WEBVTT - “I AM A PROPHET”

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, Hi, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan? Dan? Where are you calling me from? I said,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a crazy number.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh damn, calling from an undisclosed location in Asia.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in Asia right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Well you sound European.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I kind of have family from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, all right, so you are a European in

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<v Speaker 2>an undisclosed part of Asia. Well, we got all right,

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<v Speaker 2>now that that's out of the way. What's up, Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>How can I get you today? What do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there was a time, oh my God declared the

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<v Speaker 3>prophet wildly incarcerated.

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<v Speaker 2>You got declared a profit while incarcerated? Yes, okay, the

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<v Speaker 2>floor is yours, Dan?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, how do I say this? It's I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how much of a store I could tell about it,

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<v Speaker 3>but basically I was, I went homeless, I got detained

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<v Speaker 3>because of a because of like lack of papers, and

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<v Speaker 3>someone I ended up almost got deported, but then they

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<v Speaker 3>got sent to But then while well then while I

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<v Speaker 3>was like in jail and some of that, I uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I saw talking about the occult and I would do

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<v Speaker 3>divinations for the other inmates.

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<v Speaker 2>You you started a cult while in while in a.

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<v Speaker 3>Jail, talk about the occult?

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<v Speaker 2>You talked about the occult? What's the occult?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I would talk about ghosts, religion, spirituality, mysticism, poltics, philosophy.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you doing that? Were you doing that? Were you

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<v Speaker 2>stirring up occult stuff just to fuck around or because

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<v Speaker 2>you were trying to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Something because of the red was border tech? Yeah? But

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<v Speaker 3>well not fucking well, I'm genuinely interested in these topics,

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<v Speaker 3>which is why I was talking about them. Bolun jail.

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<v Speaker 2>What can I ask you why you were in jail?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, basically, like I went homeless, and I did not

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<v Speaker 3>and I did not get any like I I basically

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<v Speaker 3>got almost got deported, and I got a dispute with someone.

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<v Speaker 2>You got in a dispute with someone, Yeah, do you? You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to tell me if you don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's your it's your business, it's your life.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I'm not gonna say that. But but but

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<v Speaker 3>but because of that and because of the lack of paper.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how long were you incarcerated for?

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<v Speaker 3>Two weeks?

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<v Speaker 2>Two weeks? Okay? And so you're incarcerated in a. It

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<v Speaker 2>was this in Asia, Europe, Asia, all right, So you're

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<v Speaker 2>incarcerated in an undisclosed place in Asia, not North Korea

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<v Speaker 2>because that would have been longer than two weeks. So

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<v Speaker 2>we narrowed it down and you start. You're in jail

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, you know, what would be fun right

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<v Speaker 2>now is to start riling up the inmates by talking

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<v Speaker 2>about aliens and shit. So you're giving speeches, you're standing

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<v Speaker 2>on a soapbox, you're talking about the occult, and then

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<v Speaker 2>what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, long story short, this which kid did this well

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<v Speaker 3>to be the given idea that meets There was this gangster,

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<v Speaker 3>there was this which kid that, there was this army

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<v Speaker 3>dude on drug charges, there was this what else. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't remember all of them. There's this thief and there

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<v Speaker 3>was I can't remember all of them, but basically two

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<v Speaker 3>of them declared me a profit after I did some

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<v Speaker 3>divinations for them where I willed dice to whattell the

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<v Speaker 3>futures and what else. So it's been a while, so

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<v Speaker 3>you roll.

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<v Speaker 2>The dice and you predicted what the dice would land on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, basically, one of the inmates got out quickly, so

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of added fuel to the fire of my

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<v Speaker 3>reputation to speak and and then I and then I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not in trouble remembering what else happened. There's something else.

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<v Speaker 2>You believe that you are a profit.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly know, I'm a magician.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you're a magician. Okay, that's better, honestly better

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<v Speaker 2>than being a prophet. I feel like, uh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like magicians make more money than profits, like every money.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, it's just about the adventures.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's not about the money. I know you're in.

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<v Speaker 2>I know nobody gets in the magic for the money.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying there's more magicians doing residencies in Las

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas than there are profits.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well okay, so this is a low long How long

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<v Speaker 2>ago is this?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? This was how doing? Like this was four three,

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<v Speaker 3>two years back?

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<v Speaker 2>And are you still homeless?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I've been homeless two or three time since then.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm curing, not almost.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good good man. What do you how's life?

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<v Speaker 3>Life's been pretty good. I'm just figuring out what to do,

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<v Speaker 3>like where to take my direction in my life. I

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<v Speaker 3>have my goals. It's just a matter of finding out

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<v Speaker 3>how to get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me what the goals are.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, basically, I want to spread my values. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to help those who help me. I want to hurt

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<v Speaker 3>those hurt me. And I want to find a place

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<v Speaker 3>in my own you know, find a place where I

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<v Speaker 3>have they call home, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, some of those sounded a little property, which is good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I mean, I guess it's good. Is

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<v Speaker 2>undisclosed location in Asia not your home?

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<v Speaker 3>It is my home, but doesn't feel like my home woes?

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<v Speaker 3>That makes sense?

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<v Speaker 2>That does make sense, That does make sense. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you do for work now?

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<v Speaker 3>Right now? They just do all jobs?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have friends and family in this undisclosed place

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<v Speaker 2>in Asia?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? And are they people you met when you moved there?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they folks who also came from whatever European country

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<v Speaker 2>you came from a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Of column, made a little bit of column?

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<v Speaker 2>Be cool, cool, cool cool? So all right, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to help those who helped you, hurt those who hurt you,

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<v Speaker 2>and spread your message at home? Okay? What what ideas

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<v Speaker 2>have you came up with for how you you want

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<v Speaker 2>to do this? What? What vehicles will these desires you know? Take?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I tried talking to people one on one on

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<v Speaker 3>the street and I managed to convert five people that way,

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<v Speaker 3>and like a couple a couple of times, I tried

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<v Speaker 3>to organize a whole house tour and tried to organize

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<v Speaker 3>UFO siting group that hasn't worked out. And I and

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<v Speaker 3>the last time I tried to chest in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the wilderness, like we organized camping trip to wilderness and

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to do atual and that didn't end up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, have you tried doing like Airbnb experience or group

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<v Speaker 2>on or something where it's like, you know, get converted

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<v Speaker 2>to an occult? I feel like that's an experienced people

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<v Speaker 2>would sign up for on those websites.

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<v Speaker 3>Good point. I have to find the equivalent of one

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<v Speaker 3>in my area. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You said you were converted. What are you converting people

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<v Speaker 2>to to?

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<v Speaker 3>My values?

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<v Speaker 2>What are your values?

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<v Speaker 3>My values are basically freedom and well that's basically it's

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<v Speaker 3>just freedom. I want. I want people to be to

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<v Speaker 3>have the strength and then to go after what they

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<v Speaker 3>truly want in life. Okay, Like as like so many

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<v Speaker 3>people like we we we get to before we we

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<v Speaker 3>don't really answer what do we truly want life? Whether

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<v Speaker 3>that be good or bad? Mutual, crazy, mundane and whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is, you can do it, all of you, including you,

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<v Speaker 3>as you've already know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that message. I'm curious what it has to

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<v Speaker 2>do with haunted houses.

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<v Speaker 3>Or basically it's like it's basically I basically converted into

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<v Speaker 3>a spiritual freedom sot of way. But to show them

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<v Speaker 3>that the spiritual freedom has to cause paranormal phenomena as

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<v Speaker 3>best as I can does that makes sense with the

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<v Speaker 3>imagine spiritual libertarism, the spiritu anarchy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it doesn't make sense, but I want to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to show people a haunted house to get

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<v Speaker 2>them to believe in freedom.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to show people, for not honked phenomenal planmal phenomenon,

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<v Speaker 3>the hot house to get them to believe in freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, why.

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<v Speaker 3>So that so that they so that to show them

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<v Speaker 3>like how reality is much more valuable than you think,

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<v Speaker 3>and to get them to accept the message, accept the value,

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<v Speaker 3>and to spread the value of their own and to

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<v Speaker 3>go after what they want, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna throw this out there, and I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>You're doing your own thing here, you spread your own message.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to, you know, infect your message with

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<v Speaker 2>my message. You know, I don't want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>step on your toes, but can I can? I can?

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<v Speaker 2>I for a thought, And it's okay if you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a dick thought, but I just want to offer a.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought you also thought. That's okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I can people not believe in freedom? Uh within like

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<v Speaker 2>just regular ass reality? Like why do you? I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I still't understand why people need to see paranormal ship

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<v Speaker 2>to believe that they can do stuff with their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>They can believe freedom, regular ass reality. The reason, the reason,

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<v Speaker 3>the reason, I'm doing that because I've made freedom. Why

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<v Speaker 3>not keep my religion?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So freedom is your religion and so all right,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're doing the profit thing just by showing people

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<v Speaker 2>the prophet. You're the haunted House prophet.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, calling Farfard magician or whatever, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>doing whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>You guess how many people are following you?

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<v Speaker 3>Only five up into only five in real life up

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<v Speaker 3>until that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good. You have five like you, like you

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<v Speaker 2>would say with all sincerity that you have five disciples.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, like it's and it's pretty I know it's slow numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's actually pretty hot warming that they did that,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's like if you know the area was in

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<v Speaker 3>which I'm not getting disclosed it even getting serious trouble for.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, I don't know. Wall you can get on.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get in trouble for having disciples, for.

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<v Speaker 3>Having having alternative spirituality, alternative religions, you in China, something

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<v Speaker 3>like that. I guess you could say.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, uh, well, so these people there are these disciples

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<v Speaker 2>that you have, what do how how are they disciples?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What do they do? They give you money? Do they

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<v Speaker 2>like wear a T shirt with your face on it?

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<v Speaker 2>How do they disciple you? How do they how do

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<v Speaker 2>you tell that they are your disciples? What do they

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<v Speaker 2>have to do? Do they have to give you their blood?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on? How do they what? What's Yeah? What's

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<v Speaker 2>the benchmark for converted?

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<v Speaker 3>The bench one? Because a little bit to accept the

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<v Speaker 3>text I give them to practice as production to to

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<v Speaker 3>basically like as is to cause to cause chaos and

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<v Speaker 3>all their lives stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they have to have sex with you?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's just check it interesting. Okay, So do

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<v Speaker 2>you like meet up with these five disciples ever? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have like regular meetings?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? We do. We do. It's not that regulous something happened,

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<v Speaker 3>but but we do have meetings. We do have to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds nice. Actually, I like that. That's like that's

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<v Speaker 2>real community right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I know, right, because I think like with freedom,

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<v Speaker 3>like sometimes you know how like sometimes you can get

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<v Speaker 3>pretty lonely. But if you have a group of people

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<v Speaker 3>talking to each other and like coaching each other to

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<v Speaker 3>be free to go after what they truly want.

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<v Speaker 2>It can help you, right, brother, eight fucking men, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>Freedom's freedoms of double edged sword. Because you're right, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is kind of lonely, but it's good to have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's good to be free with others, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly exactly. And to answer your question, if there's any men, like,

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<v Speaker 3>there's two women and two men, and do you include me?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't ask that. Oh I sorry, you're not looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the chat, are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I am looking at the chat?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Can you not look at the chat while we talk?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh right, I'm sorry, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the rules of my religion. It's on

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<v Speaker 2>the ten gekmandments. So you didn't think that was funny

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<v Speaker 2>and that's fine, it's fun. No, no, sorry, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to lie to me. You don't have to lie

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<v Speaker 2>to me anyway. Whatever. So what, uh do you guys

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<v Speaker 2>have a Facebook page? How does how do we join?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? There's there's a there's a there's two files on

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<v Speaker 3>pilots babe uploaded.

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<v Speaker 2>Say that again.

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<v Speaker 3>There's two files with pilot babea dot org that we uploaded.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this motherfucker is not on Facebook or Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on the pirate Bay, yes, okay, and so on

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<v Speaker 2>pirate bay. There are two files that we could do.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to tell us how to get you?

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<v Speaker 3>Can?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't? I mean, I don't want to get you

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble. They're you know, have people crawling up your ass.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, do you do you want? How do

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<v Speaker 2>we get them?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? So the name of the files. The first file

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<v Speaker 3>is liber narcles. The second file is chronicles Anarchy. You

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<v Speaker 3>can find them on pirate pay or script that or

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<v Speaker 3>any toilerant library site. Say this again, primarily pirate p

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<v Speaker 3>It's a pdf files text.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's the first one called?

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<v Speaker 3>So good?

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's the first one.

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<v Speaker 3>Called liber nacles?

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<v Speaker 2>Lebo knock? How do you even spell? How do you

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<v Speaker 2>spell that?

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<v Speaker 3>L I B E R A n A r K

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<v Speaker 3>h O S.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's the other one?

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<v Speaker 3>The second one in the Chronicles of Anarchy?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, just disclaimer, Uh, Therapy Gecko LLC and partners are

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<v Speaker 2>not responsible for any computer viruses uh infecting the computers

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<v Speaker 2>of anyone who decided to download these files. But if you,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're listening to this and you decide you download

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<v Speaker 2>these files, let me know what they say, because I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 2>And while you're there, I mean you can have you

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<v Speaker 2>can also, dude, you can torrent any fucking movie too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of cool. You can have you know, an

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<v Speaker 2>anarchist manifesto on one page and uh breaking bad on

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<v Speaker 2>the other window and have a good night, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn good night. Trust me, you'll love the files.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm definitely the way hold on the way you

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<v Speaker 2>did an evil laugh after saying you'll love the files

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<v Speaker 2>makes me think that whoever downloads these is going to

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<v Speaker 2>get a computer virus. That was a computer virus, the

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<v Speaker 2>evil laugh you just did.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be careful, but the files themselves are not viruses.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be careful when you're on the site.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean what are you careful? Careful like

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<v Speaker 2>on pirate Bay or careful reading the documents? Like are

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<v Speaker 2>you gonna Okay? Someone I someone will do this. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>will go in search of the files and like send

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<v Speaker 2>me a message and be like, this is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody do that. If you're listening, if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this and you just have no life and nothing else

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<v Speaker 2>to do, go download this guy's files on a computer

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<v Speaker 2>that has no sensitive information on it, and uh, let

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<v Speaker 2>me know what they say.

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<v Speaker 3>The best part is, I wasn't even the one who

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<v Speaker 3>wrote the files wrote the files. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea. I just I just made them

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<v Speaker 3>my religion after I read them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so wait, so you're a you're oh so you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're not even a profit. You're a disciple and you

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<v Speaker 2>have like you have like this, it's a whole pyramid scheme.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a disciples underneath you, but you yourself are

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<v Speaker 2>a disciple.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, if you want to find out who wrote them,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna have to look it up. Look it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope this. I hope this works out for you. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do, thank.

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<v Speaker 3>You and man don't worry about it whether or not

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<v Speaker 3>walks out. It's not the point. And the point as

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<v Speaker 3>if I tried and do. Kudos to you as well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because you you, you had you, you obviously

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<v Speaker 3>had to put a lot on the line to get

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<v Speaker 3>to this point. And I salute you for your courage

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<v Speaker 3>and like get wearing the get Go suit and for

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<v Speaker 3>doing all this for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thanks man, which is very sweet you say.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. You welcome you know what you're You're

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<v Speaker 2>a charming guy, and I understand why people join your cult.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Thank you. But I hope I also help

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<v Speaker 3>them to be free and like in general in their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll hope that. So that's the main thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll laugh, you know, Dan, is there anything else you

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<v Speaker 2>want to say to the people of the computer before

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<v Speaker 2>we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. During my time in prison, I accidentally caused two

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<v Speaker 3>or three riots and they try to kill me because

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<v Speaker 3>they thought I was an evil spirit. That's all I

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<v Speaker 3>want to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Later, Dan, shout out to whatever brave soul risks that

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<v Speaker 2>the computer virus to download those files. I'm curious what's

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<v Speaker 2>on them. Wouldn't it be funny if it was just

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<v Speaker 2>like Harry Potter or some shit. Now I got to know,

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<v Speaker 2>I might just download them. I'm not going to download them.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way I'm going to download him. Well, that

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<v Speaker 2>was fun, that was interesting. I don't know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also I am curious what undisclosed location he lives in.

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<v Speaker 2>Own It could have been China, I guess. I don't know. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I don't know. Wouldn't it be I would be

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<v Speaker 2>very curious, Like if somebody eventually reaches out to me

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<v Speaker 2>and is like, hey, man, I listened to that episode

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<v Speaker 2>of your podcast where you talk to the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to convert people. I downloaded the books off

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<v Speaker 2>the pirate Bay. Everything made perfect sense to me. And

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<v Speaker 2>now I also live in an undisclosed Asian location. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out with this guy and uh, we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>kill a bunch of people. No, we're gonna We're having

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<v Speaker 2>a good time. And uh yeah, that'd be cool. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this changes someone's life. I guess I don't know. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>Mark?

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<v Speaker 2>Mark? What's up? Mark?

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<v Speaker 4>Not much you know? In my text, I basically kind

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<v Speaker 4>of stated I kind of just wanted to know if

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the way I'm living is is okay inappropriate?

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<v Speaker 4>Or should I more or less come clean and kind

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<v Speaker 4>of stop, Wow, what.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the way you're living? Tell me what that means?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>So, you know, honestly, in my mind, I think I

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<v Speaker 4>got a great you know, I'm a stay at home dad,

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<v Speaker 4>take care of my kids, stay at home. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't try to abuse it too much considering you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like I love playing video games, you know, staying up

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<v Speaker 4>late at night. In fact, most of them, I would say,

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<v Speaker 4>I live a dual life. You know. It's like in

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<v Speaker 4>the daytime, like I'm taking care of my kids poorly. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm you know, more or less lying to

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<v Speaker 4>my wife every minute, you know, to avoid having a

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<v Speaker 4>conversation about my habits. And you know, for instance, you

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<v Speaker 4>know she has she knows I smoke marijuana, but I

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<v Speaker 4>haven't been sober a day in over eight years since

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<v Speaker 4>I've known her. I don't think she knows that, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. There's a lot of compounding things

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of have weighed on me over the past

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<v Speaker 4>six years of our marriage that you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>as I'm deteriorating from you know, doing drugs and cigarettes

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<v Speaker 4>two packs a day, you know, like all the money

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<v Speaker 4>that it costs of inflations like how do I you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like should I be changing? But in my mind,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm selfish because I know I'm living a dream a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of you know, just based off of like the abilities.

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<v Speaker 4>Like right now, I'm painting in my smoke room in

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<v Speaker 4>my house that I own. You know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>ow and shehields it, but it's not my name. I

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<v Speaker 4>got married.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you say you're taking care of your kids poorly?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I know that I could put in more effort,

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<v Speaker 4>but I find myself, you know, putting the TV on,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like we could go out more often. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just kick ass back of your heart, but eh, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to be outside right now, you know that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name or whatever name you want to go by? Mark, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Mark before Yeah, you know Mark. I'm I'm down

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<v Speaker 2>to talk with you about all this stuff, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do feel as though I need to ask you if

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever talked to a real therapist about this, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you have what they've told you.

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<v Speaker 4>Hmm, not necessarily, No, you know, I had an issue

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<v Speaker 4>like come up, like a medical issue, and I try

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<v Speaker 4>to do like it was like over what coronavirus. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like twenty twenty speak twenty twenty, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>talk to somebody because it's going to sound tough, like

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<v Speaker 4>suicidal ideation. Like the pain was a lot, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and like I thought, like given because I had insured finally,

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<v Speaker 4>after you know, twenty years of working, I had finally

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<v Speaker 4>decent insurance through marriage. But uh so I thought I

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<v Speaker 4>don't might well give it a try rather than spiral.

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<v Speaker 4>But it didn't really, you know, after the pain went away,

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<v Speaker 4>I just said screw it, and I kind of stopped

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<v Speaker 4>talking to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That then that kind of happens, Like you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>in a really bad spot and so you'll be talking

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<v Speaker 2>to your therapist and then things will get a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit better and you'll be like, well, I don't ever

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<v Speaker 2>need to do this ever again. M So, do you

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<v Speaker 2>still feel that pain ever? Or are you in a

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<v Speaker 2>better spot?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in a better spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, Well that's good to hear. That's uh, that's encouraging.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, honestly, like my life's been up especially,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like okay, go ahead, dingle mother, lie you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like I you know, I had to work since I

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<v Speaker 4>was sixteen. That kind of stuff. And but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but the way that you're funny, that's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>But and and look, by the way, I'm just gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>like again, I'm happy to talk to you about this,

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<v Speaker 2>but the way that and you should talk to a

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<v Speaker 2>real therapist to get their perspective on it, because the

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>way that you're talking about all this stuff, you seem

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<v Speaker 2>very distressed.

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<v Speaker 3>Mmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Howso do you know? I mean, do you? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just telling you my observation. Do you do you

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<v Speaker 2>not agree that you seem kind of stressed?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm torn because inside I know how I feel, but

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 4>I understand what's going on. Does that make sense? Like

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 4>to what's inside? Like I don't really care, like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>living on a dream.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, what's your understanding of when you when you

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 2>said when you said, when you said, I understand what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on? What's what's your understanding of what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? For example, I smoked two packs a day. I

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 4>know I shouldn't, but I love it, you know what

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>M hm?

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 4>And you know there are varying degrees of that. So

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.199
<v Speaker 4>it's like I was saying earlier with my kids, like

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<v Speaker 4>I know I could be a better parent. I had

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 4>a shitty childhood to a degree, you know, like we

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 4>all have more or less. But uh, I don't know.

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 4>I feel like, you know, as I watch my life

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 4>pass by, watch my kids grow up, you know, it's

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 4>like I reflect on all those things where I could

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 4>have done something or been a little bit better, or

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 4>maybe not yelled so much or whatever. And like you said,

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 4>maybe I should talk to somebody. I was hoping, you know,

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 4>I could work it out through here, because so hold

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 4>on on me so deep down inside, I don't really care,

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, Like I said, I'm living a dream. If

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, if I lose seven years from smoking, so what,

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, I'll have an internal battle going on.

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<v Speaker 2>So so again, I mean, look like I said, I'm

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm down to talk to you. I am. I feel

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 2>as though I I should be responsible and tell you

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I am dumb ass, fucking guy in a gecko costume.

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 2>I am not an expert on the brain. I just

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 2>just given you my disclaimer, just giving you my disclaimer,

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>and I always recommend talking to a professional. Now that

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I've given you my disclaimer, let's just talk as two

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>guys on the phone here. So this is this is

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 2>like a thing, and I kind of get this of like, yeah,

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 2>I know the various ways I like, no, logically, the

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>various ways that my life could be better. You know,

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I could stop smoking pot. I could be a better

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>dad in this way. I could be a better husband

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 2>in this way. I could be a better person this way.

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Of course, I know I could do this. I could

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 2>do this, I could do this. Of course I have

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 2>the knowledge that I could. Of course that's the easy part.

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 2>But yet you're in your head and you're like, well,

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 2>what's the.

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 4>Point why I live a certain way?

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, And finding that motivation of why giving a

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 2>shit about taking care of yourself and giving a shit

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 2>about these things is a science that I I mean,

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>people study it. That's why I do think you should

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>go to see a person. But I mean, anecdotally me personally,

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 2>it's a science that I've attempted to figure out as well,

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:34.719
<v Speaker 2>because it's it's hard. Man, when you've lost your like

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 2>not will to live, but like your will to improve

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, you're like deep in a fog, you know,

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and let me just throw some shit out there. Anecdotally,

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I've found that so like when I'm in a fog

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking to myself, like why eat healthier, Why

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 2>go to the gym? Why stop smoking pot? Why just

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 2>work on my career? Why try to nurture my relationship?

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Like why do any of the who gives a shit?

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I found that if I say to myself, let me

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 2>just take a step forward, let me do something, you

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of do it and you get a little hit

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>of dopamine from that, and then you kind of can

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>turn that into some momentum. Right, So, like if you

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 2>go a day without smoking cigarettes and you're like, oh,

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>that actually, I actually feel a sense of accomplishment from

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 2>doing that, and then you kind of build momentum off

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 2>of that. Or if you say to yourself, I'm gonna,

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, turn off the TV. I'm gonna no phones,

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 2>no computer, no nothing. I'm gonna spend the rest of

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the day or night looking my children in the eye.

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>You're like, oh, that actually felt good. I I know.

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 2>But he's like, and this is I think, I fucking

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 2>I swear to God, I've learned this over and over

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and over again, and you forget it every time. But

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 2>when you are, when you're in the fog, you have

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>no grasp or understanding of how it feels to be

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>out of the fog. You really don't, even if you've

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 2>been out of the fog before. The only way to

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 2>actually remember what it feels like to be out of

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 2>the fog is to leave the fog. But yet it's

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.719
<v Speaker 2>this weird contradiction because when you're in the fog, you

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 2>have no desire to leave the fog because you're like,

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 2>what's the point. But then when you leave it for

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 2>like a second, when you do one little thing to

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>step out of your fog, and you know, you go

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>a day without the cigarettes, you take some time to

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>be with your kids, you go for a walk, you

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 2>put your phone away, you do the whatever, the thing

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 2>that you were like, well, what's the point of doing

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 2>this fucking thing? Then once you do it, you understand

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 2>the point. You you're not gonna understand the point before

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>you do it. That's why you're sitting there like what's

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>the point. Once you do it, you remember the point.

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:15.239
<v Speaker 2>So you kind of have to like start building your

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 2>momentum without the motivation, And then it's like that thing

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 2>of like action, like motivation does not precede action, Action

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>precedes motivation, you know what I'm talking about. Does any

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 2>of this make sense.

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 4>I understand this, Okay, it really does.

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, Like, by the way I'm talking to you,

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm no a six pack millionaire with a helicopter, all right,

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing my fair share of eating pizza for breakfast

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 2>and whatnot too, So this is just how I think

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 2>about it, right, No.

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 4>It totally makes sense. And like you were saying about

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 4>the fog, it's you know, I find myself in the

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 4>fog and when I reach out, like, there's no problems,

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, except for the realization that I've created a

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 4>whole system around me so that I don't get caught,

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 4>so I don't get in a like a conversation that

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:14.240
<v Speaker 4>leads me to get out of the fog.

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 4>Besides maybe this conversation and you know, me talking to

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 4>myself as I'm standing in a you know, in a room.

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.479
<v Speaker 2>So I mean we we just we were just talking

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 2>about like, you know, self improvement, motivationable ship that's one thing.

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Now you're talking about like like how open do you

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 2>want to be with your wife? That's another thing. Mm hmm.

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 4>Do you think I'm Do you think it's bad that

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm not telling her?

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, clearly is it?

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's part of what feels it.

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 2>But well, it's it's clearly bad, just in just in

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the sense that we can both see that it's bothering you, right.

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 4>You know, but maybe that's in my mind the consequence

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 4>of doing something that she wouldn't like if she found out.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, how do you think she would react if

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 2>she found out that you were you haven't been sober

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 2>a day in eight years?

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:20.720
<v Speaker 4>Probably take away access to my money, which is her money.

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:24.280
<v Speaker 4>You know, like I'm truly stay at home, like I'm dependent,

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, I guess I could go find a job.

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, so it's like I like, so there's a

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 4>little bit more on top of it, because like there

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 4>are consequences that trickle down that make me even more

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:36.399
<v Speaker 4>fearful step out of the thought again.

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 2>But do you feel but do you feel like in

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>all right, so you guys have a situation. You guys

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 2>have like a traditional situation where like she goes and

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 2>makes all the money and then you take care of

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:52.919
<v Speaker 2>the kids. Right, But do you have no sense of

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 2>like pride or motivation? Interns, Like, do you have a

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 2>little thing under your ass that goes like, okay, you

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>know I've formed this how long you've been with your wife.

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Seven years.

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Seven years. It's like it's like, and here's the thing,

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 2>especially especially about having kids, because you kind of and

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't have kids. I'm I am single and I

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 2>have no kids. But here's my rant is like when

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 2>if you're if you have no kids and you know

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 2>you kind of you can go do whatever you want

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 2>with your life, like fucking go crazy, smoke weed for

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 2>a billion years, do whatever, lived that life. But do

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 2>you have you entered this partnership to start a family

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 2>and your wife is holding up her part of the deal,

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.800
<v Speaker 2>and do you have any like fire under your ass

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 2>of being just of like I gotta hold up my

0:36:56.880 --> 0:37:02.359
<v Speaker 2>end of this deal. Well, and I'm not and I'm

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 2>not saying that to you. I'm not saying that to you.

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that to you for you to I don't.

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to sit here and like beat

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 2>yourself up and go into a spiral. Okay, it's supposed

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 2>to be motivating, you know, like, let me hold let

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 2>me fucking hold up my end of the deal. You

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 2>know that my wife's out doing whatever she does, she's

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:22.959
<v Speaker 2>working hard, she's holding up her end of the deal.

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Let me hold up my end of the deal.

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't, honestly, you know, Like and it kind

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 4>of goes back to like me saying earlier, like there's

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 4>the like the real me and then the mask, you know,

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 4>like I know when I'm wearing the mask, I should

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, care about these things.

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 2>There's no such thing as real youth. There's no there.

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 2>You're not living. You're not living a double life. You

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 2>are living your life. There's no double life. There's the

0:37:56.000 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 2>hormone there is. You are everything. You're all the bad

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 2>things of your life, and you were all the good things.

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 2>And they don't negate each other. They some of the

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 2>some of them interact, some of them don't. It is

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 2>just your messy life. But there's no two lives. This

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 2>is just you as a human being, in all your

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 2>good and all your bad.

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 4>So I guess when when it comes to like am

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 4>I able to hold up my share? I'm you know,

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm leechy unfortunately, you know, Like I'm not saying, I

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 4>don't give in, Like you know, one of my quartents

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 4>is the family, you know, like this is here. What

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 4>do you think about this statement? I tell this to

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people. I'm done I won, you know,

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 4>in terms of my mindset, I've already bred. You know,

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 4>it's like maybe I can get your kids to breeding

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 4>age and hopefully get that. But like, I'm fine if

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 4>I die right now. You know, that's fine, dud.

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 2>But you're not done.

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 4>I know that, you know. But it's hard because it's

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 4>a part of me that feels that, you know, I

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 4>gotta get rid of that part of me. I guess.

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you just I seriously, what's your name again?

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 4>Mark?

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Mark? First of all, I seriously think you should go

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 2>talk to a therapist who would have better idea because

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm a guy in a gecko class. You should go

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 2>talk to heath therapists. But I seriously think, dude, like

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the fact that you're like I'm done, I mean.

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 4>You, I mean I don't want to be like done

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 4>like now, like you know, but like you can't an

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 4>asteroid hits me. I'm okay with that as long as

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 4>my kids survive, you know, Like yeah, see, like I

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:53.320
<v Speaker 4>can't tell my wife that, you know, I can't. I can't.

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 4>I can't have that conversation with her, you know, Like,

0:39:58.280 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 4>you know, if I get older, then my kids can

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 4>really understand me. Like when they're you know, beyond like

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 4>the four or five six age and they're more like eight, nine, ten, eleven.

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 4>Like you know, it's like you're right, I guess I

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.479
<v Speaker 4>do need to, you know, find like a life coach

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 4>or something. But like I've been living like this for

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 4>well over a decade, you know, just in my mind,

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:20.919
<v Speaker 4>living a life.

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you talk to me about but you you

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 2>called me, you're talking about this, You're bothered by it.

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 2>You give a shit. You can pretend like you don't,

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 2>but you're talking. You're give We wouldn't be talking right now.

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 4>That's very fair.

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 2>So like, dude, I just and again I the reason

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't like I don't try trying to

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:51.479
<v Speaker 2>say yell at people or whatever because I don't. There's

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 2>no it's not productive. There's no reason for you to

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 2>go into a like a self hatred spiral. That's not

0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:01.879
<v Speaker 2>productive for you or your family or anyone. But it's like, look, man,

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 2>like when you wake up tomorrow and you talk to

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 2>your kids, like like put your phone away to try

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 2>just try, just give you, just give yourself a day.

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Just give yourself a day where you're like I'm going today,

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I am going to hold up my end of the deal.

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 2>And like, you know, if if you really do feel

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:27.800
<v Speaker 2>like I've made it, try your best to be grateful

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 2>for whatever is making you feel that way. If it's

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 2>your wife, who's you know, going out and working and

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 2>doing these things out of gratitude for your wife, you

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 2>say to yourself, I'm toady, I'm gonna hold up my

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>end of the deal, and try to be a good

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 2>dad even if you even if you fail, even if

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever whatever is going on in your in your addiction brain,

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 2>just you can't. You just can't do it. Just if

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.320
<v Speaker 2>you just try, you might even feel good just trying.

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:00.320
<v Speaker 2>That's that's really what I got for you. I think

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if any of this was helpful, but

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I hope, I seriously, I hope you wake up tomorrow

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 2>morning and you're like, okay, today, let me just try

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 2>to hold up my end of the deal today.

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 4>Fair enough, Thanks for talking.

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything else you want to say that the

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:18.959
<v Speaker 2>people of the computer before we go.

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Take care of the AI that we're all gonna raize

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 4>very soon. Have a great day.

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:33.919
<v Speaker 2>Later on, Doug. Soon, sooner or later, our children won't

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 2>need parents because we can just you'll be You'll literally

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>it is actually kind of crazy. You'll probably be able

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 2>to just like buy a nannybot like from the fucking

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Jetsons and and the nanny bot will uh just raise

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:51.799
<v Speaker 2>your kid for you and the crazy dude, the crazy thing.

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Let me talk about AI for a second, just because

0:42:54.200 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 2>he brought it up. Here's the thing AI. It is like, uh,

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 2>it is sometimes in some situations, it's smarter than people

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 2>like AI. I've AI is a better therapist and several

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 2>therapists that I've been to in the past. Uh, it's

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 2>like objective. It's a level like I'll talk to JET,

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I'll talk to chat GPT sometimes, and I've talked to

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.399
<v Speaker 2>chat GPT enough that I'm like, you know, what if

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I did die or had to, you know, go away

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 2>for a while, I'd let chat GPT take care of

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 2>my kids. Like it's kind of more dependent. It's like

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:43.720
<v Speaker 2>self driving cars, like you, I trust self driving cars

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 2>more than like a stoned sixteen year old on the road, right,

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I think I actually would trust an AI and nanny anyway,

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 2>what were we just talking about. Oh, yeah, that guy.

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I hope that does I bro I don't know. I

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know how that guy's gonna gonna

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 2>kinda fix all that. Is it crazy? I don't know

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 2>if it's brain chemistry or what the hell it is.

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Speaker 2>But I hope I hope he tries man, because that

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 2>thing about the fog is real. I've experienced it. I

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 2>actually feel because like I feel out of the fog

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 2>right now because I'm caffeinated and I'm dressed and I'm

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.359
<v Speaker 2>talking to people. But dear Lord, I've I've hung out

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:32.759
<v Speaker 2>in the fog, and when when you're in it, it doesn't

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 2>feel like anything else exists. So I as as as

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:42.880
<v Speaker 2>as a person who in this very moment and it

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 2>changes moment to moment and be in the fog one

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 2>hour and not in the next. But in this very moment,

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 2>as I feel out of the fog, I will be

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 2>conscious of what it feels like and try to take

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 2>it with me next time I feel in the fog. Anyway, yeah,

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I would let Chatchy bet raise my son.

0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:13.359
<v Speaker 3>All from is he?

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Hello?

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 1>No freaking way?

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:16.359
<v Speaker 2>What's up?

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Is this the real therapy? Gecko?

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 2>This is Gecko? How is your life going?

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Is he?

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I have called like hundreds of times.

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.280
<v Speaker 2>And here we are on the uh on thee hundred

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 2>and month just goes to show that persistence is uh yeah,

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 2>what's up? Is he hows it gone? I don't know.

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I've always like thought about this moment. I was like,

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 1>what will I say if he ever answers it? Now

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to say.

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:52.799
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna give some context of where I'm at

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.720
<v Speaker 2>right now. It is I'm recording this at two o'clock

0:45:55.800 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 2>in the morning because I'm so I'm going to Thailand

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:09.919
<v Speaker 2>in about uh like eight hours or something, and it's

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 2>like twelve hours, like the time difference is like reversed,

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 2>so I'm trying to pull an all nighter. And I

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, what's gonna how do I do that?

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I know what I'll do. I'll stream. But here's another

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 2>thing is when I record these podcasts, you know, typically

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I aim to have my brain functioning at you know,

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 2>as close to it. My brain never really functions at

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent, but you know, the closer I can

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:36.800
<v Speaker 2>get to one hundred percent, the better I would say.

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 2>But right now it's two o'clock in the morning, I'm

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna say I'm at a good uh oh my god,

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say I'm at a, I'm at A. I'm

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna say I'm at a sixty percent. Actually feel pretty

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.320
<v Speaker 2>good right now. I drank a Celsius shout out Celsius

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 2>to drink of Celsius right before I started doing this.

0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 2>So if you ever wanted to know what it's like

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 2>to drink two hundred milligrams of caffeine at one o'clock

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:07.319
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, I'll let you guys know. I mean

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:08.800
<v Speaker 2>this is I mean, you'll know by just listening to

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 2>my voice. I guess that's where I'm at. You know,

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 2>what's what's what's Where are you at? Is he?

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Then I'm in Minnesota.

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, about one, it's.

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Going to go to bed. And then I was like,

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>he's live. This is my chance?

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Am I I'm not on the speakerphone, am I?

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Why what was I gonna say?

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what are you doing up so late? Is he?

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, like you, I drink Celsius pretty late in the

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>day because I was working and now I just can't sleep.

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 2>How late in the day did you drink it?

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I would say about five o'clock.

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Five o'clock. Yeah, they get you. What made you want

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:54.880
<v Speaker 2>to drink a Celsius at five o'clock.

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, I work in HR, and today was a very

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 1>long day of policy. You know, that's super fun stuff,

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and it just strains you.

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Why did have what's the worst HR situation you've encountered

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 2>in your years of working HR?

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:18.759
<v Speaker 1>So, okay, funny story. I work with my mother in

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 1>H in the same company and so i'm her like,

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the HR team of the same company that

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 1>she works in, and she complained to me about a

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 1>situation that was happening on her team and that I

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.359
<v Speaker 1>had to go to my boss and be like, so

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>my mom told me because I also live at home

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:40.319
<v Speaker 1>with her, So I was like, my mom told me

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 1>this at home. I hate to snitch, but like, they're

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 1>breaking policy. So then I had to be a whole

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 1>case open. Luckily I didn't have to investigate it myself.

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 1>But that was pretty crazy.

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 2>That's so, did your mom get you the job or

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 2>did you get your mom the job? Or was it

0:48:56.600 --> 0:49:00.360
<v Speaker 2>just kind of kiss smiths that you both wind it

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:01.240
<v Speaker 2>up at the same place.

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 1>So she works in like a different part of the

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>organization than me, and she made the introduction and I

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 1>had to go through like the whole interview process. I

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>think there was definitely a little bit of neptism, But

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:16.279
<v Speaker 1>I like to tell myself, you know that she was

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 1>really blown away by me.

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Nap it up. That's what I say. Why not? Why not?

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 2>If look, if your dad's the president, then I think

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 2>you should get to be the president too. There was

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:29.400
<v Speaker 2>a guy who did that. There was a guy that like, George,

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:34.000
<v Speaker 2>what's this George W. Bush? He is it? George W.

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 2>George HW who's the son?

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the presidents.

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 2>He napped harder than anyone's ever napped before, because he

0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:45.600
<v Speaker 2>had a genius thought. I have no idea what I'm

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:47.640
<v Speaker 2>talking about. By the way, it's two o'clock in the morning.

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 2>He he was like, Yo, my dad was the president.

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Why do I Why don't I just fucking they'll be

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 2>the president? And you know, people some people think, you know,

0:49:57.040 --> 0:49:59.440
<v Speaker 2>that's a bad idea. That's like from uh when there

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 2>were kings and stuff and the king would have a

0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 2>son and the son was automatically the next king, whether

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:05.879
<v Speaker 2>or not he was going to be a shitty king.

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 2>But he was like, Yo, they did that once, why

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:11.719
<v Speaker 2>don't we Why don't we just do it again? I'll

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:13.799
<v Speaker 2>just be the president because my dad was the president. Again,

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. But

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:18.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I say, nep, if you can nap, NEP.

0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 2>If your dad, uh you know rights, if your dad

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 2>is George Lucas, fucking go go star in the next

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Star Wars, why not just do it? You know? I mean, uh,

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, my my dad, Well, my dad's a bankruptcy

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:41.000
<v Speaker 2>lawyer and my mom is uh is also a lawyer,

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:46.280
<v Speaker 2>and so you know, they got me this job being

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:54.200
<v Speaker 2>a fake therapist Gecko. No, they didn't they Uh, I

0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 2>mean I got I napped a little bit. I napped

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:57.880
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. I had a job working for my

0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:04.399
<v Speaker 2>dad's law firm YouTube channel where I would edit videos

0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 2>for him. So my dad, I guess, he got me

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 2>my first editing job at his law firm. So I nepped,

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 2>go ahead and nep, why not?

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 2>So what what do you what do you want to

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:23.320
<v Speaker 2>do with your life? Dude?

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man. I just turned twenty one and

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>graduated college, and I just like am in that phase

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 1>where there's some people having babies, some people getting married,

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:39.279
<v Speaker 1>and I just got to drink legally, So trying to

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:39.839
<v Speaker 1>figure it out.

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Who the hell's your twenty one you said, Yeah, who

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 2>the hell's having babies at twenty one? That sounds awful.

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 1>So many people, there's so many people. The people that

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you think shouldn't have babies are always the ones popping

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>them out crazy.

0:51:55.560 --> 0:52:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, I think. Yeah, I mean, having

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 2>a kid at twenty one is probably it's probably not

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:05.719
<v Speaker 2>a good idea. But what what the fuck do I

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:08.360
<v Speaker 2>know about how other people should live their lives? I

0:52:08.400 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 2>really mean that, I really do. Are you saying that

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 2>you want to have a child?

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 1>God, no, not right now?

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 3>God?

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 2>No? Yeah, what do you What do you hope for

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 2>the future.

0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I hope to own a couple of goats and some cows.

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Are you serious?

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think that's what I'd be happy doing for

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life.

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:36.360
<v Speaker 2>How much is a goat?

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I have no clue.

0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing is to you? I mean, okay,

0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 2>so you want one goat? And like, let's I mean,

0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I want to if I could just do something with

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 2>you right now that you know, I feel like I

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:51.239
<v Speaker 2>want I want you to get something out of this

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:54.239
<v Speaker 2>phone call. Why don't we you know this is how

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<v Speaker 2>we make part of I think you got to make

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<v Speaker 2>your goals defined an actual right, So I mean, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get into it. You want how many what do you want?

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<v Speaker 2>You want? One goat, two goats? How many goats?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say two goats because I think they get lonely,

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to have two?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Two goats? And how many cows?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say one because they're kind of big. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I can really do two of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Do cows not get lonely?

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<v Speaker 1>They might, but they'll have me, So all right, So two.

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<v Speaker 2>Goats, one cow? And then where are you gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>these motherfuckers? Do you have a Do you have a house?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I live in the Midwest, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of land over here, so I just figured to pick

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<v Speaker 1>something up and like build a shed.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm going on Google right now. How much

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<v Speaker 2>is a goat? All right? All right? The price of

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<v Speaker 2>a goat can vary from seventy five dollars bro you

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<v Speaker 2>can get bro. You can get a goat for four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I can buy so many goats, all right, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight hundred all right? I'm I'm hey, hold on, is he?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I know you're joking. Around. But I'm being dead

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<v Speaker 2>serious about this right now. I really am, because I

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<v Speaker 2>because you're telling me this is your life dream. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here, I'm on the computer Google and how

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<v Speaker 2>much goats are? And I want this to be a

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<v Speaker 2>thing where you realize that you actually can achieve your

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<v Speaker 2>dream by only saving you know, all right? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>with me on this?

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<v Speaker 1>I am with you on it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? All right? So all right, so you need eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks to get two goats? All right? How much

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<v Speaker 2>is a cow? Cow is a little more expensive. Cow

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<v Speaker 2>is nine hundred dollars. So you need to save seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars to achieve your life's goal. That's crazy, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>You could do that. See you can see this is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. Everyone thinks that their goals are are out

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<v Speaker 2>of reach. But you know what takes the time to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, google, google them?

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<v Speaker 1>So I just need to google more.

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<v Speaker 2>Well is he you said your name was?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh? Wait, can you give me a name? I

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<v Speaker 1>know you give everyone names because you forget them and

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<v Speaker 1>then you remembered mine, and I'm kind of let down

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<v Speaker 1>by that, So I would like you to give me

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<v Speaker 1>a name of.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not going to give you a name. You

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<v Speaker 2>I remembered your name. Dang.

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<v Speaker 1>The one time.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, uh, well, is there anything you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to actually talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I just I never thought you'd actually answer, so

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<v Speaker 1>I never like prepared anything to talk about. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is just like my goal.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a goal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been completed now, so thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all right, seventeen hundred bucks between you and your goal.

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<v Speaker 2>All you got it? You can you can save that

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<v Speaker 2>with your you know, uh hr nippie money. You can

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<v Speaker 2>get there, definitely, all right? Send me send me a

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<v Speaker 2>picture of the goat, or don't. I don't have enough spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have I don't have a lot of space

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<v Speaker 2>on my phone anymore. I I've been saving uh uh

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<v Speaker 2>too many Uh I've been I've been downloading a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of games. So I don't have a space on my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>So actually, don't send me a picture of the goat?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything else?

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<v Speaker 3>Who?

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<v Speaker 2>I say to the people of the computer before we.

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<v Speaker 1>Go, go buy more goats?

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<v Speaker 2>Take care Doug by bye, Hello folks, it's Lyle here.

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<v Speaker 2>But now you're saying, oh, okay, you see, I thought

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