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Speaker 1: And the other thing with Hayton Hurst is he is

428
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Speaker 1: an older player, so you maybe expect him to get

429
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,159
Speaker 1: to that prime he needs to, which is which is

430
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 1: odd because of the late start to football. He's all

431
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 1: played it for like two years, you know, uh, which

432
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 1: is crazy. But I think from a maturity standpoint, when

433
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Speaker 1: you talk about the leap that players have to make

434
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,160
Speaker 1: from college to the pros, it's often difficult for tighten

435
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 1: It's just like it is wide receivers to really make

436
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 1: that huge immediate impact. And part of that, I think

437
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 1: is just because you're still learning to be a pro

438
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 1: and that position is incredibly difficult. At least Hayden Hurst

439
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 1: has half of that kind of out of the way,

440
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, all the pitfalls that come with a maturity

441
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 1: and all those things learning how to be a pro.

442
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 1: I expect him to be ahead of your traditional rookie

443
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,360
Speaker 1: in that regard. Yeah. Yeah, And so i 's keep

444
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 1: moving on down the draft. I've said before, I said

445
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 1: it on Finals Drive this week. My favorite pick, if

446
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: I had to pick one, it might be Orlando Brown.

447
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 1: You're just gonna skip over the quarterback. Well, that's true,

448
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 1: that's true. That's that's go to Lamar jeff this year.

449
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 1: I know. But but we have spent so much draft

450
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 1: right yeah, um, yeah, we can. We can hit a

451
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Like I agree with Jeremiah and that I

452
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 1: think that there's potential for him to see time this

453
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 1: year for sure. Like I don't necessarily think it's a

454
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 1: foregone conclusion that you just put him on the bench. Now.

455
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 1: The Ravens obviously want Joe Flacco to go up to

456
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: play great, and they expected he'll be better this year.

457
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 1: And um, there's I mean, there's a reason why they

458
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Speaker 1: didn't take Lamar Jackson at five because they have confidence

459
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Speaker 1: to Joe Flacco and they first wanted to put the

460
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 1: best possible team on the field this year. And surround

461
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 1: Joe with as many pieces, and that's why they took

462
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Speaker 1: hayde Hurst five. Now. They also think that Lamar Jackson's

463
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Speaker 1: dynamic player both now and in the future. That's why

464
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Speaker 1: they traded back and a get him. But I don't

465
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Speaker 1: think we should overlook the fact that the Ravens made

466
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Speaker 1: the move at to take her pass on Jackson knowing

467
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: he could have been taken by somebody else, could have

468
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 1: the Patriots, could have gone to the Patriots, could have

469
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: gone to somebody else. Um, And they were college pable

470
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: doing that because they felt like they were going to

471
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: be a better team this year by surrounding Joe Flackt

472
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: with more pieces. Yeah, I would totally agree with that.

473
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: What excites me about Lamar Jackson and this is everybody,

474
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Speaker 1: you know, all my friends and everybody keep asking me

475
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Speaker 1: what do you think of the pick? And I love

476
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Speaker 1: the pick. I absolutely adore the pick because here's the thing.

477
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens offense needed to get more exciting

478
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: down the road or whatever. It just fans want to

479
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: see exciting offense, right and that I don't know exactly

480
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: how great Lamar Jackson's gonna be down the road, but

481
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you one thing. He's gonna be exciting.

482
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of wow moments at V

483
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Speaker 1: ANDT Bank Stadium, and I'm pretty pumped up for that.

484
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: Like I mean, it's just been a long time where

485
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 1: fans come and to watch the defense and you're like,

486
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 1: all right, well, the Ravens are gonna grind it out.

487
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: And I don't think they want to be that team anymore.

488
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 1: They don't want to. I don't think they will win

489
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: like that, and they want to always be physical and

490
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: all those things that the Ravens are knowing for. But

491
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: I think they want to get exciting on office. They

492
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: want to put up some points. And I think also

493
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's ability to move around the pocket, move the pocket,

494
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 1: shift the pocket movements inside the pocket and outside, you know,

495
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: to make those kind of plays is something that they

496
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: the Ravens haven't had, you know. Joe is more of

497
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: your traditional quarterback stands in that pocket, you know, And

498
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: I think that they've seen that if if a guy

499
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Speaker 1: can freelance a little bit by a little extra time,

500
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: you can get big plays out of that. Yeah, And

501
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: you just look around the league and look at a

502
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: lot of the players that are have been really successful

503
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: in the last five years, and there's a number of

504
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: these dual threat you make mix in some repass option,

505
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: you have the ability to be a little bit more creative. Um,

506
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: just look at some of the most recent quarterbacks. We

507
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: look at what just Saan Jackson or Watson, Deshaun Watson

508
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: did last year for the Houston Texas when he was

509
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: out there. Um, you look at what for the Eagles.

510
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't run quite as much as Lamar Jackson,

511
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: but he's a it's moving more. I think makes a

512
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Speaker 1: big difference. And I think that Lamar Jackson bring that.

513
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: You know, the Rams are obviously gonna have to tweak

514
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: their offense for him. It's he's a special kind of talent.

515
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: But I look forward to seeing what that offense looks like.

516
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: Now we can move on. But oh, my guy, because

517
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: I picked him in my mo Yeah, um yeah, I

518
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: think he might be my favorite pick. I like that.

519
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: I like that. I just I just interested to here.

520
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: I am curious as to why that is. Well, I

521
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: think that he could be a starting right tackle potentially

522
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: this year, and that that you know, he mentioned the

523
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State game or a lot of Brown shut down

524
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa. They had a higher state defensive front. Nick Bosa.

525
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: The number one overall pick, you have to put out

526
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,239
Speaker 1: there the most most uh personnel. Guys think that he's

527
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: going to be the number one overall pick next year.

528
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: Didn't do anything against Atlanta Brown that's pretty good in

529
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: my mind. Um. And so he was playing left tackle

530
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: and that was a really good offense. He just I

531
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: get that, like not a great combine performers, kind of sloppy.

532
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 1: But he's so big. You know, Bryan McKinney when he

533
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: was here, it's not like Brian McKinney was this technical

534
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: technician in terms of his also in the metals, right.

535
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: He also wasn't the David you know. He wasn't this

536
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: sculpted marble. Yeah you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah exactly.

537
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: And so he he what he was Maybe his best

538
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: ash frout was his size and maybe it's the same

539
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: with Orlando Brown. Um. And I like him as a

540
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: right tackle. I I think he could maybe not weak one,

541
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: but I think that he's gonna start some games right

542
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: tackle this year. I like him his right tackle. But

543
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: you know me, I'm never going to take anything away

544
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: from my boy. Hearst. I like your boy Hirst. I

545
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 1: like your boy Hirst at left guard too. And as

546
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: I said before, I don't even go completely off the

547
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: rails here. You can still put Hearst at left guard.

548
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: You can put my boy Alex LUs a center. I

549
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: think that that's a big boy offensive You are talking

550
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: about a big offensive line. Well, they didn't draft the

551
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: center until the sixth round, Bradley Boseman, So that's maybe

552
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: it's a possibility. Yeah, maybe it's a possibility. All right.

553
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, tight end out of Oklahoma, really like that pick.

554
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: Pass catching guy rhymes a lot of Pita, Maybe not

555
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: his suddenness, Pitta. I think Pitto is a little bit smaller,

556
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: had a little bit more suddenness to him. But Andrew's

557
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: a big dude who knows how to get open, catch

558
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: the ball and can get up the field. I think

559
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: I think that's a really good pick in terms of

560
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if I I probably predict more yards

561
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: for Hayden Hurst his rookie season, but I don't think

562
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: it's going to be that different between these two guys.

563
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: I think Mark Andrews has a chance to make put

564
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: up some numbers this year. I mean, I think both

565
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: guys media impact. Yeah, yeah, I agree, Anthony Averite av

566
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: He's I mean, I don't know. There's a few guys

567
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: ever since in the year that you say, how did

568
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: this guy get to the forefront fifth round, six round.

569
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: There's a few of them actually in the Ravens draft, UM,

570
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: but Averite is one of them. He's a two year

571
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: starter at Alabama. UM they had the third best defense

572
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: in the country when him and Marlon Humphrey were out

573
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: there as the starting corners. Then he came back and

574
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: started this year they went and won a national championship.

575
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: He runs a four three six. I know he's not

576
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: six ft two like Marland and quite as big and chiseled,

577
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: but you know, he's five eleven. He's not five eighty Mark.

578
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: I don't think Marlin is six to uh, but he's

579
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: a little small in Marlin. He's not quite as jacked

580
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: up as Marlin. He's not as physical as which was

581
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: one of the big reasons his first round pick was

582
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: he can put a press guy getting your face, you know,

583
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: redirect th ride receivers, all that stuff. That's not Anthony's

584
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: game exactly. No, but he played at a very high

585
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: level for the best defense and the best team in

586
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: a pro style defense. So I'm going with that one.

587
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: I agree at Beth at worst really quality death. I

588
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: think as a rookie, Kenny Young, the inside linebacker out

589
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: of U. C. L A. This one might have been

590
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: one of them, a little bit more surprising picks because

591
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: I know you were this funny you want keep Griffin.

592
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: I was buying in the story, so I was, really

593
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: but I think Kenny Young. You know, everybody talks about

594
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: the Ravens getting athletic inside linebacker who could cover running

595
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: backs and tight ends. This is the guy that can

596
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: do it. Uh, you know he can be a special

597
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: teams contributor. Early on, that was right around the sweet

598
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: spot where we were both thinking inside linebacker in the

599
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: middle round. We both took inside linebackers right around that spot,

600
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: and we both missed on who it would be. But yeah,

601
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: go look at Kenny Young. Just do a Google image

602
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: search on Kenny You want to talk about a jack

603
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: ripped dude, Dude's out of his mind ripped all right.

604
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: Next pick wide receiver Jalil Scott in New Mexico State.

605
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: This is your big boy, This is the albatross on

606
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: the outside. What kind of impact do you think he

607
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: could have as a rookie. I don't know if it'll

608
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: be that significant, to be honest, I think that it

609
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: depends on whether he can prove himself as a red

610
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: zone threat. I think that's where he's gonna make his money,

611
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: is a red zone threat. We've seen the catch that

612
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: he made last year, the one hand in snag Odell

613
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: Beckham style. Almost. Um, if he made plays like that,

614
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a way from me on the field. Um.

615
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: But I don't necessarily think that it's gonna be he

616
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: I don't see him in the same vein as I

617
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: do a Hayden Hurst or Mark Andrews where they're going

618
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: to come in and make any media impact. I kind

619
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: of feel that way about both receivers him and Lastly Yeah,

620
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: Lastly excites me though. Yeah, I think Lastly could be

621
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: a player. He's a high ceiling guy. Yeah, he's a

622
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: very high ceiling guy. I mean, you want to talk

623
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: about a guy who when he was on the field

624
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: could could dominate at times. Pretty awesome now and he

625
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: was one of Steve Smith's favorite guy in the draft,

626
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: which I think the Ravens if they knew that, you know,

627
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: if they talked to Steve that that would hold a

628
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: little weight. And uh, you know, this guy is competitive.

629
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: It's got a little dog in him, a little edge

630
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: to him, which I like out on the field, the

631
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: smaller quick twitch. Uh, he rises a little bit of

632
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. Fifth round, Picky Brown sacked and that was

633
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 1: sixth round. But we went a little early this time.

634
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I do like getting a

635
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: motivated receiver, which he is first round talent, had the

636
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: off field concerns which dropped him down. Had some drops

637
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: which is a little concerning, but big play potential. And

638
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: I think the fact that he's hungry is going to

639
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: be good for him and this offense. And I don't

640
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Speaker 1: think the drops are like that he has poor fundamentals

641
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: catching the ball or has a hands problem. I think

642
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: it's just a lack of focus at all times. So

643
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: if the Ravens can get him locked in, you know,

644
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: and and uh, really motivated, I think he could be

645
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: a great player. Sean Elliott the joker, Yeah, the safety

646
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: out of Texas. This pick shocked me. Well, if he

647
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: goes back to what I was just saying, guys that

648
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: are really good playing big time programs at a high

649
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: level and then they just fall to the middle of

650
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: the draft for no reason or the end of the draft. Right,

651
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: it's just so weird. You know, people knock him for

652
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: his movement skills, which you look at it, and the

653
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: dude had six picks last year I believe it was,

654
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: which was tied for fourth most in the country. He

655
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: was up for the Jim Thorpe Award as the best

656
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: defensive back in college football. And you got him in

657
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: the sixth round I think. I mean, it was a

658
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: one year starter, so you had a big year his

659
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: senior year that obviously hurt him. He was clearly a

660
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: one year starter for a reason in Texas. But sometimes

661
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: there's reasons or just whatever. They have good guys in

662
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: front of them, or injuries happen, whatever. You have to

663
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: find what that is, suss that stuff out. And the

664
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Speaker 1: Ravens are a team that trust the tape. When you

665
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: make plays in big time college football, the Ravens think

666
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: or small school if you make plays in college football,

667
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: the Ravens believe you can make plays in the NFL

668
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: at some point or enough. Yep. And and I think

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Speaker 1: that you know, the Ravens obviously have a two starting safety,

670
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: but maybe he's somebody that could compete with that Anthony

671
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: Levine kind of rover roll linebackers and some of these

672
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: special teams. Yeah, and I think the Ravens are preparing

673
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Speaker 1: themselves for a little bit down the road at safety.

674
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Speaker 1: You know, last year they drafted Chuck Clark, who they

675
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Speaker 1: really like. I mean, who knows down the line. It

676
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: could be Chuck Clark and or Deshaun Elliott out there playing,

677
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, once the Ravens moved on from Metal or

678
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: Tony Jefferson or whatnot so good future picks and good

679
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: depth right now, I was interested in Jeremiah brought greg

680
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: so Nutt as one of his favorite picks. Well, you

681
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: talk about somebody that hasn't played a whole lot of football,

682
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: that's Gregson. Not played basketball at Wagoner then said hey,

683
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: I give this football thing a try. He's big, six

684
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: ft six three. He kept, he did, he did, but

685
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: he didn't get much playing time really on the on

686
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: the basketball for his future if he wanted the future

687
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: and professional sports is not on the basketball court. But yeah,

688
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: six but six three hundred and five pounds. So I

689
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: would think that he's probably an ideal candidate for practice squad,

690
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, and give him some time to develop and

691
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: see if he can turn into a pretty good player.

692
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: I'd be interested if if he got you know, with

693
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: more time in NFL strengthen conditioning program. If he's a

694
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: guy that could like bump into guard even right, you know,

695
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's got he's an athletic. If you can

696
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: put some size on that, because six six isn't really

697
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: that big for a tackle. I mean when he comes

698
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: in and stands next to Orlando Brown, You're gonna be like, oh,

699
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 1: that guy is the tackle, you know, pointing to Orlando. Uh. So,

700
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if they can turn him into

701
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: a really athletic, big guard. Well, you know, I like

702
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: those types of gars. That's what Alex Lewis is. That's

703
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: what Collecio Samile was when he was here. Tackle yeah, tackle,

704
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 1: like kicked into guard and played it. It was a

705
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: big athletic I wonder. Anyway, Bradley Boseman out of Alabama

706
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: the center in the sixth round. To me, I think

707
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: this was a good need pick. You know, they needed

708
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Speaker 1: somebody to come in here and challenge right now for

709
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: the center position with what's Mats Scrow exactly. Uh. So

710
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: Bozeman is a guy who you look at him and

711
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: you're not He's not gonna impress you with his athleticism

712
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: necess early, but he just gets the job done. And

713
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: he got the job done at Alabama, you know, against

714
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: some really good defensive fronts and just like somehow he

715
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: gets himself in the right position. You know, Marcia Yana

716
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: wasn't really a wow athlete either. Were gonna say Bradley

717
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: Boses the next Martial Yonda. But sometimes those guys who

718
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: were just grinders like you and me. Once again, we'll

719
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: put that out there. I'm all right with those guys,

720
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: especially in the sixth round when you needed a center.

721
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: You know what round Ryan Jensen was taken six round six.

722
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: By the way, I tweeted this over the weekend. Uh

723
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: everyone loves the dog in the draft. When we talked

724
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: about this before, but Ryan Jensen, Rick Wagner, Kyle you check.

725
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: And there's one more that I'm missing Williams and Brandon Williams. Yeah, yeah,

726
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: all of them turned out to me. That was rounds

727
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: three through six. Those four guys turned out to be

728
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: the four highest paid players among the four highest paid

729
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: players at their positions in the NFL. So I know,

730
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: I know that the Ravens did not hit on the

731
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Speaker 1: top round, but that draft was one of the best

732
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: in recent Crazy. How that could that whole scrip could

733
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: just flip Jackson could continues to be a dominant center, right,

734
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: and all these guys continue to be really really good players.

735
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: You might look back at it and say, wow, that

736
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Speaker 1: was among the top five or top ten drafts in

737
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: Raymond's history. Right, It's it's crazy, which wild. Imagine if

738
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: they had hit those those early picks, right, or if

739
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: you just flip them, if you just slip, if you

740
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: n gone Wagner and then Brandon Williams, you get a

741
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: franchise tackle, and then you get a franchise defensive tackle,

742
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: You're like, oh man, yeah, I was to get a

743
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: great center in around three or whatever. Yeah, it's interesting. Last,

744
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: but not least, Zach Siler at a fairist State? Did

745
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: you know where fair State was? I was just gonna

746
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: ask you the same question here. I did not know.

747
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know, of course I didn't know. Just just

748
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: immediately Ferris Wheels just start um. But he's big. He's

749
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: a big Michigan yea, I guess you get answered. Um.

750
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's a big boy, similar to Brent Urban.

751
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: He's six ft six, what is he three hundred pounds?

752
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: To me, he's like a little bit wider than I.

753
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: He weighs less than Irman. Now he weighs less, but

754
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: he just seems a little This is make logic, he

755
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: just seen. It just feels just I'm just telling you.

756
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: When he gets in here, I think he's gonna look

757
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: like a combination of Wormley and and Urban. Urban is

758
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: a big dude, and so I think that he's in

759
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: that mold of a really big, strong defensive end. I like,

760
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know when you're stockpiling those guys now too,

761
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: because they have exactly Um, I mean, look, there's twelve

762
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: picks in this class. You know, we talked about all

763
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: twelve these guys like they're all kind of end up

764
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: being you know, all bros. And obviously that's not gonna

765
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: be the case. But I think that, you know, we

766
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: are in agreement that this is a draft that filled

767
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: a lot of needs. Um. The Ravens said going into

768
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: it they needed to take some shots. They took those shots,

769
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: They took their swings. They had plenty of them. You know,

770
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: they made the picture work, and that if not if

771
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: if all these guys aren't as good as we're saying

772
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: that they could be, if even a quarter of them are, yeah,

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00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: that's a that's a win. And that's kind of the

774
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: approach that the Ravens have taken in a number of years.

775
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: There are of the mindset that sometimes it's like throwing

776
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: darts and you just gotta take the more chances you get,

777
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: the more opportunities you have at hitting players. And I'll

778
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: say this too, I think that this is probably the

779
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: most excited I can ever remember the Ravens being at

780
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: the end of the draft. They felt like the board

781
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: fell their way. That's why when they're trading backed oftentimes

782
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: that's a good sign that they feel like that the

783
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: board is falling in their favor because people are want

784
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: their picks, they can accumulate more, and they're willing to

785
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: trade back because there's a group of players that they

786
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: feel like, we'll still be there. That's what happened this year.

787
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: Every single round, they felt like they were trading back,

788
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: adding value and getting good players. Sorry. The beauty of

789
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: it was, they went into the draft from wanting to

790
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: trade back, and everybody wanted to trade up with them,

791
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: So it's just it's perfect. I mean, they wanted an

792
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: offensive player in the first round. I think that's what

793
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: they targeted. They wanted offensive players throughout this draft, and

794
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: it happened that. You know, the takeaways just so we

795
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 1: you know, we're not completely all one harvest saying gung

796
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: ho about this and whatever. We talk about. What maybe

797
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: didn't happen, okay, is you didn't get you know, the

798
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: high wide receiver. Obviously, we both said we liked Jalil Scott,

799
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: we liked Jordan lastly, I think they have high ceilings,

800
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: both of them. But you didn't get the dj more.

801
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: You didn't get the surefire bet at wide receiver. So

802
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: who knows next year, you know, if if it doesn't

803
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: work out with Crabtree and Smoking Browns on a one

804
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 1: year contract and Sneed who knows, you know, he signed

805
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: a two year deal, you still put a band aid

806
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: essentially over the wide receiver position, which I know, you

807
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: know you might be in the same session next year.

808
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: And the other thing is a running back. You know,

809
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: I was hoping that the Ravens would take one uh

810
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: with Terence West leaving I think that there's an opportunity

811
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: for a running back, and unfortunately I didn't have one.

812
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: I have Mark Walton was a guy who I had

813
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: my eye on, as well as Callen Balage. Both went

814
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: in the fourth round and just didn't quite fall there

815
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: to the Ravens where I think maybe they could have

816
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: been interested. All right, so uh, really really exciting drafts

817
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Speaker 1: and we appreciate everybody listening. Thanks again to Daniel Jeremiah

818
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: for joining us. As always, we love to hear from you. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Are sending your emails every single week at the lounge

820
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Speaker 1: at Ravens dot NFL dot net. And make sure you

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Speaker 1: come back next week because we have Eric DaCosta stop.

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Speaker 1: Ye you want to get the full breakdown, Dacasto give

823
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Speaker 1: it to you. Yep, So you're gonna have to come

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Speaker 1: back for that next week. Thanks for listening everyone. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you then. Picking my pounds