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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody. Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky,

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Speaker 2: Rhett back with you, and we've got a fun one today.

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Speaker 2: We are going to get into this Thursday night football matchup.

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Speaker 2: Give a little preview on that one, looking forward to

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Speaker 2: that that's coming up in just a few moments. But

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Speaker 2: I say we jump right in here because I want

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Speaker 2: to focus on the defensive side of the ball. And

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a mystery that you've seen the

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Speaker 2: Michigan Wolverines take over the Big Ten and hasn't just

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Speaker 2: been because of Jim Harbaugh and his coaching. It's also

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Speaker 2: been because of the players that they've gone out recruited

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Speaker 2: and developed and specifically on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 2: and we're seeing that translate to the next level. Look,

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Speaker 2: this is not just because our producer Drew is a

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Speaker 2: Michigan guy. This was actually my idea. So I'll I'll

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Speaker 2: take the bullets on this one from my Big Ten

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Speaker 2: co host here with Rhett, who's already Bucky's already frustrated.

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Speaker 2: You can already see just rolling his eyes, shaking his head. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I was thinking about. I always think about factories,

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Speaker 2: right the school's produced certain positions. We've talked about it

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Speaker 2: with the LSU and Ohio state wide receivers. The job

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Speaker 2: I think one of the underrated factories right now is

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Speaker 2: edge rushers at the University of Michigan. You can see

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Speaker 2: it right there in front of us. Fourteen and a

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Speaker 2: college bought Michigan in the NFL. That's the most of

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Speaker 2: So it is a list of guys. I mean about

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Speaker 2: getting after a little bit, Rhett. Any of those guys

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Speaker 2: follow them up there.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things, by the way, do you remember

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Speaker 1: You know what, this is kind of interesting because I

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Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like we need to get some Ohio

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Speaker 1: because we used to think about Ohio State in this way, right,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I don't think it's a coincidence that tit of

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Speaker 4: We've talked about it. This team is a sneaky title contender.

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Speaker 4: Is jimfif calling it like he's calling it? This team

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And if Deshaun Watson gives us more of what

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Speaker 2: This is this is a juicy one. It's a divisional matchup.

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Speaker 2: can get to. But anyways, I didn't get your cake

434
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Speaker 2: on that Buck and Rhett, so I'll listen to see

435
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Speaker 2: what you gotta say.

436
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,800
Speaker 4: Look, this is what's going to happen when you were

437
00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,640
Speaker 4: a team like Colorado, who has been very I wont

438
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,439
Speaker 4: say in your face, but they've kind of given us

439
00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,040
Speaker 4: all access to their program. So we've heard everything behind

440
00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,679
Speaker 4: the scenes in front of the camera about Colorado, we

441
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,800
Speaker 4: coming and all that other stuff, and so Prime is

442
00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,879
Speaker 4: always going to get a lot of attention, and sometimes

443
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,640
Speaker 4: that brings about not some jealousy, but maybe some envy

444
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 4: from other programs who also would like to have that

445
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 4: light shed on their programs.

446
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Speaker 2: What you saw was, I would say, a brilliant.

447
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,199
Speaker 4: Motivational tactic by Dan lanning for a team that was

448
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,359
Speaker 4: a three or four touchdown favorite to make them feel

449
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,680
Speaker 4: like they've been disrespected by another team. And so you're

450
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,679
Speaker 4: always looking for something to kind of set the fire

451
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 4: to spark your team. He did a great job of

452
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 4: playing to the cameras in pregame but also kind of

453
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,680
Speaker 4: hitting that switch for his team. And I will say

454
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,440
Speaker 4: the bigger part was how he carried that anger, that

455
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,440
Speaker 4: intensity to the field where they're going for it on

456
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 4: fourth and forever, fake punts, kind of getting it going.

457
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,239
Speaker 4: So I understand it, and everyone who supports Brian, who

458
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 4: doesn't like Brump, this is where we are.

459
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Speaker 2: This is college football.

460
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,439
Speaker 4: Is the WWE taking over college football. I like this

461
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,679
Speaker 4: because rather than having this fake stuff like we like everybody, No,

462
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 4: it should be contentious.

463
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 2: It's a game my team versus your team. Let's get

464
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Speaker 2: after it.

465
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Speaker 3: I like it.

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this feels like to me, it's unfortunate it's the

467
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 2: last year the PAC twelve, but it feels like the

468
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 2: South and the Southern style of college football. If you

469
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 2: think about the SEC, think about going back to old school,

470
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 2: you know, Miami Florida State out you know in the

471
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Speaker 2: a CC. This is what that or the Big East.

472
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Speaker 2: I guess what it would have been way back in

473
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Speaker 2: the day. But this is a this is a Southern

474
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 2: brand of football where they take it seriously. Think about

475
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher calling out Nick Saban. Think about all this

476
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: stuff we've seen over the years. You saw it with

477
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Speaker 2: Ed Ordron, We've seen it with Lane Kiffin. Like there's

478
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Speaker 2: all these personal rivalries and wars. I think even last year, gosh,

479
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Speaker 2: who was it we had, oh man, well, Shane Biemer

480
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Speaker 2: I think put on the sunglasses in the in uh

481
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Speaker 2: and did all oh yeah who they were playing South

482
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Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, I think it's thank you, thank you.

483
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 2: So they've always this has always taking place in the South,

484
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 2: in the West Coast, has just been this nice, let's

485
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 2: play nice with each other. And all of a sudden,

486
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 2: Deon brought some swagger. Dan Lanning coming from Georgia. This

487
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: is this is how they talk. This is how they

488
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 2: talk about conference. Everything is personal, Everything is a war,

489
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 2: and you're trying to go out there and just you know,

490
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Speaker 2: beat people up fairly within the lines and talk about

491
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Speaker 2: it while you do it. That's why it's so fun

492
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Speaker 2: to see it finally come this way right. Unfortunately, it's

493
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 2: like yeah, it's we finally get to see it, and

494
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 2: then the whole conference goes away.

495
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Speaker 1: Give me more of it, okay, like this is this

496
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 1: is amazing theater, Like come on, like this is why

497
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: we love college football, like bringing this stuff back and

498
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: getting away from the boring, like you're great, We're great.

499
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, tell us how you really feel.

500
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Speaker 1: And then you know, going out there and telling your

501
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Speaker 1: team that I thought that was great and it was

502
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Speaker 1: I thought it was good that you retraced Dan Lanning

503
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Speaker 1: to Georgia because you remember, I was sitting up at

504
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Speaker 1: the very top level and the auxiliary media section at

505
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: SOFI Stadium when Kirby Smart got on the program, I

506
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 1: got on the podium after winning a second straight national

507
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: title and goes.

508
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Speaker 2: Nobody thought we could do it. I was like, what.

509
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: One to one thought you were going to do it?

510
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Speaker 3: It doesn't.

511
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Speaker 1: The point is, it does not matter what the external

512
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: thought and perception is. It's how you communicate that message

513
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: to your team the way you want them to play.

514
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Dan Lanning did and I hope

515
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: he does it every week. And that's for all the

516
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: stuff on the field with the decision makings, you know,

517
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: decision makes.

518
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Speaker 3: Remember the Titans leave no doubt, run it up.

519
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: Like David, just go get after it, man, Like that's

520
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: I love a little bit of you know uneasiness, you

521
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: know when a college football game ends, and like in

522
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Speaker 1: the lead up to the game, like just kind of

523
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 1: kind of brings the tension.

524
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Speaker 3: I'm all for it here.

525
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah to me, guys, I guess I should. I don't

526
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Speaker 2: want to leave out the Midwest because if you think

527
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Speaker 2: of Ohio State Michigan, that's that's an old testy over

528
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 2: the years. Right, What was that? Who was it? I live,

529
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: that's our producer and get in my ear? Was it? What?

530
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Speaker 1: He was it? What?

531
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Speaker 3: He?

532
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 2: Hayes only asked him, why did you go for two?

533
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 2: And he said because they wouldn't let me go for three.

534
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Speaker 2: I can't remember. Yes, yeah, got into it. By the way,

535
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Speaker 2: By the way, quick quick, quick on that one, buck.

536
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Speaker 2: Did you were you watching that? Did you get a

537
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Speaker 2: chance to see, uh the Ohio State ending there against

538
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 2: Notre Dame when Notre Dame had ten off two plays

539
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: in a row.

540
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Speaker 4: Look, man, you talk about you talk you talk about

541
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 4: like just kind of being blown away, and we've had

542
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 4: Marcus Freeman on the show, and I look, I love him,

543
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 4: I love what they're doing at Notre Dame. But to me,

544
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 4: the last three minutes they mismanaged. How you coach that game.

545
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 4: We can talk about what they had on offense and

546
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 4: how they could have forced Ohio State to burn up

547
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 4: the timeouts, but then even in that situation, game is

548
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 4: on the line, and I know you short one and

549
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 4: you don't want to burn a timeout and have the

550
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Speaker 4: penalty and do those things.

551
00:23:59,040 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: But it's a half yard.

552
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Speaker 4: It's like this, much like that, much like you give

553
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 4: them that put eleven on the field and see if

554
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 4: you can stop them. Just don't give them a super

555
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 4: advantage like that. Eleven on ten. That's one that's hard,

556
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 4: and that'd be hard for that fan base to forget

557
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 4: if it goes sour for Notre Dame later in the season.

558
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, to me, the last thing I'll kind

559
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: of button it up on that one is and I

560
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: don't remember Marcus Freeman actually calling the defense. I was

561
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Speaker 2: thinking about this the other day. I was talking about

562
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: this with someone the other day about in the NFL,

563
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: the challenge of calling the defense and then being the

564
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Speaker 2: head coach because you're trying to think two plays ahead

565
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 2: and then some of the bigger picture stuff in terms

566
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Speaker 2: of timeouts, clock manage. But I know you have people

567
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: in your ear, but it's different. It's got to be

568
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: a lot less stressful buck as a head coach, and

569
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Speaker 2: you do it. I mean, you're on the high school level.

570
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Speaker 2: The difference between being able to just be the head

571
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Speaker 2: coach versus have to be thinking as a play caller

572
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: offense or defense. I feel like this stuff has a

573
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: chance to pop up more often. It does have a

574
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: chance to pop up.

575
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Speaker 4: I think Al Golden is calling the defense and Marcus

576
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 4: is around it. But yeah, look, I man, you're still

577
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 4: always learning as a head coach, and Marcus is learning

578
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 4: real time. It's unfortunate he's learning on maybe arguably the

579
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 4: biggest brand that you can do it on in college football,

580
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 4: and so those egregious mistakes are spotlighted more. He's done

581
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 4: a really good job because I would say this, I

582
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 4: thought they were in control of the game for most

583
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Speaker 4: of the game in terms of how they played it.

584
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Speaker 2: It's just unfortunate that they didn't finish it.

585
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Speaker 4: And they didn't finish it, I would say maybe due

586
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 4: to some coaching full poles that cost him.

587
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: Ryan David was hot after the game too. He let

588
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: Lou Holtz. Lou Holtz get under skin a little, but

589
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: he was fired up on that one.

590
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Speaker 3: But Ohio, so hiovers everybody, oh hioversus everybody.

591
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I didn't. I'm be honest with you,

592
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Speaker 2: that's all I didn't. I didn't know that. I didn't

593
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: know it was Ohio versus the world all the time.

594
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Speaker 2: I didn't know. I needed somebody to tell me that.

595
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't. I didn't know.

596
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 4: I thought it was always Detroit. I thought that's a

597
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 4: that's in Michion. I thought it was Detroit versus everyone.

598
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 4: I didn't know it was just Ohio, the whole state.

599
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,239
Speaker 2: Now clearly, clearly you did not do your homework. It's

600
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Speaker 2: Ohio versus the entire world of the universe, the entire

601
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: universe against Ohio. All right, this is a fun one today, guys.

602
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: We had a lot to get into. I Phil covered

603
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: a lot of ground. We've got more coming your way

604
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: all week here with the Fellas, so be on the

605
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: lookout for that. In the meantime, appreciate it. We'll see

606
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: you next time. I'll move the sticks