, you know. So they're like and I 729 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: just that was in my head too. I studied like well, 730 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: I studied English, so I don't know what. I wasn't 731 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,239 Speaker 1: doing communications or anything, so I don't know like how 732 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: much more I was doing just like. 733 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: What are you what are you gonna do with communications? 734 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: Want to with that? I didn't even know. That's the 735 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: thing too where people are like was there a backup? 736 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I think at the time, I was 737 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: like I'd love to like help people with music videos, 738 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: like I said, ship like, like what is that? Good luck? Yeah? 739 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was sort of my yeah, just in the 740 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: process of my process, which was thank god, you know, 741 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: and it sort of why asked myself, why did I 742 00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: have such a hard time like accepting this clearly something 743 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: that I was better at than everything else. 744 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Still if I don't think I've really 745 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: done a play, but I'm dying too, I would one. 746 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: We should do one. 747 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: I've read somewhere that you were interested in doing that. 748 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: Maybe I think so I almost did one recently, but 749 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: then it just didn't work with the show. Yeah, but 750 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: I was really sad to not do it because I 751 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: was like, that would be I'm yeah. And then randomly, 752 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: when I was living in Brooklyn, there was a friend 753 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: who was doing a production of Alice in Wonderland and 754 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: they needed a mad Hatter and they always had like 755 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: someone common do the mad Hatter, and I almost it, 756 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: but then I couldn't do it. That would be fun. 757 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: That would have been fun. The mad everything. I mean, 758 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: I love that, you know, Yeah, that's my Will. I 759 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: could see he was you can't okay good, Like Willy Wonka. 760 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean all those kind of like old Johnny Depp 761 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: ones were really huge. I mean that Willy Wonka was 762 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,479 Speaker 1: like it was him for Halloween, Like that was brilliant. 763 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah with a little Bob anywhere, I'm Will. 764 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: You're working there Courtney, right. 765 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: Is that the one that has the courtney? 766 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. They changed their hair so much with the Widows, 767 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: you can't imagine. 768 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: That was a stroke of brilliance. 769 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: Whose I think was that? Yeah? The wades peak was me. 770 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: I just I really started to get it. I did 771 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: start to really enjoy making my face look more and 772 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: more like person. I just found that, like somehow my 773 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: face just felt like it lent itself in makeup. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 774 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: you know. So I was really close. I was like, 775 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: it just doesn't quite look like her. And then I 776 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: was like, all right, let me look at her one 777 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 1: more time and see what's different. Yeah, And then there 778 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: was a windows and I didn't have a wig, so 779 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: I took a that's what it needs, made it, and 780 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: I was like, we've got it. 781 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: You know. 782 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: It's funny because I was talking with and after I 783 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: really respect and we were talking about process, and I said, 784 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: how do you what where do you drop in to 785 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: the character? Is just what's the Ah, I got it, 786 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: I got it. 787 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: You know. 788 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: It could be those could be the shoes that you wear. 789 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: With the shoes and I've got you know, and from 790 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: there everything kind of grows. And he said the voice, 791 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: he said, and I said, that's that's interesting. And I said, 792 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: but I think in the process also the look I 793 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: remember doing mister c and yeah, twin Peaks of Return, 794 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: and I remember it's we're putting the character together kind 795 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: of a little by pieces and stuff. And then David 796 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: did like this kind of a dirt stipple on my face. Yeah, 797 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 2: and that I said, I got it. 798 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: It is so it sounds so like actory, but it 799 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: is that moment where you kind of go, oh, I 800 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: know it's connect like I got yeah, you're just like 801 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: it's one little thing where you're like, it's so, that's so. Yeah, 802 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: it really can be that. It gives you Yeah, but 803 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,959 Speaker 1: it gives you the just you know they're real. 804 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it gives you the okay the door opened. Yeah, 805 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: now I believe it, and now I believe it until 806 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: I can make it happen. 807 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: In the widow's peak, I. 808 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 3: Think, yeah, it's like widow's peaker. 809 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: Voice interesting and yeah, the voice is good. 810 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 2: I thought that was an interesting choice because I said, yeah, 811 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: that would that would work. 812 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: Where do you pitch? Where do you find it? Well, Benny, 813 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: it was so hard because it was like I am 814 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: in the closet and some people are believing it and 815 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: some people aren't. So what is that? How much do 816 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: we get to play within how deep the goes or 817 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: how masculine i'm you know, or how thick my neck is? 818 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: Like I found I also find posture to be like 819 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: really posture. And then this sounds kind of crap, but 820 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: sometimes I do it's helpful to think of how a 821 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: character would have sex. I know that's sorry, no no, no, 822 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it in front of you. 823 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: But it's like Seasons is going to be a lot 824 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: of this, so we got to get ready. But I 825 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: think it's just it's like helpful to think of them 826 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: or in a relationship. I think it's helpful to me 827 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: exactly how would they how would they be? 828 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: You know, that's really you know, I think I really 829 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: want to ask yourself those questions, like it's helpful this 830 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: or this or this where and because it doesn't gives 831 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: you a picture, gives you a feeling more importantly, and 832 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: out of that comes behavior. Yeah, movement, I mean how 833 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: you interact with somebody, how you might touch someone or 834 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: grab someone or just anything like that. 835 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: Totally. I had one character where I was like, he 836 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: would shower before sex. Yeah, and it's just like to me, 837 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I so get it, Like he's just 838 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: kind of hell. I've played characters like. 839 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 3: That, you know, where it's like he's just that. 840 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know how I kind of get 841 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 2: all that informs you know, it's just like a little Yeah, 842 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: informs everything, and I think that that's that's that's a 843 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: process or organic process. 844 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: But I think it is really really important. Yeah, I 845 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: got I would love to draw one on you. I'm 846 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: gonna do that. I'll bring that way I. 847 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 2: Could do because there was you remember the monsters. Oh yeah, okay, 848 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 2: So Eddie Munster, the little kid had a widow's peak. 849 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: And when I was, when I was younger, when I 850 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 2: had more hair, and when my hair was black, literally 851 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: so much black hair on the rest hanging in looks great. 852 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 2: But when I was but I looked back when I 853 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: was a kid, they knew her mind. Because my son 854 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: has just got his hair is hoped that you can't 855 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: even see the scout. It's like that God, And that's 856 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 2: what my hair was like. And it was jet black, 857 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 2: and it was like there was an Eddie Monster thing happening. 858 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good. And then I had a friend 859 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: of mine who. 860 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: Actually even looked like him, also black hair, until we 861 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: nicknamed him Eddie. I'm sure he loved that. 862 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 1: He was so excited to get that God means the world. 863 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 2: That's it for Eddie Monster, I said, But the widows speak. Yeah, 864 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: that's a killer that's a good that's a good thing. 865 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much that I miss being Courtney. I 866 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: wonder I haven't done her in a while. Yeah, I'm 867 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: here with I wonder if just yeah, there we go. 868 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: There's always do you have the one word that help you? Yes? Yeah, 869 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: like if I do watch Oh no, I know, I 870 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: don't know. 871 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: No. 872 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 873 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: And then when I did, I did a lawyer and 874 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 2: he was from Texas and the word ring was snow cone. Yeah, 875 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 2: snow cone and I'm locked in, You're locked in? 876 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: Yeah? So what was it it, Courtney? I think it 877 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: was just human like that to me was just coming 878 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: just right. And now I have it. Yeah, orange just 879 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: tears so kind weep. 880 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: I'm a big fig fan. 881 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well of course, yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm here. 882 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: How could you? 883 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? God, she was fun. 884 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: I do remember after though, It's like, you know, family 885 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: and friends around me they were like, oh I still 886 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: hear Courtney, and I'm like, oh yeah, sorry, I was 887 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: in front of the green screen. I'm losing it. 888 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: And she's to be a good sport about it, right, 889 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 2: I mean lovely. 890 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 891 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 2: I think it was Dana Carvey. 892 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: He said this. 893 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's attributed to him, but I said, 894 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 2: if you want to learn a voice, because he would 895 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: do bush, he said, you have to hear somebody else 896 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: do the voice, like maybe an extreme version, and then 897 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 2: you learn from them instead of learning from the person 898 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 2: that you're that you're gonna imitate. Yeah, somebody else has 899 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 2: to do it, and you're like, oh, I picked that up, 900 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's like, maybe you 901 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 2: listen to someone who does a really great version, you know, 902 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 2: and yeah, and go that way. So I don't know, 903 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: but you sounds like you went right. 904 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: I went to her because I just needed to. It 905 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: was also extreme, and we was good. I think I 906 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: went pretty extreme because hearing her talk, I was like, 907 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm you know, it's a I had one person gave 908 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: me like a note once and I was like, yeah, 909 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I am a man doing it, so just 910 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: like fuck ah, you know, I'm like, I think we're okay. 911 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: This feels like within the world, you know, I'm we're 912 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: bracketing here, like chill, Okay, we have a different we 913 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: have different chords. Yeah. I watched that and then one 914 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: I remember one thing that was Shawn Mendes was kind 915 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: of tricky for me at first, but I just watched 916 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: a few interviews, and sometimes it's just hearing how they 917 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: say one or two words, and him saying Levely was 918 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: really I was like, I know exactly how to get 919 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: my voice to sound like that, and that was like 920 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: the one. You know. It's just I don't know, but 921 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: I do think in hearing someone, I think maybe I 922 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: heard Chloe Feineman do Timothy Shallome ones like, oh, yeah 923 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: he's tough, he's really hard, but then he's way more 924 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: physical than yeah, you know. 925 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 2: It's more like, yeah, that's I can see you wanting 926 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 2: to do it. I want I haven't. 927 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: Studied Hi yet. I mean, such a. 928 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: Fantastic I'm like, but I like the extreme ones, you know, 929 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 2: the thewkan or the but we were playing we were 930 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 2: playing earlier with we should do that. 931 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: It's David Attenborough. 932 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 2: Oh today, Yeah we're talking with Benny Trauma. 933 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's and this is fantastic. See where I got 934 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: it from? But do you get that is. 935 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 2: In the why he perpetuates the ongoing. 936 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: Process of a man, a man at his peak. Truly, 937 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: I wish David would talk about me like that. 938 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: Fuck he will. 939 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,439 Speaker 1: That was delicious. I love that. That's really good. 940 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 2: He's but I need an extreme you know I have. 941 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: I have one for you. It's Daniel Craig in Night's Out. 942 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: There's been a I can't stop saying it. Saying it 943 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: to Mary Bedtune, she goes, oh, here's been wa But 944 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 1: he came into that movie, was such a hot take 945 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: on it. Oh it's an accent. Yeah, it's it's breath taking. Yeah. 946 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: I think about it a lot. I have to remember that. 947 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: I have to watch it again get a sense of him. Well, 948 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: we should be in one. It seems kind of fucked 949 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: up at this point. I think so too, But I 950 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: think that's the joy. It's like, yeah, because I thought 951 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: that too. With Parker Posey and White Lotus. The first episode, 952 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I don't know this accent, like, 953 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: and then by the middle I was like, it's just 954 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: like it's a stroke of genius. Yeah, this accent is 955 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: like it is such a choice in it, like and 956 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: it delivers. 957 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 2: It was me like watching Peter Dinklage in Game of Thrones, 958 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 2: like it's. 959 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: Not English necessarily, no, but what is it? But yeah? 960 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 3: But I was like, yeah, but go. 961 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: I not Yeah, great, Yeah, I love that We're going 962 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: to a break, so we'll see you. 963 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 2: We'll be back. Don't go away for this segment I 964 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 2: designed just for you. I've cribbed a bit from you 965 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 2: and Mary Beth's segment Perfect Ride, and this is called 966 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 2: can I give you a ride? 967 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: Question? And I wish I would be careful because drove here, 968 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: which is not I should be allowed. 969 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: All right, So you're good. I'm going to give you 970 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 2: these glasses these because I don't I don't want you 971 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: to get any bugs. 972 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: On your ones. 973 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: I do whoa, Okay, I'm gonna listen. 974 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lis. 975 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put some on too. 976 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: Does that look you think that great? That's the face 977 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: of Balencia. You guys get that. 978 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 3: No free ads believe that? 979 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: What do you talk about our shirts? 980 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 2: That this this is I wore this and you wore that. 981 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 2: And then there's something that's crazy that's called the family. 982 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: That's family in my head. 983 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: Now I can't see, but I can't ye, yes, but 984 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: I did. I'm gonna close my eyes now, okay, bi 985 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: color any color? Oh my god, I know it's a 986 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: very red pill blue pillar. 987 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: Yes, what's gonna look better with with us? 988 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: To me? I'm blue blue. So I'll go red, I'll 989 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: go read. 990 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna tell me if you I'm going to 991 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 2: tell you a few things I write for and you're 992 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 2: gonna tell me if you ye also ride. 993 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 1: You need crookies on those. This is what I need. 994 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 3: You knew that exactly that term. 995 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 2: I was in the yard showing uh, shawing up some 996 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 2: bamboo and the sweating, and they kept falling hate with 997 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 2: my head in my right, I'm gonna go with I 998 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 2: might have to take that for season two. 999 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 1: I was sawing bamboo, bamboo. 1000 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 2: I'm ready, I'm gardening in the backyard. 1001 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna write. 1002 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna ride, if you ride with me, whether it's okay, 1003 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,959 Speaker 2: you're ready, yeah, here we go to me. It's like, yeah, 1004 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 2: this is okay, good and we're kind of moving. Remember 1005 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 2: how you do with shots, like if you have the 1006 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 2: driving scenes? 1007 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: So the only book things I've written for myself. Oh, 1008 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really, I haven't done that, 1009 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: but I'm dying to do that. 1010 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 2: A driving scene. Yeah, Oh, let's do it. It's hard to yeah, 1011 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 2: because it's a good place for conversations. 1012 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: Like a parent in an uber is so explosive, you know, 1013 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 1: I feel that. Oh yeah, okay. 1014 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 2: I ride for wearing indoor shoes outdoors. 1015 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I absolutely. I slap on an UG and 1016 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: I ripped through. Yes, yeah, that a slipper little bear pod. 1017 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: If you're getting nasty, I think that's good. Yeah, that's 1018 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: the shoe of choice. I like the UG. I think 1019 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: your suggestion was right. 1020 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 2: Perfect fuzzy fuzzy inside has to be a slippery fuzzy inside. 1021 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: Would I then wear them into like a bed or 1022 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: put them on the couch? Probably not. 1023 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 2: No, you bring them inside, but you could wear them 1024 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 2: inside depending on what you walk through on the outside something. 1025 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 2: Did you just leave him at the door? 1026 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: I love leaving at the door. A little clog, deal 1027 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: with it. I ride for gardening, so I'm glad you do. 1028 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: I personally don't, but I love that you do. 1029 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 2: Wait, so you grew up in Boise, but there's no gardening. 1030 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 2: Well I just thought it was the thing you did 1031 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 2: in the Northwest. 1032 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: Like my mom does. Like my mom loves her garden, 1033 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: and but you leave her to it. Yeah yeah, I 1034 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: think I just plants see me come in and they're 1035 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: like get thirsty. Yeah, yes, okay, but I do. I 1036 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: love the thought of you out there, and I love 1037 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: going to someone's garden that they're really proud of. Good 1038 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 1: will have you o having little tomatoes, a little little 1039 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: blueberry why not? 1040 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 2: Yes, controversial take. 1041 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: But I ride for Steve Brady. Okay, sure, I think 1042 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: that's fantastic. From Sex and the City, that's what you're in. 1043 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: For a second, I thought, is that an athlete Steve Brady? 1044 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: One hundred percent I ride. I think he's fantastic. I 1045 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: think I recently, I mean I recently told Kristin that 1046 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: I thought. I mean he yeah, he's ten Okay, yeah, yeah, 1047 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 1: hey he's no tao no. 1048 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 2: But yes, I mean he's got really quiet ultimate ultimately, but. 1049 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's fantastic and he's so 1050 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, you guys on the road keep you of course, sorry, 1051 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: but to me, yeah, I I really did like them together. 1052 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 1: They were kind of a beautiful. 1053 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 2: They ride for being silly on social media, I mean, 1054 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 2: come on, I go, I don't. 1055 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,439 Speaker 1: I want to be really serious. You are social media. 1056 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 3: It was very moody. 1057 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: We're driving a little fast right now, son, a little bit, 1058 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,479 Speaker 2: because you're. 1059 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: Getting See this is why I'm not allowed to drive cars. 1060 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: This is silly on social yeah, I and yours is 1061 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: you inspire me. Oh that's nice to hear things. I 1062 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: get sometimes scared of TikTok because I feel like I 1063 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: didn't come up on it. So sometimes I have my 1064 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: I have a team here there is. They're absolutely genius 1065 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: and they helped exactly. 1066 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 3: They help. 1067 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: They're my GUIDs tears Okay, I ride for kale. 1068 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah right, I mean you're healthy Kales. 1069 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 3: Sometimes when I'm eating it, it does. 1070 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: I look up after two hours and I think I'm 1071 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: still eating this. 1072 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 2: But I do like because you're not full, Kale doesn't 1073 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 2: fill you up. 1074 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 3: It does. 1075 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: I think it does make me bloated, but it does, guess, yeah, 1076 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: of course, but I do. I love Kale. Kale's great. 1077 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: I put it smoothie. 1078 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 2: I like a little bit of like a little I 1079 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 2: like a salt oil, a little bit of honey, oh 1080 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 2: ship and tiny bit of boom and a cigarette and 1081 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 2: well you know what, I. 1082 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 3: Love them, right, Kale Caesar. 1083 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 2: Well, Kale is my nickname from David. Oh yeah, I 1084 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 2: love Yeah, he called me Kale. It wasn't and he 1085 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 2: wasn't the one who who thought of it originally. 1086 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: Well he thought of. 1087 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 2: The calling me Kale but it was the late producer 1088 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 2: Dino Dyla Renis who who couldn't pronounce Kyle Kale and 1089 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 2: David loved that. That's it from now on, I'm Kale. 1090 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 1: We're driving off a cliff right now. 1091 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 2: Definitely, we've driven off the cliff. We're fine moment. 1092 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1093 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 2: I ride for the nerd emoji. 1094 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 1: Oh is that the little teeth in the glasses? Yeah? 1095 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 1: So cute. Love. I don't know if I've ever used it, 1096 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: but I I love receiving it. I mean, how cute. 1097 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I because my nerd emoji or them 1098 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 2: I go with, I mean a thumbs up a lot, 1099 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 2: hark a lot. I like the emoji with the two 1100 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 2: the kind of the ice kind of squinting clothes and smiling. Oh. 1101 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 2: I like that, Like, oh god, that was maybe that 1102 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: was too much. 1103 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: I like the one where it's a he's kind of like. 1104 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, laughing behind. I feel like that a lot. 1105 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, life is so embarrassed and said that. 1106 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,919 Speaker 3: Yeah cute. 1107 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 2: Here what the FUCKA Oh here's a good one. 1108 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: I ride for Chow Chow's the dog read. Oh yeah, 1109 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: what you thought about that? 1110 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 2: H I love Chow. 1111 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 3: I love chow chows. 1112 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to shoot with the 1113 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: chow chow again. I think chow chouse prefer camera diplomatic, 1114 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: but I think they're they're beautiful. Dog Scott King, that 1115 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: wonderful showerunner over compensating. Yeah, one, and he's such a king. 1116 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: So I love I love Chachaus, butch puppies that's another story, 1117 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: you know, maybe off camera? Yeah, off camera, very good, 1118 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: very good. I ride for being a podcast host. Yeah, 1119 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: because you imagine, I go die. I'm so glad you 1120 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: are one now. I'm having so much fun. I know 1121 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: you are. 1122 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 2: I'm kind say I didn't really getting into it. I 1123 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I'm actually really enjoying this 1124 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 2: because I get to learn, and yeah, I am curious 1125 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 2: and I get to learn and ask questions, and I 1126 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 2: think that's it. 1127 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: D how far have we coked up? Well, we know 1128 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: what's coming up for you. Yeah. 1129 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going into the writer's room right now, and 1130 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 2: you're going to write beautiful stuff. 1131 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm going into a k hole for a bit and 1132 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: then all once I climb back out, I've got to 1133 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: have some gifts for you. 1134 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. Me too, I'm always excited to be here. 1135 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 1: But I know you now. Yeah, I just bother you whenever. 1136 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 2: You can bother me whenever except for yes, never mind. 1137 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 2: But it's been a real pleasure. It's been real pleasure. 1138 00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: That'll talk to you forever. 1139 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 2: Okay, everybody else, bless your heart. I love you too. 1140 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 2: We're in for another season. Thanks for coming on. That's 1141 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 2: our show. We uh and we're sticking to it. Did 1142 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 2: we discover what are we even doing? I don't know 1143 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 2: if we did, but we had a good time doing it. 1144 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: What are we doing? What are we even doing? We're family, 1145 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: We're doing this. It's working, We're creating. Whatever we're doing, 1146 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: we're having fun. We're having fun. There you go. 1147 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 2: What Are We Even Doing is a production of iHeartMedia 1148 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 2: and the Elvis Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle 1149 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,439 Speaker 2: McLachlin and created and produced by Full Picture Productions Yay, 1150 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 2: featuring music by Yata and artwork by Danica Robinson. For 1151 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 2: more information about the podcast, please visit our Instagram and 1152 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 2: TikTok at wa w ed with Kyle. Please rate, review, 1153 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 2: and subscribe to What Are We Even Doing? On Apple, Spotify, YouTube, 1154 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 2: or anywhere you get your podcasts, exclamation points,