1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharp or Square, presented by hard Rock that 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: we are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: the show that makes the square sharper, makes the wise 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: guys pay attention. I am Chad Noman. I am joined 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: as always by my bff, my companion, my capadre professional 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon, Chad. 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: How are we doing long, long, long walk up to 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: the dark and cavernous third floor tonight? 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Because Wow, wild day. Joe Flacco is forty years old. 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: He throws for four hundred and seventy yards with a 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: bad shoulder. Kyle Meninge, a rookie seventh round pick from 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: Rutgers in the same game, runs for one hundred and 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: sixty eight yards. Not even the most exciting things that 14 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: happened in that game, because it was the Bears winning 15 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: with a touchdown with seventeen seconds left on a broken tackle. 16 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: The Bengals just could not stop anybody. We also had 17 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: an NFL record field goal of sixty eight yards in 18 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: the Jags Raiders game from Jacks kicker Cam Little Simon. 19 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: So much exceptional work today, except by US one and four. 20 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: On the day we won with the Falcons, we lost 21 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: with the Chargers the Lions, the Texans, and the Chiefs. 22 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: Last ones out were the Panthers, who we decided to 23 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: leave out in favor of the Falcons, so it wouldn't 24 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: have made a difference. The four games we were totally 25 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: com to. Ever since Thursday, we're all loose the hers 26 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: dude rough Rough. 27 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we knew it was the trap week, and we 28 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 3: somehow took four favorites that we loved and got smoked 29 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: on all four or one win, like you said, your 30 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: dog Atlanta that came through. And it's never a good 31 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 3: week where I think we had. I'm almost positive I 32 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: had Pittsburgh in with the hook at three and a half. 33 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: We switched them out for Carolina, and that switched out 34 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: Carolina for Atlanta. 35 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: All three were. 36 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: Winners and we left untouched four straight losers that we 37 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: will get into. 38 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: We will get to our early leans. We're gonna get 39 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: to how we did all in all of our picks. 40 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to your live comments from the chat. 41 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be blistering today. All right, let's let's 42 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: just talk about the one that worked, which was Atlanta 43 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: plus five and a half in New England. It didn't 44 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: look like it was going that well for us. They 45 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: were down twenty one to seven in the first half 46 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: and Drake May kind of looked on third down like 47 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: he was becoming the scariest and most automatic play in football. 48 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: But like always, a freaky fumble leads to a touchdown. 49 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: It's twenty one to fourteen at halftime. I don't know 50 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: about you, but I still never felt great about the 51 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: Falcons in that game. 52 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: No, we got really lucky, but like we always said, 53 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: that's why you bet the number and trying not to 54 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: rationalize normal thinking Pennix. I mean, he just made so 55 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: mistakes in that game. Directly was playing so much better, 56 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: and he gave us a gift we needed that desperately needed. 57 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: That fumble totally flipped the game and you know, London 58 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: having three touchdowns again, I'm all about it, like that's 59 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 3: why you just played the number. I knew were gonna 60 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: have to get lucky with this one, but you said it. 61 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: You're down, you know, fourteen points need a lot of 62 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: luck to go away, and I think it was a 63 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: what a fourth and two they get that final touchdown. 64 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: It's it was just one of those days. So I 65 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: won't complain and we'll take it. Glad we got there. 66 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: And yeah, like I always say, I try not to 67 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: be stubborn when smart people are telling me I'm making 68 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: a mistake and I listen, like I I just that 69 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: when that the way that game started, That's what I 70 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: was so scared of, Right that Pannix came out just 71 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: to not look and Synk looked a little rusty, but yeah, 72 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: big Big drives by him at the end of the game. 73 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,559 Speaker 3: It's he needed the turnovers, right, but you know we didn't. 74 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: He didn't make the mistakes. Drake May did. Kept in 75 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: that game. But once again, this Patriots team, it's it's crazy. 76 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 4: How good they are. 77 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: Like another game they won probably shouldn't have won either, 78 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 3: Like that's the game you kind of lose every now 79 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: and then. 80 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: And Drake May playing at such a high level. 81 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: Vrabel just not letting the guys have a letdown game 82 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: pretty impressively. 83 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: Keep winning these games they probably shouldn't be winning. 84 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, look they in the second half, they started the 85 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: second half of the field goal, they're up twenty four 86 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: to fourteen. That's when I started to feel a little 87 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: better because the Falcons did get a stand in that 88 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: first drive where the Patriots went down the field and 89 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: then they did stop them from getting in the end zone, 90 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: forced the field goal. The rest of the game, the 91 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: Patriots were interception and then I think three or four 92 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: punts like they all of a sudden just weren't effective. 93 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know, you know, if you paid attention 94 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: or if you noticed if Drake May definitely wasn't as 95 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: effective as he was in the first half. But it 96 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: also seemed like they got a lot more conservative. They 97 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: were willing to let Atlanta try to get back into 98 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: the game, lean on their defense a little bit more. 99 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez went out of the game at one point. 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: But man, the Patriots in the second half started to 101 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: look like the team that was regressing too closer to 102 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: what we thought they would be. But then they get 103 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: away with the win, and again we put the over 104 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: under on Vrabel and his coaching wins at like two 105 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: and a half. I think he's already at four. Like 106 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: the guy is just pulling rabbits out of the hat, 107 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 108 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And there was a game that Drake May as 109 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: well as he played, right, I think over two hundred 110 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: and fifty yards, two touchdowns. 111 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: He had the killer pick. 112 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he had two funnels and only losing one 113 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: of them. So, like we said, they a lot of 114 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: things they try to give away. Like we talk all 115 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: the time, it's just really hard to be consistent in 116 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: this league and not mixed tupe of mistakes, and they 117 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: still rose above it. It's like you said, Rabel, it's 118 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 3: really impressive what they've done. And like we keep saying, 119 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: they have an easy schedule, but it's hard to win 120 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: these games and they just keep winning. So yeah, it's 121 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: it's pretty wild Patriots being the one seed. It's not 122 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: outside this realm. There's a path for them now. And 123 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: because again they keep winning these games, trap games they 124 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: shouldn't win, they keep winning. That's a really respectful team 125 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: right now in this Patriots team. Have you know, none 126 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: of us are gonna bet them against Mahomes or josh 127 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: anaeler Moore. Still, i'd be really excited if as a 128 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: Patriots fan, you're seeing huge, huge dividends right now, like 129 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: you said in Vrabel and what he brings to the 130 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: table with this team and all the wins he steals 131 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: for you. 132 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers at the Tennessee Titans. I think I 133 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: said three times this week do you know what I'm 134 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: going to say? No, Three times I said this week, 135 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: this is the exact spot when we always play the Chargers. 136 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Entity is the exact spot where they always let us down. 137 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a team in the league this 138 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: year where we are more out of sync with where 139 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: we are betting them the week that they don't cover, 140 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: and we are afraid to bet them the weeks that 141 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: they do cover. This game, their offense, their defense, and 142 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: I think gave up ten points. Yeah, but they gave 143 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: up a pick six on the second play of their 144 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: first drive, and then they gave up a punt return, 145 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: so all of a sudden they're down fourteen to seven. 146 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: They should have killed this team. It shouldn't have even 147 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: been a sweat, and they still had a chance to 148 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: cover at the end of the game and let the 149 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: let the let the Titans sneak in the back door 150 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: the first time the cover. The Titans have learned how 151 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,479 Speaker 1: to sneak through the back door in about two years. 152 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: What what are you kidding me, Simon. 153 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, happens again. 154 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: We knew going into this was a public play. I 155 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: think the most bet on public teams where number one 156 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: was the lines number two Colts, number three Patriots, and 157 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: number four Chargers. 158 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: Number five is the Cowboys. 159 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, we just we said it was a week 160 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: that the public wasn't get hit hard for some reason. 161 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: We have we leaned right into it and thought we 162 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: were smarter than the books, and we got punished. 163 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: Here. Uh, their defense gave up six points, Chad. 164 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: The Tennessee Titans scored twenty total points, so their defense 165 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: is in the game with the Chargers defense, right. 166 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: I was thinking that the second the drive that got 167 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: through the back door, I was thinking it was a 168 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: touchdown and it was a field going. 169 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: But that's just like sums up, it's the bad luck 170 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: we have today. 171 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: That's just why we always talk about we bet these 172 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: ugly dogs, because that's the exact game you dream of. 173 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: Right. 174 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 3: It's Tennessee outplayed in every aspect, had zero business being 175 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 3: in it. Stupid pick six first play, first drop back 176 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: of Herbert just nonchalant threw a pick six his first play, 177 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: and then they have a pun return, like you said, 178 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: fourteen points. I don't know about you, but I still believe, 179 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: because I'm a sucker, that we're going to get out 180 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 3: of it and sell find our way. 181 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: I totally believed, and we were there. We were there. 182 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: We were there after Joe Alt was carted off the field, 183 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: and that was my issue. We were there after Justin 184 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: Herbert was sacked six times by a team that had 185 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: twenty nine sacks total in their previous what is it, 186 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: eight games? Nine games? Eight games, and they were still 187 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: up by ten with four minutes left, and at one point, 188 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: the Chargers went up by ten on a fifteen play, 189 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: ninety nine yard drive in which Justin Herbert realized, dude, 190 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm fucking sick of this. And he had multiple plays 191 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: where he just took the ball and ran and didn't 192 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: even pretend to say it to slide. He's like, I'm six' 193 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: five to forty And i'm going to run people. Over 194 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: and he, leveled just totally trucked a defensive lineman to 195 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: get what was, it like a second and nine or 196 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: something like. That and then later in that drive had 197 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: another drive to convert the first down and scored a rushing. 198 00:10:54,040 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: Touchdown like he's just he just had. It SO i 199 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: totally believed. It they just needed to make one, stop one, STOP. 200 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: I, Know but, again you can't be mad at the. 201 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: Defense they have six points in an entire. Game it's 202 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: just it's what the it's how the books makes their. 203 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: Money, man the. 204 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: Books they knew it was gonna a coin flip come 205 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 3: down to, it AND i honestly thought The chargers was 206 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: gonna absolutely roll and blow them, out and we just 207 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: you can't predict a pick six and a punt return. 208 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 4: Unfortunately SO i. 209 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: Think we had two really really bad bets. TODAY i 210 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: think this game In. HOUSTON i can't get upset about. 211 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: It it's just stupid. Football things just. Happened guys get, 212 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: hurt you, know bounces don't go. Away so, yeah this one. 213 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: Sucks we got we got hooked by the, kick but 214 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: we've been on the other side of that with that 215 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: dog millions of. 216 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: Times so it's just a balancing. Act. 217 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: Here was it a bad bet, though like we we 218 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: got un. Lucky that doesn't make it a bad. 219 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: BET i, SAID i, said we had two bad bets. 220 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 4: Today that was The chiefs In. DETROIT i thought this, 221 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: game AND i thought you. 222 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: SAID i thought you said we had two bad bets 223 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: that were this game And. 224 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: Houston now this one's just, Unlucky LIKE i, said it's 225 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: just what are you gonna? Do gave up those fourteen 226 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: points and still the outside, chance and, they just like you, 227 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: said couldn't get that stop and that late field goal burned. 228 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: Us, yeah all, right let's take a quick break here 229 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: from our friends at Hard. Rock today's show is brought 230 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: to you by our new presenting, sponsor Hard Rock. 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WEEK i was so sure With Brian branch 264 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: And Kirby joseph coming back AND jj, McCarthy who had 265 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: looked terrible and who, knows may have been sitting extra 266 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: weeks because The vikings were worried And Brian flores's rush 267 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: defense hasn't been very good this. Year against a juggernaut rushing, 268 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: offense well that all went to. 269 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: Shit yeah, again another game that just lines whatever it, 270 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: was they just seemed like they never got off the, bus. 271 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: Right it seemed like couldn't get, off couldn't convert their. Jounts, 272 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: yeah and the bikers just came off. 273 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: Line AND i would love to sit here and say 274 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: we UNDERESTIMATED jj McCarthy and he burned. Us let's be. 275 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: Honest it wasn't like this guy was out of this. 276 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: WORLD a lot of this. STUFF i, MEAN i can 277 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: think of a handful of third downs that were thirty 278 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: to ten third and eleven's and he either dumped it 279 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: off or had like a screen down and the running 280 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: back picked up the first down against a. Lion seemed 281 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: that you should know better when it's a young. Quarterback 282 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: And i'm even look at his stats right. Now he 283 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: was fourteen to twenty. Five that's for one hundred and 284 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: forty three, yards two touchdowns and a. PICK i, mean 285 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: that's that should be very beautiful if you're A detroit 286 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: team at. Home and like you, said That floryd's defense 287 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: bad mouthed them as much AS i. 288 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: Did you, know tons of. 289 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: Pressure on golf and like we always talk, about if 290 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: you move him off his, spot he's just not a good. 291 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: Quarterback when he has time and has you, know everything's 292 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 3: working in the, offense he looks very. Smooth but in this, 293 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: game he was never, comfortable and like you, said the 294 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: running game never really got. Going so, yeah bad. Bet 295 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: all around felt dead for the minute the game. Started 296 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: just immediately everything was going The vikings way and This lions, 297 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: team even little things that did go other, way it 298 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: was just never. Consistent like you, said they kept failing 299 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: on third or fourth downs and kept punting a, lot 300 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: so it was just a bad. 301 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: Bet, well look that first, Drive Sam laporta carried you, 302 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: know five people into the end zone from the five 303 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: yard line and they looked. Perfect but then they LET 304 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: jj McCarthy go right down the field and like you, 305 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: said he was fourteen of twenty, five AND i think 306 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: he completed all fourteen of those passes in the first three. 307 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: Drives The lions just they kept beating. Themselves they were 308 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: four of twelve on third downs and one stat to think, 309 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: about they're bottom third in the league in third down 310 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: conversions right. Now they just have not been the same 311 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: team when it comes to getting sort of success letting 312 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: first and second down success get them into position to 313 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: convert on third. Down so that's becoming an issue for. 314 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: Them and, Yeah Brian flor's defense was all Over Jared 315 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: goff the whole. Game every single time he needed to 316 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: get time to make a, throw he had no time 317 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: to make a. Throw and then here was the other. 318 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: ISSUE i think the defense a lot had four or 319 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: five penalties that converted third downs into first downs for The. 320 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: Vikings so they were letting a guy who wasn't playing. Perfectly, 321 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: AGAIN jj McCarthy was fourteen or twenty five for one 322 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: hundred and forty. Three he wasn't a world beater in this. 323 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: Game but they. Won and The lions still had a 324 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: chance to win this, game but they could not convert 325 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: at the. End it's going to be very interesting to 326 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: look at This lion's team and think about how we 327 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: handicap them next. Week becow my head's spinning about. Them 328 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: it's so hard to start thinking about these, games like 329 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: in the two or three hours after the game, ended 330 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: especially after a horrendous, day BECAUSE i want to love 331 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: This lion's, team AND i feel like this was not 332 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: representative of who they. 333 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 4: Are, yeah they just laid it. 334 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: Done two really big duds they laid this year That 335 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 3: divisional gaming and Screen bay week one in this. Game 336 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 3: so it's maybe this is starting to get a pattern 337 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: here on this team we need to be aware. Of 338 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: maybe it is like for some reason let down against divisional. 339 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 4: Foes but, YEAH i don't. 340 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: Know next week that's to be hard to pass on 341 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: that opening line on That lion's. 342 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 4: TEAM i know it. 343 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: IS i was looking ahead to next. Week, yeah AND 344 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: i was already struggling With Oh, god of, course this 345 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: is WHAT i want to. Do denver At Houston houston 346 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: minus one and a, half this was our brass, balls 347 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: and people were wondering why is this our brass? Balls 348 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: because it wasn't an easy bet to, make and the 349 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: entire time during the. Game during the, game That houston, 350 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: defense they were. Outstanding they did everything they could against 351 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: This broncos, team and they were really making Bo nicks. 352 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: Struggle but if you are going to get to the 353 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: thirty five yard line and have six of eight drives 354 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: and inside the thirty five yard, line that is not 355 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: a good. Look so you got to figure out what 356 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: you're doing with your offense because you can't win in 357 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: THE nfl if you're only kicking field. Goals and that's 358 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: what The texans did. 359 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: Today, yeah IT'S i can't take much from, IT. Cj 360 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 3: with fourteen minutes, Left, yeah in the second, quarter and 361 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: Our reid was right right the. Defense it was a 362 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: great matchup for. Them like you, said they played really 363 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: well and. 364 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: We still had a ton of opportunities to win this. 365 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 3: Game With Davis mills and he WAS i don't know 366 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: about how much you watched, him he was, Atrocious like you, 367 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 3: said eighty. 368 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: Seven yards on offense total in the second half of 369 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: The Texans. SIMON i watched every excruciating second of that 370 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: game because you knew the whole time The broncos were 371 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: going to get two, touchdowns like they would figure out 372 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: how to scheme two touchdowns in that, game and THAT 373 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: i just said to myself at one, Point i'm, like 374 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: they just need to convert one of these into a, 375 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: touchdown just, one and they could not do. It and 376 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: if they, had they win that. Game that's. It their 377 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: defense was playing so freaking. 378 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: Good, Yeah and LIKE i, said once he went down 379 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: AND i think the books Reopened houston plus four and 380 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: a half plus three and a, HALF i was just, Like, 381 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: okay they're already telling us now we're we're gonna need 382 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: a miracle to cover this, number and we it just never. 383 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: Came like you, Said, uh you know that fourth quarter 384 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: in magic Bow nicks keeps. Doing it's a real, thing, 385 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 3: right he couldn't do anything and they get eleven points 386 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 3: in that fourth. 387 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 4: Quarter that's that's a big. Time. Uh you, know we 388 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: were hoping for to steal this. 389 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: One but as soon as you went, DOWN i saw 390 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: that line, MOVE i was, like oh, man it's just 391 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: it's just not our. 392 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: Day this is this is just the. 393 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: Terrible spot to be. In we always talk, about like you, 394 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: said the field. Goals it's a new. Age that's why 395 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 3: these teams go for it on fourth and two because 396 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: it's just you're doing nothing kicking all these field goals 397 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: and you, know all these quarter was two touchdowns In. 398 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 4: Denver that was. It, really those are the one two 399 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 4: real drives they had the whole. 400 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: Game, yeah and that's all it. Mattered and that you, 401 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: know last Possession. DENVER i was praying bo with therew 402 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: us a. Pick he had a couple leaving him out, 403 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 3: there and he smartly, REALIZED i just need to use 404 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: my legs in this final, drive and, yeah picked up 405 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: a couple of big first downs and it was just 406 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: over for. Us, so, yeah brutal. Loss but like just 407 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: like That chargers, game bad. Luck IT'S i try TO 408 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: i try not to get too upset about these. ONES 409 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: i get more upset, about like the Horrible riata head 410 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: On detroit to The. Chiefs for this, one it's, like 411 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: what are you going to? Do that's it's why it's. 412 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 3: Gambling you don't want to put too much because injuries 413 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: are a part of the. Game AND i don't know 414 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: if you can think of another. GAME i think it 415 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 3: was our first game this year we really been burned 416 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: by our quarterback anymore in the second. 417 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: Quarter so we've had some good. 418 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: Luck we've been burned by dumb quarterbacks Like Trevor, lawrence 419 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: but we haven't who who haven't had the full access 420 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: of their complete mental. Aptitude but we have not been 421 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: burned by a quarterback just being out of the. Game 422 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: ah and, yeah as soon as that, happened you know 423 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: it was it was a. Bummer and because because The 424 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: texans did everything, right they had The broncos fumble the 425 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: punt with like thirty seconds left in the first, half 426 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: deep in their own, Territory texas kick afield. Goal bonnicks 427 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: throws a pick in his territory after C. J stroud 428 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: is Out texans kick afield. Goal at the end of the, 429 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: game The texans defense two great blitz calls Flush bonnicks 430 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: from the. Pocket he's got nowhere to. Go on second 431 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: and eight and third and, eight they have to punt 432 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: the ball with a minute thirty. Left The texans burn 433 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: thirty seconds on the clock and gain four yards and 434 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: punt the ball back for The broncos to score the 435 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: game winning field. GOAL i will have more on this 436 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: game when it comes to, shame, shame, shame Because i'm 437 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: so disappointed in This texans. Offense whether it WAS. Cj 438 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: shroud Or Davis, MILLS i don't think it's either of their. 439 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: Fault simon foreshadow hint all, right Can't city At Buffalo 440 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: This simon, says we both lean into it pretty. Hard you, 441 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: know in the first, Half Josh allen fifteen of seventeen 442 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: for one hundred and seventy six and One Tuddy Cook 443 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: James cook eleven for sixty. Four on the, Ground King 444 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: kaiden knocks the two tight ends four for one oh 445 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: five and a touchdown in the first. Half and, look 446 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: they completely flum mixed The. Chiefs like, defensively that was the. 447 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: Issue we just didn't think they'd be able to Stop Patrick, 448 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: mahomes who's been playing so. Well and they Stopped Patrick 449 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: mahomes who didn't play well and was at one point 450 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: under fifty percent completion percentage for the first time in 451 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: his career in a game they. 452 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: Struggled this was definitely just felt like A Josh allen. 453 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: Game he took over that first. Staff you, know sons 454 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 3: of doubt about him and his, receivers even if his 455 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 3: receivers doing much, today those tight, ends those steam routes they, 456 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: have that's using the sideline with his tight. 457 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 4: Ends all of it was just working for him. Today 458 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 4: and you, know a game in. 459 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 3: Which you hold The bills to seven points in the second. 460 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 3: Half you expect The chiefs to do what they do 461 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: and come back and win those type of, games but 462 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 3: they couldn't score any points in that third. Quarter they, 463 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 3: got you, know the eight points for you, know giving 464 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: us false hope in that fourth quarter and made it 465 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: a one possession. 466 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 4: Game and it was, there the opportunity was. 467 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: There but you said, It mahomes fifteen to thirty four 468 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 3: for two hundred and fifty yards just not going to 469 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: get the job done, right and that that was a 470 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: game that you, know as people keep, saying and now 471 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: it is true five and. Zero Josh allen against the 472 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: against The chiefs in the regular, season he lies up 473 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 3: to these. Moments he plays bigger for some reals And 474 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: mahomes just. Doesn't and, yeah a, bad, bad bad bad. 475 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: Read that's WHY i was so. Disappointed where it's like 476 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: you just felt in the first, Half it's Like Josh 477 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: allen is just on right. Now, yeah the most telling 478 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 3: sign is, like, AGAIN i didn't give up in the first, 479 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: half but that they get the ball to one with 480 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: whatever that, is thirty seconds. 481 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 4: Left he always scores. Those mahomes always gets. 482 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: That the double up was right there from the score, 483 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 3: there get the ball back to start the second, half 484 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 3: they settle for three again from the one three straight 485 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: players couldn't, score kick a field, goal and then to 486 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 3: start the third quarter to get the ball and they're 487 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: three and. Out so it just wasn't our night with The. 488 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 3: Chiefs and that was just a terrible. Read, AGAIN i 489 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: still think The chiefs are a better, team and you, 490 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: know This bill's, DEFENSE i still have a lot of 491 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: questions about. 492 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 4: It but these are the type. 493 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: Of games where all the bounces went their way And 494 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: Josh allen, was you, know not, perfect but twenty three 495 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 3: of twenty six two rushing, Touchdowns like it's just he 496 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: was really in sync with finding the open, guys not 497 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 3: forcing the downfield and like you, said another game From 498 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: cook one hundred and fourteen, yards it's, just you, know 499 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: When Joe brady's got the run game going like that 500 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: And josh isn't missing. GUYS i can't believe they only 501 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 3: put up twenty eight. POINTS i felt like they could 502 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 3: have rolled This chiefs team and they let us hang. 503 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 3: Around But malmes couldn't steal This from first chat to, 504 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 3: ye that was that was a bad. 505 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 5: Bet, hey this is Producer Matt. Mitchell if you are 506 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 5: new to the, show this is WHERE i jump in 507 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 5: when no one asked me, to and say how about 508 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 5: Those Buffalo Bills and then insert The Josh allen, alarm 509 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 5: much to the delight Of bills fans everywhere and the 510 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 5: chagrin of literally everybody. Else let's hear it For Josh. 511 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 4: Allen baby. 512 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: Alert here For Josh. Allen he's a football. 513 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 5: Player drugs to excuse? Me? Touchdown how many quarterbacks have 514 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 5: you ever seen hurdle? 515 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: Anyone, goodness there's no, fear no. 516 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: Way he was Being todown, going oh my. 517 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 3: God the demands to do something about this album reaches 518 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: man making louder and. 519 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: Louder so The, chiefs with The jaguars, winning are actually 520 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: the currently the eighth seed in the. 521 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 4: A F c. 522 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: Because they're behind The jags and now they've lost four. 523 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: Games so not, Great, jim not, great not great at. 524 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: All now seven and, two The chargers keep, winning The 525 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: colts are ahead of, them The patriots are ahead of, 526 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: them The bills are ahead of. Them not great for 527 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: them right now The steelers are ahead of. Them one 528 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: and four for us, Today simon one and. 529 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 4: Four worst week of the, Year worst. 530 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: Week of the year that. Was you, know you go 531 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: through these years when you do the five every, week 532 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: you just try to avoid the one and. Four we 533 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: got bid a couple of times this. Year we've been, 534 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: close but today we got bid and it stings a little. 535 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: Bit, Yeah like we was talking about the ease that 536 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 3: can see it where old where we're three and two 537 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: and unfortunately we've used up a lot of our luck 538 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: this year and we would do for a one and four. 539 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: Week by the, Way i'm thrilled we got one because 540 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: we could have been oning, Five like we got a 541 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: fourth and two touchdown that could have been, controversial like 542 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: they had to review. It it wasn't a gimme that 543 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: it was a. Touchdown SO i feel very, lucky especially, 544 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: considering you, know we left out The, steelers we left 545 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: out The, panthers and like in place of The, falcons 546 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: we could have been oh to five today just. Easily 547 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: so if that's the, case BECAUSE i like, OPTIMISM i 548 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: feel pretty good about being. Wanted four could have gone 549 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: so much, worse at least twenty percent. Worse. Carolina some 550 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: of the games we left, out let's talk about them. 551 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: Quickly carolina At Green, bay what's wrong with, Us like 552 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: we knew all week this was not this was too 553 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: big of a. Number we should be playing. This how 554 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: did we not make? This how were we not both 555 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: more insistent about? This and why wasn't this replacing something? 556 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 4: ELSE i, MEAN i thought we did to give me 557 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 4: a minute our hard rock. 558 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: Bet, yeah but we should have put in the. Contest 559 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: we could have been more. Forceful like we love The, 560 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: Panthers we Like Bryce young coming. Back we knew last 561 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: week was an. Anomaly like, yeah like The, packers we 562 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: played well for twenty minutes last week and all of a, 563 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: sudden their thirteen point, Favorites, like we just missed. 564 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 3: It, YEAH i Got i'm not gonna beat ourselves off about. It, 565 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: uh we were going to take Out pittsburgh Or. Atlanta 566 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: so it's like we were just we were never gonna 567 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: avoid this owned. Four we just for some reason we 568 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 3: were stuck on those four. Games we loved them Since 569 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: tuesday and, yeah horrible. Reads LIKE i, said we talked 570 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 3: it was a trap, week and we took four favorites 571 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: even though we had red flags about three of them 572 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: that we knew were. Suspicious we took them, Anyway so 573 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 3: that's All i'm gonna own. It you're not the, Professionally 574 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: i'm the guy that's LIKE i kept trying to avoid these, 575 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 3: traps AND i walked us right into three of, them and, 576 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 3: LIKE i felt like such an. Idiot even once that 577 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: game's kicked, off it's, like what HAVE i? Done because 578 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: this is not where we should be on these. Spots 579 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 3: we should have taken these ugly. Dogs but, yeah this. 580 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: Game you, know as MUCH i want to, SAY i 581 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 3: read this one, RIGHT i really thought this was gonna 582 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: be kind of a shootout and it was the total. 583 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 3: Opposite Green bay just totally stuck in the. MUD i, 584 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: Mean Bryce, young what did He i'd have to look it. 585 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: UP i think he had eleven completions for one hundred 586 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: yards chat no. Joke and it felt like The Carolina panthers, 587 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: Dominated like their defense played so, well you, know their 588 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 3: run game of This panthers, Team like we, Said Rico 589 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: daddle now he's their number one, back one hundred and 590 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: thirty yards, rushing two, touchdowns absolute difference. Maker they just 591 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: totally all controlled this, game never Let Green bay get in. 592 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: Rhythm you, Know Jordan, love he has these weird games 593 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: where he just does really stupid, things throwing off his 594 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 3: back foot and trying to do too. Much and you 595 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 3: see it if he plays it within the floor's, offense 596 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: it looks. Incredible once he steps out has to do 597 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: his own. Things it's not like his first. YEAR i 598 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: remember his first, year he was perfect at it, right 599 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 3: he'd always make the right decision when you. 600 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: Go outside the. 601 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 3: Play these last couple of, years you just see these 602 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: dumb turnovers and you, know the game it did feel 603 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 3: like it had this vibe of The Green bay was 604 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: going to figure out and steal this. Game but like you, 605 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: said we were, never never going to not cover that, number. 606 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 4: Like that was way too. 607 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: Inflated and the fact That panthers wanted out, Right i'm 608 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 3: sure you're the. Same but where that's stun where it's, 609 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: like we love this, team we read it, Right how 610 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: did we not have them no moneyliner On robin and 611 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 3: how do we not hanmer this one? 612 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 4: More But i'm glad at least this morning we were 613 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 4: smart enough to. 614 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: Agree we both liked. It that's why we gave it. 615 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 3: Out it was a one game we didn't fight. On 616 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: we totally agreed. On and, yeah the only negative is 617 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: if it was thirteen and a. Half there's a world 618 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: where maybe we do take out The chargers because you 619 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 3: know it was a nine and a half or. Whatever 620 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: just you, Know i'm trying to a low to myself 621 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 3: thinking we could have gotten. 622 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: There BUT i don't think it's a bad. Mess we 623 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: were never avoiding. It there's no way we were not 624 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: on those four games. Today but, yeah that's a. Bummer. 625 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: Uh speaking of, bummer, boy DID i love The Jacksonville 626 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: jaguars this? Week and YEAH i. DID i don't, KNOW 627 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: i don't know if we talked about. That and you, 628 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: know they converted A this is this is. Classic jacks 629 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: converted a fourth and short inside their five yard line 630 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: ON i think their first drive of the. Game, yeah next, 631 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: play pre snap, Penalty next, Play Trevor lawrence. Pick he 632 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: ignored what is supposed to happen on the, play which 633 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: is a shovel. Pass it was wide open with blockers 634 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: in front of, him a little two yard. Shovel he 635 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: held it instead threw it into the end zone into 636 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: any one of three raiders could have picked it, off 637 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: and that's what. Happened the rest of the that first 638 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: half was a clunker Until Cam little hit that sixty 639 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: eight year field goal and then in the second half 640 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: in overtime they scored what was it about fifty points. 641 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: Combined This jacks, team Like Trevor lawrence is just the fucking. 642 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: Worst is just like they're never gonna win anything with. 643 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: Him he truly kills them in every single, game every. 644 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 3: Game, yeah but again it's a game that they probably 645 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 3: shouldn't have, won and they kind of stole because their 646 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: kicker hit or they. 647 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: Should have won it four different, times but they. Couldn't 648 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: they then they couldn't stop. Anybody the second half was 649 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: like a track. 650 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 3: Mate, YEAH i JUST i can't get over the fact 651 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 3: that kicker made that kick and like this that's. 652 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 4: The league where we're living in. Now BUT i KNOW 653 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 4: i hated that. 654 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 3: Game didn't want to be on The, Raiders LIKE i 655 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 3: knew a really smart group had taken that position early 656 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: on That raiders, team AND i just tried to warn 657 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 3: us off of it because it's, like what are they 658 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 3: seeing That i'm not? 659 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 4: Seeing BECAUSE i was total agreeing with. 660 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 3: You it's Like Gino smith is a, Corpse like how 661 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 3: are they going to keep. 662 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 4: Up with this? 663 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 3: Offense and it seems like the answer is pretty simple 664 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: it's a guy Named. 665 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 4: Rock, yeah twelve, catch. 666 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 3: Twenty seven, yards three, touchdowns just ultimate game. CHANGER i 667 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 3: think the biggest hat tip you can get in all 668 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 3: professional football is after the. Draft if you Hear sean 669 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 3: McVay was trying to trade up to your draft spot. 670 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 4: To take the guy you, took and like all you. 671 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: Heard all that whole before his rookie year was That 672 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 3: sean McVay loved this, Guy Brock bowers and obviously set 673 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 3: that rookie, record you, know came back totally dominated this, 674 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 3: game and, yeah a Game i'm just probably. AVOIDED I 675 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 3: i took The, raiders but it's LIKE i hated. 676 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 4: IT i didn't want to watch. 677 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 3: It, unfortunately there's only three late games, today SO i 678 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 3: had to watch this. Game but, man even even in 679 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 3: games they should, steal they still they couldn't get that 680 00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 3: two pointer and steal this. 681 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 4: Game there's just total total train wreck of a season 682 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 4: for The. 683 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: Raiders and, yeah a week where all the worst teams 684 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 3: Covered tennessee covers this team covers The. 685 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 4: Raiders it's it just that's how goes THE. 686 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 3: Nfl, right there's no teams or Like tennessee that year 687 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 3: they went was it one fifteen or one in sixteen 688 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 3: against the. 689 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 4: Spread bad teams cover ugly. Spreads, well they. 690 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: Had been been going really. Bad let's talk about The 691 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: Chicago bears for a, second because Geez, LUISE i think 692 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: they had like two hundred and sixty yards rushing today 693 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: and anytime they run the, ball they team to do, 694 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: really really. Well and they seem to be, winning not 695 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: because Of Kayleb william despite that play at the end 696 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: of the. Game they're certainly not winning because of their 697 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: defense When Joe flacco was thrown for four hundred and 698 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: seventy seventy. YARDS i don't know how to take it 699 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: with this. Team i'm wearing My, bears you, know My 700 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: bear shirt today BECAUSE i love. Them BUT i feel 701 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: like they do everything wrong and somehow they're getting lucky 702 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: with so many games this. Year that was a train 703 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: wreck of a. 704 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 3: Game, yeah you're just tough once, Again like you, Said, 705 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 3: caleb he's. Inconsistent but you see these little moments where you're, 706 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 3: like this is why this guy is number one. 707 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: Pick it's just Dude lawrence With Trevor. Lawrence these little 708 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: moments and you see why the guy was the number one. 709 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: Pick but that's not how you win a Super. 710 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 4: Bowl it's. 711 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 3: Not but you're not looking for a Super, bowl and 712 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 3: why you keep you should even mention Super. 713 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 4: Bowl FOR i want a Super? 714 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 3: Bowl WELL i got some bad stories where you got. 715 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 3: It if you want to pop in YOUR vhs watch 716 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 3: your Super. Bowl but right, now, brother this this, team 717 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 3: it's just one of even mention, It. 718 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 4: Caleb it's all about growing in the. 719 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 3: Offense but like you keep talking, about your head coach 720 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 3: is the reason you guys keep winning these. Games you 721 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 3: have no business of winning your run. GAME i, mean 722 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: what was that GUY i came pronounced the. 723 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 4: Guy's, name The Kyle. 724 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 3: MENINGE i, mean out of this world one hundred and 725 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 3: seventy six yards. Rushing your whole team is a. Unit 726 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 3: we're averaging seventy point six yards per. CARRY i love, 727 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 3: Too just again A Ben johnson's that you had five 728 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 3: different uh, no four different guys have a pass in this. 729 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 4: Game you had a tight end. 730 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 3: Throw the, ball you HAD Dj moore, throwball and you 731 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 3: had your backup quarterback throw a. Ball so it's just, 732 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 3: Madness like everything about him is just. Madness AND. 733 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: I don't. 734 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 3: KNOW i love those type of games because they stole 735 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 3: it and they covered for you like you. 736 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 4: Had, yeah The flacco had no business bringing it. 737 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 3: Back what do you throw for four hundred and fifty 738 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 3: yards or four undred seventy yards four Seventy. 739 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 4: Yeah like, Again i'm the number One joe bro. HATER 740 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 4: i had the. 741 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 3: Guy only person In america had him at ranked number 742 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 3: six in my top ten, quarterbacks AND i might even 743 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: bump him down next. 744 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 4: Year like What flaco is doing with this guy's. 745 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 3: WEAPONS i mean, THIS i feel like this might a 746 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 3: lesson to all of, Us, like don't pay if you're 747 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 3: gonna pay your number one, receiver your number two receiver 748 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 3: or studs crazy, money go get Like Sam. 749 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 4: Darnold don't pay your quarterback crazy. 750 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 3: Money because half of these Throws Joe flack was making 751 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 3: he has no business. Completing it's just raw talent by 752 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 3: T higgins and these other. Pieces so, again as embarrass, 753 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 3: FAN i try to be positive the fact That loveland 754 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 3: was the one who showed up in this game Where 755 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: cincinnati is by far the worst team of football graded 756 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 3: wise against tight, ends and everybody in the world THAT 757 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 3: i know in the fantasy football community was all Over 758 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 3: loveland anytime. Touchdown that was the second touchdown that one 759 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 3: to break at the end of that. Game, so, yeah you, 760 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 3: KNOW i get where you're coming. From caleb's not doing 761 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 3: everything perfect because he's still stupid and makes dumb decisions. 762 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 3: Consistently BUT i just how do you not get? Excited 763 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 3: you went from having the loser of losers and justin 764 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 3: fields and a joke of a head coach to a 765 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 3: quarterback that did make a drive of the game when 766 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 3: all hope was, Lost like that was a big boy. Drive, 767 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 3: like let's be, honest, man you're He's he was sitting 768 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 3: on the bench for about forty minutes Watching Joe flacco 769 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: put up fourteen points and get onside kicks and god knows, 770 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 3: what and he came out there and his one, opportunity 771 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 3: made a couple of big throws and had a couple 772 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 3: of big scrambles and got you got those. 773 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 4: Wins SO i get where you're coming. 774 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 3: From BUT i feel like you should be happy you 775 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 3: got your money in the cover THAT i thought was 776 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 3: dead of. Dead AND i Told chad before the this, 777 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,720 Speaker 3: MORNING i told Him i'd catched out my bear's side 778 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 3: BECAUSE i just don't trust their. Defense incredible in a 779 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 3: day in which you give up forty two. Points you guys. 780 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 3: WON i JUST i don't. Know i'm starting to like 781 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 3: The bears slowly bec one of my favorite. Teams you 782 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 3: guys have so many games this year you just steal 783 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 3: because your coach. 784 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 4: Is just such a. Genius SO i can't get over. 785 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 4: It what a win for The. 786 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: Bears all, right before we get to our leads and 787 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: some questions and comments from the people watching right, now 788 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: one more or, quickly rab Rab Mike, Tomlin rah rah rah. 789 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 1: Rah it's the game we thought they would have last, 790 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: week The steelers keeping the game, close taking advantage of. 791 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: Turnovers Daniel jones finally comes back down to earth a little. 792 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: Bit it was never a. Sweat they were up seventeen 793 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: to seven at the end of the first. Half they 794 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: ended up. 795 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 4: Winning you, said just came down a little, bit a little. 796 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 4: Bit did you see his stats? 797 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: Today, well he threw a, pick that's ALL i care about. 798 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 3: It even, better he threw three, Picks, cheff and he 799 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 3: had Three he had three, fumbles two for. 800 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: Loss so he came back down to. 801 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 4: Earth is that not an incredible stat? 802 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: Line it's it's it's great if you like The steelers. 803 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: Today exactly WHAT i just can't get. 804 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 3: Over it's like we knew he was gonna have a 805 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 3: day where he just blew. Up but that's, epic epic 806 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 3: meltdown type of game. 807 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 4: That's on top of y'all blinking though real, no, no, no. Gosh, 808 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 4: Well i'll talk to you about, It. 809 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: Simon are you ready for this week's shame on? You, shame, 810 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: shame shame? It texans offensive Coordinator Nick, cally. 811 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 5: Same on. 812 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: You first drive inside the ten yard, line they start 813 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: with a. Penalty three straight rush plays for zero yards 814 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: from the one yard, line and then a penalty leads 815 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: to a field. Goal second, drive after an interception of 816 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: bow knicks at, midfield they're at the two yard. Line 817 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: they go rush for no, yards, penalty rush for one, 818 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: yard sack from the seventeen yard. Line on a third, 819 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: down they get sacked for four, yards have to kick 820 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: a field. Goal they had something like twelve, thirteen, fourteen 821 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: fifteen plays inside the red zone, today including multiple plays 822 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: inside the two yard, line and went backwards more often 823 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: than they went. Forwards there is a lack of, imagination 824 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: a lack of, execution a lack of understanding of your 825 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: personnel in That texans locker room when it comes to 826 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: running and executing inside not even the red, zone inside 827 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: the five yard, line which is why we lost our 828 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: bet today thanks To texans offensive Coordinator Nick kelly for. 829 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 4: My shame on, You i'll definitely go with myself. 830 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: Outside same same SAME. 831 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 3: I JUST i knew coming the week as a trap, 832 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 3: week and allow you ask all the time about. This 833 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 3: it's not only That i'm seeing the. Lines it's again 834 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 3: my life were like especially, TODAY i should have went 835 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 3: to WHEN i got to the sportsbook this, MORNING i 836 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 3: should changed all our bets any Given sunday WHEN i 837 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 3: go to the, book especially after like this next, week 838 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 3: it will be Empty sunday morning next. 839 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 4: Week these past two, weeks it was packed to the. 840 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,399 Speaker 3: Gills everybody in the world had money and was at 841 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 3: the book this week because the public had been. Winning 842 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 3: AND i Told CHAD i saw that top four that 843 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 3: we were, on literally the four biggest public sides ticket, 844 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 3: wise AND i was just, like oh my, god AM 845 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 3: i walking us right into? 846 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 4: It AND i just couldn't have wit. 847 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 3: It it's like being in a bad dream that you 848 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 3: know what's about to, happen but you cannot control. It 849 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 3: it is truly the worst feeling is it? Better so 850 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 3: it's definitely on. ME i should have helped us avoid, 851 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 3: it at least switched out one of those truck. FAVORITES 852 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 3: i can't believe looking. BACK i let us Put chargers 853 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 3: And detroit and these two huge chalk bards that we 854 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 3: always are on the other side of, it and we 855 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 3: walked right into. It so shame on. Me JUST i 856 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 3: gotta be. BETTER i will be better. People i'm not 857 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,959 Speaker 3: gonna give you A Tim tebow. Moment we will lose, 858 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 3: again but next week we'll bounce. BACK i just embarrassing 859 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 3: on my part this. 860 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: Week who's your? 861 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 3: Hero my, Hero it's gotta Be. Chad Chad's Atlanta. Falcons 862 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 3: you saved the. Dad we were, like if we talk 863 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 3: about we were gonna get that win that we could have. 864 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 3: Got we could have got in there With. Pitch we're 865 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 3: cutting in the Other. Carolina but you were so dugging on. 866 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 3: It and LIKE i told, YOU i never get tons 867 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 3: of pros coming up to me being like you're missing 868 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 3: the mark here and chat a spot on it where 869 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 3: it's like got to the point of being, like holy, 870 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 3: SHIT i GUESS i have to Take. 871 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 4: Atlanta AND i told you before and even if it. 872 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 3: LOST i wasn't gonna give you zero shit BECAUSE i was, 873 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 3: like these guys are literally boiling me into, this like 874 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 3: they're telling me gotta get this, one and this is 875 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 3: the spot of spots with this, team and like, you 876 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 3: just like you, said when it came down to fourth and, 877 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 3: two one handed catch By Drake, LONDON i was just, 878 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 3: like so why these guys are? 879 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 4: Pros they just know just play. 880 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 3: The, number doesn't matter how you get, there as long 881 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 3: as you get there and you get to the. Windows so, 882 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 3: yeah here of the, Week Chad, Money, Melvin, oh that's so. 883 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: Sweet my hero is Actually Drake, london who three touchdowns, 884 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: today the touchdown that got us the. Cover but he 885 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 1: also was just making every single play when they needed a. 886 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,919 Speaker 1: Catch and when we talked about this game all, week 887 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: we talked about The falcons being different when they Had 888 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: Drake london in the game more Than Michael, pennix and 889 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: he was clearly the difference in keeping this game close 890 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 1: because every Time pennix needed a, bailout a key third, 891 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: down the drives at the end of the, game he 892 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: had a great sideline. Catch it was Always Drake. London 893 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: Drake London Drake london making the play that we needed 894 00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: for our one and only win on the, Day simon, 895 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: says Was Kansas city minus one and a, Half BIG 896 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: L chad's, Choice detroit minus eight and a, Half Big 897 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 1: al Brass, Balls houston minus one and a, Half BIG 898 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 1: L rock in a hard, Place carolina plus. Thirteen, Yay 899 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: sharp Versus. SQUARE i had The, jags you at The 900 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: chargers were both. Losers this sucks. 901 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 3: And it's, horseshit But i'm too polite to say anything 902 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 3: Because i'm a class. 903 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: Act our favorite Parlay Kansas CITY, L HOUSTON L chargers, 904 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 1: One DETROIT L jags, one Underdog pittsburgh, One atlanta, Loss buffalo, 905 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: One giants, Loss broncos. One we're gonna be better about 906 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: not having teams on both. Sides we're gonna have to 907 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: figure out what that. 908 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 4: Is that was nice. 909 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 3: Today that was my rare win WHERE i faded ourselves 910 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 3: and it worked out for. 911 00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: Me good for. Us All, right people want to know right, 912 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: now they're in the. Chat they want to know who 913 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: do we think are our Two Super bowl? Teams now 914 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: that we are heading Into week. Ten it feels like 915 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: way premature to be talking about that because that is 916 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: just there's so much to, Discover like next week we 917 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: could be we could be back on The. Chiefs in two, 918 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: WEEKS i could be in love with The. Bears like 919 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: it's hard to. Know at this. POINT i DON'T i 920 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 1: don't Buy. Denver you, know it could be The ravens 921 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: in four. Weeks. 922 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah If i'm going to still go With Super bowl 923 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 3: teams THAT i actually think can get there for, REAL, Afc, Chiefs, 924 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,800 Speaker 3: bills If. 925 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 4: Lamar's, right those are those are the three and. 926 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 3: Anyone, ELSE i have my, doubts AND i will fade 927 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 3: and take a position against you, know, Football we're due 928 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 3: for a fluki team to come out OF. 929 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 4: Afc it's been a long. 930 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 3: Time it feels LIKE i just at the end of the, 931 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 3: day The chiefs just played such a high. Level AND 932 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 3: i know you joked a little bit about like what 933 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 3: if they've done in their division that honestly changes doesn't 934 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 3: change my, opinion. 935 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 4: Doll like people don't. 936 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 3: Understand they went To buffalo with one of the WORST 937 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 3: creatd Teams i've ever had and beat a Stacked bills, 938 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 3: team and then one of the road and beat A 939 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 3: Lamar jackson team that was also, Stacked like they've they've 940 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 3: gone on the road and done that before to get 941 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 3: to a Super bowl and won That Super. 942 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 4: Bowl so, yeah there was a team that jump out 943 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 4: from THE AFC. 944 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 3: NFC i feel Like i'm just dug in on it 945 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 3: WHERE i still think It's eagles And, rams just the 946 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 3: two teams with the quarterbacks that have been, there done, 947 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 3: that AND i trust them in high leverage. Situations where 948 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 3: CAN i get there On seattle On Sam? Darnold it's 949 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 3: gonna be hard for, me, people, honestly CAN i get 950 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 3: there On Green? 951 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 4: Bay jordan Of? Love same? 952 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 3: Thing the only ONE i could see outside getting into 953 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 3: this group is The. Bucks like The, bucks they've historically 954 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 3: owned This eagles. TEAM i know this year The eagles beat, 955 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 3: them but again this is just a banged Up if 956 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 3: they get right and they keep winning, GAMES i could 957 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 3: see them moving into a group with That eagles, team 958 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 3: That rams. 959 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 4: Team that you. 960 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 3: KNOW i just all these other teams on the, outside 961 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 3: just Like, detroit like we Love. DETROIT i just it's 962 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 3: gonna be hard for me to ever Trust golf in 963 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 3: the playoffs where you've seen him kind of lay eggs 964 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 3: a couple. 965 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 4: Times in his. Career so, yeah like you said it is, 966 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 4: early but. 967 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 3: It just feels, like of all these teams to get, 968 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 3: RIGHT i just if The bucks get healthy in THE, 969 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 3: NFC i could see them being being a really tough 970 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 3: out later in the, season where right now we're just undervalued. 971 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,919 Speaker 3: Them right they're just so banged, up so. Injured it's 972 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 3: just it's hard to really think The bucks could be 973 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 3: in the Super bowl at some. Point BUT i think 974 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 3: once they get, right they could be one of those. 975 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: Teams two favorites one today The San francisco forty nine. 976 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: Ers they beat The giants by. Ten they were two 977 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: and a half point favorites Any Los Angeles rams to your, 978 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 1: point they were fourteen point favorites at home against The. 979 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: Saints this game got to twenty to ten and then 980 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: The rams poured in two more. Touchdowns they won thirty 981 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: four to. Ten so of all the teams that avoided 982 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: the trap that we're in a trap, spot The rams 983 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: are the only ones that stood and delivered against a, 984 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: really really big. Number so good for, them which is 985 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: to your point about why people are so excited about 986 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: The rams or should be thinking about, them because they. 987 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: Are it's like they're doing. It they're THEY'RE i don't 988 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 1: think they're getting discussed enough as a dominant team in 989 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,280 Speaker 1: THE nfc right. Now it feels like it's all happening 990 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: kind of under the. Radar let's talk early leans For week. 991 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: Ten the first game you AND i discussed that we 992 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: thought was going to be really hard to ignore Was 993 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: detroit is a three and a half now three point 994 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: favorite At. 995 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 3: Washington, YEAH i can't believe that's that's where they opened that. 996 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 3: At and this could just be me missing the mark 997 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 3: with This washington because you know they're down to two 998 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 3: and a half at a lot of books tonight against The. 999 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 1: Seahawks see what happens when they kick. 1000 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 3: Off interesting that they would open this on minus, three 1001 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 3: like they know they're gonna get a ton of public 1002 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 3: money This lions. Team, so like you, Said i'm going 1003 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 3: to grab it just now BECAUSE i do think it 1004 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 3: will move. UP i mean it's minus one twenty at most, 1005 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 3: books so you know it's not the greatest number to 1006 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 3: be betten, into BUT i still think it's a key, 1007 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 3: number So i'll grab it out even though we both 1008 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 3: know this is definite gonna be the public side of 1009 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 3: this upcoming. 1010 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 4: Week. 1011 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: Uh The Baltimore ravens right now are three and a 1012 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 1: half point favorites At. Minnesota that one also stands out 1013 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: to me BECAUSE i don't jj McCarthy just wasn't great. 1014 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: Today he made good plays when he had to make good. 1015 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: Plays and The ravens, defense what are we going to? Get? 1016 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: Like are they the team that no problem against a 1017 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,479 Speaker 1: Terrible miami? Team did they improve like they did last 1018 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: year coming off of the bye? Week that's the wild 1019 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: card to. Me but, this to me feels like a 1020 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: better team than The. Vikings. 1021 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah and also it's a weird, Line like you just, 1022 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,479 Speaker 3: said where you can get there's minus three's out there 1023 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 3: hard rock And jeers right now is minus three minus one. 1024 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 4: Twenty SO i Know i'm trying, Again i'm trying to 1025 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 4: not do WHAT i just did last week and take all 1026 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 4: these ye road. 1027 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 3: Favorites but my, god that's that feels like an insane 1028 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 3: line to open. With like This ravens, team we've seen. 1029 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 3: It when they get, going they. Dominate AND i don't 1030 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 3: want to overreact to A vikings team that did stop 1031 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 3: the run last week Against, detroit where we've seen them 1032 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 3: be one of the worst run defensive on, Football so 1033 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 3: Maybe i'm missing. It And i'll learn more this week 1034 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,439 Speaker 3: about what The vikings. Did i'll watch the tap about 1035 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,800 Speaker 3: the adjustments they. Made but this feels like a great Play, 1036 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,280 Speaker 3: lamar who historically is this absolutely DOMINATED nfc. 1037 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 4: Team So i'm with. 1038 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 3: You if you can get it minus through right how hard, 1039 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 3: Rock i'm gonna grab that early line. 1040 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: Two more THAT i am pinpointing right. NOW i hate 1041 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: to say. It San francisco forty nine or three point 1042 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: dogs at home against The. 1043 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 4: Rams, Yeah i'm not going to bet. It i'll wait 1044 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:24,760 Speaker 4: and see THE qb. 1045 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 3: Is even Though Mac jones you played really well again, Today. 1046 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,399 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's gonna be a prock. Party that's WHY 1047 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: i assume so to lead into the three right. 1048 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:34,919 Speaker 4: Now But i've assumed. 1049 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 3: He was gonna be back chatter for about three weeks. Now, 1050 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 3: yeah And i'm starting to learning these are these Are 1051 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 3: mac lines because they keep hanging these numbers like this. 1052 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 3: WEEK i thought all week the number was two and 1053 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 3: a half because it was, like, oh, pretty we'll be, 1054 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 3: back and he never. Was he was never really, good 1055 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 3: even like talked about coming. Back so you're, again you're. 1056 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 3: Right it's another spot like we just talked about three 1057 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 3: straight games where it's three straight road favorites should just 1058 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 3: open them on minus three and letting the professionals. DECIDE 1059 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 3: i think the pros are going to join you here 1060 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 3: on this Forty nineers team Shut SO i won't take 1061 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 3: a take a position on it, yet BUT i do 1062 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 3: see the professionals coming to the forty niners early. 1063 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: Year last one for me Is pittsburgh plus three and 1064 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: a half on the road against The. Chargers this offensive, 1065 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: Line Joe watt was carted. Off they lost two other 1066 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: guys during the, Game, like how are they gonna Protect Justin? 1067 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:31,359 Speaker 4: Herbert that's, true that is. 1068 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: True that's the game to, Me it's not even About 1069 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: Ryra Mike. Tomlin it's just they can't Protect Justin. 1070 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 3: HERBERT i know This pittsburgh, team, though is so bad 1071 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 3: in so many different. Ways like we talked, about they 1072 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 3: had five turnovers today and they won't buy a. 1073 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 4: Touchdown SO. 1074 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 3: I, mean you are you're just betting On tomlin as a, 1075 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 3: dog AND i agree with you that when j'all all went, 1076 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 3: OUT i know he did drive like you, said he 1077 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 3: drove the Field herbert to give us one more, touchdown 1078 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 3: but he had NEVER i mean amount of pressure in 1079 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 3: his face from A d line that has no guys 1080 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 3: that can really get. Pressure so, yeah this maybe this, 1081 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 3: is like you, said another spot WHERE i just got 1082 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 3: to hold my, nose Trust tomlin and the number and 1083 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 3: just back. That that's good matchup for, them but their 1084 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 3: secondary is gonna have real issues against what you, know 1085 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 3: This herbert offense can do right the passing. ATTACK i, 1086 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 3: Mean lati mcconkae had a couple of really bad, drops 1087 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 3: but although the shears just are so in sync right. 1088 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 3: Now so, YEAH i don't hate your early read. 1089 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: There what else are you looking? At? 1090 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 4: Uh just ones that jumped. 1091 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 3: OUT I i, MEAN i don't want to do, it 1092 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 3: BUT i feel like we have To dampa after a 1093 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 3: bye week minus two and a half at home against The. 1094 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 3: PATRIOTS i have to grab that, now DON'T. I that's, 1095 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 3: yeah that feels like that's that's a number that can 1096 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 3: easily move. Up i'm not. Gonna i'm not, gonna you, 1097 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 3: know tell people they have to be betting This caroline 1098 00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 3: is only minus five and a. Half they've opened my 1099 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 3: five and a. Half, NOW i think the public comes 1100 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 3: in and that number goes up like it's That saints 1101 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 3: offense as bad as they look today and the rookie 1102 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 3: did on the, road it's bad Spots like he was 1103 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 3: his first starts on the road against a really Tough rams. 1104 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 3: Team now he's on the road Against caroline team that 1105 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 3: just plays better at. 1106 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 4: Home like that last week we talked about that was 1107 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 4: a total. Fluke that was An Andy dolton just total disaster. 1108 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 3: GAME i Think Bryce shrunk will bounce back and have 1109 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 3: a much better game than he did the week before 1110 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 3: against his Bad saints. Defense AND i just liked that 1111 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 3: that's that's under the key number of six really early 1112 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 3: here in the. Week uh are we are we just 1113 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 3: a Back atlanta? Again atlanta's plus six and a half 1114 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 3: against the cold. Team it's, indoors it's. Indoors, Yeah like 1115 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 3: it feels like this is the exact spot we're supposed 1116 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 3: to back This atlanta. 1117 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 4: Team So i'm gonna grab that early, here even IF 1118 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 4: i want to change my position later on. 1119 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,919 Speaker 3: MORE i look into this, one BUT i can't see 1120 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 3: my model having The colts to a seven point. Favorite 1121 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 3: like there again we talked that they are, good but 1122 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 3: their defensive. Suspect they have major questions about the secondary 1123 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 3: And Daniel jones bounce back spot, yeah of course he 1124 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 3: should bounce back, here BUT i don't. Know it feels 1125 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,919 Speaker 3: like a very still an inflated. Line and the fact 1126 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 3: that you can get six and a half such a key. 1127 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 3: Number i'll grab that earli here and my last one 1128 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 3: before you get out of. Here just can't help. MYSELF 1129 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 3: i hate it because it's going against my own, Team. 1130 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 3: Eagles you can get minus two and a half on 1131 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 3: Green bay right, NOW. 1132 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 4: I think that's that's a pretty good. 1133 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 3: Value i'm interested to the professionals do if the pros 1134 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 3: will come in with the public and hit that. Line 1135 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 3: i'm interested if that's that's what the possibility is. Here oh, 1136 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 3: yeah you're right That Atlanta colts games In. GERMANY i 1137 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 3: BELIEVE i could be, wrong but, no you. 1138 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: Are that's. Right that's, right. 1139 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 4: It's, international, Right, okay that makes more. SENSE i, MEAN 1140 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 4: i already bet, it So i'm already dugging on. 1141 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 3: It but, yeah before we get out of, here Just 1142 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 3: i'm interested with the pros do with That eagles. LINE 1143 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 3: i feel like that's a very tempting to the. Public 1144 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 3: gonna be a very public. Dog eagles plus two and a, 1145 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 3: half And i'm gonna grab The Green bay just in 1146 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 3: case it does go up to. 1147 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 1: Three all, right we will dig in a little bit, 1148 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: more a lot more On tuesday. Again our one win 1149 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: today The Atlanta falcons plus five and a. Half we 1150 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 1: lost with The chiefs minus one and a, half The 1151 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 1: texas minus one and a, half The chargers minus nine 1152 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 1: and a, half and The lions minus eight and a. 1153 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Half you know, What, simon we get what we, deserve 1154 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: and that's what we deserve. 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