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Speaker 1: This one Bills Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: How's everybody doing here on a Thursday. It's a wintery

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Speaker 2: day here in western New York. Ris PERHP Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you. Players are inside on the practice field as

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Speaker 2: it's maybe a little too blustery to really get anything done.

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Speaker 2: Snowed overnight here in Orchard Park, we presume because this

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Speaker 2: is usually zoom. This is the m O typically for

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Speaker 2: coach McDermott this time here. Friday practices are yousually outside

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Speaker 2: in the stadium to get the players accustomed to the

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Speaker 3: As you can tell, it's always that same kind of

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Speaker 3: balancing act. Is it so bad out you can't get

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Speaker 3: good work in? Therefore why have practice? Because you can't

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Speaker 3: really throw it, can't run it. Nobody can stand up

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Speaker 3: that kind of thing. Or come inside and practice get

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Speaker 3: good work done, but you're not getting used to the

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Speaker 3: elements that you can actually be playing in. Hard thing

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Speaker 3: to decide, I think it was. I think my philosophy me,

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Speaker 3: if I just may share it with you, get some

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Speaker 3: good practicing, go inside, get the work done, go through

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Speaker 3: the plays at full speed as much as you can

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Speaker 3: get a regular practice in where you can actually do something.

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Speaker 3: The weather takes care of itself, particularly when you're at

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Speaker 3: home in the weather because you live in it. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's not a shock to you. When the Dolphins come

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Speaker 3: up here and these other teams come up to Western

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Speaker 3: New York, they get off the plane, it slaps them

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Speaker 3: in the face. They don't know what to do. It's

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Speaker 3: it's shocking. It's not shocking for Bills players. Yeah, come out,

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Speaker 3: they come to work. Can Yeah, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: bad day at or I'll be ready for it. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: So I'm to me, it's better to stay inside, get

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Speaker 3: really good work where you can run, do stuff at

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Speaker 3: a high in a high level of intensity, and then

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Speaker 3: you know, get ready for the game. You go outside,

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Speaker 3: you're you're you're trying to survive practice and that's no

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Speaker 2: To me, fair enough. Yeah, and yeah, if the conditions

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Speaker 2: are such that you can't get things done now, that's

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Speaker 2: inhibiting your preparation for the week. So better off to

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Speaker 2: do them in conditions that are gonna work right and

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Speaker 2: go from there. So, yeah, I'm with you on that. Uh,

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Speaker 2: let's get to some of the Bills notes here as Uh,

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Speaker 2: there are some developments. Shall we say, first the stuff

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Speaker 2: regarding yesterday's practice. Bill's had three starters not practicing on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: to rel Bernard Joe He's Bosa, Joshua Palmer limited in

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Speaker 2: practice Wednesday, Spencer Brown, Dion Dawkins who remains in concussion protocol,

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Speaker 2: and Alton Kincaid, who I don't know if you noticed

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Speaker 2: on the injury report Steve now just doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: hamstring injury, but a knee injury as well. So an

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Speaker 2: extra ailment for Kincaid as his situation seems to be

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Speaker 2: finding it hard to improve. So we'll see what the

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Speaker 2: Thursday injury report reveals later this afternoon when it is

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Speaker 2: released by the Bills. Bills made a roster move late Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: but it appears it will be for naught. They claimed

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Speaker 2: veteran cornerback Darius Slay off waivers from Pittsburgh. The Steelers

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Speaker 2: released him when they signed veteran wide receiver Adam Thielen

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Speaker 2: to make room on the roster. But Slay, who turns

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Speaker 2: thirty five on New Year's Day, is apparently contemplating retirement

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Speaker 2: and according to his agent, wants to take some time

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Speaker 2: away from football and decide if he wants to keep playing,

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Speaker 2: so the thirteen year veteran, who has six Pro Bowls

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Speaker 2: on his resume and twenty eight career interceptions, is not

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Speaker 2: going to report to the Bills. He played in ten

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Speaker 2: games for Pittsburgh this season, making nine starts. To make

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Speaker 2: JaMarcus Ingram, so we'll see if they wait on Sleigh

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Speaker 2: to make this decision, which is supposedly gonna happen in

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Speaker 2: the next few days, or move in another direction, maybe

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Speaker 2: bring JaMarcus Ingram back on the roster. It's that's one

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Speaker 2: where you're like God, dang, like ah, You're trying to

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Speaker 2: make your team better in your eyes, you know, personnel wise,

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Speaker 2: and then you get this hullabaloo.

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Speaker 3: I you know, as an old guy, I get where

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Speaker 3: from scratch with another team, it just seems like a big,

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Speaker 3: you know, big job. I get it. How you need

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Speaker 3: even if it's not the bills, but it's yeah, and

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Speaker 3: for the team's part, any team's part. If he's not sure,

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Speaker 3: want to waste the energy, right, you know, it'd.

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Speaker 2: Be nice if he could have expressed that, though, well

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Speaker 2: he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't claim yeah, he didn't know. He doesn't know

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Speaker 3: until after it's done. And he probably had a hard

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Speaker 3: for what's going on and how he's feeling, how it's

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Speaker 3: gone for him, been talking to him off and on. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, heart to heart with people who care about you,

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Speaker 3: and you make a decision like that. So I get it.

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Speaker 3: I don't have anything against Darius Slave for that, not

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Speaker 2: We should note that the Philadelphia Eagles, for whom he

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Speaker 2: has played in the past also put in a waiver claim,

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Speaker 2: but they were further down in the order, so the

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Speaker 2: Bills were awarded the claim. If this guy says, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm only gonna sign with the Eagles. The Bills still

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Speaker 2: have his waiver claim rights. I believe that's how it works,

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Speaker 2: so right, if he has, if he decides, because apparently

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Speaker 2: know whether Sleigh is going to continue his playing career

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Speaker 2: with Buffalo or you know, retire, right, So we'll have

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Speaker 2: to wait and see what's going on there. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know, it's disappointing, you know, I think you're getting

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Speaker 2: saw some scouting reports on him, and obviously, at age

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Speaker 2: you know, it's not the Pro Bowl corner he once was,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think some degree. Yeah, I think when you

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Speaker 3: So maybe not all of it, but some of it

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Speaker 3: You want somebody who's you know, whose lights are on.

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Speaker 3: So he was. He was a good candidate for the

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Speaker 2: So we'll see the decision that he makes here in

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Speaker 2: the coming days, whether it's here or somewhere else, or

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Speaker 2: just retiring and going away. Let's go around the NFL

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Speaker 2: presented by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Bengals, saw t Higgins and running back Taj

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Speaker 2: Brooks return to practice on a limited basis. Higgins still

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Speaker 2: in concussion protocol as his Brooks, who's trying to emerge

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Speaker 2: from concussion protocol. Trey Hendrickson non participant, doubtful to play

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Speaker 2: on Sunday against the Bills. Thursday Night Football Tonight features

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Speaker 2: the Lions and the suddenly hot Cowboys, who have won

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Speaker 2: their last three in a row. Both Detroit and Dallas

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Speaker 2: are on the outside looking in at the NFC playoff

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Speaker 2: picture with seven and five and six five and one records, respectively.

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Speaker 2: Lions wide receiver Amanas Saint Brown not looking great to

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Speaker 2: play in tonight's game. I believe he's a game time decision,

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Speaker 2: but I'll have to double check on that. So that's

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Speaker 2: a big game for both of those teams. They're the

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Speaker 2: eight and nine seed right now in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: The Boys seem to be surging in the line, particularly

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Speaker 3: with aman Ross Saint Brown not in the lineup tonight.

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Speaker 3: If possibly, the lines have gone from a high expectations

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Speaker 2: And I'm we help two new coordinators. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 2: the injury bug like they did last year. They're one

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Speaker 2: of those teams that shares the same angst as Bills

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Speaker 2: fans because their players get hurt all the time too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I think that's that's a surprise for a

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Speaker 3: that's just you're right.

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason, Hey, you're playing that first or second

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Speaker 2: place schedule. Life's harder, as the Patriots will find out

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Speaker 2: next year. Yeah, in all likelihood, the Chiefs did not

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Speaker 2: With the Houston Texans top ranked defense coming to town

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Speaker 2: for Sunday Night football, Chiefs are gonna be without rookie

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Speaker 2: left tackle Josh Simmons, the team's first round pick, for

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Speaker 2: at least the next four games. Head coach Andy Reid

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Speaker 2: said that Simmons had surgery earlier this week to repair

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Speaker 2: force him to be placed on ir There's no way

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Speaker 2: that dude's coming back in four games.

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Speaker 3: No way. Well, he'd be playing with a club on

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Speaker 3: his on his left hand, or he can't play offensive

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Speaker 3: line like that, can't play left tackle, the guy, you

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Speaker 2: So that's going to be interesting. Meanwhile, the Chiefs could

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Speaker 2: also be without right tackle Juwan Taylor and right guard

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Speaker 2: Tray Smith for Sunday's game. They've been limited in practice

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Speaker 2: You don't want to be playing the Houston Texans without

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Speaker 2: your two starting tackles. Who are Simmons is a nice

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Speaker 2: this league. John Taylor, you can take it to leave it,

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Speaker 2: but you don't even have that guy, and you may

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Speaker 2: not have your Pro Bowl right guard against that crew,

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Speaker 3: Who Yeah, that's a game plan altering scenario for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: They've got to go in there thinking we've got to

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Speaker 3: we can't do this, we can't do that, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. There's a lot of things they're gonna

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Speaker 3: be limited in. And yeah, that just drops more on

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Speaker 3: the plate of Mahomes, which you know, which is okay,

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Speaker 3: I guess, because he's as good as there is, but

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Speaker 3: it's certainly.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be running for life.

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Speaker 3: It limits everything they do everything, So I mean that

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Speaker 3: game's inn aarroad, but unlike the Unlike the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 3: they're not playing the Pittsburgh Steelers who are smoking and

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Speaker 3: taking on water. They're Houston Texans lightning on defense.

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Speaker 2: We'll say this because I remember getting ready for the

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Speaker 2: the Texans defense on the road at Tennessee. Maybe this

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Speaker 2: Throw With those practice updates I provided on the Bills earlier,

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Speaker 3: It's it is.

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Speaker 3: It's a month defensive player four sundays away.

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Speaker 2: We're not the first person to believe that that's what

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Speaker 3: Eighty five, eighty two at the buzzer with a three pointer.

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Speaker 2: Right, A fun game to call. I like calling basketball games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because all of a sudden, you know, the Bengals

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Speaker 3: Lot, I was, I was looking through social they have

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Speaker 2: Can I put that on hold?

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Speaker 3: Right? Theoretically it's better for Bills if Houston loses this

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Speaker 3: It would put that, it would put both those teams

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of football left. There's too much five

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, I gotta start off with it's all about

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Speaker 3: front seven and run right at him. And as Brownie said,

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Speaker 3: their defensive tackles are big. They're heavy. One guy six

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Speaker 3: y five three thirty and the other one six one

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Speaker 3: three thirty. So they're heavy. So you may run at

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Speaker 3: them and bounce it if you're James Cook. But you

436
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 3: can bet the Bills are gonna do everything they can

437
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Speaker 3: to see how much the Cincinnati Bengals want to stop

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Speaker 3: the run for four quarters. I think if the only

439
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Speaker 3: thing that gets out of that is if the Bengals

440
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Speaker 3: come out and light it up real quick and get

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Speaker 3: them down, then you might have a problem sticking with

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Speaker 3: the run game. You're gonna have to get a lot

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Speaker 3: more efficient and a lot move the ball a lot faster,

444
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Speaker 3: and that means throwing it. So if that doesn't happen,

445
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Speaker 3: if this is a one possession game, for most of it.

446
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Speaker 3: You can bet the Bills are gonna run it more

447
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Speaker 3: than they throw it, and for a lot of reasons,

448
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Speaker 3: not just the football reason, but also the weather reasons.

449
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Speaker 3: That Tom said, that's it, man, that that's where the

450
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Speaker 3: game is. He's right. You can bet this Bills team

451
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Speaker 3: is gonna be gonna try and muscle up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Their nickel corner is Jalen Davis. He goes five, So

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Speaker 2: I'd run at him. I'd run at him. Why not.

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Speaker 3: Either he's gonna have to either he's gonna have to

455
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Speaker 3: bear up on a three hundred pound or he's gonna

456
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Speaker 3: have to run around the block. If you run around

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Speaker 3: the block at.

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Speaker 2: I like Jackson Hawes on Jalen Davis. That's right, that's

459
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Speaker 2: a win for Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

461
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Speaker 3: Hawes can and Hawes is just like an offensive lineman.

462
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Speaker 3: He can get he can root the guy out of there.

463
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Speaker 3: And so and so is Shavers and Gabe Davis and

464
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Speaker 3: and those guys for that matter. Those guys are really good.

465
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Speaker 3: They're digging out people, They're digging people out of that

466
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Speaker 3: the box. Yeah. So, and I think when they start

467
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Speaker 3: having games like they did last week against Pittsburgh, whether

468
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh struggling or not. It gives you confidence. Let's go right,

469
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Speaker 3: so they just keep doing it. We'll see, it'll be

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting to watch the Bill's offense run

471
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Speaker 3: and how Joe Brady chooses to attack this Cincinnati defense.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but we are gonna take

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Speaker 2: your phone calls when we come back. We're wide open

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Speaker 2: for callers on the other side of this break, so

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Speaker 2: we'll do that when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right

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Speaker 2: back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve.

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Speaker 3: Tasker with you.

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three oh five fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty those the numbers to join us

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Speaker 2: as we are asking you today, what do you believe

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Speaker 2: is going to be the difference making factor for a

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Speaker 2: Bill's win Sunday against the Bengals. To Rick in California, what's.

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Speaker 6: Up, Rick, Hey, good Buck, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: I think so much taking the call, sure, I believe.

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Speaker 6: First of all, before I get to that point there, Brownie,

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00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 6: I just want to say, first and foremost to thank

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00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 6: you to the Buffalo Bill for kicking the crap out

489
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Speaker 6: of Pittsburgh last week. I have a bunch of Steelers

490
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 6: buddies of mine that keep telling me Rogers is gonna

491
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 6: beat you guys with one hand, so watch that the

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Speaker 6: health like, so, thank god I don't have to live

493
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Speaker 6: through that, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So that being said, I believe the biggest factor for

496
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 6: this weekend for the Buffalo Bills is going to be

497
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Speaker 6: the kicking game. And I'll tell you why. I don't

498
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 6: know what it is with Buffalo Bills, but we always

499
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 6: seem to always have to bite our nails whenever a

500
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Speaker 6: kick comes up because I know Praterer. I also believe

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00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 6: Prater cost us the Houston game, you know. On that note,

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Speaker 6: but I just we never have the warm and fuzzies

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Speaker 6: whenever the kicker gets on the field. It's always a

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00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 6: hold your breath moment. And plus at the end of

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Speaker 6: the game, you know, if we do miss an extra

506
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 6: point or a field goal, it's most likely going to

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Speaker 6: be the factor because Buffalo normally he sit to a

508
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Speaker 6: one score game or less, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: So I believe the biggest difference in this game this

510
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 6: weekend will be the kicking game, and that's going to

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Speaker 6: be the result. But on that note too, I got

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Speaker 6: another question for you real quick, talking about the kicking game.

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Speaker 6: When we released matter Riza for his legal troubles back then,

514
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Speaker 6: how come we couldn't have put like a tangent on

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Speaker 6: him to once you clear your issues, everything's good, you're

516
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Speaker 6: coming back to the bills. How come he got circulated

517
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Speaker 6: and got picked up by the Chiefs, you know, and

518
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Speaker 6: I missed that guy. I kind of wanted him on

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Speaker 6: our team, But I don't know why we had to

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Speaker 6: release and knowing that he could be clear of his

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Speaker 6: troubles and he could be eligible to play again. Other

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Speaker 6: than that's all I got, guys with the bill.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Rick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the public pressure was intense.

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Speaker 2: Intense when he was here and he was facing those

526
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Speaker 2: charges in criminal court, not civil, and he maintained his innocence,

527
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Speaker 2: and you are innocent until you're proven guilty, and he

528
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: was proven correct and he was proven innocent. But the

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Speaker 2: public pressure, we were taking phone calls, I remember we

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Speaker 2: were taking phone calls here. How can you have matter

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Speaker 2: Rise on your roster with these kinds of allegations. Can't

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Speaker 2: have it, you know it. I think the pressure got

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Speaker 2: to a point where the Bills just went to Matter

534
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Speaker 2: Horizon and said, look, you've got legal stuff that you've

535
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Speaker 2: got to take care of. We're going to release you

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Speaker 2: here so you can focus on that and then we'll

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Speaker 2: revisit it after it moves to the court system. And

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Speaker 2: nobody touched him until the criminal case made its way

539
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Speaker 2: through the court system, and when he was found innocent,

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Speaker 2: he started trying out again. I know the Bill, I

541
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Speaker 2: know the Bills had kept in contact with him, but

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Speaker 2: I think he believed he needed a fresh start elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: Right, And it all happened. If you remember, the Bills

544
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: were going down to play Caroline in the preseason. The

545
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: story broke while they were in the air, and the

546
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Speaker 3: club landed literally to a firestorm of public scrutiny and outrage.

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Speaker 3: So they were like, yeah, it was intense, we don't

548
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Speaker 3: need this right now. And plus it's not like the

549
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Speaker 3: guy was I don't want to make light of it.

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Speaker 3: It's not like he was a first round draft pick, quarterback,

551
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Speaker 3: franchise guy. He's a punter and the Bills have been

552
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Speaker 3: through three punters this year already. You can make it,

553
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Speaker 3: you know, go back and say, wow, Mattter, rise of

554
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: mind have made a difference. But here's that's the story

555
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Speaker 3: of it. They're interchangeable. It's not like, you know, there

556
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: are good ones and bad ones, no question about it.

557
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Speaker 3: But you see the point. So the Bills didn't need

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Speaker 3: that kind of headache headed into a season, and they

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Speaker 3: just said, listen, we don't have time for this. And

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Speaker 3: it wasn't fair to Matt obviously because he was found innocent.

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Speaker 3: But that's the reality of it. Yea.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you like the kicking game being a factor.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't look like weather is going to be a

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Speaker 2: factor to impact the kicking game on Sunday. It's just

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Speaker 2: supposed to be overcast. I don't believe there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of wind. It will be cold, so the ball probably

567
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: won't travel as far, but as far as affecting the

568
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Speaker 2: ball when it's in flight, doesn't look like wind is

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Speaker 2: going to be a factor on Sunday. And as we

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Speaker 2: know the you know, the kickers are pretty comparable. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Prater is seventeen of nineteen on field goals. McPherson I

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Speaker 2: think has only missed two or three. He's twenty three

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Speaker 2: or twenty six. McPherson has been perfect on extra points,

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Speaker 2: but he's had fewer of them. And as we know,

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Speaker 2: Praterer has missed three, he's thirty four to thirty seven

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Speaker 2: on extra points. So take that for what it's worth.

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Speaker 2: To John and Pennsylvania X.

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Speaker 1: What's up John, Hey guys, pleasure talking to you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I come up once a week for business.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to get on. So I might be hitting

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Speaker 1: something from the pass too.

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Speaker 7: That I maybe didn't hear.

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Speaker 1: But I think the key to this game, or any game,

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Speaker 1: is keeping the easy stuff easy.

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Speaker 7: I hear the coaches often talking about it's hard to

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Speaker 7: win in this.

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Speaker 1: League, and you know that it is. Steve knows that

588
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Speaker 1: it is with his.

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Speaker 7: History and stuff, but we don't.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to me like we make the easy

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Speaker 1: things easy.

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Speaker 7: And when I look at the Patriots today, it's almost

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Speaker 7: like they're when they're playing when Brady played, when when

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Speaker 7: they need to move the sticks, they need they move

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Speaker 7: the sticks. And sometimes I think when we on second down,

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Speaker 7: when the second short, I mean real short, sometimes we

597
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Speaker 7: rush to the Sometimes we rush to the line uh

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Speaker 7: and get a playoff and do a quarterback sneak without

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Speaker 7: any tush push. And other times we're taking our time

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Speaker 7: and we should take a quarterback sneak that's available just

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Speaker 7: to move the sticks. And on short yardage routes, I

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Speaker 7: think we make them too difficult. I was listening to

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Speaker 7: the Patriots and Jets a couple thursdays go, and whoever

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Speaker 7: was doing the game said, Rabel told them, if you

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Speaker 7: want to go for the fourth down, don't even look

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Speaker 7: over at me. He trusts them, and I don't feel

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Speaker 7: like they give enough power to Josh because we know,

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Speaker 7: even with the Houston game when he said he should

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Speaker 7: fall time out, maybe after the fact either do that

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Speaker 7: or if you look at the aerial view, he could

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Speaker 7: have quarterbacks sneak because there was no one in the gap.

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Speaker 7: So I just wonder how you guys feel about making

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Speaker 7: the easy things easy, because for sure the hard things

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Speaker 7: are hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like you. I like your point, and

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Speaker 3: there's something to be said for that. And we've seen

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Speaker 3: and Josh is admitted to it, where you'll pass up

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Speaker 3: open guys hoping he gets a bigger play. And certainly

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Speaker 3: you see other teams in New England's one of them.

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Speaker 3: You see other teams where the guy always just just

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Speaker 3: check it down, And of course you know it comes

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Speaker 3: with criticism as well, if you continue to check it down,

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Speaker 3: check it down, check it down pretty soon your Kirk cousins,

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Speaker 3: you know, and that's not going to be good enough.

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00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: But I'm with you, simple as better. You don't need

626
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: to overcomplicate things that don't need to be and take

627
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: what's there. I'm Josh has got the highest completion percentage

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Speaker 3: of his career this year, so he's doing something right,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of things right.

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Speaker 4: But I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I don't I hope Josh doesn't pass up any open

632
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Speaker 3: guys this Sunday. Even if he does, something does come

633
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: open later after he's already release the ball, just take it,

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00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: stay on the field, move the change like you said,

635
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: and finish with a touchdown. I think this is a

636
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: really tough team to beat in Buffalo. I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: because when they do move the ball well, when they

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00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: get down in the red zone. The key to having

639
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 3: a good red zone offense is the other team knowing

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Speaker 3: you can run it. If you can run it in

641
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: the red zone, that opens up everything. And it's a

642
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: real problem because you don't have any room to give

643
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: up any more field when they're down close. And so

644
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: if the Bill's ability to run it not only with

645
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: James Cook of course and Ty Johnson, but Josh, they're

646
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 3: a real problem in the red zone. So if the

647
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 3: Bills can just stay on the field, Josh, take what's

648
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Speaker 3: take what they're giving. And you know, you don't need

649
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 3: to snap off eighty yarders in this game, but you

650
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: do need the football and you do need to finish

651
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 3: with touchdowns. And I think what you said, John from

652
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania is right. Don't over complicate something that doesn't need

653
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Speaker 3: to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, let's go to Bill in Texas next. What's

655
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Speaker 2: up Bill?

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Speaker 8: Good afternoon, gentlemen.

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Speaker 9: How are you today?

658
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: All right? All right?

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Speaker 8: My thing is for this game, they better get some

660
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 8: pressure on Joe Brady because I'm sorry Joe Burrow. If

661
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 8: they don't get pressure on Burrow, he's gonna sit back

662
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 8: there and eats you alive. With those receivers in that

663
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 8: tight end, and I don't think we have the receivers.

664
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Speaker 8: If Salton Kink don't play to keep up with them,

665
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 8: I just don't see it happening. We've got to get

666
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 8: pressure on that quarterback. We haven't done it in a while. Really,

667
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 8: we really got to do that. And then second thing

668
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 8: is I need Josh Allen to go back, make his

669
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 8: reads and throw the ball. If the first guy's open,

670
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 8: you throw the ball to him. If the second guy's open,

671
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Speaker 8: you throw the ball to him.

672
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: You don't wait.

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00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 8: Around and try and make a play. It's great when

674
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 8: it happens, but the likelihood, the likelihood of that happening

675
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 8: often isn't very good. And those guys making those routes

676
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 8: and getting open or doing their job, give them the

677
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Speaker 8: ball when they.

678
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Speaker 5: Do their job, and that's all.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, sir, having day.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Bill, You're right, you can't live that way. You

681
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: can't live by the hero play in a gotta have

682
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: it situation. You can make it great, but that's not

683
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: a way to live down in down out series in

684
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: series out play within the structure of the offense. It's

685
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: designed to give you built in answers, and there have

686
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: been more than enough examples where that is happened. So yeah,

687
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: I would agree, stick to that and hopefully it works.

688
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a defense that has a lot

689
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: of trouble stopping people. They have given up more yards

690
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: after the catch than any other team in the league,

691
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: almost two thousand yards after the catch alone in twelve games.

692
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 2: And it's like one hundred and sixty two yards after

693
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: the catch per game. This Cincinnati defense gives up, so

694
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: there are going to be plays to be made. If

695
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: you just play within the structure of the offense, you

696
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: will not have to do a whole lot special to

697
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: make plays and move the ball against this defense. Right,

698
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: let's go to Gary on a sale next. What's up Gary?

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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, I'll do them good and good. I got

700
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 10: two things, obviously, the winning games. Troll o'clock. You can't

701
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 10: let them just go up and down the stield wet a.

702
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 10: We got a hog clock. I see you win this game.

703
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 10: But all right, guy's question about Davis Ray Davis the

704
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 10: running back. He seems to me to be a multi

705
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Speaker 10: carrier running back. You know, it's not like cook and

706
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Speaker 10: take anything you can go. You know, he can take

707
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Speaker 10: one care and go to business. My thing is like

708
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 10: the development on Davis. I've always felt, especially this year

709
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Speaker 10: more last year, that they weren't developing him. I don't

710
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Speaker 10: know if you guys know it's that or felt the

711
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 10: same way. I was really good to see him get

712
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 10: multiple carried last week. And he is a bruising running

713
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Speaker 10: back that really obsessed Davis in my Cook really well,

714
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Speaker 10: and I'm just happy to see him getting more attamps.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's encouraging for sure, Gary, especially because you know

717
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: you've got to pace Cook here so he's still at

718
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Speaker 2: his best come the postseason when you really do need him.

719
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Speaker 2: You don't want to wear him out in a seventeen

720
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 2: game regular season. So I would anticipate, provided the games

721
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: going the way they needed to they're up on the scoreboard,

722
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Speaker 2: for example, that Ray Davis will be worked in more

723
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Speaker 2: similar to the way we saw him worked in last week.

724
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Speaker 2: I mean, Cook gout his most carries of the season

725
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Speaker 2: last week thirty two, so you needed Davis to come

726
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Speaker 2: in and give him a break. And I think Ray

727
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: is most effective when he is just coming downhill. When

728
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 2: he tries to bounce runs outside, he rarely gets the

729
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: corner rarely. He's just not as shifty and as quick

730
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Speaker 2: twitch as Cook is with change of direction and side

731
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: to side movement. I think he's best when he's got

732
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Speaker 2: his pads pointing north and south and he's coming downhill

733
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Speaker 2: with the head of steam. That is him at his best.

734
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Speaker 2: And hopefully when he's in the game, they continue to

735
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Speaker 2: call run plays like that because I think it will

736
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Speaker 2: be beneficial not only for him, but obviously for the

737
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Speaker 2: offense staying on schedule.

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Speaker 3: And it's a always talk about you know, there's always

739
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 3: two sides of the story. On two sides, two edges

740
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Speaker 3: of the same sword of double edged sword. Yeah, Ray

741
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: Davis would you'd love to have him develop, But every

742
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: time you give him the ball, you're taking it out

743
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Speaker 3: of the hands of James Cook or Josh Allen. It's

744
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Speaker 3: a difficult battance to strike. Certainly, you want to keep

745
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: James Cook healthy and one hundred percent going in late

746
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Speaker 3: in the season, and the more you can give Ray

747
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Speaker 3: Davis those kind of touches awesome, Ty Johnson, same thing.

748
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Speaker 3: You've got to make sure you need all three of

749
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Speaker 3: those guys to stay healthy. But you know it's yes,

750
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: development is important to every player. A lot of that

751
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: falls on the player, not so much play calling and

752
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: the offense and that kind of thing. Ray's gonna get

753
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: opportunities on the fifty three man, he's gonna have some chances.

754
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 3: He's helping him in the return game. All of that

755
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: stuff is in there and it all contributes to his development.

756
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Speaker 3: But you're given the guys touches where they need to

757
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: give him touches to win games and keep the offense

758
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Speaker 3: on the field and do all that. Yes, you'd love

759
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 3: to see Ray get developed and get better and better,

760
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 3: but it's about winning the game at hand, and that's

761
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Speaker 3: why the development happens in practice. Yeah, so I get

762
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: what you're saying. You're right, but yeah, every time you

763
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: give Ray a touch, you're taking it away from one

764
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Speaker 3: of the other players as well.

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Speaker 2: So break time for us here, more of your phone calls.

766
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Speaker 2: On the other side, what will be the difference making

767
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: factor for a Bills win Sunday against the Bengals. More

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Speaker 2: of your phone calls at eight h three h five

769
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Speaker 2: fifty when we get back here on one. Bill's Live

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00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 2: I have a fifty eight yards on the ground last week,

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00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: a season low, and Shaq Thompson running that defense. It

775
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: looked pretty good against the run, probably their best gap integrity,

776
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: best tackling game. Certainly, hope that continue is against a

777
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: Bengals team that runs more than you might think. Everybody

778
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: thinks it's about Burrow and Chase and Higgins, and it

779
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 2: is to a great degree, but they ran the ball

780
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: thirty three times last week against the Ravens. Chase Brown's

781
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: a good back and he's a home run threat too, right,

782
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Speaker 2: So that run defense has got to keep on keeping on.

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Speaker 3: If their defense was even middle of the road, they

784
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: would be they would be a juggernaut. I mean, cause

785
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: this offense is elite. It really is. There's no two

786
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Speaker 3: ways about it. With Joe Burrow and those two receivers

787
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: and their running game, this offense is as good as

788
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Speaker 3: any in the league. And you got to prepare like that.

789
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: You got to have a plan. So on the other

790
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: side of it, their defense is not Their defense is

791
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Speaker 3: last in the league, and a lot of statistics that

792
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: goes into your game plan, but the recipe is there

793
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: to be had and you've got to make it work.

794
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 3: You've got to have a plan for this offense offensively.

795
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: There's no excuse for the Bills going in there and

796
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 3: falling all over themselves. There just isn't you know, doubt Cincinnati.

797
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, Cincinnati did a pretty good job against

798
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Speaker 3: the Ravens. Run game last weekend, so they're not bereft

799
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Speaker 3: of talent.

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Speaker 2: And they're getting better. They've got two rookies at linebacker

801
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 2: and they're kind of learning on the job, but they've

802
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: been doing it for about six seven weeks now and

803
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 2: they're getting the hang of things. So their run defense

804
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: has improved in recent weeks. We had ESPN Bengals beat

805
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: reporter Ben baby on he confirmed that for US, so

806
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 2: that is taking place cooling down the Bill's pass rush.

807
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: Joey Bosa not practicing again today and it's not looking

808
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: good for him playing this week. And now, based on

809
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: our eyes and ears at practice, there's another defensive end

810
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: not practicing today. It's a j Epenessa. He was seen

811
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: at practice, but he was not dressed for practice. He

812
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: was observing on the sidelines. So Buffalo's pass rush could

813
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: be a little short handed. Maybe we see Morgan Fox

814
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: get brought up from the practice squad this week, a

815
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Speaker 2: veteran player.

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Speaker 3: They got to do something. They don't have enough bodies

817
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: and you know so be cause.

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Speaker 2: You're you're down to Rousseau Solomon. I Meanessa was in

819
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Speaker 2: street clothes. Epessa is not practicing and Bosa is not practicing.

820
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Speaker 2: You only got two healthy defensive ends. If we're assuming

821
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: that Epinessa has an injury.

822
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: Solomon has been active.

823
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: Solomon and Rousseau those are only healthy guys.

824
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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the guy who has been out there

825
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 3: and it won't be new to him to be out there.

826
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Speaker 3: But Morgan Fox, I.

827
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Speaker 2: Mean Morgan Fox on the practice squad, as well as

828
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Speaker 2: Shaq Lawson who just got here last week. I mean

829
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Speaker 2: that's what you're working with. So yeah, I think it's

830
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Speaker 2: a given that Morgan Fox is going to be up

831
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Speaker 2: this week at the very least, depending on how epinsm

832
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: makes it through the rest of the week.

833
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, and you're Cincinnati sees that too.

834
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Speaker 2: The good news is Dion Dawkins out there practicing and

835
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: he was not in a red non contact jersey, so

836
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 2: that means he has moved to step four of the

837
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Speaker 2: five step return to play protocol. So he's got a

838
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: chance tomorrow Saturday to gain full medical clearance. So if

839
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Speaker 2: he practices Friday, tomorrow and Saturday, I said, oh tomorrow

840
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Speaker 2: on Saturday, Yeah, so he's got a chance to get

841
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 2: full medical clearance. Being this far along in the return

842
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 2: to play protocol. Back to the phones and to John

843
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: and Tonawanda.

844
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Speaker 11: What's up, John, Yeah, I just got a couple of

845
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 11: questions in one comment, I think the game this weekend

846
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 11: is gonna well, it's going to be either play calling

847
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 11: on both sides of the bills or it's going to

848
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 11: be turnovers. Whoever wins that battle's going to win the game.

849
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 11: Now for my comment, I've noticed over the past several

850
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 11: years all these wide receivers making these surface circus catches

851
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 11: and one handed grabs upside down, this and that. And

852
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 11: I know years ago that you see use stick them,

853
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 11: which nobody uses anymore.

854
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: It's illegal.

855
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 11: But is there something especially done to the gloves that

856
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 11: they're wearing. Yes, I'll hang up and listen to your

857
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 11: thanks for thanks.

858
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, John, there is. The gloves they have now are

859
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: made out of stuff that is sticky all the time,

860
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: and it's extra tacky. It's always tacky. It's not a

861
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 3: stick them that they put on it. It's a material

862
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: that stays, particularly in the surface of a football. That's

863
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: how they can make these catches now, and it helps.

864
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: That's why you'll see guys now to carrying the ball,

865
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 3: not too often, but carrying the ball one handed because

866
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: it's so the gloves make it so easy to carry

867
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: the football that they don't feel it it's at risk.

868
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 3: It feels so secure in their hand, so they'll swinging

869
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 3: around a little bit. Particularly defensive guys when they make

870
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 3: an interception or fumble recovery. They don't talk it away,

871
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 3: They just carry it because it feels so good. So yeah,

872
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: that's why. Part of the reason that guys can make

873
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: the catches you see these days were in decades past

874
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: it was impossible to do.

875
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: We are up against the break here, so we have

876
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: to step aside, but we will take more phone calls

877
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 2: in our number two. Quick little side note here before

878
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: we take a break. It looks like the league has

879
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 2: made a decision on playing surfaces. They are implementing a

880
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: program starting next year where for all clubs they have

881
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: to pick any new field surface from a list of

882
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: approved accredited NFL fields. That according to a league spokesperson

883
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: who said, anyone who has an existing field will have

884
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: to replace that field by the end of the twenty

885
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 2: twenty seven season. Obviously, this doesn't apply to the Bills

886
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: because they're moving into a new stadium with a new field,

887
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: so and it's gonna be natural. Ressress yeah, which is

888
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: obviously an approved plane.

889
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: So there will be a huge industry wide race to

890
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: get their fields and all these artificial fields accredited by

891
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: the NFL.

892
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: Well, I think we know the one in Cincinnati is

893
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: not a great field. Surfaced life hasn't been replaced in years.

894
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: Medlife comes under a lot of scrutiny.

895
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: I'd like to know what they're gonna do with the

896
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 3: international fields. Yeah, that's because those will have to those.

897
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that field in Tottenham Hotspur Stadium two

898
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: years ago. Awful. It's awful.

899
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: So, yeah, there's a lot in this. It's not just

900
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: saying asking and all the stadiums will change over. Some

901
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: of them will, obviously, but and a lot of the

902
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: surfaces get replaced more often than we might give them

903
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: credit for. But there'll be an industry wide race to

904
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: make sure they've got at least one of their surfaces

905
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: if they sell more than one variety all of them.

906
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, every team must be compliant by the end of

907
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. Gotta take a break here. Our number

908
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: two gonna begin with the Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas

909
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: gonna join us here in studio. When we get back

910
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo

911
00:49:19,760 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: Bills Radio. These one Bills Live presented by KLIA Health.

912
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two on a

913
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: Thursday and joining us in studio as the Hall of

914
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: Famer Thurman Thomas them good to see it.

915
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: The Bills set a visiting team record for rushing yards

916
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 3: in Actressure Sure Stadium. Your thoughts.

917
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 4: Should have been setting records all year long, whatever, man,

918
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, exactly. Man, Hey, I'm happy for him,

919
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 4: but you know what, I'm probably gonna need two hundred

920
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: and fifty this week, two fifty to keep sitting at

921
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 4: his office off the field.

922
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so I sent your game plan already

923
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: formulated pretty much.

924
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: It really doesn't deviate, really, it really doesn't.

925
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy's almost I mean it's but he's

926
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: on pace for what fifteen sixteen hundred yards and people

927
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 4: were at the beginning of this season talking about, oh,

928
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 4: we're wearing him out. Yeah, right, man, you got the

929
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 4: number one offensive line in the league, number one rushing

930
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 4: team in the league with MVP quarterback.

931
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: Man, let's go, he's fifty six yards behind Jonathan Taylor. Now, yeah,

932
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: the rushing league Oh, you can catch him easy, you

933
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 2: can him well. And with Daniel Jones GIMPI you would

934
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: think more teams could load the box on Taylor going

935
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: forward here to some degree, maybe not all the time,

936
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: but more of the time, which would make it harder

937
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: on Taylor. And they've got some tough games coming up too.

938
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 3: He's rushed for one hundred yards in four out of

939
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 3: the last.

940
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: Six yeah, seven total, which leads the league. Seven one

941
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: hundred yard rushing games, leads the league. And he's averaging

942
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: five point three carry.

943
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 4: That's the amazing stat right there. Five point three that's

944
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 4: a big number. That's a big number. Yeah.

945
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 12: I mean that's never seen a Barrett Sanders type here.

946
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

947
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: I think the CJ. Spiller has the team record of

948
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: six right. He did that in twenty twelve when he

949
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: had his big year here and that was really it

950
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: from him. And I think OJ might have a couple

951
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: that are up there on the list, But I think

952
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: six point zero is the is the franchise number single season?

953
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 3: Are you at all? I guess you're not because you

954
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: said this, But he's got two hundred and thirty one

955
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: touches so far. Carries, not catches.

956
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: It has not Oh he'll blow through, blow past three hundred.

957
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: Right, that's what I'm you know, how many is too many?

958
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 2: He's twenty five, he's.

959
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 4: Twenty five, right, yeah, yeah, he's had he had At

960
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 4: the beginning of the season, people say, oh, well, the

961
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 4: load for James Cook shouldn't be that way. We're overworking

962
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 4: him or whatever.

963
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 12: He was twenty five years old, just had a career

964
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 12: high thirty two carries.

965
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: This is sorry, it's twenty six, twenty six in September.

966
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: His biggest season was twenty twenty three two years ago.

967
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 3: He had two hundred and thirty seven carries. Last year

968
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: he had two hundred and seven. Yeah, but he had

969
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 3: sixteen touchdowns. You know he had all those touchdowns. Yea,

970
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 3: by far. This is his you know, his bigest workload,

971
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 3: heaviest workload at this point of the season. You know,

972
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 3: you know, you're not worried, not worried at all.

973
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 4: Like I said, I think we talked about this at

974
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 4: the beginning of the season or right after the season

975
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: started for a couple of games. He doesn't take big hits, guys. Yeah,

976
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 4: that's true. He does not take big hits or he's

977
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 4: dishing it out. I mean, I saw one play on

978
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 4: the sideline where he could have easily ran out of mounds.

979
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 4: I mean he delivered a blow to the defensive back.

980
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 4: So I mean that rightfully. So it's the defensive back.

981
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 3: It was also in the third or fourth quarter when

982
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: they wanted to know more of it, Pittsburg, Well, you

983
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: still deliver that blow, that's right. Well, yeah, they will

984
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 3: delivered that. To deliver that blow the first quarter when

985
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: they're all juiced up and everything, it's like a fourth

986
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 3: quarter when they're down three scores and their offense can't

987
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: get out of its own way. Then their defense all

988
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 3: their body language change everything. The defense was just like this,

989
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 3: get out of here. Yeah, And I like that's when

990
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 3: you do it. Yeah, you got to just put an

991
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: exclamation point on.

992
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 12: It, right that, Right there, you go. That's Jaden Rams. Yeah,

993
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 12: and uh so, I'm I'm with you.

994
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: He's he's turned into the engine of the offense. And

995
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: rightfully so. In a game, particularly in a game like

996
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 3: last week, it really really went the Bill's way. And

997
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 3: what do you say about think about the two backup

998
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: offensive tackles, the way the offensive line played. I was,

999
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: I gotta say I was impressed.

1000
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 4: I was definitely impressed. I mean, we didn't hear TJ.

1001
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 4: Wathing the name all pretty.

1002
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 3: Much all day that he didn't have a stat.

1003
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 4: He didn't have a stat.

1004
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: I think four assisted tackles.

1005
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I think that's more encouraging for you know what.

1006
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: It gives an opportunity for Spencer Brown and Deon Dawkers

1007
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 4: gets some more rest knowing that you can count on

1008
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 4: these two guys. I mean, and I think that's kind

1009
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 4: of where they're at now. I don't know where Deon's

1010
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 4: at or where Spencer's at is.

1011
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: For practicing this week. Uh didn't have the red non

1012
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 2: contact jersey on today.

1013
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 3: Seemed like he practiced full today.

1014
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: We'll see what the designation is.

1015
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 3: So we'll wait and see if he has.

1016
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: But he's in step four. If he's doing contact practice,

1017
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: that means he's step four of the five step return

1018
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: to play protocols. So our best guest right now, and

1019
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: we're not doctors or athletic trainers, comes through today's practice,

1020
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: comes in tomorrow morning, gets his baseline test, and if

1021
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: his test matches up with his baseline no symptoms, there's

1022
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: a potential for him to get full medical clearance as

1023
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: early as tomorrow, maybe Saturday. We'll have to wait and see.

1024
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well you know going back to you know

1025
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 4: the offensive lineman.

1026
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: That took me on and yeah, Vandermark and Anderson.

1027
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I talked about it last week. They

1028
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 4: kept it very simple for he kept it.

1029
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 12: Kept it simple and I and I think that could

1030
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 12: be possibly this week too, to keep.

1031
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 4: Them very simple. I don't very simple for those guys.

1032
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: I don't think they went in thing and we're only

1033
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 3: going to run two running plays. I think they probably

1034
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 3: when once it started working, it's like then it gets

1035
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 3: you know how it is, it gets good to those

1036
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 3: guys like, man, let's keep doing this. Yeah, exactly what

1037
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 3: do you think and why? Because for us out here

1038
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 3: you always think, well, if I were a coach, particularly

1039
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 3: a Pittsburgh coach, in this last game, you've got to

1040
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 3: like almost exaggerate an adjustment, like go like six D lineman,

1041
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: like you gotta do something out of the ordinary to

1042
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 3: stop what the Bills are doing.

1043
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: They never did, No, they never did.

1044
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 4: And you know, even to just jump off a subject

1045
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 4: for a little bit, I think Mike tom was in trouble. Well,

1046
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 4: I think he's in trouble. And I don't think that

1047
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers signing was a good signing for them. I mean,

1048
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 4: it's one of those deals where you know what, he's

1049
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 4: forty two.

1050
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: Years old, just turned forty two.

1051
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 4: Come on, dude, that's enough football for you. Yeah, and

1052
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 4: you're not performing. I mean you trip and you get hurt.

1053
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just not good for him.

1054
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 3: I get that, and you're right, it's gonna turn out

1055
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 3: to be it. He wasn't the answer, but that's what

1056
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: that's the guy I would have signed. I gotta be

1057
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: honest with you. I mean I would have. I don't

1058
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 3: know who was kind of slim pick, right, A slim pick.

1059
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 3: You gotta go with what you got. And their hands

1060
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 3: were a little bit tight of who was available to sign,

1061
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 3: so I get, but yes, he's not the answer.

1062
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 4: Not the Pittsburgh way.

1063
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: Well they you know what Omar Khan was doing, because

1064
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: it wasn't just Rogers firm. I mean they traded for

1065
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: Ram and sent away Fitzpatrick. I mean they trade for

1066
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf. That's a player who's still in his prime,

1067
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: but they gave it a second round pick for that guy.

1068
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 3: Darius Say had nine starts for them this year, got.

1069
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: The oldest, most expensive defense in football, and it's not

1070
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: a good defense anymore at all.

1071
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: I made this. I made this statement when when Josh

1072
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: and Cam Hayward got into their altercation. When I went

1073
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 3: back and looked at the video, I am convinced now

1074
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 3: more than ever, Cam was making a leadership player to

1075
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 3: try and get a spark in his team. Josh didn't

1076
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: cheap shot him, no, but he was telling his teammates

1077
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: he did so that they would get fired up against

1078
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 3: the quarterback of the other team. I thought it was

1079
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. It's a good move

1080
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 3: on his part to try and get lightest because they

1081
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 3: lit a fire unto our offense by hitting Josh Lady.

1082
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 3: He was trying to do the exact same thing for

1083
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 3: his defense. And yeah, you didn't have it in him.

1084
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 3: I get it.

1085
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 4: No, they didn't have it in it. And that's what

1086
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 4: you don't want out of your football team, to have

1087
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 4: somebody give him a spark. You should have that spark already.

1088
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 4: You know what, you should have that spark. I mean,

1089
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 4: this is a really a well run organization, the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1090
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 4: just putting on that uniform. You should have a spark,

1091
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 4: right right, I mean it's the Pittsburgh Steeling, right and

1092
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 4: obviously things haven't been going well for them, but yeah,

1093
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 4: he and and to give Cam credit, he picked the

1094
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 4: right guy.

1095
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, he picked the right guy.

1096
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 4: But in a sense it was the wrong guy because

1097
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 4: you don't mess with Josh. Like I've said before, when

1098
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 4: you piss Josh Josh off, he turns it up or not.

1099
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 4: He's just that way.

1100
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, he has another gear. Yeah, and I think that

1101
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 12: that fires up our team.

1102
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: I've been telling Brownie and said it a couple of times.

1103
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 3: Marv said that about us after Super Bowl twenty five

1104
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 3: or something when Parcels won it and they thought, well

1105
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 3: Parcels gets he's got fired. Mars said, listen, if I

1106
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: have to fire you up, I got the wrong guys

1107
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 3: right right, and we took we actually, you know, said

1108
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 3: you know what, He's right, let's go. And that was

1109
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: kind of the way we did it. And like you said,

1110
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 3: if you're looking for somebody or something or something else

1111
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 3: to fire you up. And the Bills are guilty of

1112
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 3: it too. That first half of their offense was bad.

1113
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 3: I mean they three points against that defense. Yeah, I

1114
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: mean so then so then right, so then so then

1115
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: when they hit Josh and he goes and then they

1116
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 3: get the field goal. Halftime, they come out after halftime

1117
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: of course, then they run away with it. But yeah,

1118
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: you got to show up ready to play, and I got.

1119
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 4: To show up to play. I mean you got to

1120
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 4: show up ready to practice. I mean that that's pretty

1121
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 4: much from the start, you know, Like I said, I

1122
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 4: don't I can't remember where we had like bad practices

1123
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 4: when we had great practices.

1124
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 3: Everything we were pretty.

1125
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 4: Because we were like pretty efficient of what we wanted

1126
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 4: to do and how we wanted to do it. Like

1127
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 4: the coach didn't have to tell us like, Okay, we

1128
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 4: need to do this to do that. No, we knew

1129
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 4: the type of players that we had on our football team.

1130
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, I think that goes along

1131
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 4: with with the scene right now, and it all starts

1132
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 4: with Josh.

1133
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: What.

1134
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on Ray Davis's performance? I thought

1135
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: it was probably his best performance of the scene.

1136
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 6: Wow.

1137
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: And I need your thoughts on this them because it

1138
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: seems to me that whenever Ray tries to bounce a

1139
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: run outside, he cannot get the corner effectively. He's just

1140
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: not as quick twitch as James is that much as obvious,

1141
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: but like his change of direction and being able to

1142
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: move lateral and then stick his foot in the ground again,

1143
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: it just doesn't seem to be we know, it's not

1144
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: what James is. James is an elite talent. I'm of

1145
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: the I'm of the belief only downhill runs for that

1146
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: cat number one and then number two if the hole

1147
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: is plugged, just run your head into the hole anyway

1148
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: and just get one or two. Because when he tries

1149
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: to bounce, he loses. What does the decision making process

1150
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: for that stuff in terms of I mean, it's all

1151
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 2: instinct is to win, to bounce, right, but it just

1152
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: doesn't seem to work well for you.

1153
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's it is instinct of trying to bounce the play.

1154
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm I'm with you on this, and I

1155
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 4: think where we see the best out of Ray Davis.

1156
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 4: And I've kept saying it, you know, throughout the entire

1157
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 4: football game. You know, keep that guy, especially like in

1158
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 4: the I formation, going between the tack going down here

1159
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 4: between attack because none of that pitch stuff outside. No,

1160
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 4: this guy is a little it's a little bowling ball. Yeah, yes,

1161
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 4: he needs to be like going between the tackles every

1162
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 4: single play. And I think that with his running style,

1163
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 4: low center of gravity.

1164
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, even if he does get two yards,

1165
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 12: I mean.

1166
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 4: In this day and age, you're probably gonna have a

1167
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 4: couple of alignment push you to get three more extra

1168
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 4: yards like they did with Josh, you know, down on

1169
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 4: the goal line. That's the way it works now. And yeah,

1170
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 4: I don't think you know, he just doesn't have like

1171
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 4: that quickness to jump outside and accelerate.

1172
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 12: He's not a James un No, he's not a jumps

1173
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 12: He's a downhill runner.

1174
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 4: He's an Earl Campbell down here, runs none of none

1175
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 4: of this, yeah, minus about thirty pounds. But yeah, he's

1176
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 4: a downhill runner. That's all the plays that he should

1177
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 4: be running downhill like that or kind of like counterplays.

1178
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: But good, Yeah, that's what I thought. I just wanted

1179
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 2: to get it reinforced by someone who knows.

1180
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1181
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 4: I think I think with Ray is that you know,

1182
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 4: James is having such a hell of a year that

1183
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 4: we haven't saw him on the football field, and this

1184
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 4: was the first time extensively we've saw him.

1185
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: Let's just to be reminded that he can be productive

1186
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: for you exactly in that way.

1187
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 4: In that moment. Yeah, in that way downhill running.

1188
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you surprised it that the Bills ran. It

1189
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 3: had what forty or forty one cold runs? I mean

1190
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 3: that was and the fact that they you know, they

1191
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 3: repeated those runs and they kept having success with it.

1192
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 3: Really it was it was a historic game.

1193
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 4: It was dominant. Yeah, it was dominant by those guys.

1194
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 4: And you know what, look when this weather starts to

1195
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 4: turn like it is, right, this is a perfect time forward.

1196
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 4: That was a perfect time for it. I don't know

1197
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 4: what the forecast is going to be Sunday, but it's.

1198
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: Can be overcast and cold, no precepts and not a

1199
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: lot of wind either.

1200
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 4: I don't know the I don't even know. I can't

1201
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 4: even tell you a person on Cincinnati's.

1202
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 12: Defense well and out of how they are and where

1203
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 12: they right.

1204
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 2: But it's been a bad thirty two.

1205
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 12: Well, you know what, if they're thirty two, make them

1206
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 12: continue to be thirty.

1207
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 4: Two and pound the football like you did got however,

1208
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 4: you got to the Pittsburgh way, get to this way

1209
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 4: against assistin at Bit.

1210
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 2: They've got two rookie linebackers that start for them. Now.

1211
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: They traded Logan Wilson, as you know at the trade

1212
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: deadline because they wanted to get faster and more athletic

1213
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: at the second level, and they are that now with

1214
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 2: Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight. Those are the two rookie

1215
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 2: linebackers in there, but they go heavy upfront, so I

1216
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: don't I'm very curious what the approach is going to

1217
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 2: be run game wise with Aaron Cromer and Joe Brady

1218
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: and how they draw that up this week, because if

1219
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: they're that big upfront, you would say, okay, get them

1220
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: on the move, kind of like they did with Carolina,

1221
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 2: where they're less effective because they're not just standing in

1222
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: there and grinding. But at the same time, they've got

1223
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 2: those two second level linebackers that can really go sideline

1224
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 2: to sideline. So I'm wondering what the approach is there

1225
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: because their front would say one thing, but the athleticism

1226
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: of their linebackers at the second level might say take

1227
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: a different approach.

1228
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's something that you know, I think with

1229
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 4: when you have those type of backers like that, get

1230
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 4: them going one way and having the counter back the

1231
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 4: other way, which for me would be maybe run some

1232
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 4: counters with the tight end and the guard right give

1233
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 4: him to take the wrong step just for a second,

1234
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 4: because you have the offensive line, the tackle in the

1235
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 4: center blocking back. So they take that step this way,

1236
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 4: they got to retreat and go back the other way

1237
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 4: just to get them off their.

1238
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: Lane, just to get already out leverage.

1239
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 4: Already out leverage. So yeah, I mean it's I'm expecting

1240
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 4: to see some counters this year.

1241
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 3: Okay, we yeah, get them moving the wrong direction. It

1242
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 3: is hard for a three hundred and sixty pounds or

1243
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 3: change direction.

1244
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: So what about Well, Higgins is back practicing. He's also

1245
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 2: in concussion protocol like Dion. We'll see if he gets

1246
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 2: out of his concussion protocol. But started practicing yesterday. So

1247
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: there's a very good chance for the first time in

1248
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: a long time that the Bengals have Burrow, Higgins and

1249
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: Chase on the field all at the same time.

1250
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's that's a problem. They are a problem,

1251
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 4: and they're the type of team that they don't like.

1252
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 4: This is what we're gonna do. We have to throw

1253
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 4: it fifty times, that's where we're going. They were abanded

1254
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 4: to run in a minute.

1255
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: Now. They did run at thirty three times against the

1256
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: Ravens last week on Thanksgiving, but I think that was

1257
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: partially because they got.

1258
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 3: Up on this. Yeah, it was some of their runs

1259
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 3: I think probably came late in the game, after you know,

1260
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: they're up two touchdowns.

1261
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, run the clock out or whatever shortly.

1262
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 3: So can I inflated that number a little, at least

1263
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 3: a little, But yes, you're right, they're they ain't gonna

1264
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 3: run the ball of this game.

1265
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 4: They're gonna no, I mean, the best way for them

1266
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 4: to score thirty mores just throw it every single.

1267
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 3: Down and it's gonna it will be dictated as to

1268
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 3: how the Bills offense plays as well. They got to

1269
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 3: show up. And then the Bills are really good front

1270
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 3: running team because of the efficiency of their offense.

1271
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 2: Plus they're bill to stop the pass defensive right for the.

1272
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 3: Most part, Right, it's gonna be an interesting game. And

1273
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 3: I said, I told Brent, it's gonna be interesting to

1274
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 3: see how the Bills choose to attack the Bengals defense.

1275
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: They give up their thirty second the league in passing

1276
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 3: yards giving up and thirty second in run yards given them,

1277
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 3: so might be able to Yeah, they'll get the yards

1278
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 3: for Christmas. They don't care, but you gotta get you

1279
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: gotta finish drives with touchdowns and that's and I.

1280
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 4: Think that's where the problem becomes because now you're in

1281
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 4: a situation where Cook is having this phenomenal year. The

1282
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 4: guy's up front of blocking the twelve personnel or whatever

1283
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 4: you want to have you know out there on the

1284
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 4: field is doing well. And I just I just think

1285
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 4: that that presents a problem to them because the running

1286
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 4: game is with James Cook and you're not. It just

1287
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 4: throws away your game plan if Josh Allen becomes a

1288
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: part of that.

1289
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: Last thing I wanted to ask you about was the

1290
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: play of the run defense this past week. Shaq Thompson

1291
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: wearing the green dot. We had him in studio here yesterday.

1292
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 2: Leadership just oozes off of this guy. Go what what

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Speaker 2: were your impressions of seeing him in a full full

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Speaker 2: time role middle linebacker running the defense.

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Speaker 4: I loved it. Yeah, I mean when when I think

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Speaker 4: I saw him do an interview is like, we got

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Speaker 4: to just man up and just be able to stop

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Speaker 4: the run every single play. Yeah, and enough is enough?

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Speaker 4: And I mean he was I mean, man, he's what

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Speaker 4: like I wish he was like four or five years younger,

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Speaker 4: so we can recign or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I wish you and me were four or five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he, I mean, he's been in the league

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Speaker 4: and he he brings a spark to this.

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Speaker 3: Add I think it's perfect too that he hasn't been

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Speaker 3: asked to play ninety snaps again, ninety percent of the

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Speaker 3: snaps defensive right, And at this point of the season

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Speaker 3: when he does get a chance to play, he comes in,

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Speaker 3: he's acclimated, the guys know him, his voice resonates with him,

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Speaker 3: and he's got some credibility.

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Speaker 4: And he got a nice house in Charlotte that's for sale.

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Speaker 12: Okay, so yeah about that.

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Speaker 3: It's the timing is perfect for him and this defense

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Speaker 3: for him to come in and make a difference at

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Speaker 3: the right time of the year, right down of the season.

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Speaker 4: Especially at the end of the year where you know

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Speaker 4: everybody's tired and you know you've been you've played fourteen

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Speaker 4: games or yeah, thirteen games, and he comes in and

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01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 4: he gives that spark, and I think that's, uh, that's

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Speaker 4: what this defense needs. And uh yeah, I I hope

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Speaker 4: he continues to play the way he's been playing.

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Speaker 2: Thurm, thanks for stopping it as always, we appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: And uh, run the ball, huh.

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Speaker 2: Be the game on. Oh absolutely, see who the legend

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Speaker 2: of the game is.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, d T. Yeah absolutely.

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Speaker 3: So the last thing, last statum I gave you the Bills.

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Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Bengals are twenty eighth in the league at

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01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 3: red zone efficiency defensively, so they struggle and keeping people

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Speaker 3: out and the Bills are number eleven getting it in

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Speaker 3: to the end zone.

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Speaker 4: That's ower advantage.

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01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 3: So it's an advantage Buffalo. But that's gonna help him.

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Speaker 3: And I told him, and you can back this up

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01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: because I know it's you will. Red zone offense is

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Speaker 3: about the ability to run it down close and if

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Speaker 3: you can do that, and they got to bear up

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01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 3: and then it opens up that back up. Those windows

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01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 3: are just a little bit bigger for the passing game

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01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 3: if you do need to pass it. But if you

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Speaker 3: can run in the red zone, you're dominant. Yeah, And

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Speaker 3: the Bills are good at it, They're really good.

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Speaker 4: And I think that where Joss comes into play, because

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01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 4: it's I mean, it's Rizzo. I mean he can run

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01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 4: it in from the twenty your line right easily, or

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01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,560
Speaker 4: you can run it in from the five or the

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Speaker 4: one or whatever like you did last week, Like you

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01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 4: did last week. Yeah, and got kind of pushed him

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Speaker 4: around with the lineman to go in. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm interesting game on both sides because you know,

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01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 4: we want to run the football in weather like this,

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01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 4: but also they want to be able to put up

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01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 4: thirty thirty five points too with their passing game. So

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01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 4: interesting game, but Bill's got it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, you heard it. Hall of Famer

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Speaker 2: Therm and Thomas calling the Bill's victory Theream. Thanks as

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Speaker 2: always for the time. We'll catch up with you next week.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's them, and we'll take a break and

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Speaker 2: get back to your phone calls when we return here

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Speaker 2: on one. Bill's Live stay with us. Time now for

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Speaker 2: to get yours. Question this week comes from Terry, who says,

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Speaker 2: when a snowstorm hits while your relatives from Kansas are visiting,

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Speaker 2: do you put them to work shoveling? And how is

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Speaker 2: their shoveling technique? In addition, how well do they drive

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Speaker 2: in the snow?

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Speaker 3: They don't usually drive too much when they're up here, although,

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Speaker 3: and believe me, they don't get snow like we get

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Speaker 3: in Kansas, but it does get really cold. There's shovel

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Speaker 3: snow shoveling technique, let's faces, it's not that complicated, so

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Speaker 3: they're pretty good at it. I'll say this though, when

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Speaker 3: when I did have my son in law and all

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01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 3: his navy buddies and i'd like twelve people. Yeah, not

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01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,560
Speaker 3: for a few weeks ago, but last year when we

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Speaker 3: got the snow Vember, oh, they broke. You know, I

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01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 3: had a handful of shovels. They broke, like three of

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Speaker 3: them trying to shovel the snow. They weren't happy about that.

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Speaker 3: And then when my to his credit, my son in

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Speaker 3: law sent me a couple of Alaskan snow shovels. So

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Speaker 3: I have those now, now.

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Speaker 2: How might they be different from the conventional.

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Speaker 3: They are the snow shovel and my son sent me

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01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 3: from Alaska is like a scoop shovel, like for grain.

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Speaker 3: Oh you know what I mean, the big flat These

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01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 3: are all they're plastic and their orange are all one piece,

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01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 3: very rigid. They're nice. They're nice, and I've got one

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Speaker 3: of those I carry around in my plow with me.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that so he you know, he said, I

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Speaker 3: hate your shovels are pathetic, And I guess from a

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Speaker 3: guy from Alaska, I gotta say, yeah, okay, you know

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Speaker 3: better than me.

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Speaker 2: So he sent me.

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Speaker 3: He sent me a couple, which is very nice, so

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Speaker 3: I thought, but yes, they they are. Yeah, they go

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Speaker 3: shovel of snow. Because for those of you who live

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Speaker 3: your whole life in Western New York, you don't understand

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01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 3: how magical it still is for people from outside the

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Speaker 3: area to come in and witness something like we go

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Speaker 3: through in a lake effect snow. They it's magical to them.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, I didn't, right, it's all this romantic.

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01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 3: They romanticize it because for us, it's like what seriously again, right,

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01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 3: so for people outside of this region who come here

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Speaker 3: and get caught in the lake effect, it's it's a

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Speaker 3: story for them, So it's not the it's not that

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01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 3: right for them. They go out and they frolic in it.

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01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 3: You know, they're like, it's unbelievable, he's got any snow shovels.

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Speaker 5: Let's go.

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01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yes, actually I do. I'll be in

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01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 3: here drinking hot chocolate while you go out there and

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01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 3: do that. Yeah, it's kind of like that.

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Speaker 6: That.

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Speaker 3: It's yes. For those of you who don't travel and

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01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 3: don't have people who come in from out of town,

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Speaker 3: don't underestimate the romanticized version of a slake effect snow

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01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 3: that drops ninety inches on you over the weekend. People

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01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 3: are like, it's it's a lifetime story.

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Speaker 2: eight A eight five fifty to Brian out in Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Brian?

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Speaker 9: Hey, good to hear you guys talk. And then I'm

1437
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 9: so stoked for the Bills of this season. I just

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01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 9: can't imagine the panemodium and in Buffalo, would we would

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01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 9: we go.

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Speaker 5: All the way?

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01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 7: You know?

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01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 10: So I have a question about play.

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 9: Calling and like, to what extent does Josh call his

1444
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 9: own place, you know? And I, as a as a

1445
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 9: comment on that, I watched Bryce Young pull the same

1446
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 9: incredible move last week against the Rams where on third

1447
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 9: and five he only went for like three yards because

1448
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 9: he knew he was gonna go on fourth and two

1449
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 9: and fourth and two is a running down, right, No,

1450
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 9: he went to the end zone both times, and like

1451
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 9: it's like he pulled the pants off the defense. And

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01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 9: so I think it'd all about smart play calling, and

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01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 9: I just hope we can. You know, it's great to

1454
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 9: run when the run is it's going great, but if

1455
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 9: you know the deeps is keying in on your run,

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01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 9: that's the kind to change.

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Speaker 5: It up on them.

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01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 3: Uh yeah. And all I can say about the Josh

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01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 3: calling his own play probably doesn't. But don't get the

1460
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 3: feeling like the Josh doesn't have a say. They they

1461
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 3: go through multiple, multiple conversations throughout the week as to

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01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 3: what they see on film and why they would call

1463
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 3: this play And Josh, what do you like right here?

1464
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 3: And He'll say I like this play right here because

1465
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 3: of this and this and this, And then Joe Brady

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01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 3: or Chromer or somebody else will try and say, well,

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01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 3: we are you thinking like maybe play it call on

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01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 3: this play, and Josh say, yeah, actually I like that

1469
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 3: play better. Let's call that play. So Josh has a

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01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 3: voice in the play selection because of the conversations they

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01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 3: have leading up to the game. They watch film together,

1472
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 3: they talk about things. They talk about options, they talk

1473
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 3: about matchups, they talk about down and distance, they talk

1474
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 3: about the defensive tendencies, what they're expecting because you see

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Speaker 3: it on film and this, and say, for instance, against Cincinnati,

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01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens do this against Cincinnati because they like

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01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 3: this matchup right here. It's different for our offense. Baltimore

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01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 3: does that, we'd be better doing this other thing like this,

1479
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 3: and they say, oh, yeah, you know what, you're right

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01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. So, yeah, Josh has a voice

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01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 3: in the play selection. But because of all the pre

1482
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 3: snap shifts, motions and reads and the things that he

1483
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 3: needs to look at and see, it's hard for him

1484
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 3: to keep a large enough menu at his disposal. Even

1485
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 3: with a wristband, He's not gonna go there and say,

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01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 3: let's see third down three. You know, they've got to

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01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator Joe Brady upstairs can get out ahead

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01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 3: of what they're gonna do next and say so when

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01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 3: the play is over, he says, okay, yeah, this is

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Speaker 3: what I was thinking here, and he can have a

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01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 3: play quicker than Josh can. Look at the look at

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01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 3: the play, watch what happens, start to think about the

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01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 3: next play. Then after it's over, Joe Brady's already thinking

1494
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 3: about it in the time that Josh is looking pre

1495
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,560
Speaker 3: snap at the defense. It's hard for a quarterback to

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01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 3: do it. That's why, even back in the day when

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01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 3: Jim and this all the famous note no Huddle k Gun,

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01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 3: Jim had a very small menu of plays. It helps

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Speaker 3: when you got four Hall of Famers on the field,

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Speaker 3: running it at the skill spots. You got two Hall

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01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 3: of Fame wide receivers, you got a Hall of Fame

1502
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 3: running back who was just in the studio with us,

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01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 3: and the quarterback's the first ballot. So a little easier

1504
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 3: to run a smaller menu of plays when you got

1505
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 3: those jokers out there running it. It's hard. So when

1506
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 3: if you want to get the shifts and motions and

1507
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 3: get enough to word Josh knows what the defense is

1508
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 3: and knows where the vulnerability is before the snap, you

1509
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 3: got to run shifts and motions. It's hard to do

1510
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 3: that when the quarterbacks call on the plays.

1511
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 2: Josh does get two plays, yeah, yeah, in from the

1512
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: you know, from the OC.

1513
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 3: But even those two plays you've had conversation about, Okay,

1514
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 3: if they do that.

1515
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 2: If you see this and you think it's this the

1516
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: run past, it's.

1517
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 3: Zone, it's zone, manned coverage, it's run pass option, it's

1518
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 3: which one you want to do versus man, which one

1519
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 3: you want to do versus zone? What happens if you

1520
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 3: get crossed up all of that stuff and you got

1521
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 3: to have that at the top of your minds. There's

1522
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 3: a lot.

1523
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot.

1524
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 3: It's a lot.

1525
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 2: Let's move along to Butcher on the East Side. What's up, Butcher?

1526
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 13: My brother's from another beautiful mother. Thanks so much for

1527
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 13: taking my call. I love them as G love w

1528
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 13: G A. To all the fans who listen and watch

1529
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 13: this beautiful show and TV, I love each and every

1530
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 13: one of you. I'm gonna get right to it. I

1531
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 13: got a couple of things real quick, uh, and I'm

1532
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 13: gonna go ba based off what Sean McDermott said on

1533
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 13: an interview that you guys had you guys spoke about yesterday.

1534
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 13: A matter of fact, when you ask her about the

1535
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 13: rest of the season, I'm just gonna say this, and

1536
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 13: this is the only way it's going to be. And

1537
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 13: if they don't do it, they're gonna be at home.

1538
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 13: Simple as that. Offensively against Pittsburgh last year, we ran

1539
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 13: sixth linemen.

1540
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 7: Uh.

1541
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 13: This year we drafted a tight end from Georgia Tech

1542
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 13: named Hawes. They slowly stopped using the sixth linem and

1543
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 13: they use Halls as alignment because he's a hell of

1544
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,879
Speaker 13: a blocker. At the again, Pittsburgh, we didn't have two tackles,

1545
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 13: that's veteran tackles. We brought a guy named Alex Anderson,

1546
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 13: who's one hell of a beat. He says, he's like

1547
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 13: a Conrad Dobler. He hasn't played tackles since what junior college.

1548
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 13: He came in and he pailed his own. You guys

1549
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 13: said earlier you're gonna hear anything from JJ Watt at all.

1550
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 13: And now we're getting back to our full, our full

1551
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 13: plate fires offensive lineman. Moving forward. I would like Joe

1552
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 13: Brady to bring Alexanderson back into the sixth lineman, and

1553
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 13: that's gonna protect. That's gonna protect Josh. It's gonna push

1554
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 13: the ball, it's gonna run running backst and get more pushed.

1555
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 13: Don't get me wrong, No disrespectab Halls. He didn't do

1556
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 13: anything wrong. It's just moving forward in this type of weather,

1557
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 13: moving forward in his last five games, trying to get

1558
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,560
Speaker 13: a Super Bowl ring. We need to protect Josh. I

1559
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 13: think running six we can protect Josh. Plus we have

1560
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 13: one in the back deel and maybe go three wives

1561
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 13: and I think we can start putting no points on

1562
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 13: the board like we did last year with Steve and Chris.

1563
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 13: You guys always say we have a storty.

1564
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 4: It's the game.

1565
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 13: Last year we did it with a six linemen but anyway,

1566
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 13: I'm gonna put that to the side, on the deepest

1567
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 13: side of the ball. This is the only way it's

1568
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 13: gonna work. Again, is that you bury the four two

1569
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 13: five you saw against Pittsburgh. You got the right set

1570
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 13: of linebackers. They're all downhill players, Thompson Williams, Mlonald. You

1571
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 13: go press man with with uh in this case, you

1572
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 13: put Max at the corner with Benford. You got your

1573
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 13: safety with Cole, and you got a Puyer back there,

1574
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 13: and let's roll with it. You're gonna get pressure on

1575
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 13: the quarterback, you're gonna stop the run, You're gonna get

1576
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 13: some turnovers. Give the ball back to number seventeen. Now,

1577
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 13: this is the last things, and thanks for taking my call.

1578
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 13: I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of disagree with you guys

1579
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 13: on that last that last call. Don't get wrong. I

1580
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 13: love Jim Kelly. Jim Kelly like just like Steve said,

1581
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 13: he had all these other players and you can run

1582
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 13: at no huddle. But I'm gonna tell you right now,

1583
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 13: Josh Allens just he's the officer coordinator by itself. If

1584
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 13: you just go ahead and leave alone, like you said,

1585
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 13: he will gi them a couple of plays. But Josh,

1586
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 13: whatever you see, go with it. And I think we

1587
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 13: can go ahead and do and accomplish this goal. Even

1588
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 13: though it was ROGLINGI was kind of tough. I really

1589
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 13: believe we could complete that this year. I love you guys,

1590
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 13: Thanks so much for taking mark call. You guys have

1591
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:07,600
Speaker 13: an outstanding right.

1592
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 3: Thanks. Thanks. But yeah, I get all of that. I'm

1593
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 3: I don't know about the sixth offensive line and they're

1594
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 3: running it. They're running the ball so well. I don't know.

1595
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 3: I don't know why you tinker with it because with

1596
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 3: Hawes in there, you're even more of a threat to

1597
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 3: throw it, and the defense can't really sell out as

1598
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 3: much to stop the run as they would with Hawes

1599
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 3: on the field. There's that, but and but I get

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01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 3: your point. Secondly, the four two five h playing Nickel

1601
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 3: instead of base, I guess is what you're saying, go

1602
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 3: with three linebackers.

1603
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm doing that against this offense.

1604
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, I don't know if I'm doing it

1605
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 3: against this offense exactly because of T Higgins and Jamar Chase.

1606
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 3: Now Higgins is a question mark, although I would have

1607
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm anticipating both those guys are out there. But I'm

1608
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I get that this Cincinnati game may

1609
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 3: be a little different than the rest of the way

1610
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 3: where they you know, you might want to put three

1611
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 3: guys on the on the on the fiefth linebacker on

1612
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 3: the field you will later play in the jail and

1613
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 3: I and leaving Josh to call his own plays. Like

1614
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 3: the caller just a minute ago said, let Josh be

1615
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 3: the oc Hey, yeah, okay, do it once and that's

1616
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 3: not going to be your engine, but give it to

1617
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 3: him once in a while in the right moment of

1618
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 3: the right game. Let Josh just have a signal, signal

1619
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 3: the sidelines, give me the next three plays. I want

1620
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 3: to go fast, turn him loose. I'm all for that.

1621
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 3: It's a great change up. It puts a it puts

1622
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 3: angst in the defense. They're like, what's going on here?

1623
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 3: What are they doing? And and to have them go fast,

1624
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 3: snap the ball, Snap the ball, snap the ball. There's

1625
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 3: something in that that is a real problem for a

1626
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 3: lot of defenses. And maybe at this point of the

1627
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 3: NFL history where the evolution of the game is defensively

1628
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 3: and offensively, where so many teams are maxing out the

1629
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,600
Speaker 3: play clock and all and the defense are starting to

1630
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 3: depend on that. Don't give him a chance to do that.

1631
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 3: I'm all for that. Not probably not all the time

1632
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 3: like the old time Bills did. But once in a while,

1633
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 3: maybe you go tempo. Yeah, I'm all for that. And

1634
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 3: Josh is smart enough to have, you know, like the

1635
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 3: conversations I've been talking about, have a conversation about Okay,

1636
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 3: when we go no huddle, here's what we want it

1637
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 3: to look like, and here's your list of plays. I'm

1638
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 3: all for it. It's a it's a great change up.

1639
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 3: It's something I think Josh would be really good at,

1640
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 3: and it would it might break loose. It might you know,

1641
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 3: break loose an offense that seems a little stagnant at times.

1642
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 3: So there you go, good.

1643
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 2: Stuff, especially when it might be devoid of some weapons.

1644
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 2: Yet again this week with paulmerskaid very iffy. So yeah,

1645
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 2: it could be a consideration in terms of, you know,

1646
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: fitting it all into a package that you turn to when,

1647
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,799
Speaker 2: for example, you go tempo. You like the personnel grouping

1648
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 2: on the field for the opposing defense. You want to

1649
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: keep them on the field because you like your matchups,

1650
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: So you go fast and right Josh chooses from a

1651
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: twelve play menu.

1652
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 3: Not even twelve six six, because you'd have six the

1653
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 3: same six plays one way and then the other direction

1654
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 3: as well, and so that would be twelve, you know

1655
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 3: what I mean. And then also you start out with six,

1656
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 3: and this week we have six, and then you know

1657
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 3: next week we're gonna add we're gonna add two more

1658
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 3: plays onto this. We got those six plays, and we're

1659
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 3: gonna rep this. And during practice on a Wednesday or

1660
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 3: a Thursday, you know you're gonna have an extra period.

1661
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna practice this offense with the extra plays and

1662
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 3: the old plays. You know you're only talking ten plays.

1663
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 3: Run through each of your plays once and your gold

1664
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 3: let's go. I'm I'm kind of a fan of that

1665
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 3: because I've seen how effective it can be, obviously, But

1666
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 3: like I said, and I always say it every time

1667
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 3: we bring this up, it's great if you can just

1668
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 3: get a couple of first downs, just one first down

1669
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 3: to begin with. You gotta move the ball. You can't

1670
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 3: get stuffed, and running has got to be a part

1671
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 3: of that offense. You can't be throw throw, throw, throw, throw.

1672
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. When we come back, we'll

1673
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,560
Speaker 2: get some final thoughts on the tweet sheet here. On

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01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 2: a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health,

1675
01:25:58,040 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1676
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 3: All Right.

1677
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: Some final thoughts from the tweetsheet here courtesy of Corrigan

1678
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 2: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company in the Buffalo Bills.

1679
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 2: What will be the difference making factor for Bills win

1680
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 2: Sunday against the Bengals. Laurence says, keep it simple, win

1681
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 2: the turnover battle, win the game. Bills have been getting

1682
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 2: more takeaways of late. It's now twelve in their last

1683
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,520
Speaker 2: six games, so there has been an uptick in takeaways.

1684
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 2: Andrew says, I believe the difference maker is can they

1685
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 2: get the passing game going. We all know they have

1686
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 2: a very good run game, but can the passing game

1687
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: work with it? Defense, play like you were playing in

1688
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 2: the second half of last week's game, and we're good.

1689
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 2: Susie says, have all three sides of the ball play

1690
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: right from kickoff, score first, and keep the hammer down.

1691
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 2: Catherine says, keep Burrow off the field. Robbie says, getting takeaways,

1692
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 2: field position, special teams. I know you guys don't like

1693
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 2: looking ahead and talked about this ad nauseam. But man,

1694
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 2: we got a prep to put the Pats defense on

1695
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: their heels and tire them out. If there were a

1696
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 2: time for k gun, it's next week. Tasker Hall of Fame,

1697
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 2: Go Bills. Dwayne says offensive defensive line, physicality and dominance,

1698
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 2: and then Steven says turnovers and play action. I'd love

1699
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: it if the Bills had like seventy offensive plays, forty runs,

1700
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 2: thirty play action passes. I'm exaggerating to make a point.

1701
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 2: Go Bills. They did dominate at the line of scrimmage

1702
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 2: last week, and you never felt at any point in

1703
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 2: time like the Bills did not have control of that game.

1704
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 2: And be great if you could do that again. They

1705
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: got some big boys on their offensive line. Amarius Mims

1706
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: is their right tackle, and he is a load. He

1707
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: goes six' eight three point fifty. They're a left tackle,

1708
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 2: Orlando Brown six eight three point fifty. So yeah, and

1709
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: everybody on the interior is three ten or heavier.

1710
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 3: It's a long way around the corner on those jokers.

1711
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Marius Mims has like thirty six inch arms.

1712
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 2: He's a freakyzoid.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot going on in this game, and

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be fun to watch. Cincinnati has got, like

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01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 3: I've been saying, they're an elite.

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01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 2: Offense with Joe Burrow the best four and a team

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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 3: They're good. Their offense is very good, and the rest

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01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 3: of their team, their defense and special teams have got

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01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 3: to match that. When the Bills have got to make

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01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 3: hay in those areas in order to beat this club,

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Speaker 3: We'll see if they can get it done.

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Speaker 2: And they've Let's make no mistake about this, they've been

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01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: a bugaboo team for the Bills.

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01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow isever lost to the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: Three and zero counting playoffs, so they've been a little

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01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 2: bit of a bugaboo team for the Bills, and I

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01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 2: think we would like nothing more to see that finally

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Speaker 2: put to an end here because it's getting old.

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Speaker 3: What do we got tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow, We've got our good friend Greg Cosell, senior producer

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Speaker 2: from NFL. Film's gonna talk x'es and o's with us

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Speaker 2: for Bill's Bengals. We'll see what he saw on the

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Speaker 2: film last week from Joe Burrow and get his thoughts

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Speaker 2: on that. And as always, the obl fran Friday mail

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Speaker 2: Bag is open submit your questions now at one Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live and we'll get him answered on tomorrow show. Of course,

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Speaker 2: you can know his call as always at eight oh three,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty. Thanks for listening today. We'll see you

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Speaker 2: tomorrow at one pm