Speaker 1: Hello everybody. I'm David Zier. You're watching Breaking Point on
Speaker 1: Real America's Voice News. I got a terrific show for
Speaker 1: you today. I got Don Newan with this incredible song
Speaker 1: Extortion seventeen. We have Deborah Demi running in the twenty
Speaker 1: third congressional district in Florida. I got Mike Brest, a
Speaker 1: Pentagon reporter. I'm at the Pentagon with him and covered
Speaker 1: Department of War events together. We went to Pete Hegseeth's
Speaker 1: NATO Brussel's Defense ministerial about a month and a half ago.
Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about missile supplies, what's
Speaker 1: going on in Ukraine and other and then I have
Speaker 1: an energy update for you, what's going on nationwide along.
Speaker 1: It's a midterm information, but I want to get right
Speaker 1: to it. I want to bring in my good friend
Speaker 1: Donna Fidusha is just a legend in the news business,
Speaker 1: and her better half Don Newan cowboy logic. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the show, sir.
Speaker 2: It means the world to me to be sharing this
Speaker 2: screen with you. I have such respect and admiration for
Speaker 2: the work you do. The world's a better place because
Speaker 2: you're in it. David's her that's all I want to say. Wow,
Speaker 2: kudos to your mom.
Speaker 1: That means a lot, means a lot. I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell my mother she'll turn eighty four in January, still working.
Speaker 1: But don thank you so much. So. I was virtually
Speaker 1: at tears when I heard your new song, Extortion seventeen.
Speaker 1: Really incredible. We're going to play about a minute or
Speaker 1: two of the introduction in a moment, but can you
Speaker 1: tell me about the song? Why did you write it?
Speaker 1: And you've got an amazing voice, You're a very talented
Speaker 1: singer and songwriter.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't. Hey, let me. I gotta be straightforward.
Speaker 2: I do not sing. I do not sing. That is
Speaker 2: not me singing. I will never be singing on any
Speaker 2: my records ever.
Speaker 1: Okay, so who's singing it?
Speaker 2: I created that voice through Ai. That's an AI voice,
Speaker 2: and it fools you.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Tell us about the.
Speaker 2: Song, time, Well, the song is designed to do one thing,
Speaker 2: honor the fallen warriors that we lost in the single
Speaker 2: incident that had the greatest number of lives lost in
Speaker 2: the entire Afghanistan War, the greatest number of Navy seals
Speaker 2: lost at any one time, and sadly very few people
Speaker 2: know about it. And Thursday, this past Thursday, was the
Speaker 2: fifteenth anniversary of this tragic, terrible situation that if we
Speaker 2: have time, we'll get into. It's a total cover up
Speaker 2: by the Department of Defense. It's reprehensive.
Speaker 1: Let us talk about extortion. Was this because the rules
Speaker 1: of engagement changed under Obama?
Speaker 3: Were?
Speaker 1: What were the factors surrounding this incident? And tell our
Speaker 1: audience what happened?
Speaker 2: Okay, this mission? First of all, Extortion one seven is
Speaker 2: a call sign. It's not a mission. It's a call
Speaker 2: sign for that one Chinook helicopter that was taken down.
Speaker 2: The mission was allegedly that we were going to send
Speaker 2: these seals into the Tangi Valley in Afghanistan because as
Speaker 2: a q r F, a quick reaction force to assist
Speaker 2: rangers that were allegedly pinned down. The problem is rangers
Speaker 2: weren't pinned down. This mission should have never happened. And
Speaker 2: the thing is, if you move the clock back three months,
Speaker 2: Osama bin Laden was killed, and shortly thereafter, the Obama
Speaker 2: administration leaked to the New York Times and then the
Speaker 2: Washington Post that it was sealed Team six Biden then
Speaker 2: in his loose lip early dementia, mentioned Seal Team six
Speaker 2: in a public event that was taking place. And when
Speaker 2: that happened, Aaron Vaughan and all the other Seals that
Speaker 2: had families contacted their families. They said, guys, get off
Speaker 2: of social media, go dark. They've just put a target
Speaker 2: on her back. Now ninety days later, yeah, Extortion one
Speaker 2: to seven came out of the air.
Speaker 1: So the families were upset, right because one about the
Speaker 1: rules of engagement, but also the timing of the release
Speaker 1: of the announcement that was sealed Team six maybe putting
Speaker 1: the lives of Seal Team members in danger, Is that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that should have never taken place. You don't disclose
Speaker 2: special ops anything. And there's Dave, there is so much
Speaker 2: wrong with this. And I don't mean wrong by the
Speaker 2: actions of our lost warriors. I mean wrong way up
Speaker 2: the chain, all the way up to Mattis General Madis.
Speaker 2: This thing is a cover up. There. I could go
Speaker 2: on and on. Guys. There was a manifest that was
Speaker 2: changed that was never updated. They had four Afghani nationals
Speaker 2: come off of that airship before it took off. Nobody
Speaker 2: knows who the Afghani's were that got back on it.
Speaker 2: There was a black box that was never found, and
Speaker 2: the excuses from Gary Reid, this shill of a human
Speaker 2: being from the Department of Defense in a Jason Chaevitz
Speaker 2: hearing that lasted only ninety minutes, by the way, went
Speaker 2: from oh, the black box was lost when it entered
Speaker 2: into a flood driven you know, a river. Well, first
Speaker 2: of all, went in a river, it was a creek. Secondly,
Speaker 2: you know from doing reporting that you can find black
Speaker 2: boxes at the bottom of the damn ocean. So the
Speaker 2: fact that that couldn't be found is a joke and
Speaker 2: laughable and disgusting. Then he flips during the testimony and
Speaker 2: says it was an analog ship. There wasn't even a
Speaker 2: black box on it, to which the people that actually
Speaker 2: built the ship in Georgia to send it over there said,
Speaker 2: every one of them have black boxes on it. This
Speaker 2: is a total cover ups. It's disgraceful, including Dave, this
Speaker 2: is gonna flip you out. Man. On bigra Mare base,
Speaker 2: they had a ceremony, the first ceremony on Bigramaire Bose.
Speaker 2: They had an e mom that was presiding over part
Speaker 2: of this ceremony and this gentleman said a prayer, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to paraphrase this over our fallen boy that
Speaker 2: basically the Infidels would burn in a fire pit and
Speaker 2: that the Muslims were once again victorious, and that his
Speaker 2: prayer was translated. Billy and Karen Vaughan paid a lot
Speaker 2: of money and a lot of time to have that translated.
Speaker 2: It's sickening thing is.
Speaker 1: Our troops couldn't carry bibles with them in certain case.
Speaker 2: Well, and you mentioned rules of engagement. Two weeks ago,
Speaker 2: we had Captain Joni Marquez on She was in the
Speaker 2: C one thirty h gunship Eyes in the Sky. She
Speaker 2: watched this whole thing go down. She they called in
Speaker 2: support against what appeared to be three Taliban during four Taliban.
Speaker 2: It had cylindrical objects and as an RPG, and they
Speaker 2: were denied action.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that that is definitely true and just a
Speaker 1: spectacular in a bad way. I wanted to let you know,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to be at the anniversary for the
Speaker 1: UDT Museum in Fort Pace, Florida, Pierce, Florida this fall.
Speaker 1: I'll let you know. Because they highlight the sailors and
Speaker 1: special warfare, naval special warfare who were killed under that
Speaker 1: call signed.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: You know, it's very moving. What has the response been
Speaker 1: to the song.
Speaker 2: Real Good? I think a day or so ago we
Speaker 2: hit number seven on the iTunes Country download charts. And
Speaker 2: here's the thing, ladies and Dave, I don't know how
Speaker 2: much time. I don't have a clock in front of.
Speaker 1: Me, so you would have me off with closer bay.
Speaker 2: Donna and I decided that there's absolutely no way that
Speaker 2: we could live with ourselves if we made any money
Speaker 2: off the sale of this this single, So we decided
Speaker 2: very early in the game that we would donate one
Speaker 2: hundred percent of our royalties, not partial, partial, every penny
Speaker 2: we make and this distribution deal with Real America's music
Speaker 2: for this song is seventy years, Donna, Dave me, We're
Speaker 2: not even going to be around when this thing expires
Speaker 2: seventy years. Every penny that we make off of this
Speaker 2: song is going to Operation three hundred, which is a
Speaker 2: nonprofit organization that was founded in the honor of Aaron Vaughan,
Speaker 2: one of those Navy Seals. The mission of that organization
Speaker 2: is to provide mentorship and support to the families and
Speaker 2: the children of fallen military They have camps. They do
Speaker 2: all kinds of phenomenal things. Go to opop three hundred
Speaker 2: dot org to find out more about it. But ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, you can make a difference by downloading this song.
Speaker 2: Streaming does really nothing monetarily. You downloaded it's a buck
Speaker 2: twenty nine. You want to make a difference and you
Speaker 2: want to be a part of remembering and supporting all
Speaker 2: of these fallen warriors. Download this song, just hit that
Speaker 2: QR code or go to iTunes search the name of
Speaker 2: the song extortion one to seven. You can make a difference,
Speaker 2: and we're giving it all back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know families gathered in Kansas City, I believe
Speaker 1: on the fifteenth anniversary, which was two days ago, right Thursday,
Speaker 1: August sixth, and I believe that was in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: There is you know, the whole thing, the whole thing
Speaker 1: is so tragic, and you know, there's still a lot
Speaker 1: of untanswered questions in addition to what we discussed. So
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get into that. I'll have you back and
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that, because the whole thing stinks.
Speaker 2: In short, these men should still be alive. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and because of terrible decisions and what clearly indicates payback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that AC one thirty should have been allowed to
Speaker 1: fire the one O five howitzer on them and took
Speaker 1: them out, you know or other. So very tragic. Listen,
Speaker 1: Don new and give my regards to you wonderful wife, Donna.
Speaker 1: We love her very much, Donna Fiducia. Watch Cowboy Logic.
Speaker 1: You're on before me seven am Saturday mornings. And then
Speaker 1: you got the Barn Party Saturday night. Ten seconds. How
Speaker 1: do they watch it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, Real America's Voice, Baby, that's the best place
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll keep it up your big talent. Thank you,
Speaker 1: don see you later, brother, Thanks so all right, everybody
Speaker 1: will be right back.
Speaker 5: From Real America's Music. This is Extortion one seven by
Speaker 5: Don Newan. Downloaded now say.
Speaker 1: We're still.
Speaker 2: Rackets where.
Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back everybody. You're watching Breaking Point, Real America's
Speaker 1: Voice News. I got terrific stuff ahead. I got Mike
Speaker 1: Brest from the Washington Examiner on what's going on in
Speaker 1: the Pentagon the Department of War, and I want to
Speaker 1: bring in right now though, Deba Demi, she's running in
Speaker 1: the twenty third congressional district. She attended Saint Juliana and
Speaker 1: then Cardinal Newman High School. DeBie. I love when you
Speaker 1: talk about in your intro on your website about how
Speaker 1: you know there were uniforms and race, color, ethnicity and
Speaker 1: all that didn't matter because I went to Catholic school
Speaker 1: and I love that aspect. And it wasn't a beauty
Speaker 1: contest as far as who had money and who didn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the best you could do there was where cool
Speaker 4: socks or.
Speaker 3: Something, you know, So there was I didn't think anything
Speaker 3: of it back then.
Speaker 4: It was just like you know, well, but down here
Speaker 4: in Palm Beach.
Speaker 3: County there's there's a lot of different so many dynamics.
Speaker 1: I just got back from Palm Beach. I spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time down there. You're in a very interesting
Speaker 1: district with incumbent democrat in there for a long time.
Speaker 1: A lot of issues. Tell us about the biggest issues
Speaker 1: because they're building two hundred million dollar homes like chicklets
Speaker 1: down there. There's so much commercial development, and I know
Speaker 1: there's some negative aspects of that that affect you know,
Speaker 1: and possibly your race and other can tell us about
Speaker 1: what's going on in Palm Beach.
Speaker 4: Well, it's almost deja vous.
Speaker 3: Well it is because twenty years ago, there was many
Speaker 3: people aren't from here like myself. My family's been here
Speaker 3: five generations. So twenty years ago that summer the FBI
Speaker 3: came in. It was a big corruption We were nicknamed
Speaker 3: Corruption County in.
Speaker 4: Twenty years ago.
Speaker 3: In two thousand and six and seven, the FBI had
Speaker 3: to come in because of all the corruption with the
Speaker 3: development going on so fast, and the mayor and all
Speaker 3: the developers. It was a quid pro quo, pay the
Speaker 3: mayor and you get in, you know, with bids in
Speaker 3: the contract. It was that vulgar. So it was a
Speaker 3: huge corruption situation. It lasted about almost three years. It
Speaker 3: was really bad. And here it is again. And what's
Speaker 3: amazing to me is it's mostly the same characters. It's
Speaker 3: the same characters. Steven Ross, Lois Frankel is not the
Speaker 3: mayor anymore. She moved on to Congress, Keith James, everybody
Speaker 3: that was involved, they're still here.
Speaker 4: So it's very frustrating.
Speaker 3: For the voters now now because the development is out
Speaker 3: of control and it's a little complicated why it's happening
Speaker 3: so fast. But it is specifically regarding the Live Local Act,
Speaker 3: which sounds sweet and everything, but it's not it is.
Speaker 4: Destructive to Florida.
Speaker 3: And I hope Miami Hillsboro they get their lawsuit going.
Speaker 4: So this is intentionally destructive.
Speaker 1: I'm in the building business for forty years, and I
Speaker 1: can understand what you're saying to a degree, because you know,
Speaker 1: I've never seen development go on the way I have
Speaker 1: in Palm Beach, and every building on every corner is
Speaker 1: either being raised or rebuilt the valuations. And that's great
Speaker 1: that you know, a lot of people want to live there.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful place. But you got one hundred miles
Speaker 1: from Jensen Beach all the way to Miami of multimillion
Speaker 1: dollar homes and that's great. And there's you know, some
Speaker 1: jobs and tourism and they there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: industry in Florida. But what are your concerns about what's
Speaker 1: going on specifically in Palm Beach a Democratic run county.
Speaker 1: Tell us about that before we talk about Lois.
Speaker 4: Well. She still pulls the puppet strings.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows that she walks into town hall, she walks
Speaker 3: into the court house. Everyone backs up. The queen is
Speaker 3: back in town. So I know the history, I know
Speaker 3: the corruption. I'm not even going to get into the
Speaker 3: very Christian aspect because we don't have time. But the
Speaker 3: affordable housing and what you're referring to as the explosive
Speaker 3: growth going on here in West Palm Beach, I'm telling
Speaker 3: you it is a ticking time bomb. The way this
Speaker 3: is structured, having to do with the text incentives foreign investor,
Speaker 3: the developers not paying taxes for ten years.
Speaker 4: That's how it's sold to the voters. Oh, we're going
Speaker 4: to have so.
Speaker 3: Much corporate taxes coming in.
Speaker 4: No it's not.
Speaker 6: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: There's bonds out there they don't have to pay for
Speaker 3: ten years. I've been here long enough and many people
Speaker 3: have seen this.
Speaker 4: This happens every ten to twelve years.
Speaker 3: But because of the Live Local Act, and DeSantis is
Speaker 3: not aware of this, the property tax broad stroke exemption
Speaker 3: that he signed off is going to make the situation worse.
Speaker 1: So you're that's.
Speaker 4: Not part of the formula.
Speaker 1: Sure, you're the Republican candidate. You have a primary coming up,
Speaker 1: you are challenged as of recently by somebody threw their
Speaker 1: hat in the ring. Tell us about your primary.
Speaker 3: So, before DeSantis did the reading districting this area, and
Speaker 3: we worked so hard, especially after COVID, this district Palm
Speaker 3: Beach County was only a D plus three and we
Speaker 3: have a huge percentage of independence.
Speaker 4: This was a flip target.
Speaker 3: And then surprisingly they created this bizarre we call it
Speaker 3: the Huge twenty two because it goes from Wellington all
Speaker 3: the way to Naples. Huge and seventy thousand voters from
Speaker 3: Sheila McCormick got shifted to us.
Speaker 4: So Sally asked he made a deal with somebody.
Speaker 1: That right, So you would think a Republican state Senate
Speaker 1: and Assembly pretty much Republican judges, Republican governor, why would
Speaker 1: they take a plus three district that was a beatable, winnable,
Speaker 1: easier for the Republicans And now it's so such a
Speaker 1: disadvantage for you going into this.
Speaker 3: It is extremely it's difficult if the standard stays, meaning
Speaker 3: the Democrats and the independents down in Sheila McCormick's district
Speaker 3: that they're counting on to vote as they always have,
Speaker 3: and you know Alce Hastings and Chila McCormick, that's been
Speaker 3: one of the most corrupt corrupt district in America.
Speaker 4: Al Sa Hastings.
Speaker 3: So sadly, whatever deal they made in Tallahassee, if they
Speaker 3: are betting on those voters in Chila McCormick's district will
Speaker 3: vote the same. What we do have, very uniquely is
Speaker 3: about thirty four independence.
Speaker 4: Where are they going to go? So that's the key factor.
Speaker 4: It was definitely you.
Speaker 1: Think they'll go your way, I believe compared to.
Speaker 3: The choice of Lois Frankel, she's come on far left,
Speaker 3: ninety percent voting with Pelosi and Biden, pregnant people. She
Speaker 3: pretends to be for women, she pretends to be for
Speaker 3: the black community. She started now Planned Parenthood here in
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy four, and she still speaks as if Roe v.
Speaker 3: Wade was nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 4: So we need the.
Speaker 3: Black community, the Hispanics to.
Speaker 4: Just try something different.
Speaker 3: My god decades if you're not satisfied the old Reagan saying,
Speaker 3: if you're not satisfied.
Speaker 4: With where you are now ten twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Mari Lago, Mari Lago's in your district, in
Speaker 1: the twenty third district there. We only have a minute left.
Speaker 1: I wanted to just mention, you know, when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, you know, John Anderson got a few percentage
Speaker 1: points as an independent, but now the independence in the
Speaker 1: ON affiliate is nationwide I was just saying in North
Speaker 1: Carolina that thirty nine percent of the vote now they
Speaker 1: were four percent in nineteen seventy eight. Big impact. Right,
Speaker 1: I'll give you the last word. We have one minute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, it is unique here in Palm Beach County.
Speaker 3: We were very surprised that they made the decision. But
Speaker 3: given the status of the country, given the status of
Speaker 3: the county, I don't believe the bet that the Democrats
Speaker 3: and the Independents are going to automatically go for a
Speaker 3: far left extremist like Lois Frankel. And here in the
Speaker 3: mar A Lago district, Like I said, my family's been
Speaker 3: here a century. There's been a lot of changes, and
Speaker 3: we're tired of the Democrat corrupt local government, including Lois Frankle.
Speaker 4: We're tired of it.
Speaker 1: Your primary.
Speaker 3: Early voting begins Saturday, and then the eighteenth is the voting.
Speaker 1: All right, fine. I wanted to thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming on, and so it's right around the corner
Speaker 1: when you when you emerge after that, we'll have you
Speaker 1: back on if you're in the general election. And I
Speaker 1: really appreciate your insight because it's fascinating what's going on
Speaker 1: in Palm Beach, and you know there's definitely some pitfalls
Speaker 1: to what's going on. I agree, but thank you so
Speaker 1: much and great seeing you.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Debbie. All Right, everyone, when we come back, I have
Speaker 1: a little bit of analysis Department of Energy. I have
Speaker 1: a Pentagon update for you and other stay tuned. Will
Speaker 1: be right back.
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Speaker 1: a Pentagon or Department of Energy or State Department update
Speaker 1: from those agencies. I cover the Pentagon, a lot Department
Speaker 1: of War around the country. And there's so much going on.
Speaker 1: You know. Trump has changed the landscape on energy, just
Speaker 1: completely change the landscape. His executive orders on small modula
Speaker 1: nuclear reactors and other and strategic energy dominance. I don't
Speaker 1: think people realize what's going on. You know, people say, oh,
Speaker 1: you know people are moving away from America. First, you know,
Speaker 1: they're moving away from Trump because he's not America first. Well,
Speaker 1: he is America first, and what's going on in Iran
Speaker 1: is critical. Could you imagine if we waited a year
Speaker 1: or two and did nothing about Iran and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, which Trump proved by bombing them along with
Speaker 1: Israel last June, and then going forward in February twenty
Speaker 1: eighth on when I Ran launched a long range missile
Speaker 1: that went two thousand plus miles, it proved that they
Speaker 1: had them. So what were we going to do? Even
Speaker 1: if you don't take out their nuclear and we did nothing,
Speaker 1: We're going to wait two years? So they launched two
Speaker 1: three four thousand ballistic missiles at a time into London
Speaker 1: or Paris. You know. So I think Trump did the
Speaker 1: right thing by going over there. Gas futures are down
Speaker 1: about sixty seventy cents a gallon this week. We'll see
Speaker 1: if that takes. And you know, I understand, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone like Bloviate's, oh there's a formula for futures and everything.
Speaker 1: The prices go up quick, they don't come down. So
Speaker 1: gas future is a down sixty five cents as of
Speaker 1: the taping of the show in like a week and
Speaker 1: I don't see prices coming down at the pump that much,
Speaker 1: so I think there is gouging going on. I think
Speaker 1: Trump makes a good point when he talks about the
Speaker 1: oil companies and stuff, hammering them a little bit, but
Speaker 1: he is totally changing the game with what's going on
Speaker 1: here small modulate actors one to thirty megawatts. I took
Speaker 1: a trip in February from California to Utah board to
Speaker 1: C seventeen with the Energy Secretary and the Deputy Secretary
Speaker 1: of War, Michael Duffy from California March half Force Space
Speaker 1: to Hill F Force Space in Utah where they're testing
Speaker 1: one of the valor Atomics SMR at the nearby San
Speaker 1: Rafael Testing Laboratory. But there's like nine other companies pursuing
Speaker 1: this stuff. A bunch of them I believe have achieved
Speaker 1: like critical mass. These htgers, these high temperature gas cold reactors,
Speaker 1: they're safe. You know, you can't weaponize them. You don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about terrorism with them. They get better underground,
Speaker 1: or I believe you could put in a compartment underground
Speaker 1: you could power five thousand homes for every five megawatt reactor.
Speaker 1: You could string them together, maybe you could put five
Speaker 1: plus together. You could use them on the Moon for
Speaker 1: a colony. I think that's the long term goal for
Speaker 1: these things. There's so much going on with energy, and
Speaker 1: I just wanted to, you know, go over a few
Speaker 1: things because you know, renewables do play a role in
Speaker 1: what's going on with America's energy production. And one advantage
Speaker 1: that could power sixty five million homes in America is geothermal.
Speaker 1: Now I'm in the building business, geothermal was never affordable.
Speaker 1: It was one hundred thousand. It was questionable as to
Speaker 1: his efficacy. But the technology has gotten so much better now.
Speaker 1: And there's a great article out there America's surprising energy advantage,
Speaker 1: how to beat China on clean power. You know, China's
Speaker 1: invested twice as much as we had in renewables and
Speaker 1: it's helped them. For us, we're only about twelve percent
Speaker 1: effective rate for renewable energy. We don't have enough battery
Speaker 1: storage that can supply a grid. It can only store
Speaker 1: an hour or two a day of energy. They're getting
Speaker 1: a lot better with it though, it's really increasing, but
Speaker 1: it's still not enough. You need natural gas, you need
Speaker 1: fossil fuels, you need coal, and you need nuclear for
Speaker 1: a stable electric grid. That's just the fact. But the
Speaker 1: renewables do help. And the geothermal push in America I
Speaker 1: think is really coming soon to a theater near you.
Speaker 1: As well as these SMRs which Trump is pushing ahead
Speaker 1: of schedule. You know, they weren't supposed to be in
Speaker 1: effect till twenty thirty. I think we're going to start
Speaker 1: seeing them in twenty twenty eight early twenty twenty nine,
Speaker 1: working which could power you know, these supposed data centers
Speaker 1: and everything. I think AI is biased, by the way.
Speaker 1: If you put in like crime statistics, you know, for
Speaker 1: illegals in America, it doesn't answer the question it's programmed
Speaker 1: by liberals. I don't care what you say. It's programmed
Speaker 1: by liberals, you know, because you know there's no hard numbers,
Speaker 1: you know, but we have reports that they're well for
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand felonies committed by illegals in Texas one
Speaker 1: stayed alone from twenty eleven to twenty seventeen, including four
Speaker 1: thousand murders. I think, you know, but there's no numbers
Speaker 1: on illegals, and we know that, but they go further
Speaker 1: when you look up in AI. I know I talked
Speaker 1: about this last week I'm media exposed. You know, when
Speaker 1: you look up how many illegals commit crimes in America,
Speaker 1: they are like, oh, and also they commit less crimes
Speaker 1: per capita than Americans, And it's like okay, And your
Speaker 1: point is how many hundreds of thousand Americas have been
Speaker 1: murdered or assaulted or maimed or raped or robbed from
Speaker 1: or killed in dwee accidents. You know, we interviewed angel
Speaker 1: families for years. I met Steve ronning Back I interviewed
Speaker 1: down at the border in twenty nineteen. His son was
Speaker 1: killed in a gas station and a robbery for no reason.
Speaker 1: Another angels facing on the street in California, and the
Speaker 1: car came up on the front lawn legals with drag
Speaker 1: racing and killed their like four year old kid. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a cost, There's a human cost. Never mind all
Speaker 1: the baby I was on the border in twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: with Ben Berkwam and three babies drowned, two or three
Speaker 1: toddlers drowned in the Rio Grand that weekend. Democrats don't
Speaker 1: care about human life. And Tom Mahoman always says, I
Speaker 1: don't want to hold any more dead babies out of
Speaker 1: the back of trailers. But anyway, there's a great American
Speaker 1: energy comeback. That's what the Department of Energy is calling it.
Speaker 1: And on August seventeenth, Chris Wright will be a Midland,
Speaker 1: Texas to meet with oil and gas workers and industry leaders.
Speaker 1: We're pumping out like thirteen to five fourteen million bowls
Speaker 1: a day, something like that. This advantage that America has
Speaker 1: an energy production, no country in the world can keep
Speaker 1: up with us. They're opening up this new giant plant
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Speaker 1: in Kentucky. Landmark partnerships with private energy companies. Next Terra Brookfield,
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Speaker 1: to develop the Department of Energies Paduca site. It is
Speaker 1: going to be a massive plant, one hundred billion dollars
Speaker 1: in private investment, one of the largest in Kentucky history.
Speaker 1: It's going to create eight thousand construction jobs out there.
Speaker 1: But there's so much going on here. So another big
Speaker 1: thing is I'm going to get into the next block,
Speaker 1: is you know this myth that we're out of weapons
Speaker 1: and Iran and you know, how could that information even
Speaker 1: come out? We're at war, and you're going to give
Speaker 1: a signal that we're weak, and it's bill because the attack,
Speaker 1: the attack ems those land to land missiles. We were
Speaker 1: phasing them ount anyway, and I know there's been like
Speaker 1: a thousand or so missiles fired, whether it's Pack three
Speaker 1: or thads or Patriot missiles. But we have supplies and
Speaker 1: we are armed, and as Hegseth always maintained, what we're
Speaker 1: doing in Iran is only about ten percent of American
Speaker 1: military might. I am not that worried about, you know,
Speaker 1: the thatats. We have new technology too. We launch these
Speaker 1: drones that can blow up in the in the air
Speaker 1: and take out the electronics of drone swarms, because I
Speaker 1: think our biggest fear is drone swarms overwhelming our fleets
Speaker 1: and other things. You know, if you're China sends ten
Speaker 1: thousand at a time, that could be a real problem.
Speaker 1: And next week there's going to be a big demonstration
Speaker 1: in North Dakota. I'm going to cover that either from
Speaker 1: here or there, we'll see, but there we're testing drones.
Speaker 1: It's the new way of warfare around the planet. It's
Speaker 1: scary because the technology is changing, but the US is
Speaker 1: still the leader in technology. Out there. But now the
Speaker 1: Chinese are building fake ships in the desert and they're
Speaker 1: practicing on our ships, probably with drone swarms. Someone told
Speaker 1: me a number they could make a hundred million drones
Speaker 1: or something crazy like that. But I think that we've
Speaker 1: got a lot going on, and Trump has really put
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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, welcome back to Breaking Point. I'm David Zier.
Speaker 1: I've got a great guest with us right now, colleague
Speaker 1: of mine inside the Pentagon covering what's going on at
Speaker 1: the Department of War, Mike Brest and the Washington Examiner,
Speaker 1: their defense reporter. Welcome to the show, Mic, Thank you
Speaker 1: for having me. Yeah, anytime. We had an incredible trip
Speaker 1: to Brussels for the NATO Defense Ministerial. That was a
Speaker 1: real great opportunity to see what's going on. They really
Speaker 1: rolled out the carpet for heg seth over there in Europe,
Speaker 1: right they did.
Speaker 6: But it was a quick trip.
Speaker 1: It was quick, all right. We got some We got
Speaker 1: some French fries, some freetz and a waffle and we
Speaker 1: were home. But really important, right, because NATO has to
Speaker 1: shift back more to the traditional sense of NATO one
Speaker 1: point zero. Now it's NATO three point zero, getting away
Speaker 1: from some of the other things that have distracted them
Speaker 1: more towards kind of like a Cold War posture, right, I.
Speaker 6: Think that's a fair way to put it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I know that you've been covering a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff for involving drones, and tell us what's the
Speaker 1: latest going on in Ukraine. I know they did a
Speaker 1: lot of damage inside Russia, maybe taking out twenty percent
Speaker 1: of their refining capacity, but Russia went on a campaign.
Speaker 1: But it's is it turning in Ukraine's favor right now?
Speaker 9: So I think it would be maybe a little bit
Speaker 9: too far to say that the tides have turned too
Speaker 9: heavily in Ukraine's favor, considering they're still very much outnumbered, outpowered,
Speaker 9: and are really just trying to use in a and
Speaker 9: technology to.
Speaker 6: Stay in the fight.
Speaker 9: And so while as you said, Ukraine and Russia as
Speaker 9: well have made significant strides in drone technology and their
Speaker 9: ability to use drones, we're still seeing Russia pommel Ukrainian
Speaker 9: cities with ballistic missiles that Ukrainians don't have great ways
Speaker 9: to defend against because they're relying on generally the US
Speaker 9: and the West for the exquisite air defense systems and
Speaker 9: interceptors that are required to handle ballistic missiles.
Speaker 6: So, while Ukraine does seem.
Speaker 9: To be making an impact in Russia's oil and gas
Speaker 9: industry with these longer range drone attacks targeting those types
Speaker 9: of facilities, it hasn't yet had an impact on stopping
Speaker 9: Russia's ability to use ballistic missiles to target Ukrainian cities
Speaker 9: that they really can't defend against.
Speaker 1: Did Russia take out a drone factory inside the Ukraine.
Speaker 9: There's been reporting that that's happened. It's unclear exactly, given
Speaker 9: we're so far away and both sides neither side likes
Speaker 9: to publicly talk about their losses but boast very heavily
Speaker 9: about their victories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So there's a lot of narratives going on,
Speaker 1: and I think it's it's despicable that you know, there's
Speaker 1: information leaking out about our status, how many missiles we
Speaker 1: have left and stuff. You know, we're in a war,
Speaker 1: and you know it kind of gives us. We lose
Speaker 1: leverage at the negotiating table when things like this come out.
Speaker 1: Every article you see is a hit piece on Pete
Speaker 1: hag Seth and stuff. What's the real story going on
Speaker 1: with our pack threes which are intermediate you know, atmospheric interceptors,
Speaker 1: the thads which are upper atmosphere, and then the patriot stocks.
Speaker 1: What's the real story?
Speaker 9: So I think the real story is that the US
Speaker 9: has used a lot of these over the course of
Speaker 9: the Yuran War. There's no disputing that, whether it's offensive
Speaker 9: weapons or defensive weapons to keep troops safe. They've expended
Speaker 9: significant amounts munitions over the last six months or so.
Speaker 9: Not only that, but the Pentagon both under President Trump
Speaker 9: before the Iran War and under President Biden talked about
Speaker 9: expanding capacity for some of these systems, in part because
Speaker 9: they were thinking about a future conflict, potentially against a
Speaker 9: peer adversary like China, and so to some extent, the
Speaker 9: concerns about where the stockpiles were before this conflict were
Speaker 9: already in the conversation. However, a lot of those conversations
Speaker 9: have since been heightened or elevated given the expenditure of
Speaker 9: munitions during the Iran War.
Speaker 6: And so, as you.
Speaker 9: Said, the President and the Trump administration have maintained that
Speaker 9: they have everything they need to carry out the President's
Speaker 9: objectives in Iran. The question is, as is the case
Speaker 9: after any conflict the US is involved in, there will
Speaker 9: take time where they.
Speaker 6: Need to sustain and maintain their systems.
Speaker 9: And it's in that time that they will need to
Speaker 9: not only recover what they've viewed, but they have talked
Speaker 9: about expanding the capacity two to three to four times,
Speaker 9: depending on the specific system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I see that, And there's a lot of
Speaker 1: cooperation with the private sector and stuff we've been covering
Speaker 1: regarding you know, quick turnaround and private public partnerships really important.
Speaker 1: I know I've read a report that they were going
Speaker 1: to triple the pack three capacity. But these things take
Speaker 1: a long time to develop, and you know, you could
Speaker 1: fire them quickly, but it could take a year or
Speaker 1: two to replenish. And so there's a lot. But tell
Speaker 1: us about do you know the latest on like counter
Speaker 1: UAS systems. I was I saw one that may have
Speaker 1: been employed and I ran that was like an air
Speaker 1: burst and it jammed and it could take out a
Speaker 1: drone swarm.
Speaker 9: Is that reality, it's hard to tell about specific systems
Speaker 9: of the US is using to defend troops in Iran
Speaker 9: because those are closely guarded secrets. But broadly speaking, the
Speaker 9: military is exploring several different ways to try and take down,
Speaker 9: as you said, not just one drone, but a drone swarm,
Speaker 9: because they pose unique challenges and the US needs to
Speaker 9: have a capability that is roughly the same cost, which
Speaker 9: is a big part of this conversation to defeat them.
Speaker 6: And so there are things that they are exploring with.
Speaker 9: Like lasers or electronic warfare or GPS jamming, all of
Speaker 9: which are ways that they could conceivably try and take
Speaker 9: a drone down without using a kinetic force or kinetic option,
Speaker 9: which is still a possibility, but there are other risks
Speaker 9: associated with doing that, like falling debris or potentially missing
Speaker 9: And so some of those conversations that we're having about
Speaker 9: the way the war is being carried out in the
Speaker 9: Middle East would be say applied differently if we're talking
Speaker 9: about domestic attack, where they're domestic considerations like commercial airliners in.
Speaker 6: The sky, where that could be a risk or concerned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially with like Golden Dome technology being worked on
Speaker 1: as well, so my concern is, you know, is that
Speaker 1: camp at Abury for the drone strike demonstration under the
Speaker 1: you know the is this incredible industry that we have
Speaker 1: of drone manufacturers. I mean I must have interviewed forty
Speaker 1: or fifty that day and then again at other events
Speaker 1: like spacecomm in Florida, and now they're doing this thing
Speaker 1: in North Dakota. One concern I had because the technology
Speaker 1: I saw, like the Orca. You know, you could take
Speaker 1: like one hundred of these at a time in a
Speaker 1: container on a ship and you can hand launch them
Speaker 1: off the side of the ship. They're the size of
Speaker 1: like a pigeon on the radar signature. And what if
Speaker 1: China did like five or ten thousand of these at
Speaker 1: a time on a guided missile destroyer, an aircraft carry
Speaker 1: a group. You know, are we vulnerable? Can we keep
Speaker 1: up with that? And is it a reality that China
Speaker 1: could do something like that, maybe launch two three thousand
Speaker 1: drones at a time.
Speaker 9: So to break up your question a little into two parts, sorry,
Speaker 9: it's first on. First on just sort of what we're
Speaker 9: seeing in terms of the threat from drones. I think
Speaker 9: you're absolutely right. I interviewed Secretary Dan Driscoll, the Secretary
Speaker 9: of the Army a couple months ago, and I asked
Speaker 9: him what his biggest fear was regarding counter drone technology,
Speaker 9: and he said that what keeps him up at night
Speaker 9: is essentially any container, as you mentioned, could be retrofitted
Speaker 9: with drones and anywhere in the world could be essentially
Speaker 9: turned on, the roof of the container lifted and drones
Speaker 9: could be launched. And so part of the concern is
Speaker 9: just how close the drones could be to their intended target,
Speaker 9: which would limit the amount of time the US would
Speaker 9: have to stop such an attack. And so it also
Speaker 9: comes into play when we think about like the Ukrainians
Speaker 9: out Operation Spider Web from last year, where they snuck
Speaker 9: drones on a truck into Russian territory, brought them near
Speaker 9: a Russian military base or air force base, and then
Speaker 9: use the drones to damage several so much.
Speaker 6: More expensive exactly.
Speaker 9: And so there have been concerns in the United States
Speaker 9: over the last couple of months about unidentified drones over
Speaker 9: military bases in the US and so while none of
Speaker 9: those instances have turned out to be an actual attack
Speaker 9: on a US base, the concept is there, and so
Speaker 9: speaking to both current and former military officials.
Speaker 6: They're concerned that there is.
Speaker 9: The possibility of a large scale drone attack in the
Speaker 9: United States, and the US is trying to.
Speaker 6: Catch up with what the threat could look like.
Speaker 9: But part of the conversation comes into play is, as
Speaker 9: I said, having systems to defeat drones over densely populated
Speaker 9: civilian in areas and to make sure that you aren't
Speaker 9: unintentionally leading to civilian casualties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's Trump's priority, and the Department of
Speaker 1: War was priority to you know, they're doing these technological
Speaker 1: experimentation the t Rex project around the country for technology readiness.
Speaker 1: It's just really the focus. I mean, this is going
Speaker 1: to be a drone warfare world very quickly. I'm concerned
Speaker 1: about like a cruise ship, like a carnival cruise ship
Speaker 1: or something, and you know, a container pulls up alongside
Speaker 1: and one hundred drones come out and they each have
Speaker 1: one hundred pound warheads and they could take out, you know,
Speaker 1: a large portion of the ship as a terrorist attack.
Speaker 1: It's really not that far fetched. We have less than
Speaker 1: a minute. Mike breast Tell review is where they can
Speaker 1: follow you and I'll give you the last word.
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
Speaker 9: I think people can follow my work at the Washington
Speaker 9: Examiners webs or follow me on Twitter at Mike BREASTDC.
Speaker 9: But just to go to your last point, it is
Speaker 9: important to recognize the drones can be cheaply produced, which
Speaker 9: allows them to be an opportunity potentially for a terror
Speaker 9: group as opposed to like a full country or large
Speaker 9: scale military. Because of the cheapness of producing drones, any
Speaker 9: group could really take that as an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of them are three D printed, coss
Speaker 1: in ten thousand versus forty million for a fighter jet.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just incredible what's going on in the
Speaker 1: world is changing quickly. Mike. I always appreciate your insight.
Speaker 1: It was great, you know, being with you, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know we're our paths across. Hopefully there won't
Speaker 1: be more war briefings because there'll be some type of
Speaker 1: resolution here in the Gulf. But let's see Thank you again.
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me all right, Mike.
Speaker 1: Thank you for watching Breaking Point. We'll see you next week.