1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: This is the Talking Cowboys Break, streaming live on Dallas 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys out Welcome 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: everybody to in a special edition of Talking Cowboys Break 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: in the swbc's Mortgage Studio after the bye weekend. Joined 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: today by myself, Taylor Stern, Brian brought us, Dave Hellman, 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: and of course Nate Newton. So, how is everyone doing? 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Feeling rested after that bye weekend? Feeling frustrated? Where are 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: you at? It's a crazy NFL. Yeah, this is crazy. 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: That's why you're going with this. You don't want to 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: tell me what you did over the weekend. Yeah, I'm 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: just you know, you just watch tape of Navarro Bowman 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: all day on Sunday pretty much. Yeah. Yeah, you're feeling good. Nate. 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling real, real good. 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: I just knowing what we gotta do and hoping the 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: coaches found some answers, you know, to translate to these 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: players what they need to do to get better to 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: win some games. I just want to say, I didn't 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: think about this team one time from like Thursday night 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: until an hour ago, and it was awesome. But I'm 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: ready to go now I'm feeling good. That's funny. You 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: would admit that it is your job. It is my job. 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: And when I get like a three day break from 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: it for one of like two times all year, I 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: take advantage of it. You'll be able to be real 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: good for this show. Then. Oh, I'm so ready to go. 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: He's prepared, ready, ready to go. Yeah, you didn't think 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys when you heard that all of a sudden, 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: Navarro Bowman was an unexpected free agent in the NFL 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: linebacker when the Cowboys need a little bit of help 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: right there. I think that technically happened before we left 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: for the bye week. So I'm Saturday. We started hearing that, 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: did we Well? Whatever, I got my ear to the ground. 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm good. You're on Twitter. I'm always on Twitter. He's 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: always on Twitter, so he's always thinking about the team. 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: He's just trying to act like he's miss I'm trying 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: to act tough. Right now, Navarro Bowman, we can talk 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: about him because he is a free agent in the league, 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: and he is a guy that's been very well known 39 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys. Played with Sean Lee at Penn State. 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Both drafted in the same year Obviously Sean Lee ended 41 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: up here and Navar has been at this forty nine ers. 42 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: So what do you guys think of him on the market. 43 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: It should think take on him Brown, I know you've 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: seen something. Yeah, I know, I watched him. I just 45 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: got done. Watched him again against the because now the 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: forty nine ers being an opponent watching him against the Colts. 47 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: Doesn't run as well as he once did. I think 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: the Achilles the knee has kind of robbed him of 49 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: that ability. Still a very good point of attack player. 50 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: Still one of those guys that you know, if you 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: talked about, hey, I could see the fit because the 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys have really really struggled against the run. He plays 53 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Mike backer. That's kind of where the Cowboys, you know, 54 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: have a little bit of some strength if you want 55 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: to call it with Hitchens, say what you want about Smith, 56 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: but yeah, that's you know it would be. It would 57 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: be as a fit as a rotational player. I don't 58 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: know how much you would want him to play in 59 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: space anymore with coverage, because I think there were some 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: times where I watched him get taken advantage of that way. 61 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: But when the ball's come in his direction, he's gonna 62 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: make the tackle, He's gonna be physical doing it, and 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: it's made that type of a player. I see why 64 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: that they're interested in bringing him in at least kicking 65 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: the tires on that he's a two down player. Now. 66 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: I think he still played three for the forty nine ers, 67 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: but I think that he's a better zone player than 68 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: he is a man player. Can you outline, and you know, 69 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: first of all, let be let's be real for a sac. 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Usually when these types of things happen, you just kind 71 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: of roll your eyes and say no and move on, right, 72 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: And we're not doing that here because I don't I 73 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: think everybody would agree that this wouldn't be a terrible idea. No, 74 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: it's not a terrible idea. So with that in mind, 75 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: can you outline a more specific plan for how you 76 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: would play your linebackers if he was on this team, 77 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: you would have to think about playing He could be 78 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: your mic linebackers strongly would be your will and then 79 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: you can rotate. You could probably rotate Hitchens over at 80 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: the SAM is what you would probably do, and have 81 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: him also kind of be your catch all yeah, catch 82 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: all player. Yeah, And if you go to and if 83 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: you go to the if you go to nickel stuff 84 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: then or dime you just take you take Bowman off 85 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: the field and put Hitchens at that spot and let 86 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: him be the covered guy with Lee. So that's how 87 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: I would play it. So but this this team needs 88 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: a run stop, but he need a boost because he 89 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: can do that. Yeah, because he'll get off blocks, he'll 90 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: be fisible with his hands Sean Lee. You know, I 91 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: understand that people think, hey, we would have won a game, 92 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: we won one of these games if Sean Lee was there. 93 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: But in this case, the more the merria, yeah, the 94 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: more mean because you we get we average and given 95 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: up one hundred and fifty yards Russian shan A. Lee 96 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: can't make every tackle. Yeah, I don't disagree and that, 97 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: And like I said, I think this is a pretty 98 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: good idea and something that I'd be interested in the 99 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys pursuing a little bit harder than we typically see 100 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: in these types of situations. If could get somebody that 101 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: could play the run, well, you need that. I get 102 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: my two concerns. It sounds so basically it sounds like 103 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: you would get a similar, if maybe slightly better level 104 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: of production with Bowman and Lee being your primary two linebackers. 105 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: Than Hitchens and Lee. I think that Hitchens, to me 106 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: at the mic linebacker spot is not as physical. Yeah, 107 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: but he runs better. But you're the space. You're still 108 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: probably looking at a solution where you're going to platoon 109 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: this thing, just in the sense that Hitchens still has 110 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: a role to play. Bowman is not. He's not that 111 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: top five linebacker that he was maybe even three or four. 112 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: You this might even cause you to have to sit Smith, 113 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: which for the for you know, and I as an 114 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: inactive player, I can hear the fans screaming at me 115 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,119 Speaker 1: from here that that's not a bad thing because Jalen 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: Smith has struggled with the amount, that's sure plate. But 117 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: I wonder for them, For the Cowboys, I wonder if 118 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: the addition of Bowman is enough to offset everything that 119 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: they've got going on already, assuming everyone's healthy, which I 120 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: know is not a guarantee. And on top of that, 121 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: ego plays a factor in these things too, And I 122 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: wonder if Bowman is willing to admit that that's the 123 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: type of situation he's going to be in. You know, 124 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: maybe he sees himself as an every down stud that 125 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: can still be the centerpiece of a defense. I think 126 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: when you get released, all bets are off. I think 127 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: you're just looking for a home. Now you're just trying. Yeah, 128 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: you're looking for a place to Okay, where can I 129 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: finish this thing out? You know? I mean, who's who's 130 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: the best fit for me to have some success? Yeah? 131 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: You know when when you went into when you went 132 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: into as a coach of a fan, or how when 133 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: you went into this break? Uh, you know, And I'm 134 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: just I'm just old school. How what was you thinking? Okay, 135 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: we we we even need a run stopping line defensive lineman. 136 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: All we need a lineback or somebody to help. You know, 137 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: no game to a two yard game, so you can 138 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: be looking in it second and seven full of change. 139 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: Yeah you see what I'm saying. So now I don't 140 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: know how good this guy is, and I'm just going 141 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: by what brought us. Says he'll brought us, say he'll 142 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: first and second down backer. We we need a first 143 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: and second down back up because we've we've been getting gashed. 144 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: You know. So I hear what you guys are all saying, 145 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: but technically cleared up for the fans because it's not 146 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: as easy as though. Okay, we need him he's going 147 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 1: on visits. He's gonna go talk to some other teams. 148 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: I think could be done by Wednesday, That's what I'm hearing. 149 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: So he'll so that's usually around that time. Fan. So 150 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: then from there, how does you know? Technically, since he's 151 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: a free agent, you don't need to worry about any 152 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: trade or anything like that. So bringing him in, how 153 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: does that? He's a vested veteran. So San Francisco's gonna 154 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: have to pay him all year long, no matter what. No, 155 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: he could, he could. If he doesn't sign anywhere, he 156 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: can apply for his salary. Okay, but you know, if 157 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: he goes, If he goes, he's at a six million 158 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: dollar player. Ben he's and he's halfway where we'll not 159 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: halfway through, but the pro ration and so many games. 160 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: They know the forty nine ers, the forty nine ers 161 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: are on the hook for the money they paid him. 162 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: You can negotiate a different deal for him. You don't 163 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: have to pay anything. I mean, excuse me, Yeah, you 164 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: can negotiate a new deal with that. Okay. Instead instead 165 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: of paying him six million dollars like the forty nine ers, 166 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna pay him for the last eleven weeks. You 167 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: can pay him three million, four million dollars, like you 168 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: guys said, kind of looking for a home, looking for 169 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: a job at this point. But it's gonna have some 170 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: leverage and still probably a good enough player that he 171 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: can command. You know, he's going to sign for better 172 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: than league minimum. Yeah, some teams won't don't have the 173 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: cap space to make a deal like this. Dallas would 174 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: have the money to make a deal like this, So 175 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: that in itself gives you an opportunity. I know, talking 176 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: some guys this weekend, they're interested. You know, it's just 177 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: a matter of you're talking about a veteran player. Oakland's involved. 178 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: He lives in the Bay Area. Do you want to 179 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: pick up I don't know, if he has wife and 180 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: kids and stuff. Do you pick them all up and say, hey, listen, 181 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: we're going to Dallas for eleven weeks, or do you 182 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: just leave everybody at home? So I mean the fact 183 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: that it's a that the Oakland is interested, that that 184 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: makes it as a veteran player, that would make it 185 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: very inviting for me. If I that that would be 186 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: my selling point. If I was the Raiders, I'm like, hey, listen, 187 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: you you know you're right by the basically, don't have 188 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: to change. You don't have to change, you don't have 189 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: to leave your home. You know, just go a different way. 190 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: You got to go to Alameda now instead of Santa Clara. 191 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: If he if he's good enough to help the scene, 192 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: and uh, the money's right, you know, don't hesitate. I'm 193 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: want to I'm about a youth movement. But evidently the 194 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: Cowboy isn't not about a youth movement. So let's get 195 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: this veteran in here that making help us, because you're 196 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: either gonna sell out. And what I mean by that 197 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: is braink putting Neil on the roster, put Ash on 198 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: the roster, didn't put term around and put uh get 199 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: get uh. You know, there's a child and I'm talking 200 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: going on a youth movement, get charts and put him 201 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: out there and let you know, let's go, let's set out. 202 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: But it seemed like they don't want to set out. 203 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: So this guy should be looked at in a serious manner, 204 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: not just want something to talk about. And you know, typically, 205 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: like I said, typically when this happens, you know, we 206 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,599 Speaker 1: inquire and the front office is kind of like and no, 207 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: we like what we got Um, but there's a little 208 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: something more to this, and yeah, I still I would 209 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: still probably bet against it happening. If it Yeah, but 210 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: brother might not be the Cowboys doing, might be somebody 211 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: else stepping up in say yeah, absolutely again, I gave 212 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: the Oakland If Oakland wasn't involved with this, I would 213 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: give you a shot just on the fact that that 214 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: the home, the hometown and not having to pick up 215 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: your life. Sure, it's just going to a different facility, 216 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: but you're in the same area. Yeah, means more to him. Yeah, 217 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: he's trying to have ale nitty lion reunion here, Brian, 218 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: don't worry about in state is ranked number two in 219 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: the college football rankings right now. Yeah, I'm not going 220 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: to discount that. I'm kidding I'm doing. I think I 221 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: think you're giving a valid point. And the Raiders, you know, 222 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: a team that he's very familiar with. Obviously, sure Bay 223 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: Area right what they could say to him because okay, 224 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: so you say, decision, Raiders are really in the same 225 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: boat as the Cowboys, if you want to be honest, 226 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: Very true, very true. Both teams thought of very highly initially. 227 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: Now they're looking the Raiders are two and four, bad 228 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: loss against the Chargers yesterday. Offense hasn't clicked. The offense 229 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: hasn't click. Yeah, you mean you've had injuries, You've had 230 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: different various problems there. Yeah, we'll see. I think it's 231 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: far more, like I said for the third time, I 232 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: think it's far more likely to happen than this typically is. 233 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, usually when a guy like this mid season 234 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: gets dropped and everyone's tweeting, go to the Cowboys for instance, 235 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: for instance, Martavis Bryan, I no, I don't see that 236 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: at all. People want, you know, he apparently wants a 237 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: trade from Pittsburgh. He doesn't feel like he's that involved 238 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: in their offense. I know there's a lot of there's 239 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: a lot of support for him coming here. I don't 240 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: see that. Well, they were talking about all these backs 241 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: this weekend too. Was another thing that everybody was mentioning. 242 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: Carlos Hide was on the trade market and a bunch 243 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: of people were telling me on Twitter Saturday, They're going, oh, 244 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna trade for Carlos Hide. I'm like, okay, let 245 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: me just throw it out there, let me just ask somebody, 246 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: and I got this. Are you eff and kidding me? Yeah? See, 247 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: that's when that's when I you know, I asked that question, 248 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: and when I get that are you eff and kidding me? Answer? 249 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: Then I then I then I it makes me not 250 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: want to ask anybody anymore, right, because again, it's just 251 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: is when you get rumored speculation. Now I asked about 252 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: this one, and exactly what we've just been talking about, 253 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: the last six to seven minutes. It's gonna be about money, 254 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be about rotation, it's gonna be about fit. Well, 255 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: that's I think you can do yourself a lot of 256 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: favors as a fan if you just try to think 257 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: about this first. I mean, okay, naval bowman, you don't 258 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: have to give up any assets to get it right. 259 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: You're not talking about a trade, you're not talking about 260 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: taking on a contract. And then you look around linebackers 261 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: an issue for this team. You've got injuries, you've got 262 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: tackling this issue, questionable depth, and you've got questionable performance. 263 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: You know, no, it ain't it ain't it ain't questionable. 264 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: See see at whide receive them. You know, I'm making 265 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: understand that dads may click, I may kinderstand that uh 266 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: will may not drop a valuable pass. I can see that. 267 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: So Brian, Uh, I can see the other situation. You know, 268 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: we got capable running backs, but right as of right now, 269 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: you're given up over one hundred and fifty yards rushing. Yeah, 270 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: oh man, you do what you can to get him in. 271 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: If you can't, then you saw the youth movement. Yeah. 272 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: And well, and the other thing I was gonna say, 273 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: the resources have been allocated on receiver and running back, 274 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: whether you like it or not. They have done things 275 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: to address those positions. They have money invested, particularly at 276 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver. They have a lot of money invested. I 277 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: would argue they invested a lot more in a linebacker 278 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: named Jalen Smith. I mean they went after him in 279 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: the second that's I mean, that's totally fair, good play. 280 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: That is a fantastic They were kind of banking on 281 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: him being the Luke Keikley Shawn Lee of this team. Yeah, 282 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: but one percent, valide I got it. But they couldn't 283 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: have seen they you know, and and I don't. One 284 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: thing I hate to do is go against management. Yeah, 285 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: but if you watched the film, you couldn't have thought 286 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: that foot his football season. He had to play. Yeah, 287 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: you couldn't have Yeah, he had to play. But That's 288 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He was forced in something that was 289 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Wasn't it fair to him? Yeah? It really wasn't my 290 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: I got and again my other rebuttal to that would 291 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: be okay Jalen for sure. Anthony Hitchins is in a 292 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: contract year. Justin Durant is a guy that you brought 293 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: in for no money on the on the quick. Yeah, 294 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: for debt, for debt. Damian Wilson. I know the charges 295 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: were dropped against him, but again he's closer to the 296 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: end of his rookie deal in the beginning, and you 297 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: thought maybe you wouldn't even have him for a big 298 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: chunk of this season or next season. So I'm you 299 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: know what I What I meant by that is you're 300 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: not locked into some of these guys the way that 301 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: you're locked into debt Terrence Beasley Switzer. I mean, that's 302 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: four out of your six receivers right there that aren't 303 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: going anywhere for at least another year or two right now. 304 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: Hell uh, broad is miss miss take is Damon whistling 305 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: and moving your meet up up? Is he making you 306 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: feel good? Honestly through training camp? I thought he was, 307 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: and I don't know that he's been terrible, but he's 308 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: certainly where's the drop off? You know a lot of 309 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: these players that we've been talking about that have had 310 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: kind of rough starts, if you would. And we go 311 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: back and we're like in training camp, in training camp, 312 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: we saw this Aron Jones. Yeah, you know, Colby Branty Brown, 313 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: the polease guys that we saw in training camp. I 314 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: mean I've heard this said a lot of times through 315 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: these first five weeks. Well, in training camp, we thought 316 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: he was going to be our guy. Where is that 317 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: drop off? Is it just the nature of playing games 318 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: and getting back into the swing of things. Is it 319 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: is where the pieces fall? For me? It's simple and 320 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: in practice you get to pick and choose. This is 321 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: a pass period, this is a run period, this is 322 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: play action pass period. In the game is live and 323 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: you don't know what's coming. So now you got to 324 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: learn on the fly. And if you don't have the 325 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: right guys, like when a Sean Lee go out, the 326 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: little bit of a continuity you had just went out 327 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: the window. Yeah you know. So now yeah, so now 328 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: you acting players that Damion Wilson Jones, who uh, I 329 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: don't think he has natural instincts anyway, he has a 330 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: great athletic ability, but he don't have just natural ball 331 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: hawking skills. You know, he's a better player when you 332 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: let him come up and cover guys and then he 333 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: falls back into his say, he seemed to play better. 334 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: So this team knew that, they knew that what there 335 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: was gonna face. But I don't think they think thought 336 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: it was gonna be like this. Well, I think where 337 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: they I think where the where the mis evaluation now 338 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: comes is you don't you know, we talk about the linebackers, 339 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: but you're not getting that training camp level that we 340 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: saw from Malie Collins. Yeah, you're not getting that. Yeah, 341 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: and you thought, hey, how many times we talked about oh, 342 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: Stephen Pie, I look at him getting the backfield today. 343 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: Stephen Pie is sitting somewhere right now, you know, Yeah, 344 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: that's back on. Yeah, he's getting rehab. Your your your 345 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: defense is not playing. There's only one side as well 346 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: that you're not playing well at tackle. You're not playing well, 347 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: you know with the linebacker situation that's been a lot 348 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: because of Jalen Smith just wasn't ready to play. And 349 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: the safeties you mentioned Byron Jones, Jeff Heat's been bad. 350 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: They've they've had Cabon Frasier's been bad. It just take it. 351 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: Just take a pick whoever you want to do, whoever 352 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: you want to pick. On the defense, with the exception 353 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: of your left defensive end, you're gonna say, there's one 354 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: player on this defense that you can really say has 355 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: had an exception. Yeah. First, I mean there's a lot 356 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: of guys that aren't doing very well that you really 357 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: relied on. Just this. You know, they say, Okay, we're 358 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: gonna change out all the corners, We're gonna change out 359 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: two of the safeties. Well, the replacements, you know, haven't 360 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: been up to snuff, and and some guys that you 361 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: really really relied on haven't been up to snuff either. 362 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: And I think it starts a lot with the defense. 363 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: What's going on in inside it tackle? Where I thought 364 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: last year that was a strength, it's not a strength 365 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: any longer. Yeah, you know you're missing Tyrrell McLean. Is 366 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: that so you're missing him? Him and Collins were a 367 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: good combination in there. Yeah. What what amazes me is 368 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: I and I always feared this and now and now 369 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: it's my worst nightmare. Is like when hustling to the ball, 370 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: it is not enough. You just need that freakish out 371 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, you need some playmaker. And see, this 372 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: is what I always fears. Brah Man. You know, I know, 373 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: right Mary Nearly. I understand he can holly him, but 374 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: when you know he don't play, he don't play the 375 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: actual defense one day is gonna catch us. Yeah, and 376 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: this is what I fear. But the good thing about 377 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: it is if if we're not going to have a 378 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: stop gap player that can come in and try to 379 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: give us some energy, that's going to youth movement. Well 380 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: you know what another thing guys is too. And even 381 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: if you sign Navarro Bowman, does it help your run defense? Yeah? 382 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: But is the fault to what we just talked about 383 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: the defensive line allowing guys on second level blocks? Yes, 384 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean these if these linebackers are constantly fighting blockers, 385 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter. You could have you could have 386 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: anybody you want by and mic linebacker, it's not gonna matter. 387 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: Go get Jack Lamb. Yeah, you're gonna go get anybody 388 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: who in the great Dick Bucket, whoever you want to 389 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: get the greatest linebackers ever played, Ray Lewis. Yeah, you know, 390 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean if if if blockers are getting up on 391 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: these linebackers. It doesn't matter. It could be Navarro Bowman, 392 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: but if he's fighting constantly to have to get off blocks, 393 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: that's an issue. Yeah to issue. Yeah, well, we're already 394 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: off to a hot start here on the Special podcast 395 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: on a Monday after a buye weekend. 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Right now 448 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: sitting there, ready for the forty nine ers away game 449 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: this weekend and a yeah, where I guess we're talking. 450 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: It might not be as easy as everyone's thinking. No, 451 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: thirteen points separating the forty nine ers between their five. 452 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: They're rowing six, aren't they They're rowing six and they've 453 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: lost five of those games by thirteen combined points. Yeah. 454 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they got beat up pretty good in Week one, 455 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: and ever since then they've lost on like the last 456 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: play of the game. Every week they made a quarterback 457 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: except they made a quarterback switch. Yeah. With bet c J. 458 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: Beth out of Iowa. We talked about him on the 459 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: Draft show Shout Out time to out out Draft Show. Yeah. 460 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: And just when you think and and five teams locked away, 461 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: the Giants go and get the win on Sunday Night 462 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: football really upset you, didn't it did not Survivor Pool. Yeah, 463 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: for many reasons, but Survivor Pool people took that one 464 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: on the chin. Yeah. Gosh, that's brutal. But you know 465 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: it was last week when we got the news of 466 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott Thursday evening that the Fifth Circuit Court, I 467 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: hope I said that right. So many sees, different courts 468 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: every week, it seems, has decided to uphold Ezeki elliott 469 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: suspension removing the injunction, and as it stands right now, 470 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: he's currently suspended, but the NFLPA has announced they will 471 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: file another a pill. Yeah, I'm so confused with this 472 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: whole entire process. But you know, we were talking about okay, 473 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: people are saying, are you going to trade for Carlos Hiden? 474 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: You know, we were like, oh, these crazy rumors and stuff. 475 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: But fans want to know what are they going to 476 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: do with running back? And do we even know where 477 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: Ezekie Elliott stands right now? When will we know? For 478 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: this week? At least? Well, as far as I understand it, 479 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: Zeke and his team are going to refile in bank 480 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: is what it's called, right, right, um spelled? Yeah? Yeah, 481 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: at the which court are they're gonna do it? At? 482 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: Just tant They're gonna refile in the fifth circuit? Yeah 483 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: they not Yeah for a for a basically an appeal 484 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: of what was just tossed out. Yeah, everything that I've 485 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: read suggests that it's very unlikely he will win this. Yes, 486 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: that's what I've heard, um, And so if that happens, 487 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: then for there are reasons why I'm sorry to interrupt 488 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: but it's just it's a rarity for the court to 489 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: grant these types of things. Basically, that's as far as 490 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: I understand it. It's not something they do very often. 491 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, the judge in Texas is asking for it, 492 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: right for he renders a final decision. But it was 493 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: so funny, is yeah, when this first went up to 494 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: the Fifth Court, Oh, this is a seven percent chance 495 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: they've rather even looking change these things. Well we got 496 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: seven percent. Yeah, Well you had three judges, yeah, and 497 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: it was it was it was pretty clear, just kind 498 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: of talking to some people that were following the case 499 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: pretty tightly. One of the judges was a was a 500 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: pro pro NFL judge, one judge was pro labor player, 501 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: and the third judge who had to make the call, 502 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: they didn't know which direction was going to go right now, 503 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: but they've seen some of these decisions have been made 504 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: on party lines, Democrats and Republicans. So that's another thing 505 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: you've got to kind of keep an eye on. But yeah, 506 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, to me, I wonder if people, and we 507 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: talked about this on our show six weeks ago, seven 508 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: weeks ago, that the fact that you're possibly going to 509 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: be three and three with Ezekiel Elliott. Do you mean 510 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a hindsight play now? But it's something 511 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: I talked about. You know, do you go ahead and say, Okay, 512 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: I understand clearing your name. I get that we're trying 513 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: to clear your name honestly, but do you take the 514 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: suspension right there and hope that you're three and three 515 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: or whatever and then play it out. Let's let's take 516 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: this at face value. You can't. You can't do that, 517 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: and you can't argue for that if you are, what 518 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: would you think they're better record could have been without him, 519 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: honestly their best case scenario. I don't, And honestly I 520 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: felt the same way that you did. Back in August, 521 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: and on our show, Derek Eagleton made what I thought 522 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: was a really good point, which is that if you 523 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: are to believe Ezekiel Elliott that right, he didn't do 524 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: anything wrong, and you're, yes, how can you can't just 525 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: take that suspension which not as only not just as 526 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: six paychecks that you're not going to get, but you're 527 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: just accepting that being your record and your legacy going forward, 528 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: and it's something that you have to work. I think 529 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: people have survived this you know. But but if you 530 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: adamantly believe that you did nothing wrong, why why he's 531 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: going to get suspended now anyway? Clearly? Yeah, but the 532 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: court system, the courts system, whether it's it's about and 533 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: it's not about it's not about the domestic violence now, 534 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: it's about whether he can play or not. They're not 535 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: ruling on the ruling on the ruling on right to work. 536 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: What they're doing right now, we've buried all the domestic 537 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: domestic violence stuffy eighteen feet of red tape. See that's not. 538 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: That's not the case anymore. It's it's not. But I 539 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: guess my point is, if that were me and I 540 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: was adamant that I had not done that, I'm not 541 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: just gonna put up with that if I don't have 542 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: to and just say, yeah, well so my legacy going forward? 543 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: Is it any better now? For him? Nate's got an 544 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: interesting look on no, no, no, I'm just to a 545 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: great debate here, But oh it's not. I mean, it's 546 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: not a great one because because to me, it's it's 547 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: it's clear that I get the part about clearing your name, 548 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: I understand it, But did he really clear his name? 549 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: If he obviously it didn't work out the way he 550 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: wanted it to. But you're talking about life versus football, right, No, no, no, no, no, no. 551 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: They can go ahead on. But my bottom line is 552 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: just right here. If we're gonna get past the domestic violence, 553 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: you still don't You still fight for the team. You 554 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: still have to make him, try to get all the 555 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: six games in as long as you can, because you're 556 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: a better team with Zeke. So you fight, fight, fight 557 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: until you can't fight no more. And then then then 558 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: if you're gonna not bury the domestic violence and you 559 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: adam it that you didn't do it, you still you fight, fight, fight, 560 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: because six games without Zeke is not is imaginable. But 561 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: I feel more comfortable with Zeke. Oh sure we do so, 562 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: But I don't think that's the question. I think you 563 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: could say, well, what would you think this team would 564 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: be without Zeke? A disaster? Oh no, you're about to 565 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: see what this team is out without You're about to 566 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: see who would have started the season. It would have 567 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: been a disaster. Even they get him now, it's gonna 568 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: be a disaster. So I don't even think record read 569 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: out of him. I just think, Okay, we got a 570 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: bunch of young kids have had it. I don't know. 571 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: I thought an interesting point that Emmanuel Acho made a 572 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: while back on Cover four, and at the time I 573 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: didn't really think, well, I didn't think it had any 574 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: merit to it. And now, kind of going back to 575 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: your question, he said, you know, maybe if this whole 576 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: situation had been handled in training camp and it was 577 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: six games, that's it, you know it with maybe three 578 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 1: three weeks, maybe a little bit more heading into your 579 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: regular season play that Ezekielllett will be missing the first 580 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: six games of your season. And he said, it's kind 581 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: of like when you break an arm and it's it's 582 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: your dominant hand. You have to learn how to write 583 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: with this hand. For sure. You know you're gonna go 584 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: back to this eventually, but while you got this cast on, 585 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to learn how to be productive with 586 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: the left hand for a little bit. Okay, what do 587 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: you do? How do you write? What are the different 588 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: movements in your life and kind of getting used to 589 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: that just for the time being. And you know, if 590 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: this team would have maybe had that knowledge, I think 591 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: the uncertainty has almost affected more than any case I've 592 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: seen before. You know, David Irving you knew it well 593 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: in advance. He's going to be out those first four games. 594 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: Who's going to be here? They could have benefited from 595 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: a more clear cut pick, I think so. I think 596 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: you know with this up and down and up and down. Okay, yeah, 597 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: you had to bench Darren McFadden maybe to keep him 598 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: healthy because you never knew when could he have been 599 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: a better back him and Zeke tandem. That's why I 600 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: would have done this in August, you know I would have, 601 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: and and trust me, Nate makes a great a great view. 602 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: You make a great view, you know. But is his 603 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: name really cleared? Obviously not, That's what I'm saying. But 604 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fault him for trying. No, and you 605 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't and should but you're doing right now. You're saying 606 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: he should have just taken it and sat out. See, 607 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying that. I'm saying that because I don't see 608 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: an I don't see a good ending for him. That 609 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: was my whole thing. It ain't gonna be a good inning, 610 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I just don't see it. I 611 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: don't see a good ending for him, and I don't 612 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: see a good ending for the team. But Brian, this 613 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: is this is, this is what the fall eventually gonna 614 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: be is Are you ready for that? To put this 615 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: team on his back? Every week? He has for the 616 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: first six weeks, and that's why I told you the 617 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: first five weeks. So with so without him, at least Zeke, 618 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: give him a reprieve. Rather, he's just for a half. 619 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: But without Zeke, you know now, I his accordinator may 620 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: not even wait, you may not even have no inkling 621 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: to say. Okay, let's continue to press on. Am I? Okay? 622 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: And we disagree on that. I get your point. It's 623 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: a bad situation. No, I don't see a good ending 624 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: for anybody, really, But I'm not going to kill the 625 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: guy in hindsight for trying to get out from under this. 626 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: Having said that, am I a crazy homer? If I'm 627 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: I want to watch what this looks like before I 628 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: just declare it a train wreck? I mean, certainly, obviously, 629 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: you're losing one of your best players and a crucial 630 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: component of your run. Your quarterback has played out of 631 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: his mind, right, and you're two and three combine Dak 632 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: raising his level of play with all right, we can 633 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: talk about that. Lets yes, where a whole lot of 634 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: component with you. Go ahead, I mean between the trio 635 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: of Alfred Morris, Darren McFadden and Rod Smith. Certainly it's 636 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: not as good as Ezekiel Elliott, but I'm not ready 637 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: to declare it an ineffective train wreck either. I just 638 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: will it be enough? Probably not. What was worse than 639 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen I know, we've got to rewind two seasons, 640 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: so and very different slates, different personnel. What was different? 641 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: Was it that you didn't have a solid quarterback or 642 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: that you didn't have a solid runner most of that season? 643 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: You had that season running back by committee. That kind 644 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: of plays to my points, hey, because their running game 645 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: was not bad that year. Darren McFadden, Yeah, sure, what 646 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying is there. You didn't start with Darren mcno, No, 647 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: Darren McFadden didn't take over until after the bye week. 648 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: Fittingly enough, it feels kind of familiar, and he ran 649 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: for one hundred and twenty seven yards against the Giants 650 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: in his first game as the starter. Um, I don't 651 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, people are asking that on Twitter. I don't 652 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: know if he's just the de facto starter from here 653 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: on out or if it's Morris. I don't know how 654 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: much to expect from Rod Smith, but I do think 655 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: between the three of them, I certainly think the Cowboys, 656 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: combined with DA's abilities as a runner, I think you 657 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: can hover at or above one hundred yards rushing. What 658 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: are they in the league right now rushing? I want 659 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: to say like fourteenth heading in Well, let me say, 660 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: let me rephrase this. Maybe if you had had Dak 661 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: press Scott in that twenty fifteen season when you were 662 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: going through Okay, Matt Castle, Brandon Weeden, who's this quarter? 663 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: But and you still have the running back situation, would 664 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: you have felt better about that team? Of course? I 665 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: mean defense played better. You know here you are. That's 666 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: if it's kept him in almost every game. That's a 667 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: seven to nine win team with Dak Prescott, I think, yeah, yeah, 668 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying instead of four and twelve, 669 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: right so, and that's so where I'm at right now 670 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: is barring something crazy like that, everybody just suddenly balling out. 671 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: And I've kind of been feeling this way since probably 672 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals game is you're you're probably talking about you're 673 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: gonna have to scrape and claw for your wins, and 674 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: this is probably a seven to nine win team. If 675 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: I had to guess, that's just the and it's gonna 676 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: be tough sledding. I had us. If you reframe your 677 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: expectations in that manner, I don't think this is completely undoable. 678 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: The reason I'm not as optimistic is because I had 679 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: us winning nine games easily. No, I had us win 680 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: nine and games he gave away two. Yeah, just gave away. 681 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: Had us winning nine games at the beginning of this season, Yeah, 682 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: and barely getting in as a wild card. Uh. Now, 683 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, you take away Zeke and you know, and 684 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: that's why I would once if he goes away, you know, 685 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: let's have another joint show him about four weeks, you know, 686 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: the Taylor boss man. Yeah, yeah, so we can see 687 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: where we at. Because, uh, just like Zeke and Dak 688 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: came in together and complimented each other last year, I 689 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: think the more complimentary player was was Zeke. If you 690 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: think Dak was easier, handle easier, his success was greater 691 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: because of Zeke in his offensive line. The condition you're 692 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: in right now, would you accept that condition if you 693 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: knew that suspension was over after this week? Obviously I 694 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 1: would much rather be in a situation where this Zeke, 695 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: situation was about to be over, over, over and done 696 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: with your return. Yeah again three and three potentially and 697 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: over Hindsight's twenty twenty. Man, Sure it is, and that 698 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: that's what we do here in the show. If I'm willing, 699 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm willing to break that apart and criticize it. You know, 700 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm still man. I'm not criticized. I'm just saying though 701 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: me personally, if I was in that front office, I 702 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: would like to have this behind me as soon as possible. 703 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: I just don't. I think you wind up in a 704 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: situation there where you're looking at NFL players as chess pieces, 705 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: and that's not the case. You know, they're not just 706 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: tokens that you move around on a board. They're people. 707 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: And Zeke Elliott is adamant that he didn't do anything wrong, 708 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to bash him or the organization 709 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: for trying to fight that, and obviously it's not ideal 710 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: for anybody. The court, the court system says he wasn't, 711 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: so he really is not a He's really not. It's 712 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: the NFL that's saying that he is a domestic violence person, right, 713 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: not the court exactly, so, which makes it all the 714 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: more frustrating. So why, I mean, his argument is though, well, 715 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: wait a minute, now, you're calling me a domestic violence 716 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: abuser or abusive guy. The court of our country says, 717 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm not, so, so what's the difference? Why? Why? Why 718 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: be concerned with the NFL because they're gonna because data 719 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: one holds golden the golden him. But but but but 720 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: but the law of the land. But the law the 721 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: land says he's not a domestic violence guy. Let's not 722 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 1: be naive, Brian, like that doesn't matter. It's it's whether 723 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: he's serving the suspension and what the NFL says that's 724 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: going to dictate his advertising revenue, whether or not he's 725 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: making game checks, whether or not he's in the Carry 726 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: Underwood Sunday Night football commercial next year, which he freaking 727 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: won't be after all this stuff. Sure, and so the 728 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: fact that better is no, it's not better, and that's 729 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: not and where are we right now? They are struggling 730 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: to win games, witness Gay This is so without this guy, 731 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: were a better team? What a deep question? 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This is the Talking Cowboys breaking streaming 767 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: live on Dallas Cowboys dot com and the officials Dallas 768 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys app Hey, So I don't know. I don't know 769 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with the Cowboys or Ezekiel Elliott 770 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: and what all happens over the next eleven weeks or so. 771 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: But I do know that Tommy John makes the most 772 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: comfortable underwear I've ever worn. In my life. They're gracious 773 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: enough to send me some free pairs, and it's just 774 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: after you're all about free, So I am all if 775 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,959 Speaker 1: it's I'm with you there. If it's free, give me three, Brian. 776 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: If I have to pay, no way, thank you. That 777 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: said I would pay for Tommy John. But you get 778 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: a discount, get twenty percent discount. How you go to 779 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: Tommy John dot com. Forward slash Cowboys. I would never 780 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: see y'all wrong. It was fantastics, not true. You probably 781 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: fantastic stuff were by lumberjacks all over the world. And 782 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: Brownie paper towel then too. Obviously that was a dig 783 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: at Dave wearing flannel. It's fifty degrees in Dallas today. 784 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 1: You're damn right, I'm wearing flannel. Okay, So Nate ask 785 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: your wonderful question that you asked. Yeah, yeah, team, I 786 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: just want to know one thing from Brian and uh 787 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 1: and get him Dave. Would this team be better without Zeke? 788 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean no, they're having a problem no winning games 789 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: with him. Will this team be better without him? I 790 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: don't think they'll be better without him, But I, like 791 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: I said, I'm not ready to declare them an inoperable 792 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: train wreck either. I don't know. What do you think 793 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: I thought if if he just sat the first six weeks, right, 794 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: that didn't happen. No, No, if he would have, they 795 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: would have been writing now what they are? That's what 796 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: I was thought. I thought they were. I thought they 797 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: would probably be a five hundred team. I didn't expect 798 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: to lose to the Rams. So what do you think 799 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: they are now? Where it looks like he won't be 800 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: available for this next six week stretch? I think you're 801 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: in trouble. How much trouble I think because you're gonna 802 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna put it all the quarterbacks back. Define define 803 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: trouble because I mean, I mean, are we talking O 804 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: and six during the two and four? Maybe two and four, 805 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: so that would put you at four and six? Am 806 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: I doing the map? No? I'm not four and seven. Yeah, 807 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: that is trouble. That's bad. Yeah. Enlisted team, enlisted team 808 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: defensively in the top fifteen defense real real quick. Yeah, 809 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: you you you are in trouble because, like like brought 810 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: I said, two fifteen, we at least had a defense 811 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: that competed and hailed people up and got people off 812 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: the field. You know this hasn't happened, This happened, this 813 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: hasn't happened. I mean the Giants stopped themselves. Yeah, this 814 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: was a conversation. You know, everyone over the bye weekend 815 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: you see different people and you see a lot of 816 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: people asking about what's going on with the Dallas Cowboys. 817 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys all got it this past weekend, 818 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: whether you wanted to think about the team or not. 819 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: Dave looking at you, Yeah, that's what the fair thing 820 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: that you know, people kept asking, like, man, last team 821 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: last year, that team was just having so much fun, 822 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, they were doing great things and was it 823 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: the locker room chemistry? And it got me thinking, you know, 824 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: we talked a lot about Man, this team just was 825 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: jelling on all cylinders last year. You know, obviously you 826 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: do that when you have eleven straight wins, no matter what, 827 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: whether you want to or not. But you're talking about 828 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 1: this youth movement? Does that affect and Nate, you're probably 829 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: the best way to answer this from first, does that 830 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: affect your locker room chemistry? You got guys catching up. 831 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: You know, you don't know them as well. They've only 832 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: been here for three months, and now you know you're 833 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: supposed to go to war with them and kind of 834 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: work on the line to them do different things. Last year, 835 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: you had so many veterans in this locker room, just 836 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: a sprinkle of young guys. Let's say you answer to yourself. 837 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: You answer to yourself. I mean a lot of guys 838 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: don't know each other. I mean they don't know what 839 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: each other is gonna do on certain plays. Can they 840 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: depend on them? If I was to call it, hey, briders, 841 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: now you know I'm gonna blitz this time, drop back 842 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: in this deep, deep zone. You know you just say 843 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: to drop back, I'm going on this here. Well, if 844 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 1: they did that last year, I could depend on brought 845 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: us to drop back this year here everybody whole way 846 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: out and all of a sudden the ball to snap 847 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: and now you see a lot of this, and winning 848 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: cures a lot. But if you don't know how to 849 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: play this game, you don't know how to be a 850 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: profession If you don't know that, hey, this is where 851 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be at all costs, and you don't 852 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: know when to adjust. It's third and five. The defense 853 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 1: asked for you to be ten yards off. You got 854 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: to move up. You know, you got to move up 855 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 1: because now all of a sudden, he run five y'alls 856 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: catch the ball. By the time you get to him, 857 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: he's got a first. So you got little nuances like that, 858 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: guys are not getting you know. I talked to a 859 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: coach and that he's like, if we can just get 860 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: him the line up right and not you know, and 861 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: not go off on their own. I mean, but make 862 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 1: a guy think he can go off on his own. Yeah, 863 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: it's happened. Yeah, it happened for big plays. Because it's funny, 864 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm hearing you say that you thought this 865 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: team was gonna win nine games, and I agree with you. 866 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: I had high expectations for the team, like most people did. 867 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: But it's almost funny that we didn't look at this 868 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: as a season of rebuilding because here you go, you 869 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: got you have to play a first place schedule, and 870 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: you got a lot of rookies, and then on that 871 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: old line that was so stout, you got two new 872 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: roles that are being filled that aren't just you know, 873 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: a step in and be the left guard, be the 874 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 1: right tackle. Those are big time roles. But what I'm saying, though, 875 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, should our expectations have been lower? Well, no, no, no, 876 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: you you keep your expectations. But like the right tackle 877 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: playing better than that most people would. The left guard, yeah, yeah, 878 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: they're coming out of training camp. He's playing much better. 879 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: You know, the left guard. We can't even decide who 880 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: was the left guard right, So you got me in 881 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: consistency there. Now your defense as a whole, uh you 882 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: love you love Deva's men and Sean Lee those you're 883 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: positives that ain't good enough? Yeah, and I for I mean, 884 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: you know we're talking about hindsight again. But okay, Nate, 885 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: Nate thought nine wins. I think I think I probably 886 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 1: thought ten. I was there were ten myself, which is 887 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: a damn good season. But that's a three Greek, three 888 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: game regression. I mean, I don't know anybody that expected 889 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: them to be what they were last year. Again, when 890 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: you talk about losing two fifths of your line, you 891 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: talk about secondary, letting your whole secondary go to Rell 892 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: McClain up and down Zeke decision made huge, Zeke the 893 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: Zeke roller coaster we've been on since Lie. So yeah, 894 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 1: the expectations on this team were high, um, but I 895 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: think I think most people probably did expect some sort 896 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: of regression. Whether it's the schedule, whether I mean eleven 897 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 1: game winning streaks in the NFL just don't come around 898 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 1: very all. The regression they thought was going to be 899 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: at quarterback, that's true that that hasn't happened. The regression 900 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: hasn't been at quarterback, which is honestly, and that's where 901 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: everybody worried. Two things you worried about the most regression 902 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: at quarterback and where's the past rush going to come from? 903 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: That's that is a common common thread. Yeah, throughout this 904 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: whole year. What what what got me nervous was the 905 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,959 Speaker 1: first place schedule And what we got me even even 906 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: worse is I saw the Eagles, and I saw the Riskins. 907 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: I thought got better either through coaching, through getting better coaches, oh, 908 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: getting better players. Eagles got better players. Riskins got a 909 00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator and the defensive line coach that's better. You know, 910 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: the offensive line coach Risks, I knew was going to 911 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: get better because that guy can coach. Yeah, go calhanya ye. 912 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: And this is another's something I was actually talking about 913 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: last night, which all that stuff is true. And you 914 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: know the Cowboys have progressed. Um, that's all there in 915 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: the record. But you look around the NFL right now, 916 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 1: and particularly the NFC, and find me the team that 917 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: looks head and shoulders up and down better. And there 918 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,720 Speaker 1: are some, but it's not a long list in my opinion, 919 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: especially in light of the fact that Aaron Rodgers is 920 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: potentially now done for the season. I think, particularly in 921 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: the NFC, you're looking at a whole lot of teams 922 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 1: where like nine, ten, maybe eleven wins is like you're ceiling, 923 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,720 Speaker 1: Like is there going to be a fourteen thirteen window 924 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL playoffs? It certainly doesn't look that way. No, 925 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 1: it's not. Well, I mean, the Eagles have the best 926 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: record in the NFC right now and five and one right, 927 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't you know. Obviously it's early and I'm not 928 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 1: an Eagles writers, so I'm not that equipped to speak 929 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: on it. But they don't strike fear in my heart, 930 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: you know the way that like playing really good defense 931 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: that the Green Bay Packers do. Yeah, no, no, they are. 932 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: I mean their front seven is nasty, don't They don't 933 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 1: let you run the ball? Yeah, and no, and that's 934 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 1: gonna be problematic certainly. And I think they have the 935 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: leg up to win the division. The loss they took 936 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: was at Kansas City, and at the time I thought 937 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: Kansas City was the best team in football. I don't 938 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: think you can still easily argue that they are. And 939 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: that was and the Washington went and played him as 940 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: a stalemate too in Kansas City. I mean, there's teams 941 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: better in this division the Cowboys. Oh yeah, no, it 942 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: was that was the killer. You know that that or 943 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: at least right now though are No, that's that's completely fair. 944 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: I think Washington and Philly both look better than the 945 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys right now, but I don't think they're so much 946 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: better that it's impossible to imagine this team winning games 947 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: against them. And that's kind of where. No, the Cowboys 948 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: aren't as good as I think anybody expected them to be, 949 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: and they're going to be dealing with problems for the 950 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: rest of the season. But yeah, you you the two 951 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: games that you just I don't i'd got to kill you. 952 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 1: I don't we get the remaining schedule. I don't see 953 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: a lot of long winning streaks, but I don't see 954 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 1: a lot of long losing streaks either. Think what gave 955 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: your hope is you thought Daz would be much better. Yeah, 956 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, you thought the offensive line would at least 957 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 1: be consistent, not not better. I knew he wasn't gonna 958 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: be better, not early, but we thought they would be consistent. Yeah, 959 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: we didn't know where the pass rush was coming from, 960 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: but we also thought that our linebackers as a whole 961 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: would be much better. That's been the most glaring We 962 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: thought that was a strength coming out of camp. That 963 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: has been the most glaring weakness in the whole. Dealing 964 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: with Sean Lee uh left out. It's like, wow, I 965 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: the safety play has been bad too, Nate, you know, 966 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: I am. I don't even want to respond to that. 967 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:56,399 Speaker 1: That depressing, huh because Jones I was thought his instincts kicking. 968 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: I thought his football instincts were kicking. He's reading his 969 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: keys and understanding the difference between a play action pass 970 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: and an actual run would be better. Uh, you know, 971 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 1: I can't hold nothing again. Heath. Heath is what I thought. 972 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: He was an excellent special team player that should have 973 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: a role in the DEFA not playing sixty players again. Yeah, 974 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: now that that see some things, you know, and it 975 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: may get me in trouble with some of the guys 976 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: over there management. Something's unfair. Yeah, some things that Heath, 977 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: that's unfair. Uh, Jalen Smith I said it back then. 978 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: I said now, I'm not judging his kid good or 979 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: bad until next year. Yeah, that was unfair. I am 980 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: shocked to be on a podcast in which I have 981 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: the sunniest disposition about what's going on with this team 982 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: because I'm not. I'm not trying to convince anybody that 983 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: it's good. But it was San Francisco. Howld on, mand On, 984 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 1: hold On, I know him asking it, san Francisco. How 985 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 1: do you feel? Oh, that's that's that's yeah. See, we're 986 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,359 Speaker 1: getting a lot of tweets right now. They're saying stop 987 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 1: the skies falling, mentality and all this stuff. Yeah, then, 988 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: don't you know what I'm not. I'm not saying this guy, 989 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: well I am. I'm saying I think you can absolutely 990 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: be you can have a realistic attitude about what what's 991 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: going on with this team without thinking that the season's over. 992 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,879 Speaker 1: On October sixteen, sixteen, do you think do you think 993 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 1: do you think that they're gonna be able to cure 994 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: problems that they've had in the running game or in 995 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: the run, run defense, cure cure because they're gonna have 996 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: to do that to ought to be successful. I think 997 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: you've got teams that can't run the football, that have 998 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: run the football on you. I think it'll I think 999 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: it's one thing for Todd Gurley to run the football 1000 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: on you. I think they have what it takes to 1001 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: improve it for sure. With with Anthony Hitchins and Sean 1002 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 1: Lee healthy and playing, I think it can be better. Yes, 1003 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: even with I know we talked about the defensive line 1004 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 1: and all that. I think it can be better. And I, 1005 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: like I said, I don't. You will miss Zeke, you 1006 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 1: absolutely will. But I think this team can. They'll do 1007 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: what it wants to do offensively with what it has 1008 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,439 Speaker 1: it running back, especially with how well the quarterbacks playing. 1009 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 1: One thing I feel really good about this team is 1010 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Maybe that'll be enough. Yeah, because maybe that 1011 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: will be enough. We're looking over there on the screen 1012 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: and we see Aaron Rodgers breaking that collar bone. One 1013 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: thing that I hope and pray is that we on defensively, 1014 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: we either gonna stop the pass. Oh, We're gonna stop 1015 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: to run. You can't get you can't give up the 1016 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,919 Speaker 1: chunk yardage on both played inside the rid zone. Huge 1017 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,439 Speaker 1: thing that you can also. Okay, we're gonna we're gonna 1018 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 1: We're gonna sit here and play both running pass team. 1019 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: It's too good. Teams are too good. You can't do that. 1020 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: You got to go into the rid zone. I'm saying, 1021 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: you ain't running the ball, so the only thing you 1022 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 1: can do is fast or vice versa. What if Navarra 1023 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: Bowman's on this team by Wednesday or Thursday, didn't take 1024 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: by two weeks to get him up to speed. Let's go, 1025 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: let go. Nate's ready to make that big of a difference. 1026 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm asking you. I told you could 1027 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: play the run here you go could help. Yeah, good 1028 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: help earlier. But the thing about it, we side here 1029 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,919 Speaker 1: and we debated this team, but we debated Friday whether 1030 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,399 Speaker 1: we should have uh Neil or the other young guy 1031 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 1: as Ash. So, yeah, make that somewhere somewhere and that 1032 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: you you gotta put a player in there that can 1033 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 1: stop to run somewhere in there, somebody that can help 1034 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: stop the run, help stop the run somewhere in there, 1035 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 1: because you think fass rushing way pass rushing is gonna 1036 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: go away when you always and that's what we did 1037 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: the other teams last year. When it's third and two, 1038 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: it's third and three. You know who, we gotta put 1039 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: a big boy here because you put a little nicola 1040 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,359 Speaker 1: who were gonna blow him up? Yeah? Yeah, I'm gonna 1041 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: give you a big old hug when the show's over. 1042 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm okay, Okay, you guys are good. You guys know 1043 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 1: I don't need a hug. I just I just you know, 1044 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: if if you're if you haven't looked at this football 1045 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: team and seen the issues, then I mean I can't 1046 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: help you. I'm well, I'm well aware of No, I'm 1047 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 1: not talking about you. I'm talking about you are talking 1048 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: about No. No, Hey, I can't believe I'm sitting there 1049 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: with a guy with a Sunday disposition. I'm not going 1050 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 1: to try to tell you that everything's all good. Yeah 1051 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm not. But it's also not as bad as you 1052 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: two are not knowing it. No, No, I'm not. I 1053 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: just what do you like, really, break, what do you 1054 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: like about this? What are three biggest positives? Just give 1055 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 1: him one? Okay, I'll give you the quarterback. I mean 1056 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: that's a big one. Okay, I'm with you on that. 1057 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 1: And I mean I'm the first one to criticize the 1058 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: offense as the reason why they lost that Green Bay game. 1059 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: But you're putting up thirty points a game. You're running 1060 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 1: the ball not as well as you did last year, 1061 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: but pretty well. I looked it up during the break 1062 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: there and they're in the top ten in the league. 1063 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,240 Speaker 1: And Russ get the left guard, right, I don't because 1064 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback is better. Certainly helps, but that's all that 1065 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: all works in it together. But you're two and three. Yes, 1066 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: with the YEA offense, they my issue. It's not my issue. 1067 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: You're this team was only ever gonna be as good 1068 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: as its offense, and even without Zeke, I'm not ready 1069 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: to close the book on the offense being napped. I 1070 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:09,919 Speaker 1: think last year defense got to feel not enough. Yeah, 1071 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: not enough, like last week when they didn't keep Aaron 1072 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: Rodgers off the field. Again, defense did just enough last 1073 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 1: year off the field not enough. Defense did just enough 1074 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: last year even some games had good games. Yeah, you 1075 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: haven't had that one good game. I'm play yeah another 1076 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,240 Speaker 1: and honestly call me a homer if you want. Another. 1077 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: Thing I do feel good about coming out of the 1078 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: bye week is the relative health situation. I mean, Anthony 1079 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: Hitchins and Shaun Lee. I expect to start and play 1080 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: a lot in this game this weekend, and I do 1081 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,879 Speaker 1: think that can make a difference. You flip my way 1082 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: the loose. Oh, if they lose to San Francisco, I'm 1083 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 1: joining you on the SS Draft show. Yeah, let's do it. 1084 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: Day took his headphones off three minutes left no servants 1085 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,240 Speaker 1: to Sunshine. Mister jack Man would not be allowed to switch. 1086 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 1: You know you would not if they lose to San Francisco. 1087 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm no, I want Dave to be the guy. We're 1088 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: going to do it if he if they are not 1089 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: losing San Francisco, but if that tragedy was to have 1090 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,439 Speaker 1: we are testing the same thing about the RAM shirt 1091 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 1: up every show, the same thing about the RAM they 1092 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 1: lose to the Niners. I'm just gonna work from home 1093 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 1: for the rest of you. Not not doable, Sorry, I 1094 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: know I'm gonna pick the Cowboys gets the Rams ms Rams. 1095 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: These boys came beatlem after We'll see we will see 1096 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: it doubt now, isn't there? Oh it's hey, join us 1097 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: for a Monday episode. Yeah, just trying to have my 1098 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 1: best Monday possible right now, coach, Just trying to have 1099 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 1: my best money. Yeah, when you though about the Cowboys 1100 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 1: all weekend, way to go. He did. He told you 1101 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 1: three times in the show that he was very much 1102 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,959 Speaker 1: and tuned to everything Cowboys. I wanted to seem like, mister, 1103 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 1: I can't turn it off even when I have a 1104 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 1: social life. You don't. I have no social life. You 1105 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,239 Speaker 1: really don't. But at least LSU who got you a 1106 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 1: win this weekend Tiger Tigers. So you know, hey, we 1107 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 1: just gave you kind of a pressing overview of all reality. Ever, 1108 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 1: don't ever look at this is depressing. When you when 1109 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: you're honest, when you're when you take you're honest with yourself. 1110 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 1: The number one problem, the number one problem that NFL 1111 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: front offices have that they can't evaluate their own team. 1112 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: When you when you lose that ability to evaluate your 1113 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: own team, you're going to be the Cleveland Browns and 1114 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 1: this team big and they can evade what they seeing 1115 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: the same thing seeing, they seeing the same thing. That's 1116 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: why they're trying to getting Vera because they see we 1117 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: got to stop this run. Yeah they yeah, they understand, 1118 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 1: they see the same thing. They totally understand. The problem is, though, 1119 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: can you do enough? And you know and you Navara 1120 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 1: Bowman is a piece that can help you and if 1121 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: you get it back into go in the right direction. 1122 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 1: But Nate's right, you don't play the run, and teams 1123 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: just continually hammer the football and show balance on you. 1124 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 1: You can score thirty five points a game and it 1125 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 1: ain't gonna matter. Yeah, you can look at the Dallas 1126 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys to that in sixteen season, we're able to do that. 1127 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 1: Go find the twenty thirteen tape to talk about bad defense. 1128 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well we've got plenty to talk about 1129 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: this week. I mean, hey, I didn't think this whole 1130 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,439 Speaker 1: hour it's just going to be dominated with the talk, 1131 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 1: but it was great stuff. So thank you guys today 1132 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 1: and everyone will have normal podcasts starting tomorrow. If you 1133 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 1: guys stay tuned to Dallas Cowboys dot com. Can't Garrison, 1134 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: We'll get that schedule for you. So thanks everyone. Stay strong, 1135 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: Zeke