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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys apt now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and it is a Tuesday of Vikings Week.
Speaker 1: It is officially underway since both opponents for this week's game,
Speaker 1: both the Cowboys and the Vikings, have all of their
Speaker 1: games played leading up to this game after Monday Night
Speaker 1: Football last night, and Cowboys we now know facing a
Speaker 1: red hot Minnesota Viking team that has won three straight games,
Speaker 1: including nineteen to thirteen over the Chicago Bears last night.
Speaker 1: Bill Jones with Everson Walls and Mickey Spagnola inside the
Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage studios at Forge Center at the Star in Fresco. Mickey,
Speaker 1: before you say anything, Everson, what are you wearing a
Speaker 1: g that can't be a Green Bay Packers sweatshirt? It
Speaker 1: is not Green Bay, It is not who did I say?
Speaker 1: It is not even Garland High School, which you know.
Speaker 1: I've sat here Spagnola for god weeks and I hear
Speaker 1: Bill Jones tell all these high school stories about at
Speaker 1: least underachieving quarterbacks. Give me a story about a Garland
Speaker 1: High school quarterback, William Jones. Come on, man, I don't
Speaker 1: know that I can give you a Garland unless Bobby
Speaker 1: Boyd play. First of all, Bobby boy Bobby Boyd and
Speaker 1: my uncle, his name was Joe Boyd Walls. They're both
Speaker 1: in the Garland Hall of Fame right now. And if
Speaker 1: you let the story go as legends told, my uncle
Speaker 1: beat Bobby Boyd so bad in the hundred yard dash
Speaker 1: that he turned around and started running back. Was at
Speaker 1: the end when he crossed the finish line. Now, as
Speaker 1: I continue with this, I'm I gave you all kinds
Speaker 1: of hints. Nineteen seventy seven, who was the quarterback for
Speaker 1: Garland High School? Well, I know who the star basketball
Speaker 1: player was for Garland High School in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1: That would be one Ricky Pierce, who went on, there
Speaker 1: you go, good job, you digress. You're digressing. Don't get
Speaker 1: you're digressing Garland. Where did hercan can't believe it. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting right here and you don't know where did Hercules?
Speaker 1: Hercules Walls, my second cousin, one of the best high
Speaker 1: school quarterbacks that Garland has ever had. He had a
Speaker 1: fullback by the name of Philip Walls, who was his brother,
Speaker 1: and they went through. I believe they made it through
Speaker 1: to the regionals with a veer quarterback no more than
Speaker 1: five feet seven inches tall. He was one of the
Speaker 1: fastest guys to come out of Garland in history. He
Speaker 1: was almost he was this close to making the Look
Speaker 1: at that, my man Chris got it all, baby, He
Speaker 1: was this close. He was this close to making it
Speaker 1: to the Olympic, to the Olympics in the two hundred
Speaker 1: meter dash. He was passed up after finish line. Was
Speaker 1: less than ten years ago. Call Lewis, Leo Barell and
Speaker 1: some other blur passed him up right before he finished
Speaker 1: the finish line. I'm so proud of my cousin Herkey Walls,
Speaker 1: who by the way right now is a pastor in Orlando, Florida,
Speaker 1: doing very well. Check him out on Facebook, kay once
Speaker 1: in a while. So all right, y'all have to check
Speaker 1: you out Turkey Waters. The next time you come up
Speaker 1: with some white dude that played quarterback in Texas and
Speaker 1: you you know somebody, boy, Bobby Boyd is one of
Speaker 1: the greatest ever come out of Garland played at University
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma and in the NFL. Of course, that's what
Speaker 1: they say in the suburbs. But in the hood, in
Speaker 1: the hood, everybody knows Joe boy Walls and he was
Speaker 1: way better than Bobby Boyd. No, I won't say way bad. Now,
Speaker 1: both of them work ever since. I think we can
Speaker 1: make it through an entire mix shots without Mickey saying
Speaker 1: a word. I'm going there. I'm going there. Shut up, Mickey,
Speaker 1: I'm going there. We're gonna get there. Okay, So what's
Speaker 1: the G four? Then, if it's not for gy on
Speaker 1: the docky Walls, we got, we got, We got ten
Speaker 1: minutes to go in this segment, I think I can
Speaker 1: fill a buster and keeps bags out of the entire
Speaker 1: I've had about enough of this, okay, So then who's
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback in Grambling school history? Oh? Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, Doug Williams. Baby, I was there, Doug Williams.
Speaker 1: I was there. I got toasted many times in practice.
Speaker 1: So that's a testament to his great right. There you go.
Speaker 1: So we've established it is Grambling. It's not. It is Grambling,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, sir. It couldn't. That's Grambling State
Speaker 1: now not Grambling College. For all those old heads that
Speaker 1: keep thinking Eddie Robinson still alive, He's he's gone, gone
Speaker 1: the glory. But a great man, Eddie Robins. Yes, sir, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: he was. I could tell I could tell you a
Speaker 1: training camp story about Eddie Robinson, but I guess we
Speaker 1: had eventually need Mickey to speak. Hello, Mickey, No, we
Speaker 1: don't know, we don't. No, we don't be like a
Speaker 1: commercial and see how fire we can go without mentioning
Speaker 1: the show. Okay, I'm out of breath now, Okay, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to know, did Bobby boy dunk on you?
Speaker 1: Is that why you remember him? Bobby? Bobby Boyd goes
Speaker 1: back to the fifties, right, Okay? Heck of an athlete,
Speaker 1: heck of an athlete for real? Yeah, that's right, all right, Mickey, Ricky,
Speaker 1: you tell us boy, that was a humdigger of a
Speaker 1: football game last night, wasn't it. I wasn't sure either
Speaker 1: Vikings did what they had to do. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: think either team wanted to win the game. Goodness great,
Speaker 1: So what do you think of the Cowboys? What do
Speaker 1: you think of the Cowboys? Chances? Then, against this Minnesota
Speaker 1: Viking team that's won three straight games. Now, well they've
Speaker 1: they've won three straight. They've beaten Green Bay, Detroit and
Speaker 1: Chicago without a legitimate running back on the field, by
Speaker 1: the way, and boy Nick Foles, what's happened to him?
Speaker 1: Or is the Bears offensive line man bad? That was terrible?
Speaker 1: They're that bad? They are that bad? Wow, you think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have problems. I think most teams have proxy
Speaker 1: different offensive lines, and yet they're still in the hunt.
Speaker 1: And then, lets you know, you got to win any
Speaker 1: way you can spags, No, I don't care what. That's
Speaker 1: why all three fascets are important. You can go into
Speaker 1: a game thinking you got the best running game in
Speaker 1: Vikings history, but sometimes it just doesn't work out and
Speaker 1: you have to find another way to win. That's where
Speaker 1: coaches come in. That's where teammates come in. What's that's
Speaker 1: where the other fastest of the game come in. Been
Speaker 1: saying it all year long, we need all three. You
Speaker 1: can't just depend on one fast of the game. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe the Cowboys can kind of take the blueprint of
Speaker 1: what the Bears did to stop Delvin Cook held him
Speaker 1: to ninety six yards, and that's quite an accomplishment that
Speaker 1: when you look at what they're doing, and even with
Speaker 1: those ninety six yards and having not played as many
Speaker 1: games as Derrick Henry, he still leads the league with
Speaker 1: nine hundred and fifty four yards rushing in the nine
Speaker 1: games or the eight games that he's played. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the key on that it was ninety six yards on
Speaker 1: thirty carry right exactly and three they did, which is
Speaker 1: they've been a half yards to carry less than what
Speaker 1: he's average. They made sure their defensive front didn't let
Speaker 1: him get to the next level. They were stuffing him
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. Next time somebody asked me
Speaker 1: who the Cowboys had trade for. I think that Hicks
Speaker 1: guy's pretty darn good. Huh. Ninety six playing in the
Speaker 1: middle of that defense. My gosh, And they're missing in
Speaker 1: Chicago's missing one of their top guys up front who
Speaker 1: opted out Goldman. It was a first round pick a
Speaker 1: few years ago, and so yeah, they were doing a note,
Speaker 1: they were doing a number up front and lile their
Speaker 1: linebackers to engage. So maybe the Cowboys and we're gonna
Speaker 1: find out, right, if the Cowboys improved play against the
Speaker 1: run these last couple games can carry over into now
Speaker 1: having to face the team that's averaging one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty three point six yards a game rushing when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys give up one hundred. I believe the Cowboys had
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty seven a game. They've been given
Speaker 1: up rushing, but it's improved these last two games. So
Speaker 1: the key to slowing down the Vikings obviously you better
Speaker 1: stop Delvin Cook. And oh, by the way, don't go
Speaker 1: to sleep on Jefferson, the wide receiver from LSU. My goodness, gracious,
Speaker 1: he put on a performance. He ended up with eight
Speaker 1: catches for one hundred and thirty five yards. Pretty good, dude, there,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, Spags, I haven't really started my
Speaker 1: research on the Vikings. Is it their offensive line that
Speaker 1: is so good? Is that what allows Delvi and Cook
Speaker 1: to be so successful, because as you say, every time
Speaker 1: I see him, he doesn't get touched until he's on
Speaker 1: the second level. Now, that's when Cook shows what he
Speaker 1: can do, because once he gets in the second level,
Speaker 1: then he's already slicing and dicing and the secondary can't
Speaker 1: handle him. But because the steam is already built up,
Speaker 1: who is the cabalist on that line. Is it the coach?
Speaker 1: Is it the offensive line? Coach? Is that the system
Speaker 1: what allows them to be so consistent and persistent because
Speaker 1: Jefferson had his plays, But you're talking about rather somebody
Speaker 1: thirty times. Like Bill said, that means that you are
Speaker 1: committed to what you do well, because we know Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins is not who you're going to hang your hat on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think the I think their offensive line is
Speaker 1: pretty good. But I think I noticed about the Bears
Speaker 1: is everybody stayed in their gap. Nobody start chasing the football.
Speaker 1: Everybody was manning their gap and moving with the flow
Speaker 1: and not coming out to allow any cutbacks. The other
Speaker 1: thing with him, you got to be careful of h
Speaker 1: and it's one of the things Mike McCarthy talked about
Speaker 1: yesterday was you know there their outside run game when
Speaker 1: they throw that pitch to him and let him get
Speaker 1: in space, because if you leave space for him, you're
Speaker 1: going to be in trouble. And the other thing you
Speaker 1: better watch out for is when they throw the screen
Speaker 1: pass or not even a screen pass, a little dump
Speaker 1: off to him. You get that guy in space and man,
Speaker 1: he's scouting. So I think Mike McCarthy said yesterday that
Speaker 1: he would liked all his guys to watch the game
Speaker 1: that was their homework assignment, and if they watched that,
Speaker 1: they better buckled their chin straps down, because even though
Speaker 1: he only gained ninety six yards, it's the only third
Speaker 1: time this season he's been he's run for less than
Speaker 1: a hundred yards, so he's been pretty consistent. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you another something about their offensive line. And you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, of course, Tony Sperrano was
Speaker 1: their offensive line coach, and rest his soul, he passed
Speaker 1: away right before the season began a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and I think they were hurting a little bit after,
Speaker 1: not only obviously emotionally going into that season, but I
Speaker 1: also think that they missed him a lot as far
Speaker 1: as him his coaching ability on that offense line. And
Speaker 1: now I think what they've done on their offensive line
Speaker 1: is evidence. This past week, I mean, they released Pat
Speaker 1: elf Line, who came into his career in twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: with Sperano as his offensive line coach, and he was
Speaker 1: really really strong to begin with. They he came off
Speaker 1: injured reserve and they just flat waived him this week
Speaker 1: and there are ten teams that put in claims on him,
Speaker 1: but that says a lot about what they have on
Speaker 1: their offensive line. And I don't know what was going on.
Speaker 1: There may have been something going on behind the scenes
Speaker 1: with elf line. I'm not sure from an attitude standpoint,
Speaker 1: because there wasn't a spot for him to play on
Speaker 1: that offensive line because guys were playing so well. But
Speaker 1: they've invested in their offensive line. They've got a first
Speaker 1: round draft pick at center and Greg Garrett Bradberry. They
Speaker 1: signed Riley Reef and who was a former first round
Speaker 1: pick of the Lions in free agency in the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. They got Brian O'Neill at right tackle,
Speaker 1: who's a round pick. And they've got another second round pick,
Speaker 1: Ezra Able in a rookie this year plan at a
Speaker 1: guard position. And so yeah, and I think if you
Speaker 1: look across the league, you saw it with the Steelers
Speaker 1: a week ago. The Steelers don't have any injuries on
Speaker 1: their offensive line, and I mean on their team. They
Speaker 1: don't have any injuries outside of their inside linebacker on defense.
Speaker 1: And the healthy teams, the healthy offensive lines are the
Speaker 1: ones that are getting it done. And that's what's happening
Speaker 1: with the Vikings here the last few weeks. They've kind
Speaker 1: of figured things out in the run game, and as
Speaker 1: you heard Mike McCarthy yesterday on his press conference, he
Speaker 1: talks about that outside zone blocking scheme that the Vikings
Speaker 1: have and it's very similar to what Cleveland does. So
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defensively will have their work cut out for
Speaker 1: him against the Vikings this week. So you mean they
Speaker 1: don't have any undrafted rookie starting at right tackle and
Speaker 1: a second year undrafted tackle having been starting at left tackle.
Speaker 1: Goodness great, that's exactly right. Not to mention the center
Speaker 1: that p this hamstring in warm ups, you know what,
Speaker 1: And that might have I'm pretty sure they didn't have.
Speaker 1: That might have been the third biggest loss they had
Speaker 1: other than the two starting tackles. Not having him back
Speaker 1: in there, I think hurt against Pittsburgh. Beannist was playing
Speaker 1: pretty darn well and they can't get him back soon enough.
Speaker 1: By the way, So how's how's Zeke doing? Because I'm
Speaker 1: still looking forward to that thunder enlightening combo for the game.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed how we played, I mean, even with the
Speaker 1: center out, even with our backups and and free agents
Speaker 1: and undrafted and all of this. I thought we really
Speaker 1: exposed Pittsburgh in regards to how they played the run.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about the best team in the
Speaker 1: league right now, and we're gashing them, you know, not
Speaker 1: just with the starter, but with the backup. We talk
Speaker 1: about everybody wants Paula to give more time, but I
Speaker 1: looked at these numbers. They want that bad. I think
Speaker 1: it's the average was pretty good, especially considering that he
Speaker 1: came into the game a little bit limping a little
Speaker 1: bit and Pilot was able to take over. I think
Speaker 1: we're I think as far as the rushing game is concerned,
Speaker 1: I think that might be the strength of this team,
Speaker 1: our rushing, our running game as opposed to rushed defense.
Speaker 1: Well the other part of that, ever, son, is the
Speaker 1: play callers got to use that run game. I mean,
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that Garrett Gilbert, I think one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that he had success a week ago
Speaker 1: running that offense was there was more balance between the
Speaker 1: run game in the past game by necessity because you've
Speaker 1: got a quarterback who doesn't have much experience. But if
Speaker 1: Dalton's the guy going forward, I think that they need
Speaker 1: to have that same kind of approach with Dalton as
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I mean, I don't think you can expect
Speaker 1: Dalton without the practice time with this offense that Dak
Speaker 1: has had, not only this year in the offseason on
Speaker 1: his own, but also in past years with Maury Cooper
Speaker 1: the last couple of years in Michael Bluff as well.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can expect Dalton to run the
Speaker 1: same offense that Dak was running, obviously, and so I
Speaker 1: think you need to take advantage of the fact that
Speaker 1: that you've got a couple of good running backs. Uh.
Speaker 1: And and also I think you see also with offensive lines,
Speaker 1: even with veteran offensive lines, a lot of times it
Speaker 1: takes a month into the season before they start clicking. Well, now,
Speaker 1: whoever you have upfront, at least you've had him for
Speaker 1: a little bit now, where especially in the run game,
Speaker 1: things can can work out a little bit more. But
Speaker 1: Mickey has a great point about beyondsh I mean, we love,
Speaker 1: we all love Joe Looney, but beat has really showed
Speaker 1: what he can do in the in the month or
Speaker 1: so that he was starting, and I think he's got
Speaker 1: a very bright future. But in Looney in his career,
Speaker 1: outside of the one year where he filled in for
Speaker 1: Frederick and in the first month. But he plays a
Speaker 1: tremendous role on this team. It's a spot starter and
Speaker 1: a great team guy. Uh, and a great guy to
Speaker 1: have on your team. But uh, you want to go
Speaker 1: with and especially the last half of this year, you
Speaker 1: want Beotist to get as many reps as he can. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it also helps the running game when you get
Speaker 1: off to a nineteen to nine lead, right, and you
Speaker 1: don't have to throw the ball like thirteen to nothing
Speaker 1: to start the game. That's right. You don't have to
Speaker 1: throw the ball fifty four times that Dalton through against Arizona. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that wasn't in the game plan. Uh. And and
Speaker 1: I know we got to hear what we got to
Speaker 1: hit the break here. But this one last thing, and
Speaker 1: I got to ask this question, and I was wondering,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's always a stat thing. Some stat
Speaker 1: person comes up with this stuff that that Zeke's not
Speaker 1: really good, uh for yards after his first hit, And
Speaker 1: I'm going, what are you talking about? Most of his
Speaker 1: yards have come after first contact because he's plowing right.
Speaker 1: Even in the Pittsburgh game, there was a lot of
Speaker 1: runs that should have been zero in one yard it
Speaker 1: turned into three five yards, right kind of his game.
Speaker 1: And I can't believe somebody came up with a stat
Speaker 1: that he wasn't very good after first contact, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I want to see this first contact is usually it
Speaker 1: is usually in the backfield. This first contact is usually
Speaker 1: in the offensive backfield, which right after he gets the ball, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, is why I believe why McCarthy didn't
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth and inches against the Steelers.
Speaker 1: If you looked at his three previous carries prior to
Speaker 1: that eight yard run that got him in position to
Speaker 1: have the fourth and inches, he got a grand total
Speaker 1: I think of one yard on three carries. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he was stymied in the backfield on those and did
Speaker 1: all he could to get back to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: All right, we're just getting started, Mickey. You got a
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Speaker 1: all right. Jerry Jones was on the fan oddly enough
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday morning about Oh yeah, he's on the
Speaker 1: fan every Tuesday morning. So Bill, we got kind of
Speaker 1: confirmation or what Mike McCarthy pointed out at his conference
Speaker 1: call yesterday that Andy Dalton was indeed cleared to practice,
Speaker 1: so he was. He was good to go and looks
Speaker 1: good probably going forward. Mike liked the way he practiced. Uh.
Speaker 1: Chitterbee Woozier was also in practice, and Mike's when asked
Speaker 1: if do you think he'll be able to start, and
Speaker 1: he said, well, I hope so. Uh so, Uh, that
Speaker 1: was good news. Tyrone Crawford did not practice. He was
Speaker 1: still in the COVID nineteen protocol. Uh, so we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens with him. My understanding is it was a
Speaker 1: contact deal, so it isn't like he tested positive. So
Speaker 1: maybe in another day or two when they get back
Speaker 1: to practice on Wednesday. Uh, he would be able to go.
Speaker 1: So that's uh, so he would probably he would be
Speaker 1: need three negatives before spread out over five day period
Speaker 1: or so five or six probably the way way it works.
Speaker 1: So and I think that came down on Wednesday, Wednesday
Speaker 1: or last week. I think, yes, Thursday, and so we
Speaker 1: said Thursday, right, so Thursday Fridays. You know, they've been
Speaker 1: testing all along. And as Mike pointed out, because they
Speaker 1: did not practice, uh in the scheduled practice on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: they just moved that to yesterday. So they did yesterday
Speaker 1: what they would have done that one practice during the
Speaker 1: bye week. So uh, that was uh somewhat good news.
Speaker 1: And I thought, you know, since we were talking about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and you know where they're at two and
Speaker 1: seven going into these last games. Um, he had a
Speaker 1: he had an interesting comment when he was asked, why
Speaker 1: do you think you know you are where you're at?
Speaker 1: Why do you think the Cowboys are are two and seven?
Speaker 1: I think Chris has a SoundBite from him I thought
Speaker 1: was pretty good from Jerry Jones. So when I looked
Speaker 1: back and why we won two football games and a
Speaker 1: close owner of certainly one of them, I think we've
Speaker 1: got it down. I don't think we were short on
Speaker 1: how we approached and how we got on the field
Speaker 1: defensively and offensively. We uh not because of what we
Speaker 1: were trying to do so much offensively, We just those
Speaker 1: early mistakes, those turnovers, was fumbled, those things like that
Speaker 1: that even when we had back, even when we were
Speaker 1: really we were absent at all times for the most part,
Speaker 1: having our tackles, but still we were moving the ball
Speaker 1: and looked pretty good to move the ball, but we
Speaker 1: turned that ball over. And you know, the other thing
Speaker 1: that he went on to point out, he talked about
Speaker 1: one of the things they tried to do in the
Speaker 1: offseason was shore up that defensive front, shore it up
Speaker 1: with guys in the middle, and he kind of pointed
Speaker 1: out that it was unfortunate that they had made these
Speaker 1: plans on how they were going to run their defense,
Speaker 1: changing it up, and then the players that they were
Speaker 1: going to change up with either got hurt or didn't
Speaker 1: perform to the level they thought. And it was it
Speaker 1: was it was like it was like a combustible thing
Speaker 1: that these guys didn't point it didn't pan out. And
Speaker 1: you know he's talking, uh, you know, don Terry Poe,
Speaker 1: He's probably talking Everson Griffin and then Gerald McCoy gets hurt,
Speaker 1: so they never got a chance to see that. And
Speaker 1: now you're in this transition from how you were playing
Speaker 1: defensive technique to what you want them to do now,
Speaker 1: and and it just didn't work. And it was good
Speaker 1: to hear him kind of point that out that you know,
Speaker 1: of all years to try to change up what you
Speaker 1: were doing defensively, this wasn't the year because he compared
Speaker 1: it to the offense, right, They kind of kept the
Speaker 1: offense the same with dak In there, Kellen Moore, Colin plays.
Speaker 1: They didn't make radical changes, but defensively they were and
Speaker 1: they just didn't adapt very very well. Now we'll we'll
Speaker 1: see if these last two games that they played are
Speaker 1: any indication of improvement they've made. But and this will
Speaker 1: be a pretty good test with the running game that
Speaker 1: Minnesota has, and they can throw the ball a little
Speaker 1: bit with Kirk Cousins. You know, that was only the
Speaker 1: second time all year that the Vikings scored less than
Speaker 1: twenty three points in a game. They were averaging twenty
Speaker 1: six points a game at this point, so they've been
Speaker 1: putting points up. That nineteen to thirteen game wasn't indicative
Speaker 1: of what they've been doing offensively. That's very true. That's
Speaker 1: very true, spacts, because as you look at the game
Speaker 1: last night, you know you can only run the ball
Speaker 1: thirty times and not gain a hundred yards from your
Speaker 1: start running back and still win unless your defense came
Speaker 1: to play, and they came to play, because let's just
Speaker 1: be real, it's all about causing effect. Chicago's offense just
Speaker 1: isn't that good. They haven't been that good all year long.
Speaker 1: So it's a perfect storm for them. And to the
Speaker 1: fact that they were able to win their third game
Speaker 1: because they took advantage of the circumstances around them. And
Speaker 1: that's what the Cowboys have to do. You have to
Speaker 1: realize where your opportunities are going to come from. You
Speaker 1: have to realize what's coming your way. We know that
Speaker 1: this running game, they might run it even more than
Speaker 1: thirty times this time around because they're gonna be stubborn
Speaker 1: in their game plan because they know it's successful. So
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be stubborn in your game plan, you
Speaker 1: gotta stay the course and you can't make mistakes to
Speaker 1: put that game plan in jeopardy. Minnestolia was able to
Speaker 1: do that last night because they didn't put their game
Speaker 1: plan in jeopardy. Their defense allowed them to stay the
Speaker 1: course with that running game. They're not going to try
Speaker 1: and win a game with Kirk Cousins unless the Cowboys
Speaker 1: secondary comes in here and just falls flat on their
Speaker 1: faces and allows them to otherwise. I want to see
Speaker 1: that continued trend in regards to how well our defense
Speaker 1: is playing. You know, the other thing that they do
Speaker 1: on offense, and it just jumps off the charts at
Speaker 1: you when you look at their stats, is their yards
Speaker 1: per attempt. In the passing game. Kirk Cousins is averaging
Speaker 1: eight point eight yards per attempt and that's number one
Speaker 1: in the league. As a team, they're number one in
Speaker 1: the league and yards per attempt. And then you look
Speaker 1: at the guy that you mentioned Mickey earlier, the rookie
Speaker 1: out of LSU, Justin Jefferson, is averaging eighteen yards or reception.
Speaker 1: And so they've got they run, run, run, and then
Speaker 1: they've got the big playability and uh so, uh so
Speaker 1: the secondary is going to be tested. Yeah, And the
Speaker 1: key thing last night for the Bears was they stopped
Speaker 1: the run without having to by still playing their two
Speaker 1: safeties deep. They didn't bring up another safety to help
Speaker 1: out against the run. So that's something. Yeah, we'll see
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys are capable of doing that. Because if
Speaker 1: you noticed, Minnesota uses a fullback, right, So do you
Speaker 1: do you go, jam, you go and play some base defense?
Speaker 1: Is you know, Sean Lee ready to be the third
Speaker 1: linebacker and you play a four to three, a true
Speaker 1: four three instead of trying to stop everybody that either
Speaker 1: playing two tight ends or they play a fullback, and
Speaker 1: you're still in your nickel defense with some skinny dB
Speaker 1: up there close to the line of scrimmage. Nothing against
Speaker 1: skinny dB, that's okay, man, I love skinny dbs. Man
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't love him. I don't love him
Speaker 1: for taking on fullbacks. But yeah, I mean, well, so
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a lot like the Cleveland game
Speaker 1: in regards to the chess match that's gonna be played exactly,
Speaker 1: you know, because as far as personnel is concerned, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to be able to stop them with three
Speaker 1: linebackers in the game. Can we do that? Have we
Speaker 1: shown to be able to do that? Uh? That's where
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins has the advantage. He takes advantage of personnel.
Speaker 1: We're gonna force you to play the run. And then,
Speaker 1: as Bill said, we're coming with the play action and
Speaker 1: we're gonna go deep for it because you don't have
Speaker 1: your nickel out there. But we've got these nifty wide
Speaker 1: receivers out there. And boy, don't let me get on this. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think his name, first name is Kyle. Is it
Speaker 1: Kyle Rudolph? Yes? Is he playing? Is he gonna play
Speaker 1: this week? He played last night one of them. Yeah, Well, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping something happened because this guy, he is one
Speaker 1: of the more athletic tight ends I've ever seen. He
Speaker 1: makes a habit of making one handed touchdowns and not
Speaker 1: to mention the fact that he can block as well.
Speaker 1: So as we started talking about Jefferson the one that's
Speaker 1: gonna keep those chains moving, it's gonna be Kyle Rudolph
Speaker 1: in the in the passing game, in the passing and
Speaker 1: Rudolph And I'm looking at snap counts Rudolf and four
Speaker 1: catches last night for sixty three yards. So, uh, they
Speaker 1: certainly rely on him. And that's another part of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense that's had problem is covering tight ends. By
Speaker 1: the way, guys that pass catchers, they can get down
Speaker 1: the field. And he didn't do anything fancy. A lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff I saw him doing, I thought it
Speaker 1: was it was it was the you know Jason Witten
Speaker 1: look alike, right, go down five ten yards, turn around
Speaker 1: in open space and catch the ball and the chains move,
Speaker 1: so they gotta be careful. You gotta watch him. You
Speaker 1: have to watch him in the red zone. That's why
Speaker 1: he's dangerous. So we get down last year, Yes, we
Speaker 1: saw it last year and like I said, more than
Speaker 1: once this guy caught the one hand to touchdown. He
Speaker 1: seems to make a habit of it. So obviously very
Speaker 1: skilled player. And let's just be reals facts. When it
Speaker 1: comes to good tight ends. I haven't seen one good
Speaker 1: tight end be stopped in any NFL game this year,
Speaker 1: not the good tight ends, and that's something that we
Speaker 1: have to be aware of. Good tight ends are a
Speaker 1: premium when you have a good running game and you
Speaker 1: look at I'm looking at their snap counts from last night,
Speaker 1: and Maky you mentioned the fullback CJ. Hamm had thirty
Speaker 1: five snaps in last night's game against Chicago, and the
Speaker 1: two tight ends then seventy three snaps overall, so he
Speaker 1: was in on half the snaps on offense, which is
Speaker 1: very rare in the NFL. I mean, even teams that
Speaker 1: employee fullbacks usually really they're only getting eight to ten
Speaker 1: snaps a game. The fullback is yeah, you're usually special
Speaker 1: teams guys converted defensive ends or linebackers who they've turned
Speaker 1: into fullbacks, or a three hundred pound fullback who converted
Speaker 1: defensive tackle that's playing fullbacks. This guy is more than that.
Speaker 1: And U and so the seventy three snaps the two
Speaker 1: tight ends. Rudolph had fifty seven and Herb Smith or
Speaker 1: rather Tyler Conklin had forty six snaps last time. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so old school zoo, old school coming to town, the
Speaker 1: old schools. You gotta be ready, you better be may
Speaker 1: Lock Clark used to say you better buckley your stuff up,
Speaker 1: and he didn't say stuff. You better buckle your stuff
Speaker 1: up and get ready to play. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a big week for Sean Lee
Speaker 1: because with the two tight ends with the fullback, and
Speaker 1: Cowboys will being base personnel more than they have been
Speaker 1: all season, maybe in their skiing well, right, we continue
Speaker 1: more from Jerry go ahead, Mick, no go. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say you better hope so and not put out
Speaker 1: a defensive end trying to play a strong side linebacker.
Speaker 1: Let's not do that again. Let's not do that again. Please?
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Speaker 1: nicely done, Mickey Spagnola. We got the last eight minutes
Speaker 1: or so of mix shots here, and we've got more
Speaker 1: from Jerry Jones as Mickey is there inside his own
Speaker 1: little bubble at the SWBC Mortgage studios at Ford Center
Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco, you know, and before we
Speaker 1: get to another point on Jerry, he was also asked
Speaker 1: about kind of assessment at that almost halfway point. I know,
Speaker 1: it's nine games. Some of the players that he's been
Speaker 1: really happy with, and he started right on the defensive front.
Speaker 1: He talked about Dorince Armstrong, Alden Smith, DeMarcus Lawrence. Felt
Speaker 1: like those guys have played pretty well up front. And
Speaker 1: then he mentioned the draft choices and he mentioned four
Speaker 1: of the first five draft choices, Lambs, Digs, Gallimore, Badish.
Speaker 1: Those guys, he said, have really stood out to him,
Speaker 1: and he said he they were doing what he thought
Speaker 1: they could do when they drafted him. So he was
Speaker 1: pretty happy with the draft class. The other thing going
Speaker 1: on around here, we've been kind of given it lift
Speaker 1: service talking about how the Cowboys had gone into intensive
Speaker 1: intensified COVID nineteen protocol and just what that means. Well,
Speaker 1: we've finally found out a few things. One of the
Speaker 1: things that it means is, uh, you know, they've been
Speaker 1: having their team meetings in the Ford Center. Uh. They've
Speaker 1: got big screens that are set up on the edge
Speaker 1: of the field and the players kind of disperse in
Speaker 1: the stands and spread out. Well, now they're spreading out
Speaker 1: even further for the team meetings, and also when they
Speaker 1: have the individual position meetings, they've been doing those in
Speaker 1: the Ford Center instead of crammed up in the little
Speaker 1: meeting rooms at the Star that they have for the
Speaker 1: individual positions. Uh, those meetings take place in the corridors
Speaker 1: up up in the Ford Center, and they've spaced those
Speaker 1: out even more. So they're very fortunate they've had the
Speaker 1: facility uh to kind of space out. Jerry talked about
Speaker 1: how they've uh limited now even further uh staff uh,
Speaker 1: coaching personnel that are around the players. Uh. They didn't
Speaker 1: want a bunch of other people around the players as much.
Speaker 1: And the one thing, UH that we have found out
Speaker 1: now is they've created a bubble at the OMNI UH
Speaker 1: for the coaching staff and any other staff that are
Speaker 1: around the players. Uh. They're staying now at the OMNI.
Speaker 1: They're not going home. Jerry mentioned how they had to
Speaker 1: be careful with contact tracing when the players go home. Well,
Speaker 1: the other thing was staff going home too, So they've
Speaker 1: eliminated that now and they're uh, they're they're in the
Speaker 1: bubble at the OMNI next door. And I thought it
Speaker 1: was very interesting what he had to say when he
Speaker 1: was talking about UH strict protocol and talking and he
Speaker 1: was asked about what about himself? What are the things
Speaker 1: that he does to keep himself safe? And I thought
Speaker 1: this was very interesting what Jerry had to say this
Speaker 1: morning on the fan. No, I've changed completely, I really have.
Speaker 1: And I was early. I've been all over the map,
Speaker 1: but boy, I'm double masks. I'm literally thinking that everybody
Speaker 1: I'm around has COVID and I'm thinking I don't want
Speaker 1: to get it, so I'm distance. I'm masks. I don't
Speaker 1: go to anything, but everybody had to test it and UH,
Speaker 1: and I'm the main thing is through all of the
Speaker 1: other other things, so IG all of that, but I
Speaker 1: and why is because I really do feel that we're
Speaker 1: right around the corner. As you know, I'm in an
Speaker 1: age bracket that is one of the would be one
Speaker 1: of the vulnerable, and so it would be ashamed. I'm
Speaker 1: just entering it for me on a personal basis here,
Speaker 1: it would be a shame to go as far as
Speaker 1: we've got in vaccine sitting right here on almost on
Speaker 1: the shelf, and I'll be the first in line to
Speaker 1: have a vaccine. I wonder if we can get in
Speaker 1: enlightened right behind them. Yeah, I want to be right
Speaker 1: there with her. But I thought he had, you know,
Speaker 1: with the CDC. Yeah, it was a good perspective. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say. With the CDC protocols increasing, they're being more careful.
Speaker 1: Sometimes six feet is not enough that talking ten feet,
Speaker 1: especially you're talking indoors. So it's good to see that
Speaker 1: they're adapting to the new protocols. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's good that they have all the tests available there,
Speaker 1: which is amazing. That's the luxury that you have with
Speaker 1: an organization like this. But man, just to even get it,
Speaker 1: he's a scary thing. I've been looking at some of
Speaker 1: the shows that really try and explain to you just
Speaker 1: how horrible this disease is or this virus is. And boy,
Speaker 1: I'm like Jerry at his age, he has to be
Speaker 1: extremely careful. That would be a big blow of course
Speaker 1: to his family, no doubt about it, but even to
Speaker 1: Cowboy Nation it would be something that that you know,
Speaker 1: we just really don't want to go through right now.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad he understands his responsibility in this thing
Speaker 1: because of his just his status as an owner of
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, plus how active he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got so many, so much going on, and he's
Speaker 1: around so many people that and I think that's a
Speaker 1: great attitude to have for all of us. Is we've
Speaker 1: got you have to basically look at it that that
Speaker 1: person that is six feet away from you has COVID
Speaker 1: and you're staying away. I mean, and that's the day.
Speaker 1: I think that's the dangerous thing about the masks. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the masker great, they're fine, you know everything. Sometimes though,
Speaker 1: it gives people a false sense of security and they
Speaker 1: don't do the social distancing because they have the mask on.
Speaker 1: No it's mask plus the social distancing. You have to
Speaker 1: keep people more than arms length two arms lengths away
Speaker 1: from you, you know. And I thought his perspective, and
Speaker 1: I had never thought I had even thought about it
Speaker 1: this way when he mentioned the vaccine, and you're getting
Speaker 1: so close to, you know, maybe be able to get it,
Speaker 1: to not do anything to like, oh, I was that
Speaker 1: close to getting a vaccine, And I took some chances
Speaker 1: and let my guard gown, right, So I was good
Speaker 1: to get good to hear from him. But just understand
Speaker 1: that this team is doing all that you know, and
Speaker 1: you can't. You're never one hundred percent safe, right, You
Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen. All you can do
Speaker 1: is be as careful as you can, uh, don't take chances,
Speaker 1: don't let your guard down. And it sounded like Jerry
Speaker 1: was absolutely doing that. And I told you guys the story.
Speaker 1: It was about a month or so ago when we
Speaker 1: ran into each other. He was going up on the elevator,
Speaker 1: and boy, he had his mask on. I can vouch
Speaker 1: for that. I'm sure he's been talking to missus Jones.
Speaker 1: She's been wagging her finger at him, like you'd better
Speaker 1: be careful, young man, yeah, absolutely, all right, So mickey,
Speaker 1: final minute here, team back on the practice field tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we get resuming a regular work week. Yes, finally, And
Speaker 1: as you know, Mike McCarthy's not going to give away
Speaker 1: any secrets, So who the starting quarterback is going to be,
Speaker 1: who the backup is going to be, as you would expect,
Speaker 1: he said, well, we'll be working through that as we
Speaker 1: go through practice this week. So he wasn't. He wasn't
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, And you know, Bill, you pointed
Speaker 1: it out about Andy Dalton hadn't done anything and two
Speaker 1: and a half weeks, right, so it's almost like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's see what he's got and then you know, you
Speaker 1: liked what three and a half now? Yeah, three and
Speaker 1: a half now, and and you like what Gilbert did,
Speaker 1: but let's see what going forward, what it all looks
Speaker 1: like with uh, with Cooper Rush also, so uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't. He wasn't given that away, just like after
Speaker 1: the reports. Don't forget oh yeah, Ben to Nucci, Yeah,
Speaker 1: please sorry, because he technically is the third quarterback on
Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster, right because Cooper Rush. No,
Speaker 1: we don't, we never forget, that's right. And as I
Speaker 1: was going to say, and think about think about New
Speaker 1: Orleans now. You know, it's almost like, you know, they
Speaker 1: were ready to retire Drew Brees with all the injuries
Speaker 1: he has. And when someone asked, uh, Sean Payton about it,
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, I'll let you know by the
Speaker 1: end of the week. Uh, where we're at with our injuries. So, uh,
Speaker 1: these coaches day don't want to say and he said,
Speaker 1: and we'll have an injury port that's official and then
Speaker 1: you can find out. So not giving anybody a heads
Speaker 1: up on any of this stuff, hey, but just remember
Speaker 1: tell them, tell them the good news Bill. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: are still in it. No, they're not just in it.
Speaker 1: Say they're not just in it. They might be. They
Speaker 1: are in the driver's seat in the NFSIDS. What tomorrow,
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