WEBVTT - BREAKING POINT WITH DAVID ZERE - AUGUST 8, 2026

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody. I'm David Zier. You're watching Breaking Point on

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<v Speaker 1>Real America's Voice News. I got a terrific show for

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<v Speaker 1>you today. I got Don Newan with this incredible song

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<v Speaker 1>Extortion seventeen. We have Deborah Demi running in the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>third congressional district in Florida. I got Mike Brest, a

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<v Speaker 1>Pentagon reporter. I'm at the Pentagon with him and covered

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<v Speaker 1>Department of War events together. We went to Pete Hegseeth's

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<v Speaker 1>NATO Brussel's Defense ministerial about a month and a half ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a lot to talk about missile supplies, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in Ukraine and other and then I have

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<v Speaker 1>an energy update for you, what's going on nationwide along.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a midterm information, but I want to get right

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<v Speaker 1>to it. I want to bring in my good friend

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<v Speaker 1>Donna Fidusha is just a legend in the news business,

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<v Speaker 1>and her better half Don Newan cowboy logic. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the show, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>It means the world to me to be sharing this

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<v Speaker 2>screen with you. I have such respect and admiration for

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<v Speaker 2>the work you do. The world's a better place because

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<v Speaker 2>you're in it. David's her that's all I want to say. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>kudos to your mom.

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<v Speaker 1>That means a lot, means a lot. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell my mother she'll turn eighty four in January, still working.

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<v Speaker 1>But don thank you so much. So. I was virtually

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<v Speaker 1>at tears when I heard your new song, Extortion seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Really incredible. We're going to play about a minute or

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<v Speaker 1>two of the introduction in a moment, but can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about the song? Why did you write it?

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<v Speaker 1>And you've got an amazing voice, You're a very talented

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<v Speaker 1>singer and songwriter.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't. Hey, let me. I gotta be straightforward.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not sing. I do not sing. That is

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<v Speaker 2>not me singing. I will never be singing on any

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<v Speaker 2>my records ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so who's singing it?

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<v Speaker 2>I created that voice through Ai. That's an AI voice,

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<v Speaker 2>and it fools you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Tell us about the.

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<v Speaker 2>Song, time, Well, the song is designed to do one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>honor the fallen warriors that we lost in the single

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<v Speaker 2>incident that had the greatest number of lives lost in

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<v Speaker 2>the entire Afghanistan War, the greatest number of Navy seals

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<v Speaker 2>lost at any one time, and sadly very few people

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<v Speaker 2>know about it. And Thursday, this past Thursday, was the

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<v Speaker 2>fifteenth anniversary of this tragic, terrible situation that if we

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<v Speaker 2>have time, we'll get into. It's a total cover up

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<v Speaker 2>by the Department of Defense. It's reprehensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us talk about extortion. Was this because the rules

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<v Speaker 1>of engagement changed under Obama?

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<v Speaker 3>Were?

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<v Speaker 1>What were the factors surrounding this incident? And tell our

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<v Speaker 1>audience what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this mission? First of all, Extortion one seven is

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<v Speaker 2>a call sign. It's not a mission. It's a call

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<v Speaker 2>sign for that one Chinook helicopter that was taken down.

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<v Speaker 2>The mission was allegedly that we were going to send

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<v Speaker 2>these seals into the Tangi Valley in Afghanistan because as

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<v Speaker 2>a q r F, a quick reaction force to assist

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<v Speaker 2>rangers that were allegedly pinned down. The problem is rangers

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<v Speaker 2>weren't pinned down. This mission should have never happened. And

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is, if you move the clock back three months,

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<v Speaker 2>Osama bin Laden was killed, and shortly thereafter, the Obama

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<v Speaker 2>administration leaked to the New York Times and then the

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Post that it was sealed Team six Biden then

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<v Speaker 2>in his loose lip early dementia, mentioned Seal Team six

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<v Speaker 2>in a public event that was taking place. And when

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<v Speaker 2>that happened, Aaron Vaughan and all the other Seals that

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<v Speaker 2>had families contacted their families. They said, guys, get off

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<v Speaker 2>of social media, go dark. They've just put a target

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<v Speaker 2>on her back. Now ninety days later, yeah, Extortion one

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<v Speaker 2>to seven came out of the air.

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<v Speaker 1>So the families were upset, right because one about the

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<v Speaker 1>rules of engagement, but also the timing of the release

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<v Speaker 1>of the announcement that was sealed Team six maybe putting

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of Seal Team members in danger, Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that should have never taken place. You don't disclose

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<v Speaker 2>special ops anything. And there's Dave, there is so much

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with this. And I don't mean wrong by the

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<v Speaker 2>actions of our lost warriors. I mean wrong way up

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<v Speaker 2>the chain, all the way up to Mattis General Madis.

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<v Speaker 2>This thing is a cover up. There. I could go

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<v Speaker 2>on and on. Guys. There was a manifest that was

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<v Speaker 2>changed that was never updated. They had four Afghani nationals

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<v Speaker 2>come off of that airship before it took off. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>knows who the Afghani's were that got back on it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a black box that was never found, and

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<v Speaker 2>the excuses from Gary Reid, this shill of a human

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<v Speaker 2>being from the Department of Defense in a Jason Chaevitz

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<v Speaker 2>hearing that lasted only ninety minutes, by the way, went

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<v Speaker 2>from oh, the black box was lost when it entered

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<v Speaker 2>into a flood driven you know, a river. Well, first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, went in a river, it was a creek. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know from doing reporting that you can find black

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<v Speaker 2>boxes at the bottom of the damn ocean. So the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that that couldn't be found is a joke and

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<v Speaker 2>laughable and disgusting. Then he flips during the testimony and

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<v Speaker 2>says it was an analog ship. There wasn't even a

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<v Speaker 2>black box on it, to which the people that actually

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<v Speaker 2>built the ship in Georgia to send it over there said,

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<v Speaker 2>every one of them have black boxes on it. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a total cover ups. It's disgraceful, including Dave, this

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna flip you out. Man. On bigra Mare base,

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<v Speaker 2>they had a ceremony, the first ceremony on Bigramaire Bose.

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<v Speaker 2>They had an e mom that was presiding over part

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<v Speaker 2>of this ceremony and this gentleman said a prayer, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to paraphrase this over our fallen boy that

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<v Speaker 2>basically the Infidels would burn in a fire pit and

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<v Speaker 2>that the Muslims were once again victorious, and that his

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<v Speaker 2>prayer was translated. Billy and Karen Vaughan paid a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money and a lot of time to have that translated.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sickening thing is.

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<v Speaker 1>Our troops couldn't carry bibles with them in certain case.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you mentioned rules of engagement. Two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>we had Captain Joni Marquez on She was in the

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<v Speaker 2>C one thirty h gunship Eyes in the Sky. She

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<v Speaker 2>watched this whole thing go down. She they called in

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<v Speaker 2>support against what appeared to be three Taliban during four Taliban.

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<v Speaker 2>It had cylindrical objects and as an RPG, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were denied action.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that that is definitely true and just a

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<v Speaker 1>spectacular in a bad way. I wanted to let you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm going to be at the anniversary for the

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<v Speaker 1>UDT Museum in Fort Pace, Florida, Pierce, Florida this fall.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you know. Because they highlight the sailors and

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<v Speaker 1>special warfare, naval special warfare who were killed under that

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<v Speaker 1>call signed.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's very moving. What has the response been

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<v Speaker 1>to the song.

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<v Speaker 2>Real Good? I think a day or so ago we

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<v Speaker 2>hit number seven on the iTunes Country download charts. And

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing, ladies and Dave, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>much time. I don't have a clock in front of.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, so you would have me off with closer bay.

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<v Speaker 2>Donna and I decided that there's absolutely no way that

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<v Speaker 2>we could live with ourselves if we made any money

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<v Speaker 2>off the sale of this this single, So we decided

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<v Speaker 2>very early in the game that we would donate one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent of our royalties, not partial, partial, every penny

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<v Speaker 2>we make and this distribution deal with Real America's music

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<v Speaker 2>for this song is seventy years, Donna, Dave me, We're

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<v Speaker 2>not even going to be around when this thing expires

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<v Speaker 2>seventy years. Every penny that we make off of this

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<v Speaker 2>song is going to Operation three hundred, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>nonprofit organization that was founded in the honor of Aaron Vaughan,

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<v Speaker 2>one of those Navy Seals. The mission of that organization

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<v Speaker 2>is to provide mentorship and support to the families and

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<v Speaker 2>the children of fallen military They have camps. They do

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of phenomenal things. Go to opop three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dot org to find out more about it. But ladies

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<v Speaker 2>and gentlemen, you can make a difference by downloading this song.

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<v Speaker 2>Streaming does really nothing monetarily. You downloaded it's a buck

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine. You want to make a difference and you

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a part of remembering and supporting all

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<v Speaker 2>of these fallen warriors. Download this song, just hit that

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<v Speaker 2>QR code or go to iTunes search the name of

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<v Speaker 2>the song extortion one to seven. You can make a difference,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're giving it all back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know families gathered in Kansas City, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>on the fifteenth anniversary, which was two days ago, right Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>August sixth, and I believe that was in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>There is you know, the whole thing, the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>is so tragic, and you know, there's still a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of untanswered questions in addition to what we discussed. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll get into that. I'll have you back and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that, because the whole thing stinks.

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<v Speaker 2>In short, these men should still be alive. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and because of terrible decisions and what clearly indicates payback.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that AC one thirty should have been allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>fire the one O five howitzer on them and took

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<v Speaker 1>them out, you know or other. So very tragic. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Don new and give my regards to you wonderful wife, Donna.

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<v Speaker 1>We love her very much, Donna Fiducia. Watch Cowboy Logic.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on before me seven am Saturday mornings. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you got the Barn Party Saturday night. Ten seconds. How

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<v Speaker 1>do they watch it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Hey, Real America's Voice, Baby, that's the best place

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll keep it up your big talent. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>don see you later, brother, Thanks so all right, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>will be right back.

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<v Speaker 5>From Real America's Music. This is Extortion one seven by

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<v Speaker 5>Don Newan. Downloaded now say.

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<v Speaker 1>We're still.

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<v Speaker 2>Rackets where.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome back everybody. You're watching Breaking Point, Real America's

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<v Speaker 1>Voice News. I got terrific stuff ahead. I got Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Brest from the Washington Examiner on what's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon the Department of War, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in right now though, Deba Demi, she's running in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty third congressional district. She attended Saint Juliana and

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<v Speaker 1>then Cardinal Newman High School. DeBie. I love when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in your intro on your website about how

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<v Speaker 1>you know there were uniforms and race, color, ethnicity and

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<v Speaker 1>all that didn't matter because I went to Catholic school

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that aspect. And it wasn't a beauty

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<v Speaker 1>contest as far as who had money and who didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the best you could do there was where cool

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<v Speaker 4>socks or.

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<v Speaker 3>Something, you know, So there was I didn't think anything

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<v Speaker 3>of it back then.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just like you know, well, but down here

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<v Speaker 4>in Palm Beach.

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<v Speaker 3>County there's there's a lot of different so many dynamics.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got back from Palm Beach. I spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time down there. You're in a very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>district with incumbent democrat in there for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of issues. Tell us about the biggest issues

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<v Speaker 1>because they're building two hundred million dollar homes like chicklets

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<v Speaker 1>down there. There's so much commercial development, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's some negative aspects of that that affect you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and possibly your race and other can tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in Palm Beach.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's almost deja vous.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it is because twenty years ago, there was many

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<v Speaker 3>people aren't from here like myself. My family's been here

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<v Speaker 3>five generations. So twenty years ago that summer the FBI

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<v Speaker 3>came in. It was a big corruption We were nicknamed

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<v Speaker 3>Corruption County in.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>In two thousand and six and seven, the FBI had

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<v Speaker 3>to come in because of all the corruption with the

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<v Speaker 3>development going on so fast, and the mayor and all

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<v Speaker 3>the developers. It was a quid pro quo, pay the

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<v Speaker 3>mayor and you get in, you know, with bids in

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<v Speaker 3>the contract. It was that vulgar. So it was a

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<v Speaker 3>huge corruption situation. It lasted about almost three years. It

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<v Speaker 3>was really bad. And here it is again. And what's

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<v Speaker 3>amazing to me is it's mostly the same characters. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the same characters. Steven Ross, Lois Frankel is not the

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<v Speaker 3>mayor anymore. She moved on to Congress, Keith James, everybody

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<v Speaker 3>that was involved, they're still here.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's very frustrating.

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<v Speaker 3>For the voters now now because the development is out

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<v Speaker 3>of control and it's a little complicated why it's happening

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<v Speaker 3>so fast. But it is specifically regarding the Live Local Act,

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<v Speaker 3>which sounds sweet and everything, but it's not it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Destructive to Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>And I hope Miami Hillsboro they get their lawsuit going.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is intentionally destructive.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the building business for forty years, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can understand what you're saying to a degree, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen development go on the way I have

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<v Speaker 1>in Palm Beach, and every building on every corner is

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<v Speaker 1>either being raised or rebuilt the valuations. And that's great

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, a lot of people want to live there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful place. But you got one hundred miles

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<v Speaker 1>from Jensen Beach all the way to Miami of multimillion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar homes and that's great. And there's you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>jobs and tourism and they there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>industry in Florida. But what are your concerns about what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on specifically in Palm Beach a Democratic run county.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about that before we talk about Lois.

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<v Speaker 4>Well. She still pulls the puppet strings.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody knows that she walks into town hall, she walks

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<v Speaker 3>into the court house. Everyone backs up. The queen is

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<v Speaker 3>back in town. So I know the history, I know

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<v Speaker 3>the corruption. I'm not even going to get into the

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<v Speaker 3>very Christian aspect because we don't have time. But the

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<v Speaker 3>affordable housing and what you're referring to as the explosive

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<v Speaker 3>growth going on here in West Palm Beach, I'm telling

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<v Speaker 3>you it is a ticking time bomb. The way this

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<v Speaker 3>is structured, having to do with the text incentives foreign investor,

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<v Speaker 3>the developers not paying taxes for ten years.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how it's sold to the voters. Oh, we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to have so.

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<v Speaker 3>Much corporate taxes coming in.

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<v Speaker 4>No it's not.

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<v Speaker 6>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>There's bonds out there they don't have to pay for

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<v Speaker 3>ten years. I've been here long enough and many people

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<v Speaker 3>have seen this.

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<v Speaker 4>This happens every ten to twelve years.

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<v Speaker 3>But because of the Live Local Act, and DeSantis is

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<v Speaker 3>not aware of this, the property tax broad stroke exemption

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<v Speaker 3>that he signed off is going to make the situation worse.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Not part of the formula.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, you're the Republican candidate. You have a primary coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>you are challenged as of recently by somebody threw their

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<v Speaker 1>hat in the ring. Tell us about your primary.

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<v Speaker 3>So, before DeSantis did the reading districting this area, and

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<v Speaker 3>we worked so hard, especially after COVID, this district Palm

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<v Speaker 3>Beach County was only a D plus three and we

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<v Speaker 3>have a huge percentage of independence.

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<v Speaker 4>This was a flip target.

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<v Speaker 3>And then surprisingly they created this bizarre we call it

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<v Speaker 3>the Huge twenty two because it goes from Wellington all

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<v Speaker 3>the way to Naples. Huge and seventy thousand voters from

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<v Speaker 3>Sheila McCormick got shifted to us.

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<v Speaker 4>So Sally asked he made a deal with somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>That right, So you would think a Republican state Senate

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<v Speaker 1>and Assembly pretty much Republican judges, Republican governor, why would

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<v Speaker 1>they take a plus three district that was a beatable, winnable,

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<v Speaker 1>easier for the Republicans And now it's so such a

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<v Speaker 1>disadvantage for you going into this.

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<v Speaker 3>It is extremely it's difficult if the standard stays, meaning

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrats and the independents down in Sheila McCormick's district

0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.359
<v Speaker 3>that they're counting on to vote as they always have,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know Alce Hastings and Chila McCormick, that's been

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most corrupt corrupt district in America.

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<v Speaker 4>Al Sa Hastings.

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<v Speaker 3>So sadly, whatever deal they made in Tallahassee, if they

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<v Speaker 3>are betting on those voters in Chila McCormick's district will

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<v Speaker 3>vote the same. What we do have, very uniquely is

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<v Speaker 3>about thirty four independence.

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<v Speaker 4>Where are they going to go? So that's the key factor.

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<v Speaker 4>It was definitely you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think they'll go your way, I believe compared to.

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<v Speaker 3>The choice of Lois Frankel, she's come on far left,

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<v Speaker 3>ninety percent voting with Pelosi and Biden, pregnant people. She

0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.159
<v Speaker 3>pretends to be for women, she pretends to be for

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<v Speaker 3>the black community. She started now Planned Parenthood here in

0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:30.159
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy four, and she still speaks as if Roe v.

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<v Speaker 3>Wade was nineteen seventy four.

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<v Speaker 4>So we need the.

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<v Speaker 3>Black community, the Hispanics to.

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<v Speaker 4>Just try something different.

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<v Speaker 3>My god decades if you're not satisfied the old Reagan saying,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not satisfied.

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<v Speaker 4>With where you are now ten twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Mari Lago, Mari Lago's in your district, in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty third district there. We only have a minute left.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to just mention, you know, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, you know, John Anderson got a few percentage

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<v Speaker 1>points as an independent, but now the independence in the

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<v Speaker 1>ON affiliate is nationwide I was just saying in North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina that thirty nine percent of the vote now they

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<v Speaker 1>were four percent in nineteen seventy eight. Big impact. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the last word. We have one minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely, it is unique here in Palm Beach County.

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<v Speaker 3>We were very surprised that they made the decision. But

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<v Speaker 3>given the status of the country, given the status of

0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:39.800
<v Speaker 3>the county, I don't believe the bet that the Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>and the Independents are going to automatically go for a

0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:47.520
<v Speaker 3>far left extremist like Lois Frankel. And here in the

0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 3>mar A Lago district, Like I said, my family's been

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.399
<v Speaker 3>here a century. There's been a lot of changes, and

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:58.159
<v Speaker 3>we're tired of the Democrat corrupt local government, including Lois Frankle.

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<v Speaker 4>We're tired of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Your primary.

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<v Speaker 3>Early voting begins Saturday, and then the eighteenth is the voting.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, fine. I wanted to thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on, and so it's right around the corner

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you emerge after that, we'll have you

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<v Speaker 1>back on if you're in the general election. And I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate your insight because it's fascinating what's going on

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 1>in Palm Beach, and you know there's definitely some pitfalls

0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:33.080
<v Speaker 1>to what's going on. I agree, but thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much and great seeing you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie. All Right, everyone, when we come back, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of analysis Department of Energy. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a Pentagon update for you and other stay tuned. Will

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<v Speaker 1>be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>of War around the country. And there's so much going on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Trump has changed the landscape on energy, just

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<v Speaker 1>completely change the landscape. His executive orders on small modula

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear reactors and other and strategic energy dominance. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think people realize what's going on. You know, people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know people are moving away from America. First, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're moving away from Trump because he's not America first. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he is America first, and what's going on in Iran

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<v Speaker 1>is critical. Could you imagine if we waited a year

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<v Speaker 1>or two and did nothing about Iran and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, which Trump proved by bombing them along with

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<v Speaker 1>Israel last June, and then going forward in February twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighth on when I Ran launched a long range missile

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<v Speaker 1>that went two thousand plus miles, it proved that they

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<v Speaker 1>had them. So what were we going to do? Even

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't take out their nuclear and we did nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to wait two years? So they launched two

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<v Speaker 1>three four thousand ballistic missiles at a time into London

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<v Speaker 1>or Paris. You know. So I think Trump did the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing by going over there. Gas futures are down

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<v Speaker 1>about sixty seventy cents a gallon this week. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>if that takes. And you know, I understand, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone like Bloviate's, oh there's a formula for futures and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>The prices go up quick, they don't come down. So

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<v Speaker 1>gas future is a down sixty five cents as of

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<v Speaker 1>the taping of the show in like a week and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see prices coming down at the pump that much,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think there is gouging going on. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Trump makes a good point when he talks about the

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<v Speaker 1>oil companies and stuff, hammering them a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 1>he is totally changing the game with what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>here small modulate actors one to thirty megawatts. I took

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<v Speaker 1>a trip in February from California to Utah board to

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<v Speaker 1>C seventeen with the Energy Secretary and the Deputy Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>of War, Michael Duffy from California March half Force Space

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<v Speaker 1>to Hill F Force Space in Utah where they're testing

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<v Speaker 1>one of the valor Atomics SMR at the nearby San

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<v Speaker 1>Rafael Testing Laboratory. But there's like nine other companies pursuing

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. A bunch of them I believe have achieved

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<v Speaker 1>like critical mass. These htgers, these high temperature gas cold reactors,

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<v Speaker 1>they're safe. You know, you can't weaponize them. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about terrorism with them. They get better underground,

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<v Speaker 1>or I believe you could put in a compartment underground

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<v Speaker 1>you could power five thousand homes for every five megawatt reactor.

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<v Speaker 1>You could string them together, maybe you could put five

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<v Speaker 1>plus together. You could use them on the Moon for

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<v Speaker 1>a colony. I think that's the long term goal for

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<v Speaker 1>these things. There's so much going on with energy, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to, you know, go over a few

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>things because you know, renewables do play a role in

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with America's energy production. And one advantage

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<v Speaker 1>that could power sixty five million homes in America is geothermal.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm in the building business, geothermal was never affordable.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one hundred thousand. It was questionable as to

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<v Speaker 1>his efficacy. But the technology has gotten so much better now.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a great article out there America's surprising energy advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>how to beat China on clean power. You know, China's

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<v Speaker 1>invested twice as much as we had in renewables and

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<v Speaker 1>it's helped them. For us, we're only about twelve percent

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<v Speaker 1>effective rate for renewable energy. We don't have enough battery

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>storage that can supply a grid. It can only store

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<v Speaker 1>an hour or two a day of energy. They're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better with it though, it's really increasing, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's still not enough. You need natural gas, you need

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>fossil fuels, you need coal, and you need nuclear for

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 1>a stable electric grid. That's just the fact. But the

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<v Speaker 1>renewables do help. And the geothermal push in America I

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<v Speaker 1>think is really coming soon to a theater near you.

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<v Speaker 1>As well as these SMRs which Trump is pushing ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of schedule. You know, they weren't supposed to be in

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<v Speaker 1>effect till twenty thirty. I think we're going to start

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<v Speaker 1>seeing them in twenty twenty eight early twenty twenty nine,

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>working which could power you know, these supposed data centers

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. I think AI is biased, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>If you put in like crime statistics, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>illegals in America, it doesn't answer the question it's programmed

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<v Speaker 1>by liberals. I don't care what you say. It's programmed

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<v Speaker 1>by liberals, you know, because you know there's no hard numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but we have reports that they're well for

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred thousand felonies committed by illegals in Texas one

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>stayed alone from twenty eleven to twenty seventeen, including four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand murders. I think, you know, but there's no numbers

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<v Speaker 1>on illegals, and we know that, but they go further

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<v Speaker 1>when you look up in AI. I know I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this last week I'm media exposed. You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you look up how many illegals commit crimes in America,

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<v Speaker 1>they are like, oh, and also they commit less crimes

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<v Speaker 1>per capita than Americans, And it's like okay, And your

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>point is how many hundreds of thousand Americas have been

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<v Speaker 1>murdered or assaulted or maimed or raped or robbed from

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<v Speaker 1>or killed in dwee accidents. You know, we interviewed angel

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<v Speaker 1>families for years. I met Steve ronning Back I interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>down at the border in twenty nineteen. His son was

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<v Speaker 1>killed in a gas station and a robbery for no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Another angels facing on the street in California, and the

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<v Speaker 1>car came up on the front lawn legals with drag

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<v Speaker 1>racing and killed their like four year old kid. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a cost, There's a human cost. Never mind all

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the baby I was on the border in twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>with Ben Berkwam and three babies drowned, two or three

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>toddlers drowned in the Rio Grand that weekend. Democrats don't

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>care about human life. And Tom Mahoman always says, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hold any more dead babies out of

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<v Speaker 1>the back of trailers. But anyway, there's a great American

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<v Speaker 1>energy comeback. That's what the Department of Energy is calling it.

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<v Speaker 1>And on August seventeenth, Chris Wright will be a Midland,

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Texas to meet with oil and gas workers and industry leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>We're pumping out like thirteen to five fourteen million bowls

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<v Speaker 1>a day, something like that. This advantage that America has

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>an energy production, no country in the world can keep

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<v Speaker 1>up with us. They're opening up this new giant plant

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<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky, affordable access for AI plants to be built

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky. Landmark partnerships with private energy companies. Next Terra Brookfield,

0:30:56.120 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Big Rivers Electric Power. Jackson purchased any Cooperative our System

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<v Speaker 1>to develop the Department of Energies Paduca site. It is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a massive plant, one hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in private investment, one of the largest in Kentucky history.

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>It's going to create eight thousand construction jobs out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's so much going on here. So another big

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>thing is I'm going to get into the next block,

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<v Speaker 1>is you know this myth that we're out of weapons

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<v Speaker 1>and Iran and you know, how could that information even

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<v Speaker 1>come out? We're at war, and you're going to give

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>a signal that we're weak, and it's bill because the attack,

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>the attack ems those land to land missiles. We were

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>phasing them ount anyway, and I know there's been like

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand or so missiles fired, whether it's Pack three

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>or thads or Patriot missiles. But we have supplies and

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>we are armed, and as Hegseth always maintained, what we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing in Iran is only about ten percent of American

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<v Speaker 1>military might. I am not that worried about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the thatats. We have new technology too. We launch these

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 1>drones that can blow up in the in the air

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<v Speaker 1>and take out the electronics of drone swarms, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think our biggest fear is drone swarms overwhelming our fleets

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and other things. You know, if you're China sends ten

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand at a time, that could be a real problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And next week there's going to be a big demonstration

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<v Speaker 1>in North Dakota. I'm going to cover that either from

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<v Speaker 1>here or there, we'll see, but there we're testing drones.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the new way of warfare around the planet. It's

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<v Speaker 1>scary because the technology is changing, but the US is

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>still the leader in technology. Out there. But now the

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Chinese are building fake ships in the desert and they're

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>practicing on our ships, probably with drone swarms. Someone told

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>me a number they could make a hundred million drones

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>or something crazy like that. But I think that we've

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot going on, and Trump has really put

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<v Speaker 1>things pedal to the metal, foot to the floor on

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<v Speaker 1>not only energy but our defense, our nation's defense, the

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<v Speaker 1>best military, the highest tech in the world. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>the trip to Brussels with him to cover the NATO

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody, welcome back to Breaking Point. I'm David Zier.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a great guest with us right now, colleague

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 1>of mine inside the Pentagon covering what's going on at

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of War, Mike Brest and the Washington Examiner,

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<v Speaker 1>their defense reporter. Welcome to the show, Mic, Thank you

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>for having me. Yeah, anytime. We had an incredible trip

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>to Brussels for the NATO Defense Ministerial. That was a

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>real great opportunity to see what's going on. They really

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>rolled out the carpet for heg seth over there in Europe,

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>right they did.

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 6>But it was a quick trip.

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<v Speaker 1>It was quick, all right. We got some We got

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<v Speaker 1>some French fries, some freetz and a waffle and we

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>were home. But really important, right, because NATO has to

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 1>shift back more to the traditional sense of NATO one

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 1>point zero. Now it's NATO three point zero, getting away

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>from some of the other things that have distracted them

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:17.839
<v Speaker 1>more towards kind of like a Cold War posture, right, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think that's a fair way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I know that you've been covering a lot

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>of stuff for involving drones, and tell us what's the

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>latest going on in Ukraine. I know they did a

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of damage inside Russia, maybe taking out twenty percent

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>of their refining capacity, but Russia went on a campaign.

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 1>But it's is it turning in Ukraine's favor right now?

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<v Speaker 9>So I think it would be maybe a little bit

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 9>too far to say that the tides have turned too

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 9>heavily in Ukraine's favor, considering they're still very much outnumbered, outpowered,

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 9>and are really just trying to use in a and

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<v Speaker 9>technology to.

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<v Speaker 6>Stay in the fight.

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<v Speaker 9>And so while as you said, Ukraine and Russia as

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 9>well have made significant strides in drone technology and their

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 9>ability to use drones, we're still seeing Russia pommel Ukrainian

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 9>cities with ballistic missiles that Ukrainians don't have great ways

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:22.760
<v Speaker 9>to defend against because they're relying on generally the US

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 9>and the West for the exquisite air defense systems and

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 9>interceptors that are required to handle ballistic missiles.

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<v Speaker 6>So, while Ukraine does seem.

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<v Speaker 9>To be making an impact in Russia's oil and gas

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.879
<v Speaker 9>industry with these longer range drone attacks targeting those types

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 9>of facilities, it hasn't yet had an impact on stopping

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 9>Russia's ability to use ballistic missiles to target Ukrainian cities

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 9>that they really can't defend against.

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<v Speaker 1>Did Russia take out a drone factory inside the Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 9>There's been reporting that that's happened. It's unclear exactly, given

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 9>we're so far away and both sides neither side likes

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<v Speaker 9>to publicly talk about their losses but boast very heavily

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:06.320
<v Speaker 9>about their victories.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, So there's a lot of narratives going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's it's despicable that you know, there's

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>information leaking out about our status, how many missiles we

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>have left and stuff. You know, we're in a war,

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and you know it kind of gives us. We lose

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 1>leverage at the negotiating table when things like this come out.

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<v Speaker 1>Every article you see is a hit piece on Pete

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 1>hag Seth and stuff. What's the real story going on

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>with our pack threes which are intermediate you know, atmospheric interceptors,

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the thads which are upper atmosphere, and then the patriot stocks.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the real story?

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<v Speaker 9>So I think the real story is that the US

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<v Speaker 9>has used a lot of these over the course of

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 9>the Yuran War. There's no disputing that, whether it's offensive

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 9>weapons or defensive weapons to keep troops safe. They've expended

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 9>significant amounts munitions over the last six months or so.

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<v Speaker 9>Not only that, but the Pentagon both under President Trump

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<v Speaker 9>before the Iran War and under President Biden talked about

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 9>expanding capacity for some of these systems, in part because

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.319
<v Speaker 9>they were thinking about a future conflict, potentially against a

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 9>peer adversary like China, and so to some extent, the

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 9>concerns about where the stockpiles were before this conflict were

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 9>already in the conversation. However, a lot of those conversations

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 9>have since been heightened or elevated given the expenditure of

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:34.919
<v Speaker 9>munitions during the Iran War.

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<v Speaker 6>And so, as you.

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 9>Said, the President and the Trump administration have maintained that

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 9>they have everything they need to carry out the President's

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 9>objectives in Iran. The question is, as is the case

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 9>after any conflict the US is involved in, there will

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 9>take time where they.

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:54.839
<v Speaker 6>Need to sustain and maintain their systems.

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 9>And it's in that time that they will need to

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 9>not only recover what they've viewed, but they have talked

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 9>about expanding the capacity two to three to four times,

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 9>depending on the specific system.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I see that, And there's a lot of

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>cooperation with the private sector and stuff we've been covering

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 1>regarding you know, quick turnaround and private public partnerships really important.

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I know I've read a report that they were going

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to triple the pack three capacity. But these things take

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a long time to develop, and you know, you could

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:30.320
<v Speaker 1>fire them quickly, but it could take a year or

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>two to replenish. And so there's a lot. But tell

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>us about do you know the latest on like counter

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>UAS systems. I was I saw one that may have

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 1>been employed and I ran that was like an air

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 1>burst and it jammed and it could take out a

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>drone swarm.

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 9>Is that reality, it's hard to tell about specific systems

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 9>of the US is using to defend troops in Iran

0:41:56.440 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 9>because those are closely guarded secrets. But broadly speaking, the

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 9>military is exploring several different ways to try and take down,

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.240
<v Speaker 9>as you said, not just one drone, but a drone swarm,

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 9>because they pose unique challenges and the US needs to

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 9>have a capability that is roughly the same cost, which

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:17.439
<v Speaker 9>is a big part of this conversation to defeat them.

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.399
<v Speaker 6>And so there are things that they are exploring with.

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<v Speaker 9>Like lasers or electronic warfare or GPS jamming, all of

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<v Speaker 9>which are ways that they could conceivably try and take

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<v Speaker 9>a drone down without using a kinetic force or kinetic option,

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<v Speaker 9>which is still a possibility, but there are other risks

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<v Speaker 9>associated with doing that, like falling debris or potentially missing

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<v Speaker 9>And so some of those conversations that we're having about

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<v Speaker 9>the way the war is being carried out in the

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<v Speaker 9>Middle East would be say applied differently if we're talking

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<v Speaker 9>about domestic attack, where they're domestic considerations like commercial airliners in.

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<v Speaker 6>The sky, where that could be a risk or concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially with like Golden Dome technology being worked on

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<v Speaker 1>as well, so my concern is, you know, is that

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<v Speaker 1>camp at Abury for the drone strike demonstration under the

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<v Speaker 1>you know the is this incredible industry that we have

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<v Speaker 1>of drone manufacturers. I mean I must have interviewed forty

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<v Speaker 1>or fifty that day and then again at other events

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<v Speaker 1>like spacecomm in Florida, and now they're doing this thing

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<v Speaker 1>in North Dakota. One concern I had because the technology

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<v Speaker 1>I saw, like the Orca. You know, you could take

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred of these at a time in a

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<v Speaker 1>container on a ship and you can hand launch them

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<v Speaker 1>off the side of the ship. They're the size of

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<v Speaker 1>like a pigeon on the radar signature. And what if

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<v Speaker 1>China did like five or ten thousand of these at

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<v Speaker 1>a time on a guided missile destroyer, an aircraft carry

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<v Speaker 1>a group. You know, are we vulnerable? Can we keep

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<v Speaker 1>up with that? And is it a reality that China

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<v Speaker 1>could do something like that, maybe launch two three thousand

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<v Speaker 1>drones at a time.

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<v Speaker 9>So to break up your question a little into two parts, sorry,

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<v Speaker 9>it's first on. First on just sort of what we're

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<v Speaker 9>seeing in terms of the threat from drones. I think

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<v Speaker 9>you're absolutely right. I interviewed Secretary Dan Driscoll, the Secretary

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<v Speaker 9>of the Army a couple months ago, and I asked

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<v Speaker 9>him what his biggest fear was regarding counter drone technology,

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<v Speaker 9>and he said that what keeps him up at night

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<v Speaker 9>is essentially any container, as you mentioned, could be retrofitted

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<v Speaker 9>with drones and anywhere in the world could be essentially

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<v Speaker 9>turned on, the roof of the container lifted and drones

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<v Speaker 9>could be launched. And so part of the concern is

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<v Speaker 9>just how close the drones could be to their intended target,

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<v Speaker 9>which would limit the amount of time the US would

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<v Speaker 9>have to stop such an attack. And so it also

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<v Speaker 9>comes into play when we think about like the Ukrainians

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<v Speaker 9>out Operation Spider Web from last year, where they snuck

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<v Speaker 9>drones on a truck into Russian territory, brought them near

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<v Speaker 9>a Russian military base or air force base, and then

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<v Speaker 9>use the drones to damage several so much.

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<v Speaker 6>More expensive exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>And so there have been concerns in the United States

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<v Speaker 9>over the last couple of months about unidentified drones over

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<v Speaker 9>military bases in the US and so while none of

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<v Speaker 9>those instances have turned out to be an actual attack

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<v Speaker 9>on a US base, the concept is there, and so

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<v Speaker 9>speaking to both current and former military officials.

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<v Speaker 6>They're concerned that there is.

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<v Speaker 9>The possibility of a large scale drone attack in the

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<v Speaker 9>United States, and the US is trying to.

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<v Speaker 6>Catch up with what the threat could look like.

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<v Speaker 9>But part of the conversation comes into play is, as

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<v Speaker 9>I said, having systems to defeat drones over densely populated

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<v Speaker 9>civilian in areas and to make sure that you aren't

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<v Speaker 9>unintentionally leading to civilian casualties.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, it's Trump's priority, and the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>War was priority to you know, they're doing these technological

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<v Speaker 1>experimentation the t Rex project around the country for technology readiness.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just really the focus. I mean, this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a drone warfare world very quickly. I'm concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about like a cruise ship, like a carnival cruise ship

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<v Speaker 1>or something, and you know, a container pulls up alongside

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<v Speaker 1>and one hundred drones come out and they each have

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred pound warheads and they could take out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a large portion of the ship as a terrorist attack.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really not that far fetched. We have less than

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. Mike breast Tell review is where they can

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<v Speaker 1>follow you and I'll give you the last word.

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<v Speaker 6>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 9>I think people can follow my work at the Washington

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<v Speaker 9>Examiners webs or follow me on Twitter at Mike BREASTDC.

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<v Speaker 9>But just to go to your last point, it is

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<v Speaker 9>important to recognize the drones can be cheaply produced, which

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<v Speaker 9>allows them to be an opportunity potentially for a terror

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<v Speaker 9>group as opposed to like a full country or large

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<v Speaker 9>scale military. Because of the cheapness of producing drones, any

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<v Speaker 9>group could really take that as an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of them are three D printed, coss

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<v Speaker 1>in ten thousand versus forty million for a fighter jet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just incredible what's going on in the

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<v Speaker 1>world is changing quickly. Mike. I always appreciate your insight.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great, you know, being with you, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you know we're our paths across. Hopefully there won't

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<v Speaker 1>be more war briefings because there'll be some type of

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<v Speaker 1>resolution here in the Gulf. But let's see Thank you again.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for having me all right, Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for watching Breaking Point. We'll see you next week.