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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Better Happy Hour. I'm Jeous.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for Rea.

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Speaker 1: We are here today with Alicia. Alicia, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Better Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: Hey guys, thanks for having back.

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Speaker 1: You were just saying you believe that dogs want gifts.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: I think animals are much presence. Yeah, Christmas or Honka,

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Speaker 4: whatever you celebrate. But yeah, he basically told me that

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Speaker 4: dogs they get the idea of like gift giving, so

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Speaker 4: it's very important you put a Christmas tree, a present

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Speaker 4: under the Christmas tree from them, so like on Christmas

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Speaker 4: Day or whenever you're opening your gifts, they're part of

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Speaker 4: the ceremony. And yeah, my dog's getting a little bit

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Speaker 4: too excited and starting to open some Christmas presents early.

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting though that they see wrapped boxes and

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Speaker 2: they're like, I want to know what's inside.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: I mean he was going for something that was like

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Speaker 4: a scented candle if I pell, so maybe he's going

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Speaker 4: off like the smell, but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We've put a gift under the tree that's like to

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Speaker 2: mommy from Bagel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or from Bagel to like my sister or my

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Speaker 4: mom or whoever. I'll get presents for other people from Bagel.

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Speaker 1: My mom does that for our.

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Speaker 2: Dog, for Winston.

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Speaker 3: That's adorable.

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Speaker 2: Get Winston gifts more often.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know it should bring We should bring

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Speaker 1: him a gift.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a good boy, Bagel confirms Winston would like

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Speaker 4: more gifts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're I think I know this, but you're you're

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Speaker 1: in Florida right.

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Speaker 4: I'm in LA right now, but my mom's in Florida,

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Speaker 4: and I usually do spend the holidays back home in Florida,

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Speaker 4: but this will be one of the first years that

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Speaker 4: I'm spending it out in LA with my sister, and

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Speaker 4: my Mom's gonna fly out and do a little Christmas

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Speaker 4: here together, just the three of us.

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Speaker 1: Are you living in LA? Are you just there visiting

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Speaker 1: your sister.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been in LA for probably the last six

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Speaker 4: months permanently. Okay, so I've been living and working out

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Speaker 4: here and in between you know, shows, I can go

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Speaker 4: to ordered to visit, but I really primarily spent most

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Speaker 4: of my time on the West Coast since actually most

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Speaker 4: of all of twenty twenty five. Now.

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Speaker 1: Can't believe you love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: You know, It's like kind of a homecoming for me

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Speaker 4: because I always wanted to live in LA never had visited,

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Speaker 4: and then after college I applied to some jobs out

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Speaker 4: moved out how to live with some random roommates online,

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Speaker 4: and I just fell in love. And I worked out

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Speaker 4: here for a couple of years up until the pandemic

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Speaker 4: hit and then my lease was up, and so naturally

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Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, I'll go quarantine in Florida with

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Speaker 4: my family for a couple months, and you know the

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Speaker 4: story goes. It was a lot longer than that, so

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Speaker 4: it took me some time to get back to the

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Speaker 4: West Coast. But I do feel like almost like I'm

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Speaker 3: In a way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think you could are use somebody? Could

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Speaker 1: you ever live in cold weather?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: I mean I have.

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Speaker 4: I did do New York for a couple of years

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Speaker 4: and that was brutal, And then being born in England, like,

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Speaker 3: Very chilly there most of the year, especially in the north.

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Speaker 4: But I would prefer not to if I have my choice,

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Speaker 4: I would absolutely prefer Like, Oh, I think a week

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Speaker 4: of snow is great, build a snowman, go skiing, do

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Speaker 4: a bikini on Christmas Day.

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Speaker 3: That's so fine with me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Joe always says, and I do agree, Like

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Speaker 2: leaving Christmas Day or the day after Christmas to go

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Speaker 4: It is, but I guess it's also like the grass

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Speaker 4: is always greener, right, because like then in return, when

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Speaker 4: you're in Florida, I have so many family members and

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Speaker 4: friends that complain like it's so weird that we don't

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Speaker 3: And it's like you want what you can't have.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do like a chili holiday season, like I

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Speaker 1: I just want to leave. I just want to leave

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Speaker 1: Christmas night. I want to leave Christmas night and then

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Speaker 1: come back in April.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and starting the new year doesn't need to be

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Speaker 4: dark and rainy and cold for like the next couple months.

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Speaker 4: I think the day after Christmas like we should wrap

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Speaker 1: Well it is, I'm like, yeah, and like this is

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Speaker 1: a nice time of year. In New York, but like still,

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Speaker 1: it's like I was walking home yesterday and it was

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Speaker 4: That's another thing is like seasonal depression is so real,

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Speaker 4: and I think when I don't get as much sunset sunshine.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's because I grew up like a lot in

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Speaker 4: Florida where we had that, But something about not getting

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Speaker 4: the sun is like, we'll put me in a funk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, I agree. I need I need

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Speaker 1: more sun myself. I'm very pale right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah next to Serena, you're always going to be pale.

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Speaker 3: I hate just got that good tan.

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Speaker 2: You're never gonna catch up on this mellon in. But

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Speaker 2: last time we chatted with you, you had just enjoyed

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Speaker 2: a lot of sun on batt Or in Paradise and

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Speaker 2: we caught up with you kind of mid season. You

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Speaker 2: couldn't say everything, but we had an awesome chat.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 2: Let's just touch base quickly on like everything unfolded. You

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Speaker 2: kind of had it out with Cat and we recently

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Speaker 2: have seen posts that have confirmed Kat and Dale have

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Speaker 2: likely broken up. Were you aware of this? What have

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Speaker 2: you heard? Are you still interested in Dale? Where are

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Speaker 2: we at with all of this like love triangle esque situation?

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Speaker 3: That's so funny, you know.

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Speaker 4: I don't keep up with like what Cat and Dale

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Speaker 4: have been doing post the show, so I don't know

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised if they have split up, but.

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Speaker 4: I think that's just you know, I'm a I'm a

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Speaker 4: pretty big believer that in time, the truth comes out,

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Speaker 4: to like champion any breakups, so I wish them both

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Speaker 4: I don't have an interest in Dale anymore, you know.

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Speaker 4: I think it was one thing on the beach in Paradise.

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Speaker 4: Had we had the opportunity to it is something I

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Speaker 4: and especially with him and the Cat drama, I just

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Speaker 4: don't think that that the same guy who is going

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Speaker 4: a serious relationship with me. So, for all intents and purposes,

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Speaker 4: I date because I want a husband, I want to

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Speaker 4: have kids, I want to start a family, and I'm

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Speaker 4: don't look back moving forward. But that's not surprising to hear.

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Speaker 1: Are you dating anyone now? Are you currently dating at least?

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Speaker 3: No? No, God, no, No, I wish I was.

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Speaker 4: I'm just like I said, like I'm I wouldn't say

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Speaker 4: I'm picky. I'm just I don't want to date just

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Speaker 4: spend my Friday nights on the sofa with my little

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Speaker 3: And I think a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of people date at this age just because it's fun.

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Speaker 4: Like I have a lot of friends who love to

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Speaker 4: go out on the first date, and they like, they

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Speaker 4: love to have that, like you know, the first match.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't like that, like I don't like

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Speaker 1: But but how do you know if it's not going

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Speaker 1: to go somewhere, if you don't go on the date.

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Speaker 4: And that is the prediction, that's the predicament I'm in

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Speaker 4: because part of me, I'm like, my husband's not going

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Speaker 4: morning on a Thursday, so like, why would I go up? Well,

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Speaker 4: I don't care if I'm going to meet someone there

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Speaker 4: that's not my future husband. But then my sister does

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Speaker 4: argue with me. She's like, you got to put yourself

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm open to it. I just really haven't

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Speaker 3: Who they ended up being.

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Speaker 4: That was a little bit of a setback for me

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Speaker 4: in terms of dating. So I don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: Timing or I don't know, but no, I'm what about Hinge.

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Speaker 3: I am blocked off Hinge. I got banned off Hinge.

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Speaker 3: Can't tell you why. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think just because I didn't go out on dates

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Speaker 4: with some of the people I matched with, somebody must

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Speaker 4: have reported me. And I emailed Hine and I was like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to beg to be back on Hinge.

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Speaker 4: If I got banned from Hinge, I think that's a

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Speaker 4: sign that, like God's saying, your husband's also not on there.

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Speaker 3: So I'm on Riah.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean I go out occasionally, but it's tough.

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Speaker 4: All the good ones are like either married at this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean it is the dating

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Speaker 1: dating world is the wild wild West. But but if

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Speaker 1: you don't put yourself out there, then it's gonna be hard.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard.

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Speaker 4: I know I do put myself out there. I'm one

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Speaker 4: who like sides in the DMS. I will like ask

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Speaker 3: And honestly, I've seen some.

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Speaker 4: Of the guys who I think might be on Taylor

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Speaker 4: Frankie Paul's season, and if I'm right about any of

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Speaker 2: It looks like it's a very good cast.

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Speaker 4: It does, and like the older they are okay with

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Speaker 4: having kids, obviously, and I feel like she's going for

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Speaker 4: those before, so maybe that's maybe that's in my future.

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Speaker 2: Would you stante with Sean.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's honestly pretty pretty common from the show,

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Speaker 4: So I think Sean kind of fell into that category.

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Speaker 4: I think anything that would have a real shot at

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Speaker 2: It would be fun to see you down there first.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I was so excited for Paradise because I

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately, like just the timing of it, I don't

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Speaker 3: So I don't think I got the dating.

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Speaker 2: On a competition show.

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Speaker 1: You definitely didn't do our Paradise that we did, Like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I think, you know, I think that

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Speaker 4: That was a lot of fun, and I think I've

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Nice.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, speaking of reality shows moving away from dating,

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: That way more exciting than dating shows because one HGTV, Like,

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Speaker 3: And I think that's all I can say for now.

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Speaker 4: Crazy to come in and put that inside a home

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Speaker 3: No way. I'm all for like every single color, time

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Speaker 2: Okay, how do you feel like your experience withinter your

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was ready for this competition for sure.

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Speaker 1: If anything, I wish you're one of the few people

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Speaker 2: What do you mean like having done the.

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Speaker 1: Paradise, I mean having done and you really did Paradise

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Speaker 2: A lot of people on the show have only ever

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I felt, like I said, like so much

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Speaker 4: And you know, I didn't know what the outcome of

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Speaker 3: You hope that it's an end goal that you get to.

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Speaker 4: But with this, I was like I came in, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I feel so confident. I know I'm good at this.

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Speaker 4: I was also just excited to like share my ideas

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Speaker 3: That's huge. You know, It's like I'm pretty sure it's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, I mean it definitely prepared me. It prepared me,

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Speaker 3: love her.

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Speaker 2: She does have great style Like she does she always

447
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Speaker 2: puts the other like really great outfits. I feel like

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Speaker 2: any clips they showed of her, like in her home

449
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Speaker 2: on her season, it always looked like really well designed exactly.

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Speaker 4: She was just such a joy to be around and

451
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 4: like really made my HGTV Bachelor renovation experience so much better.

452
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Speaker 4: Like I couldn't imagine doing it without her.

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Speaker 1: As someone who has their masters in interior design and

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Speaker 1: you do it professionally, are you are there? Are there ever?

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Speaker 1: Like hare like? For like I believe that I am

456
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Speaker 1: like I could be a good I could.

457
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Speaker 2: Has a secret passion for interior design.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, Yes I have, Yes I have.

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Speaker 1: That's elect I designed my I designed my old condo

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Speaker 1: that I no longer had have, but I designed it myself.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, that photo has been passed around

463
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 2: to like your cousin, million other people, that postive photo.

464
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: Everyone wants their hands on it.

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Speaker 1: I know, oh true, true. But like so someone like

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Speaker 1: me who has like little to no experience, right, are

467
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Speaker 1: you ever like impressed or surprised or by like seeing

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Speaker 1: someone that doesn't know what they're doing design an apartment

469
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Speaker 1: or a home or are you always like, Okay, this

470
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Speaker 1: is is amateur This is amateur work most.

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Speaker 3: Of the time.

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Speaker 4: I would say it does fall into like the amateur category,

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Speaker 4: just because there is there's a science behind design, and

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Speaker 4: like there's principles that make a design a good design, balance, harmony, rhythm, repetition,

475
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Speaker 4: So there are certain elements that you can categorize and

476
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Speaker 4: objectively look at and say is this you know, does

477
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Speaker 4: this fall into like a good design? But I will say, also,

478
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Speaker 4: you know, some people are naturally born with an eye,

479
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Speaker 4: and I think you're probably falling into that category show

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Speaker 4: where like you've got an eye for design, that doesn't

481
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Speaker 4: mean that.

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Speaker 1: You can see aren't any well, I didn't do this,

483
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Speaker 1: I didn't do this, I didn't do this.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I love that you're like very offended by

485
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Speaker 4: like you can't your name's not on the design right now,

486
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 4: like he's not attaching his name to this backdrop. But no,

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Speaker 4: I would say, there are people that do surprise me

488
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Speaker 4: every now and then, And I think you get really fresh,

489
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Speaker 4: cool ideas when you are coming from a place of

490
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Speaker 4: perhaps less analytical background and more of just a creative

491
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Speaker 4: mind that comes up with cool concepts. So it's a

492
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Speaker 4: little bit of both, but it's also very it's very

493
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Speaker 4: difficult to I think what's very difficult it was difficult

494
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Speaker 4: with the show is when you're working with other people

495
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Speaker 4: who don't have.

496
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Speaker 3: That background and experience.

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Speaker 4: It's you don't want to I never want people to

498
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Speaker 4: feel like their ideas aren't heard because creative I think ideas,

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Speaker 4: everybody's ideas are equally is important. The execution of it

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Speaker 4: is where I think an interior designer with a professional

501
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 4: background and education in it will perhaps excel on Like

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Speaker 4: the execution, you know, right between like the idea and execution.

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Speaker 3: Oh for sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean if we're on the show, if we're on

505
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Speaker 2: the show together, you and I, like I might be like, oh,

506
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Speaker 2: I think this looks really pretty, But also, what do

507
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Speaker 2: you think? I'm not an interior designer, Like why would

508
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Speaker 2: we go with my opinion over yours a.

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Speaker 3: Situation like that?

510
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know that's also like that's part of

511
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 4: the show and heads definitely, But and that was I

512
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 4: thought the most challenging part because obviously coming from a

513
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Speaker 4: background or I'm like, listen, I get paid to do this.

514
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Speaker 4: This is like, when the show's done, I'm going back

515
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Speaker 4: to doing this no offense for other people. But like

516
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Speaker 4: I it was important that my voice was heard. And

517
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Speaker 4: that's a really tricky line to like kind of walk,

518
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 4: because people do get their feelings hurt and they do

519
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 4: take it personally.

520
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Speaker 3: That well, why don't you like that color chair that

521
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Speaker 3: I picked out?

522
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Speaker 4: And it's not a personal, you know, opinion, it's just

523
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Speaker 4: this is professionally something my name's now going to be

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Speaker 4: attached to.

525
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: And the same way Joe doesn't want, you.

526
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Speaker 4: Know, to take responsibility for the nome and the leopard

527
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Speaker 4: sheet in the background. It's like I don't want I

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Speaker 4: don't want my name to be especially as a professional

529
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Speaker 4: interior designer. I don't want it to be attached to

530
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Speaker 4: things that are really really poorly.

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Speaker 2: Executed, yeah, or just even not your work.

532
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Speaker 3: Or not my work exactly.

533
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Speaker 4: So it's hard when there's a lot of different cooks

534
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Speaker 4: in the kitchen you got, you got some crazy outcomes.

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Speaker 1: Would you ever work like that in the outside world?

536
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Speaker 1: Like do you have your own company or are you

537
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Speaker 1: do you work for a company? Like how does that?

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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 4: I have my own company, but you seldom work on

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Speaker 4: your own in any interior design project or architecture project,

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Speaker 4: from the contractors to subcontractors, multiple designers, you have specialists

542
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Speaker 4: depending on you know, the stones you're using, kitchen in

543
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Speaker 4: bath tile. So I'm used to working with a lot

544
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Speaker 4: of different people. I think the biggest thing is a

545
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Speaker 4: lot of them who come from that industry, they don't

546
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Speaker 4: take it personally. Like we understand if somebody told me,

547
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Speaker 4: like I picked a floor and they're like, absolutely not,

548
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't let like that.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't think about that ever again, because it's just

551
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Speaker 4: you just can't be like that in this industry, and

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Speaker 4: I think for a lot of people who haven't had

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Speaker 4: that that experiences that I have, like it was a

554
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Speaker 4: little bit of a shock to them to hear like no,

555
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Speaker 4: or we shouldn't be doing this, or you know, their

556
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Speaker 4: ideas not necessarily like celebrated.

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Speaker 3: So I'm used to working with a lot of different personalities.

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Speaker 4: The difference is I'm not used to it really a

559
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Speaker 4: lot of reality TV personalities.

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Speaker 1: I mean that checks out and it it kind of

561
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Speaker 1: goes in line with just like every other reality competition show,

562
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Speaker 1: like you always have, you have certain people or players

563
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Speaker 1: on there that play the game, you know it as

564
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: it's a game. There's other people that go in there

565
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: and they take everything you say personally, and that's essentially

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Speaker 1: what makes a good reality TV show exactly.

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Speaker 4: And we have I will say, like the cast for

568
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: this HGTV show coming up is really such an array

569
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 4: of Bachelor Nation alums from decades and like old, young, new,

570
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 4: you know, professionals, novice. There's a really it's a good

571
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: hodgepodge of people, and I think that also makes for

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Speaker 4: really interesting design and even better TV.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're looking forward to it, so, yeah, we're excited

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Speaker 1: to watch and yeah, I think I think that's it. Alicia,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time. It was

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Speaker 1: a pleasure talking to you.

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Speaker 3: Of course. Thank you guys so much for having me back.

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Speaker 1: Of course, And to all our listeners, thank you guys

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Speaker 1: for tuning in the better Happy Hour. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: download and subscribe to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: We'll have new incents, new every school.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. Bye mm hmm