WEBVTT - Drive Time: 2023 NFL Draft Preview, Offensive Line with Joe Marino 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:05.160 You were listening to the Miami Dolphins podcast Network. This 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.600 is Drivetime with Travis Whinfield. Back to throw to a 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:15.840 looking gips a fla water Dolphen touchdown, clerk kill, unbelievable, 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.200 just flue fire for the second time. Don where he 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.320 was going right away? Ahead of that the man I 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.120 want to help you soon up on his man away Wattle, 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.720 waddle to a shotgut back to throw looking that was 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:34.800 up fires touchdock again, it's waddle, It's six touchdown padown two. 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:40.960 Drivetime with Travis Winfield begins. Now let speck your pulse 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:45.000 if you're not part of what is up? Dolphins and 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.680 welcome to the Drivetime Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:53.519 podcast network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins. How's it 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.760 going everybody? I am your host, Travis Winfield. And on 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:00.200 today's show, the Positional Previews role on. We are going 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.400 to take a look at the trenches, the boys up 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.200 front on the offensive line, and as we do annually, 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.440 the Great Joe Marino on to talk about this position 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.720 group from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:16.759 Training Complex. This is the Drivetime Podcast. May Gaffe Fish 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.520 We're gonna jump right in today with my interview with 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.280 the great Joe Marino joining me now is a man 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.240 who needs no introduction here in these parts. He does 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.040 root for the wrong team, but he has the right 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.400 last name, My friend Joe Marino. Back again, Joe, How 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.320 are we doing, man, Travis. We've had enough conversation to 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.280 this point where I'm surprised you hadn't hit me with 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.680 that amazing introduction to this point. I mean, that was 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.680 that was well put together. I'm doing well, glad to 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.240 be on with you, and of course thank you for 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.600 having me well. The guy that I work close closest 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.400 with in the podcast here always tells me, you know, 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.400 if you're not getting better, you're getting worse. I guess 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:56.200 maybe the better introduction is a good a good example 0:01:56.240 --> 0:02:00.360 of progress here on the Drivetime podcast. But um, you know, 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.800 the master's wrapped last weekend and the trition like no other. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.760 I always have to ask you here dad life. We 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.440 both have kids at the same age and probably going 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:11.959 through some of the same things at these phases of fatherhood, 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.320 so I had to ask you, how's how's getting the 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.200 kid going in the mornings and just dad life in general. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.000 How you how you feeling in dad? Life is still amazing. 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.680 I can only imagine what things are like on your end. Um, 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.600 we're you know we we we uh, we're into our 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.240 three our age three season, you know what I mean 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.519 of being a human. So so that comes with some 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.840 unique challenges. UM definitely very interested in what she wears 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:38.799 every day. So there's you know, a little bit of 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.160 a struggle sometimes in the morning, but we keep her busy. Man. 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:45.000 She's involved in uh swim, in gymnastics and dance and 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.400 loves her preschool, so we keep her going. Um and 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.480 it's fun. She's got a lot of functionality. I think 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.600 there's probably at least five times a day where I 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.240 look at her and for completely different reasons, I say 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.760 to myself, I can't believe you're real. I can't believe 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.760 that you're real. But she's She's the joy of our life. 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.679 We're loving being parents over here, and I hope the 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:06.919 same is true for you. It absolutely is. I love 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.160 to hear those updates are the best. To me, that's 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.200 the best. We're doing the podcast here all day. But 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.600 the dress thing is funny because my little one always 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.480 wants to wear what she calls let It Go dresses 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.239 just because Elsa always has, you know, her nice dresses 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.480 on and Frozen and she she's obsessed with Frozen as 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.799 as most kids are. So yeah, man, and then like 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.640 also watching what we say, she's starting to pick up 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.120 on things that we say. Now it's it's getting out 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.680 of control, man. You know, it hit me this past 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.600 month or so, is you know, we're obviously all the 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.840 way into the weeds with Frozen. This movie came out 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.080 in twenty thirteen. Nobody, nobody told my daughter that it 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.040 was popular amongst the little girls her age. But it 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.400 just happens. I mean, for whatever reason that Disney has 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.280 built an absolute empire with that that movie, and it's 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.920 a big part of just about everything that happens here 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.360 in our house. Yeah, and there's so many movies that 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.920 they've put out recently that, you know, nothing measures up 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.680 to Frozen. I like to think a little bit of 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:00.720 Josh gadd has something to do with that big time 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.760 Dolphins fan here so they can shout out on the 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.200 podcast I All Off Cracks Meet Up. Even so, I'm 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:06.640 happy to watch that one over some of the other 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.200 options out there in the Disney Pixar universe. But that's 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.080 that's the update there. You know, a couple of dads 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.640 talking football here, and what better position groups talk about 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.440 with you than the offensive line. I think we made 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.480 a tradition now of three or four years in a 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.159 row here on the Draft Time podcast. Joe does great 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.440 work both with Lockdown NFL Scouting and the Lockdown Bills podcast. 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.240 And you know, I think the Bills obviously looking for 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.599 some offensive line help. They went aggressively in free agency 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.080 this year and got a couple of guys in McGovern 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.040 in Kestonberry. So but I think they'd probably still be 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.040 in the in the mix for for drafting that position 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.760 group up front, and I think the Dolphins probably are too, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:42.760 and most teams usually are. Right, it's a position group 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.800 that tends to I guess just have needs every single 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.680 year for five five positions up front on your team. 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.360 And I want to go ahead and start here because 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.159 I've looked at a few mocks and you know, done 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.560 my own work, and everyone has their opinions. Dolphins first 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.440 pick in this year's draft is number fifty one. If 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.520 you had to p what's your best guestiment on it? 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.120 How many players would you say? Four? Sure? A lot 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.720 across the offensive line, tackle, guard, center, doesn't matter. Would 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.840 you say, are first, You're going to be gone by 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.120 the time the Dolphins pick at fifty one. Yeah, I 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.640 think that's a great way for us to start the conversation. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.400 And like you mentioned, you know, offensive line needs are 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.880 pretty prevalent across the entire league, and it's really the 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.680 only position group where you have five starters, right like 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.120 everything else is you have a tight end or a 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.440 riding back. You got five of these offensive linemen, and 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.800 it's tough to get five good ones. And so I 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.320 think a lot of teams are in the market for 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.080 these players, and I think the good news for these 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.320 teams in need of offensive line help is that there's 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.960 help available in this draft. And so when I consider 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.440 who's definitely not going to be there at fifty one, 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:45.640 some of the names that come to mind for me 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.240 Paris Johnson, the tackle from Ohio State, Roderick Jones, the 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:53.560 tackle from Georgia, Darnel Right, the tackle from Tennessee, Peter 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.920 Scronsky out of Northwestern. I'd see those are definitely out 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.640 of the picture, those four guys, and then several guys 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.520 that are kind of fringe where you would not be 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:06.360 surprised if they were taken, but you'd also not be 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.480 surprised if they were available. But if I was a 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.440 Dolphins fan, I wouldn't be thinking about Paris Johnson, Broderick Jones, 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.800 Darnell Right or Peter Skanski. One of the things I 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.400 love that you and Kyle do so much is not 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.560 just a draft aspect of the game, but really what 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.160 I think the draft, you know breeds itself too, is 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.039 the team building aspect. And so with that you kind 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.479 of take a look at the draft from more nuanced 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.960 perspectives and not just like player A as good at X, 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.040 therefore you know player or team why should draft him? 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.600 Like you understand how draft boards work in how position 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.320 gluts and those types of things can just cause surprises 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.760 on draft night. So I was curious because you mentioned 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.880 those four names, and I was looking back at I 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:46.560 think it was the Bruce Felman mock, which I think 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:47.960 is one of the best ones out there every year 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.719 where he gets really good intel from scouts and coaches 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.200 across the league and in college football, and he was 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.640 talking about only having four offensive linemen the guys you 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.560 just mentioned in that group, and you know, thinking about 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.440 a handful of names that probably hear their name called 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.160 early on Day two or at the least at the 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.920 earliest or elist I should say, end of round two. 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.680 Does that tend to because there are so many guys 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.160 in that potential slot. Do you think you could see 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.200 a situation where teams are kind of coming up to 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.000 go get those tackles early in that Day two where 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.320 it seems like every year we have one position group 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.920 where teams trade up and knock it out really quickly. 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.280 Could you see that being the offensive line this year? 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:30.360 I certainly could. Like we've already established the need out 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:34.800 there is prevalent, and what's more important than protecting your 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.640 franchise quarterback? Right, And there's so many good young quarterbacks 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.520 across the NFL that teams probably feel a lot of 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.280 urgency to go out and get them the right mix 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.080 of players in front of them. And so if there's 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.080 a reduced list, and there is for every team, right, 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.440 we talk about all these players at large, but in reality, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.520 every team's going to have their different appetites for players 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.240 and scheme fits and personality fits, and so you know, 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:58.760 you might look at it and say, well, if you 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:00.440 get one of these fifteen players as you get a 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.920 starting offensive lineman, but probably for most teams that that's 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.040 probably cut in half, if not even further. And so 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.640 as you kind of foil all those dynamics together, you 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:13.440 can realize that the need, the urgency, the player pool 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.400 that's going to potentially lead to some some movement. And 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:21.040 I can see teams definitely wanting to make that choice 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:22.480 to move up the board to make sure that they 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.720 get a guy that they absolutely like that they feel 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.360 I can be an answer for them up front. I'd 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.080 be curiously what the Dolphins approaches come draft night because 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.599 only having the four draft picks, and you know, no 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.000 one's crying about spending a third round draft pick on 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.080 Jalen Ramsey. But you know, we spoke a little bit 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.480 off the air about the draft this year, and you know, 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.640 when we only have four picks, like that's that's less 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.280 work I got to do in the draft class getting 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.160 ready for because we don't we don't look at the top. 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.000 You know, twenty five or so players that you almost 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.040 can put a lock next to the names first round picks. 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:55.200 But in doing so, m you wonder do the Dolphins 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.480 target a move up? Do they decide to go back 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.839 and try to acquire more picks. I think it's a 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.679 a kind of a unique situation where they're at right now, 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.040 and with that mind and the potential to add competition 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.160 to the offensive line, which you know, Chris Greer has 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:11.400 mentioned doing this offseason to give some help to not 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.880 just to run Armstead Corner Williams and Robert Hunt, but 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.680 you know, Austin Jackson, Leah Eichenberg, a couple of high 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.800 draft picks in the last a couple of recent years 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.160 here and thinking about how this Dolphins system is is 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.440 prevalent across the league, you know, from the Shanahan tree 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.000 and obviously McVay and Lafleur, and there's so many influences 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.439 that come from this coaching tree. I'm curious who you 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.520 might have as potential fits that could be on the 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.599 board at pick fifty one in the essence of, you know, 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.640 firing off the football, playing a lot of that wide zone, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.200 but also having the gap schemes they incorporate as well. 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.720 It's pretty diverse. But as far as offensive line fits 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.760 that could be there at pick fifty one, who do 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.520 you like for Miami? I think there's three names that 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.880 really pop for me that I think would be terrific 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.080 picks for the Miami Dolphins. The first one is Matthew 0:09:56.120 --> 0:10:00.480 Bergh Run out of Syracuse six five eighteen pou thirty 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.559 three and three quarter inch arms. Very productive player at Syracuse, 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.839 and what I really like about him is how he 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:12.079 got better every single season and I love that ascending 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.800 nature of the caliber of play that he's delivered. And 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.199 I thought he was the best offensive lineman at the 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:20.480 Senior Bowl. And so you talk about kind of putting 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.560 an exclamation point on your film resume, I think burs 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.960 Roun's really done that. And what I love about him 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.199 as a player is just the body control and just 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.640 how good he is at staying square and playing within 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.920 himself and not getting over extended and really playing with 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.319 good bend and leverage. And there's just a very natural 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.160 understanding of that that you can see in the way 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.800 that Matthew burs Around plays. And you know, he was 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.040 tasked with so many good pass rushers at the Senior 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.160 Bowl and he clamped them all down. And I think 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.920 that just as a testament to how much he trusts 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.000 his technique, how technically refined he is. The body control, 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.720 the ability to frame and stay square. I think he's 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.880 just such a solid and if he was there at 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.760 fifty one, I would have no reservations about him being 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.400 my pick if I were the Miami Dolphins. Another offensive 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.360 tackle that I really like is to Want Jones out 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.679 of Ohio State. Now, he's a mountain of a man, 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:15.920 six eight, three hundred and seventy four pounds, unbelievable length. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.079 I've never seen length like this. We're talking about a 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.679 wingspan of eighty seven and seven eighth inches, thirty six 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:23.959 and three eighth inch arms. The guy's got eleven and 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.360 five eighth inch hands. I mean, this guy is an 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.319 absolute monster. And maybe you're wondering to yourself, well, does 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.240 that really work with a wide zone rushing offense. I 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.320 think it does, and I think the reason it does 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.600 is because of the length and how that really makes 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.319 up for anything that he's lacking athletically. And look for 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.800 a three hundred and seventy five pound dude that's six 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.440 to eight. He got good movement skills, right, So that's 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.559 that's definitely prevalent in his game. He's just obviously not 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.959 going to be super fleet of foot just because of 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.719 the mass and body composition. That he has, but what 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.520 he really does to maximize his length is special to 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.240 me in terms of being very deliberate with getting his 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.440 hands on guys, and his grip strength and his latch 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.880 strength is really really good, and that enables him to 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.599 sustain blocks. And obviously he's a powerful guy. And you 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.680 talk about widening those rush lanes and you know, given 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.280 giving those backs some room to work with, he's going 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.080 to be able to create that for you. And again 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.599 in pass protection, obviously a lot of quick setting in 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.960 the Dolphins offense, and you're not gonna you're not gonna 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.280 touch getting by Dwan Jones quick sets. But I think 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.400 even if you ask him to vert vertical set, which 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.120 of course with two in the play action game, and 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.160 how proficient he is with that and throwing the ball 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.720 down the field. You know, having guy like Dwan Jones 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.880 who is just so much to get around, I mean, 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.880 you want to elongate pats if you're an offensive lineman. 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.280 You want to make those paths to the quarterback longer 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.800 for pass rushers, and my goodness, can d Wand Jones 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.959 do that? And certainly in that Ohio State offense, he 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.800 was given the opportunity to really have to sustain in 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.640 pass protection quite a bit given the choice routes that 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.199 exist in that offense. And you know, certainly c J. 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.079 Straub was working the ball down the field as well, 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.760 And so I think that he's a really good fit, 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.240 especially because I feel like if the Dolphins can really 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.560 get that run game going, it can mean a ton 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.760 for their offense and how it evolves this coming season. 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.679 And I'll give you a player here on the interior 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.640 that I like. There's probably several that I like, but 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.840 a guy that really pops for me is Cody mock 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.319 out of North Dakota State. Played left tackle for North 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.079 Dakota State. I think he came there as a tight 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.840 end move to tackle, really good movement skills. I love 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:29.880 his range. So if you want to get a guy 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.319 out in space, working in longer polls, climbing to the 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.280 second level, he's very proficient at that. Obviously as a 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:39.120 former tackle, you like that projection inside as a pass blocker, 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.679 but I think the range in athleticism for him that 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.000 you see on tape would be a major asset to 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.040 what the Miami Dolphins want to accomplish on offense. So 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.240 I have follows for each of those guys, because you've 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.040 kind of got my intrigue on all three of them there. 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.199 And I want to go back to Dwan Jones because 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.320 you kind of touched on what my original follow up 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.800 was going to be on him with that idea that like, 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.760 just by nature of existing on the football field, he 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.160 makes it more difficult for pass rushers to get to 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.440 your quarterback because he's larger, Like it makes sense, bigger space, 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.400 Like you're occupying a bigger space, a bigger space. But 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:15.720 you mentioned, you know, the potential sacrifice and athletic ability, 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.640 which you know, I've we've heard that he does. You know, 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:20.640 he can come off the ball and play that way 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.480 in a certain sense. But you kind of have that 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.280 sacrifice like, is that is the idea of protecting a 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.640 potential blind side for two of who you know, only 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.120 quarterback in the league. You have to do that for 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.120 your right tackle protecting the blind side? Does that sacrifice 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:37.160 in the athleticism kind of? I guess intrigue coaches, because hey, 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.880 we can pretty much set forgetting pass pro like you 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.000 talk about with I don't know sixty percent of our 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.560 playbook that we have these quick sets in. Well, I 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.440 think his reach really mitigates some of your concerns. Obviously, 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.320 you wish that he had a little bit more explosiveness 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.320 and a little bit more foot fire to his game. 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.120 But that length is insane. I mean, it's rare. Eighty 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:03.320 seven in seven. I mean, what who else is even 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.720 close to that. I've been scouting players for a long time. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.360 I've never seen anything like that, And there's enough movement 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.160 skills to compliment it for me to feel good about 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.520 whatever variety of pass sets I want him to execute 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.400 or whatever run concepts I want him to execute. In 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.080 terms of working laterally, I think that his ability to 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:29.240 get hands on opponents really eases any concern that I 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.200 have about his movement skills. So you also mentioned Matthew 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.320 bergeron which I think we talked last. Last time we 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:35.720 talked to you had kind of brought his name us 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.200 a guy that you were really intrigued by. It sounds 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.920 like he's really proving himself throughout the process here. But 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.240 you talked about his body control and it kind of, 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.520 you know, piqued in my mind something that coach McDaniel 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.680 refers to a lot about sort of relearning and retraining 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.480 playing offensive line in this system compared to what other 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.640 systems ask of offensive lineman or maybe it's more reactive 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.640 and in this system you fire off the football and 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.800 you know, just getting off the ball first is the 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.320 most important thing with a guy like Burgeron or really 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.000 any of these rookies who maybe don't have this the 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.360 experience in this exact system. I'm not going to sit 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:07.880 here and tell you, I know with Syracuse and what 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.040 North Dakota State are running on a given week, But 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.680 is how do you kind of view that learning curve 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.600 for a rookie coming into this offensive system where they 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.240 coach him up a certain way. It Is it doable? 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:24.040 Is it tough? Like what do you think about that transition? Well, 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.600 it's obviously tough for any player and whether it's what 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.840 you're asked to do, but also who you're asked to 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:31.960 do it against. Right, I mean, rolling your hips into 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.920 contact and creating displacement in the run game in the 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.200 ACC is a whole lot different than in the AFC, Right, 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.800 So that's always going to be a challenge. But I 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.400 think for a player like Bergeron and you just kind 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.280 of leaning back into the talking point about just a 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.880 body control, I think that's going to serve him very well, 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.960 because I think he's plenty powerful to create that initial 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.000 surge and create some movement. But how he can fight 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:00.520 that pressure with pressure and absorb and still remain in 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.480 control of a rep I think is going to serve 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.000 him very very well when we're talking about him getting 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.120 on the field and making an impact for whatever team 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.600 actually drafts him. And then just real quick before our 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.639 first break here on Cody Mock. You mentioned the movement skills, 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.560 which obviously you know at peaks of a flag for 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:18.680 Dolphins fans in terms of like how they play on 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.240 this offensive line, But you talked about playing the interior 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.640 position after kind of playing some tackle in college as well. 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:25.520 Is he a guy that you think could kick out 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.320 to the tackle position as a pro. I think he's 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.639 get you out of a game type tackle. Where one 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.480 thing I loved about him at the Senior Bowl is 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.800 after being a college left tackle, he played all five spots. 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.640 He even snapped. He played right tackle, center, both guard spots, 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.880 and left tackle, And obviously versatility is huge. The more 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.159 you can do obviously matters a lot in the NFL. 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.480 But for a guy like Cody Mock, I think he's 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:53.640 gonna find his best success at left guard. But hey, look, 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.560 if you're in a situation where your tackle goes down 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.480 and you need to get out of a game, I 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.399 think he can absolutely hold his own and do that 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.040 for you. Well, either way, it sounds like Miami's gonna 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.480 have a pretty good group of players to choose from 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.800 at that spot should they choose to go in that direction. 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.640 And of course, doing these positional previews for every group, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.479 we're going to talk about this as if the Dolphins 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.959 we're going to make that move at that position at 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:16.360 that spot, but I want to do it for every 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.159 spot in the draft. And the next pick for the 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.800 Miami Dolphins comes up in the third round, number eighty one. 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:22.560 Before we get to that, let's go ahead and take 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.000 our first break right here. I've got Joe Marino on 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.400 the podcast here breaking down offensive lineman Drift Time Podcast, 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:34.640 your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Autoonation. Back 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.080 here on a draft preview edition of the Drivetime podcast, 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.760 the Great Joe Marino here helping us break down this 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.920 offensive line class and heading into the draft. I think 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.840 Dolphins fans, or at least on social media, which I 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.080 don't know, Joe, it's like six percent of the actual 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.920 community or the country that actually is on Twitter. So 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:55.400 who knows if it's accurate representation of what fans actually think, 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.600 But based upon Twitter and social fans are are pretty 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.000 excited about the potential of adding a new offensive lineman. 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.920