Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And a lot of times
Speaker 1: I feel like you gotta just step back and let
Speaker 1: people figure out their own situation because that's their business.
Speaker 1: Always tell people this, listen to your body. Oh listen
Speaker 1: to me. Listen to your body. And if you don't,
Speaker 1: that's also your business. What's up, everybody? I'm Gammy and
Speaker 1: this is positively gam In this episode, we're going to
Speaker 1: be discussing embracing a career you didn't choose. Joining me
Speaker 1: today is actress, mom, motivational speaker, vegan food blogger, boss
Speaker 1: and Everybody's auntie Tabitha Brown. Hello there, So are you
Speaker 1: looking for like a raw inspired meals that you can
Speaker 1: eat for breakfast, lunch? Maybe a good snack? I got you.
Speaker 1: Let's make chipped red bill peppers, chopped purpla and you
Speaker 1: some chopped men and cucumber. Put it all in the bowl.
Speaker 1: Get some outside of the record on there like so
Speaker 1: like that, get your little olive okay, but you use
Speaker 1: whatever you want consens your business okay. For those of
Speaker 1: my listeners who may not know Tabitha, she gained immense
Speaker 1: Internet popularity with her online video content, which incorporates veganism, humor,
Speaker 1: and motivational speaking. But Tabitha's original career plan was to
Speaker 1: be an actor. And I just want to tell you,
Speaker 1: Tabitha that my girlfriend Wendy was the one who termed
Speaker 1: me what to you originally because she said you gotta
Speaker 1: look her up on Instagram. She is so funny. So
Speaker 1: welcome to positively gam Tabitha. Thank you for having me, honey,
Speaker 1: and thank you Windy for looking out for your girls.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, and she was absolutely right. You are
Speaker 1: such a personality. But you know, I read that you
Speaker 1: were inspired by Rudy on The Cosby Show. That's what
Speaker 1: made you want to get into an acting career as
Speaker 1: a little girl. You know, I didn't know what it
Speaker 1: was to be an actor when I was five, right,
Speaker 1: And I'm from a small town in North Carolina. I've
Speaker 1: never seen acting. But I remember as a family every
Speaker 1: Thursday we would watch the Coffee Show, and I remember
Speaker 1: telling my mom, I want to be Rudy's free and
Speaker 1: to ring the doorbell Nick and come in the house,
Speaker 1: you know, go and play with rude I said, no,
Speaker 1: I just want to go in the TV do my
Speaker 1: thing and then I'm gonna come home. I was trying
Speaker 1: to explain to her, I want to be an actor
Speaker 1: like Rude, and that was my first introduction. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how I started. So tell me about your acting
Speaker 1: career journey, because you moved from North Carolina to l A. Right,
Speaker 1: I did that two times, but the first time don't
Speaker 1: really kount because I didn't move to l A. You know,
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, I've always wanted to
Speaker 1: act my entire life. I always wanted to, and I
Speaker 1: remember my mama telling me. She said, you know, I
Speaker 1: know you want to be an actress, but you don't
Speaker 1: know anything about Nobody in our family were was actors,
Speaker 1: as she was like, but I also used to make
Speaker 1: clothes in high school. She was like that you make
Speaker 1: clothes and you do that, well, why don't you go
Speaker 1: to school profession design so you have something to fall
Speaker 1: back on that can help you pursue your dream. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't that she was trying to, you know, detour me.
Speaker 1: She just was going off what she knew, you know,
Speaker 1: And so I thought, well, that's a good idea. So
Speaker 1: I had got accepted to this college down in Miami
Speaker 1: International Fire North, So I went there when I graduated
Speaker 1: high school, and I remember I was there for the
Speaker 1: first semester. Then I woke up. It was a Wednesday
Speaker 1: night in the middle of the night, and all I
Speaker 1: can think about was I'm supposed to be an actress.
Speaker 1: I was like, school was going great, you know, I
Speaker 1: was part of it. I had good grades and everything
Speaker 1: was good. But I'm supposed to be an actress. And
Speaker 1: I called my daddy and like one in the morning,
Speaker 1: woke came up. I said, there to listen, I'm there
Speaker 1: here wasting your money. You need to come get me.
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be an actress and I'm kids girl.
Speaker 1: He said, well, I gotta work at the meal on Friday.
Speaker 1: When I get off, I hear dren because it was
Speaker 1: fourteen hour drive. He came to pick me up on
Speaker 1: Saturday morning, and when he came, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I gotta figure out how am I gonna get
Speaker 1: to this acting. And I was back in my hometown
Speaker 1: of Eden, and I decided to apply for Plumbia College
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Was thinking, oh, it's gonna be hit me
Speaker 1: and my mama flew out there felling over the school.
Speaker 1: Fell in over with Chicago because it was spring won't
Speaker 1: win them. And I was like, oh, man, I'm about
Speaker 1: to go to school here. Two weeks before the time ago,
Speaker 1: I got the letters that said, oh, due to your
Speaker 1: financial aid from the school in Miami, we cannot your
Speaker 1: financial aide, so I couldn't go to school. So I
Speaker 1: just said, you know what. My mom had a friend
Speaker 1: that lived out there in California that had told me
Speaker 1: one time before, if you ever want to come to California,
Speaker 1: you could come and rent a room for me. And
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, I wonder if that lady still will
Speaker 1: allow that. I called her and she said, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: gonna come out here. So within two weeks I made
Speaker 1: that decision and I said, I'm gonna go to California.
Speaker 1: I'm just go to see my dreams. I'm nineteen. Now.
Speaker 1: What lady and Tammany was she was crazy and she
Speaker 1: was gonna take out my money. She left that part out.
Speaker 1: Girl said nothing about that, all right, and I want
Speaker 1: in l A. I was down in Horns, down in
Speaker 1: Laguna the gale. It was beautiful, but I won't know
Speaker 1: where in Hollywood. And my husband was my boyfriend at
Speaker 1: the time. So I had been out there for a
Speaker 1: couple of months and then his The plan was he
Speaker 1: was gonna move out and then we get our own place.
Speaker 1: I didn't tell him how bad it was, so when
Speaker 1: he got there, he said, this is crazy, but likely
Speaker 1: taking all your money. We're in Orange County, you're working
Speaker 1: two jobs. You ain't doing nothing to where you could
Speaker 1: do no acting. We ain't even in l A or
Speaker 1: even close to it. We need to go back to
Speaker 1: North Carolina, save up for one year, then moved to
Speaker 1: l A where you can really pursue your dreams. And
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, that sounds like a good, you know,
Speaker 1: good good plan. So we ended up saving up and
Speaker 1: went back to North Carolina, and the one year plan
Speaker 1: turned into five years, a baby, marriage, house calls, jobs,
Speaker 1: and a forgotten dream. If I got pregnant and had
Speaker 1: my door to after we moved back, I thought, man,
Speaker 1: I missed outing my opportunity. I can't pursue no acting
Speaker 1: now I got a baby. You know, from you stake
Speaker 1: your little regular life, and that's right. And so I
Speaker 1: literally believed that for a long time. And then one
Speaker 1: morning something shook my bed and woke me up, and
Speaker 1: it felt like I had had an earthquake in Brienceburn,
Speaker 1: North Callina, and I woke up and I heard a
Speaker 1: voice that sounded like thunder, and the boy said, this
Speaker 1: is not the life I planned for you. And it
Speaker 1: scared me, and I got on my knees and I
Speaker 1: started printing. I said, now, Lord, I this is you
Speaker 1: speaking to me. I need you to show me a
Speaker 1: sign today. If not, I'm about to go admit myself
Speaker 1: into the hospital because I'm hearing stuff. And I told
Speaker 1: my husband what happened, and of course he thought I
Speaker 1: was a little losing it too. He was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I said, but I didn't ask the Lord to show
Speaker 1: be a signed today. And later the day, we were
Speaker 1: on our way to the mall and on the radio,
Speaker 1: that DJ's name was Buster Brown. He had a radio
Speaker 1: show that came on and said, Hey, I got a
Speaker 1: new TV show on the b I'm looking for a
Speaker 1: female co host and I'll be holding audition this girl
Speaker 1: out towards the cart up. I've been here five years
Speaker 1: and there was never ever an audition in Greensbury, North Carolina.
Speaker 1: And I told my husband that's my sign, that's my job.
Speaker 1: And I went to that obviously and I booked it. Wow,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, it's time now,
Speaker 1: it's time. It's time to go. And I've been here
Speaker 1: ever since. And that's when I got here and started
Speaker 1: my journey into acting. But of course it didn't start
Speaker 1: as soon as I got here as I planned, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well let's let's jump ahead a little bit. Did you
Speaker 1: have any idea that the videos that you were posting
Speaker 1: online would go viral? Oh? Girl, No, I didn't even
Speaker 1: want to do videos. Like what even made you think
Speaker 1: about doing that? Well? I had, you know, I was
Speaker 1: sick for a year and a half. When I fell
Speaker 1: into depression and anxiety. I got to a place where
Speaker 1: I didn't believe God heard me anymore. Right, And you know,
Speaker 1: I grew up in the church. I'm a woman of faith,
Speaker 1: but I really was like, God, you brought me all
Speaker 1: the way this far, just the least be here. And
Speaker 1: I had had my coming to Jesus moment, it's what
Speaker 1: I call it. One day in my bathroom and I
Speaker 1: got in the mirror and I was really in searching
Speaker 1: my soul and I was like, they said, way you
Speaker 1: can see that, it's through your eyes. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's because my eyes are so being a girl,
Speaker 1: It was right scary when I got it in the mirror,
Speaker 1: I like, oh Lord, But but I prayed and I
Speaker 1: told God, I said, God, you know I have been
Speaker 1: habitually praying, not believing what I prayed. But right now
Speaker 1: I'm giving my my final call to me. If you
Speaker 1: heal me, you can have me. And I won't try
Speaker 1: to do this life my way no more. I simply
Speaker 1: do whatever you ask of me. And I meant it.
Speaker 1: That day, I really like left the old tab in
Speaker 1: the bathroom right. And about two weeks later, I had
Speaker 1: a dream. And in that dream at what you should
Speaker 1: also know about me is, ever since I was a
Speaker 1: little girl, I've always had dreams that come to past.
Speaker 1: My mom always said I had to give the dream.
Speaker 1: So in the street, I saw myself on a TV show,
Speaker 1: like a show of some sort, and my hair was
Speaker 1: like a little short afro because I always wear my
Speaker 1: hair long and straight, because that's what my agents and
Speaker 1: stuff used to tell me. I always cover my accent
Speaker 1: because I was always told to. But in the dream,
Speaker 1: I was completely free. But I just had like a
Speaker 1: little sort of afro. But I was happy, and I
Speaker 1: woke up and I said, there, Lord, I'm not audisin,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing stand up because I used to go
Speaker 1: out and do stand up trying to get a TV show. Right,
Speaker 1: And I was like, but what was that revealed that
Speaker 1: to me? And I heard a voice and said start
Speaker 1: doing videos. And I said, start doing videos. Oh no, Lord,
Speaker 1: you ain't talking to me. I'm literally my floord. Happened
Speaker 1: this conversation with God. And again he said start doing videos.
Speaker 1: I said, why would I do a video? He said, look,
Speaker 1: when you're out doing stand up trying to get a show,
Speaker 1: you would reach fifteen maybe thirty people at night. You
Speaker 1: start doing videos, you reached thousands and minutes. And I said,
Speaker 1: but lord, that's where I got you, because I ain't
Speaker 1: even got thousands of followers to reach you a minute.
Speaker 1: So just don't even make no sense, right. And again
Speaker 1: he said start doing videos and I said, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing And he said, remember two weeks ago in the bathroom,
Speaker 1: he said, if I heal you, I can't you do
Speaker 1: whatever I asked. I said, Lord, hath Verston caught me
Speaker 1: on a bad day. But I did say that so
Speaker 1: to be obedient. And I was started doing videos. So
Speaker 1: when I first started doing videos, I would be a
Speaker 1: sit down comedian. It's like called myself because I would
Speaker 1: still be in my bed or sitting on my couch
Speaker 1: telling the same stories I would tell on stage when
Speaker 1: I was doing stand up as a wife, as a mom.
Speaker 1: And then as time went on, I had ended up,
Speaker 1: you know, going vegan. The day that I decided I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be vegan, the same voice that I had heard
Speaker 1: that told me to start doing videos whispered in my
Speaker 1: ear and said, now tell people what you're eating. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, you want me to do what? Lord?
Speaker 1: You want me to tell people what I'm eating? You know.
Speaker 1: I had also shaved off all my hair in this process,
Speaker 1: and I was really just trying to become free, you know,
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was crazy from a small town. Well,
Speaker 1: I want I want to interrupt you for one minute
Speaker 1: because you're talking about when you decided to go vegan.
Speaker 1: What made you decide to go vegan? I was sick, right,
Speaker 1: So when I was sick, I woke up in January
Speaker 1: and I had this headache in the back of my
Speaker 1: head and the headache rest it there every single day
Speaker 1: for one year, in seven months, and it would not
Speaker 1: go away. It was accompanied by chronic pain throughout my body.
Speaker 1: Chronic fatigue all when I walked what was happening, and
Speaker 1: it was pretty east like a light bulb for me.
Speaker 1: I started talking about all diseases and not have Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, the same thing happened, well, not the same
Speaker 1: thing happened, but I was ill as well. I was
Speaker 1: ill as well. I had a hepatitis scene. And while
Speaker 1: I was going through one treatment program, you know, you're
Speaker 1: taking all of these medications that are really really you know,
Speaker 1: because it's a chemo theory. It's it's like it's like
Speaker 1: having a cancer, all right. And I remember that at
Speaker 1: one Christmas, my grandson who is vegan, well he was
Speaker 1: at the time. He's now I think considers himself vegetarian,
Speaker 1: but he is vegan back then, and he asked us
Speaker 1: to watch what the hell and And I'm telling you
Speaker 1: that had a profound effect on me as well. It
Speaker 1: was really really sick of seeing it. And I right, yeah,
Speaker 1: both absolutely, I was the same, but it was it
Speaker 1: was that message for me because my mom dit a
Speaker 1: of a ls A disease. They can't tell you what
Speaker 1: causes and there is no cure. My daddy just turned
Speaker 1: sixty nine last month. He's the oldest man living at
Speaker 1: sixty nine, and so disease is running the family, as
Speaker 1: I thought, right, But it's the eat habits that of
Speaker 1: running the family. I went vegan in to two thousand, right,
Speaker 1: and I was living in Nevada at the time, so
Speaker 1: I went vegan there, and I just have to tell you,
Speaker 1: I just have to be honest, Tabitha. It was one
Speaker 1: of the hardest things to do because everything has eggs,
Speaker 1: everything has gluten, everything has dairy almost and it was
Speaker 1: just so challenging. Plus I was sick, so I didn't
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of energy to be and I
Speaker 1: don't like to cook, so let's just say that out
Speaker 1: front too. I was in a whole situation because I
Speaker 1: don't like to cook, so basically, and if we went
Speaker 1: out to eat, I was just getting a plate of
Speaker 1: vegetables and some mashed potatoes, right, And so it was
Speaker 1: really really boring. And then we ended up moving back
Speaker 1: to Maryland, and I was like, Okay, I'm not even
Speaker 1: gonna play this game with myself because Maryland, of course
Speaker 1: is known for their seafood, and I love eating crabs
Speaker 1: like that is that is an event, that's a social event,
Speaker 1: you know, And I just wasn't gonna play the game.
Speaker 1: So then I went pesketarian. So I've been pesketarian or
Speaker 1: for many, many years now. But one thing I like
Speaker 1: about you is that you don't you don't try to
Speaker 1: force your eating style onto anybody else. If we decide
Speaker 1: that we're gonna have piece chicken. Because let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. A couple of weeks ago, I went to
Speaker 1: I don't know if if if people that are listening,
Speaker 1: no re Red in our family. We have a blended family.
Speaker 1: And re Re is Will's first wife. Let me tell you,
Speaker 1: re Re gets down. She can cook. She can't cook
Speaker 1: for real. And I went over to her house the
Speaker 1: other day because she had let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: I stopped by. Then she had macaroni and cheese. She
Speaker 1: had she had fried chicken. Then, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I had fried chicken.
Speaker 1: You hear me, I cannot remember, but I had it
Speaker 1: that day. I had that stuff looked so good. That
Speaker 1: chicken looks so Listen, and I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna feel bad about myself. Grown Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna feel bad about And I said, yes, I had.
Speaker 1: I told Will, oh yes, I had a piece of
Speaker 1: I check it at what now you do most of
Speaker 1: your videos? Most of them are on TikTok, right, because
Speaker 1: I don't even have it to TikTok account, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about TikTok. No, you know, I just
Speaker 1: started on TikTok in March. But my my original platform
Speaker 1: is Facebook. I started uh Facebook in two seventeen when
Speaker 1: when God first told me to started doing videos. I
Speaker 1: would cook live in my kitchen on Facebook. It would
Speaker 1: be thirty people watching, and I'd be like, Lord, you
Speaker 1: said thousands of minutes where they're a god. And I
Speaker 1: was consistent. I did it every day, every day. But
Speaker 1: I was broke because I've been on disability for over
Speaker 1: a year. My savings was gone, and I was, you know,
Speaker 1: just struggling trying to figure it out. But I had
Speaker 1: started to feel better, and so I told my husband.
Speaker 1: My husband is my partner, not my provider, right, And
Speaker 1: so I said, listen, I'm feeling better now, I need
Speaker 1: to get back out there and and start making some money.
Speaker 1: Started auditioning again. I said, So I'm gonna go drive
Speaker 1: Uber because I got a plan. I said, when I
Speaker 1: go out here and drive Uber, I'm probably gonna get
Speaker 1: discovered in my car and I'm gonna pick up the
Speaker 1: director of producer or cast erector. They're gonna love me,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna just call you from the set. That's
Speaker 1: literally what I thought, right, And so I was dropping
Speaker 1: somebody all by a Whole Foods on December thirty of
Speaker 1: the seventeen. You know, I'm still just a couple of
Speaker 1: months into my Beagon journey at that point, and Whole
Speaker 1: Foods always got vegan options. So I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead, give me some breakfast. And I went
Speaker 1: in there and got a sandwich and it was called
Speaker 1: a t T l A. It was like a beacon
Speaker 1: bacon sandwich that I had never had that before. I said,
Speaker 1: a beacon bacon girl. Yeah, let me get there to
Speaker 1: add a pickle, babe. I come to you real quick, honey,
Speaker 1: real quick. I stopped the Whole food now I know
Speaker 1: they'd be having some vegan options. They got a tee
Speaker 1: teeth in l A And that's a tempting bacon, tomato,
Speaker 1: lettuce and avocado sand Yeah. When I tell you, I
Speaker 1: told myself. I said, I'm gonna eat half now and
Speaker 1: half laid Honey, I gotta take another by just so
Speaker 1: y'all can see Ord have mercy, don't northing, but just
Speaker 1: the baby's sing old food. But I get home terminifications
Speaker 1: on Honey and my phone was going off like an
Speaker 1: amber alert. I was like, what what's going on? And
Speaker 1: the video had over, uh like fifty thousand views, and
Speaker 1: I was like, who was watching this? Facebook is where
Speaker 1: I first went Bible January, and that's where my audience
Speaker 1: started growing. So I had from that day. He was
Speaker 1: always thousands of people watching in minutes, and my videos
Speaker 1: would always get millions of views on Facebook for the
Speaker 1: last two years. That's that was my my original fan
Speaker 1: base and platform. And I just got on TikTok in
Speaker 1: March of this year. Okay, so yeah, so that's not
Speaker 1: really what you had planned for yourself, but it kind
Speaker 1: of worked out. And I can relate to that as
Speaker 1: well because I'm a nurse by training and so I've
Speaker 1: been seen since. And then I had to kind of
Speaker 1: retire because Jada needed me to help her with children.
Speaker 1: Because every time when they were doing films wherever Will
Speaker 1: was working, we packed up the whole family and we
Speaker 1: went with him to do this film. It really really
Speaker 1: started from me. When I really had to just retire
Speaker 1: for real was when she got Matrix and we had
Speaker 1: to move to Australia and we were in Australia for
Speaker 1: like a year and a half. So I totally understand, like,
Speaker 1: that was not what I envisioned for myself, but that's
Speaker 1: exactly what I ended up having to do. And then,
Speaker 1: of course now I've landed here, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: not something that I saw for myself, but certainly a blessing.
Speaker 1: So how how have you settled into this, this career
Speaker 1: of yours right now? Because it's huge? How do you
Speaker 1: feel about that? Blessed? I'm so very grateful and and
Speaker 1: now I'm very much so a lot like you. And
Speaker 1: the fact that it definitely was not my plan. I
Speaker 1: never ever wanted to do anything for food ever. I
Speaker 1: like to eat, I like to cook for my family,
Speaker 1: but me cooking it was never a part of my plan.
Speaker 1: That's how, you know, God got a sense of human
Speaker 1: He be like, oh, you think you're gonna be okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you right. Yeah, And so it feels
Speaker 1: amazing because of the responses I get. You know, I
Speaker 1: have helped thousands and thousands of people that I would
Speaker 1: never meet, and to know that my purpose is greater
Speaker 1: than just me being here. It's to help others. And
Speaker 1: I've always loved to perform, and I still do, but
Speaker 1: to be able to have a purpose on my life,
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, I feel like this is where
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be all alone, even though it
Speaker 1: wasn't my plan, but it opened the doors to my dreams.
Speaker 1: And speaking of your husband and your your family, and
Speaker 1: you are now are doing videos with your family, what
Speaker 1: does that? You know? My family, they're my foundation, right,
Speaker 1: and so I don't exist without them. They are part
Speaker 1: of me. So when last year, when my daughter graduated
Speaker 1: high school, she told me she didn't want to go
Speaker 1: to college and she really didn't like school. And so
Speaker 1: she said, you don't want to be an entertainment I
Speaker 1: want to be you know, modeling and all these things.
Speaker 1: And I said, okay, well listen. And she scorgeous by
Speaker 1: the way, she looks just like you. Yeah she does.
Speaker 1: She's beautiful, thank you. And so I just told her,
Speaker 1: I said, well, look all right, I don't believe in
Speaker 1: forcing nobody to do nothing. My family is everything. Is
Speaker 1: an amazing thing. To be able to work with them
Speaker 1: and do things like that. All right, So I want
Speaker 1: to get back to Apatha, to some of your vegging recipes,
Speaker 1: because you know I have watched some of them. Oh girl,
Speaker 1: which one girl, because that foold be good and stuff
Speaker 1: of them don't look all that tasty to me. Have
Speaker 1: to the shrimp, the shrimp, the big biggest shrimp. I
Speaker 1: was like, girl, I do not want to taste that.
Speaker 1: I do not want to taste that. Well, you know why,
Speaker 1: because you are a real seafood lover. But just like me,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, we'll see, I don't have the miss
Speaker 1: seafood because I'm Presketerian. The vegan thing was just way,
Speaker 1: way too hard for me. I have to say though,
Speaker 1: that I am really trying to eat more plant based,
Speaker 1: and I want to go back to the to the
Speaker 1: fact that you don't you don't push your eating style
Speaker 1: onto your your family, because I know I have tried
Speaker 1: desperately in numerous ways to get my husband to eat
Speaker 1: more healthfully and it's been difficult. And it's that way
Speaker 1: with eating an exercise. He has um high blood pressure
Speaker 1: and he has a very strong history of heart disease
Speaker 1: in his family, and I really feel like a different
Speaker 1: eating style and regular exercise would be so beneficial for him.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, he's a crown
Speaker 1: ass man, you know what I mean. And a lot
Speaker 1: of times I feel like you gotta just step back
Speaker 1: and let people figure out their own situation because that's
Speaker 1: their business. I always tell people this, listen to your body.
Speaker 1: Don't listen to me. Listen to your body. And if
Speaker 1: you don't, that's also your business. Okay, then we keep
Speaker 1: for it. We keep on using all your sayings. We
Speaker 1: have to talk about them to Havatham because I love
Speaker 1: them all. It's what I can if I want to,
Speaker 1: because it's my business, and I love the I love
Speaker 1: the one that you use at the end of your video.
Speaker 1: So talk to me, how do you How did you
Speaker 1: come up with these catchphraises? And by the way, while
Speaker 1: you're talking about them, you need to come up with
Speaker 1: a catchphrase for me, okay, because I'm telling you they
Speaker 1: are so funny. So I just love them. So how
Speaker 1: did you come up with them? Tell people you know,
Speaker 1: do it like this contential business? I do it like
Speaker 1: this because it's my business. Like you know, I don't
Speaker 1: put with recipes. I cook from the spirit, because that's
Speaker 1: my business. You put as much as you want to
Speaker 1: in your kitchen. And I remember when I would go
Speaker 1: back and read the comments people will be putting that
Speaker 1: in quotations. I said, why do they keep saying that?
Speaker 1: Why did they keep typing that? Because I wouldn't watch.
Speaker 1: I just go live and be God. One day I
Speaker 1: was in the jim I said, let me watch this
Speaker 1: studio to see what they talk about. And I must
Speaker 1: have said, because it's my business. Thirty times I said, Lord,
Speaker 1: have mercies say that a lot, and it's just it's
Speaker 1: just how I am got it. That's wonderful. What would
Speaker 1: you say to to listeners out there who are going
Speaker 1: to work every day but you know, had the same
Speaker 1: dreams that you have living Bill's character? If I had
Speaker 1: never lived my life and went to those jobs that
Speaker 1: sometimes I hate it and sometimes stay were all right,
Speaker 1: would never build the care to within myself on how
Speaker 1: to play different characters right, how to be relatable in
Speaker 1: certain you know, circumstances, and to just not give up
Speaker 1: to just use those two steppings on their part of
Speaker 1: your story. But you also just have to remember to
Speaker 1: stay focused on the fact that it is temporary and
Speaker 1: you've got a bigger goal that you're trying to reach.
Speaker 1: But that's all right, It'll pass, right, And all experiences
Speaker 1: are lessons. They're just lessons, not even failures. I used
Speaker 1: to work for a manufacturing company like cosmetics and hair
Speaker 1: products all this where they were making and distribute, manufacturing
Speaker 1: and distribute. Can't nobody to tell me because I already know.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that's why you had me there. God, Okay,
Speaker 1: I used to work for UPS for five years in
Speaker 1: North Carolina. You can't tell me that you don't know
Speaker 1: how to ship no package. And I can tell you
Speaker 1: how to stupid package for the business. I can tell
Speaker 1: you how to pack it. I can tell you the
Speaker 1: international post all of that stuff, you know. And I
Speaker 1: also was a nurse. I d SENNA work, and so
Speaker 1: I'm very empathetic. I have a very very big part
Speaker 1: of my heart for the elderly. And I just am always,
Speaker 1: you know, sympathizing with people with being caregivers and understanding
Speaker 1: that and being able to talk to people about that.
Speaker 1: So every single job, it's it's for a reason, absolutely
Speaker 1: absolutely all right. As we wind down and wrap it up,
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is right around the corner. What are you fixing
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving dinners? Because I'm a strong believer that now.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I I eat like peskyterian ninety nine
Speaker 1: point nine percent of the time. But when it comes
Speaker 1: to holiday time, I have a sweet tooth. That's that's
Speaker 1: that is My biggest struggle is that sweet tooth. But
Speaker 1: other than that, when it's holiday time, I don't worry
Speaker 1: about eating mac and cheese. Like I want mac and
Speaker 1: cheese with real cheese. I don't want vegan cheese. I
Speaker 1: want mac and cheese. You know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna eat a roll. Yeah, you know, I'm still gonna
Speaker 1: stay away from the meat. Yeah, i wanna eat like
Speaker 1: it's the Hollywood. I'm gonna eat just like the holidays too.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I made back and cheese this
Speaker 1: morning for Steve Harvey and he said this ain't vegan.
Speaker 1: Wasn't vegan? Wow? My recipe. Everybody who comes and they tried,
Speaker 1: They're like, I'm not he was vegan. I said, I am.
Speaker 1: There's a way to do everything. I didn't go vegan
Speaker 1: because I ain't like how No I'm vegan food tapes Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I need the same feeling. I need the same tape,
Speaker 1: and I had to figure it out. But we have
Speaker 1: mac and cheese, we have greens, we have yams, we
Speaker 1: got dress and I got potato salad. I'm gonna slice
Speaker 1: my tomatoes. I'm gonna put my vinek in salt and pepper.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do all of that, and you know, every
Speaker 1: now then we'll do a celebration roast, you know, which
Speaker 1: is like the veacon turkey or whatever substitute. But I
Speaker 1: have everything that I've always had, with the exception of
Speaker 1: any me. Let me ask you, this is my last
Speaker 1: stupid question. Do you have any design to do a cookboy?
Speaker 1: I actually writing one. Yes, I am. It's gonna It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a while because I'm writing two books at
Speaker 1: one time. I'm doing an inspirational book and I'm doing
Speaker 1: a cook book. I want to feed the soul first
Speaker 1: and then with be the stomach. Okay, well, I need
Speaker 1: copies of both, so just make sure you don't forget
Speaker 1: about gams. Send them my way. That mac and cheese
Speaker 1: that you describe it sounds really, really good. I might
Speaker 1: be able to get rere a break on our mac
Speaker 1: and cheese if yours is better, all right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: wind down. We're gonna rhun down and roll on out
Speaker 1: of here with our rapid fire questions for you. Tell
Speaker 1: me what book you're currently reading. I'm well, I'm writing one,
Speaker 1: so I'm not reading any because I don't like to
Speaker 1: be this way, so I'm not reading in there, but
Speaker 1: I am writing. Okay, Well, I will accept that. And
Speaker 1: you already said you're you're writing this spiritual inspirational book
Speaker 1: and the cook Okay, so we're gonna look forward to
Speaker 1: that one thing you want to get off your chest, Tabitha.
Speaker 1: You know, stop judging people period, right. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that more and more every day, especially on
Speaker 1: social media. Perfect strangers who will never me have a
Speaker 1: whole lot to say about each other, and it's sickening
Speaker 1: to me. And I think that we should not do that.
Speaker 1: You know. I even wrote a song about that last week.
Speaker 1: I just honestly feel like I'm gonna do me because
Speaker 1: it's my business. You do you because that's your business.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna do because I'm free, and I want
Speaker 1: people to to do the same. Yeah. I think it
Speaker 1: would the world would be a better place spread more
Speaker 1: love than hate. That is fact that is fact. No,
Speaker 1: really that Yeah, people have a whole lot to say
Speaker 1: about somebody never laid eyes on, a never met. That's
Speaker 1: very easy to do. Meet me out in the street, exactly, exactly. Okay,
Speaker 1: what's a model that you live by? Tabatha? I am enough.
Speaker 1: I am enough just as I am however God created me.
Speaker 1: She's enough. I'm enough. I love that. Yeah, thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Tabatha. You are a joy. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you are enjoy and I look forward to your
Speaker 1: spiritual your inspirational book and your cookbook. And thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Please tell the audience where
Speaker 1: they can find you on social media. Absolutely, you can
Speaker 1: find me on social media and I am tapped at
Speaker 1: the brown just about everywhere. TikTok, Facebook, uh, Instagram, YouTube,
Speaker 1: tapped at the ground right. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining positively gay. You know we have to close it
Speaker 1: out right. They're gonna bout your business and have yourself
Speaker 1: a good day. But even if you can't have a
Speaker 1: good don't you they're go messing up. Nobody else is here.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Ti, I love you and thank you for
Speaker 1: having me appreciate So here are my takeaways from my
Speaker 1: conversation with Tabitha. Number one, remember your why, don't just
Speaker 1: follow what's trending when it comes to your food choices.
Speaker 1: Number two, you don't need to force your choices onto
Speaker 1: anyone else because that's your business, not theirs. And number three,
Speaker 1: if you're not quite where you want to be in
Speaker 1: your career path, it's only temporary. Don't give up. Let
Speaker 1: every experience be part of the lesson and part of
Speaker 1: the journey. Thanks for listening, everybody. I hope you enjoyed
Speaker 1: Tabitha Brown as much as I did. Rate, review, and
Speaker 1: follow the show. Share your thoughts on the episode and
Speaker 1: let me know what you're cooking for the holidays. Follow
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