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Speaker 1: This is me eat your podcast coming at you shirtless, severely,

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Speaker 1: folk bitten and in my case, underwear lessening podcast. You

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Speaker 1: can't predict anything. Okay, we're joined by a very special guest,

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Speaker 1: Bo Jackson. You're okay to hang out for a men

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Speaker 1: while we talked about some other stuff. Got sixty seconds,

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Speaker 1: you can you can weigh in on it. Um, that's

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Speaker 1: want to talk well one, I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: this that I feel so ashamed. I feel so ashamed

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Speaker 1: by something that just happened that I want. I want

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Speaker 1: the whole. I want everyone to know. I'm sitting here,

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Speaker 1: I'm in my home state, and as a guy who's

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Speaker 1: not from my home state, named guy named guy who

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Speaker 1: was was a once my time expert turkey hunter. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: retired expert turkey hunter guy is telling me about a

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Speaker 1: And I went so far as to say, there is

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Speaker 1: was adamant that the fish you were describing is a

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Speaker 1: as u Arthur Fonds rally says that was rude, rue wrong,

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Speaker 1: and the fish does exist. And so I've wanted I

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Speaker 1: want to publicly apologize to you guys, public apology taking

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Speaker 1: the spotted guar, the spotted guard, which is like people

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Speaker 1: I said, the only guar that's here is the long

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Speaker 1: guard looking called guard, which you've heard folks describe as

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Speaker 1: a guardpike yard pike does exist. You were right. I

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Speaker 1: was wrong. Not technically I was wrong. I was just

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Speaker 1: quick news story from Alaska's really interesting. It's just happened.

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Speaker 1: So three dudes, three mugs go out to Kodiak Island

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Speaker 1: hunt bears. Did I you tell you about this story?

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Speaker 1: They go out to Kodiak out. No, it's not. This

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Speaker 1: raining and windy. You know what they were hunting? Bears

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Speaker 1: just happened. What else did he be hunting? Hmmm? I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they had other seasons open this time

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Speaker 1: of year, like what other than gris Give me an example.

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Speaker 1: guess black bear, But they don't have any black bears

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Speaker 1: on Kodiac do you they know? And we still haven't

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Speaker 1: talked about bears. I just said bears SONO good suny grouse. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they could have been hunt I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: could have be hunting suity grouse. Uh. One of them

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Speaker 1: cautionary tale, hunting cautionary tale. Moving on, U Bo Jackson.

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Speaker 1: You you've had all kinds of documentaries made about you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: in trouble was this was this a rural where you did?

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Speaker 1: You go up in a rural location would income area

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Speaker 1: and you had like a bowload of siblings. I have

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Speaker 1: We grew up the woods. No, we were in a

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Speaker 1: neighborhood similar to where we are now, but it's a

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Speaker 1: low income neighborhood. My mom worked too too odd jobs.

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Speaker 1: my cousin and I Jason, we were known in the

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Speaker 1: my uncle's chickens. Esiually we got the crap beat out

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Speaker 1: had about tin feathers on it, a rooster named Red Skeleton,

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Speaker 1: And we don't know whatever happened to Red Skeleton, but

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Speaker 1: were when I when I was a kid, if you

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Speaker 1: mother is the uh. My mother is a backbone of

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Speaker 1: her too early at the age of sixty. So um, Yes,

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Speaker 1: about my mom. All my strength, all my courage, all

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Speaker 1: my knowledge come from her. But she was a hard lady.

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Speaker 1: She was a hard lady. And when I say hard lady,

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Speaker 1: she could whoop your butt worse than any man could.

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Speaker 1: So and being the eighth of ten kids, I got more,

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Speaker 1: not spankings, not but whippings. I got ass whippings with

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Speaker 1: I would only get about four whippings. That was a

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Speaker 1: good week for me. Well, now that you have kids,

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Speaker 1: do you feel that you were getting whippings over things

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Speaker 1: that weren't warranted? No, it was warranted. Every time a

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Speaker 1: time a kid got hit in the head with a brick,

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Speaker 1: I did it. Wind shield in the car. I did it. No,

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Speaker 1: I did it, that's just it. I did it. We

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Speaker 1: and we go steal apples from my neighbor's tree. And

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Speaker 1: you sit around with your buddy, And they said, how

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00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: on the hill you get up there and you do

430
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: a commencement speech and you started worse than mail Tillers

431
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: because I heard it starting from my father, I and

432
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: two sisters. And uh. In college, I would not do

433
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: an interview after football game because I started, I get

434
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: stuck on a word, and uh, my sports information director said, Bo,

435
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to start talking to the media because

436
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: if you don't, it doesn't matter if you run for

437
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: five yards on Saturday and they will praise you in

438
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: the paper on Sunday, But if you don't do interviews

439
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: with them, they are going to look at you in

440
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: a different light and think that you're cocky, and think

441
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: that your butthole and that's in that And on Monday

442
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: they can cut you down solo with their pin that

443
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: you have to stand on a step ladder to scratch

444
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: a snake's belly. Because that I don't want to talk

445
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: and and yes, so what I did was, um, I

446
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: interviewed myself every morning in the mirror around six o'clock

447
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: with my toothbrush and piss my roommate off because he

448
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: tried to get some sleep. And I'm in the bathroom

449
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: and I'm interviewing myself. I'm talking loud and and I'm stuttering,

450
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: and I'm stammering, and I'm trying to get to the

451
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: point where I'm relaxing enough to talk in front of

452
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: the media. And one thing that I learned with stutters,

453
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: I have been asked to during the during the during

454
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: the Stutters Association Board, be chairman of the Stutters Association Board.

455
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: I have a lot of things going on. I would

456
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: love to do something with them, but right now, I

457
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: got too much on my plate. But the thing that

458
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: I learned is that stuttering is like swimming. When you're

459
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: go in the water, you have to hold your breath,

460
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: and before you hold your breath, you gotta feel your

461
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: lung stull of air. It's the same with talking. A

462
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know it because they it's natural.

463
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: Before we speak, we always inhale get along full of air.

464
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: And people that stutter don't know how to exhale while

465
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: they're talking. They exhale all that air at wants, and

466
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: that's how they get stuck on the word. I have

467
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: had people, older people in my community, to say, if

468
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: you want to stop stuttering, get a dime and put

469
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: on your tongue. Hell I swallow that dime because I'm

470
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: just so hyper. That didn't work. It was too poor

471
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: to get a speech therapist, so forth and soon so

472
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: I figured it out on my own. And that's across

473
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: the board. Most stuttering is just because of that reason.

474
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: People don't know how to breathe properly when they started

475
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: talking and they get excited, and when they get excited,

476
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: the excel all the air and they still try to

477
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: get that last word out and they got no air

478
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: left and get stuck on it. And what I say,

479
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: before you speak, think of your think of yourself. You're

480
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: about them go on the water, swim the length of

481
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: the pool, feel your lungs full of bear, and just

482
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: let the words flow off your mouth and ex hell

483
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: slightly as you're talking. And when your lungs are half

484
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: depleted in hell again, continue to talk. Well you you

485
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: seem to. I mean you've got licked now. Yeah, practice

486
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: my ass out in the mirror with that toothbrush paid off,

487
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: So you had. I'm just making assumption because you said

488
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: you're like growing up in and I want to get

489
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: back to whatever happened in this quarry. We gotta remember

490
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: the court, but make an assumption that that you grew

491
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: up a bunch of siblings mom dirt, poor dirt, poor,

492
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: low income area. You had to um do you do

493
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,239
Speaker 1: you feel that you had to like self develop a

494
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: lot of like a lot of the discipline you talk about.

495
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: What's sort of like a commitment to go to school,

496
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, like a commitment to overcome your starter and

497
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: be able to do interviews? Or do you think something

498
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: you carried something with you from the way you were

499
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: brought up and the way your mom raised you to

500
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: teach you to be like because I can only imagine

501
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: the level of discipline it requires to play professional sports. Right.

502
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: This is all. This is all the discipline from my mom. Period.

503
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: And my mom told us said, look, you go out

504
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: and get in trouble to where you go to jail,

505
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: you will stay there. I'm not gonna take my heart

506
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: earned money that i gotta keep my lights on, keep

507
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: a roof over the head, keep foot on the table

508
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: to pay to get your dumb ass out of jail.

509
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm not putting up your bail. And she said that

510
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: to all of our kids. We never got in trouble,

511
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: big coach. We knew my mom was serious. Her word

512
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: was golden. If she told you that she was going

513
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: to do something, she did it, period. Period. That's just

514
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: how it is. And I'm the type of person that

515
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: once I went to college and when I was a

516
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: young kid, everybody looked at me as the community's worst

517
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: nightmare because I was a terror and people wouldn't let

518
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: me come over their house to play with their kids.

519
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: And I was labeled by the time I was twenty

520
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: one to either be in prison or in the cemetery.

521
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: That was just me, and I knew that I knew

522
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: people thought that way of me. So when I got

523
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: the scholarship to go to college. I said, I'm gonna

524
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: make something out of this. And the last thing that

525
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to do was disappointed my mom to where

526
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: she got to go to church and have the people

527
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: in church there she is, did you hear about her

528
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: son getting kicked out of college or got put in

529
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: jail or so forth and to on. I didn't want

530
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: to bring that type of shame ridicule, not only to

531
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: my mom, but to my family, to my friends and

532
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: so forth, and so so I walked that straight now

533
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: a plan, and I was determined to make something out

534
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: of myself. I had a I had a I had

535
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: a thing when I was a kid. I said, once

536
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: I grew up, I'm gonna never move back home, even

537
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: even though it's home, it's where my heart is. I'm

538
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: never gonna move back home. I'm going to continue to

539
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: go forward. And I said, I'm gonna get out of

540
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: this neighborhood either by going to the military to learn

541
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: how to flight jets because I'm an airplane fanatic, or

542
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to college. Well, the military thing didn't

543
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: work out, but I had somebody wanted to pay for

544
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: me to go to college, and in change, they wanted

545
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: me to run up and down the football field for him.

546
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: So I helped them feel the stands. I used them

547
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: to get an education. And getting back to this the

548
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: strip pit thing that swimming. Yes, crew had a big

549
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: crew and we and we were going swimming. Well, we

550
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: had to pass this. We had to pass this pick

551
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: pit on our way. We're board hot as hell during

552
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: the summer. Picked up a rock and through at the

553
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: pigs and it was fun. And the next day we

554
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: did the same thing, and it got worse and worse.

555
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: In about two weeks we had killed about we killed

556
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 1: about thirteen thousand dollars worth of this This guy's he

557
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: didn't live in the neighborhood. He lived with rocks, with sticks,

558
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: with everything. The pigs is killing him. We we we

559
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: murdered this man's pigs because that's what we did. I

560
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: had my my gang, and if my gang didn't do

561
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: what I did, they got beat up. So if I

562
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: threw rocks, they had to drow. I picked up a

563
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: stick and whack the hog. They had to pick up

564
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: a stick and white the hall and the barber, the

565
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: neighborhood barber, the man that cut my hair from the

566
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: time I was one year old, until I left to

567
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: go to college. His house was about a block from

568
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: that pig pen, and he heard the pig squill it

569
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: and he came down and we were whacking on this

570
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: big pig, and he came down and yelled hey, and

571
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: shot in the air. He didn't shoot at us, but

572
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: he shot in the air to scare us, because the

573
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: minister asked him to watch, oh, because somebody was killing

574
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: his pigs. And he came down and shot in the air,

575
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: and everybody looked and scattered, and out of thirteen kids,

576
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 1: guess who he recognized? The kid who is Harry's been

577
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: cutting me? And I jumped the fence and I'm running down.

578
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: The day before it rained like the Dickens. That's why

579
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: we were going swimming, because we knew the strip pit

580
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: was full of water. And I jumped the fence of

581
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: the pig pen and I'm running and I know that

582
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: there's a ditch big that's about ten feet down, and

583
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: across the ditch is about twenty I ran and cleared

584
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: the ditch, laying on the opposite bank, and we have

585
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: red clay down south and the bank was still soft,

586
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: and I sunk up to my calves in the red clay.

587
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: When I landed on the other bank, pulled my feet out.

588
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: My shoe was stuck in there. Refounding, got my shoe,

589
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: put it on there, hauled as home. Got home, went

590
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: on the side of the house, rents off my shoes

591
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: and everything. When it went upstairs, changed clothes, took my

592
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: money clothes and hit them in the hamster under the

593
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: underneath the regular dirty clothes. So forth. It's on like

594
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: that's gonna save me. And I'm sitting there and watching

595
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: mone off. And I'm sitting on my bed at home,

596
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: and I hear a car pulled up, and I look

597
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: out the window and I see the barber in his

598
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: truck and the sheriff's car behind him. And I'm like, oh,

599
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: because my mom said, and I'm thinking, if you get

600
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: in trouble, you're going to jail, I promise you. And

601
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: they walk in the door and I hear my mom

602
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: and she called me vinca fancer. Get down here. She said,

603
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: if I have to come up there and get you,

604
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw you down the stairs. The sheriff was sitting,

605
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: the sheriff titting tuning up there, and uh came in there,

606
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: and I'm like looking and she said, Mr McGruder said you,

607
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: Mr McGruder, Mr McGruder, Mr McGruder, and UH said, you

608
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: and your friends killing this man's pigs and me. When

609
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: I lie, I started and all the male tillers came

610
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: out big time, and I couldn't even get two or

611
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: three words out. And she said, well off, off, She said, well, officer,

612
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: if he did it, if Mr McGruder said that he

613
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: saw him because he has been cutting his hair since

614
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: he was one year old, and if he said he

615
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: and he said, boy, don't you know I know your face?

616
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: He said, when I shot that pistol up in there,

617
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 1: all of your turned around and looked at me. He said,

618
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: what happened to the to the short pants that you

619
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: were wearing, your little cut off jeans that you were wearing.

620
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: Where's your sneakers? I bet they're full of mud because

621
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: I went down and look where you jumped over the

622
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: fence and over the ditch, and I saw where you

623
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: landed on the other side, and your feet you have

624
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: to sink in the mud. And my sister win and

625
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: found my shoes. Now I rent the mud off of

626
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: the side, whether red clay was underneath, and the gruise

627
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: madam and my mom to incriminating evidence, and I started

628
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: crying and I squealed on everybody. I turned the dime

629
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: on everybody that was with me, And luckily the owner

630
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: of those pigs were a minister across down and he said,

631
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna send them all. He said about what

632
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: I am gonna allow. They all gonna have to pay

633
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: me back. They're all gonna have to get a job.

634
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: You can't play summer baseball. You gotta get a job.

635
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: And my mother mom said, you're better get that lawnmore

636
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: running on the side of house, because that's the only

637
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: way you're gonna make money this summer. You better fix

638
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: your bicycle and get that lawn more running. And you're

639
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: gonna cut grass. You're gonna cut grass five to eating

640
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday, and you will not go on that

641
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: playground and play baseball. So I missed a whole summer

642
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: of baseball because that to payback, I think I have

643
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: to pay back, like, oh, almost eight hundred dollars. I

644
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: had to make eight hundred dollars before school started. What

645
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: do you what do you think? Like? What was driver?

646
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: You want to kill the pigs? Just boredom? Let's put

647
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: it to you like this if you view because do

648
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: you view like now? And at some point you told

649
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: me about the first time you went deer hunt. Do

650
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: you feel that it is hunting to you like now

651
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: that you like the hunt that's hunting, do you feel

652
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: different than what that did? Because I'm hunting to get

653
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: away from being the celebrity that I've become. Um, back then,

654
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: I did what I did out of boredom and just

655
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: mischiefs were just like, were you angry? I wasn't angry,

656
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: just bored. There was nothing to do. There was nothing

657
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: to do with my dad. We sat and we had UM.

658
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: We sat and we had UH. We we had UM

659
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: free lunch center. We had a freelance center down on

660
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: the thing and UM we had free lunchers. Then wants

661
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: to lunch were over. We had nothing to do. We

662
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: go on the rec center get free lunches, and right

663
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: after that there was nothing that we could do. So

664
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: we had to make our own fun and we did

665
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: that by doing whatever we did, and we ended up

666
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: killing the man's pigs. Was that the last big trouble

667
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: you got into. That was the only trouble I got into.

668
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: So once that was over. I knew because my mother

669
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: sent my oldest brother to reform school when he was

670
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: sixteen because he wouldn't go to school. She dressed him nice,

671
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: he wouldn't go to school, so she got the judge

672
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: to send him to reform school to make it. And

673
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: he had to stay there til he was twenty one

674
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: years old, and even when then when he got out

675
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: at twenty one, but the judge told him, you're either

676
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: gonna go and listen to the armed forces. Are we

677
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: gonna send you to the big house? Take your pick.

678
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: Your mother has instructed me to tell you you're either

679
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: gonna oh to the armed forces to make something out

680
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: of yourself or go to the big house. Take your pick.

681
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me. A week later he no,

682
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: I said, about two and a half weeks later, he

683
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: was in basic training. And uh, he was in basic training.

684
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: I think in um forbid, in Georgia. And I knew

685
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: that that she would have sent me there. She would

686
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: have sent me there. Yet he stayed in service for yes, yes, yes,

687
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: my oldest brother, and um, he told me the horror

688
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: stories just from being the new kid in the reform school.

689
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: And he was sixteen and he had to beat up

690
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: the bully. He had to literally walk up to the

691
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: bully and hit him as hard as he could and

692
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: break his nose. And they put him in solitary for

693
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: a week and sent the bully to the hospital get

694
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: his nose fixed. And when he got out first day

695
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: he got out. Leading up to that, the bully and

696
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: his buddies for called weeks straight tried to sodomize him

697
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: in prison in the in the reform school. And the

698
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: guy was about twenty years old and he was sixteen,

699
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: and and when he got out of his punishment for

700
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: being a week, went to the cave, went to the

701
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: cafeteria ate his lunch, when in dumped this trade, kept

702
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: the trade, walk up to that bully and whack him

703
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: again across the nose with that trade again to let

704
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: that bully know that he isn't to be messed with

705
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: ever again. And everybody respected him from that point on

706
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: because they said that cat's crazy, don't mess with him.

707
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: But they never tried to mess with him again. They

708
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: never tried to mess with it again. So he had

709
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: to break the bullies nose twice to let everybody know

710
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: that he's not gonna be mess with so and I

711
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: knew that my mom would have sent me there, and

712
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: I didn't want no part of that, So straighten, No,

713
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: I didn't want the lifestyle. So I straightened, period. And

714
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: that's that. That was my scared straight moment at thirteen.

715
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: And I've been been walking to straight narrow ever since then.

716
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: And like I said, it's just because the last thing

717
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: that I want to do is disappoint my mother. So

718
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: tell me about how it came to be that you

719
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: got you mentioned earlier, the first time you, um, we're

720
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: invited to go deer hunting when you were freshman in school.

721
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: Freshman in school, how did like, what was your interest

722
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: and what were you drawn to? And how did the

723
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: invitation come about? And then what was your sort of

724
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: perception of what was going on? My freshman year, we

725
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: lived in a football door and I punter named Louis

726
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: Kolbert Louis Coba was out in the yard shooting his bowl.

727
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: And I was fascinated with bows because should make mine.

728
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: And I've never seen a compound bow. And he was

729
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: shooting uh compound bow and he was shooting the style

730
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: foam cup about twenty five yards away and he would

731
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: shoot and I couldn't see the arrow, but I would

732
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: see that cup where the arrow would hit it and

733
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: stick in the ground, and I see that cup. Moment, damn,

734
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: he hit that cup. I watched him again, and I

735
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: watched him for fifteen minutes and he hit that cup.

736
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: He go pull those six arrows out and go back

737
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: and stand there standing on the picnic table and shoot

738
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: that cup like and I'm like, wow, I like that.

739
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: I went down and can you show me how to

740
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: shoot that? And he did. He took me five minutes. Yeah,

741
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: and uh well I wasn't at the time. So he

742
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: showed me how to shoot that boat. And within five minutes,

743
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: I was hitting that cup and I was fascinated with

744
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 1: so I was looking So I was looking forward every

745
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: Sunday evening because we played on Saturday. Every Sunday, after

746
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: we watched film our, I was looking forward to getting

747
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: with him to go shoot this bow watching watch we

748
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: played on the football game. We would go and shoot

749
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: this bowl. And I had to go home through a

750
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: little town called alex Alexander City, Alabama called it alex City.

751
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: There's a highway that goes from Auburn to Birmingham called

752
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: two eighty and Alex City is on two eighty I

753
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: stopped at a little sporting good store there in the

754
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: first boat that I ever bought was a fred Bear

755
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: both called sixty three dollars with the arrows. To this day,

756
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: I still have that bow with the same string on

757
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: it that I bought on it. I won't pull it back,

758
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: but I still got that bow. It was about ten pounds.

759
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: It's a compound bow. No um, I had sights on

760
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: it because I couldn't shoot instincting, and I put because

761
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: I shot his bowl and he showed me you look

762
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: through this little peep hole here and you put that

763
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: top pin on what you want to hit, and just

764
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny we were talking about you mentioned

765
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: someone shooting instinctive with the compound. I kind of forgot

766
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: about it. But the first year I shot, the first

767
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: couple of year I ever, Yeah, first several year I

768
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: ever shot with the bowl. That's how we were talking

769
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: to shoot. We shot fingers, no releases, we shot fingers

770
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: and no sites and just shot instinctive with the compound

771
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: bowl with the flip arrest down. You remember flip arrest Yes,

772
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: a little yeah, remembers I had a flip arrests on

773
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: my boat. But the man that taught me how to

774
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: hunt the first time I ever went hunting. His name

775
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: was George man Um. He's probably one of the most

776
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: famous bowl hunters from the state of Alabama. And he

777
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: taught me. How How did he get how did he

778
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: get interested in you? Though I got interested in him.

779
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: I think through our team doctor, because our team doctor

780
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: hunted on his property. He had a lot of property

781
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: and right outside of Auburn, right outside the campus, no

782
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: more than thirty minutes from the campus, and our team

783
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: doctor and he took me and and I set up

784
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: in a tree stand with the rifle the first time,

785
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: on about a one acre wheat field, and he said,

786
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: you sit here. If you see a buck, take him.

787
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: If you want to take him, take him and don't

788
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: get out of the tree until I come and get you. Well,

789
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, buck walked out right before dark, dropped

790
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: him right down the spot. And I'm sitting there in

791
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: the stand. About twenty seconds later, after I shot that, dear,

792
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: my knees started shaking and trim like, what the hill's wrong?

793
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: I got buck fever, legs shaking, and once I got

794
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: that under control, it got dark. So I'm thinking well,

795
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna come and get me. Six o'clock around. It

796
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: gets dark at five thirty during the fall. Seven o'clock

797
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: comes around, you know, George, come and get me. Eight

798
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: thirty comes around, and you can't see nothing. You could

799
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: hear stuff walking around the woods. And I've never been

800
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: deer hunting before in my life. This is my first time.

801
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: So I get down from the stand, and I got

802
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: the rifle across my shoulder, and I'm getting down from

803
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: the tree stand. I could hear stop walking in, don't stop,

804
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: something walking stop, And I put one foot on the

805
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: ground and a dear blue at me. I never and

806
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was. And I went back

807
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: up that day. I'm lad got back in that stand

808
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: and I chambered around because I'm thinking, bigot, I'm thinking

809
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: every monster in the world that you could think of

810
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: at that time. It's waiting on me to come down

811
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: these steps. And I went up there and I sat.

812
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: I tried to go back down it again, and the

813
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: same thing happened back up the damn tree stand. So

814
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: he ended up coming get me. What he did? He

815
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: sat and he dozed off in this rocking chair on

816
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: the trump board. So he didn't end up coming get

817
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: me till nine o'clock. But I didn't get out of

818
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: that damn tree stand until I saw the lights of

819
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: his truck coming through the woods. And when he came

820
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: through the woods, the lights lit up the woods. They

821
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: were dear everywhere. There were deer everywhere. We got down,

822
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: got my deer, and the rest is history. I was.

823
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: He taught me how to He taught me how to

824
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: really shoot my bow, But my first deal was with

825
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: the rifle. So did you then take off and start

826
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: hunting all the time or did you have like sort

827
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: of tend to your career and then come back to

828
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: it later. No, But I hunted and fish. That was

829
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: my way of getting off a campus. Like I said,

830
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: that was my way back then, still getting away from

831
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: being bo Jack's. I get with him and we talked

832
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: hunting because he would make his own arrows, and he

833
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: shot these big, these eastern arrows with the Have you

834
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: ever seen the Simmons broadheads broadhead called Simmons, it's a

835
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: one piece of it's a one piece steel broadhead that's

836
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: about two grand. It's called a Simmons land shark, no

837
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: big broadhead. And he fleshed his own arrows, and he

838
00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: shot these easterns. These were like seven teams. They look

839
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: like your first grade pencil, that pencil, these were telephone posts.

840
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: And he shoot extinctive and he has killed every animent

841
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: that you could think of with that. And he taught

842
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: me how to hunt. He taught me how to hunt,

843
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: and so forth and so on, and uh. It was

844
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: just one of the things that I do so till

845
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: this day. All of my hunting skills, all of my

846
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: hunting knowledge that I know, is a credit of George P. Man.

847
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: He passed away about six years ago. He passed about

848
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: six seven years ago. Yes, but he taught me how

849
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: to hunt. When you were coming up through your professional career,

850
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: did you did you speak openly about hunting or was

851
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: it just not something that came up or you shot

852
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: away from talking about it. I spoke openly about hunting

853
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: to people that hunt that wanted to period. But no,

854
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: I didn't go running brag about well I'm a big

855
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: time hunter in anything like that. Now it's just whoever

856
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: brought up hunting in a conversation, I openly talked about it.

857
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: That was just like I say, that's my escape, that's

858
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: one of my escapes from my professional life has taken

859
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: on more relevancy now though later in life. With your

860
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: kids or no. Um, my oldest son, he likes a

861
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: pheasant hunt with me. He's a horrible shot, but he

862
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: goes out with me, and and my other two don't

863
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: have interest in it. My youngest son and my daughter.

864
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: My oldest he goes sometimes with me. We uh, did

865
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: you try to get him into it? And they didn't

866
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: want to get into it. You know, one thing that

867
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: I one thing that I've never done. I've never pushed

868
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: my kids at anything, but but education. If you want

869
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: to do it, you can do it. If you want

870
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: to pursue something, you aren't going to pursue it for

871
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: we and then give it up because just too hard.

872
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: You will stick with them. So both of my sons

873
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: they played junior high football, and everybody expected them them

874
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: to be both Jackson, both Jackson type, which they weren't.

875
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: And I never pushed them at it. And I just

876
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: despised parents that sit up and push their kids and

877
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: push their kids and push their kids, because in the end,

878
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: when they get to be teenagers, they are gonna hate

879
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: that sport and they are going to despise your parents

880
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: for pushing them in that sport. You gotta let a

881
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: kid make up his kids or her mind if they

882
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: want to pursue that sport or not. Because that's kind

883
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: of funny thing about the way you were describing your upbringing.

884
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: This here you have. You know, you're someone who many

885
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: people will site as the greatest athlete of all time.

886
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: And your mom was holding you back from playing sports

887
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: rather than putting you in all the traveling camps, and

888
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: didn't have the means, didn't have the money too. We

889
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: had a little league baseball team which was free. You

890
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: signed up to play, and I did. At was eleven

891
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: years old. Little league and nobody was every everybody was

892
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: afraid to catch, to be the catcher, I said, I'll catch.

893
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: One day, I caught. The next day I pitched. Next

894
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: day I played short stop. Next day I caught. And

895
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: the little league season was a month. We played four

896
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: or five games. We played on Saturday and we played

897
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: on Sunday. And the season lasts about a month a

898
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: month and a half max. Then when that was over,

899
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: I moved up and played Pony league team. I played

900
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: with the I played let's say I played with them.

901
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: I played with the third team to sixteen year olds.

902
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: And when in the middle of the Pony League season,

903
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: the catcher for the men semi pro baseball team wrecked

904
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: on his motorcycle and broke his leg. I guess who

905
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: was a catcher at eleven years old for the men,

906
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: said my pros league. And I was throwing him out

907
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: on my knees and I was getting hits at eleven

908
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: years old. And when we get off the when we

909
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: if we would go to the next town to play,

910
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: we didn't have busses and every right down because we

911
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: got on the back of the pickup trucks. So we

912
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: ride in the bed of the pickup truck and go

913
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: to the next town and play. And I get off

914
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: and I put on the catcher's gear, and all the

915
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: other team that, hey, you all are gonna get that

916
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: kid hurt. You're gonna get that kid hurt. He don't

917
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: need to be playing with us. And the coach said,

918
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: y'a all, just wait, you all just wait. And I'm catching,

919
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: and I'm calling signals and i'm and I'm catching like

920
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: a major league catcher. I'm picking stuff out of the dirt,

921
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: and their speed, sir for the other team got on

922
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: base and tried to steal on me. I threw him

923
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: out from my knees and they were like wow. And

924
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: when the game was over, the coach from the other

925
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: team say, hey, I tell what if you come play

926
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: for my team next summer. I'll buy your brand new bicycle.

927
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: I will buy you a brand new bixyle. I bought

928
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: your brand new tents speak, I'll bout your brand new

929
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: tens for you. But was it you've successfully raised kids

930
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: down right, and they didn't you know, like you mentioned,

931
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 1: people would say to you like, oh, they're gonna be

932
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: just like you were, the next generation whatever. Um, So

933
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: did you have something did you harbor any kind of

934
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: like even if you didn't act on it? Did you

935
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: have hopes about like Rich was asked about right, like

936
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: whether you kids grew up like in a hunting fish

937
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: as you did. And you're saying that you didn't have

938
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: expectations there and didn't have a desire to push mean

939
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: then in direction, is it just that you didn't act

940
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: on it but you still hoped it or did you

941
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: not even hope? No? No No, no, no, no no no.

942
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: I wanted my kids to be successful at whatever the

943
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: hard to desire. I'm not like I said. The only

944
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: thing that I'm gonna push you at it's being a

945
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: good student. You have to be a good student because

946
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: your mom graduated college with a doctorate, your dad graduated

947
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: college with the BS. And if we did it, you're

948
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: gonna do it. What's your wife have a doctor? Then? Uh?

949
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: Clinical psychology. I read somewhere that you I feel like

950
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: I read somewhere that you said you wouldn't want your

951
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: kid to play football. Not now what I know. It's

952
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: just the game is violent. The game is violent, and

953
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: and um, the game will use you up. NFL stands

954
00:55:53,000 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: not for long, but you but you're talking about head

955
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: injuries or just hit hip injuries, head head injuries. Yes,

956
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: and more and more young kids now everybody want their

957
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: kids to play tackle football and not in not realizing

958
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: that a young child's brain it's not fully developed until

959
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: he's in his twenties, and they still get brain damage.

960
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: So you're constantly banging heads like that. The only animal

961
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: that God has put on this earth that has a

962
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: protective cushion around this brain is big horn sheet. Oh

963
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna get. Um, come on, protective

964
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: cushion around their heads, around their brain. A big horn

965
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: can withstand the blow I'll take to crack your skull.

966
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: But that's not A big horn can still have brain damage.

967
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: Come on, five seconds, Come on you you all think

968
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: of it, because Matt sitting there like a deer caught

969
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: in the head like he don't he really don't. He's

970
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: a little I don't know. You don't know. Come on, Matt,

971
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: do you know? No, go back to sleep, all right?

972
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: Come on, God, do you know? Do you know what

973
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: it is? No? Man, I don't know. A woodpecker, man,

974
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: woodpecker is the only animal God has made that has

975
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: a protected cushion around his brain. Every everything else has

976
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: liquid between his brain and Michelle, Oh, I didn't know that.

977
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: You learn two things today? And since your kids want

978
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: since your kids want woodpeckers, you didn't want him, don't

979
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: want him in football? Know what you know? Don't know? No?

980
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: Does it feel funny for you to say that? Do

981
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: you feel like you're No, you don't feel like you're

982
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: being like a trader? No, not at all. I love

983
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: my kids. I want my kids to grow up to

984
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: have a normal life. I want my kids to have

985
00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: a normal life. I know the do you know what

986
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: will make you see the light. Go watch the movie

987
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: Concussion watching them short. Watch that movie and get in

988
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: touch with me after after you watch it and see

989
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: because most of the guys that they talked about in

990
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: the movie, I either played with or played against, and

991
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: I knew them and I didn't know that they were

992
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: dead until I saw the movie. Until I saw the movie.

993
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: And I know players right now, famous players, Hall of

994
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: Fame players that has twenty four hour helpers because if

995
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: they leave the house, they don't know how to get back.

996
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: Did you have any concussions? I think I had one.

997
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: I know I had one playing against the Raiders, and

998
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't know who we were playing, but I just

999
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: I think we're I think we're playing I think we're

1000
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: playing Denver. I'm not mistaken because this is my second

1001
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: year with the Raiders. The first year, we ran a

1002
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: play that was designed. It was a It was a

1003
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: tall sweep to the right to where the whole team

1004
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: swept right there because we know that the defense don't

1005
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: want me to get on the corner because if I

1006
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: beat you to the corner, I'm gonna beat everybody to

1007
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: the goal line. So when we ran the talk, we

1008
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: had a play that's called the reverse sweep. So we

1009
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: he pits the ball to me, running right, I take

1010
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: two steps, stop and pivot because everybody is sprinting to

1011
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: the side line, and beat everybody back to this sideline. Well,

1012
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: the cornerback stayed home, who was a guy named Mike

1013
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: Harton whose friend of mine. He stayed home for Denver,

1014
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: and I only had him to get pass to get

1015
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: the goal line. I swelled back, beat everybody around this side,

1016
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: and he lined up on me and I fake right

1017
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: or left and ran right over, broke his collar bone

1018
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: and score. The next year we ran the same play.

1019
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: And after that season that I ran over my card

1020
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: and he got traded to the Raiders, so he was

1021
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: now my teammate, and um, we ran that same play.

1022
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: The same thing happened really verse ran over the cornerback

1023
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: and as I'm running over him after I hit him,

1024
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily as part of the plan that you

1025
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: run over the cornerback. Well, I either, well, I couldn't

1026
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: run around him because he was right on the sideline

1027
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: and I had pursued coming this way. So it just

1028
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: goes straight. Go north, no eastern west, here, go north,

1029
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: and I run the guy over I can't think of

1030
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: who it was. And I'm stepping on him, trying to

1031
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: get past him, and somebody comes up behind me and

1032
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: it hits me right behind the ear. Their helmet hit

1033
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: my helmet right behind the ear, and it's like somebody

1034
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: somebody just turned, not put but short circuited me. And

1035
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: I just went numb and left and the ball fell out.

1036
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: But I fell on the ball and I had enough

1037
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: still here to say, get the ball back, get the

1038
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: ball back. And then one time realized that I had

1039
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: the ball all that I didn't lose it in a fumble.

1040
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling myself, get up. You can't let these m

1041
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: mel know that you hurt. Get up, get up, get

1042
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: to the sideline and just rest. Just get up and

1043
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: get to the saline. So I get up, and in

1044
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: my ears, I you got eighty thousand people just in

1045
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: the stands. I can't hear nothing but the in my ear.

1046
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: And I get up and like, just get to the sideline.

1047
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm undoing my chin strap and I walked through and

1048
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: I worked my way through the crowd, through my teammates,

1049
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: and I go and I go to sit on the bench.

1050
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: Now used a profanity word here, but but I worked

1051
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: my way through the crowd and I go to sit

1052
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: on the bench and as soon as my butt touches

1053
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: the bench, somebody grasps my arm and yanked up and said,

1054
01:01:54,760 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: you on the other side, motherfucker. I used serious swear

1055
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: to God, and they pushed me out on the field.

1056
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: And I'm walking across the field and I looked down

1057
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: and my feet are my feet not touching the ground.

1058
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm levitating off the ground. And I see both trainers

1059
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: running across the field. You know how you and that

1060
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: love story to where you see both couples on the

1061
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: beach running towards each other. And they're running towards me

1062
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: and slow motion like that, and I'm just looking at

1063
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: him smiles and ere. They come and get me, take

1064
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: me to the bench, and I don't know Jack. They said,

1065
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: sit him on the bench and asked him questions until

1066
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: he gets annoyed that they asked me. And they asked

1067
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: me simple questions that I should have known. They asked me,

1068
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: was that married? I didn't know. They asked me how

1069
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: many kids I had? I said one, I had three.

1070
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: They asked me who were we playing? So I figured

1071
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: that I cheat and look out on the field and

1072
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: I saw red and white, but it was orange and blue.

1073
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: I thought we were I said Buffalo. They said, hell, no,

1074
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: we're playing Differ. He said what's the score? I said,

1075
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if they said you scored the first

1076
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Food score was seven. I didn't know that.

1077
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: They asked me a litting your questions, and Steve Burline

1078
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: was the backup quarterback, so he sat beside me, and

1079
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: I sat between Steve Burline and my fullback, Steve Smith,

1080
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: and they were asking me questions and I didn't know anything.

1081
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: And they said, dude, you know your wife name? I

1082
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: am I married? I'm serious. I was just that gone.

1083
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: And the thing that brought me back after they asked

1084
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: me about fifty questions, Steve Burline said, wins pay Day

1085
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: said Monday. I knew, didn't paid, And I said it

1086
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: just like that Monday. And when I said that, because

1087
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: we are also trying to watch the police running the stadium,

1088
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: because the Raider fans fight. If you come to come

1089
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: to come to the coliseum and pull for the other

1090
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: team or anything bad about the Raiders, the fans fight,

1091
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: So the cops are running trying to break up fights.

1092
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: So we're watched watching the cops running as they're asking

1093
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: me questions, and a gunshot goes on bow and I duck,

1094
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: I crens and everybody starts running, and I'm like, where

1095
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: is everybody? And Steve Smith calling Smitty. I said, Smitty,

1096
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: where the hell is is everybody going? I said, somebody shoot?

1097
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: He says, halftime full? So I said, where is everybody

1098
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: going to the locker room? I said, which, where is

1099
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: the locker room? He said, grabbed on to my jersey

1100
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: and just hold on, like grabbed on to his jersey

1101
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: and followed them to the locker room. My concussion. I

1102
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: had one concussion and that was it. I remember it

1103
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: like it was yesterday. And the day after that. Everybody

1104
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: that got the injured gotta go and get treatment on Monday,

1105
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: and I'm driving that home. I lived in Pla del

1106
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: Rey at the time, upside the mountain where you can

1107
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: overlook the beach and everything, not too far from the

1108
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: oil refineries that's behind l a X Airport, And I

1109
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: had to go down Lincoln Boulevard to go home, and

1110
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: there's a supermarket right there. I think it's Albertson's right there,

1111
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: and I knew that I was sold to turn at

1112
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: that Albertson's. But I didn't know. I forgot how to

1113
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: get to my house. And this is when they had

1114
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: the big block phones, that big phone that was about

1115
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: five pounds, that was like a military walkie talking. I

1116
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: had that phone, called my wife. I looked at my

1117
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: wallet and got my wife's number. I called her and

1118
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know how to get home. She said,

1119
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: stop playing. I said, I'm serious. I said, I'm at

1120
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 1: the corner of so and so, and I forgot how

1121
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: to get back to the house that we were renting,

1122
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: and we have been there for a month and a half.

1123
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: I totally forgot. And she got in her car, came

1124
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: up and brought the sitter with her. Sitter draw my

1125
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: car and got in the car with my wife and

1126
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: she took me home. And that was the only concussion

1127
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: that I had, So yes, and we have in there

1128
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: are players that have had a dozen concussions. One was

1129
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: enough for me and and um, I didn't know it

1130
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: at the time, but I went back and played the

1131
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: third quarter of the game. Not trying to say anything

1132
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: negative about the sport, but at the time that was

1133
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: something that was pushed under the rug and they didn't

1134
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: come out. Nobody talked about it. Doctors didn't talk about it,

1135
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: but they knew, and um, so when they asked me,

1136
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: and I watched them the little Friday Night tykes, the

1137
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: football games that they have on National TV Night between

1138
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: the little level leagues. And in that movie Concussions, they

1139
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: show these weekend warrior coaches coaching these little kids and

1140
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: they get them twenty yards apart and let them run

1141
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,479
Speaker 1: head on with each other. This is how the movie ends.

1142
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: These two kids but heads like ram and they knock

1143
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: each other out. You had the same wife the whole time.

1144
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: M I think, what's your how long you've been married?

1145
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: How long I've been married? It'll be thirty two years

1146
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: this September. What's your what's your best piece of marriage advice?

1147
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: What's your best piece of marriage advice? Yes, dear, that's

1148
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: what you run with. You just run, you just roll over. Yes, really, yes, honey,

1149
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: give me an example, Give me an example. Get an example. Um, um,

1150
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: you want to go to movies with me to watch

1151
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: chick Flick. Yes, dear, it's a good example. Yes, and

1152
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: you've been doing that for all all those years. Often yes,

1153
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: often on yes, m hm, we have a friend UM

1154
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: named Randy who I think that I don't know if

1155
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: he made it up, but his thing was for his marriage.

1156
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: Advice is uh, you might know. I'm got named Brandy Newberg.

1157
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: He has a hunting show. He he goes by um

1158
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: peace before justice, which when I apply it works really well.

1159
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: But it's very, very difficult for me to not pursue

1160
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: justice as well as peace, meaning you are going to

1161
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 1: pay for what you did, and it's hard to not

1162
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: It's really really difficult for me to bury the justice part.

1163
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: To make a long story short, I wish I could

1164
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: tell you what the old man told me, but I

1165
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: can't say it on the radio. I'll tell you quitting

1166
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: the shows over add something about bow Um. You've seen

1167
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: him in action. I've seen him in action. He's given

1168
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: me some good advice in the past about maintaining a

1169
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: happy marriage. One is uh, he is a very um

1170
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: organized person. He keeps a tight household. UM like a

1171
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: nice clean house. I think he is refurbishing in the

1172
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: living room right now. Very clean, very organized. And two

1173
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: is he cooks a lot for the family. I am

1174
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: the cooking house. He's the cooking house. That's an enormous advantage. Yeah,

1175
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: but I do THEE do that? That is I don't

1176
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: know if that really it hasn't helped you. Maybe you

1177
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: don't know how much it helps you. It has to

1178
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: help really. I mean they're cooking up a storm. Man.

1179
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: My stock price would just go through the roof if

1180
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: I could cook. So that that's an enormous part is Uh.

1181
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: I know his family. Uh. The other thing I would

1182
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: add about him is, um, he is very thoughtful around

1183
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: the details with his wife and just you know, remembering

1184
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: the important things. And he's always bringing stuff home, ETCETERA

1185
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: little over boy, more than you think. Yes, absolutely you have.

1186
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: You have to make it work. You have to make

1187
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: it work. Let me ask you about another thing I'm

1188
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: curious about, going from going from growing up dirt poor,

1189
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: as you said, so all of a sudden be coming

1190
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: through through professional sports contracts becoming like wealthy, that wealthy

1191
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: by anybody's standard financially. Was that was that hard having

1192
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: not seen like a model of how to manage that

1193
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: kind of stuff? Um? Was it hard to like visualize

1194
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: the money? You know? Something? I say it like this,

1195
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: you can't miss something that you never had. And um,

1196
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: my mother always told me when you get to the

1197
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: point where you start to look down your nose at

1198
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 1: your fellow man. It's gonna be the day or your downfall,

1199
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: the beginning of your downfall. And U SHO always show

1200
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: me to treat people like you want to be treated.

1201
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: So no, no, I have. My business manager is the

1202
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: same business manager that I had when I left over

1203
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: over thirty or five years ago. Same business manager, same

1204
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: financial people, the same attorney. You have a lot of

1205
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: loyalty to people, Well, well, if you do right, I'll

1206
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: put it to you like this. Once I let you

1207
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: in my little circle, it's up to you whether or

1208
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: not you stay in that circle or not. Period. And

1209
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: I've had some people that I had to exile from

1210
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: that circle, and so forth and so on and and

1211
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: and I don't look back. I don't look back from

1212
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: that because I'm I am the type of person that

1213
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: I will get out of my bed at three in

1214
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: the morning and drive a hundred miles to pick you

1215
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: up when your car breaks down on the road. That's

1216
01:11:55,160 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 1: just how I am. That's that's that's just me. Um m.

1217
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: If you need something, if I got it, you can

1218
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: have it. I wasn't born with a silver spoon in

1219
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: my mouth. The man upstairs just I think he blessed

1220
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: me a little bit more than others, and I think

1221
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: him for it, that's all. Yeah, mhm, right now, we're

1222
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: on turkey this morning, on turkeys some morning, and you

1223
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: were hunting with a crossbowl, hung with the crossbow because

1224
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: you injured your or harbor an old injury. Yes, but

1225
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: I had shoulder replacement surgery. It'll be two two years.

1226
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: Shoulder replacement slash, rotatory rotator cuff reconstruction, same morning. Yeah,

1227
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,799
Speaker 1: is that a residual effect of your That's not football,

1228
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 1: that's a baseball injury. I do better ball Dion Sander's

1229
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: head and dislocated my shoulder. This is a night the

1230
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: Kansas City Roles played the New York Yankees in Yankee Stadium.

1231
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: And uh, this was after This was after my third bat.

1232
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: This was after my third consecutive home run. That night,

1233
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 1: I hit three home runs and had seven r b

1234
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: I s went to the outfield dove at a ball,

1235
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: Dion Sander said, which I got my butt above my head,

1236
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: which is a no no in baseball when you dive

1237
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: at the ball. But it was a low screamer. Don't

1238
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: get your butt above your head. Ye don't die at

1239
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: an angle down. You always die with your butt. Lord,

1240
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: than you're so your tor soo can hit first and

1241
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 1: you because when you die at the ground head first,

1242
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: this party is gonna hit the ground first. And that's

1243
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,839
Speaker 1: what happened. This hit first. That's okay at this shoulder

1244
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: and I left the game deon. Sandra's got a triple

1245
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: out of it. How when you wake up with the

1246
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: morning with your hip shoulder, like, how much of the

1247
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: day is sort of a physical reminder of none really none,

1248
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: none period. I I like the quality of life that

1249
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: I get, so I'm so I am willing to put

1250
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: forth the effort to do that, as far as rehab,

1251
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: as far as therapy. I have a wonderful life and

1252
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have an artificial hip, artificial shoulder slow

1253
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: me down. Now some mornings I'll wake up. But I

1254
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: laugh when people look at me and say bowl you

1255
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: like you can still play football? In my saying that, man,

1256
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: I pulled a muscle lift in the toilet seat this morning.

1257
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: Anything about playing or a baseball or anything that I'm

1258
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: looking forward to, golf, fishing, driving my old cars, drive

1259
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 1: my motorcycle. If my wife led to me and and

1260
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: so looking to on. So that's what I look forward to.

1261
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: Last thing and then then whatever else you want to

1262
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: If you want anything else you want to get into.

1263
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: Tell people, but all the different sorts of businesses you're

1264
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:19,480
Speaker 1: involved in. Though we're not just laying no, I'm I'm

1265
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: I still have that hyper active persona that I had

1266
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. Um. If I'm idle, I'm

1267
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: usually getting in trouble. So UM. I have my marketing

1268
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: company which is called both Jackson Enterprises. I have both

1269
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 1: Jackson's signature Foods, which I have a line of I

1270
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: have my own line of steaks, my on line of burgers,

1271
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: my own line of seafood, and they're in retail in

1272
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: food service around the country. UM. I have my line

1273
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Speaker 1: of sports Complexes Complex and Lamont, Illinois called both Jackson

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01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: Elite Sports and uh Lamont Illinois, another one in Hill.

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01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: You're Ohio, right outside of Ohio state, right outside of Columbus,

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01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: And I'm getting ready to break ground on my third

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01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 1: facility and Displaines, Illinois, not too far from the O'Hara Airport.

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01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: I got that going on. I'm on the national speaking tour.

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: I've been on the national speaking speaking tour for about

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01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: a little over twenty six years. Um, go around the

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01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: country speaking touring. And I got my hand in about

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01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: four or five different other business interests right now, that's

1283
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: on the that's on the burner. So I keep myself

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01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:43,959
Speaker 1: pretty busy. Yeah, And this is only the second podcast

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01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: that I've done in my life. Which one was better?

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01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: Which one was better? I don't know. I gotta wait

1287
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: till this is over. Good answer. You know, I would

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01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 1: add something because I know bow Uh from the food

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01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: side of his business. Um. You know, very well respected,

1290
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: very ethical businessman. Um. You talked about loyalty. Um, he

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01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: has a lot of partners that he's had for a

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01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: long time. He also, it should be noted that he

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01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: has a very big charitable Yeah. I forgot to mention. Yeah,

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01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: that is something that is very near and dear to

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01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: his heart. So maybe you could take a second to

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01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: talk about that. Yes, I'm glad you, thank you, Matt

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01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,879
Speaker 1: for a moment. I have a couple of charities that

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01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: that that I have that I have taken on. The

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01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: first one that I did was after two thousand eleven

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01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: when the big tornadoes went through the state of Alabama

1301
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: and the loss of life was almost four people across

1302
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: the state. The Tornado state on the ground from the

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01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: Mississippi Alabama border to the Alabama Georgia state line. So

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01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: um um, I think it was a category for Tornado

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01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: state on the ground uh F four tornado F five,

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01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 1: which is the strongest that they can get. And when

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01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: it was over the aftermath, it left over three d

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01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 1: and seven seven Alabamians dead from that and um. During

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01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl of that year, I called the governor

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01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: at halftime and we talked the whole halftime because I

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01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: told him that I wanted to do something to help

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01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: give back to my state. I said I, I said,

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01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: I need to do something. I said, I just don't

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01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: feel right unless I do something, and I need your help.

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01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: And the governor got on board with it, and I

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01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: did a charity bike ride, bicycle ride colch to state

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01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 1: and I called people like Trek Bicycles, who is one

1318
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 1: of the leading bicycle manufacturers in the world, and the

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01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: owner he came on board. I called the owner of Nike,

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01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: he came on board. I called the executives of Coca Cola,

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01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: they came on board. I called owners of different come

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01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:05,839
Speaker 1: and these big, big Communications out of Birmingham Track Travel,

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01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: which is a team that put on all of the

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01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: stuff for the professional riders for a track, bicycles for

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01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: the Tour de France and all their big rides. So

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01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: I got all these people and companies involved. In the

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01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 1: first year in two thousand and twelve, we rode across

1328
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: the state in five days and every day we covered

1329
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: from anywhere from fifty to seventy per day and everyone

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01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: I wrote every day and we had everybody. We had

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01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: a ton of celebrities come in. We had Ken Griffi Jr.

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01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen, Lance Armstrong, you name it. We had a

1333
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: Peek a Boo Street, We had celebrities, We had paraplegic

1334
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: um athlete, Formula one race car drivers to come in

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01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 1: to ride with us. We have a couple that have

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01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: come in for the past two or three years from

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01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: England to ride in the ride because they saw it

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01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: on online. That was the first year we did five

1339
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: days and now we've gotten it down to one day.

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01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: It's on a Saturday on the campus of Auburn. We

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01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: have two rides that morning. One starts at six am,

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01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: which is a sixty mile ride, and we have a

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01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: lot in itself out every year and the second ride

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01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: starts at ten am and it's a twenty mile ride

1345
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: because we have riders from five years old to eight

1346
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: five years old. How much month do you guys raised

1347
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: that first year we raised a little over three dollars

1348
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: and within eight years but we raised a couple of

1349
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: million dollars and all of that money goes to build

1350
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 1: community tornado shelters across the state and to put tornado

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01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: warning systems in rural areas where there aren't any. And

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01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: um we've helped establish at least at least seventy to

1353
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: eighty community tornado shelters around the world around the state.

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01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: And those are for like this rural community here, attorney

1355
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: comes to here. Everybody that lives within a two or

1356
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: three mile radios can get in the storm shelter and

1357
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: get out of the way of that storm. I'd say

1358
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: I have a model is that Mother Nature is undefeated.

1359
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: She's undefeated. You can't fight her. The only thing you

1360
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: can do is get the hell out of her way.

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01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: And by constructing these shelter staffs what we do, and

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01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: we've been very successful at it UM. I have another

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01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 1: charity for the alumni of my university where we raise

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01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: money for different charities of the university that I put

1365
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: on that East Lake Country Club. I have a charity

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01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: in Chicago that's called both Jackson's Give Me a Chance

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01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 1: Foundation where we um where the foundation it benefits inner

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01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: city us. We want the inner city use to learn

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01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: sports through education, which means and in order to be

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01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,839
Speaker 1: a part of our group, you gotta make the grades.

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01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 1: In order to be a member at my sports complex,

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01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: you gotta make the grades. First. You gotta carry yourself

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01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: in a manner in which which is proper to be

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01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: a part of my group. We have rap sessions. We

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01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: have this We teach kids from the inside out not

1376
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 1: only to how to be an athlete, but also how

1377
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: to be a respectable teenager a young adult. And we've

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01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: sent over thirty kids to college in the past ten years.

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01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: So that's Those are some of the philanthropic things that

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Speaker 1: I do. You any questions, what's your go to hunt

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01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 1: every year? What's to hunt? Like? Is there a hunt

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01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: you don't miss? Uh? I just love hunting. I can

1383
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 1: hunt anything. I can hunt anything. Um um, do you

1384
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: prefer like big game over small game? Big game? Small game?

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01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter right now, A buddy and I we

1386
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: are planning a trip to the Yukon or four to

1387
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: hunt moose and probably to hunt moose and bear or

1388
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: moose and caribou, whichever comes first. UM take a week

1389
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: and a half two weeks ago up to do that

1390
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 1: and um, but around around the continental United States. I'll

1391
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,719
Speaker 1: hunt anything. So did your family like to eat wild game?

1392
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: If I don't tell him what it is, they don't ask.

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01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: Well my oldest son, Well, my kids will try anything,

1394
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 1: but my wife no, No, my kids will eat anything.

1395
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: You got to trick your wife or what you got

1396
01:23:51,720 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: a trigger? I don't trigger. Yes, is that wild game? Yes? Here,

1397
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 1: she's not having it. But no, no, I cook the

1398
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: only the only the only thing that's from the wild

1399
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: that she would eat is fish. Is fish. Yes, So,

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01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:19,879
Speaker 1: but everything else I have actually I have actually cooked everything.

1401
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: I've actually cooked everything from raccoon to you name it. Um.

1402
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: I had a buddy that I played with for the

1403
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: Raiders that I played with with the Raiders. He was

1404
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,839
Speaker 1: a receiver named Chris Woods. He came over for Christmas

1405
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 1: since my first year with the Raiders, and we invited

1406
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: him over for New Year's. He and his wife and

1407
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: his in his and his son. We invite him over

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01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: to our little little house in Auburn for for New

1409
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: Year's and down south for New Year's. It's a custom

1410
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: in the black community, especially the older community. Um Um,

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01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 1: you should you, but you cook or smoke a raccoon

1412
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: for New Year's and you have black eyed peas for

1413
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: good luck. And I learned that from my grandfather. And

1414
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: I went out week before harvested a raccoon down in

1415
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: my buddy's place, down at my coaches. My coaches are

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01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: rants adds far harvest a raccoon and clean it up

1417
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: real nice. I got the little smoker that that I

1418
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: got to where you got the fire in the water

1419
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: and the grilled put all my put apple juice, water,

1420
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 1: put all my fruits and everything in there and let

1421
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: it and kept water in that pan and cooked. And

1422
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 1: I took that raccoon. I seasoned it but potatoes, sweet potatoes,

1423
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: and the cavity, put a bunch of basketbles in it,

1424
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 1: wrapped with nylon cord, and smoked that raccoon on that

1425
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: smoker for about six hours, and kept that and kept

1426
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: and kept liquid in that pan which moisturized at meat,

1427
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: which made it tender. And when I when I served

1428
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: it to my buddy, who was never eating wal game

1429
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: before in this life, he thought it was roastby. He

1430
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 1: thought it was roastby. And my wife looked at him

1431
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: bed because the first thing that he said, please tell

1432
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 1: me what I'm eating, because my wife was looking at

1433
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: him like, if you knew what you were eating, you

1434
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: would be eating. And he was sitting there eating that

1435
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: black eyed peas had colored greens and corn bread and

1436
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 1: stuffing and all of that, and he said, and my

1437
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: wife told him what he was eating. And he looked

1438
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: at me and said, you got me eating what? Because

1439
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: he's countries a corn bread sandwich. And he said it's good,

1440
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: and he ate more. And he and I sit there

1441
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 1: in the eight three quarters that racoon for New Year's

1442
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: so so so. And but people that that haven't tried

1443
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 1: something and they automatically dislike it, they shouldn't. They should

1444
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: try it first. I said, always try it before you

1445
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 1: always try it before. You say. You cook a lot

1446
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 1: of traditional Southern black dishes. I cook so food, I

1447
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: cook Italian food, I cook you name it, I cook it. Yeah,

1448
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: do you still keep that tradition? New Year's tradition now. Yeah,

1449
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 1: Actually I am at war with well, I used to

1450
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: be at war. I used to think of raccoon right

1451
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: out of mine, right out of my backyard because I

1452
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: have this show. Yeah in the gated community. Um um.

1453
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: I have a dought that have two fons behind my

1454
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: house every year, and during the winner, I kind of

1455
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: feel sorry for him. So I put corn out for

1456
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 1: and they come up and eat, But the raccoons come

1457
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: up and run them off, and they all eat five

1458
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 1: gallons of corn in one night. There's just that meaning,

1459
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: right coon. So I remedied that. So you did some

1460
01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 1: control work, pa, mm hmm, I got I got another

1461
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 1: question for you, and then let you get back to

1462
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: your turkey hunt. Unless these boys got your fun. You

1463
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: can have any follow up thoughts too, Do you okay

1464
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: the um? Is it still fun? Or have you grown

1465
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: tired of bo knows? Is it still fun? That's a

1466
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: money maker, man talking about a money maker. Yeah, that's

1467
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: a money maker because we like, you know, we're like, oh,

1468
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: bodos turkeys boos. That's a money maker. Yeah. So it's

1469
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: still music to your money maker. Yeah. Yeah, it's when

1470
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: I was on my laptop there earlier before we start

1471
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 1: this I was luskin over uh contract with boos and

1472
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: it that's a money maker. You better recognize that's great

1473
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: Matt guy. You guys got your follow up thoughts. No,

1474
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's got buddies that show up and they

1475
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,799
Speaker 1: don't have boats or they forget their glow officer or whatever.

1476
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 1: You know, it's a pleasure hunting with bowling, hunting, fishing

1477
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: because he's always got the right gear, shows up, ready

1478
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: for ready for game time. So I think that's worth recognizing.

1479
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: We've done We've had a lot of adventures together and uh,

1480
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: he's a fun guy to spend time with. Thanks for coming.

1481
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: See the reason he is complimented me because I drove

1482
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: him up here and Dodge, so it was like a

1483
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 1: two hours. It was like driving this daisy. I'm Hope

1484
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 1: and he's Daisy and he's just talking and talking and talk.

1485
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: He Uh he mentioned that you, um at times drove

1486
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 1: a little aggressively. Oh yeah, he drives fast. That would

1487
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 1: have been the word. Yeah. Yeah, it's a brand This

1488
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: is a brand new Dodge, uh comings turbo diesel. I

1489
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 1: barely got fifteen hundred miles on it. Let's see what

1490
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: the thing can do. Before I put a new chip

1491
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, so I'm just breaking into the end

1492
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 1: before I put the new chip in the big rexhault On,

1493
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: it can breathe better. That's all I got. I got

1494
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: any questions. I just want to say it's been a

1495
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: pleasure hunting with you so far. Thank you. I'm gonna

1496
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: try to get my style back tonight. Right now, how

1497
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 1: the mighty phones? Right now? Guy is over, He is over.

1498
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 1: He swung to miss eight times this morning. I did

1499
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 1: scare the hell out every turkey we have on the phone.

1500
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: You gotta give me that one. Then you got, you

1501
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: got the concluders. Any final thoughts bout do you want

1502
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: to wedge in there? Do you haven't got a chance

1503
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: to wedge in anything? Man? Oh? What? Oh? No? Live

1504
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 1: life to the fullest, be happy, and I always your

1505
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 1: commencement address. Team, Step outside your comfort zone, step outside

1506
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 1: your compat zone. Do something that you would not orinary.

1507
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 1: I tell people, do something nice for a stranger, do

1508
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 1: something nice for somebody that you don't know. Period. I've

1509
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 1: seen him do that multiple times, even in Spain. So

1510
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 1: he practices what he preaches. What's what's an example that

1511
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 1: you do to like completely just random like that? You're

1512
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: in Spain and you pick out a stranger, tell the

1513
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: story about we were in Spain and where we on

1514
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: our way to Portano or we had come back. No,

1515
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: we were on our way there. I think you're right

1516
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 1: where we This was the night before and we went

1517
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 1: out and we were on our way there, and we

1518
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: went by the local McDonald's there, which is a whole

1519
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: lot different than our McDonald's here, and there was a

1520
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: that was an elderly lady singal there and for some reason,

1521
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: she reminded me of my mother and she and she

1522
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: was just sitting there, and she had coffee and she

1523
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: was just sipping on her coffee, and she was just

1524
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,959
Speaker 1: sitting there. And I didn't know if she was homeless

1525
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 1: or what. So I didn't speak Spanish. But but Jose

1526
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: that was with the who was another McDonald's exact um.

1527
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 1: I was talking to him and I told him, but

1528
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 1: I said, there's something about that lady that's parting me.

1529
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: And I said, will you go over and ask her,

1530
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 1: um and just tell her and tell her that she

1531
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 1: reminds me of my mother and I would like to

1532
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 1: buy her her dinner for night. So he went over

1533
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,560
Speaker 1: and told her, and she said, oh oh, and in

1534
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 1: a very sweet voice, she told him in Spanish that

1535
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: she was waiting for her daughter and her daughter was late.

1536
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: Her daughter was late, and she had been sitting there

1537
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 1: for about forty five minutes. And UM, I said, well,

1538
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 1: I will buy you dinner. I will buy you and

1539
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 1: your daughter dinner. And I said, we will stay here

1540
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 1: until your daughter comes to make sure that you get dinner.

1541
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I think I think I gave her.

1542
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 1: I think I gave him a hundred dollars to give

1543
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 1: to her. So she and her daughter and by dinner.

1544
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 1: And it just reminded and I got emotional. I don't

1545
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 1: know if I'm in my old age, that I'm going

1546
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: through menopause or what, but I I'm serious. And and

1547
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 1: she reminded me a lot of my mother and this

1548
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 1: lady in Spain that that I'll probably never see you again,

1549
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 1: probably never meet again, older ladies like she was in

1550
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: her seventies. And I just I just bought her dinner,

1551
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 1: and she said thank you, and we got up in

1552
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 1: left with our daughter. Game. So it's it's just simple things.

1553
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 1: Some simple things you have to um if you have

1554
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: been blessed, it's only right for you to play it

1555
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 1: for play it forward to somebody. So that's life, thank you.

1556
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: That's the bubble that I live in. It's a big bubble.

1557
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 1: Now let's go harvest to Turkey guy. Thank you very much,

1558
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson. By going on the show,