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Speaker 1: a I don't have a favorite car. Drive too many.

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Speaker 1: I just came back from New York yesterday and just

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Speaker 1: drove Mercedes as No. No, what is Paul Eisenstein himself

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Speaker 1: own and drive. You've got to have one in the stable.

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Speaker 1: That's just you love driving? Well right now, right now,

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Speaker 1: the car that I love to drive and I own

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Speaker 1: is an Audi A five cabriolet. Okay, what's gonna happen?

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Speaker 1: What do you think the electric version of that's going

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Speaker 1: to be, like, Uh, we'll know very soon. Not for

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Speaker 1: the A five, but Audie is about to launch their

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Speaker 1: first all electric vehicle, which is going to be an suv,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see that in about a year. You've got

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Speaker 1: to see a lot of luxury suv battery electric vehicles

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Speaker 1: over the next two to three years. As a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact, if you go to my site, the Detroit

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Speaker 1: Bureau dot com UH and you put put in you

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Speaker 1: do a search on there, we have a story where

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Speaker 1: we highlighted roughly twenty of the pure battery electric vehicles

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Speaker 1: that you'll be able to buy by and that includes

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Speaker 1: a lot of SUVs like the I Pace, like the

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Speaker 1: the Audi uh Electric. But there'll also be some really

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Speaker 1: cool sports cars. You know that Porsha has an all

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Speaker 1: electric model coming called the mission E, and Aston Martin

449
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Speaker 1: just previewed their first all electric and they have a

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Speaker 1: second one they claim is under development. A lot of gambles,

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Speaker 1: a lot of changes, a lot of gambles, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see such impact on the economy in the world,

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Speaker 1: it's like nothing. It's gonna be a revolution. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be as you as you started. It's gonna be like

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Speaker 1: Henry Ford and the Tin Lizzie all over again. The

456
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Speaker 1: big question, realm, we have the industry investing. My account

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Speaker 1: is close to one hundred billion dollars. That's Moon Launch money,

458
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Speaker 1: right estimating they're putting in a hundred billion dollars to

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Speaker 1: develop all these new electric vehicles. Here's the thing right now,

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Speaker 1: everything hybrids, plug ins, and pure pure electrics account for

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Speaker 1: just three percent of the US market and less than

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Speaker 1: that worldwide. They're spending all that money on a technology

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Speaker 1: that we don't know if consumers were like to want

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Speaker 1: to buy. I think they will when all the new

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Speaker 1: technology comes to market, all the new vehicles come to market,

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Speaker 1: But that's an awful lot of investment on the scome.

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Speaker 1: That's something that we don't know yet. If consumers will

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Speaker 1: want to buy, that's an awful big if. I still

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Speaker 1: go back to the Buick Rivierira, the GM built with

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Speaker 1: the touch screen technology and the A C controls. Everything

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Speaker 1: was touch screen. The dealer lots were sitting full of

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Speaker 1: those four or five months later, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: those cars got scrapped. They couldn't sell them. So you

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Speaker 1: know what it looks now run find me a car,

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Speaker 1: Find me a car all the way down to pretty

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Speaker 1: much the lowest level cars that don't have touch screens

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Speaker 1: to control almost anything. Right, But wasn't an idea that

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Speaker 1: was twenty years ahead of its time and our electric

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Speaker 1: cars too early. We'll see, we'll see, Paul. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be great. It's gonna be a great fodder for the

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Speaker 1: future for both you and I. So listen as always,

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Speaker 1: my friend, I really appreciate you taking time out of

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Speaker 1: your schedule. Um, one of these days we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: together and break bread and do more than just radio interviews.

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Speaker 1: But enjoy that. I appreciate you taking the time. How's

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Speaker 1: a pussy cap? By the way, Ah, he's here. We're

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Speaker 1: out at the cottage on the lake watching it rain,

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Speaker 1: and he's sitting here by the fire and enjoying himself.

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Speaker 1: Good deal. Hey, listen, you have a great rest of

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Speaker 1: the afternoon. We'll talk again real soon. Thank you, Bye bye. Right.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just I love Paul Eisenstein to death.

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Speaker 1: There's a guy who's just a walking He is just

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Speaker 1: so knowledgeable about what's going on in this industry. We'd

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Speaker 1: be lost with that, and we're very fortunate to happen

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Speaker 1: here at the Card Doctor. I'm Ron and Ay and

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Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Hey, welcome back the

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Speaker 1: Card Doctor. Eight five five five zero nine zero zero.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for sticking with us this hour. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it was really tough listening to Paul Eisenstein. There's a

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Speaker 1: there's a walking univc of what's going on in the

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Speaker 1: automotive industry on the new car sales and new car technology.

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Speaker 1: So I just a great, great, great, great interview each

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Speaker 1: and every time. We'll have him back again real soon.

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Speaker 1: Let's go over to Steve on Line one. Wants to

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Speaker 1: talk about a Honda Civic and a clutch problem or

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Speaker 1: some kind of a transmission related issues. Steve, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Card Officer. How can I help? Yes, a friend

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Speaker 1: has a two thousand five on the two and eighty

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Speaker 1: thousand miles and it's not a clutch problem. Her mechanics

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Speaker 1: says that the transmission, the manual transmission, needs an overhaul.

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Speaker 1: She was quoted a price of a thousand dollars and

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Speaker 1: actually I think she's looking at a newer used car

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Speaker 1: at this point. But I was wondering, Gee, it's probably

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Speaker 1: an obvious question, but I didn't think manual transmissions, uh

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Speaker 1: needed that much work. I thought they would go half

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Speaker 1: a million miles without necessarily needing an overhaul. So that's

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Speaker 1: my question. You know, Steve, great, great observation and great commentary.

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Speaker 1: Manual transmissions, if they do need to be rebuilt, can

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Speaker 1: actually be more costly than an automatic transmission, because there's

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Speaker 1: more hard metal parts in most manual transmissions today than

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Speaker 1: the other than than there are automatics. That being said,

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Speaker 1: what my first question would be when you say she

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Speaker 1: has a problem, is it that it won't shift from

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Speaker 1: gear to gear or is it any specific gear in itself?

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Speaker 1: You know that I don't know. Uh. The first thing

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Speaker 1: she reported to me it was getting into gear, which

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Speaker 1: sounds like clutch, But uh, she does trust her mechanic.

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Speaker 1: He's done a good work on the car, including a clutch.

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Speaker 1: Not in the recent past, but you know, some many

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Speaker 1: miles ago. And and he said, well, he checked it

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Speaker 1: out and determined that it didn't need about a thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars worth of work, you know. And you know, Virginia

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Speaker 1: is a little different than New Jersey. To overhaul a

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Speaker 1: hand to five speed in New Jersey is probably every

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Speaker 1: bit of three thousand dollars by the time, but well,

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Speaker 1: by the time you go through bearings, and well, you know,

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Speaker 1: how far are you gonna go. You're gonna take the

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Speaker 1: trends out of the car and split the case, or

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Speaker 1: you're only gonna put in half the parts of two

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Speaker 1: eighty thousand miles, you know, short of short of the

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Speaker 1: main cluster and and and all the main gear setups.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna do all the sync girls, all the needle rings,

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Speaker 1: all the support bearings and so on. So you know, again,

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Speaker 1: my question comes back to which gears. If it's tough

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Speaker 1: to get into first and it grinds going into reverse,

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Speaker 1: that's clutch. That's either clutch, clutch linkage, or hydraulic slave.

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Speaker 1: Something isn't allowing the clutch to engage or disengage properly.

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Speaker 1: All right, the if it's if it's all the gears

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Speaker 1: that it feels nachi and tight. I would also just

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Speaker 1: take a hard, careful look at the shift linkage. There's

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Speaker 1: a couple of rubber bushings there that can wear out

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Speaker 1: both under the console in the car and out on

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Speaker 1: the transmission itself. There's things that will rust and corroad,

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Speaker 1: especially down Virginia Way. You guys get all kinds of

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Speaker 1: crazy weather. You know, you guys have tough you guys

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Speaker 1: have tough winters too, just like the Northeast. And I

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Speaker 1: would be taking a careful look at that. Um I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he's wrong. I'm not the attending physician, but

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Speaker 1: I would just be asking those questions and saying, all right,

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Speaker 1: what is it that you think is bad in the

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Speaker 1: trans If it's sync rows and he's gonna do that

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Speaker 1: for a thousand bucks, brother, take them up on it.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a that's a that's a cheap price.

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Speaker 1: But I would also be asking about, gee, don't we

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Speaker 1: want to overhaul the whole transit to eighty and not

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Speaker 1: just replace some of the parts. Well, I think she's

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Speaker 1: made a decision to go with another car. But I

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Speaker 1: had said she should call you. But a lot of

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Speaker 1: times when I make that suggesting that people they go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to. So I said, what the hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll call you. I appreciate it. I did. I did

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Speaker 1: not have all the details about that. You're just telling

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Speaker 1: me you know, which gears and so forth. So that

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Speaker 1: was just some good questions. So those are things you

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Speaker 1: can go back to her and ask her Steve, and

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Speaker 1: as always, I appreciate you taking the time, and I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys being a listener. So good luck to

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Speaker 1: you down there Virginia Way, and keep listening to the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor. We're glad to have you in the family.

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Speaker 1: Eight five five zero nine zero. Run any of the

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Speaker 1: car Doctor coming back right after this, Hey, welcome back

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Speaker 1: Ring of the Car Doctor. Zero nine zero is the

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Speaker 1: car Doctor seven always They're always working, always doing what

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Speaker 1: it can for you. Phone number you can call eight

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Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero, leave a message and Tom Ray

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Speaker 1: or Rookie Dan, Rookie Dann. We have going with a

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Speaker 1: better name for him if he sticks around. UM, I

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Speaker 1: don't like that, man. I can think of a few names,

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Speaker 1: but not for Family Radio. And we guess gotta make

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Speaker 1: sure that you know Danny will answer you and answer

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Speaker 1: your questions and put you in Q for the next

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Speaker 1: live broadcast, whatever that might be. So you can call

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Speaker 1: that number anytime, day to night and leave it there. Hey, Ron,

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Speaker 1: let's do a quick piece of email. I got I

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Speaker 1: got a minute and a half. Hey, Ron was looking

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Speaker 1: at a two thousand seven Lexus GS three fifty oh.

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Speaker 1: Wheell drive the cars on hundred twenty six thousand miles

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Speaker 1: on it has been dealer service. Have I purchased the car?

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Speaker 1: I want to get the fluid replaced. I spoke to

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Speaker 1: the deal and they said that does not need to

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Speaker 1: be changed, but of course four and fifty dollars to

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Speaker 1: do so. How do they know how much it costs

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Speaker 1: if it never needs to be changed? Another one of

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Speaker 1: those never ever? Ever. I have no problem paying for this,

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Speaker 1: but I'm wondering if that mile do I do more

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Speaker 1: harm than good with the car? I look at all

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Speaker 1: the maintenance records and otherwise it appears to be well maintained.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear your opinion. Thanks, Glenn, Glenn, I

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Speaker 1: change it and I'll tell you why, uh that that

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Speaker 1: should be Toyota WS trans fluid and it's an editive package.

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Speaker 1: That's That's the big difference on a lot of these fluids,

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Speaker 1: just the edits that they put in there, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of the reports you read they talk about how

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Speaker 1: the fluid does wear out because the editive package gets depleted.

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Speaker 1: And I think at a thousand, hundred twenty six thousand

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Speaker 1: miles excuse me, miles later, you know you're a little pest.

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Speaker 1: Do but I would rather do it now. I would

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Speaker 1: rather do it now and see what happens, because if

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Speaker 1: you let it go, it's only gonna get worse in time.

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Speaker 1: And you know, do you want to drive it slowly

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Speaker 1: into the ground or do you want to try to

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Speaker 1: wear the ground altogether? UM For changing fluid, I really

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Speaker 1: am regardless now regarding the price for four and fifteen dollars,

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Speaker 1: my guess is they're changing trans fluid and or they

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Speaker 1: should be changing the final drive. There's a small little

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Speaker 1: differential on that vehicle, if I'm not mistaken, that's kind

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Speaker 1: of tough to get to. It's roughly seven eighths American

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Speaker 1: or twenty four millimeter uh socket UM to get to

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Speaker 1: the drain plug and the filled plug on the side

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Speaker 1: of the case. That should be done, and if there's

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Speaker 1: a real differential that should be served as well. Bottom line,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about doing a drive line fluid change and

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Speaker 1: changing at all, not just focusing on the trans and

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Speaker 1: from there you can you know, you can do you

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Speaker 1: can you can then count on the car and let

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Speaker 1: it let it do what it's got to do, all right.

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Speaker 1: So that about wraps it up for today. I'm running

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Speaker 1: any in the Car Doctor. What a busy show. I'm

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Speaker 1: running handy in the Car Doctor. For mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you