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Speaker 1: the twentieth pick. So if I was a betting man

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Speaker 1: right now, one I would say Kenny Pickett's job is

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Speaker 1: in major jeopardy. And two, like, I think they are

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Speaker 1: going to bring in competition and the guy to compete

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Speaker 1: with him in training camp. Ryan Tannehill would be a

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Speaker 1: guy to keep an eye on trading for Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: But there will be another quote unquote bigger name quarterback

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Speaker 1: on the Pittsburgh Steelers. And listen, Mike Tomlin's gonna stay

434
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Speaker 1: and he's going to continue to be the head coach

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. He had to get a good offensive coordinator,

436
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Speaker 1: and based on what we saw in Tennessee with Arthur Smith,

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Speaker 1: this is a home run. Higher. I'm sorry, but if

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Speaker 1: I've had you as my defensive coordinator, Like, let's say

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Speaker 1: next year, Robert Sala gets fired from the Jets and

440
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Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes either gets fired or gets a head coaching job,

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Speaker 1: and the forty nine Ers need a defensive coordinator. Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan would not have to interview Robert Sala. He would

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Speaker 1: just rehire Robert Sala, Right, Like when Josh McDaniels came

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Speaker 1: back to the Patriots after Denver and Saint Louis, Belichick

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Speaker 1: didn't reinterview him, he just hired him, right. So when

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Speaker 1: I saw that Brandon Staley is interviewing with the Rams,

447
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: that's fucking weird. I'm sorry. Now, if it was a

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00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: call like, hey man, how you doing, We're interested in

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Speaker 1: having you, would you be interested in coming back, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, just talk about like what happened with the

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Speaker 1: charges of all that stuff. Totally understand that you want

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Speaker 1: to consider that an interview. But if like we're sitting

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Speaker 1: down and re talking defense, that's a pretty big red

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Speaker 1: flag on brand. SAIDA. They literally work together. They coached

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Speaker 1: together for a year. Now. I understand it was twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty in crazy California, so they probably weren't together in

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Speaker 1: person as much as obviously as much as normal. But still,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If you need to reinterview a guy for

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Speaker 1: a position who'd already held that position for you and

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Speaker 1: had success, I probably don't want that individual back on

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Speaker 1: the staff. And this is not trying to kick Brandon

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Speaker 1: Saley when he was down. I really don't care. I

463
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Speaker 1: told you Packer fans like keep an eye on him

464
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Speaker 1: for your job. But I understand Lafloor interviewing Brandon Saley.

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Speaker 1: He's never worked for Matt Lafleur. He worked for Sean McVay. Like,

466
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Speaker 1: if Domico or Sala were available, you don't need an

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Speaker 1: interview him, Like, I'm sorry. I would imagine did Andy

468
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: Reid interview Steve Spagnola? If anything, it was like, hey, Steve,

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Speaker 1: how you doing what you want this job? We want

470
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Speaker 1: you to coach here. Shouldn't you know? The guy? Very bizarre? Uh,

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Speaker 1: what else is going on? I saw Albert Breer tell

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Speaker 1: Rich Eisen that one big reason that vrabel and Belichick

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Speaker 1: now Belichick because he wants to be the GM and

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Speaker 1: the head coach. That Atlanta pulled back like they would

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Speaker 1: have loved to just have him as the head coach.

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Speaker 1: But it's hard to just have Belichick as the head

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Speaker 1: coach because he also wants a huge role in picking

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Speaker 1: the players. But one thing with both those guys is

479
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Speaker 1: everyone's on eggshells in the building. And Albert was kind

480
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Speaker 1: of laughing. He was like, one thing that these owners

481
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Speaker 1: really just want is for everyone to kind of get

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Speaker 1: along and everyone to be friendly, and I thought, like,

483
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Speaker 1: that's insane, Like this is football. Ideally, if you're a

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Speaker 1: head coach, I would expect you to be cordial to

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Speaker 1: an owner. But if I owned a team and my

486
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Speaker 1: general man or my head coach was good and he

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Speaker 1: was winning, I don't really think i'd care that much

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Speaker 1: how big of an asshole he was. I understand that

489
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Speaker 1: this is not high school sports. Here, a lot of

490
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: money is on the line. The more we win, the

491
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Speaker 1: more I financially benefit. And I think anyone hiring people

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Speaker 1: because they look at him like friendly or it's going

493
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: to be easy to work with is taking the wrong tactic.

494
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Speaker 1: In the sport of football. It should be an uncomfortable environment.

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Speaker 1: People should be on their toes. I'm sorry, not everyone

496
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Speaker 1: needs to be miserable twenty four to seven, but I

497
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Speaker 1: think you better be very careful about worrying about that,

498
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Speaker 1: because I think Mike Varibel's really good head coach, and

499
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry he's not mister happy, go lucky, smiley guy

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Speaker 1: all the time. I just can't imagine owning a team

501
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: and having that bother me that much. Now. Maybe it's

502
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: because I saw firsthand Jim Harbaugh with the forty nine

503
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: ers made people uncomfortable, but all he was doing was winning.

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Speaker 1: And then when they fired him, they wanted someone who

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Speaker 1: was just positive and would listen. And that's a huge reason.

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Speaker 1: The owner wants someone that's gonna listen to them, and

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Speaker 1: they hired Jim tom Sula and the building borderline burt

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Speaker 1: to the ground. So when you're so worried about everyone's feelings,

509
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Speaker 1: you're usually consumed with the wrong thing in this profession.

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Speaker 1: So I don't disagree with him because I think he's right.

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Speaker 1: Because if Mike Vrabel had a rep of like, oh,

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Speaker 1: gets along with everyone, everyone likes him, he would have

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Speaker 1: been hired immediately. I even I mean, listen, he's not

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Speaker 1: gonna ask me, but I'd tell Adam Peters, you're crazy

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Speaker 1: if you're not talking to Mike Grabel. I think like

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Speaker 1: I would be all over if I was. If I

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Speaker 1: was John Schneider in Seattle, he'd be my higher. But

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Speaker 1: maybe he just they're scared off. He won't listen to them,

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00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: which is understandable. But if I'm the owner, like, get

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Speaker 1: me the best coach and then figure it out from there.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, there's a lot of random guys interviewing

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Speaker 1: and taking offensive and defensive coordinator jobs. And I just

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Speaker 1: got me thinking today, like I saw Jeff Idzick's kid

524
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Speaker 1: is going to Panthers to be the offensive coordinator, and

525
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys just bounce around. In two years,

526
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Speaker 1: half these guys are all gonna get run out of town. Like,

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Speaker 1: you really have two options the moment you become an

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. You either are gonna be a future head

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Speaker 1: coaching candidate and people are gonna be interviewing you to

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Speaker 1: be a head coach in two or three years, or

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Speaker 1: you're getting run out of town and it's gonna be ugly.

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Speaker 1: There is no middle ground as an offensive coordinator. Defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: guys can stay a little longer, right if they're a

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Speaker 1: little older or not interviewing whatever. But as an offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: there's two options. Within twenty four months, you're either going

536
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Speaker 1: to have a lot of positive buzz about you, or

537
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: they're driving your ass to the airport. You are either

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00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: doing zoom initial interviews with owners and gms, or you

539
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: are fired. And I remember an offensive coordinator told me

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Speaker 1: this years ago. He said, when you get the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to be in oc as a position coach. You were

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Speaker 1: obligated to take the job because I remember asking like,

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Speaker 1: why would you want this job? Why wouldn't you just

544
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Speaker 1: go be, you know, a quarterback coach somewhere, And he's like,

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Speaker 1: because once you're in the cycle, you're just in it,

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Speaker 1: and financially you go from you know, five six hundred

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Speaker 1: grand to two million dollars and then you just viewed

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Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator at minimum for a couple jobs,

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Speaker 1: even if you get run out of talent after the

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Speaker 1: first one, so it changes the course of your career.

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00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: You can get pigeonholed as a position coach and never

552
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: get a shot. So why once you become a defensive

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00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: or offensive coordinator, even if it goes poorly, typically get

554
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Speaker 1: a second chance, and then if it goes well, you

555
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: become a head coach. You are so close to just

556
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Speaker 1: doing what a lot of these guys dreams are beside

557
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson being a head coach as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 1: So it's just something to keep an eye on all

559
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Speaker 1: the coaches flying around and interviewing and hired left and right. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's dive into a little thing we call the mail bag.

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Speaker 1: The mail bag is simple It's my name at John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff two f's, and I have an Instagram account firing

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Speaker 1: those dms. I will attempt to find your dms with

564
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Speaker 1: a million other young males, and we will answer your

565
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Speaker 1: question here on the show very easy at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: fireing the dms. Niners Fan, I'm a new subscriber to

567
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Speaker 1: your channel. I have a question, what is the reason

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Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers struggling against the run in

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Speaker 1: the postseason. I think this one's pretty easy, is right now?

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Speaker 1: The forty nine ers have some defensive linemen who are

571
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Speaker 1: not good against the run. Chase Young is their starting

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00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: defensive end, not a very good player. Javon Hargrave is

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Speaker 1: not a run stopper, not really his deal. And even

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Speaker 1: Eric Armstead is getting up there in age. He's been

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Speaker 1: banged up throughout the year. I wouldn't exactly call him

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Speaker 1: Gilbert Brown in his prime. So you have some defensive

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Speaker 1: linemen who are constantly getting blocked. That means if they're

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Speaker 1: getting blocked, you can get offensive linemen up to the

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Speaker 1: second level. While Fred and Drake Greenlaw are very good players,

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Speaker 1: if you get a body on him, I wouldn't consider them.

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Speaker 1: Dick butkiss, they're not stacking shedding guys. They have to

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Speaker 1: run by guys, and right now it feels like a

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Speaker 1: lot of their guys are getting blocked, a lot of

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Speaker 1: their guys. And the other thing is on what Ben

585
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Speaker 1: Johnson did an on real job of and he just

586
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: kept going over and over their angles right now in

587
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: pursuit are fucking hideous. Defensive football in the open field

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00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: at the NFL level and in college football because of

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00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 1: the athletes you're playing, is all about angles and the

590
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: best players, the best defensive players like Fred Warner in

591
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: the open field is a great tackler because he takes

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Speaker 1: great angles. Well, the Niner safeties right now, the angles

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Speaker 1: they're taking, and maybe it's like, how do you prepare

594
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Speaker 1: for playing Gibbs on the Lions. It's hard. It's hard.

595
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: Your scout team running back is not giving you the

596
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: same look. But his speed was on a different level.

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Speaker 1: I think the one bright spot would be Aaron Jones

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Speaker 1: and Gibbson Montgomery. That's beside Christian McCaffrey and like Alvin

599
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Speaker 1: Kamara and healthy Nick Chubb. I mean, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: the best running games in the league. Isaiah Pacheco is

601
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: a good player. I wouldn't put him on those guys level,

602
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: so hopefully there If you're a Niner fan, their run

603
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: game is just not as good as these other teams.

604
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: It's not as explosive, but god, it's been ugly. I

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00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: hear you question. I'd love for you to answer on

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Speaker 1: the pod. Why would a guy like Ben Johnson turn

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00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 1: down a head coaching gig loves the skill guys too

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Speaker 1: much in Detroit. Well, we talked about it on the

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Speaker 1: podcast earlier on a different video, and if you're listening

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Speaker 1: on the podcast earlier in the pod, I really think

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Speaker 1: it's simple. When you like where you work and money

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00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: is good, you are more likely to say no. The

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Speaker 1: best business advice I've ever gotten is the most powerful

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Speaker 1: thing you could ever say to someone in business, a

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Speaker 1: potential guy who's trying to hire you a partner or whatever,

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00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: contract negotiation. No, I'm not interested, I'm good. Who do?

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Speaker 1: People usually want what they can't have. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's doing it because he's like, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: like a girl or a guy turning you down try

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Speaker 1: to get you to chase. I think it's simply he

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel he's ready. He's thirty seven years old, he's

622
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: making three or four million dollars, and he has a

623
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Speaker 1: loaded roster, and he likes working for the head coach.

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Speaker 1: I think too often in life we worry about and

625
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: listen any ambitious person listening to this. It's a hard

626
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: balance to have. But like sometimes when you got it

627
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: good and you're young, you get a lot of life ahead.

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00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: And looking at Ben Johnson's skinny guy former quarterback, I've

629
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Speaker 1: been the guy who's gonna live till he's eighty five,

630
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Speaker 1: ninety years old, probably could coach till his seventies. It's like,

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't like the opportunities, what if he doesn't

632
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: like the quarterbacks in this draft? So he's like, I'm

633
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: not that interested in Washington. You look at Seattle, You're like, well,

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00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: who's gonna play quarterback? Fellow bald brother, my guy Alex.

635
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: With the Bills aging roster and Josh Allen's massive contract,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Buffalo trading away older players

637
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Speaker 1: to retool? They obviously have missed their window with the

638
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: Digs Josh Combo. Potential trades could include the often injured

639
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: White and Milano tandem. Could we get some mid round

640
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: picks for Poyer and Hide. I don't think so. I

641
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: love those guys, but they are often injured and close

642
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: to out the door anyway. I don't think we can

643
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: get a ham Sandwich von Miller, but options there as well.

644
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: Is Diggs still worth the first round pick? He's not

645
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: not at this age now at the treader on US tires.

646
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. If they're healthy, Milano and Trey Digs

647
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: or Trey White are really good players. Did White terror's

648
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: achilles or tearors ACL? One of them tore their achilles, right,

649
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: and one of them tore their ACL. So even if

650
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: you are a really good player, when you have season

651
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: ending injury, your value on the open market is awful.

652
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: Right If your value, let's just play one out of

653
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: one hundred, if you're like an eighty five ninety player,

654
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: like ninety out of one hundred, like you're a high

655
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: end Pro Bowl type guy. If you tear your ACL, like,

656
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: what's your value in Mark seventy's? So you're selling these

657
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: guys in a weird way. You're almost better on bringing

658
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: them back, reworking their contract, pushing their money back and

659
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: hoping they can still be good because you get nothing

660
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: for them. So you guys are in a tough spot.

661
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: You really are. With Ben Johnson returning to the Lions,

662
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: I saw the commander's head coaching vacancy is now between

663
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: three defensive coordinators. I think it's the Lions, it's Aaron Glenn,

664
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald. I don't know who the third is. I

665
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: think the other guy you're talking about, Weaver is the

666
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: dB coach. With such a high pick in this draft

667
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: and new quarterback likely at the helm, do you agree

668
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: with their decision to stray away from an offensive minded

669
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: head coach that could be there developing a new quarterback.

670
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: Who are their options? Would be my question? Like if

671
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's, if they wanted him and he won't take

672
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: the job, what are they supposed to do? Like if

673
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: this was college football, you'd be like, offer Sean McVay

674
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars, right, hey, Kyle come back? Will

675
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: for you one hundred and seventy five million dollars? You

676
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: would just you would do something like that. But this isn't.

677
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: You can't do that. So the best coach is available

678
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: are the coordinators. I personally what I would have done,

679
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: I would have hired Mike Vrabel and brought Arthur Smith

680
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: and draft the guy number two. Overall, that's what I

681
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: would do. Mike McDonald clearly is a really good coach.

682
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: I'd be really interested. But I think I saw Benjamin Albright,

683
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: who covers the the Broncos and knows of the league.

684
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: He x channeled this out formerly known as the old

685
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: tweet machine. That A big thing in these interviews if

686
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: you're a defensive coach, is not asking you who do

687
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: you want as your offensive coordinator? You have to have

688
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: a contingent offensive coordinator for when that guy gets hired away.

689
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: So if you say, if I'm Mike Vrabel and I'm interviewing,

690
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: and I say, Arthur Smith is going to be my

691
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, then I would ask, well, in two years,

692
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: if we have a lot of success and he gets hired,

693
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: who are you replacing him with? And if you don't

694
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: have a good answer, it's like a demerit or a

695
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: negative on your interview, It's like that's a problem. Honestly,

696
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I think that's smart, like, you bet you

697
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: better have some options, which is such bullshit because so

698
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: much can change in two years. Who the hell knows.

699
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: But I do think that's a lot would be predicated

700
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: on who's going to be the coordinator, and if the coordinator,

701
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: if you draft Drake May and in two years Drake

702
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: May is like a pro bowler, that guy's going to

703
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: become a head coach. Question for the pod wife's account

704
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: as a frustrated Ravens fan, knowing the potential this team

705
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: had this year, is there any explanation for why the

706
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: Ravens would abandon the run game? There were many points

707
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: in the game up until the fourth quarter where the

708
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: Ravens could have afforded to have a long drive and

709
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 1: eight o'clock, you almost can't even say that running didn't

710
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: work since they barely ran the ball. Do you think

711
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: the Ravens coaching staff thought they needed Lamar to play

712
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: like Mahomes to beat him. I think that would just

713
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: be so naive to think that, especially last week when

714
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I forget the exact number, but he ran

715
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: for over seventy yards. He had so many runs at

716
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: seven to ten yards, and to not run Lamar, who

717
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: is faster than Josh outside the tackles, I'd be lying

718
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: if I wasn't bitter because I put a lot of

719
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: money on Lamar Jackson over like eighty yards. I basically

720
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: parlayed them winning in him over eighty yards. And early

721
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: in the game when they ran that fourth and one

722
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: play and he got like eighteen twenty yards, I'm like, God,

723
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna do this with ease. And then they just

724
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: tried to throw him like he's John Elway or Dan Marino.

725
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: Part of being a coach is doing whatever you especially

726
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: in a playoff game. Do you know it's one thing

727
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: in the regular season that hey, we might have to

728
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: lose this game, but the big picture will find out

729
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: something about the guy. There's no evaluation going on. If

730
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: you ran Lamar every single play, that's what you have

731
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: to do to win the game. That's what you do.

732
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: A playoff game is a kitchen sink game. For as

733
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: bad as it was, like the Lamar situation even worse

734
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: on Todd Munkin, it's one of those you can't you

735
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: can't shake to not give your star quarterback who can run,

736
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: who is the one of the greatest runners, if not

737
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: the greatest running quarterback of all time, the ball constantly.

738
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: I would have ran quarterback power like once a every

739
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: three downs. I mean, we're running quarterback sweep slash power

740
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: however you wanna, however you describe it. I'm pulling guards

741
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: and tackles, leading the way, lead blocker. What was he

742
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,479
Speaker 1: doing for the mailback? Do you think there are any

743
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: relatively well known NFL players that should could revive their

744
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: career by playing in the UFL. I think the most

745
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: obvious example is Trey Lance. Well, Trey Lance makes like

746
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: seven million dollars play in the NFL, so it'd be

747
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: pretty big risk to leave the Cowboys go play in

748
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: the Rocks League for a couple hundred grand. If you suck,

749
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: you're screwed. So I don't think he's a bad example.

750
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: I think it has to be a guy like out

751
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: of the league, you know, like a quarterback. I'm trying

752
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: to think, you know, my brain's not working. I was

753
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: gonna say Deshaun Kaiser, But even that's a bad example,

754
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: you know, like a guy like a fringe quarterback, Like

755
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: if Carson Wentz hadn't got the Rams job, Carson Wentz

756
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: one hundred pc should have gone. He's not working anyway,

757
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: if you're on a team's roster, it doesn't make sense

758
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: to go to the UFL or XFL or whatever the

759
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: hell is called. Carson Wentz. He's he's going into his

760
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: fourth year, he's drafted third overall, like he's got a

761
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: lot of money coming to him. And again, if he's

762
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: not an act if you're a player, it just wouldn't

763
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: go very well. Although I probably already know the answer,

764
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Adam Silver's extension until twenty

765
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: and thirty? Is an NBA commissioner, I got so many

766
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: people asking me about this. In the NBA, NFL, or

767
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, those leagues don't operate like a Fortune

768
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: five hundred company in the sense of they would hire

769
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 1: someone outside the family because, I guess, in the realist

770
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: way to say it, there's a lot of shady shit

771
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: going on, and these sports leagues, the amount of money

772
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: that's on the line, you can't afford to hire some

773
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: dude like Jamie Diamond's number two and then bring him

774
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: in and have it not work out and then him

775
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: start spilling the beans. I'm not saying like illegal activity,

776
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: but there is a reason that all these leagues. Rob

777
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: Manfred worked in the league, Roger Goodell worked in the league.

778
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: Adam Silver was David Stern's number two. Like if Adam

779
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: Silver left, they would just hire someone else from the NBA.

780
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, the NBA, I don't think. I don't think

781
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: Adam Silver's any good, but I'm not surprised at all

782
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: they are keeping him around. You don't have any other options,

783
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: I think. I think it's really that simple. And they're technical.

784
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they're still making money. It's not like the

785
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 1: things going bankrupt. Hi, John, I'm Marco and I'm in Monterey, Mexico,

786
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: A big fan of your podcast and a diehard Niner fan.

787
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: I was listening to you talk about how much the

788
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: NFL is growing in popularity, and I think you didn't

789
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: consider the insane amount of fans the NFL has in

790
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: Mexico and other countries. A lot of people in the

791
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: US don't really understand, but the Niner, cowboy and Steeler

792
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: fan bases down here is just so incredibly It's actually

793
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: is so incredible, it's actually crazy. Niners are probably one

794
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: of the most important things in my life, lol. And

795
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: I know just so many people that feel the way

796
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: about their teams. It's a good point. I did not

797
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: I did not think about that. I don't think when

798
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: the TV ratings, when they factor in you know, fifty

799
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: seven million people, they don't factor in international. It's a

800
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: big problem, like with the ratings in uh, like when

801
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: the Toronto Raptors were in the NBA finals. So like

802
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: that rating part of the popularity. I hear what you're saying,

803
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: and I'm not disagreeing, but like if a lot of

804
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: people are watching the super Bowl in Germany or Mexico

805
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: or wherever, it doesn't I mean factor in so at

806
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: least the number I was talking about yesterday. But I

807
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: hear you, and that's why I think they keep going

808
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: these international games. Niners have played in Mexico, Chiefs played

809
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: in Mexico. Steelers I don't think they played in Mexico,

810
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: but they played in Europe. I'm a religious listener. How

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00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: I start every morning, thank you? I see the Ben

812
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: is thaying in Detroit. Do you think Brad Holmes will

813
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: decide next year to make him the head coach if

814
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: Dan doesn't take the next step. I don't know, man.

815
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: I think Dan Campbell's doing a pretty good job. I

816
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: think when you watch Dan Campbell press conferences and I've

817
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 1: said this all, he gets this, you know, I would

818
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: say he gets pigeonholed. Is this like tough guy, meathead?

819
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: When you watch some talkies. He's a pretty smooth cat.

820
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: I think Dan Campbell's pretty smart. I think the perception

821
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: of Dan from the casual fan kind of meat heady

822
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: is a little different than the actual guy. I think

823
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: he has meathhead qualities. I mean he six four, two fifty,

824
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: you know, listened to Metallica slams double ventes again. I'm

825
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: not acting like he's not a football guy, but I

826
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: think he's a little more. I think it's intellectually dishonest

827
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: the way the media kind of portrays him. But I

828
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: would say there's some pressure on him, for sure. I

829
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: don't think they would necessarily do that. I mean, he

830
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: just was the head coach of a team. But we've

831
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: seen enough teams like do you think the Eagles regret

832
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: not firing Sirianni last year and just making change like

833
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: in the head coach you didn't get cross their mind

834
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: like this year? Should we have done that? How can

835
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: or not? I watch all different ties of football podcasts

836
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: and shows, and yours is my favorite. Thank you, Liam.

837
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: Quick question for the Seahawks. Got a weird offseason ahead

838
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: with salary cap and my biggest question is with our

839
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: roster and the amount of talent. I do feel we

840
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: are just a piece or two away. What the hell

841
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: do we do at quarterback? Well, the only way to

842
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: truly upgrade a quarterback at this point in time, because

843
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: you can't sign a free agent because you know, make

844
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: some money, but you're not gonna sign Kirk Cousins. Is

845
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: going to be trade up in the draft and kind

846
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: of hope you strike oil. And really, if you trade

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Speaker 1: up in the draft, can you just get like, can

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Speaker 1: you get your Kirk Cousins or Dak Prescott or even

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Speaker 1: your Brock Purty in the third or fourth round, or

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Speaker 1: maybe even in the first round. Can you just get

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00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: a guy who can immediately play? Because your offensive line solid,

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00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker's a stud, and your wide receivers are good.

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00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: Your defense needs some fixing. But you know, we'll see

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00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: who the next head coach is. Which your search has

855
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: been a little bizarre. I'm not gonna lie. I feel

856
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: like you. I have no clue, no clue what's happening.

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00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: Could they be hiring someone from the Chiefs. Doesn't feel

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00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: like they haven't interviewed they haven't interviewed anyone in the Niners. Like,

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00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: what's the hold up here? It's been a very very

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Speaker 1: bizarre search as someone to just I watched a lot

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Speaker 1: of NFC West football obviously, just followed that division those

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00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: teams really closely. I don't know, I have a hard

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Speaker 1: time gauging what the hell is happening, I really do.

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Speaker 1: My guess would be, though your quarterback next year. I

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Speaker 1: bet Gino starts the year as the quarterback, and I

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Speaker 1: would be I bet with your first couple of picks

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Speaker 1: you take a quarterback. If I was a betting man,

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Speaker 1: i'd say the second round. But I would definitely say

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Speaker 1: trading up in the draft and drafting guy in the

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Speaker 1: first round. It's on the table, you know, maybe trading

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Speaker 1: a first round pick next year and going from I

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Speaker 1: don't know what pick, let's just pick a number you

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Speaker 1: might have, seventeen eighteen, going from like eighteen nineteen to nine.

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Speaker 1: I could see you remember the Bears did that a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. They went from twenty to eleven

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Speaker 1: and they got Justin Fields. I think that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what I could see you guys doing this up coming year.

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Speaker 1: The volume h