1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. I'm Ben Higgins with my co 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: host Ashley I or Ashley I Connetti, but basically Ashley 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: I forever and always. You know, I used to be 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Ben h Yeah because there's ben Z on your season. Yeah, 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: but I feel like you kind of make it when 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: you can drop the first letter of your last name. 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: So now I'm just known as Ben and we are 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: on the Almost Famous podcast. Hey, there we go. That's cool, right, Yeah, 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: we have an ovation. We are excited to be with 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: you today. Um. You know, going throughout this whole podcast, 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Ashley and I are going to touch a lot of topics. 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: But today especially we're going to talk about the Bachelorette, 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: of course, because you know who better to hear opinions 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: on a Bachelor franchise show than the two of us. 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the weirdest moments from last night, 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: moments that made us cringe, especially me cringe. I think 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: I've said this many times. Even being on the Bachelor 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: and watching it back, there are moments where I just 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: want to hide my eyeballs and throw my face into 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: a pillow like a little kid. I have absolutely no 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: idea what he's referring to about himself, because I'm the 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: one who watches and cringes, and there's a reason for 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: me to cringe. But you never did anything on the 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: show that was cringeworthy. Some would disagree, actually, but one 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: incident the to start things out, Actually want to hear 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: your thoughts. What was the weirdest moments here last night? Well, 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: I guess the boom guy. That's why I like that 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: you said that because down Yeah, I don't know, I 30 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: don't know, like if people are listening, really want to 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: hear the full exaggeration that. Um, I've actually had an 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: interaction with the waboom guy, and so has Jared. And 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna call Jared later and maybe you 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: guys can discuss that in depth. But what what do 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: you want to tell right now? I don't want to 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: tell anything right now. Actually, I think we're gonna talk 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: about that a little later. UM, I might have to 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: talk to Jared about it. I'm excited to here kind 39 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: of Jared reaction because I have my own personal opinion 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: and feelings coming off that conversation. Wait, I'm just remembering this. 41 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: I got a d M. He slid into my d 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: M s Lucas while Boom guy and I didn't open 43 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: it because I didn't want him to see that I 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: opened it. Let's open it now, Okay, let's do it. No, 45 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Why Ashley's opening up her d M 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: because it's gonna take a while to slide through all 47 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: of the d M she gets in the course of 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: the day. Um, I want to talk about some of 49 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: my cringe worthy moments from last night. I found it. 50 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: Oh well, I don't. Then it's quite simple. What up? 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: Ashley dot dot dot loved you on Batch in b 52 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: I p fun to watch. I'll be on this season 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: with Rachel quite the journey, hope all as well. I mean, 54 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: it's sweet, that was nice the thumbs up and a 55 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: dancing girl emoji. It's not a bad kind of strategy 56 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: right now. I don't know how long Lucas makes it 57 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: after last night. I'm not gonna imagine that he's gonna 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: make it too long, and so he's trying to make 59 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: all the connections he can before this thing kind of 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: fades away. Yeah, I mean it's sort of smart, but 61 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think with most of the big characters 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: on the show, and it seems like he will be one. 63 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: You don't really need Bachelor the Bachelor family to have 64 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: your back right away. You just kind of develop the 65 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: name yourself. Good point. I want to hear your action though. 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: Are you gonna m him back? No? WHOA, Well, I'm confused. Okay, 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: so you had a mutual friend who hooked you up 68 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: with that phone call? Right? Yes? Okay? And then Jared. 69 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: I think that Lucas must have just slid into Jared's 70 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: d M s and he must have messaged him back, 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: because Jared is that nice guy. Yeah, there's a lot 72 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: to Lucas I feel like, and we have. I think 73 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: we can talk about Lucas for most of the podcast 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: who Past, But until then, speaking of things that kind 75 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: of make you just want to hide your face and 76 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: bear crnsworthy moments, I'm gonna call him from last night. 77 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with one of mine. I wrote two 78 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: down and uh to anybody listening this this is coming 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: from a place of complete judgment. Yes, Um, I had 80 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: one moment um where I didn't feel like the guys 81 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: last night had a lot of game. I feel like 82 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: they came out a limo, kind of nervous which I get. 83 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: I was very nervous. I stuttered, you had two girls. Yeah, 84 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: that was a lot for me. But last night I 85 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: wasn't very impressed with first um interactions. But the one 86 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: I was least impressed with, the one that made me 87 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: very concerned UM was a young man I don't know 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: his name for right now, and maybe you do know it. 89 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: He gets out of the limo and he tells Rachel 90 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: something sweet. Rachel, I hear you like to laugh, which 91 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: is it's just a beautiful thing to know about somebody. 92 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: He didn't doesn't really like to laugh though. That's always 93 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: something I've never understood. People are like, I like to 94 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: have fun. It's like, oh, who doesn't like to have fun? 95 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, exactly like he He didn't didn't spent 96 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: a lot of time researching Rachel's background to find out that, hey, 97 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: she likes to laugh. But the part that concerned me 98 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: was he had her closes her eyes, reach out her 99 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: hands so she's defenseless, and he grabs her sides tickles her. 100 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: And and that's the first thing. How does somebody supposed 101 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: to react like thank you? Oh my gosh. That guy 102 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: right there, he's so sweet. He just got me laughing. Tickling. 103 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: That kind of laughing is not like I'm not I 104 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: don't think that something's funny. I'm laughing because I'm feel 105 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna die, and I would like to know. 106 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: I would like to tell you that if I were 107 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: the bachelorette and somebody tickled me, I'd probably pee my 108 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: pants flash dress, because that's what happens when somebody tickles 109 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: me and you no like legit, I will pay, you know. 110 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: And we're finding out this this guy's name because I 111 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: did I didn't do my research well enough. His name 112 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: is Jonathan. And I'm thinking, you know, Jonathan tried hard. 113 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: He thought over this for for a long time. And 114 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: you know how it is before you get out of them, 115 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: tell them about that. Okay, how did you decide what 116 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: you're gonna do? Um? You know you're you're in for 117 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: for many days. You're kind of in this bachelor world, 118 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: prepping for the first night, and and for me, you 119 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: don't really know what you're getting yourself into. You fly 120 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, I arrived to l a X, I 121 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: get in a car. I'm then moved out to this 122 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: hotel getting prepped for that first night of Bachelor, And 123 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: in your mind you're thinking, how am I going to 124 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: make this best first impression? And and and in my 125 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Jonathan, the young man who decided to 126 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: squeeze the sides of Rachel in a loving way. Um, 127 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: at what point was he sitting in this hotel room 128 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: prepping for the first night and he goes, I got it, 129 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: Like all the things I can do right now, I 130 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: know Rachel's gonna like me the best if because she 131 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: likes laughter. But she doesn't just like laughter. She likes 132 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: forced laughter. She likes to be forced into laughing when 133 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: I do nothing particular. I mean, I don't know. I 134 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: mean it's a bad idea, but some producer was definitely 135 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: like what I do as you have? And then he 136 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: was like, well I love to tickle. And then they're 137 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: like that's it, and you know, and then he decided 138 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: to tickle and it was all downhill from there. What 139 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: was your first uh what was your initial uh exit 140 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: out of the limit would you do? I didn't do anything. 141 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: That's what I went there. The plan was to not 142 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: do anything ridiculous. I just wanted to say, Hi, I'm 143 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: actually very excited it's you, and kind of work a 144 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: little nervous Christuls. Yeah, so I don't know. I just 145 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: wanted to be smooth and collected, and it was my 146 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: coolest moment ever on the Bachelor, And it was all 147 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: downhill from there for me really around a while, I thought, 148 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: you watching it back and we don't need to go 149 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: too far in this, but you you had something with Chris, 150 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: I think so. But I just think that I was 151 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: like a crying lunatic mostly and I had like my calm, cool, 152 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: collected moment when I got out the limo, which is 153 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: really weird because it's supposed to be the most nerve 154 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: wracking moment. Well, where'd it go? What was your cringeworthy 155 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: moment from last night? From last night? You know, it 156 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: was kind of just in general. The attorney, the guy 157 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: that was the lawyer, his name was Josiah Josiah because 158 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: Josiah went in so overly confident, and it makes me 159 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: feel awkward when people are so confident and you're like, oh, no, 160 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't think she's gonna like that. It's coming across 161 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: as conceited, in cocky, not like you're just like this 162 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: very professional, nice man. No, So he thought he was 163 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: too conceiting cocky and that's what made you cringe. Yeah, 164 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: what do you think about him? Well, I I agree. 165 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: I think I would say a lot of people are 166 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: a lot of the men last night we're conceding cocky, 167 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: which is interesting because I don't think Rachel is that way. 168 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: I think she's confident, but I don't think Rachel portrays 169 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: this cockiness or arrogance that isn't realistic. And so for 170 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: these guys to get out there and kind of be 171 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: I guess pea cocking themselves in front of each other. Um, 172 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: that's what the first night's all about with the Bachelor, 173 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: and the time goes on to see Ben came from 174 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: the greatest season of The Bachelorette of all time. His 175 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: top ten had like I pretty much almost marry everybody 176 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: in your top ten. I mean, I know, I know 177 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: there's a couple that I don't know if I could 178 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: like handle for life like I love Nick. Couldn't handle 179 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: him as my like living partner for life. Neither could 180 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: Joe Bailey. But like the rest of you, fantastic men 181 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: appreciate it. But I do feel like last last last 182 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: season with Jojo, it was complete peacocking. Yeah, it's getting 183 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: into that, and and that's going to be an interesting 184 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: dynamic because we move forward in this season with Rachel, 185 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: is when does the peacocking stop and one of these 186 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: men humbled to the point where they realize that there's 187 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of hopefully for Rachel's sake, great guys there 188 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: that are competing for one woman, which adds its own dynamic. 189 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: And and Rachel's not there to have you know, who's 190 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: a who's better than who? Uh contest? It's who am 191 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: I going to fall in love with? Well, I have 192 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: to like get deep here first. I feel like you 193 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,359 Speaker 1: and I may have had like the last great seasons 194 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: because it was before being on The Bachelor became a 195 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: real business. Now it's a business, and now people know 196 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: they get on the show that they have easy money 197 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: coming their way because Instagram, social media and all that stuff, 198 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: and like all these appearances, it's totally different than it 199 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: used to be before our seasons. And I feel like 200 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: we were all really there to find love because we deserve. 201 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: I think we were all pretty old fashioned. But now 202 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: I think you're getting a lot of people that are 203 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: just there for the business in the mix. It's interesting. Well, 204 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm excited today One of the interesting parts about this 205 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: podcast and and everybody will get used to it as 206 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: we go is we're gonna take callers, we're gonna take 207 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: call ins, and we're gonna respond to questions like that 208 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: is is the Bachelor Bachelor? It changed because of the 209 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: dynamic of income. Um, we're gonna hear from some former 210 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: Bachelor peeps, one of your good friends and uh off 211 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: and on Lover Jared Hayn and my buddy uh and 212 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: and we're also I'm excited to kind of hear his 213 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on last night's Best Guy, Best First Impression and 214 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: here if he has any thoughts uh different than mine 215 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: on Lucas, we can get into that a little bit. Yeah, 216 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: that'd be great. So let's take some call us. Hey, guys, 217 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: let's go to Ali and Washington d C. Hey, Hey, hey, Ali, 218 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: you're on. Hey, this is getting awkward for us all. Hello, Yeah, Hey, 219 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: it's actually hi. Oh my, hey Ali, real quick, this 220 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: has been and we're so excited to talk to your 221 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:48,599 Speaker 1: first caller ever on the almost famous podcast. Oh my gosh. 222 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: But we want to hear your question. So what's your 223 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: comment question concerned? Um, let's talk a little bit. Yeah, 224 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: do you look at spoilers. Um, I do. Actually it's 225 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: really bad, but I always look at them. Well, don't 226 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: tell me who wins. I'm going to watch this season 227 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: like a fan and not know who wins. I mean, 228 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if they real So who Who's Who's 229 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: the guy that you you want to date from this season? 230 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: From this upcoming season? Yeah? Like, what's hottie got your eye? Oh? Um? 231 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: I think the Mario is really cute. Oh he's the 232 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: lawyer right wait? Yeah? And then there was him and 233 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: then um, Dean. I think we're thinking Dean could be 234 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: a possible Bachelor contestant, I mean possible candidate for the Bachelor. 235 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: I definitely think you could be potential Bachelor of material. 236 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: That sounds great. Hey, Ali, we're gonna have to go. Um, 237 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: but Ali, thank you for calling into the Almost Famous Podcast. 238 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for talking to me. I have no problem. Have 239 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: a good one, yo. But I'm Ben Higgins with my 240 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,359 Speaker 1: co host Ashley I. This is the Almost Famous podcast 241 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: on I Heart Radio. Hey, everybody, by the way, this 242 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: is Amy our loss. Um. I don't know if she 243 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: actually is or not, but she's gonna absolutely a percent. 244 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: Don't you ever forget it. Let's talk about Brian. His 245 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: kissing makes me want to throw up. Yeah, that wasn't 246 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: so cute. It just wasn't he really went in for 247 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: I don't think she wanted to kiss anyone that night. 248 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: You know, she said she didn't want to kiss anyone 249 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: that night, But then she also said that she really 250 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: liked his kiss. But it just looked far too aggressive 251 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: for a first kiss for me, way too much tongue, 252 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: his mouth was wide open. Yeah, no, I agree. There's 253 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: something about that first night, and coming from the perspective 254 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: of the bachelor at or Bachelor, I would say that 255 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: first night is a whirlwind, and there's a lot of 256 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: people you're meeting, and there's a lot of conversations you're 257 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: having and and kissing somebody isn't appropriate for that for 258 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: that night you've known them for ten minutes, because you 259 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: imagine if you are on a regular date, let alone, 260 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: like in this environment, there's twenty five people and you've 261 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: done them for ten minutes. But if somebody, if some 262 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: guy kissed me ten minutes into a regular date, I 263 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: would freak out. Yes, Rachel seemed to like it. She did. 264 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: You would freak out too. I wouldn't like it. You know, 265 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: and what people don't see from from the viewing perspective 266 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: is a lot of times you're talking to one of 267 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: these um people that you just met in front of 268 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: other people. They're they're contestants for cast or contestants sitting 269 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: around watching you talk to this person. So for you 270 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: to start sucking face in front of them is not 271 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: only distruct it's just awkward. Well, in Brian's defense, he 272 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: did take her to a very private area by the 273 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: front door. Good point. He's a sweetheart. The producers like, 274 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: this is too early for anyone else to see. You're 275 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: gonna take her right over here. Yeah, you know, but 276 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: she did like it, and I think, um, you know, 277 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: good for him, he made the leap. But let's talk 278 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: about something after he made the leap, when he's in 279 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: the moment with Rachel. I can't help. But you know, 280 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: my mom was always a great critic of my kissing 281 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: of aties during the Bachelor. Yeah, well, you know I 282 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: feel bad for my my mother and grandmother for that. Um, 283 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: this is a great topic because I have a lot 284 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: to say about it too. Yeah. So just real short here, 285 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: let me tell you my my background. So, as the Bachelor, 286 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: you're obviously dating multiple people at once, it's not a 287 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: secret you're also kissing multiple people in during an episode. 288 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: You're My grandmother and mother both watch the show, so 289 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: they saw close up how I how I kiss somebody? Yeah, 290 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: you're really good, I think from TV. Let's clarify that actually, 291 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: thank you. UM. So you know, as you watch it 292 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: on TV, there's not only sound effects, there's also close ups. 293 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: And the judgment comes in hot, which in turn translated 294 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: to me watching Brian last night kissing Rachel and and 295 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: there was this like a lot of like very intense 296 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: um what I want to say, like sucking or like 297 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: he would pull her face very close to his and 298 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: then like kind of push it away with his lip. 299 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: So much a movement movement. And I want to hear 300 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: your thoughts, But my only comment is Brian has um 301 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: very interestingly strong lips. It looks like, yeah, there's a 302 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of force there. It was like a suction cup 303 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: and there was definitely tongue in there too, And that's 304 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: just so much for ten minutes of knowing someone. But 305 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: I kept to talk about like kissing on TV two 306 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: because I looked like the worst kisser ever when I 307 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: was kissing chriss souls just completely not. I guess we 308 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: weren't very compatible. I think like my mouth may be 309 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: too big for his. This is always my this is 310 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: my theory. This is how I excuse this loby kissing 311 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: on that season. But then I really turned it around 312 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: with Jared. And while I look pretty good speaking of Jared, 313 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: can we get Jared on the line, Jared right now? 314 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: I need I needed that about this? Did we talk 315 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: about that? Embarrassing? Actually, for a second, I just I'm 316 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: going to talk to Jared. I need you to sit 317 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: back like you're now even here so I can kind 318 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: of hear his thoughts on exactly what this kiss was. Like. 319 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jared, you're there, buddy. Oh my gosh, Hi, 320 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: that was so seamless. I know it's pretty easy. It's 321 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: going to hear your voice, Jared. I could not be 322 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: happy to hear your voice. UM. It's been a while 323 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: to be talked, to try to call you earlier, UM 324 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: to to prep you for this. UM. But everybody we have, Jared, 325 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: have Ben here, who was on Caitlin's season of The Bachelorte, 326 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: which I participated in and then has moved on from there. 327 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: UM to do great things in his life, including go 328 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: on Bachelor in Paradise and, for lack of a better term, 329 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: possibly fall in love with Ashley. I possibly what season 330 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: we were you watching? Um, Jared, we were just talking 331 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: about making out on camera, and I want to hear 332 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: your thoughts about right ways to do it, wrong ways 333 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: to do it? And then what was it like to 334 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: kiss Ashley on camera? Thank god putting me out of 335 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: the answer that phone call earlier. No, man, I mean 336 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: we've all kissed on camera, right. I don't think there 337 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: is a right or wrong way to do it. Just 338 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: try not to stuck. Because millions of people are watching you. 339 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: We've got to judge every move you make. It's weird 340 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: when you start kissing one because then you can you 341 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: can like almost feel the camera man start zooming in, 342 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: walking towards you, breathing down your neck, breathing down your neck, 343 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: pretty intense. And then, Yeah, Ashley is a really good kisser, 344 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: who was great kissing her on camera? I was very 345 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: I was a very lucky man you are now. I 346 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: just want to clarify here for anybody listening, Uh, Jared 347 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: and Ashley are not together. I know that's that's always 348 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: a rumor that pops up. They're very good friends, Um, 349 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: and it's it's great to get this perspective from two 350 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: people now that consider themselves friends so they can talk 351 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: about this issue that we saw last night with Brian 352 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: and Jared. Just to fill you in, we've been talking 353 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: about Brian, who UM last night in the Bachelor at 354 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: aggressively kissed Rachel within the first ten minutes of meeting her, 355 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: and she enjoyed it. Also, some people sitting in the 356 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: room with us right now, I felt like they enjoyed 357 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: watching it and wish they could have been Rachel. What's 358 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: your thoughts on somebody getting out of a limo boy 359 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: or girl walking up to the Bachelor Bachelorette and after 360 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: ten minutes, you know, lay one on them. Uh. I mean, 361 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: as we don't know this world that we go into, 362 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: it moves really quickly and rapidly. Any opportunity you get 363 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: to kis someone or kind of do you think that 364 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: moment is there and you really need to take advantage 365 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: of it because if you don't take advantage of that moment, 366 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: somebody else will. It's so politically correct because there's no 367 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: way that he'd ever do this. That's completely false. I 368 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: would totally do it if I felt the moment was right. 369 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: I mean, been looking back, I think we all were 370 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: kind of stunned when we first walked into the Bachelor world, 371 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: where just it's like a culture shock. So I think 372 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: we kind of kind of just try to take things 373 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: in slowly and relaxed. And I think my mindset when 374 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: I was first on the Bachelorette, I wouldn't have done it. 375 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: But my mindset now of seeing the process from an outside, 376 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: do we do it now? Yeah? And that's a good 377 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: point to bring up. I've been friends with Jared, you know, 378 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: since the bachelortt and I've seen his growth as a person, 379 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: He's seen my growth growth as a person. I have 380 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: a ton of respect for Jared. Um. Maybe well we 381 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: can keep going back and forth. You that'd be your love. 382 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: Even here, Jared's like, I would never do that, completely incorrect, 383 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: and like, well, actually you just admitted you wouldn't have 384 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: done it on your season, but you can do it now. 385 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: He's way more confident now. He's a confident man. And 386 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: and Jared we speaking of confidence. Um, you and I 387 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: both have had an interaction with a man named Lucas. 388 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: Maybe the most compelling character from last night's Bachelorette is 389 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: the boom or a bam? What is it? It's yeah, 390 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: it's that guy. Um, his name is Lucas. He reached 391 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: out to me about a month ago to talk about 392 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: what exactly he was getting himself into. And at that 393 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: point it's a little late and the show had already 394 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: been his lot in life had already been chosen. But 395 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: I know he did the same to you. So can 396 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: you just tell us a little bit about that conversation. Yeah, 397 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Lucas Fluke talks to me and uh told 398 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: me that he talked to my good friend Ben and 399 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: then Ben told him to get know em me. So 400 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Ben. Is that really went down? It 401 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: might be off, yeah, Jared Jared, But the only reason 402 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: I did, I want to clarify for everybody out there. 403 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: The only reason I pushed him off to you was 404 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: because I had things to do. And secondly, the second 405 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: person that I that I respect the mostess world is 406 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: is is Jared. So Jared, but he's uh no, he 407 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: was cool, I mean looks and he just reached out. 408 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: I had a lot of questions up the so and 409 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: he said he was like a little nervous about it 410 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: and was wondering somethings about what its watched back and 411 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: post back for life and things of that nature. So, Jared, 412 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: did you feel like talking to him there was a 413 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: sense to Lucas that you were going to get something 414 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: very interesting him from him watching the show back, like 415 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: he was going to be a character. Yeah, I definitely. Well, honestly, 416 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: I saw one of two things. I saw either he's 417 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: going to be a character and he's gonna be this 418 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: kind of crazy person on the show or like very outgoing, 419 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: well how you know, or honestly I thought he was 420 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna be nobody. We can all say that he's definitely 421 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: not a nobody. Uh. The world now knows Lucas, We 422 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: know him for who he is. Lucas will be in 423 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: our minds and hearts for a long time. Um, Jared, 424 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: I had a similar reaction with Lucas. It was it 425 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: was a very it was a conversation I walked out 426 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: of going this guy is gonna be something. I just 427 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: don't know what yet, And now I know after watching 428 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: last night's episode. But the Lucas I was talking to 429 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: on the phone is the wa boom guy that I 430 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: will never forget Jared, buddy. We both love you. Thank 431 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: you for calling into the show. Um, I cannot wait 432 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: to talk to you many times throughout this podcast. Yes, yeah, absolutely, guys, 433 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: And I'm really happy for you both. And it couldn't 434 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: be hearth And I think Jared, you know, Jared adds 435 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: a different an interesting perspective for the both of us. Right, So, 436 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: Jared's a friend of mine. Uh, you have dated him 437 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: more or less, you you're you're still friends. I trust 438 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: Jared's opinion, and I think throughout this podcast is going 439 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: to be interesting here from him because he can also, 440 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, be very honest with you. And then as 441 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: I wish you guys could see my face right now, 442 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: because my face has way more than my words could say, 443 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: she might still have a thing for Jared, but no, 444 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying that, like Jared is so politically correct, but 445 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: he wishes he weren't, like he wants it to brutally honest. 446 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: But then like he's too good. He's just like, yeah, 447 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: he's a good soul and that's not a bad thing. No, 448 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: he's he's the best in everyone. Let's see if Megan 449 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: from Florida has a good soul. Megan. Hi, Hi Megan. 450 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: This has been an Ashley on the Almost Famous podcast. Megan, 451 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: how you doing today? I'm so good. You guys are 452 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: my two favorites on dostuation that I'm literally dying right now. 453 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: I can't even handle it. No, we are not. You're 454 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: so sleepy. Thank you. We don't. We can't have you 455 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: dying on est Megan. We need to talk to you 456 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: about The Bachelor at last night. Um, there's a few 457 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: from Florida, from Miami. I think I can't remember their name, 458 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: but and then there was a lawyer. I think that 459 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: would be really match great with her. So would you 460 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: that's your pick for Rachel? Right? Yeah? What guys? Did 461 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: you think we're the hottest? Who are you looking out for? 462 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: The name that you're looking at? Megan? Yeah, I'm so 463 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: bad with names. I just know, like faces and stuff. 464 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: I can't. I'm still bad with names. It's terrible. I 465 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: don't know how you guys like memorize everybody's names, because 466 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: I just can't do it. I don't know. Actually that 467 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: brings us to a great question, Ben, how many girls 468 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: named did you actually know that first night? And how 469 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: many did you have to ask the producers, what's her 470 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: name before giving her the rose? Yeah, definitely Megan. Actually, 471 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: this is topic I get asked about all the time, 472 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: and I do want to be honest with you about this. 473 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: The show would love for you to forget the names, 474 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: right because it's great TV. If you know, as the bachelor, 475 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: I'm standing up there and I said, I don't know 476 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: your name. I'm sorry, but I like what you represent 477 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: and please So the what I did, in my mind, 478 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: I would make uh relational like relational like memories between 479 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: the name and what they were wearing or what they 480 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: had told me. So, uh, you know, if somebody said, hey, 481 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: you know, I like I think one of the young 482 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: ladies had bread and her name was Brianna or something, 483 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: so it's easy like that was my thing. So as 484 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm standing up there offering her a rose, I'm thinking 485 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: of bread. Well, I like both of them. I like that. 486 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: So that was how I memorized names. But no, there 487 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: is no assistance, right, so that you can't there's no assistance. 488 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: You've got to be lying. Then why do you leave 489 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: every three roses and go back to the secret room? 490 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: Or at least that's what Chris Soul's dead. Well, I 491 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: don't know there after every three, I can't imagine. Well, 492 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's the most nerve wracking thing ever. 493 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: But the first night I had my rose and the 494 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: that was the first three. Uh, Megan, You're right. It's 495 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: not only nerve wracking for the contestants, but it's also 496 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: nerve wracking for the bachelor bachelor, especially on night one. Right. 497 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: So that's the thing that gets gets forgotten is like 498 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: Rachel has has never been the bachelorette before. This is 499 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: new to her. She's nervous. I was nervous, and so 500 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: you do you you get a little bit overwhelmed. Everything 501 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: is kind of swarming around you. I think Rachel said 502 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: at best last night when she's like, there's a guy here, 503 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: there's a guy here, there's a guy here. Where it turned, 504 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: there's a guy guy. Um. I felt the same way 505 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: just with girls, and there was a girl every place 506 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: I turned, And over time, the whole night starts to 507 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: kind of just fly fly away, and and you're standing 508 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: in front of all of them and the only thing 509 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: you can possibly do is try to remember their names. 510 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: So you did. I did. I did remember their names. Um, 511 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: And that is something I'm proud of and that is 512 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: one of the very many reasons that Ben is our 513 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: best bachelor. Yeah, I best one we've ever had. Like, 514 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: you guys are really sweet. Megan, thank you for calling 515 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: into our podcast. We really appreciate I hope you call 516 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: back again. Yeah, Megan, you're a great guest. Bye bye. 517 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm Ben Higgins with my co host Ashley I and 518 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: this is the almost famous podcast. We have Rhonda from 519 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: San Diego on the line. Hey Rhonda, Hi, how are you? 520 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: Hey good? How are you well? Thanks for being our 521 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: third caller ever on the bed An Ashley podcast. Um, 522 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: so we're talking about the Bachelorette episode. Do you have 523 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: any questions for us as far as the Bachelor goes, 524 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: you know about like anything that you want inside scoop on? Um. Yeah, Like, 525 00:27:53,920 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: what is the most nerve racking part of the first episode? Everyone? Um? 526 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: For me personally, it was probably waiting in the hotel room, 527 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: waiting to get into the limo and then meet Crystals. 528 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: It was just that waiting, waiting, waiting, and I was 529 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: all by myself. I had no one to you know, 530 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: talk to, let me get about all my nerves about. Uh, 531 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of nerve wracking experiences, especially on the 532 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: Bachelor when you have never been there before. Right. So 533 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: so for me, I was getting out of the limo 534 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: meeting two women who had seen on TV. That's just 535 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: an odd experience in itself, but being a bachelor, obviously 536 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: the whole thing is ne're wracking. Um. I felt a 537 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of pressure and wait through the whole experience, 538 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: and so I remember waking up most mornings and just 539 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: praying that I get through the day without really really 540 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: messing up. Um, which happened. I'd say, of the days, 541 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: thank you, Rhonda. Rhonda, UM, I have a question for you. 542 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: Are you a Brian Adams fan? Okay, great question, That 543 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: is great. Ben and I went to a Brian Adams 544 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: concert the other night at the Greek Theater. Everybody thought 545 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: we were dating, but we're not. We're just friends and 546 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: we were there with a group of friends and it 547 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: was a great experience because I never even thought to 548 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: see Brian Adams in concert, but he was killer. He 549 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: rocked out. Yeah, Ronda, we wanted to clarify with you 550 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: because we knew you were concerned about if we were 551 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: dating or not. So we just want to make sure 552 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: that you knew that we're not. Um Ronda, thank you 553 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: for calling into our show. Yeah, I appreciate. Have a 554 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: great day in San Diego. Thank you. All right, So 555 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: I found Ben Higgins one flaw this weekend while we 556 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: were at Brian Adams concert. You know, talk to anyone 557 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: in this bachelor family. We all talked about Ben is 558 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: just the most perfect guy. And then I heard him 559 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: sing and I thought, there it is. That's the one problem. 560 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: Not that that's a real problem, but Ben, show off 561 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: your voice. You know, maybe people will disagree with me. 562 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: Everything I do do it for you. Actually, you haven't 563 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: you you've been influenced by boy bands. I hear a 564 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: little Nicholas say in there, do you Yeah? Wow? Well 565 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: let me send you a little bit more than baby. 566 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: You're all that Oh it's actually not that bad. You 567 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: live here in my arms. I find it's hard to 568 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: believe this is heaven. All right. Well, I apologize to 569 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: Nicola sa Nick. My dad always said to find a 570 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: man like you. Hey, everybody will be singing to you 571 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: for many, many more weeks to come. This was Ben 572 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: and this is Ashley on the Almost Famous podcast on 573 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. By followed the Ben Nashley I Almost Famous 574 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: podcasts on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen 575 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: to podcasts.