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Speaker 1: All right here with senior scouting assistant Kelvin Fisher. And

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Speaker 1: so before we start, Calvin, thanks for being here. What

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Speaker 1: does that mean exactly? Tell fans what you do for

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Speaker 1: a living. And as you lead up here to the combine.

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Speaker 2: In the draft, I cover half of the country from

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Speaker 2: the west to the east. And there's like three other

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Speaker 2: area scouts that I'm over the top of and that's

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Speaker 2: kind of my role right now.

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Speaker 1: What does a typical week look like for you during

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Speaker 1: the NFL season Steelers? You're playing a game? What are

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Speaker 1: you doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, the first thing is we're watching our game

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Speaker 2: on Sunday wherever we at, if we're on the road

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Speaker 2: or at home. If you're at home, you watch the game.

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Speaker 2: You get on the flight, and I'll just take you

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Speaker 2: through a scenario. Say you're going to Washington State, Washington, Oregon,

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Speaker 2: Oregon State. So you'll get on the flight, fly out

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Speaker 2: the Spokane do Washington State Monday, leave there, go up

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Speaker 2: to Seattle, do Washington on Tuesday, leave there, drive down

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Speaker 2: to Oregon the Oregon State on Wednesday, and then Oregon

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Speaker 2: on Thursday. Now, with all that being said, when you

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Speaker 2: get there, you're going to the school you're gonna you're

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Speaker 2: gonna meet with certain people to get background information, you're

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Speaker 2: going to evaluate film, and then you're gonna go to practice.

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Speaker 2: Once you get to your next hotel, you're writing reporters, right,

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Speaker 2: You're putting all your information in. So that's that's the

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Speaker 2: first day. So it's it's non stop and like I said,

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Speaker 2: go to your next hotel, get up, same routine at Washington.

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Speaker 2: The fun part about it is it's a different school

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Speaker 2: every day. It's different players every day, and you're dealing

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Speaker 2: with different people every day.

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Speaker 1: So the season ends, right, obviously you get the college

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Speaker 1: football championships, but now you know before the combine you

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Speaker 1: have all the All Star games and different things. So

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Speaker 1: how big a part of your schedule is that.

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Speaker 2: So we'll we'll go to the All Star Game, we

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Speaker 2: do interviews, and we watch practice at the All Star Game,

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Speaker 2: so that that part of it. And you're putting all

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Speaker 2: this information in the system at there. So you're you're

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Speaker 2: always working. You're always working. You're always trying to find

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Speaker 2: a niche. You're always trying to find something that especially

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Speaker 2: when you like a player. Right, So you'll do you know,

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Speaker 2: the East West, and then you'll do the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Then you go home and and then you're doing your

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Speaker 2: cross checks at the same time, because we get it,

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Speaker 2: we get a cross check assignment in December, So you're

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Speaker 2: doing your cross checks to meet the deadline for that crosscheck.

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Speaker 1: Cross check meaning you're going outside of your career.

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Speaker 2: You're not, you're just watching film though, but it is

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Speaker 2: outside of yours players, outside of your area.

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Speaker 1: So there are multiple sets of eyes on all these

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Speaker 1: players before you even get to Indianapolis. Now, before you

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Speaker 1: get to and then before you get to Indianapolis. Now

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Speaker 1: on top of that, you throw a coaching changes here

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Speaker 1: Michael Carthy takes over. So understanding that good players are

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Speaker 1: good players. I'm sure every coach has a little and

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Speaker 1: maybe they want an offensive lineman who's nasty, or maybe

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Speaker 1: they want to offensive lineman who's got a little more

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Speaker 1: athleticism because he can pull. So how much of you

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Speaker 1: had to tweak your evaluations to the to the players.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't believe you have to tweak your

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Speaker 2: evaluations of players. I believe you just got to have

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Speaker 2: your evaluation on point. So if a guy is not tough,

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Speaker 2: you already know he's not tough. If a guy is

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Speaker 2: not physical. You already know he's not physical. And when

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Speaker 2: you when you meet as a staff in February, you

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Speaker 2: make sure you say that football is football, and you're

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Speaker 2: looking for football players. You're looking for guys who love

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Speaker 2: to play. You're looking for guys who you want to

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Speaker 2: be a Pittsburgh Steller. That's the only tweaking you do.

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Speaker 2: So when a new coach comes in, you got to

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Speaker 2: understand what he likes and what he doesn't like.

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Speaker 1: You have the unique perspective of having been through Mike

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Speaker 1: tom Win obviously taking over for Bill Cower, now Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy taking over for Mike tom Win. So maybe different

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Speaker 1: guys looking for different things. How does it change your

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, I don't think it changes our approach

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Speaker 2: on evaluate and the players. But we do have to

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Speaker 2: keep in mind the type of players he likes, the

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Speaker 2: type of players he wont Does he want big or small?

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Speaker 2: You know, does he want fast or quick? Those are

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Speaker 2: the things that you've got to probably tweak a little right,

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Speaker 2: But for the most part, Coach McCarthy ass came in

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Speaker 2: and told us kind of some of the things that

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Speaker 2: he liked about certain positions which helps us.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you put into twenty six hour days scouting

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Speaker 1: during the season, right, you've gone to the All Star Games,

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Speaker 1: You've had to recom with the new coaching staff. You

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Speaker 1: know what they want? What are you looking to do

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Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis? Why is this important for you?

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Speaker 2: It's the final touches on the players for you to

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Speaker 2: get to know them. So we get to interview him now,

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Speaker 2: we get to watch them. We get to see their

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Speaker 2: demeanor in the workouts. We get to see who's competitive.

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Speaker 2: We get to see the guys who's the leaders, you

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Speaker 2: know because you watch out here when they work out,

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Speaker 2: you know, and the guys that's getting every one going

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Speaker 2: to guy. You know. It's all these little things that

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Speaker 2: you're watching for. But the major part of it, I

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Speaker 2: think is this interview process. I think the interview process

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Speaker 2: is really good because the head coach, the GM, the

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Speaker 2: assistant GM, the owner is sitting in that room and

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Speaker 2: they get to understand and get to know who this

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Speaker 2: this person is, you know, this young man. They get

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Speaker 2: to know who that person because that young man is

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Speaker 2: telling his story to us.

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Speaker 1: So Omark commis selling us. You had two weeks of

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Speaker 1: meetings and everybody was together. So you come here to

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Speaker 1: the combine. When do you start kind of putting together

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Speaker 1: this this big board. Is the process already undergoing now

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Speaker 1: or is it something that waits a little?

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Speaker 2: The process is going on as soon as we throw

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Speaker 2: grays in the system in the fall. Hey, you may

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Speaker 2: have a guy that like a guy and give him

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Speaker 2: a good grade and other players may not, so someone

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Speaker 2: else got to look at him again, right, So the

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Speaker 2: process never stops. It's just putting the pieces together.

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Speaker 1: Of that puzzle is having twelve draft picks like waking

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Speaker 1: up on Christmas morning and seeing a couple extra expected

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think I ever had this many

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Speaker 2: picks before in all the years IVE been doing this,

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited. The thing about it is we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get someone late that's gonna end up being good that

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Speaker 2: everyone gonna be like, oh, because because it's twelve picks, right,

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Speaker 2: it gives you an opportunity to like change your franchise.

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Speaker 1: Right. Oh, this has been fascinating, and said Calvin really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank you very much for the thank you. Yep,