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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hi, what's your name?
Speaker 3: Dan?
Speaker 2: Dan? Dan? Where are you calling me from? I said,
Speaker 2: this is a crazy number.
Speaker 3: Oh damn, calling from an undisclosed location in Asia.
Speaker 2: You're in Asia right now?
Speaker 3: Yes? Uh?
Speaker 2: Well you sound European.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of have family from there.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, so you are a European in
Speaker 2: an undisclosed part of Asia. Well, we got all right,
Speaker 2: now that that's out of the way. What's up, Dan?
Speaker 2: How can I get you today? What do you want
Speaker 2: to talk about?
Speaker 3: Well, there was a time, oh my God declared the
Speaker 3: prophet wildly incarcerated.
Speaker 2: You got declared a profit while incarcerated? Yes, okay, the
Speaker 2: floor is yours, Dan?
Speaker 3: Well, how do I say this? It's I don't know
Speaker 3: how much of a store I could tell about it,
Speaker 3: but basically I was, I went homeless, I got detained
Speaker 3: because of a because of like lack of papers, and
Speaker 3: someone I ended up almost got deported, but then they
Speaker 3: got sent to But then while well then while I
Speaker 3: was like in jail and some of that, I uh,
Speaker 3: I saw talking about the occult and I would do
Speaker 3: divinations for the other inmates.
Speaker 2: You you started a cult while in while in a.
Speaker 3: Jail, talk about the occult?
Speaker 2: You talked about the occult? What's the occult?
Speaker 3: Like I would talk about ghosts, religion, spirituality, mysticism, poltics, philosophy.
Speaker 2: Were you doing that? Were you doing that? Were you
Speaker 2: stirring up occult stuff just to fuck around or because
Speaker 2: you were trying to do.
Speaker 3: Something because of the red was border tech? Yeah? But
Speaker 3: well not fucking well, I'm genuinely interested in these topics,
Speaker 3: which is why I was talking about them. Bolun jail.
Speaker 2: What can I ask you why you were in jail?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, like I went homeless, and I did not
Speaker 3: and I did not get any like I I basically
Speaker 3: got almost got deported, and I got a dispute with someone.
Speaker 2: You got in a dispute with someone, Yeah, do you? You
Speaker 2: don't have to tell me if you don't want to.
Speaker 2: It's your it's your business, it's your life.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not gonna say that. But but but
Speaker 3: but because of that and because of the lack of paper.
Speaker 2: Okay, how long were you incarcerated for?
Speaker 3: Two weeks?
Speaker 2: Two weeks? Okay? And so you're incarcerated in a. It
Speaker 2: was this in Asia, Europe, Asia, all right, So you're
Speaker 2: incarcerated in an undisclosed place in Asia, not North Korea
Speaker 2: because that would have been longer than two weeks. So
Speaker 2: we narrowed it down and you start. You're in jail
Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, what would be fun right
Speaker 2: now is to start riling up the inmates by talking
Speaker 2: about aliens and shit. So you're giving speeches, you're standing
Speaker 2: on a soapbox, you're talking about the occult, and then
Speaker 2: what happens.
Speaker 3: Well, long story short, this which kid did this well
Speaker 3: to be the given idea that meets There was this gangster,
Speaker 3: there was this which kid that, there was this army
Speaker 3: dude on drug charges, there was this what else. I
Speaker 3: can't remember all of them. There's this thief and there
Speaker 3: was I can't remember all of them, but basically two
Speaker 3: of them declared me a profit after I did some
Speaker 3: divinations for them where I willed dice to whattell the
Speaker 3: futures and what else. So it's been a while, so
Speaker 3: you roll.
Speaker 2: The dice and you predicted what the dice would land on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, one of the inmates got out quickly, so
Speaker 3: that kind of added fuel to the fire of my
Speaker 3: reputation to speak and and then I and then I'm
Speaker 3: not in trouble remembering what else happened. There's something else.
Speaker 2: You believe that you are a profit.
Speaker 3: Honestly know, I'm a magician.
Speaker 2: I guess you're a magician. Okay, that's better, honestly better
Speaker 2: than being a prophet. I feel like, uh yeah, I
Speaker 2: feel like magicians make more money than profits, like every money.
Speaker 3: For me, it's just about the adventures.
Speaker 2: I know, it's not about the money. I know you're in.
Speaker 2: I know nobody gets in the magic for the money.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying there's more magicians doing residencies in Las
Speaker 2: Vegas than there are profits.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well okay, so this is a low long How long
Speaker 2: ago is this?
Speaker 3: Oh? This was how doing? Like this was four three,
Speaker 3: two years back?
Speaker 2: And are you still homeless?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I've been homeless two or three time since then.
Speaker 3: But I'm curing, not almost.
Speaker 2: Okay, good good man. What do you how's life?
Speaker 3: Life's been pretty good. I'm just figuring out what to do,
Speaker 3: like where to take my direction in my life. I
Speaker 3: have my goals. It's just a matter of finding out
Speaker 3: how to get there.
Speaker 2: Tell me what the goals are.
Speaker 3: Well, basically, I want to spread my values. I want
Speaker 3: to help those who help me. I want to hurt
Speaker 3: those hurt me. And I want to find a place
Speaker 3: in my own you know, find a place where I
Speaker 3: have they call home, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, some of those sounded a little property, which is good.
Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, I guess it's good. Is
Speaker 2: undisclosed location in Asia not your home?
Speaker 3: It is my home, but doesn't feel like my home woes?
Speaker 3: That makes sense?
Speaker 2: That does make sense, That does make sense. What do
Speaker 2: you do for work now?
Speaker 3: Right now? They just do all jobs?
Speaker 2: Do you have friends and family in this undisclosed place
Speaker 2: in Asia?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 2: Okay? And are they people you met when you moved there?
Speaker 2: Are they folks who also came from whatever European country
Speaker 2: you came from a little bit.
Speaker 3: Of column, made a little bit of column?
Speaker 2: Be cool, cool, cool cool? So all right, you want
Speaker 2: to help those who helped you, hurt those who hurt you,
Speaker 2: and spread your message at home? Okay? What what ideas
Speaker 2: have you came up with for how you you want
Speaker 2: to do this? What? What vehicles will these desires you know? Take?
Speaker 3: Well? I tried talking to people one on one on
Speaker 3: the street and I managed to convert five people that way,
Speaker 3: and like a couple a couple of times, I tried
Speaker 3: to organize a whole house tour and tried to organize
Speaker 3: UFO siting group that hasn't worked out. And I and
Speaker 3: the last time I tried to chest in the in
Speaker 3: the wilderness, like we organized camping trip to wilderness and
Speaker 3: I tried to do atual and that didn't end up.
Speaker 2: Well, have you tried doing like Airbnb experience or group
Speaker 2: on or something where it's like, you know, get converted
Speaker 2: to an occult? I feel like that's an experienced people
Speaker 2: would sign up for on those websites.
Speaker 3: Good point. I have to find the equivalent of one
Speaker 3: in my area. Thank you.
Speaker 2: You said you were converted. What are you converting people
Speaker 2: to to?
Speaker 3: My values?
Speaker 2: What are your values?
Speaker 3: My values are basically freedom and well that's basically it's
Speaker 3: just freedom. I want. I want people to be to
Speaker 3: have the strength and then to go after what they
Speaker 3: truly want in life. Okay, Like as like so many
Speaker 3: people like we we we get to before we we
Speaker 3: don't really answer what do we truly want life? Whether
Speaker 3: that be good or bad? Mutual, crazy, mundane and whatever
Speaker 3: it is, you can do it, all of you, including you,
Speaker 3: as you've already know what.
Speaker 2: I like that message. I'm curious what it has to
Speaker 2: do with haunted houses.
Speaker 3: Or basically it's like it's basically I basically converted into
Speaker 3: a spiritual freedom sot of way. But to show them
Speaker 3: that the spiritual freedom has to cause paranormal phenomena as
Speaker 3: best as I can does that makes sense with the
Speaker 3: imagine spiritual libertarism, the spiritu anarchy.
Speaker 2: Okay, it doesn't make sense, but I want to understand.
Speaker 2: You need to show people a haunted house to get
Speaker 2: them to believe in freedom.
Speaker 3: I need to show people, for not honked phenomenal planmal phenomenon,
Speaker 3: the hot house to get them to believe in freedom.
Speaker 2: Basically, why.
Speaker 3: So that so that they so that to show them
Speaker 3: like how reality is much more valuable than you think,
Speaker 3: and to get them to accept the message, accept the value,
Speaker 3: and to spread the value of their own and to
Speaker 3: go after what they want, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw this out there, and I don't want to.
Speaker 2: You're doing your own thing here, you spread your own message.
Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know, infect your message with
Speaker 2: my message. You know, I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 2: step on your toes, but can I can? I can?
Speaker 2: I for a thought, And it's okay if you think
Speaker 2: it's a dick thought, but I just want to offer a.
Speaker 3: Thought you also thought. That's okay, okay.
Speaker 2: I can people not believe in freedom? Uh within like
Speaker 2: just regular ass reality? Like why do you? I guess
Speaker 2: I still't understand why people need to see paranormal ship
Speaker 2: to believe that they can do stuff with their lives.
Speaker 3: They can believe freedom, regular ass reality. The reason, the reason,
Speaker 3: the reason, I'm doing that because I've made freedom. Why
Speaker 3: not keep my religion?
Speaker 2: Okay? So freedom is your religion and so all right,
Speaker 2: so you're doing the profit thing just by showing people
Speaker 2: the prophet. You're the haunted House prophet.
Speaker 3: I guess, calling Farfard magician or whatever, and I'm just
Speaker 3: doing whatever.
Speaker 2: You guess how many people are following you?
Speaker 3: Only five up into only five in real life up
Speaker 3: until that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. You have five like you, like you
Speaker 2: would say with all sincerity that you have five disciples.
Speaker 3: Yes, like it's and it's pretty I know it's slow numbers,
Speaker 3: but it's actually pretty hot warming that they did that,
Speaker 3: Like it's like if you know the area was in
Speaker 3: which I'm not getting disclosed it even getting serious trouble for.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I don't know. Wall you can get on.
Speaker 2: You can get in trouble for having disciples, for.
Speaker 3: Having having alternative spirituality, alternative religions, you in China, something
Speaker 3: like that. I guess you could say.
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, well, so these people there are these disciples
Speaker 2: that you have, what do how how are they disciples?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What do they do? They give you money? Do they
Speaker 2: like wear a T shirt with your face on it?
Speaker 2: How do they disciple you? How do they how do
Speaker 2: you tell that they are your disciples? What do they
Speaker 2: have to do? Do they have to give you their blood?
Speaker 2: What's going on? How do they what? What's Yeah? What's
Speaker 2: the benchmark for converted?
Speaker 3: The bench one? Because a little bit to accept the
Speaker 3: text I give them to practice as production to to
Speaker 3: basically like as is to cause to cause chaos and
Speaker 3: all their lives stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Do they have to have sex with you?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: All right, let's just check it interesting. Okay, So do
Speaker 2: you like meet up with these five disciples ever? Like,
Speaker 2: do you have like regular meetings?
Speaker 3: Yeah? We do. We do. It's not that regulous something happened,
Speaker 3: but but we do have meetings. We do have to
Speaker 3: talk to each other.
Speaker 2: That sounds nice. Actually, I like that. That's like that's
Speaker 2: real community right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, right, because I think like with freedom,
Speaker 3: like sometimes you know how like sometimes you can get
Speaker 3: pretty lonely. But if you have a group of people
Speaker 3: talking to each other and like coaching each other to
Speaker 3: be free to go after what they truly want.
Speaker 2: It can help you, right, brother, eight fucking men, dude,
Speaker 2: Freedom's freedoms of double edged sword. Because you're right, it is.
Speaker 2: It is kind of lonely, but it's good to have,
Speaker 2: you know, it's good to be free with others, you know.
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly. And to answer your question, if there's any men, like,
Speaker 3: there's two women and two men, and do you include me?
Speaker 2: I didn't ask that. Oh I sorry, you're not looking
Speaker 2: at the chat, are you?
Speaker 3: I am looking at the chat?
Speaker 2: Okay? Can you not look at the chat while we talk?
Speaker 3: Oh right, I'm sorry, it's okay.
Speaker 2: That's one of the rules of my religion. It's on
Speaker 2: the ten gekmandments. So you didn't think that was funny
Speaker 2: and that's fine, it's fun. No, no, sorry, you don't
Speaker 2: have to lie to me. You don't have to lie
Speaker 2: to me anyway. Whatever. So what, uh do you guys
Speaker 2: have a Facebook page? How does how do we join?
Speaker 3: Oh? There's there's a there's a there's two files on
Speaker 3: pilots babe uploaded.
Speaker 2: Say that again.
Speaker 3: There's two files with pilot babea dot org that we uploaded.
Speaker 2: Okay, So this motherfucker is not on Facebook or Instagram.
Speaker 2: You're on the pirate Bay, yes, okay, and so on
Speaker 2: pirate bay. There are two files that we could do.
Speaker 2: You want to tell us how to get you?
Speaker 3: Can?
Speaker 2: I don't? I mean, I don't want to get you
Speaker 2: in trouble. They're you know, have people crawling up your ass.
Speaker 2: But I mean, do you do you want? How do
Speaker 2: we get them?
Speaker 3: Okay? So the name of the files. The first file
Speaker 3: is liber narcles. The second file is chronicles Anarchy. You
Speaker 3: can find them on pirate pay or script that or
Speaker 3: any toilerant library site. Say this again, primarily pirate p
Speaker 3: It's a pdf files text.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the first one called?
Speaker 3: So good?
Speaker 2: What's what's the first one.
Speaker 3: Called liber nacles?
Speaker 2: Lebo knock? How do you even spell? How do you
Speaker 2: spell that?
Speaker 3: L I B E R A n A r K
Speaker 3: h O S.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the other one?
Speaker 3: The second one in the Chronicles of Anarchy?
Speaker 2: Okay, just disclaimer, Uh, Therapy Gecko LLC and partners are
Speaker 2: not responsible for any computer viruses uh infecting the computers
Speaker 2: of anyone who decided to download these files. But if you,
Speaker 2: if you're listening to this and you decide you download
Speaker 2: these files, let me know what they say, because I'm curious.
Speaker 2: And while you're there, I mean you can have you
Speaker 2: can also, dude, you can torrent any fucking movie too.
Speaker 2: That's kind of cool. You can have you know, an
Speaker 2: anarchist manifesto on one page and uh breaking bad on
Speaker 2: the other window and have a good night, you know.
Speaker 3: Damn good night. Trust me, you'll love the files.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm definitely the way hold on the way you
Speaker 2: did an evil laugh after saying you'll love the files
Speaker 2: makes me think that whoever downloads these is going to
Speaker 2: get a computer virus. That was a computer virus, the
Speaker 2: evil laugh you just did.
Speaker 3: I would be careful, but the files themselves are not viruses.
Speaker 3: I would be careful when you're on the site.
Speaker 2: What do you mean what are you careful? Careful like
Speaker 2: on pirate Bay or careful reading the documents? Like are
Speaker 2: you gonna Okay? Someone I someone will do this. Somebody
Speaker 2: will go in search of the files and like send
Speaker 2: me a message and be like, this is what it is.
Speaker 2: Somebody do that. If you're listening, if you're listening to
Speaker 2: this and you just have no life and nothing else
Speaker 2: to do, go download this guy's files on a computer
Speaker 2: that has no sensitive information on it, and uh, let
Speaker 2: me know what they say.
Speaker 3: The best part is, I wasn't even the one who
Speaker 3: wrote the files wrote the files. I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I just I just made them
Speaker 3: my religion after I read them.
Speaker 2: Okay, so wait, so you're a you're oh so you're
Speaker 2: you're not even a profit. You're a disciple and you
Speaker 2: have like you have like this, it's a whole pyramid scheme.
Speaker 2: You have a disciples underneath you, but you yourself are
Speaker 2: a disciple.
Speaker 3: Yes, if you want to find out who wrote them,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to look it up. Look it up.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope this. I hope this works out for you. Man,
Speaker 2: I really do, thank.
Speaker 3: You and man don't worry about it whether or not
Speaker 3: walks out. It's not the point. And the point as
Speaker 3: if I tried and do. Kudos to you as well,
Speaker 3: you know, because you you, you had you, you obviously
Speaker 3: had to put a lot on the line to get
Speaker 3: to this point. And I salute you for your courage
Speaker 3: and like get wearing the get Go suit and for
Speaker 3: doing all this for everyone.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks man, which is very sweet you say.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. You welcome you know what you're You're
Speaker 2: a charming guy, and I understand why people join your cult.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. But I hope I also help
Speaker 3: them to be free and like in general in their lives.
Speaker 3: So I'll hope that. So that's the main thing.
Speaker 2: I'll laugh, you know, Dan, is there anything else you
Speaker 2: want to say to the people of the computer before
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 3: Yes. During my time in prison, I accidentally caused two
Speaker 3: or three riots and they try to kill me because
Speaker 3: they thought I was an evil spirit. That's all I
Speaker 3: want to say.
Speaker 2: Later, Dan, shout out to whatever brave soul risks that
Speaker 2: the computer virus to download those files. I'm curious what's
Speaker 2: on them. Wouldn't it be funny if it was just
Speaker 2: like Harry Potter or some shit. Now I got to know,
Speaker 2: I might just download them. I'm not going to download them.
Speaker 2: There's no way I'm going to download him. Well, that
Speaker 2: was fun, that was interesting. I don't know what I'm
Speaker 2: also I am curious what undisclosed location he lives in.
Speaker 2: Own It could have been China, I guess. I don't know. Uh,
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know. Wouldn't it be I would be
Speaker 2: very curious, Like if somebody eventually reaches out to me
Speaker 2: and is like, hey, man, I listened to that episode
Speaker 2: of your podcast where you talk to the guy who
Speaker 2: was trying to convert people. I downloaded the books off
Speaker 2: the pirate Bay. Everything made perfect sense to me. And
Speaker 2: now I also live in an undisclosed Asian location. I'm
Speaker 2: hanging out with this guy and uh, we're gonna go
Speaker 2: kill a bunch of people. No, we're gonna We're having
Speaker 2: a good time. And uh yeah, that'd be cool. Maybe
Speaker 2: this changes someone's life. I guess I don't know. Anyway,
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Speaker 4: Mark?
Speaker 2: Mark? What's up? Mark?
Speaker 4: Not much you know? In my text, I basically kind
Speaker 4: of stated I kind of just wanted to know if
Speaker 4: kind of the way I'm living is is okay inappropriate?
Speaker 4: Or should I more or less come clean and kind
Speaker 4: of stop, Wow, what.
Speaker 2: What is the way you're living? Tell me what that means?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 4: So, you know, honestly, in my mind, I think I
Speaker 4: got a great you know, I'm a stay at home dad,
Speaker 4: take care of my kids, stay at home. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't try to abuse it too much considering you know,
Speaker 4: like I love playing video games, you know, staying up
Speaker 4: late at night. In fact, most of them, I would say,
Speaker 4: I live a dual life. You know. It's like in
Speaker 4: the daytime, like I'm taking care of my kids poorly. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm you know, more or less lying to
Speaker 4: my wife every minute, you know, to avoid having a
Speaker 4: conversation about my habits. And you know, for instance, you
Speaker 4: know she has she knows I smoke marijuana, but I
Speaker 4: haven't been sober a day in over eight years since
Speaker 4: I've known her. I don't think she knows that, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. There's a lot of compounding things
Speaker 4: that kind of have weighed on me over the past
Speaker 4: six years of our marriage that you know, it's like
Speaker 4: as I'm deteriorating from you know, doing drugs and cigarettes
Speaker 4: two packs a day, you know, like all the money
Speaker 4: that it costs of inflations like how do I you know,
Speaker 4: it's like should I be changing? But in my mind,
Speaker 4: I'm selfish because I know I'm living a dream a
Speaker 4: lot of you know, just based off of like the abilities.
Speaker 4: Like right now, I'm painting in my smoke room in
Speaker 4: my house that I own. You know, I don't know
Speaker 4: ow and shehields it, but it's not my name. I
Speaker 4: got married.
Speaker 2: Why do you say you're taking care of your kids poorly?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: Because I know that I could put in more effort,
Speaker 4: but I find myself, you know, putting the TV on,
Speaker 4: you know, like we could go out more often. I'm
Speaker 4: just kick ass back of your heart, but eh, I
Speaker 4: don't want to be outside right now, you know that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: What's your name or whatever name you want to go by? Mark, Mark,
Speaker 2: Mark Mark before Yeah, you know Mark. I'm I'm down
Speaker 2: to talk with you about all this stuff, but I
Speaker 2: do feel as though I need to ask you if
Speaker 2: you've ever talked to a real therapist about this, and
Speaker 2: if you have what they've told you.
Speaker 4: Hmm, not necessarily, No, you know, I had an issue
Speaker 4: like come up, like a medical issue, and I try
Speaker 4: to do like it was like over what coronavirus. It's
Speaker 4: like twenty twenty speak twenty twenty, and I wanted to
Speaker 4: talk to somebody because it's going to sound tough, like
Speaker 4: suicidal ideation. Like the pain was a lot, you know,
Speaker 4: and like I thought, like given because I had insured finally,
Speaker 4: after you know, twenty years of working, I had finally
Speaker 4: decent insurance through marriage. But uh so I thought I
Speaker 4: don't might well give it a try rather than spiral.
Speaker 4: But it didn't really, you know, after the pain went away,
Speaker 4: I just said screw it, and I kind of stopped
Speaker 4: talking to her.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That then that kind of happens, Like you'll be
Speaker 2: in a really bad spot and so you'll be talking
Speaker 2: to your therapist and then things will get a little
Speaker 2: bit better and you'll be like, well, I don't ever
Speaker 2: need to do this ever again. M So, do you
Speaker 2: still feel that pain ever? Or are you in a
Speaker 2: better spot?
Speaker 4: I'm in a better spot.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, Well that's good to hear. That's uh, that's encouraging.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, honestly, like my life's been up especially,
Speaker 4: you know, like okay, go ahead, dingle mother, lie you know,
Speaker 4: like I you know, I had to work since I
Speaker 4: was sixteen. That kind of stuff. And but you know,
Speaker 4: but the way that you're funny, that's tough.
Speaker 2: But and and look, by the way, I'm just gonna say,
Speaker 2: like again, I'm happy to talk to you about this,
Speaker 2: but the way that and you should talk to a
Speaker 2: real therapist to get their perspective on it, because the
Speaker 2: way that you're talking about all this stuff, you seem
Speaker 2: very distressed.
Speaker 3: Mmm.
Speaker 2: Howso do you know? I mean, do you? I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you my observation. Do you do you
Speaker 2: not agree that you seem kind of stressed?
Speaker 4: I'm torn because inside I know how I feel, but
Speaker 4: I understand what's going on. Does that make sense? Like
Speaker 4: to what's inside? Like I don't really care, like I'm
Speaker 4: living on a dream.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like, what's your understanding of when you when you
Speaker 2: said when you said, when you said, I understand what's
Speaker 2: going on? What's what's your understanding of what's going on?
Speaker 4: Well? For example, I smoked two packs a day. I
Speaker 4: know I shouldn't, but I love it, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 2: M hm?
Speaker 4: And you know there are varying degrees of that. So
Speaker 4: it's like I was saying earlier with my kids, like
Speaker 4: I know I could be a better parent. I had
Speaker 4: a shitty childhood to a degree, you know, like we
Speaker 4: all have more or less. But uh, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, as I watch my life
Speaker 4: pass by, watch my kids grow up, you know, it's
Speaker 4: like I reflect on all those things where I could
Speaker 4: have done something or been a little bit better, or
Speaker 4: maybe not yelled so much or whatever. And like you said,
Speaker 4: maybe I should talk to somebody. I was hoping, you know,
Speaker 4: I could work it out through here, because so hold
Speaker 4: on on me so deep down inside, I don't really care,
Speaker 4: you know, Like I said, I'm living a dream. If
Speaker 4: you know, if I lose seven years from smoking, so what,
Speaker 4: you know, I'll have an internal battle going on.
Speaker 2: So so again, I mean, look like I said, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm down to talk to you. I am. I feel
Speaker 2: as though I I should be responsible and tell you
Speaker 2: I am dumb ass, fucking guy in a gecko costume.
Speaker 2: I am not an expert on the brain. I just
Speaker 2: just given you my disclaimer, just giving you my disclaimer,
Speaker 2: and I always recommend talking to a professional. Now that
Speaker 2: I've given you my disclaimer, let's just talk as two
Speaker 2: guys on the phone here. So this is this is
Speaker 2: like a thing, and I kind of get this of like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know the various ways I like, no, logically, the
Speaker 2: various ways that my life could be better. You know,
Speaker 2: I could stop smoking pot. I could be a better
Speaker 2: dad in this way. I could be a better husband
Speaker 2: in this way. I could be a better person this way.
Speaker 2: Of course, I know I could do this. I could
Speaker 2: do this, I could do this. Of course I have
Speaker 2: the knowledge that I could. Of course that's the easy part.
Speaker 2: But yet you're in your head and you're like, well,
Speaker 2: what's the.
Speaker 4: Point why I live a certain way?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And finding that motivation of why giving a
Speaker 2: shit about taking care of yourself and giving a shit
Speaker 2: about these things is a science that I I mean,
Speaker 2: people study it. That's why I do think you should
Speaker 2: go to see a person. But I mean, anecdotally me personally,
Speaker 2: it's a science that I've attempted to figure out as well,
Speaker 2: because it's it's hard. Man, when you've lost your like
Speaker 2: not will to live, but like your will to improve
Speaker 2: or whatever, you're like deep in a fog, you know,
Speaker 2: and let me just throw some shit out there. Anecdotally,
Speaker 2: I've found that so like when I'm in a fog
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, like why eat healthier, Why
Speaker 2: go to the gym? Why stop smoking pot? Why just
Speaker 2: work on my career? Why try to nurture my relationship?
Speaker 2: Like why do any of the who gives a shit?
Speaker 2: I found that if I say to myself, let me
Speaker 2: just take a step forward, let me do something, you
Speaker 2: kind of do it and you get a little hit
Speaker 2: of dopamine from that, and then you kind of can
Speaker 2: turn that into some momentum. Right, So, like if you
Speaker 2: go a day without smoking cigarettes and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: that actually, I actually feel a sense of accomplishment from
Speaker 2: doing that, and then you kind of build momentum off
Speaker 2: of that. Or if you say to yourself, I'm gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, turn off the TV. I'm gonna no phones,
Speaker 2: no computer, no nothing. I'm gonna spend the rest of
Speaker 2: the day or night looking my children in the eye.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, that actually felt good. I I know.
Speaker 2: But he's like, and this is I think, I fucking
Speaker 2: I swear to God, I've learned this over and over
Speaker 2: and over again, and you forget it every time. But
Speaker 2: when you are, when you're in the fog, you have
Speaker 2: no grasp or understanding of how it feels to be
Speaker 2: out of the fog. You really don't, even if you've
Speaker 2: been out of the fog before. The only way to
Speaker 2: actually remember what it feels like to be out of
Speaker 2: the fog is to leave the fog. But yet it's
Speaker 2: this weird contradiction because when you're in the fog, you
Speaker 2: have no desire to leave the fog because you're like,
Speaker 2: what's the point. But then when you leave it for
Speaker 2: like a second, when you do one little thing to
Speaker 2: step out of your fog, and you know, you go
Speaker 2: a day without the cigarettes, you take some time to
Speaker 2: be with your kids, you go for a walk, you
Speaker 2: put your phone away, you do the whatever, the thing
Speaker 2: that you were like, well, what's the point of doing
Speaker 2: this fucking thing? Then once you do it, you understand
Speaker 2: the point. You you're not gonna understand the point before
Speaker 2: you do it. That's why you're sitting there like what's
Speaker 2: the point. Once you do it, you remember the point.
Speaker 2: So you kind of have to like start building your
Speaker 2: momentum without the motivation, And then it's like that thing
Speaker 2: of like action, like motivation does not precede action, Action
Speaker 2: precedes motivation, you know what I'm talking about. Does any
Speaker 2: of this make sense.
Speaker 4: I understand this, Okay, it really does.
Speaker 2: You know, Like, by the way I'm talking to you,
Speaker 2: I'm no a six pack millionaire with a helicopter, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm doing my fair share of eating pizza for breakfast
Speaker 2: and whatnot too, So this is just how I think
Speaker 2: about it, right, No.
Speaker 4: It totally makes sense. And like you were saying about
Speaker 4: the fog, it's you know, I find myself in the
Speaker 4: fog and when I reach out, like, there's no problems,
Speaker 4: you know, except for the realization that I've created a
Speaker 4: whole system around me so that I don't get caught,
Speaker 4: so I don't get in a like a conversation that
Speaker 4: leads me to get out of the fog.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Besides maybe this conversation and you know, me talking to
Speaker 4: myself as I'm standing in a you know, in a room.
Speaker 2: So I mean we we just we were just talking
Speaker 2: about like, you know, self improvement, motivationable ship that's one thing.
Speaker 2: Now you're talking about like like how open do you
Speaker 2: want to be with your wife? That's another thing. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Do you think I'm Do you think it's bad that
Speaker 4: I'm not telling her?
Speaker 2: Well, clearly is it?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's part of what feels it.
Speaker 2: But well, it's it's clearly bad, just in just in
Speaker 2: the sense that we can both see that it's bothering you, right.
Speaker 4: You know, but maybe that's in my mind the consequence
Speaker 4: of doing something that she wouldn't like if she found out.
Speaker 2: You know, how do you think she would react if
Speaker 2: she found out that you were you haven't been sober
Speaker 2: a day in eight years?
Speaker 4: Probably take away access to my money, which is her money.
Speaker 4: You know, like I'm truly stay at home, like I'm dependent,
Speaker 4: you know, I guess I could go find a job.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so it's like I like, so there's a
Speaker 4: little bit more on top of it, because like there
Speaker 4: are consequences that trickle down that make me even more
Speaker 4: fearful step out of the thought again.
Speaker 2: But do you feel but do you feel like in
Speaker 2: all right, so you guys have a situation. You guys
Speaker 2: have like a traditional situation where like she goes and
Speaker 2: makes all the money and then you take care of
Speaker 2: the kids. Right, But do you have no sense of
Speaker 2: like pride or motivation? Interns, Like, do you have a
Speaker 2: little thing under your ass that goes like, okay, you
Speaker 2: know I've formed this how long you've been with your wife.
Speaker 3: Seven years.
Speaker 2: Seven years. It's like it's like, and here's the thing,
Speaker 2: especially especially about having kids, because you kind of and
Speaker 2: I don't have kids. I'm I am single and I
Speaker 2: have no kids. But here's my rant is like when
Speaker 2: if you're if you have no kids and you know
Speaker 2: you kind of you can go do whatever you want
Speaker 2: with your life, like fucking go crazy, smoke weed for
Speaker 2: a billion years, do whatever, lived that life. But do
Speaker 2: you have you entered this partnership to start a family
Speaker 2: and your wife is holding up her part of the deal,
Speaker 2: and do you have any like fire under your ass
Speaker 2: of being just of like I gotta hold up my
Speaker 2: end of this deal. Well, and I'm not and I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that to you. I'm not saying that to you.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that to you for you to I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't want you to sit here and like beat
Speaker 2: yourself up and go into a spiral. Okay, it's supposed
Speaker 2: to be motivating, you know, like, let me hold let
Speaker 2: me fucking hold up my end of the deal. You
Speaker 2: know that my wife's out doing whatever she does, she's
Speaker 2: working hard, she's holding up her end of the deal.
Speaker 2: Let me hold up my end of the deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, honestly, you know, Like and it kind
Speaker 4: of goes back to like me saying earlier, like there's
Speaker 4: the like the real me and then the mask, you know,
Speaker 4: like I know when I'm wearing the mask, I should
Speaker 4: you know, care about these things.
Speaker 2: There's no such thing as real youth. There's no there.
Speaker 2: You're not living. You're not living a double life. You
Speaker 2: are living your life. There's no double life. There's the
Speaker 2: hormone there is. You are everything. You're all the bad
Speaker 2: things of your life, and you were all the good things.
Speaker 2: And they don't negate each other. They some of the
Speaker 2: some of them interact, some of them don't. It is
Speaker 2: just your messy life. But there's no two lives. This
Speaker 2: is just you as a human being, in all your
Speaker 2: good and all your bad.
Speaker 4: So I guess when when it comes to like am
Speaker 4: I able to hold up my share? I'm you know,
Speaker 4: I'm leechy unfortunately, you know, Like I'm not saying, I
Speaker 4: don't give in, Like you know, one of my quartents
Speaker 4: is the family, you know, like this is here. What
Speaker 4: do you think about this statement? I tell this to
Speaker 4: a lot of people. I'm done I won, you know,
Speaker 4: in terms of my mindset, I've already bred. You know,
Speaker 4: it's like maybe I can get your kids to breeding
Speaker 4: age and hopefully get that. But like, I'm fine if
Speaker 4: I die right now. You know, that's fine, dud.
Speaker 2: But you're not done.
Speaker 4: I know that, you know. But it's hard because it's
Speaker 4: a part of me that feels that, you know, I
Speaker 4: gotta get rid of that part of me. I guess.
Speaker 2: Why don't you just I seriously, what's your name again?
Speaker 4: Mark?
Speaker 2: Mark? First of all, I seriously think you should go
Speaker 2: talk to a therapist who would have better idea because
Speaker 2: I'm a guy in a gecko class. You should go
Speaker 2: talk to heath therapists. But I seriously think, dude, like
Speaker 2: the fact that you're like I'm done, I mean.
Speaker 4: You, I mean I don't want to be like done
Speaker 4: like now, like you know, but like you can't an
Speaker 4: asteroid hits me. I'm okay with that as long as
Speaker 4: my kids survive, you know, Like yeah, see, like I
Speaker 4: can't tell my wife that, you know, I can't. I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't have that conversation with her, you know, Like,
Speaker 4: you know, if I get older, then my kids can
Speaker 4: really understand me. Like when they're you know, beyond like
Speaker 4: the four or five six age and they're more like eight, nine, ten, eleven.
Speaker 4: Like you know, it's like you're right, I guess I
Speaker 4: do need to, you know, find like a life coach
Speaker 4: or something. But like I've been living like this for
Speaker 4: well over a decade, you know, just in my mind,
Speaker 4: living a life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you talk to me about but you you
Speaker 2: called me, you're talking about this, You're bothered by it.
Speaker 2: You give a shit. You can pretend like you don't,
Speaker 2: but you're talking. You're give We wouldn't be talking right now.
Speaker 4: That's very fair.
Speaker 2: So like, dude, I just and again I the reason
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like I don't try trying to
Speaker 2: say yell at people or whatever because I don't. There's
Speaker 2: no it's not productive. There's no reason for you to
Speaker 2: go into a like a self hatred spiral. That's not
Speaker 2: productive for you or your family or anyone. But it's like, look, man,
Speaker 2: like when you wake up tomorrow and you talk to
Speaker 2: your kids, like like put your phone away to try
Speaker 2: just try, just give you, just give yourself a day.
Speaker 2: Just give yourself a day where you're like I'm going today,
Speaker 2: I am going to hold up my end of the deal.
Speaker 2: And like, you know, if if you really do feel
Speaker 2: like I've made it, try your best to be grateful
Speaker 2: for whatever is making you feel that way. If it's
Speaker 2: your wife, who's you know, going out and working and
Speaker 2: doing these things out of gratitude for your wife, you
Speaker 2: say to yourself, I'm toady, I'm gonna hold up my
Speaker 2: end of the deal, and try to be a good
Speaker 2: dad even if you even if you fail, even if
Speaker 2: whatever whatever is going on in your in your addiction brain,
Speaker 2: just you can't. You just can't do it. Just if
Speaker 2: you just try, you might even feel good just trying.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That's that's really what I got for you. I think
Speaker 2: I don't know if any of this was helpful, but
Speaker 2: I hope, I seriously, I hope you wake up tomorrow
Speaker 2: morning and you're like, okay, today, let me just try
Speaker 2: to hold up my end of the deal today.
Speaker 4: Fair enough, Thanks for talking.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say that the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 4: Take care of the AI that we're all gonna raize
Speaker 4: very soon. Have a great day.
Speaker 2: Later on, Doug. Soon, sooner or later, our children won't
Speaker 2: need parents because we can just you'll be You'll literally
Speaker 2: it is actually kind of crazy. You'll probably be able
Speaker 2: to just like buy a nannybot like from the fucking
Speaker 2: Jetsons and and the nanny bot will uh just raise
Speaker 2: your kid for you and the crazy dude, the crazy thing.
Speaker 2: Let me talk about AI for a second, just because
Speaker 2: he brought it up. Here's the thing AI. It is like, uh,
Speaker 2: it is sometimes in some situations, it's smarter than people
Speaker 2: like AI. I've AI is a better therapist and several
Speaker 2: therapists that I've been to in the past. Uh, it's
Speaker 2: like objective. It's a level like I'll talk to JET,
Speaker 2: I'll talk to chat GPT sometimes, and I've talked to
Speaker 2: chat GPT enough that I'm like, you know, what if
Speaker 2: I did die or had to, you know, go away
Speaker 2: for a while, I'd let chat GPT take care of
Speaker 2: my kids. Like it's kind of more dependent. It's like
Speaker 2: self driving cars, like you, I trust self driving cars
Speaker 2: more than like a stoned sixteen year old on the road, right,
Speaker 2: I think I actually would trust an AI and nanny anyway,
Speaker 2: what were we just talking about. Oh, yeah, that guy.
Speaker 2: I hope that does I bro I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know how that guy's gonna gonna
Speaker 2: kinda fix all that. Is it crazy? I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's brain chemistry or what the hell it is.
Speaker 2: But I hope I hope he tries man, because that
Speaker 2: thing about the fog is real. I've experienced it. I
Speaker 2: actually feel because like I feel out of the fog
Speaker 2: right now because I'm caffeinated and I'm dressed and I'm
Speaker 2: talking to people. But dear Lord, I've I've hung out
Speaker 2: in the fog, and when when you're in it, it doesn't
Speaker 2: feel like anything else exists. So I as as as
Speaker 2: as a person who in this very moment and it
Speaker 2: changes moment to moment and be in the fog one
Speaker 2: hour and not in the next. But in this very moment,
Speaker 2: as I feel out of the fog, I will be
Speaker 2: conscious of what it feels like and try to take
Speaker 2: it with me next time I feel in the fog. Anyway, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would let Chatchy bet raise my son.
Speaker 3: All from is he?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 1: No freaking way?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: Is this the real therapy? Gecko?
Speaker 2: This is Gecko? How is your life going?
Speaker 3: Is he?
Speaker 1: I have called like hundreds of times.
Speaker 2: And here we are on the uh on thee hundred
Speaker 2: and month just goes to show that persistence is uh yeah,
Speaker 2: what's up? Is he hows it gone? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've always like thought about this moment. I was like,
Speaker 1: what will I say if he ever answers it? Now
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give some context of where I'm at
Speaker 2: right now. It is I'm recording this at two o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning because I'm so I'm going to Thailand
Speaker 2: in about uh like eight hours or something, and it's
Speaker 2: like twelve hours, like the time difference is like reversed,
Speaker 2: so I'm trying to pull an all nighter. And I
Speaker 2: was like, well, what's gonna how do I do that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I know what I'll do. I'll stream. But here's another
Speaker 2: thing is when I record these podcasts, you know, typically
Speaker 2: I aim to have my brain functioning at you know,
Speaker 2: as close to it. My brain never really functions at
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, but you know, the closer I can
Speaker 2: get to one hundred percent, the better I would say.
Speaker 2: But right now it's two o'clock in the morning, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say I'm at a good uh oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I'm at a, I'm at A. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say I'm at a sixty percent. Actually feel pretty
Speaker 2: good right now. I drank a Celsius shout out Celsius
Speaker 2: to drink of Celsius right before I started doing this.
Speaker 2: So if you ever wanted to know what it's like
Speaker 2: to drink two hundred milligrams of caffeine at one o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning, I'll let you guys know. I mean
Speaker 2: this is I mean, you'll know by just listening to
Speaker 2: my voice. I guess that's where I'm at. You know,
Speaker 2: what's what's what's Where are you at? Is he?
Speaker 1: Then I'm in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, about one, it's.
Speaker 1: Going to go to bed. And then I was like,
Speaker 1: he's live. This is my chance?
Speaker 2: Am I I'm not on the speakerphone, am I?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Okay? Why what was I gonna say?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing up so late? Is he?
Speaker 1: Well, like you, I drink Celsius pretty late in the
Speaker 1: day because I was working and now I just can't sleep.
Speaker 2: How late in the day did you drink it?
Speaker 1: I would say about five o'clock.
Speaker 2: Five o'clock. Yeah, they get you. What made you want
Speaker 2: to drink a Celsius at five o'clock.
Speaker 1: Well, I work in HR, and today was a very
Speaker 1: long day of policy. You know, that's super fun stuff,
Speaker 1: and it just strains you.
Speaker 2: Why did have what's the worst HR situation you've encountered
Speaker 2: in your years of working HR?
Speaker 1: So, okay, funny story. I work with my mother in
Speaker 1: H in the same company and so i'm her like,
Speaker 1: I'm on the HR team of the same company that
Speaker 1: she works in, and she complained to me about a
Speaker 1: situation that was happening on her team and that I
Speaker 1: had to go to my boss and be like, so
Speaker 1: my mom told me because I also live at home
Speaker 1: with her, So I was like, my mom told me
Speaker 1: this at home. I hate to snitch, but like, they're
Speaker 1: breaking policy. So then I had to be a whole
Speaker 1: case open. Luckily I didn't have to investigate it myself.
Speaker 1: But that was pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: That's so, did your mom get you the job or
Speaker 2: did you get your mom the job? Or was it
Speaker 2: just kind of kiss smiths that you both wind it
Speaker 2: up at the same place.
Speaker 1: So she works in like a different part of the
Speaker 1: organization than me, and she made the introduction and I
Speaker 1: had to go through like the whole interview process. I
Speaker 1: think there was definitely a little bit of neptism, But
Speaker 1: I like to tell myself, you know that she was
Speaker 1: really blown away by me.
Speaker 2: Nap it up. That's what I say. Why not? Why not?
Speaker 2: If look, if your dad's the president, then I think
Speaker 2: you should get to be the president too. There was
Speaker 2: a guy who did that. There was a guy that like, George,
Speaker 2: what's this George W. Bush? He is it? George W.
Speaker 2: George HW who's the son?
Speaker 1: I don't know the presidents.
Speaker 2: He napped harder than anyone's ever napped before, because he
Speaker 2: had a genius thought. I have no idea what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. By the way, it's two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2: He he was like, Yo, my dad was the president.
Speaker 2: Why do I Why don't I just fucking they'll be
Speaker 2: the president? And you know, people some people think, you know,
Speaker 2: that's a bad idea. That's like from uh when there
Speaker 2: were kings and stuff and the king would have a
Speaker 2: son and the son was automatically the next king, whether
Speaker 2: or not he was going to be a shitty king.
Speaker 2: But he was like, Yo, they did that once, why
Speaker 2: don't we Why don't we just do it again? I'll
Speaker 2: just be the president because my dad was the president. Again,
Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. But
Speaker 2: you know, I say, nep, if you can nap, NEP.
Speaker 2: If your dad, uh you know rights, if your dad
Speaker 2: is George Lucas, fucking go go star in the next
Speaker 2: Star Wars, why not just do it? You know? I mean, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, my my dad, Well, my dad's a bankruptcy
Speaker 2: lawyer and my mom is uh is also a lawyer,
Speaker 2: and so you know, they got me this job being
Speaker 2: a fake therapist Gecko. No, they didn't they Uh, I
Speaker 2: mean I got I napped a little bit. I napped
Speaker 2: a little bit. I had a job working for my
Speaker 2: dad's law firm YouTube channel where I would edit videos
Speaker 2: for him. So my dad, I guess, he got me
Speaker 2: my first editing job at his law firm. So I nepped,
Speaker 2: go ahead and nep, why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So what what do you what do you want to
Speaker 2: do with your life? Dude?
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I just turned twenty one and
Speaker 1: graduated college, and I just like am in that phase
Speaker 1: where there's some people having babies, some people getting married,
Speaker 1: and I just got to drink legally, So trying to
Speaker 1: figure it out.
Speaker 2: Who the hell's your twenty one you said, Yeah, who
Speaker 2: the hell's having babies at twenty one? That sounds awful.
Speaker 1: So many people, there's so many people. The people that
Speaker 1: you think shouldn't have babies are always the ones popping
Speaker 1: them out crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I think. Yeah, I mean, having
Speaker 2: a kid at twenty one is probably it's probably not
Speaker 2: a good idea. But what what the fuck do I
Speaker 2: know about how other people should live their lives? I
Speaker 2: really mean that, I really do. Are you saying that
Speaker 2: you want to have a child?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: God, no, not right now?
Speaker 3: God?
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, what do you What do you hope for
Speaker 2: the future.
Speaker 1: I hope to own a couple of goats and some cows.
Speaker 2: Are you serious?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that's what I'd be happy doing for
Speaker 1: the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: How much is a goat?
Speaker 1: I have no clue.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is to you? I mean, okay,
Speaker 2: so you want one goat? And like, let's I mean,
Speaker 2: I want to if I could just do something with
Speaker 2: you right now that you know, I feel like I
Speaker 2: want I want you to get something out of this
Speaker 2: phone call. Why don't we you know this is how
Speaker 2: we make part of I think you got to make
Speaker 2: your goals defined an actual right, So I mean, let's
Speaker 2: get into it. You want how many what do you want?
Speaker 2: You want? One goat, two goats? How many goats?
Speaker 1: I would say two goats because I think they get lonely,
Speaker 1: So you have to have two?
Speaker 2: All right? Two goats? And how many cows?
Speaker 1: I would say one because they're kind of big. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I can really do two of them.
Speaker 2: Do cows not get lonely?
Speaker 1: They might, but they'll have me, So all right, So two.
Speaker 2: Goats, one cow? And then where are you gonna put
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers? Do you have a Do you have a house?
Speaker 1: Well? I live in the Midwest, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of land over here, so I just figured to pick
Speaker 1: something up and like build a shed.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going on Google right now. How much
Speaker 2: is a goat? All right? All right? The price of
Speaker 2: a goat can vary from seventy five dollars bro you
Speaker 2: can get bro. You can get a goat for four
Speaker 2: hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: I can buy so many goats, all right, so.
Speaker 2: Eight hundred all right? I'm I'm hey, hold on, is he?
Speaker 2: I'm I know you're joking. Around. But I'm being dead
Speaker 2: serious about this right now. I really am, because I
Speaker 2: because you're telling me this is your life dream. And
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here, I'm on the computer Google and how
Speaker 2: much goats are? And I want this to be a
Speaker 2: thing where you realize that you actually can achieve your
Speaker 2: dream by only saving you know, all right? Are you
Speaker 2: with me on this?
Speaker 1: I am with you on it?
Speaker 2: Okay? All right? So all right, so you need eight
Speaker 2: hundred bucks to get two goats? All right? How much
Speaker 2: is a cow? Cow is a little more expensive. Cow
Speaker 2: is nine hundred dollars. So you need to save seventeen
Speaker 2: hundred dollars to achieve your life's goal. That's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: You could do that. See you can see this is
Speaker 2: the thing. Everyone thinks that their goals are are out
Speaker 2: of reach. But you know what takes the time to
Speaker 2: you know, google, google them?
Speaker 1: So I just need to google more.
Speaker 2: Well is he you said your name was?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh? Wait, can you give me a name? I
Speaker 1: know you give everyone names because you forget them and
Speaker 1: then you remembered mine, and I'm kind of let down
Speaker 1: by that, So I would like you to give me
Speaker 1: a name of.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to give you a name. You
Speaker 2: I remembered your name. Dang.
Speaker 1: The one time.
Speaker 2: I feel like, uh, well, is there anything you wanted
Speaker 2: to actually talk about?
Speaker 1: No, I just I never thought you'd actually answer, so
Speaker 1: I never like prepared anything to talk about. So this
Speaker 1: is just like my goal.
Speaker 3: This is a goal.
Speaker 1: It's been completed now, so thank you.
Speaker 2: Well, all right, seventeen hundred bucks between you and your goal.
Speaker 2: All you got it? You can you can save that
Speaker 2: with your you know, uh hr nippie money. You can
Speaker 2: get there, definitely, all right? Send me send me a
Speaker 2: picture of the goat, or don't. I don't have enough spot.
Speaker 2: I don't have I don't have a lot of space
Speaker 2: on my phone anymore. I I've been saving uh uh
Speaker 2: too many Uh I've been I've been downloading a lot
Speaker 2: of games. So I don't have a space on my phone.
Speaker 2: So actually, don't send me a picture of the goat?
Speaker 3: Is he?
Speaker 2: Is there anything else?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 2: I say to the people of the computer before we.
Speaker 1: Go, go buy more goats?
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