1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: We are rolling into the third hour. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Lots of news out there, Trump and Davos. We have 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: talked quite a lot about that, the Greenland debate, but 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: continuing now for a couple of weeks as a major 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: story everything that is surrounding Minneapolis. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: We talked to her a couple. 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Of weeks ago, and at that point in time I 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: was hopeful that she might be willing to put her 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: foot forward and step into the race. 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: Now she has done so. 12 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Former NFL sideline reporter Michelle Tafoya. She lives in Minnesota, 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: and she has thrown her hat into the ring to 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: compete in the Republican Senate primary in Minnesota to potentially 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: run for the Senate in November in the state of Minnesota. 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: So as we bring in Michelle Tafoya, congratulations you have 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: officially announced. We have shared your announcement video. What was 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: the deciding factor and what should we know about your 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: now announced campaign to bring a Republican voice of sanity 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: to the state of Minnesota. 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: A state that really needs some sanity. Guys, it's great 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: to see you. Thanks for having me on. You know, 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: when I talked to you. A couple of weeks ago, 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: I was close to making this decision, and I think 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: just we are suffering a crisis here in Minnesota. We 26 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: are at crisis levels, a crisis of leadership, a crisis 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: of law enforcement, a crisis in the middle class, and 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: it it became very apparent to me that the career 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: politicians are not coming to save us, and so I 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: feel like the rest of us have to put our 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: foot forward and do this and clean up this mess. Look, 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: I've lived here over thirty years. I love it here. 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: I've raised my kids here, my family and my husband. 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: I've raised our kids here, and I remember the Minnesota 35 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: that I'm sure you guys have visited, which is peaceful 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: and you know, safe streets, safe towns, and great schools. 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: But we've been in decline and it's hard to watch 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: and it's sad to watch, and we've lost some people. 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: They've moved out, and I've talked to fourth and fifth 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: generation Minnesotans who don't want to move out, and they 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: want sanity, and they want common sense, not the corruption 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: that we've seen with all this fraud, not the craziness. 43 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 3: And so that's why I'm running for Senate. 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: What has to happen for there are a lot of 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: independence that Michelle, thanks thanks for being here. It's buck 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: a lot of independence in your state. And there's a 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: big political independence street, right, and so this is I 48 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: think we can throw people sometimes because Okay, we've got 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: a lot of independence. What else would they have to 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: see from Democrat governance of this state to start to 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: consider themselves. 52 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: Right leaning independence? 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: I just wonder where they if you could kind of 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: frame or put in in context the mindset of the 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: Minnesota independent right now, how could you be in the 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: middle when one side is screwing everything up? 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think we saw a significant marker 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: of that when Tim Walls withdrew from the gubernatorial race. 59 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: He saw the writing on the wall he was not 60 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: going to win. He was convinced to step down. So 61 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: I don't know who the Democrats are going to put 62 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: in the gubernatorial race, but I think what they're seeing 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: is that a lot of Minnesotans are fed up and 64 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: that they are ready for a change of some kind. Look, 65 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: the political elites have been running this state and not 66 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: running it well. And even our folks in Washington, Amy 67 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: klobashar Angie Craig. They were supposed to be mining the 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: store and they let things fall through the cracks. So 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: this is widespread failure of leadership. And I think the 70 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: Minnesotans that I talked to they're seeing that. They get 71 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: that Tim Walls got it, and so I think we 72 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: may be about to see a change, and I think 73 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: that people are starting to wake up to it. 74 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: A huge part Buck mentioned of the independent voice in 75 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: Minnesota is the kind of place that elect Jesse Ventura. 76 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: For people who remember this back in the day, and 77 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: I was reading Michelle, and I'm sure you're going to 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: see this a ton as you start to travel the state. 79 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: What really Minnesota represents is there's a Minneapolis view for 80 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: what the world should look like, and then there's a 81 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: whole lot of other people all over the state of Minnesota, 82 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: in different communities who have a completely different view of 83 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: what the world should look like. How do you manage 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: that divergence between what I would say is rural red 85 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: state Minnesota that overwhelmingly votes Republican and Minneapolis, which overwhelmingly 86 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: wrote votes blue and drags the state very often in 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: its direction. In other words, how do you get because 88 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: you're going to have to get a bunch of them 89 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: some people in Minneapolis to be able to see that 90 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: they need to come to the side of sanity. 91 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: Sanity is the word there. Look, yes, I'm going to 92 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: have to earn every single vote, and I know every 93 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: candidate says that, but in this case it's absolutely true. 94 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: Because we're fighting an uphill battle, right, so we have 95 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: got to get turnout. We have got to get every 96 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: Republican to the polls. And then yeah, I'm going to 97 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: talk to everyone. I am going to talk to every 98 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: because I want to represent everyone. I don't like the 99 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 3: division in this state, and I think ultimately people have 100 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: much more in common, and that's been proven to me. 101 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: I've got friends on the other side of the aisle 102 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: who are pulling for me because they see this nonsense. 103 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 3: They see the insanity, they see the fraud, they see 104 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: law enforcement having their hands tied, and they're tired of it. 105 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: And the fraud really is making everyone pretty sick because 106 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: that was billions and billions of dollars supposed to go 107 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: to kids, right, and it said it went to these criminals. 108 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: And I would urge Minnesotans of every strip to look 109 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 3: at their pay stubs and ask themselves about their taxes. 110 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: What did it pay for? Are we filling potholes or 111 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: are we buying lakeside property for these thieves. So I 112 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: think a lot of people are waking up to that 113 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 3: and understanding that what they thought Tim Walls and Peggy 114 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 3: flan again were is not who they are. And so there, 115 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: I just I believe that we have more in common 116 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: across this state. Look, there are some votes I'm never 117 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: going to get right, just absolutely never, and you accept 118 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: that going in. But that independent streak, I think they're ready. 119 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: Do you have any we're speaking of Michelle Tafoya, she's 120 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: running for Senate in Minnesota. And you know, we're always 121 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: heartened by the fact, Michelle, that we've got a great 122 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: station in Minneapolis and we're heard across much of the state, 123 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: I think pretty much, you know, certainly the greater Minneapolis 124 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: metro area. So there are sane people in your state. 125 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: And it was a pretty close election the last time. Right, 126 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: you're not trying to you know, you're not trying to 127 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: flip Massachusetts red or something there, Right, I mean, you've 128 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: actually got a real shot here. It's a very close 129 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: election in this last election, by the numbers, just for 130 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: the presidency. But in terms of the fraud and cleaning 131 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: things up, one of the concerns that I can see 132 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: it is you've got a Democrat governor, you got Democrat senators, 133 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: You've got a Democrat state attorney general, you got a 134 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: Democrat Frye in the city of Minneapolis. Is this something 135 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: that the Trump administration needs to dive into you on 136 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: the federal side, just so we can get some answers 137 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: about what's going on. 138 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think that a lot of that 139 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: has been done. We've had you know, lawyers here looking 140 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 3: into it, and that's where a lot of it's been found. Absolutely, 141 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: because clearly the folks running the state aren't going to 142 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: do it, so we need to And a lot of 143 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: these tax dollars, as I mentioned, weren't just Minnesota's. They 144 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: were US tax dollars that were being funneled to Minnesota 145 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: to help with autism centers, to help with feeding kids, 146 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: all of these things. So I think that everyone should 147 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: be ticked. I don't think Minnesota is alone. I think 148 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: we're going to see a lot more in other states. 149 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: And I think that's going to have to come from 150 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: the FEDS looking into this and saying where is it? 151 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: What is it? Can we claw any of it back? 152 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: And how do we stop it? And how do we 153 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: not let this happen again? You know, there need to 154 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: be guardrails. There need to be serious guardrails. If the 155 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: federal government is going to give your state money for 156 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: specific use, there need to be guardrails. And those clearly 157 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: were not put up, or they were clearly people just 158 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: looked aside or they didn't ask the tough questions because 159 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: it was politically incorrect to do so. So I don't 160 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: think the FED is going to care about federal government's 161 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: going to care about political correctness. 162 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: Michelle. 163 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: You made millions of dollars working in sports. A lot 164 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: of people know you from the sidelines. Oh good, good 165 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: for you, Michelle. I Clay says that would love. I'm 166 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: not tossing it out there. I'm not tossing it out 167 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: there as an insult. You had a good job in sports. 168 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: Some people are already saying, oh, she was a sideline reporter, 169 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: what the heck does she know about politics? You might 170 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: be surprised, Michelle. A lot of people don't always say 171 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: nice things about me. I came from the world of sports. 172 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: I actually I yell at them, though, Michelle, I don't 173 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: let them get away with that. But I do think 174 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: it speaks well for you because you had my point 175 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: on This is what many people would consider to be 176 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: a dream job. You traveled, you got to stand on 177 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: the sideline watch amazing athletes play the most popular sport 178 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: in America, the NFL, and as your career evolved, you 179 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: eventually couldn't stay silent anymore. What would you say to 180 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: critics who say, oh, she's just a dumb sports person. 181 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: Why in the world is she going to be a politician, 182 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: Because that's out there. I've already seen it when I 183 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: shared your video. People often say mean things about me 184 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: in the same way, right, so I'm familiar with it. 185 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: But to me, it's actually a positive for you because 186 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: you had a great job, but you couldn't stay quiet 187 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: because of what you saw happening to the country. I 188 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: imagine that's part of your answer. But how did you 189 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: come from sports to here? 190 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: Look nine to eleven really changed me, guys. I know 191 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: it changed lots of people in America, but look, my 192 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: dad was a kind of the son of legal immigrants. 193 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 3: Told me every day of my life, how lucky I 194 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: was to be born in this country, and I took 195 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 3: that to heart, and so I always appreciated and was patriotic. 196 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: I wasn't always conservative. I went to Cal Berkeley, but 197 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: you know, then I went to grad school and I 198 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: got a master's in business from Southern cal and that 199 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,479 Speaker 3: sort of started my awakening about like taxes and finance 200 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: and how things are done. Yes, I had my dream job. 201 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: I got to cover the Olympics. I got to cover 202 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: the NFL, the NBA, all kinds of college sports. It 203 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: was phenomenal. I traveled a ton. But that doesn't mean 204 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: that we don't read. It doesn't mean that we don't 205 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: pay attention. It doesn't mean that we don't study. And 206 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: I've done a lot of that at the same time 207 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: that I've been doing this job for the last you know, 208 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: since twenty twenty two, and that Super Bowl was my 209 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: last game. That's I have just dove in, dove in, 210 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: I have dove What is the right I dived in? 211 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: Reminded me dove in, by the way, But I've always 212 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: expert on graveryone who. 213 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,239 Speaker 3: Was and I did, and I did swimming at the Olympics, 214 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: so I should really be better at that dove dived thing. 215 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: But anyway, you get the idea. I have submersed myself, submersed, 216 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: immersed my first. 217 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: And submerged yourself. You combine those two words, which should 218 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: be a word I did. 219 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: That was kind of I'm not going to. 220 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: Go there, George Bush, there we go. 221 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: Because this is like my one hundredth interview today. But anyway, 222 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 3: I have immersed myself in all of that stuff, and 223 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: in studying and reading and reading history. And Look, you 224 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 3: can be smart and wise about a lot of things 225 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: and be a sports reporter. And one of the things 226 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: my job taught me was how to ask questions, how 227 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: to hold people to account for their answers. I dealt 228 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: with owners, I dealt with gms. I dealt with head 229 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 3: coaches in good moods and in bad I dealt with players. Look, 230 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: I adopted my daughter from Bogota, Columbia. We went through 231 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: that whole legal process. I've been a lot of places. 232 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: I know how good America is and how good it 233 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: can be. So you know, if people want to label me, 234 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: that's up to them. I'm not going to play that game. 235 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: I'll just have to go out and earn people's confidence. 236 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: Well, Michelle when you win your Senate race, you have 237 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: to come back on and go head to head with 238 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: Clay with some football sports picks for us. 239 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: Okay, because I. 240 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: Want to see the Clay faces another pro in the 241 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: commentary business. 242 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: How he fares. 243 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: I don't know when I just said, I submersed. That 244 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 3: doesn't make me a pro in the commentary business, does it? 245 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 3: Or Dove dived? 246 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, it definitely does. We make all kinds of 247 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: We have all kinds of kerfuffles here on this show. Oh, 248 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: I screw up everything when it comes to speech. 249 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: What's the reaction kerfuffle Land. 250 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: What's the reaction been from the sports media universe to 251 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: your decision personally on your phone. I'm not asking you 252 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: to tell you who said like, yes, I'm proud of 253 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: you or things like that, positive or negative that you've 254 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: decided to run in your own personal network of sports universe. 255 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: You know, I think it's been largely amazingly positive. And 256 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: I won't name names, but some of them might surprise you. 257 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: So it's been fun. It's the first day, so I'm 258 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: sure I'm going to continue to hear from a lot 259 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: of people, but I think we're I feel the support 260 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: I love that because they know me. These are friends 261 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: of mine, these are people I've debated with, and they 262 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: know me, and they know what I bring to this 263 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: and what I won't do is lie. What I won't 264 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: do is sacrifice my integrity. So I think, you know, Look, 265 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: that's the trust I have to build. But I feel 266 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: good about where I am and I wouldn't be doing 267 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: this if I didn't think we could win. 268 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: Amen, She's Michelle Tafoya. If people are interested in your campaign, Michelle, 269 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: where should they go? 270 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: Michelle Tafoya dot com, Michelle Tafoya dot This is going 271 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 3: to be a tough slog, guys. It's going to be 272 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: an uphill battle, and so we need all the help 273 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 3: we can get. So if anyone wants to chip in 274 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: or volunteer or whatever, we'd love to have you on 275 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: board because it's gonna take It's gonna take a lot 276 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: of work. 277 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: Amen. 278 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: We're looking forward to hearing how the campaign goes. I'm 279 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: sure we'll have you on quite a lot in Congrats 280 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: on the official launch, guys. 281 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: It's great to see you. Thanks so much for having me. 282 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 283 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: She has really good media presence. She should think about 284 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: a media career actually does a good job talking. Thanks 285 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: to Michelle, She's gonna I think, look, of all the 286 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: states out there, Minnesota I think has become the craziest. 287 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: And the only way I think you can punch back 288 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: against crazy is Republicans have to show up and they 289 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: have to persuade. But Republicans have to also show up 290 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: in big numbers. And I want to see. It's an 291 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: open Senate seat, there's no incumbent. It's a relatively fair fight. 292 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. Look, we got some crazy winter 293 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: weather heading to Nashville. Thankfully we have rapid radios. I 294 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: didn't know we even had a generator. We were just 295 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: talking about this because it might get so wild that 296 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: maybe we're gonna get a couple of feet of snow. 297 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: And in Nashville, if you get a couple of inches 298 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: of snow, the whole city falls apart. 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We're gonna got 336 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: a lot of talkbacks coming in. 337 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: We gotta disentangle some of this, but I'm just gonna 338 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: say when it comes to a lot of you out there, 339 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: we love you all, a lot of you as prosecutors. 340 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: You take the Linda with the drug runners getting blown 341 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: up on the boats. 342 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: Approach. 343 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: Hang and jury out there for those of you, I 344 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: think it was Linda. When we were talking about the 345 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: drug boat charges. I couldn't stop they stop thinking about Linda. 346 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: I think it was Linda like just taking a drag 347 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: on her cigarette, just like waste them. Because Clay was 348 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: trying too, He's like, what if they're waving a tiny 349 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: white flag and they're holding an orphaned puppy. 350 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: In the light them up, Light them up. Fire. 351 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't come up with anything that Linda would be like, 352 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: don't anything other than kill them. And we're running into 353 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: the same thing here with you know, it's a guy's 354 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: Tim Walls. 355 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: He's done. 356 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: He's a hapless rube. He's the guy, you know, he's 357 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: got no power, doesn't really know anything. 358 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: What's the point. 359 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: You're like, send them away, prosecute him, whatever you gotta do, 360 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: throw the kitchen sink at him. 361 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, WHOA, Okay, I don't know what Walls is. 362 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: So there are other people that I could see that 363 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: there would be this kind of reaction to. But I 364 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: don't think if Walls as somebody who we even care 365 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: about really anymore. When we come back, we will, we'll 366 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: break into some worthy stories. But first I gotta tell 367 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: you there's lots of chaos out there on the Internet 368 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: streets because cyber threats are everywhere. 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Based upon a very 384 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General 385 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: of NATO, Mark Root, we have formed the framework of 386 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: a future deal with respect to Greenland and in fact 387 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: the entire Arctic region. This solution, if consummated, will be 388 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: a great one for the United States of America and 389 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: all NATO nations. Based upon this understanding, I will not 390 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go into 391 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: effect on February first. Additional discussions are being held concerning 392 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: the Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland. Further information 393 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: will be made available as discussions progress. Vice President jd Vance, 394 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Special Envoy Steve Whitcoff, and 395 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: various others as needed, will be responsible for the negotiations. 396 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: They will report directly to me. Thank you for your 397 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: attention to this matter. 398 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: Yesterday, Buck, the stock market sold off as people got 399 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: nervous about potentially there being conflict here, maybe even boots 400 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: on the ground attacks. Stock market is soaring and basically 401 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: erasing all of yesterday sell off as I speak to 402 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: all of you, and we are rapidly approaching yet another 403 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: all time record high in the stock market. Now, so 404 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: that is out there, Buck, what exactly that looks like? 405 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: Of course, the devil is in the details that we 406 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: as we have been talking about quite a lot, and 407 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: we got a whole lot of talkbacks of people that 408 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: want to go full Linda with the legal system. Throw 409 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: them away, lock lock them up, throw away the key. 410 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: They're not they don't want to hear any nuance, any 411 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: any tactics. They're just like, enough is enough. So let's 412 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: let's make do you want to make our way through 413 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: some of the By the way, I start well with 414 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: Trump Greenland thing, Yes, strain of salt. Let's see I 415 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: hope he's right, But you know, the beginning of a 416 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: framework for future deal. 417 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 2: I know Trump all ought have to know. 418 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: That could mean a lot of things totally, And I 419 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: would just say, in general, the people who panic every time. 420 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we've been dealing with Trump now as a 421 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: person of political influence for over a decade. The degree 422 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: to which left wingers panic and immediately lose their minds 423 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: anytime Trump does anything, you would think it would change. 424 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: But Richard and Savannah Georgia Richard fire away. 425 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, good afternoon, gentlemen. Enjoy your show. I have been 426 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 6: listening to you since they took over from Rush. You 427 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 6: guys make me laugh out loud and sometimes make you 428 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 6: just want to scream. Anyway, I agree with you what 429 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 6: you just said about Greenland, about Trump. But why I'm 430 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 6: really calling though, is about earlier I've been listening to 431 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 6: you guys about the DOJ bringing indictments and how a 432 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 6: sister a farce and then won't work and the sister 433 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 6: a joke. Well, you know that being said, the American 434 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 6: people voted for the dog and for Trump to bring 435 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 6: these people to justice, bring them to court. The American 436 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 6: people want true justice in the American way to say, Superman, 437 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 6: that's what we want, and I don't care what happens. 438 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 6: The Democrats lost the end of minority and all these 439 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 6: nuts that are in Minnesota are the same way. We 440 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 6: shouldn't worry about. 441 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: What we're not in disagreement. Sorry to cut you off. 442 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: We're not in disagreement with any of that. But the 443 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: question becomes, Richard, are you married? Yes, I am, Okay, 444 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: Before you were married, were you interested in potentially dating 445 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: a supermodel? 446 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: My bet is yes. 447 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get you in trouble, not gonna get 448 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: you in trouble with your wife. But I bet most 449 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: of the men out there listening to us right now, 450 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: before you were married, you might have been interested potentially maybe, 451 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: And it's open to the idea I think is open 452 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 1: to the idea of this supermodel if she should cross 453 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: his path. Okay, and at some point in time, if 454 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: you were going to take the next step and actually 455 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: data supermodel, you would need to have a plan in 456 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: order to do so. What we are saying here, Thank 457 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: you for the call, Richard, and good luck with the supermodel. 458 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: By the way, I have no idea where you're going 459 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: with the supermodel things. So I'm curious that analogy is 460 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: a good one. You can conceptually be in favor of 461 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: something that would be fantastic for you and hopefully the 462 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: country as well, but until you have a plan in 463 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: order to put that in motion, there is not actually 464 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: a tangible reality of it happening. What we have stepped 465 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: beyond is, yes, there should be consequences for people who 466 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: break the law. But the question Buck asked, which is 467 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 1: a good one, is the important one. What are the 468 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: charges that can be brought? What is the tangible crime 469 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: that has been committed? And we always all we have 470 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: some people that are writing and saying I disagree with you, guys, 471 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: I think Letitia James should be chie We've said Leticia 472 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: James should be charged, like you don't disagree. I'm saying 473 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: there is a crime that she is alleged to have committed. 474 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: She should not escape those, Uh, you know, those consequences 475 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: because of political considerations, we no longer do that. We 476 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. I'm saying she should be prosecuted. You're 477 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: saying she should be prosecuted. I think that people who 478 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: lie under oath should be prosecuted. If Comy lied under oath, 479 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: he should be prosecuted. The only place where there seems 480 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: to be some disagreement is I'm saying, if for some 481 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: reason people want Tim Walls to be charged, I need 482 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: to know for what, Yes, And people who are saying 483 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: if you don't have an answer, it doesn't matter. 484 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: I say, that's not a good idea. You have to 485 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: have a for what. 486 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: Also important in a significant way, Tim Walls doesn't really 487 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: have any assets, so I don't believe team correct me 488 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I don't think Tim tim Walls even 489 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: owns a home. So there are lots of politicians. We 490 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: can name a lot of them, Elon Obhan taking. 491 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: His tap dancing shoes. 492 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: But yes, yes, but that get into office and then 493 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: become super wealthy. Tim Walls doesn't even own a home, 494 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: so charging him with a crime where he benefited financially 495 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: is going to be hard to do because the dude 496 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: has no assets, which is why I laid out potentially 497 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: the money campaign donations might be a way if you 498 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: look into it. I also think I have not seen anything, 499 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: and you can call the old fashioned, but I have 500 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: not seen anything to suggest that Tim Walls has himself 501 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: committed a crime. And I really mean this being a moron, 502 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: which he clearly is guilty of, is not a criminal offense. 503 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: So I don't know why politicians in jail if being 504 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: a moron was a criminal offense. And before I get 505 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: because I said, you know, we see some of the 506 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: headlines on some of the calls and the talkbacks, we 507 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: get here before anyone. 508 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: Else comes on. 509 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: The Somali fraudsters, of course should be prosecuted and should 510 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: go to prison. 511 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: The zero there's zero. 512 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: Disagreement with anybody who's calling in about that. Of course 513 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: they should because they committed a crime. But I just 514 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: think people are in this like we just got to 515 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: destroy the other side mindset. When and when I would say, 516 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: there are two problems with that. One, I'm not sure 517 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: it works as well as some people think it will. 518 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: That's to the point about okay, what's the crime? And 519 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: two is that really what we want? 520 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 6: Now? 521 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: We're just gonna have completely preposterous crimes like this. This 522 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: is why people keep saying it's the Trump thing is 523 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: not similar? Well, no, the Trump thing, the political blowback 524 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: of and maybe the twenty four or the thirty four 525 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: of felon accounts in New York is the even the 526 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: best example the mar Lago raid they thought would destroy 527 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: Trump politically, and it completely backfired in their faces. Yes, 528 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is if you just do something 529 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: that normal people can recognize is an abuse of the 530 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: law for political reasons, it can backfire on you. And 531 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: this is why bringing a charge against Tim Wallas that 532 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: we don't even know what the charge. 533 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 4: I don't know. 534 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 2: Where's this idea that Tim Wallas is going to be 535 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: charged for what I keep saying four on the market. 536 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: I think the best case for Tim Walls being charged 537 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: is the one that I laid out, and I think 538 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: it's a hard case to get a conviction on, but 539 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: I laid it out. Michael in Atlanta, you say you 540 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: want may Or Fry in Minneapolis charged with a crime. 541 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: What is the crime specifically? 542 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 7: Hi, guys, Well, I want to agree with you and 543 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 7: also disagree with you at the same time. And I'm 544 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 7: going to agree with you that there has to be 545 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 7: a crime. But where I'm gonna go disagree with you 546 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 7: is you were comparing earlier in your show. You were 547 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 7: comparing Fry with Trump, and you can't compare the two 548 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 7: because Trump really is the exception that disproves the rule. 549 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 7: What I mean, is you go back in time in 550 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 7: the eighties, Trump was a rock star, bigger than most 551 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 7: rock stars. His life is completely different. He gets into 552 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 7: politics and he changes to a Republican And what we 553 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 7: saw is the Democrats basically want to sabotage him really 554 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 7: for who he was. Now Fry is nobody. He's a 555 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 7: mayor of Minneapolis, almost like mayor Pete being of of 556 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 7: you know, South Bend. What I'm saying is he's not 557 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 7: gonna his profile is not going to be elevated because 558 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 7: he's indicted. 559 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think is wrong on that. 560 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: That'll be a major national story. But the bigger question 561 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: is his profile is massively elevated if he's charged at 562 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: a crime. What crime have you seen that you think 563 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: he should be charged with? 564 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 7: Well, I think obviously that's the question for Pam Bondy. 565 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 7: But that's where a lot of people are getting trustrated 566 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 7: because she's all, okay. 567 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: Okay, but I thank you for the call. There's something 568 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: there's something else here, Clay. 569 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: We saw him at the comparison with with Trump, and 570 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: by the way, we wanted to let the gentleman. First 571 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: of all, we appreciate him calling in and. 572 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: By the way, I like this, This is like what 573 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: we this is what is my family? Man? You should hear. 574 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: You should hear how my mom speaks to me if 575 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm being critical of Trump, I get I get the 576 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: law laid out on me. She's like, how dare you 577 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: look what he's done. I'm like, well, I just don't 578 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: like this one thing. So even among family, you're gonna 579 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: have some disagreements. I would just say this, Clay. The 580 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: point about the comparison to Trump that I was making 581 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: isn't these are similar guys or similar situations. It's just 582 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 1: proving the point that just bringing a charge in a 583 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: political realm, forget about everything else, can backfire politically in 584 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: a huge way. And that's why I think bringing a 585 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: specious charge against Waltz or Frey it's also immoral. I know, 586 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: I guess ethics, no one cares about it anymore, but 587 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: bringing a speed a clearly propri UST's charge just to 588 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: do it is a bad idea. Here is one that 589 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: I could give you for Fried, like, yes, I appreciate 590 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: the call. What I am saying is we're taking the 591 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: conversation above baanal generalities, charge them with crimes, and I'm saying, Okay, 592 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: what is this specific charge? I think you could potentially 593 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: and I look, go back and listen to the show, 594 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: or you like to say that word that way, I 595 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: think you're technically allowed to, but I prefer banal. 596 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: But anyway you like the. 597 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: Process based crimes, I think with the grand jury subpoenas, 598 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: they're potentially setting the table for process based charges when 599 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: there isn't a agreement to share documents that would be 600 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: potentially obstruction related. With the mayor of Minneapolis in particular, 601 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: I think Buck he may have given instructions to Minneapolis 602 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: Police as the mayor of the city, to not comply 603 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: with the instructions of the agents in Minneapolis, which could 604 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: set up a scenario where he is obstructing Ice from 605 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: being able to do their job, and they could potentially 606 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: charge him with crimes. There the whole sanctuary city element 607 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: in general, which I think it doesn't get talked about enough. 608 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: It's flagrantly unconstitutional. A city cannot, as a matter of 609 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: supremacy law, refuse to comply with federal law. Well give 610 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: picture charge that could apply across the board. Just one 611 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: thing here, you know, Lindsay Halligan, you're not hearing a 612 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: lot about her these days, and you're definitely not going 613 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: to hear her referred to as a US attorney because 614 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: now another judge has said you are not a lawfully 615 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: appointed US attorney and you cannot even use the title 616 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: and end of story. 617 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: They messed this thing up. 618 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: It's very the statute is very clear you have to 619 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: be appointed within a certain time or else it reverts 620 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: to I think a federal judge in that district makes 621 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: the makes the this is black letter law, and the 622 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: DJ just said no, we think we have the right 623 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: to do this. 624 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: The DJ is wrong. And now they just lost. 625 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, you might not care about this, 626 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: but she's the one who brought the charge against Komy 627 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: and because they lost in the because they lost with 628 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: her and letitious she got them both indicted. The reason 629 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: those indictments don't stand for Lindsay Howigan exactly. All the 630 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: flaw of the indictment, it's that they said she didn't 631 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: have the right to bring it. The indictment itself was fine. 632 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: It's the person who brought it because she's not a 633 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: lawfully appointed US attorney. And guess what she's not. 634 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: She's just not. 635 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to say it. I think she 636 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: and I love what she did with the because I 637 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: think those two should be prosecuted. But this is my point, Clay, 638 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: you have to do things in a way that's as 639 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: Linda would say, smart. You gotta be smart. You know, 640 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: if you're gonna waste them, you gotta be smart. That's 641 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: that's my that's my take on it. Where do you 642 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: look at You look at it like someone No, I've 643 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: got I've got my my whole sheet. I want to 644 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: go to break, but we got a bunch of callers. 645 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: I was just looking to see where the call right. 646 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: The callers, Well, the callers want a piece, they want 647 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: to throw down. They're putting on the brass knuckles. Let's go, 648 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: let's go team, It's go time, all right. 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Slash 662 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: Buck say fifty five percent. 663 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 5: Today cheap up with the biggest political comeback in world history. 664 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 5: On the Team forty seven podcast, Clay and Buck highlight 665 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 5: Trump free plays from the week Sundays at noon Eastern. 666 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 5: Find it on the Ieheart, a radio app, or wherever 667 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 5: you get your podcasts. 668 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Bucks. 669 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: Just want to tell any of your call any of 670 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: the callers that are on hold, or any of you 671 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: who's sending him talkbacks, if you're going to be mad, 672 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: be mad at play. Why it doesn't matter. The process 673 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: is the punishment and stuff. So let's let's get to 674 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: some of this here. We have, Oh boy, we have 675 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of people who are who are joining us 676 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: and who are in the mix. 677 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 2: And I'm saying that. 678 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: Mike and Las Vegas wants to talk to us about 679 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: Waltz in Minnesota. 680 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: What's going on? Mike? 681 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 4: Hey, guys, great show. Uh, Waltz was told by whistle 682 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 4: blowers told. 683 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 6: Waltz about the crime a long time ago, and he 684 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 6: ignored us. So he's concealing crimes. 685 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: But there have been thank you, There have been a 686 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: lot of charges brought in the Somali fraud case. And 687 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: being a moron is not necessarily a crime, unfortunately, So 688 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: I don't I don't find that to be a come 689 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: spelling argument. Again, do you think of all the members 690 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: of Congress we would have to frog march out of 691 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: their offices and cuffs if being a moron was criminal, 692 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: it would be it would be a long day. Steven Akron, 693 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: Ohio your case? What should be brought? 694 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 4: Hey, listen, guys, we've had the uh, We've had the 695 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 4: ability to let them have the audacity to march backwards 696 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 4: and do everything wrong. Okay, let's have the audacity to 697 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 4: do the right thing. 698 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: Okay. So what's the charge the. 699 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 4: Dynamics of humanity play out here? Okay, assault or not assault, 700 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 4: but theft aiding in a betting conspiracy to aid the 701 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 4: bet financial crimes. 702 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: Dig a little bit against against against Tim Walls. 703 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: But again, thank you for the call. You have to 704 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 2: show that Kim Walls could spell aiding in a betting. 705 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: Also, again, Tim Walls doesn't even own a home, so 706 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: you have to show in order for there to be charges, 707 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: you have to show some sort of tangible. 708 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: Act that he has done. 709 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: Now, if you want to argue with I did that, 710 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: sanctuary cities themselves are direct defiance of federal law. 711 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 2: I think that is a compelling case Potentially. 712 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: I argued that if you want to say, hey, he 713 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: was benefiting campaign finance funds from Minneapolis, fraud came into 714 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: his coffers, I think those are potential cases that could 715 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: be brought. But just saying hey, like he's a cheater. 716 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: And again, there has to be a tangible act. And 717 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: I thought Lindsay Halligan did a really good job getting 718 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: those indictments. Again, they found tangible criminal acts that they 719 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: got a grand jury to indict for. That's the challenge 720 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: right now, that's facing the DOJ tangibly what did they do? 721 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: But we didn't pay attention to the rules and it 722 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: all got thrown out.