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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football manning look to

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Speaker 1: Jackle Jaguars? Did you go? Jaguars Drive Time? Brian Sex

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Speaker 1: steps John o jo Actually, Jaguars Drive Time starts right now.

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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome Jaguars Drive Time Thursday Morning, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by the Fields Auto Group. Changing some things

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Speaker 1: up on this Thursday morning. John Osier joins us, not

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Speaker 1: on his regular day, Reggie Hayward, which will join us

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Speaker 1: in the next block. That's because we have big news

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Speaker 1: to discuss. It is not going to be a boring show.

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Speaker 1: As most of you know. Last night, Tom Coughlin relieved

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Speaker 1: of his duties of executive vice president of football Operations.

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Speaker 1: We have Shad Kant's comments here. Con writes that he

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Speaker 1: determined at the beginning of the season that making this

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Speaker 1: decision would be best at the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: but with recent events, I decided it would be best

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Speaker 1: to make this decision now. Doug Morone and Dave Cobble

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Speaker 1: will report directly to Shod Khan for the next two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Shot has high expectations for the next two games and

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Speaker 1: season going forward, Guys, last night, what do you think initially? Well, well, actually,

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Speaker 1: just to clarify, um, like you miss spoken said beginning

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Speaker 1: content earlier this season at some point with the losing,

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Speaker 1: it made it sound like it was before the season

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Speaker 1: he decided. But Brian, I you know, I hate this

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Speaker 1: because you know, you and I have known Tom forever.

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Speaker 1: You know here, you're closer to than I am saying.

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Speaker 1: I know you have more thoughts on that. Uh, but

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Speaker 1: it it just sometimes things start to feel inevitable, ah endings,

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Speaker 1: especially when they're unwanted or often messy. This one was.

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Speaker 1: But by the time it happened last night, it felt

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Speaker 1: not if well, you know, quietly people around him that

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Speaker 1: you know, the losing probably contributed that to someone, But

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Speaker 1: just that this situation here, it was ready for a change,

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Speaker 1: And and now you're hearing those reports around the NFL

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Speaker 1: that con should have weighed because you can retire anyway.

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Speaker 1: And I think that the semino point is he con

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Speaker 1: place where players were going to be persecuted financially for

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Speaker 1: hate that it happened because I hate to see someone

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Speaker 1: than he's a good man who does good things in

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Speaker 1: the community and has been vilified the last couple of days.

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Speaker 1: The intense with him, as you know, we're always top

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Speaker 1: out right or wrong. That was his motivation. Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Well, but where we are right now is

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Speaker 1: it reached critical mass the last two days. And I

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Speaker 1: as well, as he says in his statement. And then

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Speaker 1: What was really a damning one yesterday was the ninety

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Speaker 1: seemed like something had to be done. Nine players without

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Speaker 1: you just can't make these things mandatory during the off season.

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00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: These people have families, they want to go home, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes like as a player, I want to get treated

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Speaker 1: by someone that isn't in this organization so I can

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Speaker 1: get honest. I want to honest troop about if I'm

433
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Speaker 1: injured or not, you know what I mean. Some because

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Speaker 1: sometimes you get doctors they tell you, hey, you're all

435
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Speaker 1: right when you're really not, or you at least want

436
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Speaker 1: the right to find out the second option. And sometimes,

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Speaker 1: you know, you want to spend some times with your

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Speaker 1: kid and your your your your wife and there in

439
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Speaker 1: another state, and this is my time to be around

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Speaker 1: my family. So if if Tom was that sort of

441
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: overarching issue in the locker room, and guys you know,

442
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: felt like they were walking on eggshells at all times, which,

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00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 1: by the way, Tom kind of like that. You know.

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Speaker 1: I can remember Vick Catchman who um Ben Coleman was

445
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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman who was here in the really days,

446
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Speaker 1: And Vick is interviewing Ben, not even interviewing. They're talking

447
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Speaker 1: as they're walking down the hall. There was a rule

448
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Speaker 1: against interviewing outside the locker room. And Tom walked by

449
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Speaker 1: and find Ben five thousand dollars for conduct detrimental for

450
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Speaker 1: violating the rules, and VIC went to Tom and said,

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Speaker 1: you can't do that. Don't do that. He won't talk

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Speaker 1: to me, and Tom said, hey, look, it's not a

453
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Speaker 1: nice game. I want these guys on edge. That was

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Speaker 1: his philosophy. He liked the edgenus part of it. Um.

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00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: And and that's that's kind of abusing your power. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can have a conversation, we can have a I

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Speaker 1: can be asking you how your family is, knowing how

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Speaker 1: your children doing that that's not an interview, no, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, So, I mean like Tom

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Speaker 1: thought that that's what he needed to do to win.

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Speaker 1: And when you have like I want to say, you

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Speaker 1: get into this like I have a a ritual or

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Speaker 1: I have some type. You know. This is what I

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Speaker 1: feel like the reason why we have successes because I

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Speaker 1: have everyone nervous and they go out and they perform well.

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Speaker 1: And it's hard to change that. Tom has never changed

467
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: anged who he is. And as a I don't think

468
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Speaker 1: it's a stress to say hall of fame coach, because

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be in the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame in the next five or six years. Um. He

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Speaker 1: didn't feel the need to what it turns out as

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Speaker 1: you look back on it was he wasn't the coach here,

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Speaker 1: but he that's all he is. He's a coach, much

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Speaker 1: like you know Bill Parcels didn't work out with the Dolphins,

475
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren didn't work out in that executive vice president

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Speaker 1: role with Browns. Um. There have been situations before where

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00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, coaches, coach, scouts, scout personnel. Guys do their job,

478
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 1: but when you try to take one and make him

479
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: the other, it doesn't work. The structure just didn't pan out.

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00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: It panned out for one year, um, but then fell apart.

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Speaker 1: Any The reality is you don't get in again. You've

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Speaker 1: known Tom longer and more intimately than I have, but

483
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: I don't think you get the super Bowl championships. I

484
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: don't think you get all this success without the other stuff.

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Speaker 1: With him, he was a hundred miles and hour pedal

486
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: believing what he believed. Now that doesn't make him right

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Speaker 1: and some of the things we're talking about, but he

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Speaker 1: wasn't gonna change his spots and it was who he was,

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Speaker 1: so it was almost like you had to take this

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Speaker 1: to get this. And there were times where this part

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00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: was great with Vince Lombardi. It worked here for six

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Speaker 1: years before. So um, I guess the kryptonite, the fatal

493
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Speaker 1: flaw syndrome. You know you win with it, winning with

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00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: a sword bible. Uh, that was it wasn't the right way,

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00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just go back. I mean

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Speaker 1: the trophy, the Lombardi trophies named after a guy that

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Speaker 1: most guys didn't like playing for now. Afterwards they came

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Speaker 1: back and like a lot of Tom's sayings from the

499
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Speaker 1: early era, came back and appreciated who he was and

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Speaker 1: what he meant. Um. But that style is there's only

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00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: one way. It's edgy. Uh, you're going to do it

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Speaker 1: his way. Remember his two championship seems in New York

503
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: were not the division winners. They weren't the best teams.

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00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: They were wild card teams. That one the first one

505
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: went on the road and one day beat Bread far

506
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Speaker 1: in the frigid cold in Green Bay. I mean, it's

507
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: they did things because, as you're right to point out,

508
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Speaker 1: because of the way that he coached. But I think

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00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: Reggie made a good point. When you're winning, it's endearing, yea,

510
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: and you can put up with it and it's quirky

511
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: it's fun when you're losing. It doesn't work. It doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like we all thought that he was He's

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00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: going to get lego at the end of season. I

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00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: just think the nfl p A just brought it up

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00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: a few days. That's it. It's not that surprising. Someone

516
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: was going. Someone's gone, right, So I'm going to be us. No, No,

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Speaker 1: they will see. We'll see if there are more that

518
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: are going or if they stay. That's the big question.

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00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean, do they do they let it all sit

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Speaker 1: on time or do they are they gonna you know,

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00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: is that knife gonna keep cutting? We shall see, all right,

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00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: when we come back, we go around the locker room.

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Speaker 1: Much more news on Tom Coughlin in the nfl p

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Speaker 1: and we go around the locker room from yesterday. It

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Speaker 1: is very honest locker room, very vocal locker room, especially

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Speaker 1: when we discussed the nfl PA news. Obviously we did

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Speaker 1: not know about the Tom Coughlin news yesterday in the

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Speaker 1: locker room, but we did speak to Doug Moron earlier

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Speaker 1: in the morning. He was asked about the grievances and

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Speaker 1: he said, for the next two weeks. I really can't

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Speaker 1: focus on that right now. Things happen at the end

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Speaker 1: and I have time to look into it and find it. Shoot,

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Speaker 1: you guys know, I'll stand up here, I'll answer all

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Speaker 1: your questions on it. But right now that that that's

572
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Speaker 1: not my focus. I'm trying to save, save, save everyone,

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Speaker 1: you know, the players on the coaches one of Dug

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Speaker 1: Maron's most honest, revealing, best press confidence I thought he's

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Speaker 1: had this entire season. I mean, he was putting a

576
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: very very difficult spot talking about these NFL PA news

577
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: when really he didn't have a lot to do with

578
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Speaker 1: it and had to answer every single one of those questions. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was terrific. I'm sorry. When you stay

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00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: true to yourself, it's easier to handle those situations. And Doug,

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00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: since he got here, I don't know how he was

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00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, but since he got here he has tried

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00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: to be as open and as honest and revealing without

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00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: being too sappy. But he hasn't tried to hide what's

585
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: going on who he is. And sometimes fans get sick

586
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: of it because he'll always sort of preface it by

587
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: saying the same things, and I can't speak to that,

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00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, but he is who he is, and he

589
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: was as honest as he could be yesterday. I think

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00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: he is for the most part, and it served him

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00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: well yesterday. I think he's a good NFL football coach.

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00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: I hope he's here. I think he's done a good

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Speaker 1: job handling a lot of weirdness this year, and I

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00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: thought he did a great job yesterday. Reggie, Yeah, I agree.

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00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean, when you gotta handle weirdness is not played football,

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00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: that puts a on your job. I mean, right there,

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00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: you can see he was much more relaxed, like, Okay,

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00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, I understand that. You know, this man lost

599
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: his job and that's terrible, but let's focus on football.

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00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: You know, I have some more games to win, and

601
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to build something special here and I'm

602
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: not gonna get sidetrack with a story of today that's

603
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: not going to be the story next week. And further,

604
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: we need to win some games. I need to, you know,

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00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: get these kids to understand that I'm trying to be

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00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: here with them and let's do this and let's worry

607
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: about that other stuff later. We can talk about that

608
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: in the off season. Well, and in the telling comment

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00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: there's I'm trying to save coaches and players, right. He

610
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: talked about protecting players, how he felt like his role

611
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: was to protect his team. I think you saw what

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00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: it means to him. Yeah, And he's not talking about

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Speaker 1: coaching him, He's talking about everyone under him. He gets

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Speaker 1: he I mean, he was gonna He's made a lot

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Speaker 1: of money. He's financially said, he didn't have to worry,

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Speaker 1: but there are people around him that he feels very

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00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: responsible for, which good coaches always to do. As an

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00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: ex player, he feels responsible for the kids too. He

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00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: knows he can't keep all of them, but the kids, say,

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Speaker 1: the kids that are playing for him, he feels responsible

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Speaker 1: to give him the best shot to be here to succeed.

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00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: That was sincere Dug Moron, would you use you what

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00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: we say? And I think one of the other things

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00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: that came from his press conference was what a difficult

625
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: situation he was in. Uh. He's not in charge of

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00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: the roster. Tom had all the personnel say uh, in

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00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: terms of anything that had anything to do with football.

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00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: He he didn't have that kind of control. So for him,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't finding players, he wasn't choosing the roster. He

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00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: always stood up and tried his best. You know, he

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00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: was the only one that talked about Jalen Ramsey when

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00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: that whole thing went down, and he handled that. And

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00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: and then yesterday he has to come out and talk

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00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: about the nflp A and he wasn't even the one

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00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: finding players. I thought he handled it with grace. I

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00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: thought he explained himself in his situation. And the part

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00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: that hit me, and the part that I'm always most

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00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: sensitive to at this time of the year, is fire

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Speaker 1: all the coaches, Fire all the right because we got

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Speaker 1: to we get to know these guys and their families.

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Speaker 1: And he said, genuinely, you could see it in his eyes.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to save everybody. And I felt good for you.

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Speaker 1: Keep going. Yeah. And I was talking to a few

644
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Speaker 1: of my family members way back and Thanksgiving, and I

645
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: think the impression is when you say fire everyone, you think, oh,

646
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Speaker 1: just the head coach, but you don't realize when you

647
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: say that, it's even more so. It's equipment in training,

648
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: in football ops and all these roles that go into

649
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: building a football team. It's so many jobs. And I

650
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: think it's almost endearing when you say just fire the

651
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Speaker 1: head coach. You don't understand how many jobs are affected

652
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: by that, not at all. Yeah, all right, so let's

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Speaker 1: go back to the locker room. There were kind of

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Speaker 1: two sides of the locker room yesterday. They were guys,

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Speaker 1: everyone was honest, But there were two sides of the

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Speaker 1: nfl p A discussion. Some guys were very honest saying

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Speaker 1: they didn't agree with it, and some guys said, like

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Speaker 1: a j can if you follow the rules, you're good.

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Speaker 1: Let stay out of tribal we won't get fine. I

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Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. You wanna get fine. Uh

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've been fine that I've been here,

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Speaker 1: but uh I haven't had a power way anything government.

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Speaker 1: Sho had a similar message in his press conference, saying,

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Speaker 1: I'm very tight with money. I'm not going to do

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Speaker 1: anything that gets even close to the line because I'm

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Speaker 1: not giving anyone my money. Yeah, well, you know you're

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Speaker 1: a gentleman. Here's the thing. I mean, the things that

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Speaker 1: they were fined over, like, are those really findable offenses?

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Speaker 1: And that's that's why we that's why you have to

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Speaker 1: according to the nfl p A exactly. So now you're saying, like,

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Speaker 1: follow the rules. Well, I don't have to follow up

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00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: made up rules. These rules were made up, so and

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Speaker 1: the amount of money that he found them, that's that's

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Speaker 1: the learning That one is alarming. Yeah, that's alarming. That's

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Speaker 1: a that's a huge chunk of money for But we

676
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Speaker 1: all recall that game and what a bad look that for.

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Speaker 1: But we all all show new because the fighting Buffalo

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Speaker 1: had triggered the ability for them to take away the

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Speaker 1: guarantee on his remaining money, and we all knew that

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Speaker 1: was gonna happen. So then why finding on top I mean,

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Speaker 1: she that comes off is vindictive and and at is

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Speaker 1: that look where all of a sudden, if I'm if

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Speaker 1: I'm shot, I have to say, all right, I gotta

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00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 1: do this right now because I can't have that become

685
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Speaker 1: the story tomorrow man, that I've got to get in

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Speaker 1: front of this one right there, and that I think

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Speaker 1: that that explains the conversation of why players don't show

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Speaker 1: loyalty to the organization that drafts them. And then you know,

689
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Speaker 1: fans are starting to understand that why has he leaving?

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Speaker 1: We were good to know You're starting to see that

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Speaker 1: ugly background where players like, look, I have to take

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Speaker 1: care of my family. I had to do what's best

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Speaker 1: for me. Now, the fans are really getting the dose up. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I see where the players are coming from, and this

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00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: is why they leave certain organizations. All right. So let's

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Speaker 1: wrap it up with Klais Campbell. He is the player

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Speaker 1: rep for the Jaguars. Whenever questions with player Association finds,

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00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: players go to Klais Campbell. So we definitely had to

699
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: hear from him on this. He knows it's a problem

700
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: all too well here in Jacksonville. I think the big

701
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: things is is that you know, the young are supposed

702
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Speaker 1: to protect the players and make sure the guys are

703
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know, just looked after and have a

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Speaker 1: place where you can you know, has some security and

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Speaker 1: so you know what I mean, getting the money back

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Speaker 1: and making sure you know, you know, the player is representative.

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00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: That's the that's the ideal go. You know. But for me,

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Speaker 1: I had a great time. You know, jack supp has

709
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: been a great place for me, great experience here, you know,

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Speaker 1: with the organization, you know, the front office, you know,

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Speaker 1: the coach of staff. For me, it's been a great

712
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Speaker 1: run for me. And also you know, I'm definitely happy

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Speaker 1: to be here. See to me, that's news. By the way,

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Speaker 1: it's news when the NFL p A rep says I

715
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: have a problem. Now he knows because he sees all

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Speaker 1: these things. But when the rep stands up for the franchise,

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Speaker 1: that's you're like, WHOA, okay, Well, guys who are here

718
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Speaker 1: all off season typically I haven't had a problem. And

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Speaker 1: there are guys who choose to stay intact, and that

720
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: is the kind of person most teams, But the rules

721
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: say that you don't have to be that guy. And

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Speaker 1: the for Net stuff, Um, I understand. And why Tom

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Speaker 1: find him after that, Uh, it was a terrible look

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Speaker 1: and I think it was conduct detrimental the way he

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Speaker 1: was behaving on the sidelines. If you remember, you know,

726
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Speaker 1: at the time when that happened, very few fans would

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Speaker 1: have said, yeah, Tom's wrong for finding him for that,

728
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: because it was. But as an executive, you sort of

729
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: have to know what we're talking about, how it looks

730
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: right now, and you're already taking away the guaranteed money

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Speaker 1: million dollars. But look, this is over that incident, and

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00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: it was a pretty bad look and for Net had

733
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: had over and over again, really bad. I guess I

734
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Speaker 1: understand the instinct but as an executive, you have to know. Okay,

735
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm just being mad. Now I can't actually go ahead

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Speaker 1: and find for this and as we have to have

737
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Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars, if you recall that that incident was bad,

738
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Speaker 1: I haven't forgotten it, but I'm making it on the

739
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: backside now where everything is a log on the fire.

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00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: And and by the way, fines aren't made public unless

741
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: players make me public. The team never says we find

742
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: so and so this amount and so and so that amount.

743
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: We would always hear about them because players would tell you,

744
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: um privately, I don't know. I just know that it's uh,

745
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: it's it's no surprise to any of us who have

746
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: been around You have known Tom for any like the

747
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: time that he wields the fine, because this was his army,

748
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: in his in his mindset, and unlike the military, where

749
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: if you disobey orders, you're going to jail. Uh, he

750
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: was able to use their money as a weapon to

751
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Speaker 1: keep them in line. But you can't do that anymore.

752
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 1: You and I were having a conversation, and you think

753
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: that the coach in Seattle has the right approach in

754
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: today's NFL. Yeah, Well, I basically was basically talking about

755
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: It's like Pete Carroll tries to have relationships with his

756
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: players and honesty is the best relationship. Tony Dungey hit

757
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: the same thing, like, I'm going to be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: If you're not going to be here, I would let

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00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, and and I'm not gonna find you

760
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Speaker 1: and continue to try to control you with fear. I'm

761
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you and can and let you

762
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: know that, Hey, um, you're helping this team, you're hurting

763
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 1: this team. We're gonna let you go or we're gonna

764
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: keep you instead of you walking around here on eggshells.

765
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm curious to see how much money Tom

766
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: has a mass with fans and is is there a

767
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: huge difference between him and other coaches or GM because

768
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, that's just me being curious. But I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want to be in a system where, if you know,

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Speaker 1: my suit didn't live up to the you know, standard

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Speaker 1: of the coach, I was gonna get fine. That's that's

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Speaker 1: you don't want to be around that type of environment.

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Speaker 1: No one wants that exactly. No one wants to just

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Speaker 1: walk around wondering if they're gonna get fine for talking

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Speaker 1: to someone in the hallway. That's not I should be

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Speaker 1: focused on football and who I'm going up against and

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Speaker 1: what you know I need to do to get the

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Speaker 1: job done. Right, That's all. That's all I should be

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Speaker 1: a little bit so far. Today. It's Tom Coughlin's comments

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Speaker 1: right after he was let go by the Jaguars, basically

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Speaker 1: applauding his time here, saying he appreciates the time here,

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Speaker 1: also noted there's still plenty of football left for me,

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Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, and you, Brian, you were saying that didn't

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Speaker 1: happen the last time this happened, right, I mean, we

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Speaker 1: all knew that Tom was going to go coach and

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Speaker 1: that you know, there were a couple of jobs that

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Speaker 1: he interviewed for UM. I don't know that that's the

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Speaker 1: But the statement from him about UM being grateful to

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Speaker 1: Mr Khan and proud of seventeen and supportive of the franchise.

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Speaker 1: They did not. We We never heard any of that

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Speaker 1: from him when he was let go in January two

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to leave angry and and

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Speaker 1: distance myself from I mean, he's not gonna be here. Um,

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Speaker 1: but he lives in Jacksonville, So I think that that

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00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,319
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Speaker 1: I'm glad for that because he's part of this community.

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Speaker 1: And look, his name is going to go up on

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Speaker 1: the wall. This team is pending three a f C

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Speaker 1: Championship games in its twenty five years, and he was

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Speaker 1: an instrumental party in all three. His name is going

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Speaker 1: on the wall. There's no doubt. Yeah, he's He's in

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Speaker 1: to the prospective series that I did this year for

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Speaker 1: the anniversary and I I have a scam likely coming through.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, go away. Um. He talks in great in

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Speaker 1: great detail, in that podcast about the process from getting

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Speaker 1: hired two, building the franchise, every person they had anything

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Speaker 1: to do with football he hired right. Every process that

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Speaker 1: was put in place for that early success he did

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Speaker 1: so right. Now, everybody's angry at Tom. Right. I joked

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Speaker 1: with someone today, choose the best restaurant in town? Right,

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Speaker 1: And there's Friday night, no tables available. There's one table

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Speaker 1: this night. And the CEO from g J. E. A.

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Speaker 1: Errands On who was dismissed this week, and Tom walk In,

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Speaker 1: who gets it right. I mean, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: anger in Jacksonville this week, and Tom is getting his

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Speaker 1: share of it. But in time that anger will abate

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Speaker 1: and his name will go on the wall and people

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Speaker 1: will remember all the good things he did for this

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Speaker 1: for Chris today, No way, no one wants to hear it.

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Speaker 1: You can't expect that. However, it needs to be said, right,

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Speaker 1: But that statement was just him being classic. No one

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Speaker 1: said Tom isn't classy. I mean, if you know him,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you know him, he's a he's a

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Speaker 1: great human being and you know he got fired and

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Speaker 1: he knows that's part of the business saying he takes

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Speaker 1: that with class and he's going to move forward, and

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Speaker 1: if he does anything with football, he wants to show that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm I'm professional and I have a

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Speaker 1: lot of class and you don't have to worry about

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Speaker 1: that aspect. And I do think it's a little different

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Speaker 1: because when he left the Giants it wasn't pretty, and

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Speaker 1: when he left Jared's first time wasn't pretty. Statement like this,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Brian. He's going to be in

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Speaker 1: the community. He's going to be associated with this, the

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Speaker 1: fabrick of this in Jacksonville, and I think I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that he wants that. Yeah, one more quick story. If

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Speaker 1: you go out this hallway and take a couple of rides,

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Speaker 1: there's pictures former players and Tom is hanging there. And

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Speaker 1: when things are really bad here in two thousand, two eleven,

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Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, I remember looking at going I miss him, right,

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Speaker 1: I miss him, a big smile on his faces on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines. And I think in time people will remember

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Speaker 1: that side of Tom Coughlin more than they'll remember this

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Speaker 1: little incident here. For everything that he meant. All right,

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Speaker 1: we were all staying tuned for this. The next top tweet,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's comments this week, he had two of them.

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Speaker 1: Didn't say much. First one to try to tell y'all yesterday,

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Speaker 1: eyes in a clothes, zipper over the mouth. Probably smart

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Speaker 1: on Jalen's part to not say much at all. Is

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Speaker 1: that saying nothing at all that really is yet? But

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Speaker 1: at least he's not typing paragraphs. Yes, yeah, she hads

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Speaker 1: a little light on him, gives him a little more

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Speaker 1: um his respect. Um. I mean, the way that he

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Speaker 1: handled things here was incredibly more less than desirable. But

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Speaker 1: now at least you maybe understand what was driving him

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Speaker 1: and you can see it from his perspective a little

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Speaker 1: bit for like, yeah, that's fair. And now we go

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Speaker 1: to Jeff Darlington's ESPN NFL reporter. He was here a

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Speaker 1: good amount during the two thousand and seventeen playoff front

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Speaker 1: and he went on Twitter and a couple of tweets,

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Speaker 1: almost six tweets, saying how he believes Maron and Codwell

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Speaker 1: should stay. He goes back to the two thousand seventeen

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Speaker 1: season saying how it was such a great accomplishment for

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Speaker 1: the two of them and basically staying to claim that

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Speaker 1: those two need to be here. He also had a

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Speaker 1: line in one of these tweets where he talked about

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Speaker 1: that was when early days, when Mr Khan's presence his

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Speaker 1: style was reflected more in the franchise. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was interesting, Yeah, because he was here a good deal

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Speaker 1: the two seventeen season. I think that letting Tom go

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Speaker 1: it's it's a big enough hit to the organization where

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Speaker 1: they can, you know, relax on the head coach and

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Speaker 1: the gym and and see if they can do something.

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Speaker 1: And if they give them two years, and if they

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Speaker 1: don't do anything in those two years, then you know

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Speaker 1: that maybe it's time for a change. But with with

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Speaker 1: Tom being gone and they're saying he was super control

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Speaker 1: and or what have you, let's see what you guys

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Speaker 1: can do now that you don't have that roll block

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Speaker 1: in a way. Do you think that if if this

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Speaker 1: was a cloud, if and we've looked, I don't don't

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Speaker 1: know what. You're just at a college a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: This is the first place you've worked. But we've all

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Speaker 1: probably worked in places with people bosses where just the culture,

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Speaker 1: the atmosphere was less than desirable. Right, you didn't feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable or you didn't feel like you could be your best.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's the case here. Um, but

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Speaker 1: if if players felt that way and you take that away,

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Speaker 1: reasonable to expect something on the field, to see something

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Speaker 1: on the field, or is that beyond well this team

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Speaker 1: play better. Um, we'll see, I mean that's I mean,

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Speaker 1: Tom isn't the reason why everyone's playing poorly. Some people

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Speaker 1: are just not good enough to play at this level.

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Speaker 1: They need to, you know, maybe be in a different position.

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Speaker 1: But we will see what Doug can do. And I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking next year we will see what he can do

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Speaker 1: with the people that he may have some some some

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Speaker 1: say so on bringing in here and how he wants

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Speaker 1: to control the personnel. And that's going to speak volumes

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Speaker 1: to how well he knows what he's doing and how

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Speaker 1: much influenced Tom had on on on the team. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see, we will see a lot of questions still

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Speaker 1: to be answered. That's yeah, yeah, shows all up until then.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks for watching Jaguars Drive Time this Thursday morning.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned to Jaguars Happy Are the Dug Round Show.

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Speaker 1: Later on this afternoon, dun Rones press conference live on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at eleven o'clock